Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler - Minisode: Chelsea + Catherine Solve the Mysteries of the Universe

Episode Date: March 13, 2026

Chelsea and Catherine definitively solve the quandaries of quantum physics, the multiverse, manifestation and reincarnation.  Then: A followup from a daughter who passed judgement too early.  * Check out That Glasgow Witch here * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at [e-mail] * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Go to ChelseaHandler.com for tickets. Okay. Hi. Hi, Catherine. Hi, Chelsea. Welcome to our mini-sode, you guys. Today we are discussing, I have tasked Catherine with teaching me what quantum physics is. Yes.

Because I need to have a better understanding. And I got a text from you last night that said, hey, can we talk about quantum physics? So I've just, you know, discovered all the mysteries of the universe by tomorrow morning. So here we are. We're ready. Thank you. I do have to say my favorite thing is that last year you learned that the sun and the moon are not the same. That was not last year.

That was at least five years ago. That was my two books ago. So that was like, I mean, that was a little while ago. But now that you know that, like the natural next step is quantum physics, right? Yeah, exactly. So basically physics as we know it is a large scale thing, right? If I push you, you're going to go over there. That's sort of a large scale thing.

But when you get to the subatomic level, the stuff that we're all made up of and the quantum level, the energy, the electrons, like the things between the air in between the air within you mean in between our bodies, like what makes up our bodies? Yes. In between our electrons, our neutrons at the quantum level, physics behaves entirely differently. So one of the main things that's important about quantum physics to understand is this idea of what's called superposition. So superposition basically just means that something has a high probability of being one of two states. And it is not for sure in that state until it's actually being observed, which is like it sounds spooky and it sounds weird and it doesn't make sense. but it also kind of doesn't make sense. So like if you relate that to a pregnancy, until you are actually positively pregnant, it's not being observed. That's actually a good way to describe it. So there is a really typical example called

Schrodinger's cat, and it's basically like a pregnancy. So Schrodinger's cat says that if you put a cat into a box and you're not looking at that cat because it's in the box, you don't know if that cat is alive or dead, right? So before you open the box, that cat has just as high of a probability of being alive as being dead. But when you open the box, basically that's what causes, there's a causal relationship of like now you know that the cat is alive or dead because if you open the box and you've observed it. So the reality is based on observation. And so while the cat is in that box, it's in a position of superposition. So it could equally be one or the other. I'm following this. Okay. Okay. Good. Good. Good. And so where that leads us is we're

kind of always in this state of being in the box, if you will, where you have an infinite possibility of going this way or that way. And say I decide to turn left at the stoplight instead of right. What that means is like there might be one version of my reality where I did go left or where I did go right. And so the theory of the multiverse kind of spawned out of all of this. And right now, that's sort of the prevailing wisdom is that the multiverse does exist like you were talking about like are we living in a simulation sort of thing but so in the multiverse that theory says like there is one version of me that did this one version of me that did that and they both exist equally so then where that brings us is one of my favorite things about like when I was researching

this the only people who are interested in quantum physics are either like nerdy dudes or like hot women who are into manifestation so um where that explains my interest exactly so where that kind of brings us is it's one of the things that helps people understand sort of like the the physical reality of like if you can manifest things because you're basically just putting yourself in a different headspace and focusing on a different outcome and a different reality and that energetically brings you to that different reality my suv is worth more than ever time to upgrade there's never been a better time at plaza auto group locations get top value for your trade and shop hundreds of new and pre-owned vehicles

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I almost think, and Brad, weigh in on this. I almost think it's a little bit opposite. I think quantum physics is the reality and the multiverse is potentially true. Brad, would you say that's correct? Is it entirely connected? I don't know. Quantum physics is the study of the very, very small. That's what I know.

Is the multiverse necessarily related to that? I see where you're going with the manifestation. That makes sense. I don't think it's related. You don't feel like it's related? No. Well, my understanding, which isn't one, is that the multiverse is just something that like somebody, like, you know, like that's like a conjecture.

Like, oh, maybe this is happening. But quantum physics is actually scientific. Right. Exactly. And there's even quantum computers that can do quantum computing. Like a simulation is a conjecture. It's not proven that we're in a simulation. That's just people going, what's going on here?

