Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler - Outsourcing the Human Experience with Zachary Quinto

Episode Date: October 24, 2024

Zachary Quinto joins Chelsea to talk about why we’re using AI to remove ourselves from our feelings, shared consciousness, and why things come to you in life’s perfect timing.  Then: A 40-something wrestles with her self-image.  A new romance is on hold over an HIV status.  And a fiance struggles to tell his disapproving father he’s getting married. * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at [e-mail] * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I mean, I'm in a really, really positive space, in a positive mood. I've been reading like a little chapter from Letting Go every morning just to make sure I had my head on straight along with my meditation and my gratitude. Amazing. And I mean, that takes a long fucking time actually. Every morning I have to like get ready. It takes like an hour, but it's worth it because it puts my head on straight. I had a lot of crazy little things this weekend and I just chose not to let any of them deter me and stay positive and vibrant and high. and there was a man sitting next to me on a plane

and it could have gone either way. It really could have gone south. And I made sure that it did not. Good. And luckily I had a huge set of headphones on me. Excellent. Just tune everybody out and just be your own world. Tune everybody out and just keep the vibes high.

Oh, and then people were recommending me to read this other book, Power Versus Force, which is really about physics and quantum physics, which is really like I've never read anything like that. And I'm, I'm into it because yeah, it kind of explains your energy field and why there is energy coming off of everything. And like it's relation to kinesiology, you know, how like if you're around something that's not good for you, like say artificial sweeteners or something, you, and they press

your arm down on what, like your arm will have less strength in it. And I once went to this spa in Salzburg, Switzerland, or maybe it was over Salzburg. I don't know. I don't know. Somewhere where Hitler came from. And they did a lot of kinesiology testing there. They figure out what you're allergic to. So they put like dander on your leg

and then you do a strength test. And if you are strong, you're not allergic to dander. If you're weak, when it's on there. And it's pretty fascinating when you see that because it shows your allergies right away. But all that stuff is so hard to measure. So it's scientific, yet people are a little bit resistant to that philosophy

because they don't see it as easily measured. But anyway, I also had a Celsius this morning. So they are out of my little energy packets from Kiani. They made these little natural guarana energy packets because I don't drink coffee. So I would take those every morning when I'd wake up and they discontinued them. No. So I had a Celsius on my way to Ben Bruno this morning. Now you're really rocking.

So now I'm fucking out of my tree. And I'll be in Indianapolis, St. Louis, and Kansas City this weekend. And if you haven't gotten your tickets yet, I don't even know what to say to you. All right. Should we introduce the guests? Yes, I'm so excited to talk to him. I haven't seen him in years, but I've seen him on TV now. Please welcome Zachary Quinto.

Hi, cutie. How are you? I was so, you know what? I was so excited. I don't really care when people actually come to my house or not for podcast purposes, as long as I don't really have to go far. But I was kind of looking forward to giving you a big hug with your masculine, with your big, hot, masculine body.

Bring it. I haven't seen you in so long. It's been a long time. I was thinking today as well how much I was looking forward to connecting with you. It's nice to see you again. You know what? did something so embarrassing but of course i know i can tell you i was at this restaurant in santa monica and i saw zachary levi and i was talking to him like it was you until halfway

through the real conversation i said are you seeing anyone now and i don't remember what he said but he intimated somehow he was you know seeing a woman and i was like a woman he said what are you what are you talking about he said what are you talking about and then i was like this is not who i think it is so it's like i have the condition that you have on your show yeah right face blindness prosopagnosia that sounds like a word i want to add to my repertoire it's a real well it's a good out in situations like that i'm so sorry exactly why i suffer from prosopagnosia i thought you were someone else that is a good a good way to exit the awkward situation if you have to and what is it called what is the layman term for that face

blindness face blindness which your character on your show brilliant minds which is fucking awesome by the way i just watched three episodes wow you had me working out for three hours this morning because i was like oh it's why you look so amazing i'll take all the credit and then i'll play the next one but that's a great show on on peacock that i didn't know about and now i know about and we need to tell everybody that doesn't know about it how great it is because first of i love a procedural don't you too absolutely i love and i love the premise and i love a doctor for good taking chances bring it taking risks for the good of everybody's because there's obviously a very metaphysical aspect to this yeah well it you know the it's based on a real

life person i think that's always a good place to start when we're talking about brilliant minds it's based on oliver sacks actually this is right on my desk i didn't plan that but he has a book coming out, edited by Kate Edgar, who heads the Oliver Sacks Foundation. Oliver Sacks was a prolific author as well as a revolutionary neurologist in the mid-20th century. And he wrote dozens and dozens of books, case studies about his patients and the man who mistook his wife for a hat, most notably Awakenings. Many, many musicophilia anthropologists on Mars. There tons of books that he wrote he also wrote many essays and gave many lectures and speeches he was an incredible man and he was driven by the pursuit of understanding who his patients were before they

were stricken with whatever neurological condition disease disorder or injury befell them and he was always that was always his north star the the engine of his purpose was to find their dignity and their sense of personhood within whatever they were struggling with. And it set him apart in a lot of ways. And he really revolutionized the field of medicine and also the field of literature, right? Because medicine has become so diagnostic and technology and the advancements of technology have allowed medicine to become so diagnostic.

