Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler - Muting JLo with Nikki Glaser

Episode Date: June 2, 2022

Nikki Glaser joins Chelsea to talk about moving back in with her parents during the pandemic, disordered eating, and deciding to live without any secrets.  Then: A renter is forced from her belov...ed home.  A city girl wants to take her long-distance love affair to the next level.  And a pet-sitting sister-in-law struggles to set boundaries with her overdramatic family. Do you have some advice you'd like fromChelsea? Send your question to DearChelseaProject@gmail.com * Executive Producer Nick Stumpf Produced by Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brandon Dickert * * * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. There's no shortcut for saving time, but saving money is simple. Just combine your car and home insurance with Bel Air Direct and save. Get a quote at BelAirDirect.com. I survived nine months in captivity, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are the Survivor Files. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable, abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. These are stories about what it takes to make it out alive.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus, or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinheiro, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility. Listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We'll see you next time.
Starting point is 00:01:55 bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. Pro Society is a weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse. Each week, we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and pop culture with your favorite writers, book talk creators, and plenty of overthought opinions. Yeah, I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. Listen to Pro Society on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Good afternoon, Catherine, Karen. I almost called you Karen.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Oh, my God. You know, my old assistant's name is Karen, and she is really dealing with the wrath of being named Karen. She's like, I hate being called Karen. We actually got an email from someone who said that she's dealing with so much of, like, losing her love for her name that she's having suicidal ideation. Like, it's really impacting her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Maybe we should lay off the Karen and move on to another name then. Or just stop. acting like that. Exactly. So how's everything going? What's going on in your world? Wow. So I and my husband actually put our first offer in on a house. Oh, congratulations. That's exciting. Yeah. We're shopping and it's all very new and sort of confusing. Oh, that's exciting. Yeah. That's fun. Super stoked. We found a cute place in Altadena, which feels very far away, but thankfully it's not. That's where I sell my breast milk
Starting point is 00:03:25 in Altadena. Excellent. Yeah, vaccinated and horny breast milk. You can find it there. That's exciting, Karen. Congratulations. Well, thank you. I hope you get the house.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Thank you. But you're still doing renovations on the house you got last year, right? Oh, yes, and they came in with what began as one estimate has ballooned into a completely different number. So my business managers
Starting point is 00:03:46 sent me an email last week that sounded like I was four years old. They're like, Chelsea! in all caps. How can you possibly think this is an acceptable budget? I was just like, fuck off. I'm like, God, they're just such alarmists. You know, everything is so meanwhile, you know, you can never trust anything with budgets and contractors. I don't know what I'm doing. I mean, I've lost all like, I used to be so excited about projects. Now I'm just like, whatever. Joe's renovating his house. I'm renovating my house. So we've been in a rental
Starting point is 00:04:20 for almost a year together, which is nice. It's like a little nice landing spot, but it's in Beverly Hills. And I told you about all the plastic surgery faces I see walking around that I don't like that. That looks like my future and I'm not down with, you know what I mean? Well, you still look like yourself, thankfully.
Starting point is 00:04:37 You don't look like plastic surgery. Well, thank you because I haven't had plastic surgery. So I hope I fucking don't look like that. They all start to look alike when you get too much. I know, because as soon as you start aging, you're like, oh, what would this look like if you pull your fucking you know cheek back like oh I like this but yeah I don't want to have to get a facelift but who knows I probably will get one I don't know Joe won't be down with that
Starting point is 00:05:00 but you know he doesn't really have any say in the matter anyway that's right I have shows coming up this weekend I am in Pittsburgh on June 2nd June 3rd I am in DC I have two shows in DC there are tickets available for the second show and then i am in philadelphia on june 4th and then i'm back in huntington long island for my third show there on saturday night or is that a sunday night i don't know it's this weekend though pittsburgh philly dc and huntington amazing and my boyfriend is gonna be with me yeah because he's directing my special so he's gonna be there and i'm gonna drag I'm on stage. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I'm also going to pull up. My horoscope? Yes. What sign are you, Catherine? I'm a Pisces. I'm a Pisces. We're both Pisces. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I didn't know that. When's your birthday? March 15th. Oh, my God. That's my sister Simone's birthday. What? The eyes of March? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Pisces are the most, that birthday is probably the most, my sister's the most diplomatic, easy person to get along with. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah, she's pretty much my coolest friend is Simone. Aw, I love that. She's the one you talk about retiring to Vermont with, right? And becoming lesbians.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Right, right. She's the sister that I'm thinking romantically about, futuristically. Well, not really because I have Joe now, so I can't even, yeah. I don't think we're going to thruple up, although I think both my sisters would be open to it if I could be quite frank, which I believe I can be.
Starting point is 00:06:31 They can live in the mother-in-law suite in the back somewhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah, something like that. But I told her to pack up her Birkenstocks because we're heading to Maine where I'm going to buy a farm and who knows what's going to happen from there on out. You're going to get really into gardening. I know. I'm excited about our guest today. Me too. Because she's sweet and she's a comedian. She hosts that HBO show which is called FBoy Island, right? HBO Max. And she is the star of her own reality show which is now on E! which
Starting point is 00:07:01 is called Welcome Home Nikki Glaser. We have Nikki Glaser on the show today. Let's talk to her. Hi, Nikki. Hello. Hello. Hi. Hi, COVID. I don't have COVID. I just took a test. I thought I had it and I sometimes you just want COVID to just like change your life. I was just coming to LA for a bunch of press and I think this was the only thing I was looking forward to, to be honest with you. And I'm so glad it could be done remotely, but I think I just was like, yes, I have COVID. I got to go home, but I know, I know what you mean. So do you think you had it? I tested positive back in August for like the Delta kind. So I definitely am capable of getting it, but I was in, so my co-host on my podcast and my guy who opens for me on the road,
Starting point is 00:07:47 he's positive right now. And he caught it from Natasha, but he's been positive for months. Natasha is a cesspool too. Shout out to Natasha. I just read her book that she has coming out. It's called The World Deserves My Children. It is the fucking funniest parenting book I've ever read. So anyone listening, please go to Natasha Leggero's. Oh my God, I didn't know she wrote a book. Oh yeah, it's so good. And it's so funny.
Starting point is 00:08:14 And Moshe, her husband, is so useless. So for anyone who's a parent, pre-order this book. And even if you're not a parent and you want to instill and like cement the idea that you've made the right decision, this book will also cement that for you. That's good. Yeah. Natasha, while she was possibly transmitting COVID to me in this little green room backstage, convinced me to freeze my eggs. I was so adamant that I don't need to do that. I just know what I want. And after talking to her for like four minutes, she infected me with probably having a baby at some point.
Starting point is 00:08:49 I was like, don't do this to me. I don't want to have to do this whole thing. But are you going to go freeze? Are you interested in having children, Nikki? No, no, Chelsea, I'm not. I feel really good about not doing it, but I'm just fearing that I will at some point. How old are you? I'm about to be 38 in a month, so it's the time to freeze them. It's probably a little too late. Yeah, I think she was 38 when she froze hers.
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Starting point is 00:10:30 welcome home. This is Prose Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island to deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having.