like a matrix. Yes. Right. A matrix is like a multiverse. Mm hmm. Correct. Yeah. Is that correct, Brad? Yes, sort of. That's kind of like a like a superimposed reality, though. Right. We're talking like the matrix matrix. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's kind of a different I think a simulation would be different than a multiverse. Right. Because what if we're like what because what's the idea that supports the notion that we're living our past, present and future at the same time okay i've got this one i've got this one okay so this is like when you have a radio you have all of the stations on the radio you're getting frequencies from all over the place right they all exist but when you tune into just one radio frequency that becomes your reality so

that's the one that you're tuned into that's the one that you're hearing all the other ones still exist but to you the only one that's real is the one that you are tuned into okay see what i did that was good. So glad that I studied it as much as I did. That's good. Thank you. Yes. But Neil deGrasse Tyson says that like nobody really understands quantum physics. So it's like, why don't we have him on? I think we actually should. Let's book him because we need to talk to him. Okay, great. Yeah. I had him on my Netflix show once and it wasn't a long enough conversation. So this would be a better format for us. This is perfect. Because also there's an idea that, you know, yeah, all these things are existing at the same time. It just, it's like

what you just described right so if i were to tune into my past maybe i could jump back there or future yes you know what i saw tiktok yesterday there is this i'm sort of on like the witchy side of tiktok and there is this witch who what like witches like you know like pagans and witches i didn't know this about you this goes along with those hard-boiled eggs that you travel with oh By the way, one of my ex-boyfriends from Barcelona sent me a picture of him on a plane with a little container of four, six hard-boiled eggs and goes, I know you hate me now. I didn't respond and I'm going to block him. He and I will do, he and I will get along famously. But so this Glasgow witch, I really loved what she said.

And I'll post a link to this. Why do you like witches and pagans? You know what? I think there, I don't understand a lot about it, but to me, a lot of that stuff makes sense. Like talking to your ancestors, getting wisdom from our elders, from especially women who came before a lot of that really makes sense to me. And also just, are we actively doing that without knowing it? Or you're saying you you're not doing it with intention. You're doing it, you know? Right. Like, I feel like I have a pretty lively rapport with my ancestors, with people who've

gone before me I think you do too with your mom and with others who've gone before you and I think that all to me goes into the same basket but one thing she was talking about that I really resonated with was you know we talk about like reparenting or you know talking to yourself in different and she was like let's talk about time travel basically going back to an earlier version of yourself and like giving her the whispers that you wish you knew and communicating with her like the comfort that you wish she had at the time or the wisdom that you wish. Who are we talking about yourself? Like you're going back and visiting yourself at different points. Right. And to me, that made so much more sense than like reparenting or shadow self or any of that stuff. Like to me,

that just clicked. And she said, once you start to hear, you know, practice hearing the whispers of yourself to your younger self, you can start to hear the you that will come sending whispers back to your current self. And I just wait, wait, wait, say that one more time. Yeah. She said, Once you get better at hearing the voice of yourself, the way you talk to yourself in the past, you'll be able to better understand your future self, giving you the whispers from, because this is a little bit what Laura Day said, where like all time exists at the same time. We experience it as a line, as a linear situation, but it actually all exists.

We just happen to be at one point. It's a little bit like tuning into that one frequency. The frequency we're tuned into is now. But like the future already exists. The past obviously already exists. And so kind of what she was talking about is tuning into different places in your timeline and being able to communicate with yourself at different times. And that really, really resonated with me. yeah there was a conversation i heard uh bill maher having with i guess his i think it was who was on his show was a paul krugman i don't want to misspeak but i i do do it all the time

so i guess it's not that big of a problem and he was talking about common knowledge what this is not directly related to what we're talking about but it's another interesting conversation about common knowledge it's like you see an event happen say 9-11 i know without talking to you that you know what happened on 9-11 because it's become common knowledge. I know that, you know, and I know that everyone else knows the same information that I do that 9-11 occurred and that once something becomes common knowledge, it's like, then once everything, it's like how things get exposed, you know, like, and it was related to politics and it's like, oh, like January 6th, like once that happened, everyone knew

what happened and you can change the narrative of what happened. But like, we all saw what happened that day. There's no denying what happened. So it was very interesting the way he was talking. I wish I wasn't so stoned so I could better recollect it. But, you know, it was nighttime. I was also making my very first meal before I moved out of my friend's house, Kat's house. You cooked?

We made chicken piccata together. How lovely. It wasn't very good. I have to be honest. It was not good. But now I know the next time what to make, how to make it better. The chicken was overcooked. Yeah.

There was a lot of lemon. Yeah. The rinds too. So. That's supposed to have that. But we did make it together. I had a cocktail and I had an edible. And it was fun.

It was cute. Yeah. And Kat was my mentor. I love that. She was really proud of me. Listening to the wisdom of other women and recipes are something that we passed down. Yeah, cooking was fun. And I can't believe I'm saying this out loud, but it was fun.

We had a fun time cooking. Good. I'm so happy for you. Yeah, now I get to move into another rental. Well, I mean, rental feels better than living in construction. I mean, any day of the week, right? Shout out to the person that's renting me their house that never rents their house. Perfect.