We've lost the humanity of medicine. And Oliver Sacks was somebody who was pretty singularly interested in resurrecting the humanity of medicine. And so our show, while I don't play Oliver Sacks, I play a character who is based on him. And every aspect of the character that I play is drawn from the actual life of Oliver Sacks. But the character that I play exists in a modern day story in a world that's taking place right now. Getting this role must have really added to your own kind of, I want to say spirituality, but perhaps there's a better word for it. Consciousness. Consciousness. Yes. Thank you. There you go. Consciousness. Has it? Yes, 100%. It's really kind of been amazing for me to zoom out and see how all of my experiences

have brought me to this place. Just the idea of where our journeys take us, right? And that at this moment, particular moment, that I'm playing this role in this show and putting this message out into the world there are no mistakes I find and I do feel like it is a an evolution of where I've been and I think Oliver Sacks and my intersection with him I sadly never got to meet him while he was still alive but my intersection with him in this creative way and in this profoundly meaningful way to me is something very special and so Oliver Sacks was somebody who was really designed to examine the last frontier of the human experience which is the brain the mind and consciousness and i know chelsea you know we share this quest in our own

journeys in individual ways like you and i are both i think one of the reasons why i've always been so drawn to you is you know we're very similar age and and we i think you're just as you're, you're, you're curious in a similar way to me and what I've watched of you and read of you and know of you, you know, you and I kind of will never stop digging. And Oliver Sacks was like that, right? So the excavation, the process of excavation of who we are as human beings is something that drove him and motivated him. And, uh, and, and similarly, I think it drives me and motivates me and you too. And so it's no mistake that we're all talking about this right now. And so in terms of consciousness and where we are in consciousness right now, I think it is a pivotal

moment in our evolution as a civilization, as a species. And I think Oliver Sacks is as much a part of that conversation as you and I are right now sitting here in the flesh. Yeah. And including everybody actually. Yeah. Because I think we were just talking about that book, Letting Go. I don't know if you've read that have you ever read that by david hawkins it's a great book about consciousness but it's just about you know how leading with love and like love really is the answer to everything like you know stop resisting stop fighting stop arguing stop being negative stop getting in negative patterns that you can't get out of but you can get out of them it's never too late to get out of your negativity and and like the vibes bring the vibes up you know what

i mean when you're around somebody and you leave them and you feel better after having seen them that's because they have high vibes and then they are infecting you by osmosis with their high vibes and my goal and our goal as a planet should obviously be like you know so much love could heal and hate doesn't bring us anything good it just brings us more acrimony i'm so happy to hear you say this and and just to piggyback on that you know we are living in this moment right now it is such an unprecedented time what we're experiencing right now the ground is shifting beneath our feet as we're standing on it so so it's there there's an urgent need right now the urgent need of the time right now is for exactly what you're saying is for everybody who has even

the faintest inkling of that sensibility that you just articulated to do whatever they can do to tune their listening to that vibration and allow that vibration to strengthen within them and then allow that strengthening of the vibration within them to reverberate in other people that will then continue to amplify that out and out and out and what we're witnessing right now in my estimation is that collectively we have decided to focus on the wrong things and all of this attention if you look at how it's built and built and built and it's really building to this election isn't it right you you look at how it's built and i'm not just talking about in the united states but just in terms of the broader spectrum, we have created these paradigms that are based

in the binary, one way or the other, right or wrong, black and white. I'm on this side, you're on that side. When the reality is that those are all reactions that are coming from a place of completely justifiable and understandable fear. Fear, fear, fear has driven us to this place of binary thinking and clinging to the constructs that we have all agreed upon for generations are going to be the foundation of how we relate to one another and how we see one another and how we think of one another. But when we really zoom out and consider what we are up against and what we are now, not about to, but what we are now entering into moving forward right the existential crises that present themselves to us namely and there are many

i don't need to name them all but namely climate change and artificial intelligence let's just start there climate change we're already seeing it's not something that's going to happen i we don't have to argue about it i don't want to get into the semantics of the black and white of it right north carolina florida in the last two weeks we have seen these unprecedented catastrophic the cataclysmic experiences that are just the beginning, but they are happening at an accelerated rate. They're happening more frequently and they're happening in more anomalous situations, like in the mountains of North Carolina, where they shouldn't be happening, right? So if we take this as the harbinger of what's to come, we recognize that within the next 10,