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Starting point is 00:11:49 solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Hoda Kotb, host of the podcast Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb. If you know me, you know I'm always searching for inspiration and useful tools to maximize joy. So this podcast lets us uncover
Starting point is 00:12:41 those things together through meaningful conversations with fascinating people. Like when my friend Henry Winkler offered advice to aspiring actors and really anybody hoping to stand out. You're not hired just to fill time and space. You're hired to fill the space with you. You have something in your guts, you go with it. And Shawn Johnson recalled the moment she realized her now-husband, Andrew, was the one. He was just so unapologetically himself and knew nothing of Hollywood. He hadn't been on a plane before without his family. It was so pure.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm so excited to talk to you today at all, really, because your most recent book meant a lot to me and it makes me excited to confront things that I'm like kind of, you know, avoiding. And so I actually did a lot during COVID, but I'm still running from something. You did a lot of therapy during COVID? I mean, I've always done a lot of therapy, but during COVID, it got bad. I got constant suicidal thoughts. I mean, I was living with my parents. I was in between apartments
Starting point is 00:13:56 in New York. I was upgrading my life. I got rid of all my furniture, got an apartment that is three times as much as I ever even considered paying for rent. I was like, it had an elevator opening onto it. I was like, I deserve this. I'm having a good year. And my lease started March 1st, 2020. And I was in LA until the 15th. And then I just never went back. I just went to my parents' house to just wait it out. And then I stayed there, paid for this apartment for fucking 11 months until I found a sub letter on the last month. And then I just stayed in St. Louis. I moved out of my parents' house, but I knew that when things shut down, I was not going to be okay on my own. I lived alone, but I didn't really, I just would always go home after doing
Starting point is 00:14:38 sets all night long and being out all day doing podcasts and running around. And I would just go to sleep. I didn't like, I never sat alone with myself. I couldn't like be alone with a book. It was just only going home to sleep. And so the idea of living alone and not having anywhere to go, I was so scared. So I just went to my parents. And then, well, I wasn't good after a little bit. I think it just, I was just so depressed during, I mean, who wasn't? And I just was, I've always struggled with like suicidal ideations, but they just, there
Starting point is 00:15:07 was nowhere, there was nothing to make them stop during that time. And so things were going well. Like I was still like co-hosting Jimmy Kimmel and doing Zoom appearances. is people still remembered me. It wasn't like I was, I think initially I thought I was scared of being forgotten or something, but it just didn't matter. That's the other thing is like my parents being like, but you're killing it. Things are great. Why do you want to die? And I was just like, I just, I just do. And so I think that forced me to, to get help. I got in recovery for my eating disorder, which became loud and clear during COVID because there was nothing else
Starting point is 00:15:41 that one I had been bearing forever. And so that was, I think what got me to a place I am now where I am brutally honest, even though I was before, you know, like as a comedian, you're just like, I just say everything and I share everything, but I wasn't really being honest. And now I think looking at how terrible my food situation was and my relationship with it, it like really, it forced me to like get help. And that was the one that was always like, I quit drinking. I quit smoking weed i would quit everything else but that was like i don't want to give up binging and starving and all that and then i finally had to give that up and that's where it gets all the all the feelings come in and then there's no stand-up that's another drug like just going
Starting point is 00:16:23 on stage and getting just these little like dopamine hits doing podcasts do it like i just filled my life with podcasts that's why i started doing it fucking four times a day i was just like they're, I can't just do nothing. What do people do? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, I feel like you're not alone. A lot of comedians are out there projecting onto the world, their honesty when they are hiding things underneath that, like that, you know, I can relate to that for sure. Personally, the thing is everyone has their shit. It's not like you're the only one struggling with something, you know? So it feels very lonely when you're experiencing an addiction, but it's so common yeah I think I have to talk about like the reality of what my eating disorder looked like
Starting point is 00:17:06 because I would say you know oh I would binge but like what does that really look what does that mean I'm also like a thinner woman so people go okay sure I'm sure you bit what is and I would say oh I wake up in the morning and there's like seven protein bar wrappers because I've starved all day and I eat throughout the night they were really like 17 like that's the kind of honesty I'm talking about where it's like you you say something shocking and honest but what's the reality is it was thousands and thousands of calories that I was putting in. And then I'm the same way of like, I can kind of cold turkey something and put these like really hard limits on myself and stick to them. But to me, something else just pops for me, something else pops up to
Starting point is 00:17:42 fill that. So with bulimia, when I was throwing up, I just kept getting a mouth acne that just would, no matter how much I scrub my face afterwards, brush my teeth, I just couldn't. And I could, it was a vanity thing where I go, okay, well, I can't throw up anymore because this is fucking giving me gigantic volcano like volcano acne around my mouth so then I go okay I'll run six miles every day no matter what and then I fucking sprain my leg and then I'm like okay well then I'll just starve all day and call it intermittent fasting and then suddenly it's something that I can I can get away with being anorexic now and just call it intermittent fasting like this is awesome so I just kept finding ways and I think when COVID hit I just I really had
Starting point is 00:18:23 this moment where I woke up in bed and there were all these protein bar wrappers because that's all I was living on was these protein bars and just starving all day and just trying to figure out what to do all day so I didn't eat. And that's why I would fill up my life with stuff. And then I realized, oh my God, this is why I'm living with my parents. This is why I don't have a boyfriend. This is why I can't let anyone near me. It's because I have wrappers in my bed. I'm not being honest. I can't let someone go grab my purse and get something for me ever because I have so many gum wrappers in there because I was also addicted to gum chewing like I was like a cigarette smoker I was like I'm at I'm four packs a day like I've tried it that was a small day and I was just
Starting point is 00:19:02 bloated and sick from it and wasting all this money on gum like having to have Amazon ship me gum on the road just because this place wouldn't have my I mean it was just sick but it was so manageable because no one says anything and I could sneak gum and pop pieces without people even noticing that I was doing it I would clean up the wrappers in the morning but it was still like this part of my life that if someone opened that door and looked in would go what the fuck and I think my reality show now is a response to having nothing to hide like you can go in my purse now you can go in my closet it's a mess but there's not food wrappers it's not you're not gonna find throw up stains in my toilet there might be like shit stains but that's like an
Starting point is 00:19:41 appropriate thing to be in the toilet you know like I still have shameful things but it's not the things that I'm deeply ashamed of and hiding there's nothing I'm hiding anymore so I think I always wanted to do a reality show but I was like I can't because I'm not it would be too hard to hide everything and what if they found out this one thing and behind my back the producers started a storyline and and it came out because you don't really have as much control as you think you have but at this point I was like oh well they could find anything and I'm just like yeah all right well I do that that's fine yeah that's a good way to keep yourself honest yeah I just feel like if the world watches my reality show and is like I just always have this feeling my whole life
Starting point is 00:20:20 of being disgusting I can't keep a clean room I stain everything my mom always saying this is why you can't have nice things like I just am like a dirty person always feel like inside stained and now I just am like yeah I just have ADHD like that's kind of how it that's what it is and I'm not a bad person because I'm a disaster in terms of organization like I need help whereas I really felt like a bad person with all this eating stuff which I still have shame about but at least I figured it out and it's not there anymore and I feel like with the reality show it's my final like get it I didn't I didn't buy new makeup I didn't do my makeup I didn't buy new clothes I didn't straighten my house up before the cameras came I really made an effort to be like this is I really
Starting point is 00:21:04 want to be okay with myself and I wanted to kind of teach my mom stop trying to be something for people my mom's on the show and it was a lesson for her to like people are gonna see a side of you literally that you might think you look heavy or something like let's see what happens see what like I would go the housewives you love all these women and they're deplorable they're bad people but you you love them so people are gonna love you and you're not deplorable I think doing the show is a test of like just self-acceptance a little bit I like that that's a good flip for a reality show or I mean a good way to talk about a reality show because so many reality shows are not what you see like it's not it's so ridiculous you know like these scenes that they set up and
Starting point is 00:21:49 obviously you have to set up scenes but you want them to take their natural path and I typically do not watch reality television because of that it's like I'd rather watch good actors act instead of regular people act but I like what everything you're saying Nikki and I feel for you and I I hope you reach out to me, reach out to me ever. Anytime you ever need to talk to like someone seriously, always reach out to me. I mean it because I feel that from you. Honestly, we don't know each other that well, but I, I, you're just someone who's so nonjudgmental. And I mean,
Starting point is 00:22:20 that's what I find in my female comic friends. It's like, we just, we're so honest and thank God for other female comics. You can just get so honest so fast and, and we are all, all there for each other. So I appreciate that. I really am doing well, though. I talk very honestly about the things I worry about, but I feel like overall I'm feeling pretty confident and happy and living in St. Louis and like saying, OK, I'm not going to live in L.A. or New York, which was an obsession of mine because I just didn't want anyone else to get better at comedy than me because it's all about competition. like I was also out every night because you know as a comedian you're as good as as many times like it's like working out you got to do it all the time and if you're not doing it and you see someone else on a lineup you're like she's getting better than me and it's always a she because I'm a
Starting point is 00:23:11 fucking human who feels competition where and there isn't room for all of us so like I hate this idea of like don't be jealous of other women lift them up I believe in lifting other women up but it's okay to feel jealous of other women there really isn't room for all of us they kind of only have one quirky best friend in comedy movies like there's not two like you might get a you might not get a role because another woman exists like I have to embrace that sometimes I get jealous and that it's okay for people to be better than me and work harder than me and that I deserve a goddamn break yeah and I also think that there is room for everybody it's just not what you have in your mind you have this idea like yeah you there's a quirky best friend role there's one in each
Starting point is 00:23:55 movie but how many movies have a quirky best friend role several good point listen the jealousy thing is a natural human instinct that happens whatever you're doing you know it's very I've yet to meet somebody that's not jealous or doesn't have jealousy or look at someone else and be competitive and be like wait why are they getting that why am I not getting that it's a matter of how you react to that jealousy you know yeah it's a matter of how you respond to that feeling because that is a human feeling and it's totally normal and typical but anytime I don't get something and I go oh I would have liked that or something I just go look at everything you have like look at what you have how could you ever ever be like I want that like if anything I should take a step back
Starting point is 00:24:36 and say okay I'm not going to take anything any of these opportunities for however many years and just be generous and munificent you know I mean I'm not going to do that but you know what I'm saying yes well louise hey i don't know if you know i've ever heard of this woman but i found her like through youtube and looking up like how to feel better and gratitude she has this great quote about whatever your god is the universe if you're not grateful for what you have they're not going to give you any more gifts like i would never give a gift to someone who every time i gave them something they were like i don't even like it it's not even like what i wanted and it's not enough yeah and so that hearing that i was like okay my concept of god or the universe like
Starting point is 00:25:15 i need to just force myself to just be so i try to do the thing where you like close the night with like what went well today and and wake up in the morning and go what i'm grateful for my hands i'm like the just the bare minimum you know of of gratitude but it's and it's okay to like you said jealousy does creep up and i just i just mute jlo like i don't need to see jlo on my feed you know what i see a lot of jlo on my feet i wonder if that's everybody is jlo just is jlo the most preeminent person of our lifetime or what because I I have no problem gazing oh actually I watched a J-Lo movie this weekend when I was in whatever city I was in wait the documentary no not that yeah but I'm looking forward to that oh I watched Marry Me I paid like 20 dollars for
Starting point is 00:26:02 it in my hotel room because I was like okay I was in a city that I wasn't interested in perusing and so I was like what am I gonna watch and I looked at all the movies and I tried one I tried one period piece and it was a little too disney-ish for me so i had to forego that and then i watched the j-lo movie and you know it's so easy to watch her her face her ass her legs you're just like what the fuck is going on with your jeans you know like what kind of gene pool i know she doesn't drink because i've been around her she does not drink so that's one thing but she's also latino So that's a whole Latino. Well, she might be Latino, too.