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I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed, and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. They're stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality,

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Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. well I have a follow-up Chelsea from one of our listeners this gal called in she didn't have a name she was just calling an under disappointed daughter but she was calling in about her mom who had gone through menopause and was basically like only interested in men and kind of wild and out and like partying a lot sort of thing so this is a little bit of a a bummer update but she says great hi Catherine I'd love to say it went well when I talked to my mom but it did not My mom was pretty hurt by my entry, to say the least. She felt blindsided, misrepresented, and confused by what I wrote.

We spent over a month not really speaking before things blew over. However, after purchasing both Brooke Shields and Mel Robbins' books, hearing Chelsea and Brooke's perspective, and also taking a closer look at myself, I realized it was best to dig deeper into why I wrote in and apologized to my mom. I found the following excerpt from Mel's book to be particularly helpful. If you're not in control of the situation, don't make yourself sick about it. Trying to control others doesn't work. Give yourself the peace of trusting that life is the best teacher and people will learn as they go. That's how it's designed. Let them learn from life and be who they are.

I spent a great deal of my life begging my mom to let me be who I am. And here I am today, not allowing her the same freedom. I can't thank Chelsea and Brooke enough for their advice as it gave me insight and perspective I hadn't considered before. My mom is only human. this is her first time living too and i did her an injustice by judging her so harshly if i want peace and contentment in my own life then i need to let others be truthfully my mom is one of the strongest most intelligent and independent women i know she raised a daughter who's brave enough to speak her mind and strong enough to face the consequences for that i'm

thankful thank you all again disappointed daughter so i guess not a bummer no that's not a great did we give her what did i advise her to confront her mother yeah yeah that's probably bad advice But you also said like read Mel's, yeah, you said to read Mel's book and then Brooke Shields also was like, you know, this is kind of something that happened. So yeah, no, I thought that was really good. She learned a lot, kind of like maybe not through the initial advice, but through the But she says in the letter that this is my mom's first life too. We don't know that it is your mom's first life because now we have to talk, now there's

past lives. Like we don't know if that's real or that's not real. So which one is it? There's part of the multiverse where she's in. Are there past lives or are we in a multiverse? No. Or yeah. Maybe all of the above.

Or am I on the spectrum? I mean, I'm on some spectrum, that's for sure. Okay, guys, I am officially on my high and mighty tour. March 13th, Cleveland, Ohio. March 14th, Columbus, Ohio. March 15th, Cincinnati, Ohio. And then March 20th is Denver, Colorado. March 27th, Portland, Maine.

March 28th, Providence, Rhode Island. March 29th, Springfield, Massachusetts. April 10th is Chicago. I'll be at the Chicago Theater. April 11th, Indianapolis, Indiana April 12th, Louisville, Kentucky April 16th is Albuquerque, New Mexico April 17th is Mesa, Arizona

April 23rd is Kansas City, Missouri April 24th is St. Louis, Missouri April 25th is Minneapolis, Minnesota April 30th, Nashville, Tennessee May 1st is Charlotte, North Carolina May 2nd is Durham, North Carolina May 6th, I'm doing Netflix is a Joke Festival I will be in Los Angeles.

That is a new announcement, along with Atlantic City. May 15th, Saratoga, California. May 16th, Monterey, California. May 17th, Modesto, California. And then June 4th, Port Chester, New York. June 5th is Boston, Mass. And June 12th is Portland, Oregon. And then Seattle is June 13th.

So suck on that, everybody. Go to ChelseaHandler.com for tickets. if you want advice from chelsea write into dear chelsea podcast at gmail.com dear chelsea is a production of iheart media follow chelsea on all socials at chelsea handler and find katherine on tiktok at flash cadabra dear chelsea is edited and engineered by brandon dickert executive producer katherine law find full video episodes and minisodes now on netflix I survived nine months in captivity and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are the Survivor Files every week

I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable abducted stalked controlled and nearly silenced these are stories about what it takes to make it out alive listen to the Survivor files with elizabeth smart on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts if your bookshelf and your for you page are equally important to your personality welcome home pro society is a weekly podcast that's part book club part group chat for anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island deserve the same level of discourse each week we're connecting the dots between books the internet and pop culture with your favorite writers book talk creators, and plenty of overthought

opinions. Yeah, I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. Listen to Pro Society on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Did you hear the new episode of the Hey Jonas podcast? We are at D23, so we'll see who stops by. The cast of Frozen stopped by.

Kristen Bell, Josh Gad, and Idina Menzel. I auditioned for Frozen. What? For Kristoff. They said, okay, what are you going to be singing today? I said, I don't know. That must have been why you didn't get in. Well, you probably won. Plus, John Stamos, Hayden Christensen from Star Wars, and more. And I guess I can share that, uh...

No way. Listen to the latest episode of Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus, or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B.

I'm Julie Pinheiro, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility. Listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast.

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