Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler - Minisode: Couples Counseling with Jenny Mollen + Jason Biggs
Episode Date: May 31, 2024In the first of our new series of minisodes, Chelsea is joined by Jenny Mollen and Jason Biggs to tackle the marital conundrums of pillow placement, tolerable temperatures, and night sex. * Need ...some advice from Chelsea? Email us at DearChelseaPodcast@gmail.com * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees. This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all. Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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You're listening to a new segment of Dear Chelsea called Couples Counseling with Chelsea,
where we do couples counseling on all sorts of variations of friends, lovers, families.
I'm here with my friends Jenny Mullen and Jason Biggs,
and we are going to do some couples counseling.
Welcome to my office.
Welcome to Chelsea's Couples Counseling, or Where's the Beef?
Where's Your Beef with Chelsea? Where's Chelsea's Beef with You?
I don't know what we're calling the segment yet, but these are mini episodes,
and I'm very delighted to sit with two of my very old friends.
Jason Biggs and his wife, Jenny, which name are we using these days?
Mullen, Biggs, Handler.
Okay, Jenny and Jason, if you're familiar with them online, Jenny is one hot mess.
And she loves, loves to get into it with her husband, who also really loves to get into it with his wife.
I mean, you guys are very, I would call you codependent fighters.
A real couples therapist would say that too.
Yep.
That you're codependent?
Yep.
Very.
And does that have anything to do with your disagreements?
Yes.
Okay.
Let's start with one.
This is one that I actually, as I was reading this, I thought, wow, this sounds a lot like
me.
So maybe I should be lovemaking to Jason every night.
Jason, you sleep with a lot of pillows, right?
And you use pillows between your legs like a pregnant woman?
I do, yes.
And how many pillows does that leave you with, Jenny?
A single pillow.
Okay.
That's false.
And how many pillows are in the bed total?
well 26 i can actually count this up for real and give you a real answer here so i have three
pillows that are propped up that my legs go on like that because are you do you have a back issue
or a hip lower back so this kind of gets me in a nice position you know like in the movies the
80s when somebody's like in a full body cast and they're hanging in a hospital i'll tell you what
if i could if i could mount a like a wire from the ceiling like a gurney a gurney type situation
to put my strap my feet into to alleviate the lower back issue i would and arms need to be up
too though here's the other yes exactly so i have those taking care of my legs my lower back i also
have shoulder issues so so on either side of my arms i have both arms do you have shoulder issues
from eating so much pussy it's it that's my doctor says that's one reason okay of many okay also
sucking a lot of dick okay oh so that how's that how does that work on your shoulders because i'll
show you later i'll show you later okay i didn't bring my dick today but i have it so two two arm
pillows and then i've got two pillows behind like an airplane pillow like no no to cradle you no
but i've i've i've used an airplane pillow in bed before sometimes but ultimately i abandoned that
idea i just go with two but like i have one of the pillows is like kind of a soft down his penis
like one of those airplane props my dick like a cock ring cock ring and then the second pillow
is a Tempur-Pedic pillow.
It's a whole situation.
Wow, this sounds a lot like my situation.
It's, yeah, and it's the only way.
How would you have sex with him?
Well, how do you have sex with him?
You don't.
No, I don't.
That's the thing.
It's like a chastity wall.
So how do you, if you are in the mood,
are you in the mood?
Well, I don't have sex with him at night.
Oh.
There's no way in.
It's a fortress.
Well, but hold on.
Our love is a battlefield.
You're going to point fingers at the pillows
for the reason that we're not having night sex.
It's also the fact.
night sex
it's also the fact
it's like night sweats
and night sex
it's the fact that
you fall asleep
at 7pm
like after the kids
or 8pm
when the kids go down
first of all
I also love that bedtime
for myself
by the way
me too
I'm not mad at this
just don't put
don't make false accusations
as to why we're not
having night sex
we are both in agreement
that after 8 o'clock
how could any person
who wanted to have sex with you
have sex with you
when you're in that contraption
well you could
if you
Jenny
in his defense
if you really wanted
to get after that body
you would make your way through those pillows
if you guys had just started dating
and he was pulling that kind of chicanery
you would figure out a way around it
you would get in there and be like
hey I want to wake you up with another blowjob
love of my life
soulmate
interesting fact, Jenny puts me to sleep with her blowjobs
that's how I lull him to sleep
that's nice, before a climax
before you even climax
no, just everything falls asleep
she just puts her lips around my penis
I fall asleep first, then my penis falls asleep
And then, I don't know, I wake up and Jenny's there somewhere underneath the pillow.
Sleeping.
Sleeping.
No, it's a conversation that can happen.
I'm wearing the neck pillow.
You're wearing the neck pillow.
How does this work on a plane, Jason, when you need all of these accoutrements?
Yeah, it's a whole situation.
What do you do on a plane?
Do you travel with a pillow?
I will often do the neck pillow, even if I'm flying flat, neck pillow helps.
But, you know, I generally ask for an extra pillow or I'm using a jacket.
I mean, it's a thing.
When did this start?
Like, what age when you started?
It was definitely...
I feel like when I introduced the pregnancy pillow,
it changed Jason's life.
Oh, that was amazing.
I mean, who wouldn't want one of those?
I want one of those.
The pregnancy pillow was incredible
because it's interesting.
So I start my night with arms propped up,
legs propped up.
Like a paralyzed person
or someone who's recovering from a massive injury.
A massive...
A whole body cast.
Yes, a motorcycle accident.
Yes.
In an 80s movie.
In an 80s movie.