Starting point is 00:26:40 She's Latina. And her fucking skin is a different world. I also know she's up to some tricks, you know, that she doesn't admit. So I know that, obviously. She's fucking 50-something and has not a wrinkle or any. You know how, like, your skin changes? Well, you're probably too young, Nikki. But, like, around 40, you start to go, like, is my skin thinning?
Starting point is 00:27:01 It's crepey. On my body? Like, I have to lubricate when I wake up, when I go to bed. now I have to lubricate Joe Coy's feet because he's always in my bed he goes don't look at my feet I go honey they're cute little Filipino footbeds what are you talking about
Starting point is 00:27:16 I go I can look at your feet any day I go what are you talking about he's like don't they're so ugly I go your feet I've had to do this with him I'm like your feet are beautiful there is nothing wrong with your feet and he's like really you think so when we first got together you guys
Starting point is 00:27:31 we'd have sex someone's tortured him about his feet in his past that was an early thing he steps on them when he's getting in the shower like an orangutan
Starting point is 00:27:41 he puts his tucks his toes under his feet I go what are you doing that's so bad for you how can you even stand and he's like oh I just fucking
Starting point is 00:27:50 hate my feet I go so you walk around with them tucked underneath you like a monkey he's trying to hide them I bet some it's so funny
Starting point is 00:27:56 that shame that we have about those like I'm guessing someone said something about his feet because that's such a weird thing to be so obsessive
Starting point is 00:28:04 about other people nuts and it's so sweet that I love the reaction where he goes wait you do you like them like that's such a sweet little boy you sometimes see your boyfriend or like you know even just your friends just if you shrunk them like the way they move or the way you go that is a four-year-old it's so sweet I'm obsessed with you and Joe Coy can I I know you've just talked about it ad nauseum but I'm obsessed thank you we need to I guess I am so come on girl like I am so happy for you It's, you know, people love to talk about Chelsea and Joe Coy, the comedians being like, it's a it's just a I mean, people are saying, I'll tell you what we're talking about. I've always been on your team and thought it was real.
Starting point is 00:28:46 But people are like, no, it's just a thing to get people to buy tickets to their show. And I'm just like, no, it's not. Do you not read humans at all? As if I would participate in that. Like, as if I would be that fucking fake. I mean they clearly don't know anything about you have never you know it's just people love to just
Starting point is 00:29:07 be cynical it's like the same people that thought that the Will Smith slap was fake I'm just like do you know how to read both the reactions afterwards from those people they're not that good of actors like it's just it makes me question people when they're like oh Chelsea and Joko are fake I'm like well then you
Starting point is 00:29:23 have a bad read on people because those are people first of all this is old Hollywood where people are set up to like for promotional purposes like that you would have to have two people agree to a fake narrative like two people joe who is not fake and me who is also like i can't lie or even pretend um you can vouch there is a decent amount of snuggling when he's here in the studio thank you yeah you guys are so in love it's kind of like we're waiting for it that period to go away like you guys are like courtney and travis oh god there's a little bit of that but it's for me i love that shit i love that unsustainable
Starting point is 00:30:00 obsession cutesy bootsy stuff i need to know and i'm sure you've covered this what was the moment it shifted and i know i've i've read extensively to try to find this answer when did it become who said it first like who addressed it first like this is romantic i did i was like what did you say we were in vegas we were in vegas i was at the barrage he came to see me perform and i was doing my first new hour of this tour vaccinated and horny so I had him put it up I just run it at the Brea Improv like eight shows and so it was my first bigger venue and I was nervous I was like fuck okay I gotta remember all this I had like eight pages of notes like I was really just getting it on its feet and he was just so sweet and so he showed up in Vegas and we had been
Starting point is 00:30:44 hanging out a lot for months right but we weren't nothing ever happened like Joe was you didn't feel anything before no like i assumed he had a crush on me but if i would just deal with that when it became unmanageable yes like you've been through that before with like your guy friends i was like if he tries to fuck me i won't be hanging out with him again you know yes you're waiting for that other shoe to drop because okay so you clocked that he had a crush on you you though you know in your quietest moments was there like were you finding yourself daydreaming about him or was it truly just this moment where it was like nothing and then everything for you yeah i mean it was a It was a build. It was a build. But I was definitely not open to him. I was not attracted to him. My girlfriends would all be like, when are you going to admit you're fucking Joe Coy? I'm like, I'm not. I'm not fucking Joe Coy. I would be the first to tell you if that were going on. And then so in Vegas, I remember he walked into the room. My sister was there. I had a group of friends there. He walked into the room and I just remember seeing him and looking at him like, wait a second. I want to fuck Joe Coy. I think I want to fuck him.
Starting point is 00:31:43 and then it became an emergency because I had to see if his penis was the right size for my Pikachu. Oh my God. And I had like, I wasn't going to move forward until I had all the information.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Had you already seen him naked? I feel like you with your Chelsea Lately parties, things get wild. Like wasn't there already some kind of- No, no. If he had ever gotten naked
Starting point is 00:31:59 at one of my parties, I would have never fucked him. But anyway, I'd love- You guys were like so close. Did you talk about like your sex life? Like were you hearing about his dating stuff?
Starting point is 00:32:07 Like was there- Never. You guys did not talk about that stuff. He wouldn't talk about any women in front of me. he Joe has like because he liked you he just yeah he always liked me but he was never gonna jeopardize our relationship he was never gonna make a move on me because he knew that I would go gross get away from me don't talk to me again so he knew that it had to be my idea which was
Starting point is 00:32:27 right and I finally just said to him I was like you have a do you have a crush on me and he was like oh god Chelsea why do you have to ruin everything was it before the show after no late night like two in the morning you see him in this light he walks in you're like horny for him and so you said it in that moment or did you just go oh fuck did you like go back to your notes and you're like I can't even like focus right now because I'm like what what is this feeling I'm feeling and then when did you finally say do you have a crush on me when was that late night like 2 30 in the morning no I was able to focus we did the show show was great we all went out gambling had a great night and then we were just getting more like snuggly like touchy-feely you know I
Starting point is 00:33:02 was like letting him know like game on and then we got back to the room in Vegas and I said do you have a crush on me and he was like well what do you mean and I was like Joe either you have a crush on me or don't like just wait were you touching when this happened like were you like hugging when he so where where's this come i need all the details well i wish i could give them to you but we have to take fucking callers nikki i mean this is an advice podcast i know i know but i'm i need advice about okay yes we'll we'll get to it what i'll come on your podcast and talk about joe and all the details i'm gonna i'm writing my new book it's called the filipino in me a love story. But I will give you all the details. Of course, I would never lie or keep them all to
Starting point is 00:33:43 myself. I would never be so selfish. But OK, so this is how to advice people call. We really need to help them. OK, are you you have your advice thinking cap on? Yeah, I'm so good at this. OK, amazing. I'm so glad. The first question is, how do you get out of something by pretending you have COVID? And we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. There's no shortcut for saving time, but saving money is simple. Just combine your car and home insurance with Bel Air Direct and save. Get a quote at BelAirDirect.com. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and held captive for nine months.