15, certainly 20 years, the kinds of mass migrations that we're going to see on the planet, right? The tens of millions of people who are going to have to move from place to place because the place that they're in now are no longer inhabitable. That's one thing. And then you just blow in underneath that artificial intelligence and machine learning. We've already invited that into the conversation. We don't know what it's capable of. We don't know how fast or how dramatically it's going to evolve, but we've already brought it into the conversation. So it's already here. People are already using chat GPT to write their cover letters. And so it's already here we're divesting ourselves of the experience of being human we're outsourcing the human

experience to this artificial intelligence and we have no idea where that's going to take us so collectively we are on the precipice of change that we can't even fathom because if you add just those two variables and there are many others but if you add just those two variables to the equation then we have no idea what the future looks like and so the constructs that we've agreed upon in the past are rapidly dissolving. And my feeling is that consciousness and the rapid expansion of consciousness is the only way that we have any chance of moving forward with success to thrive or to survive. So for me, it is exactly what you're saying. And I think people all around the planet right now are feeling it and sensing it. And even if

they don't know what it is, they're tapping into something bigger than themselves because it's everywhere you look. And it is our responsibility to amplify that and bring people into the light, just like you're saying. So I'm glad to hear you say it. I know I feel like I've been talking for about 17 minutes without shutting up, but I feel so strongly about it right now. And it feels so urgent that we have to talk about it. Yeah, I agree with you. I feel the same way. I'm intent on spreading, infecting as many people with kindness as I can. Do you meditate? Yes, I do.

Good. What kind of meditation do you do? I do Vedic meditation, which is an offshoot of TM. So it's the same technique as TM. It's just a different community. And it's a twice daily practice mantra based. What about you? I do a Chopra app mostly.

I do like a guided meditation about 20 minutes each morning. So Chopra comes from the Vedic world. I mean, Deepak Chopra is that is the same. We are the same in that practice. And I say to anybody who has a meditation practice right now, and especially for the next three weeks before the election, meditation, meditation, meditation. It is DEF CON 5, all hands on deck. If you have a practice or you know people who have practices, now is the time to come to your practice and hold space. because not only do we have to hold space for our own experiences we have to be able to hold space for the experience of the collective because this is a collective shift of consciousness that's happening right now it's not an individual shift of consciousness it is happening on the individual

level on the micro level but if you zoom out and look at the macro level you know just think about what what we're fighting about right think about what we're fighting about think about the middle least. I am not wading into those waters in terms of the politics, the history. I have no authority or knowledge to do so. However, I will say that it is one of the binaries that is the most kind of volatile binaries on the planet right now. But if you zoom out, the reality is that what we're fighting over is land that will be uninhabitable in the next 25 years by anybody so that the Palestinians and the Jews are going to have to shoulder to shoulder walk together to find a place where they all can live and survive. So we are focusing on the hatred. We're focusing on

we no longer have the luxury to be defined by the constructs that have defined us for the last hundreds of years and generations. We just as a civilization no longer have the luxury of being defined by whether we're Jewish or Palestinian or gay or straight or cis or trans or black or white that conversation is over and how we recognize the end of that conversation and evolve that conversation into what the new conversation has to be is the moment that we're living through right now and as terrifying as it is it is also profoundly full of beauty and possibility and creativity and joy and that is our job to to move in that direction and to move toward that because we're not going to change anybody's minds we're not going to change

anybody and and the reality is as well that you know the planet can't sustain the current trajectory of population that that that we're you know barraging it with so the reality is that things are going to shift cataclysmically and they already are look at the wars look at the natural disasters around the planet there's nothing we can do to stop that stuff but what we have to do is evolve adapt and you know that's what oliver sacks believed that's why there's no mistake that i happen to be you know playing this character right now at this moment think about all the fucking dark twisted fucked up characters i've played so you know and and my own journey from the dark into the light and now i get to play a role and tell stories and put them into

the world from a place of evolution and adaptation. And on my own personal journey, that's been true. And I think creatively, that's been true. And hopefully, collectively, that will be true as well as we continue to move forward. This was like a sermon. Oh, my gosh. I loved it. This is not what I was expecting today, but lovely. I mean, look at you. I mean, I really couldn't have said it better myself. I love it. I'm glad to hear it. I'm sorry I went on a rant, but I've just been thinking about it so much. And And also, there's no mistake that I'm doing fucking press for that. I swear, I can swear, right? It's you. I shouldn't have been there. But you know that I'm doing press that I have that I have an opportunity to connect with like minded people in this way. And I just knew coming into this that you're probably on the same wavelength because that's why I've always been drawn to you even before I met you or knew you.

And I just saw you as someone who is asking the questions, pushing the boundaries, you know, not letting yourself off the hook, digging deeper. And that's what we need. We need to reach out to one another and then bring the people who are kind of aware of that sensibility, even if they haven't completely accessed it themselves along for the journey that is ahead. because the true definition or the true meaning of consciousness isn't just being conscious about what's happening in your life it's about having a collected consciousness with the entire world so every single person matters in the same way there aren't people who matter more or less at all and that's where yeah and so there it does feel like a tipping a point especially if the election goes the way that i want it to i feel like that we all want it to that are sitting here today i feel like you know then we really do have an opportunity to change the world because you know climate change is is the it's out the door it's happening and what we need in response

to that is not more fighting we need all hands on deck and love totally to receive these people who are no longer going to have a safe place to live to actually be able to help and aid and send aid you know there are so many things that we're going to have to deal with can you imagine having additional wars and then climate change. And, you know, it's like, let's stop with the wars and start with the love. And water, water wars and the, you know, the wars that climate change is going to ignite. Right. So the other thing that I think is important to kind of bring into this conversation a little bit about, about evolution is that one essential element of evolution is destruction. That's just a simple fact of nature, creation, maintenance, destruction.