In an 80s comedy.
in an 80s comedy
over my head
everything is covered
do you have a straight jacket
at the house
that would be fun
only my eyes are showing
and a hole for my penis
so she can put me to bed
but eventually
at some point in the night
I want to sleep on my side
it's very strange
I understand this
I was just about to ask you
what happened
so at some point in the night
and by the way
this is when I'm
in that position
I'm above
there's nothing covering me
so I have the air
on as low as I can get it
because she wants it on
100 degrees and I want it on 50 degrees and so we try to compromise but generally that involves me
being very hot at night and having to sleep above the covers at a above ground it's an above ground
pool and Jenny's swimming in the deep end of a nice in-ground beauty at a certain point I do get
a little chilly finally when I can she falls asleep I'll turn the air down I relax whatever
my body cools down I will need to go under the covers but here's the move I go on my side and
one leg goes under the covers this leg comes above the covers so the covers are coming between my
legs with the pillows the aforementioned pillows that were for my legs here and then i'm on my
side here one of my arm pillows comes over because if i sleep like this my shoulder is like all
right so i'm like this it's a good thing you're taping this episode it's just amazing that you're
not jewish you know what i mean it is amazing because okay because so when i'm skiing i always
have back pain when i ski so when i'm skiing i sleep with my legs under up on a pillow because
i always want my knee to like de-swell throughout from the night and then when i turn over it's the
same thing and what i really i put the pillows in between my legs and i turn over and i have one leg
up but what i realized was when you're on your side like that that's not helpful for your back
that can irritate your back even more so i stopped doing that now i only have pillows only when i'm
on my back when i turn over it's flat yeah and but you're so your knees are hitting well no i put one
knee like i do like a little like this like that like this yeah yeah yeah yeah it's sexy yeah
especially it's a hot position no it's a sexy position i think it could be a hot position for
you as well yeah i mean maybe yeah it's not going to change our sex life but it could be fun to just
do it you don't know i mean if you guys what's curious to me is if you guys aren't having sex
at night when are you having sex and here's the thing sex for us generally needs to be a
conversation and a plan it's generally not spontaneous occasionally it is what about when
the kids go to school and it usually takes a few days of talking about it for it to happen by the
way it's not like it's not like hey babe should we um you know what are you doing in an hour are
you free it's like it's like whoa whoa whoa it is not like we need to do it on plan for it on
friday it's more like come out of the shower with just an erection yeah i'll be like baby you know
what do you think she's like no no no and then that so that's so that's tuesday she's like i
can't i'm not you're just gonna whip this out i'm just not i have to go to a thing i have in two
hours i'm like so two hours no it's just i can't i'm not in the okay and then no but don't act like
you always want to have sex no but then hold on baby i'm not done and then that's tuesday
wednesday she's like remember yesterday when you uh well i've got you know do you want to
jason's like i need to poop i sorry i have to take a shit what an aphrodisiac yeah exactly
so then i go shit and then you know and then that day's done well the worst is when like
we'll have sex
and then he's like
I need to poop
and I'm like
you were holding poop
in the whole time
we were having sex
that was really disgusting to me
well maybe if you didn't
stick your thumb up my asshole
while we were having sex
yeah you know that
you know that makes
somebody go to the bathroom
I don't know if anyone here
has done anal
but if you have
you understand that
you get diarrhea
for about three days afterward
I heard that from
a very close friend
really?
wait I never get diarrhea
after anal
I mean
I never have
yeah it's better than a
you haven't?
it's better than a
oh maybe you're doing it
in a different way
I have to talk to my friend
ask your friend p.s who are you having anal sex with i mean when i've had anal sex okay so there's
no hand holding in bed there's nothing like that you guys are both going to your separate camps
essentially every night when you go to bed right and do you ever go to bed angry yes yeah yeah
more than you go to but like what's the ratio of like when you're having an issue do you normally
resolve it or do you go to bed angry like which which one is more prominent we will go to bed
sometimes like exhausted by each other but do you ever sleep in separate rooms no no well i mean if
i fall asleep in sid's bed or something like that but i don't think we're ever like i'm going to
another room our 10 year old that she sleeps with that she sleeps with listen i had a friend
i have a friend she'll go she'll remain nameless who slept with her daughter in and her husband
in their bed they had their daughter until she was 16 years old and they're divorced
so that doesn't work at all they did not have sex for 12 years a couple that was staying together
that was married yes 12 but again i this hold on i just go back to the sex part of this because
nighttime i like i hear that and i don't go well their sex life is ruined because maybe it's because
we don't have nine to fives it's different but like well like it'll be like we have sex more
often like it's daylight where like in the in the afternoon in the afternoon um yeah you know
she's home i'm home yeah the nanny took the kids somewhere and it's like hey you know and it
finally aligns yes i don't have to shit and she's not doing something and then we'll like do it we're
just like worked over yeah and by the time yeah i understand because when you know i'm always in
the beginning of relationships now like so it's always sex because i don't see them very often
so when I see them
it's non-stop sex
and it's night time
because you probably
can't keep things that way
you know what I mean
I don't want it to get
to a point where I'm like
not tonight I'm too tired
I want it to be like
it to be a sex-a-thon
and then you leave
and I don't see you
for two weeks
to two months
you know whatever
but what about when
you've been in relationships
like do you guys ever like
does the sex ever migrate
towards the day
absolutely
day, night, sex
morning, all time
they're there to fuck me
like that's what we're doing
the priority is sex
For us, it's a bonus at this point.
Yeah, well, you have a family now.
We have too many balls in the air.
It's just like, yeah.
Okay, well.
Too many balls in the air, not enough balls in her mouth.
Okay, well, thank you for sharing your intimacy with us and our listeners.
You're welcome.
I hope that turned everybody on.
Yes.
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