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Starting point is 00:37:56 And Shawn Johnson recalled the moment she realized her now-husband, Andrew, was the one. He was just so unapologetically himself and knew nothing of Hollywood. He hadn't been on a plane before without his family. It was so pure. Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Yeah. We're back. Thank God. Oh, my God. Thanks, God. We're back with Nikki Glazer and my wonderful co-host, Catherine. Hi. And we are going to start taking questions and callers. Indeed. Our first question comes from Haley. This all leans very F boy centric today. So we're keeping it on theme on brand. Haley says, Dear Chelsea, I've been in a new relationship for six months and it's going great.
Starting point is 00:38:52 He shows me he cares in thoughtful ways every day and really challenges me in all the ways I want to be challenged by a partner. Shortly after we started dating, he had to go to California for a month. We talked on the phone for hours every day and really got to know each other. While he was away, we would send each other what I like to call, quote, self-portraits, which I knew he was saving to his hidden photos folder. About a month ago, I asked him about the self-portraits and if I could look through them. I'm not sure what prompted me to ask. I think it was mostly out of vanity, but also I liked the idea of him having them in a private folder for himself. He quickly told me I couldn't, and I asked if I was the only girlfriend in that folder.
Starting point is 00:39:33 He immediately got defensive and tried to tell me that asking him to do anything about the contents of the folder would be an invasion of his privacy. His response took me by surprise, since I haven't made any specific requests in that regard. I haven't cared for a boyfriend this deeply before, but I'm put off by how sketchy he's acting about this folder. I don't expect him to, quote, erase his past, his words, not mine, but knowing that he had those photos of me made me feel special. Now I feel like I'm an option, even though his actions tell me I'm not. His reaction that day felt very contradictory to the man that I'm with, and I don't know what to do. Haley. I'm sorry. So they he moved to California. Did I miss something? He's back. Like, yeah, they just spent like a month apart. But that was when she was like sending him these, let's say,
Starting point is 00:40:20 nudie photos. How long have they been together? Six months. Yeah. Six months. Somebody's a better listener than the host. I'm really trying. Yeah, that's a big red flag, first of all, because those are pictures of you in there. So are you not allowed to see the pictures of you, regardless of what other photos he has like that's a big red flag well so i think he because she said his own words were erase my past he must have definitely given some indication that there were other girls in that folder and he didn't want her to see those other girls is that like x's that's what i had assumed and now upon like i've read this so many times but somehow reading it out loud I'm like maybe there are other current girls yeah absolutely the current girls or first
Starting point is 00:41:07 of all if there were ex-girlfriends it's completely reasonable and the right thing to do to go oh I'm going to delete these now that I'm in a relationship with you like that would be disrespectful to be jerking off in your spare time to your ex-girlfriends like the folder should just be of you if you're dating him and it's totally normal and fine for you to ask to see that like there's nothing wrong with that and the fact that he said no yeah that's a big red flag like i wouldn't trust this guy at all yeah you're absolutely right it means there's current stuff because if she's cool with like okay i understand you have your exes he could go okay i'll delete him right now this is a good moment to do that done but the fact that he got weird about it either
Starting point is 00:41:45 he wants to hold on to those which shouldn't be that important to him or something else is going on if this sucks i i hate this kind of moment where everything's great except this one thing i wouldn't mind a guy keeping ex photos i kind of get horned up for him i like to like see them but you like to see his exes yeah she would she was exes or your own exes his exes like i like seeing like old like the hot ladies he's had in his past it really like horns me up but it's basically what what she wants and if he's not willing to give her that that sucks yeah it's not a good sign it's a it's a it's a big red flag why don't you what's her name hayley hayley i think you should really like give him an ultimatum about seeing that when you're in person with him
Starting point is 00:42:31 so that he can either shut up or put up and if he's not willing to show those to you then like he's hiding something from you and that's the only reason that he wouldn't show them to you so you know however you feel about that i would definitely move on i feel like he's gonna pit her to be like oh you're the girlfriend that just wants to go through my phone and you're like no i just wanted to see a hot picture of myself and then it turned to this whole thing right I am only asking and this is only important to me because you're being so weird about it I don't care about anything else I trust you but this reaction is leading me to not trust you and I can't get over it until until you make this right and if you can't bye yeah if you don't trust my
Starting point is 00:43:11 reaction you should trust the fact that if there's nothing unreasonable in here I won't be upset yes Too bad there's not dates on photos, right? In that folder, would there be dates? No, there wouldn't be, though. Or would that be real cool? No, you can see it in the metadata. Oh, yeah. Well, there you go.
Starting point is 00:43:25 You should steal his phone if he doesn't give it to you and fucking look through it. And then you'll get your answers. Yes. Face ID can work wonders when someone is sleeping. I have no problem with people going through each other's phones. I think that's fine. Me neither. No, there's nothing to hide.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I think you shouldn't have anything to hide. But it's kind of like the NSA thing of like, I'm always like, who cares if they're listening at my conversation? I've got nothing to hide. And people are like, well, because they can like make up stuff to incriminate you. They can use your stuff that you're innocent with. So it's a matter of sometimes I get worried that the person might invent something of all the data they're collecting on me and get insane about it.
Starting point is 00:44:01 But yeah, I generally I've whenever I'm trying to hide my phone from someone, I've got something to hide. It's never because it's like it's just for me. It's because I don't want them to know a part about myself that I'm trying to keep from them. Yeah, I think that's a good point. I was just actually talking about guys who don't put their girlfriends on their Instagram or their wives and they do it as like, I'm just honoring like her privacy.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Like they're comedians that work the road and they go, I just like my wife just, she's a private person. It's like, no, you want to present as a man that doesn't have a wife when you're on the road, when girls look you up and they go see you at clubs. It's like this whole thing of like, I'm just being a good guy. Like I just, you know, it's like, it's such bullshit. One of my best friends has a girlfriend. He and his wife got a divorce.
Starting point is 00:44:45 He's been dating this girl for like probably two years. They live together. He has never posted a photo of her on his Instagram except to close friends, which means like not everybody. I'm just like, you're hiding her. I do understand. There's this whole storyline in the show The Ultimatum that I'm watching right now of like, yes, when you're an influencer and you post a picture, especially when you're a girl and
Starting point is 00:45:08 you rely on male followers, if you post a picture of your boyfriend, you lose followers Because men are just like, I guess I can't have her now. Like, it was ever an option for them to get you. So I understand, like, it's a branding thing. Even when I post something saying I have a boyfriend, I feel like less likes. Just like people are just like not into it. Whereas guys, when they're like, look at my hot girlfriend, everyone fucking loves. They get so much more.
Starting point is 00:45:33 I definitely get, I still get disgusting DMs when I post about Joe and me. I will still get DMs saying, I want to put my cock in your asshole. Like, I can't wait to fuck you. So it's not good. I mean, I'm having it. They'll never go away. I have quite the opposite experience because people love, people seem to love our love story.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Well, the people who believe it anyway. And, and, and, and men, it hasn't stopped men from telling me that they're going to fuck me. So I think men like to tell women like me that they're going to fuck me because they know they're never going to fuck a woman like me, you know? So they like to write that down anonymously because obviously. Okay. What's, what do we have next, Catherine?
Starting point is 00:46:10 So our next is a collar. This is Brooke. Is this a picture of Vladimir Putin? What is it? Who is that? This is actually Boris Karloff. Oh. I've been looking at Catherine's sweatshirt.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Dracula. This is actually done by a friend of mine, Jonah Nimoy. Oh, shout out to Jonah Nimoy. It actually does look like Vladimir. I guess Dracula and Vladimir Putin have a similar look on their face. So that works out perfectly. well brooke is on the phone with us today we have callers who call in so she says dear chelsea my wife and i have been together for about 10 years and married for five her sister megan is
Starting point is 00:46:51 married with two kids and one dog megan and her family have poor hygiene they appear to have no awareness of the issue and the rest of my wife's family has never brought it to their attention their dog is about 11 years old and quite frankly his physical needs are neglected He's never bathed, his fur is matted, and he seems to have an underlying skin condition. He smells, his nails are long, he has anxiety, and he barks incessantly. Despite all this, my wife and I have watched the dog numerous times in the past. When he comes to our house, we bathe him immediately. It's a chore because he's not used to it, and it seems to be quite painful for him to be touched in certain areas.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Aww, poor baby. We do our best to groom him, but it has become impossible due to the severity of the matted fur. He needs professional intervention. I watched him for five days by myself last year, and after that, I set a boundary that I would not do it again. It was hard to look at him. As someone who suffered emotional and physical neglect as a child, it is particularly triggering to see him and to feel powerless to intervene without creating family drama. My wife has asked me repeatedly to not say anything to her sister about the dog, and until recently, I've reluctantly agreed.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Last week, Megan asked my wife if I could watch the dog again. They do not want to hire someone. I stuck to my guns and said no. My wife made some excuses instead of communicating the underlying concerns, and this kind of indirect communication is the norm in her family. Instead of accepting no as an answer, Megan proceeded to ask more specific questions about the excuses my wife had made and proceeded to guilt trip me via my wife, saying things like family helps family. I got upset and I decided with my wife's approval to text her directly.