These three operating forces are always at play in nature. And if we consider that as human beings, we are individual expressions of nature, if we're operating from this place, which is scientifically proven, that we are all expressions of extensions of one unified field of consciousness, right? This is quantum physics. This is, you know, what is far beyond my level of intellectual capacity to understand, let alone explain. But, you know, quantum physics proves the idea that all matter comes from one source, which is unmanifest and then becomes manifest. then we all do come from the same place right we are all connected in ways that we don't even comprehend or understand and yet we have lived in a world that for millennia has really existed on this idea of individual identity right personal egoic identity and now we are confronted with profound transformations that no longer allow us to hide behind those constructs right those constructs are dissolving. And now we have to accept the fact that destruction in many forms is a part of progress. And so the election, for example, I think represents two very different

paths. Are we going to move forward with an administration who has some awareness of and some understanding of the context as it is in a larger sense? Or are we going to move forward with an administration who is completely limited in their ability to see what's actually happening and focused on holding on to the past, returning to something that never will be. Well, on that note, we're going to take a break and we're going to be right back with Zachary Levi. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and held captive for nine months. I survived, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are the Survivor Files.

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I hope you listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so for Zachary Quinto, for this portion of the show, we take callers. And I know that you're excited to give advice to some people because you're good at it. and it's real people so it's exciting i find it very very um what's the word it's more than satisfying it feels meaningful okay good there's connection there which is just what we've been talking about oh great you know there's shared consciousness and now we'll share some consciousness yeah let's share our consciousness we're gonna infect some more people yeah well our first question is just an email this comes from amanda tldr i don't i what

What does that mean? What? Oh, it means too long. Didn't read. So it's like a summary. TLDR. I want to not give a shit what other people in my workout bubble look like so I can stop comparing myself to them. As an athletic, healthy 44-year-old woman who loves to stay active, I've always tried to embrace a positive relationship with my body.

I'm not trying to look like a 20-something anymore. I've always loved the gym. And during COVID, I discovered the Tracy Anderson method. I've completely fallen for it. I practice five to six times a week and truly enjoy the process. But constantly being bombarded by this and other fitness marketing online can sometimes have a negative impact on my self-esteem. I often find myself feeling self-deprecating and critical of my body, especially when I

compare myself to the trainers and many women who post their workouts with their perfect size two bodies and somehow have their makeup and hair looking perfect to boot. I often will record myself training, but then I see myself and I'm mortified and won't post it. It's like a downward spiral. I know I shouldn't let these comparisons affect me, especially at my age, but I find it challenging to appreciate my body and health when I'm bombarded with unrealistic standards. It's gotten so much worse in my 40s. I'm a grown ass, smart, educated woman. Why do I let this bother me? And how can I stop comparing myself to picture perfect bodies? I just want to feel happier about my own body. Warmly, Amanda. I don't know. What do you think? You're very active.

I've seen you ski topless on many a mountainside. Yes, yes. I would say on the subject of letting go, let it go. If looking at other videos and fitness videos or people in your class posting or looking at them while you're working out, if those things bother you, focus on yourself. Just focus on yourself. Everybody has these feelings that you're talking about,

but it's up to you to like cut the cord of comparison like that's why i don't spend five hours a day online looking at people's instagrams that's because it's bad for you it's bad to compare it can what is it comparison is the thief of joy comparison is the thief of joy that's the latest quote that's been going around that i heard and it is so true it is that is not your body that is not your problem you're you're your problem yeah and you can either make yourself victorious or you can make yourself a problem. So the fact I would say that you're working out five to six times a day doing,

I've done that workout before. That's not easy. You should be celebratory of the fact that you are doing the best that you can do and stop comparing yourself to other people. That is a losing scenario. So write something down on your fridge or your mirror or wherever you look at the most

and say, comparison is the thief of joy. Write that down. That's all you need to know. And imprint it on your mind. And, you know, once you read something enough times, you don't need to see it every single day. You remember when you wake up, you know, and then it becomes part of who you are. Because, yeah, I just don't think there's any, you don't get any benefit from depleting yourself of the pride that you have earned from going and working out to make yourself feel better every single day. Why are you letting anyone take that away from you?