Starting point is 00:48:33 I provided a list of three reasons why I did not want to watch her dog. I told her that I wanted to speak honestly and directly, even if it would upset her. The reasons were one, the dog is not bathed. Two, its nails are very long and I just spent a lot of money refinishing my hundred year old hardwood floors, and three, he barks incessantly, which makes it difficult for me to work. Megan freaked out. She called my wife and her entire family, sobbing profusely, misstating my words. I did not say anything that was not true about the dog, nor anything that her other family members are not saying behind her back. My wife and the rest of her family are distancing themselves from me and my comments in an effort to soothe Megan. My wife thinks I went too far.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Megan's telling her family that she no longer wants to see me or my wife ever again. My in-laws feel I owe Megan an apology. I disagree and stand by my words. I wish everyone could speak directly, but it's not the way they operate. What should I do moving forward? Brooke. And she's here with us today. Hi, Brooke.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Oh, hi. It's so funny. I was listening to this email. By the way, this is Nikki Glazer. Hi, Brooke. Our special guest. Hi. And Catherine, you've spoken to, our producer.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Yeah. I was listening to this letter and you kept referring to your wife, Megan, wife, Megan. And I'm like, there is no way a straight man is calling into this podcast. This has got to be a woman. I was like, that would be like so ridiculous. Yes. Megan, although I think is actually the sister-in-law, correct? Correct.
Starting point is 00:49:58 So thank you for your time. What's the update? What's the what's going on right now with this? Same. No communication. You're being kind of ostracized. A little bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:09 So I realized when I was rereading that, that I was pretty I think I was pretty angry when I wrote it and now I think I'm just exhausted right so so that's uh that's the update for me is just I'm ready to move on this issue and I think I was I was pretty upset and now I just you know nobody's a bad person but I just want to figure out how to move forward from this event in a way that is I don't know how to repair it so yeah what's happening now I think is that no one from my wife's family has had direct communication with me with the exception of her mother who sent me a short text saying, we hope that you come to Passover, the Seder, which was Friday. She hadn't had any communication with me in the couple of weeks leading up to that.
Starting point is 00:50:53 My wife's sister had agreed to go to the Seder knowing that I may be there, but I did decline to go because I felt like it would be really tense. And if the purpose of attending would be to celebrate or, you know, be with other people, I didn't feel like that purpose would be achieved by my, my presence. So I didn't go. And that's pretty much where we're at. What a, what a bummer, such a bummer. I mean, talking to you for this short period of time, like you can tell that you're a pretty rational, regular, you're not like a hot tempered kind of person. Not generally. No, I'm pretty to the point and I try to be relatively even keeled. So I think it was really just the directness of the communication that she wasn't accustomed to.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Right. Well, you just you said yourself that they grew up in a family with indirect communication. So, of course, what happens when that happens when you're direct with somebody who has that historical framework, then they immediately are a victim and they're crying and the whole family has to come and gather around them because they've never been told the truth before. Yeah. Yes, that's exactly it. Well, it's it's almost like you look at these kind of family dynamics and they're incapable of telling the truth. It's not even like they know the truth and they're denying it. It's they cannot and they cannot take any accountability. There's zero accountability that this family can take. What I'm wondering, what was the sister's response to the dog is dirty. It barks incessantly. It has skin issues.
Starting point is 00:52:24 All of these things. Was there any like, no, it's not like what was that response? Yeah. And part of the reason I think why my correspondence to her was a little bit snarky, admittedly in parts, was I wanted her to ask herself that question of when was the last time that I gave my dog a bath? Because truthfully, I have bathed it much more often than she has. So yeah, that issue seems to be completely glossed over, right? I've been told and my wife has been told that we're not to discuss the dog anymore and that we're not really invited to be around it i guess they don't want us to see whether or not they've made any improvements paying you to watch this dog were you getting any no you're just expected to watch their barky
Starting point is 00:53:05 like kind of neglected dog it's just well to be to be fair in families you're not really paying your sister or your sister-in-law you're just like when they don't want to because you're not paying them you go okay then you don't have to like that's the thing when you're not paying family and they're like i'd rather not you just drop it you don't go why yeah but that's the way I go okay why does this woman just expect you to do this with her and she knows her dog barks incessantly it shows a lot of denial and just yeah I feel like this is a no no this is me projecting but an alcoholic family I was never asking for payment it's really just uh I would like for it to be clean before it gets here and it's been pretty egregious in the past and I think
Starting point is 00:53:49 really the last straw for me was during the pandemic we hadn't been watching it because nobody was going anywhere and I hadn't bathed it and my wife hadn't bathed it in over a year and I think he didn't get a bath right and then it just became like really essentially too far gone and you know I looked into I called a bunch of different groomers nobody would accept him if I didn't have proof of vaccination and also he's like a little bit aggressive when you try to bathe him. And I didn't really want to bring on that liability onto myself. So I just want to bow out and not make excuses moving forward. And I think I've accomplished that goal, but now I've created another problem. Well, so what's your wife's status on this right now? How does she,
Starting point is 00:54:34 where does she sit with everything? She sits where she wants everybody to get along, like so desperately that she care what needs to be said. I think the easy way would be for me to issue an apology which i think she knows is not likely to happen no i really don't think you should do that i mean i really don't because that is like reneging like you're the first person who told the truth you could make an addendum to your original conversation point of the text like you can i don't know this might be too aggressive but to send it to everybody so that everybody is copied on it like so that there's oh it made the round yeah but i mean i think not to take the responsibility on but for you to just say as a follow-up email to the entire family this is one
Starting point is 00:55:17 option I'm not saying it's the right option but I think it's good to like lay out your case of what you said and how that made you feel how it made you feel because of your circumstances and your history and your neglect in your childhood that it triggered in you what you felt like as a child when you weren't you know whatever you were referring to and you take ownership of that so it doesn't take away what you say being what you mean but you're taking responsibility for it so it's not putting it on them you're like these are all the things that really upset me because of stuff that I went through during my childhood and I can't be around it it's too upsetting it's too upsetting to see anything being neglected and quite frankly not having a bath for over a year
Starting point is 00:55:59 is neglect you can put that in any other term that you want but that's what it is so there's ways to say this in a nuanced way so that you're really showing how much you care. I know how important this family is, not only to my wife, but to me. I want us all to get along too. And me coming out and telling you how I feel, let me give you some more context about why it was such an issue. And we can move on from this in one of two ways. Like we don't have to ever discuss the dog again. You don't have to listen to anything I say and you can continue doing what you do, but just don't expect us to watch your dog. It's too painful for me, you know? And it doesn't have to be that dramatic, but it can be nuanced enough so that you're being reasonable and you're taking
Starting point is 00:56:40 accountability for your feelings. And then they can do whatever they want with that. And ended on a note saying, I would love for us to move forward as a family. I'm really sorry that my directness cut you in this way, but I had to be honest. That's a promise I made to myself a long time ago that I would not look away in the face of neglect and without pointing finger finger finger you already said it they already know it I think you made your point so that you're not going to be you know burdened with that watching that dog again but it would be better if they actually did something and actually sat because sometimes you say something and you remove like I like that you didn't go to Seder like I like that you didn't go to that dinner because they're just now they just
Starting point is 00:57:20 have to like sitting and thinking about what you actually said like there's no way she's looking at her dog not going fuck is he neglected why haven't i bathed him or why hasn't someone bathed him yeah i like the idea of maybe sending an email to the entire family because they have they've read my initial correspondence i did send another text to my wife's sister asking her to have a conversation and she didn't respond to me she responded to my wife saying i don't i don't know what a conversation would do i i don't want to speak to her again but i i kind of like involving other people because they're involved anyway yeah right the more the merrier yeah well and i think too at the end of the day there is a dog that's not getting the care that he needs like whether
Starting point is 00:58:04 it's because he has a skin issue or whatever it is i mean obviously there's also neglect happening i wonder do you do they love this dog they do yeah it's really it truly is a lack of awareness It's not that they don't love it. I mean, it spends a lot of time with them. It's not a bad dog. It's just, you know, it's a little anxious and it's dirty. Well, that's also something good to say. Like in the letter, like it's very clear to me that you love your dog.
Starting point is 00:58:31 That's very obvious. What is less obvious is the care that he's receiving. And that hurts me to watch it. Keep bringing it back to how it makes you feel instead of being like you're a fucking bad mother, obviously. Right. I wonder, since they love the dog, it's probably not an issue of like, well, maybe we rehome this dog. In some instances, it might be. But maybe it is something like, I also really care for your dog. You know, can we pay for him to go to the groomer, you know, once a year or once every six months or once every three months or whatever? like maybe there is some sort of compromise you can have there where it's like we'd love to see this dog getting the like veterinary treatment he needs and i don't know if that's something that
Starting point is 00:59:11 you want to provide for you know your sister-in-law's dog but i feel like they wouldn't accept it yeah and that and the fact that they just closed down the dog talk like this isn't about the dog anymore like they're not gonna i always find that whenever i'm dealing with a situation like this where i kind of know i'm in the right and i have to apologize to make things right just so people can get along it's always really helpful in these kinds of emails and i think chelsea said coming from a your place like why you got triggered what your background is with it so that they can just kind of go yeah that's her issue and then everything can be fine even though you know but starting out the email and this is just a trick of apologizing don't make
Starting point is 00:59:50 any butts of like i did this but like i like it you said rereading that i was very angry and i might have said some things in a way i didn't want to say it so take accountability for maybe your tone maybe how you could have approached things those things will go so far in making this kind of amends where you put up a boundary of just saying where you could have maybe done things differently that will just give them something to grasp onto other than she's just wrong and she's just kind of like placating us and um yeah because you can find something that you would have done differently which is a a beautiful thing that you're able to do even though you're fucking right yeah that's absolutely true and i think that's a good point because i think the way that i wrote
Starting point is 01:00:33 the message a couple of weeks ago is not the way that i would write it today and i think i was responding to being upset that no wasn't an acceptable answer and we couldn't just on and you know the history of this issue and while i viewed it as i was you know for myself snarky on a scale of two or three out of 10, I probably would tone it down now. You could go to a zero, you know, you could find something that you go, I didn't need, and you don't need to phrase it like I was mad because you didn't take no as an answer. That's again, putting the blame on them. Like I was having a rough week. I was had all this. It's hard to do, but like making it, giving them something so they can go, Oh, it's not our fault. Even though you know what it is like, it's that
Starting point is 01:01:16 kind of thing goes so far when you're dealing with dynamics like this, where they take no accountability. But I'm sorry for the situation. It sucks. Well, let us know how it goes, okay? Keep us posted. I will. We like these kinds of updates. Yes, for sure. Yeah. Thank you for your time. I really appreciate it. Thanks, Brooke. Good luck with everything. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Brooke was so normal and cool that you know her family's a fucking mess. Yeah. Totally. She's going to be the level-headed one. I'm so bad. I always just take sides. You know what I mean? I immediately take a person's side even if that's the only story side of the story I'm hearing yeah like I believe you and they're the worst and you just want your partner to like kind of
Starting point is 01:02:00 turn their back on their family when they're being irrational too but that family dynamic is so locked in especially when it's one where they're just dealing with denial no accountability no apologizing like her wife is probably struggling with separating from that but it just sounds like in the long run, this stuff is going to keep flaring up and there's going to have to be a moment of like, okay, I can't be around you guys anymore unless you get honest. It's tough. There's no shortcut for saving time, but saving money is simple. Just combine your car and home insurance with Bel Air Direct and save. Get a quote at BelAirDirect.com. when i was 14 years old i was kidnapped and held captive for nine months i survived and i've spent
Starting point is 01:02:49 my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them i'm elizabeth smart and these are the survivor files i just remember this low taunting voice next to my ear saying Shut up. Don't say anything. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up, without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed, and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them.
Starting point is 01:03:29 There's stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is Prose Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island
Starting point is 01:03:57 to deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed, I'm obsessed. From best-selling authors and your favorite BookTok creators to the latest pop culture moments,
Starting point is 01:04:15 nothing is off the table. It's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters, then that is a Trojan horse. Whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to Pro Society on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages.
Starting point is 01:04:41 On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle, I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinheiro, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself.
Starting point is 01:05:29 So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Hoda Kotb, host of the podcast Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb. If you know me, you know I'm always searching for inspiration and useful tools to maximize joy. So this podcast lets us uncover those things together through meaningful conversations with fascinating people. Like when my friend Henry Winkler offered advice to aspiring actors and really anybody hoping to stand out. You're not hired just to fill time and space. You're hired to fill the space with you. You have something in your guts, you go with it.
Starting point is 01:06:18 And Shawn Johnson recalled the moment she realized her now-husband, Andrew, was the one. He was just so unapologetically himself and knew nothing of Hollywood. He hadn't been on a plane before without his family. It was so pure. Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Our next question comes from Liv. She says, I need some tough love. I started secretly seeing my company's chief technology officer last summer, and I work in our HR department,
Starting point is 01:06:55 LOL. He currently lives in Florida, and I live right outside of NYC. Our company is based in Manhattan, so he comes into the office frequently for work and meetings. I've also gone down to Florida to visit him. We go out to work happy hours and functions together. We sneak off on dates, just the two of us, and I stay at his hotel, or he stays at my place when he visits. I know I'm in love with him, and we get along so great, and I've brought up taking things to the next level because I can see and would love a future and a real relationship with him. I also want to mention that I'm 25 and he's 42, and he's never been married and has never
Starting point is 01:07:28 had children. The age difference isn't an issue for us, but I'm having a hard time figuring out what he wants out of this, and he's the master of giving me vague answers when I ask. He's told me he likes me a lot, and he's really an awesome guy, but am I being a pushover and just letting him dictate the relationship? Should I continue just casually seeing him whenever he's in town for work? Should I give him an ultimatum?
Starting point is 01:07:51 I'm scared that if I push him too hard, he'll shut down and end what we have going on, which isn't what I want. Also, if we end up together, should we tell a company? Some days I wish I was strong enough to tell him to go kick rocks, and other days I want him to put a ring on my finger. What would you do in my situation, Liv?
Starting point is 01:08:08 Well, Nikki, would you like to go first? I would love. Thank you. okay I know it's so scary because you're scared he's gonna be like well if you give me an ultimatum I'm just gonna choose not being with you no he's not this guy is having sex with a 25 year old hot thing he's probably so in love with you this guy's never been married before not really had relationships he's scared of commitment you're dealing with a guy who's never had a woman like challenge him you need to say this is what I want it doesn't have to be a ring I want a real
Starting point is 01:08:38 relationship with you. And if I can't get that, I'm going to go find one by and you do it. And I know you're scared and you don't mean it, but, and then you wait and you do not talk to him. You not reach out. You don't show up on his stories. You'd make sure that you give him nothing. And it's really good because you're long distance. So he's not going to be able to like show up and see you at work. You need to completely cold Turkey, take yourself away from him and see how it feels to him. He'll freak out and he will be back in no time. a hundred percent read the book getting to i do to help you with this but it's true like you need to give it and give it eight weeks if he doesn't come back in eight weeks i don't know that's
Starting point is 01:09:13 impossible to do as a 25 year old who's in love with someone but they always come back but this guy needs an ultimatum that he needs it because he'll just why would he ever decide to settle down with you and make his life more difficult when he's getting what he wants to fuck you when he he's available to talk to you on the phone when you're available where is there any reason for him to lock this down anymore you're not seeing anyone else he's in you're in love with him you got to get these guys a reason to lock it down because they won't otherwise tough love yeah I would say I would definitely say to be have a very direct conversation with him and don't let it linger like if he's like hey like this is how I feel I want to be in a
Starting point is 01:09:55 relationship and it's totally fine if you don't but if you don't like I need you to be honest with me because then I'm going to go find somebody else and stick to that and stick to that plan as hard as it is you're 25 years old I've been in love like six times since I was 25 so just I'm telling you this might seem like your world right now but it's if it doesn't work out it doesn't work out and then you're going to be on to the next person and you're going to be so grateful that you actually gave this guy an ultimatum to open up your life to meeting the next person so and you didn't waste time waiting for him because so many girls waste so much time just giving guys because they think that if I wish someone would have told me this earlier when you
Starting point is 01:10:34 have a boundary that you're so scared a guy will be like well then I don't want you I swear to god they really don't ever respond that way guys like a girl who gives them boundaries and when you're just available for him whenever you think that's the best way to keep him around it's the best way to keep him around on his terms which are not is not what you want and I know you're probably thinking I'd rather have what we have now than nothing. I don't think that's going to be true further on down the road. You were going to lose so many years of your life waiting for this guy when you could have your answer now, but also your self-respect. Like there's a lot of self-respect and saying, this is what I need. And if I don't get it, I'm going to move on. Not in an angry way.