And I would also only just say that this difference between where are you looking for your sense of self? Where are you looking for your sense of validation and purpose and meaning in the world? Are you looking outside of yourself for that? So you're looking to import that feeling from people's reactions to you like, oh my God, you look so good or you lost so much weight or you look so skinny. so then you feel better about yourself. Well, that's importing that feeling from somewhere else as opposed to allowing the discipline, the commitment, the endorphins, the progress that you're making in your own life to be the source of your fulfillment, which you can then radiate and export out to the world. So this difference between importing a sense of validation and exporting a sense of validation. When you're importing a sense of validation, you need to keep looking for it. You need to keep looking for it from other people. You need to keep looking for it from, you know, is it comparison? Is it I'm successful? I'm in love. I'm whatever. So

you're looking for it somewhere else and then it's unsustainable. But if you're able to shift that focus and recognize that what you're doing by committing to your own well-being, committing as a 44-year-old woman, I think she said, to, you know, embracing life and staying active and keeping your body engaged, that's more than 95% of people on the planet are doing. So shift your focus to recognize how wonderful that is, what a generous thing you're doing for yourself, right? And then you can hopefully focus that energy on yourself and then cultivate a place from which that gratitude and that pride, that well-deserved self-directed pride can then be something that other people see in you and recognize as something that inspires them, then you're

magnetizing people into your experience who are drawn to you because you have generated this light that brings them in, not because you're looking for other people to shine their light on you to make you feel better. Right. It doesn't matter how bang in your bod is if your vibration is low. Yeah. Or it doesn't matter how bang in your bod is if all you care about is that other people see that or feel that way. Exactly. But I love what you just said, because it's, you know, you can you can attract people on so many different levels and in so many different ways. You're focusing on the wrong thing, like infuse yourself with the positivity that you derive from working out and just let

that be. And I promise you, you're going to have a different outlook. Yeah, this might be a great place to to incorporate. Chelsea recommends a lot of gratitude journal and do that for 30 days, just focusing on like, here's what my body can do. Here's what I was able to do yesterday. Here's how strong I feel today. And really focusing on that for, for 30 days. Yeah. And you know what, also I, I just talked to someone about this and it was somebody who was very unexpectedly wrote a gratitude journal that I was like, really? He must've been a straight man. But anyway, he, he was saying to me that he did do it, not at my behest, but at someone else's, a friend of mine. And he said, I mean, it's vibrationally like how you can change your

attitude, how you can change your outlook. Like it's a matter of days if you just put that down to practice, like all these little things you can do to keep the vibes high. It wasn't Zachary Levi, was it? It was probably Zachary Levi. I mean, most things are Zachary Levi with me. Thanks, Amanda. And let us know if that changes things for you. Our next question comes from Brian, and he's going to be calling in. Is it Zachary Levi? Yeah, he identifies as Greg. He does.

So Brian says, Dear Chelsea, I've recently started dating a new guy and he's absolutely wonderful. He's got a great job. He's super sweet and has a good support system around him and texts in full, complete sentences. I know Chelsea will appreciate that one. I do appreciate that. There's just one caveat. He's undetectable, untransmittable, HIV positive, meaning his viral load is so low that he's

not able to pass it along or so the science says. I have, however, heard of cases where this has still occurred. I'm also on PrEP, so that's another layer of protection. And obviously, condoms can be used as well, although I'm allergic to latex and haven't used condoms in years. I really like this guy, and we're at the point of exploring things physically. I just have some worries with this, as it's a huge potential risk, I feel. It's a risk I'm willing to take in the right situation, for sure. I just don't know when that time is, sincerely, Brian.

Hi, Brian. Hi, Brian. Hi. Hi, this is our special guest, Zachary Quinto today. Hi, Zachary Quinto. Nice to meet you. Is it Kinto or Quinto? You're right, you're right, Chelsea, it's Quinto.

Quinto, okay, sorry, sorry. He's telling you he's a fan. I'm like, is it Quinto, Quint? I'm sitting here like an asshole. Sorry, anyway, welcome to our show. I'm glad you're both here. That's a great question. Have you spoken to your doctor about this at all?

Yeah, that was my first question too. Not specifically about this situation, about protection to begin with. I think that's why I started PrEP about a year and a half ago. So I've had kind of the general over overlying conversation, but not specifically about this situation yet. I mean, I agree with Chelsea. I think that is certainly the place to start to sit down with your doctor and explain the

situation and come up with a plan that your doctor feels is reliable, you know, medically sound and reliable. But I mean, the evolution of medical technology is so incredible. and you know our generation has benefited from that um still greatly so you know between prep which you're on and and his treatment which keeps him undetectable i mean the percentage chance of transmission is like point something right like point zero something i think it's really really low and so how long have you been together um not long i'd say about a month uh okay but it's a little bit long distance so we've been on probably like six or seven days i'm supposed to see him

tonight actually so oh wow exciting yeah and how openly are you able to talk about it with him communication's been really great he was very you know forthcoming from the beginning and you know gave a lot of information and answered any and all questions so that was good i think it's just for me the big question is do i want to and even though the risk is super super low do you want to take that risk if it's not something that's going to work out yeah and so that's the question that i think i have for him but i just i don't know exactly how to phrase that and come across obviously endearing with compassion yeah i mean i would just say you're from my experience communication communication communication you know share your feelings because if if your

relationship is meant to evolve into something substantive and meaningful and sustainable then communication is the only foundation on which you can build a relationship for which that will be true so you have to be able to bring all the parts of yourself the scared parts the vulnerable parts the parts that you feel like might get rejected to the conversation from the beginning because if what you're navigating is hey is it are you feeling this way that i'm feeling like this could be something significant and and and he is feeling that way then the conversation will lead you to the next phase or the next chapter, right? But I don't think you can make it all about this one issue. I think what you need to do is figure out a way to maybe separate out

that concern with the bigger question, which is like, hey, are we doing this thing? Because if you're doing this thing and you're together, then as long as you have a foundation of openness, honesty, and communication, there's nothing else you can't figure out. Oh, absolutely. I really appreciate that. Speaking of making it about the whole conversation, there's been an update since I wrote in and since I talked to Catherine last week. Oh, yes. You're pregnant. But again, it's been moving forward. And so it's been moving in the right direction and all that. However, on Thursday, I was with him and he told me that he's kind of unhappy at his place of work

right now. But there's one boss that's kind of kept in there that he's very, very close with. And he got worried that that boss is potentially leaving for a job out of state. And they've asked him to go if it all works out. So he has some big decisions to make with that. It wouldn't happen for like four to six months, even if it did happen. So that's kind of a new wrinkle that's been thrown in. Well, where would he go? Because it's already long distance.

So where would he move? Well, long distance now, it's only about 45 minutes to an hour. So it's not bad. It's definitely manageable to see each other a couple times a week at least. but this would be five hours away uh-huh okay well that's still manageable i mean listen that's a gift sometimes a little distance i mean every relationship that i know that's successful is because the two people are traveling extensively so please don't use that as like a reason to not be with someone it's very good to have space and to have someone five hours away is no big deal

that's an hour flight or do you mean a five-hour flight it's a five-hour drive but it's in the middle of nowhere so there is no direct flight um or well you could parachute in don't worry about that right yeah i wouldn't worry about those problems until they arise and they're actually concrete and i wouldn't consider it a problem you know what i mean just kind of like reframe everything you're talking about i the fact that you guys have had this conversation a month in means that this guy is responsible is respectful and actually cares about you right i mean he told you everything he needed to tell you before anything happened the risk sounds very low obviously i'm not going to give you any medical advice because i'm not a doctor even though i

want to be and i love medications and pills and i love giving advice but i don't want to be responsible for that but i just as a gut i think i think you're going to be fine and i understand all of the concerns you have but we are living in a time that is much different than when aids came on the scene you know what i mean this this is a much different world people live with it healthfully for decades you know look at magic johnson look and it's not just wealthy people i have friends who have aids or hiv as well um yeah so yeah just not that you're trying to get it but i'm just saying it's just not what it was so i want you to think about it in that in that frame too because it's really important to find somebody that you can trust that you can love

that respects you and the feeling is mutual so i would focus on those issues first and anything else you can navigate yeah i appreciate that yeah and he's so sweet and it's been such a breath of fresh air and it's definitely something that i want to explore so i really really appreciate all the words yeah you should explore it see where it takes you it sounds like a nice beginning to something that even though there's a lot of unknowns you can't miss what's meant for you so if if this is something that is supposed to be in your life then everything will unfold so that that is possible. Great.

Now that's really, really great advice. I appreciate it. Okay. Well, thank you, Brian. I'll see you in a month. I'll be at one of your shows in Texas. Oh, Texas. You're in Texas.

Well, try to get out of there as quickly as you can. I'll see you there. All right. Thank you. All right. Thanks for calling in. All right. Our next caller is Chris.

He says, Dear Chelsea, I recently got engaged to my partner after 18 years. Marriage was never a must, and it just felt like the right time for us, but our relationship is not what my email is about. So when we got engaged, I called to tell my mom the news and got a less than excited response. To be honest, it was exactly the response I expected, so it wasn't a disappointment. However, before she even said her lackluster congratulations, the first thing she said was, we won't tell your father. This is where I need advice. I've never been particularly close to my dad, and when I came out, it made a not great relationship pretty bad for a few years. I didn't come around for a while. While things have improved, my being

gay and in a relationship is just never discussed or talked about. My dad is 95 years old, I'm 40, and my mom says he won't be able to handle the news of my engagement, almost implying it would kill him literally. I don't feel right not telling my dad, and I don't need his approval, and I'm not looking for him to all of a sudden embrace my relationship, but I'm also not going to hide my future marriage. How do I handle this? Hi, how are you? Nice to meet you. This is Zachary Conto, our special guest today. Hi, how are you? Nice to meet you. How are you? Good, good. Here comes Doug. This is my big black magic. Oh, Doug. Here he goes. Okay. Hi. So congratulations, by the way. Congrats on your engagement. That's exciting. That's exciting. How long have you been

with your partner uh 18 years oh okay it's fantastic it was time okay cool geez 18 years and you're 40 yeah yep so you're with him what's in 22 years 22 years old and you're still together just out of college yeah that's amazing is he the same age as you are no he's a bit older he's in his 60s oh interesting okay so does your mother know him already yeah my mom does yep okay is she preventing you from telling your father or suggesting that you not tell your father because of who it is or because of just the fact that you're gay? Just the fact that I'm gay. I mean, he knows. He's never met my partner, Jeff. For a while, when I first came out, you know, I sort of stayed away from the family for several years.