Starting point is 01:11:11 It doesn't have to be threatening. It just has to be like, Hey, it's totally cool if you don't want to be in a relationship, but just let me know. Cause I'm going to move on. And I'd rather not speak for a while until I figure out something. And I'll let you know, like if we can open up communication again. Make sure that you are firm and that you're able to stick to your plan and don't call him wasted. You know, take his number out of your phone if you need to. But yeah, it's going to give you a lot of strength and self-confidence and then you respect yourself. And then the next person who comes along is going to respect you just as much as you respect yourself. God, the problem is, is so hard to do this when you're 25. I'm like
Starting point is 01:11:46 thinking from my 25 year old perspective being like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice to hear that from you older ladies but I'm not doing like you just don't you can't it's so hard to do this shit but I swear to god I wish I could shake my 25 year old self and listen to this kind of advice because it's the only thing that works I did it I froze out a guy once I forget what the circumstances were I said I don't want to be with you unless you want to be in a committed relationship and he came right back like it took two weeks and I was steadfast I did not speak to him he called me I didn't return his calls and then eventually he's like I want to be in a relationship and guess what I broke up with him like three months later because I've done this I did this when I was
Starting point is 01:12:25 in my 20s too and I was strong enough to do it because I was dating guys that had girlfriends and then eventually they'd be like I'm gonna break up with her and they never would and I would just hang on and so I would go I'm never speaking to you again until you you're you leave her call me when you guys are broken up not a second and both times I've done this in my life they chose that girl over me and thank fucking god they did thank god oh my god I'm so glad I'm not with those fools it's so it was the best gift ever so it sometimes it doesn't work it works the way it's supposed to every single time yeah and i also don't understand why people cheat on girlfriends it's like just fucking break up with your girlfriend like why are you having an affair on a girlfriend it's so
Starting point is 01:13:05 dumb and they married those girls it's so crazy i just go how could you marry you don't cheat on a girlfriend and then marry her you how could they're just it's just the worst but thank god Thank God they didn't choose me. Yeah. All right. Well, keep us updated. Let us know what happens if you give them an ultimatum and what happens. Yep.
Starting point is 01:13:24 And our last question comes from Christy. Christy says, Dear Chelsea, my boyfriend and I have lived in our rented house for the past four years, and I just found out that our landlord will be selling the house within the month. He's selling now to take advantage of the real estate market at present. And while I understand, I am heartbroken. We've truly made this our home for the last four years with so many amazing memories. growing as a couple, and loving and thriving in our small-town community.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Unfortunately, we're not in a financial position to buy right now, which has put us in a difficult spot. We have an opportunity to move in with a close friend and save for all the things we want but haven't been able to save for previously, paying off debt, getting married, maybe even a down payment on our own house. This whole situation has brought up long-standing issues I have with comparison, unworthiness, and self-esteem. I feel like a failure when I compare myself to where my friends or others are at in life and I'm beating myself up for being in this position. I also love our home and our life here and I'm terrified at the prospect of moving even to this new temporary solution. How can I wholeheartedly embrace this new unexpected chapter in my life and drop the
Starting point is 01:14:32 comparison to myself and others? Christy. Hi Christy. Hi. Hi this is this is Nikki our special guests for the day and Catherine. Hi, Nikki. Great to meet you. You too. Okay. So you're going through a little bit of a difficult time in your frame of mind right now. Yeah. You don't know what's coming. You have to move out of your place. That's a fact. So while you had all those great experiences and all that wonderful time, like that's a big gift you got from living there. So you take that with you to this next thing instead of being like, but I'm going to miss it. I'm going to miss it. It doesn't matter. It's time to move on. So the sooner you accept reality and stop resisting reality, A, you're going to be happier. You're just going to understand like,
Starting point is 01:15:16 okay, this is moving forward. That was the past. And you want to be in the present moment and be optimistic about the future. The comparing and the contrasting, like we were just talking about that. Just mute J-Lo. That's what we are doing. Yeah. Any of your friends that bring out the J-Lo in them. Just get them out of your feed. But listen, that's not what it's about. Your life is about your experience, your journey, for lack of a better term, your trajectory, what's going to happen in your life. And the more comfortable you are with the circumstances that you didn't actually ask for or expect, the more you embrace them, the happier you are going to become. Like your brain does a thing where it moves forward or gets stuck in the past. And when you're stuck in
Starting point is 01:16:01 the past it becomes a depressant and when you're only thinking about all the good things you had instead of like that was great I'm going to take all those experiences with me to this next place you have a huge opportunity to get everything you got out of that last place but own this place because of this opportunity that's coming up right totally yeah I think since like the past two weeks when this news broke to us and everything like I definitely went through the motions of grief a lot like grieving our place grieving our time here kind of feeling angry at the situation but now I'm like okay this is our reality and what I'm grappling with now is just like not comparing myself to where other people are at and just kind of like accepting where I'm at because I do play
Starting point is 01:16:47 the comparison game big time and I'm trying to step away from that and just like like you said embrace like, this is what I'm doing now. This is a great opportunity. But it's, it's so hard for me to not play that comparison game, basically. How old are you, Christy? I'm 30. So I mean, there are plenty of people in their late 20s, 30s, even 40s, who especially because of the last two years that we've all been through are like living at home with their parents, which is totally fine. But like, I think this comparison, a lot of it is like a lie on social media that Like everybody is buying a house. Everybody is having kids.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Everybody is getting married and having a great time. Like we post our, it's our highlight reels, you know? So you might find that you have an even better time now that you're moving in with this friend that you and your boyfriend both adore and you're having a great time. So make a highlight reel too. Yeah, make a highlight reel. And also like exercise, like not going online and looking at that shit. Just, just give yourself a period of time.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Like you're not going to believe how much happier you are if you're not scrolling through Instagram. Chelsea, you're so right, but it's so hard to do that. I think when people say like, oh, just take a break from that stuff. My thought when I hear that is, well, I'm still going to know it's there. I'm still going to think about it and it's still going to be there. It doesn't change. But I swear to God, when I started muting people, I would get triggered by a girl's skin.
Starting point is 01:18:08 I would get triggered by a girl announcing she got a special on some kind of thing or whatever. I started muting literally everything that would trigger me on just and just accepting that I'm getting triggered by this dumb thing. and when it's not there when you're not seeing it on your feet it doesn't exist it really doesn't you think it's going to permeate your your mind even when it's not there i swear to god there used to be a girl that me and my friend used to send each other stuff of hers and like how can her skin look so good how does her life look so perfect we used to torture each other about how perfect she was and one day i muted her and i swear to god i for i don't even know she exists and i used to be obsessed with her and it really muting does work it's this thing that you go
Starting point is 01:18:48 no that can't work for me I'll still remember it it takes time but it works and honestly I'm listening to your story about having a good boyfriend like a boyfriend you love being in a place for four years that you made look so cute and that you loved so much and I'm getting jealous of you like I'm finding things about you then I see your fucking luscious locks and your the ability for you to even call into a podcast and have the courage to share a vulnerable story and then get on and talk to some celebrity like all of this stuff is stuff that your friends that you're comparing yourself to could not do any of that honestly like there are things about you that I'm getting jealous of right now so that is to say like be grateful for the things that you do have
Starting point is 01:19:33 and truly I promise you I know it just sounds like just bullshit when people are like that's just like their highlight reel that's not really their lives it really is go through your own Instagram feed and look at how much how much you are lying on it and you'll understand that because I try to put things out there like so honestly I've gone through my feed before I've been like jealous of myself when I really go back and I go wait your hair didn't look that that was just like you put it all to the front my skin looks so good then that you put a filter like we're lying so look at really muting people is a key and just try it and see if it works and I bet it will You're so right. Like even just the other day I was talking with my boyfriend. I was like, maybe I'll just deactivate my Instagram for a little while and just chill and do this move and kind of like get into the groove of things and like enjoy it. And he was like, why not? Like, just live your life. Like, do this next chapter. It's going to be good. He's always like, just vibe. Like, just relax and vibe.
Starting point is 01:20:32 You're so lucky to have this guy. I'm jealous, honestly. And if you don't have to be on Instagram for your work, get the fuck off it for just a break. That is awesome that you even have that ability to do that. Try it. That's so fun. Yeah, I honestly might. I know. I think you should. We're going to order you to. It's a mandate. You're going to have to do it because seriously, like the immediacy of it starts to fade. The first 24 hours might be like, oh, you'll reach for your phone and then go, oh, wait, I'm not doing that. And then it might happen five or six more times. And then after 24 hours, you get into the groove of not checking. And then you're going to realize how much there's a lift that happens where you're not consumed. It's almost like people
Starting point is 01:21:15 cease to exist. Just deactivate your social media or just don't go on, like take it off your thing so you can't activate it on your phone or check just for like, try for five days, really monitor how you feel and after five days be like I like this I'm gonna go another two weeks and also when you get up in the morning name five things make a list of five things that you're grateful for and just say it every single morning I'm grateful for this opportunity for us to save rent you know so we could save up for possibly getting married our own place blah blah blah you know I'm grateful for my boyfriend I'm grateful for my hair that Nikki Glaser is jealous of I am grateful for whatever bagels I'm grateful for fucking bagels every morning I'm like oh my god I fucking love
Starting point is 01:21:55 fucking bagels. But, you know, you are a happy person. We can see that just by talking to you in this short exchange. You're happy. Make the best out of yourself. Don't let anything drag you down to make the worst of you. Make the best of you and do that experiment. I guarantee you're going to have major changes. And I can't wait to hear about them when you call in for an update or write in for an update. Yes. And change is good. I will write in for an update. I appreciate this so much. And I think it's really it's very true. It's just, you know, I need to drop the comparison game. And that's kind of the end goal for me. Also, Chelsea, I just want to say I saw you in Toronto recently, and I forgot my glasses and you were kind of just like a blur on stage.