Slowly, I sort of got back in with the family and, you know, went back to doing some family events. Jeff has never met my dad. It's just never not something that's talked about. It's just I'm around just to help keep the peace almost sometimes it seems. I'm sorry that that's been your experience. That's pretty disappointing. I'm sorry, too. That is difficult and challenging. And I'm sure probably a heavy thing to carry in the face of such a celebratory moment. So I'm sorry that you're at that crossroads. And Chris, I wanted to just drop in here as well. Something that came up when we were chatting in our pre-interview was that generally you

said that your dad has sort of softened. He's been saying, I love you more, hugging. Can you tell us a little bit about that? Yeah, he's 95. So he's getting up there in age. So, you know, part of it's just like, is he just set in his ways, you know, but just over the years, you know, whenever I see him and whenever, you know, me and my siblings, when we leave for whatever gathering we're at you know he's definitely more affectionate recently you

know he's saying i love you giving a kiss you know it interestingly to me it's an interesting i guess most things tie back to consciousness but but you know you have to give him grace you know and and i guess my advice to you or or my sort of reflection back at you is if you've observed a softening in him you know and you've observed this kind of desire to connect more i think you have to recognize what you're up against right and and for somebody who's 95 years old that's that's not getting up there that's that's got he's already got there you know what i mean that's that's really really no matter how you cut it he's he's coming to the end of this part of his experience and so you know if if you feel like sharing this news with him

is going to cause him any kind of pain or or exacerbate his suffering or complicate the end of his life, then as his son, even though you clearly had a complicated relationship with him, I'm sure that's not your motivation here. You don't want to make his life any harder. So maybe there's a way to just find an intimate moment with him and just say something to the effect of, dad, I know that we've never really seen eye to eye on certain aspects of who I am. And I understand that that doesn't mean you love me any less, but it just means that you weren't able to process the reality of who I am in the same way. But I just want you to know that I am really, really happy. If there's a way for you to communicate to him that this moment in

your life where you're telling him without telling him, if your mom is concerned that you tell him that you're getting married to your longtime partner and he's never met because he couldn't hold space for you to have that experience is going to make his suffering worse, then is there an opportunity for you to just tell him what you need him to know, which is that he raised a son who is capable of love and who is capable of navigating all of the challenges and all the obstacles that your father in his limited consciousness forced upon you, not intentionally and not because he wanted to, but because he didn't know any better. And now that he's coming to the end of his journey with compassion and forgiveness, I think there's a way for you to

let him know that you don't resent him for that and that he can move on from this experience, from his human experience, and know that you are happy and safe. And any father wants to know that for their child. Yeah. And I believe he does. That's very beautiful. That is very beautiful. And exactly. I completely agree. I think there is a way to say that and you know and and i think you're probably going to hear what you want to hear when his time is up and if you have the luxury of spending you know a last few days with him even if it's the last few hours with him hopefully he you know you'll have that opportunity and i guarantee you well i don't guarantee you but i would strongly suspect that during that time

you're going to have an opportunity to share this with him there is really no rush right like it's not an emergency you don't have to tell him right and you know in those moments or when you if there is a moment that happens before that great but if you know if it's not until then then that's a good opportunity to when you're saying goodbye to let him know how happy you are and how happy you are to live a fully realized actualized existence where you're not hiding you know and you're being who you are and there's not a person who doesn't want that for their child and that you've found a partner who loves you and treats you well and that you've made a life together and you've been together for 18 years so this isn't a lark i know i just i'm just so curious how you get how you get

engaged after 18 years like what what happens i just you know i've been thinking about it the last year or two just you know just felt it was time we took a trip we're in pittsburgh oh you are that's where i'm from yeah yeah i know amazing amazing well i i know my fair share about you know stubborn dougie and older pittsburgers so i i know what you're up against there and like i get it you know that's a tough nut to crack so so just like i just think compassion and forgiveness can be your guide and that you know you'll find a place with him of mutuality and love because that's that's the that's what's there you know eventually definitely yep yeah i i think it'll i'm hoping it would go better than what my mind is thinking it would go so yeah and i do agree

with chelsea there is no rush yeah just know that you're gonna you're gonna have the conversation with him at the appropriate time and surrender it just be like okay i've decided what i'm gonna do here now let me let it go and then when the opportunity arises take that opportunity yeah yeah i think the more i think about it it's more for me than it really is for him i think to know i mean he knows but he doesn't know the extent of it maybe it's hard in families when you have open secrets you know it's a difficult thing to navigate because it's such a oh it's such an unfortunate byproduct of trauma right like open secrets like that's the worst right so he knows but he doesn't know or he knows but he won't acknowledge it or something so yeah and and i

also recognize as a gay man myself i also recognize your position which is like i shouldn't have to hide i shouldn't have to sublimate my love to please this person but the reality is that you know he did the best he could and it wasn't good enough and i'm sorry that it wasn't good enough for you uh you you deserve better but it sounds like you found better it sounds like you've created better for yourself you've evolved beyond the limitations of what he provided for you or your family of origin provided for you. And so now you have the opportunity to, from that place of expansion, embrace his limited point of view and let him know that it doesn't diminish your appreciation for him, your love for him. And the person that you are today is informed at least

partially and certainly significantly by him. And so there is gratitude there. And how can you focus on that now that he's in the very you know the last chapter of his experience no i agree i agree so i will definitely be having this conversation and for the best and also framing everything in the right way like you know what you said is important this is more for me than for him so take that back and think about that because if it is more for you then hold on to it for a little bit okay and thanks for calling in thank you it's great to meet you have a good one thanks chris Bye. Bye.

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that you made. No, no. Oliver Sacks was a gay man who was celibate for 35 years of his life. And that was a real roadblock for me in terms of understanding the character. I couldn't fathom when I first was presented with that fact, how someone could make a choice like that, or why someone would make a choice like that. And then the more I dug into it, the more I realized that he recognized that if he came out in his day and age, and he lived and worked in the middle of the 20th century mostly the 70s 80s 90s and he died in 2015 at the age of 83 so you know had he come out he would have been defined by that aspect of who he was right he would have been diminished in his capacity to make the contributions to the field of neurology that

he was singularly designed to make and so he chose to separate himself to divorce himself from that part of who he was and to compartmentalize and split off from that part of his identity in order to be able to serve his patients and make the incredible and indelible mark on a medicine that he was able to make. Thankfully, late in his life, he came to terms with his sexuality and he came out and he was in a relationship for the last decade or so of his life with a very loving partner and um he found his way to that but you know my character on the show is gay uh it's the first openly gay lead of a primetime network medical drama in that way but it's a big deal because it's not a big deal right it's a big deal because we live in a world and i live in a world

as an openly gay actor where that aspect of my personality of my of my uh identity is only one of many aspects of the identity that i moved through the world with um and and i've i benefited from the sacrifices of people like oliver sacks who who didn't have that same opportunity so there is some really wonderful through line in that narrative right between the life that oliver sacks lived the life that the character i play oliver wolf lives and the the life that i live as an actor and as a person in this modern day. So I feel grateful for that. Was there ever a time in your career that you weren't out? Yeah. I mean, I didn't come out until 2011. I started working. I mean, Heroes was the show

that really changed my life, my career. People started to know me in 2006. So it was the end of 2006 that I became a known quantity, right? Like that I ever had to deal with the idea of what being famous was. And then it was five years later that I came out publicly. So there was a five-year period of time where I was out in my life and people who knew me knew I was gay, but I never spoke about publicly until 2011. And how did that feel? Well, that was one of the most liberating experiences that I've ever had. I made the decision to come out on my own. I didn't tell anybody. I didn't tell my publicist. I didn't tell my agents or my manager, anybody that I work with. I didn't tell anybody in my life, my boyfriend at the time, my family. I just gave an interview and I referred

to myself as a gay man twice within the interview so that I put a fine point on it in case they missed it the first time. And that to me was, I did it in my own time, on my own terms. I didn't seek advice or counsel or, you know, it wasn't a decision by committee. It was a decision that I made myself and so i was able to uh hold that decision for whatever it ended up you know whatever the the reaction to it was it was my decision you know and so that felt really liberating yeah i love that i love that well thank you for being with us today you guys everybody you can watch this wonderful human being on his show on peacock on the peacock network i think they wanted you to call it the peacock i don't know it's on nbc on monday nights at 10 p.m for people

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with all the different platforms and their name changes. It's very confusing. We can't keep up with it. It'll be something different tomorrow. And I hope I get to see you in person sometime soon, Zachary. I was just about to say

that very thing. It is always good to connect with you. You know, I really admire you, respect you and appreciate you and like you. and I hope we can have a meal and see each other outside of this context at some point. I'm in New York. I'm doing a play here this fall from the end of November until February.

If you're in New York, please come to see my play called Cult of Love at the Helen Hayes Theater on Broadway. And if you come, let me know, and we can go out after. Okay. I'm going to write that down right now, Cult of Love. Yeah, come see it. I'm really excited. I would love to.

Yeah, good. Okay, honey. It was such a pleasure to see you. I'll talk to you later. So good to see you both. Have a good day. You too. Thank you so much.

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