Starting point is 01:22:34 So this is really nice. Everything I look at is also blurry. So don't worry about that. Thanks for calling in. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Okay, good luck. Bye. Bye. She'll be fine. Yeah, she's gonna she she did say when I talked to her, she's like, I am sort of just looking for that like tough love a little you can do it get to the next step and you know change doesn't have to be a bad thing it can be a good thing it's always a good thing I think change is always a good thing a piece of advice my mom gave me when we moved from like a beloved apartment was before you pack everything up take pictures of your space like just your space because you have a lot of pictures of yourself in the space but not of the space
Starting point is 01:23:16 and it's one of the best things we did you know my friend that's so interesting my friend just moved from her parents moved out of her childhood home and she went around and just filmed like the sounds of the door handles the sounds of the creaking like wood and I was like I wish I would have done that so bad every door handle every door shutting and opening every window unlocking and I was like those sounds are such a great thing to capture so I hope she hears this and does that for this space because I know it meant a lot to her but and then the thing about change I like the quote for some reason there's just some quotes that like permeate and like really get in of it's gonna be okay because it always has been okay you look at other points in your life where
Starting point is 01:23:55 you've been like oh god what and you go well i'm here now being it was okay it's always gonna be okay it because it always has been and that that's a nice reminder well we'll take a quick break and be back to wrap up with nookie and chelsea i think you just called her nookie i like that i like it I did it all for it. There's no shortcut for saving time, but saving money is simple. Just combine your car and home insurance with Bel Air Direct and save. Get a quote at BelAirDirect.com. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and held captive for nine months.
Starting point is 01:24:36 I survived, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are The Survivor Files. I just remember this low, taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up, without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed, and I just started screaming.
Starting point is 01:25:11 They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. They're stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is Prose Society,
Starting point is 01:25:38 the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. From bestselling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table it's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters and that is a trojan horse whether you're looking for literary deep dives smart pop culture
Starting point is 01:26:17 conversations or a community of readers who love to think a little too much you're in the right place listen to pro society on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. On the new podcast Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinheiro and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around
Starting point is 01:27:04 here. It's when you're alone that you're most receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip. I hope you listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Hoda Kotb, host of the podcast Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb. If you know me, you know I'm always searching for inspiration and useful tools to maximize joy. So this podcast lets us uncover those things together through meaningful conversations with fascinating people. Like when my friend Henry Winkler offered advice to aspiring actors and really anybody hoping to stand out.
Starting point is 01:27:58 You're not hired just to fill time and space. You're hired to fill the space with you. You have something in your guts. You go with it. And Shawn Johnson recalled the moment she realized her now husband, Andrew, was the one. He was just so unapologetically himself and knew nothing of Hollywood. He hadn't been on a plane before without his family. It was so pure.
Starting point is 01:28:23 Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Fabulous. Now, Nikki, is there some advice you wanted to get from Chelsea? Yes. I would like to honestly hear how the fuck do I write a book? Oh, you just got to start writing one, girl. You just got to open your computer and start.
Starting point is 01:28:53 That is the biggest hurdle is just start it and write and just give yourself an hour, a day, 30 minutes, whatever you can handle initially, and then you get into it. You start to get into it because I just did this the other day because I was like, my book agents were like, oh, we need a book proposal. I'm like, a book proposal? I've fucking written six New York Times number one bestsellers.
Starting point is 01:29:11 I'm like, just go. Really? Yeah, well, I'm not doing that. But anyway, I'm like, I'll write the book and I'll fucking sell it. So you just have to start writing. I just opened my computer and I just literally wrote the title, the Filipino in me, a love story, Chelsea Handler. And I started writing and I wrote two paragraphs and they're not going to ever end up like those are the first two paragraphs of my book. But once you just start, it flows, it comes, it comes.
Starting point is 01:29:34 But you have to give yourself the avenue. You just have to open that document and say and write a title and start and it will come to you. You're a prolific performer, a comedian, a writer like your creator. the first hurdle is the biggest hurdle. And then it all kind of works itself out. It's just starting. Yeah. And you know what's so great about it, Nikki? You're going to appreciate the cleverness and craftiness of that artistic endeavor because it differs from standup, yet it feeds, they both feed each other. You know, my books always turn into a standup special and then
Starting point is 01:30:03 turn into like a TV show that I want to develop or, and a standup tour. So like, yeah, just, you know, that it all works in that kind of creative circle and it all goes together. And then you're going to just, you're going to get into it. I know you will. What about from your first book to your book you're writing now? What would you have told yourself when you started that first book that you maybe didn't know that you've learned from writing so many? Just the more authentic you are, you know, like there's so many people that are going to relate to your stories. I mean, my first book was about one night stands. I just did. It was called My Horizontal Life, a collection of one night stands.
Starting point is 01:30:34 And my last book, it was Life Will Be the Death of Me, a complete evolution from my 20 year old self to my 40 year old self and like self-awareness, self-discovery, self-exploration, all those terms. And I was so into learning about writing and about sentence structure and about storytelling that I was soaking it all up. You know, I would write and then my editor and I worked really closely together to edit like three hours every morning once I had everything down on the page. And I couldn't get enough of it because like I understood what certain phrases were, what words were, how you use a clause, like when do you use like an em dash versus an em dash, all those little things. It's fun to learn the use of language. that's why I'm such a I love language like I love words if I don't know a word I have to look it up I can't go on yes so I think anyone who has a real like love of language which I think every comedian does enjoys the process of writing a book all right all right it sounds like you just do it
Starting point is 01:31:31 you gotta just start it start it today open your computer and just start I mean I have started it's the problem like it's just hard for me I'll I'll write like a ton and I'll send it to like I have a woman that I kind of hired to like help me structure it and and help me figure out what the theme is and all this stuff it's just painful I like stand-up because I just get on stage and start talking and the jokes kind of come out like I don't ever sit down and write and I think it's just being okay with being uncomfortable I'm just getting I've structured my life so I'm never uncomfortable anymore and I just do what I want and writing a book is is just as uncomfortable as starting stand-up and I just have to be open to it yeah well I would argue that if you're not
Starting point is 01:32:07 uncomfortable you're not growing as much as you could be totally you know you have to be uncomfortable yes yes okay i'll get uncomfortable i'll do it okay that i mean that's kind of yeah i just wanted just do it like there's no trick just put on your nikes and put on your nike shirt it says just do it and then act like you're serena williams and write that fucking book all right all right it's as simple as that it's simple simple easy breezy well this was just a a light, Nikki. This was awesome. So much fun. Oh my God. I love you guys. Yeah, this was great. Thank you so much for your time today. Thank you so much for having me. And you can catch Nikki's show on E! Her reality show's on E! She's also on tour. It's called One Night with Nikki Glaser.
Starting point is 01:32:50 You can get tickets at NikkiGlaser.com or probably Ticketmaster, right, Nikki? Yep. Yep. And then my podcast. I do every day, Monday through Thursday. Okay. And where can people find your podcast? It's just anywhere you get podcasts, it's called the Nikki Glaser podcast and there's tons of episodes but it's one of those podcasts that you can just jump in you don't need to like listen to back ones I think a lot of people don't listen to new podcasts because they're like oh how am I gonna catch up just jump in and join us it's me and my roommate just and my producer just like hanging out and talking and sharing and being really really super honest and it's funny and it's real and I just love it so is that your roommate
Starting point is 01:33:25 in St. Louis yeah well he moved out he's he's still in the same building but he got a girlfriend So we moved out. So now I live alone. But yeah, Andrew Collin. Oh, OK, cool. All right. Cool. Thank you, Nikki. I'll see you soon. Thank you, Chelsea. Thank you, Catherine. Bye, guys. See you soon. Bye. Take care. So if you'd like to ask Chelsea a question, email us at DearChelseaProject at gmail.com. I survived nine months in captivity and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are The Survivor Files.
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