Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler - Ride or Die PONIES with Emilia Clarke

Episode Date: January 22, 2026

Emilia Clarke joins Chelsea to chat about learning Russian, her road to recovery after two brain hemorrhages, and how to pretend a tennis ball is a dragon. Then: An Argentinean’s messy habits ha...ve his boyfriend busy doing cleanup. A girlfriend is crazy about her new guy, but wants to maintain her single identity.  And a newly-sober caller is comedy-curious. * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at DearChelseaPodcast@gmail.com * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:29 of the hey jonas podcast we are at d23 so we'll see who stops by the cast of frozen stopped by Like Kristen Bell, Josh Gad, and Idina Menzel. I auditioned for Frozen. What? For Kristoff. They said, okay, what are you going to be singing today? I said, I don't know. That must have been why you didn't get it.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Oh, you probably won. Plus, John Stamos, Hayden Christensen from Star Wars, and more. And I guess I can share that, uh... No way. Listen to the latest episode of Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, guys, the High and Mighty Tour is about to begin. I'm coming to Washington, D.C., Norfolk, Virginia, Atlantic City,
Starting point is 00:02:04 which I just added, Madison, Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Detroit, Michigan, Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati, Ohio, Denver, Colorado, Portland, Maine, Providence, Rhode Island, Springfield, Massachusetts, Chicago, of course, Indianapolis, Indiana, Louisville, Kentucky, Albuquerque, Mesa, Arizona, Kansas City, Missouri, St. Louis, Missouri, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Nashville, Tennessee, Charlotte, North Carolina, Durham, North Carolina. May 6th, I'm doing Netflix is a Joke Festival. I will be in Los Angeles. That is a new announcement. Saratoga, California, Monterey, California, Modesto, California, and Port Chester, New York, Boston, Massachusetts, Portland, Oregon, and Seattle, Washington. I will be touring from February through June.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Go to ChelseaHandler.com for tickets. If you want to come see me perform, I will be on the high and mighty tour. Hi, Katherine. Hi, Chelsea. Hi, it's me, Chelsea Handjob, coming to you live from Whistler. It looks like it's finally snowy there. When was the last time you gave a handjob, Katherine? Have you given an adult handjob?
Starting point is 00:03:14 Actually, like three days ago. Oh, wow. Yeah, doesn't it all start with a handjob? It started with a handjob three days ago, Katherine, in a marriage? I mean, seriously? I am on doctor-requested pelvic rest after some female stuff. So it was like hand job or nothing. I mean, like, you know, it could progress, but.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Pelvic rest? What happened? Well, we'll get into it off the show. I think it should be on the podcast. Why would you want to talk about that offline? You know, my doctor, I'm just like endometriosis stuff. And my doctor's like, chill out for a second with the intercourse, which Brad is very not happy with. but okay let me just say something why when you have to be on pelvic rest are you delivering hand
Starting point is 00:03:58 jobs why isn't brad just going down on you that's actually a very good question yeah brad can you come back in the room please i don't understand this why is she being punished for being on pelvic breast that's her first punishment and now the second one is the hand job she's not being punished i offered you know did you yeah and she's like no i'd rather give you a hand i believe in reciprocity so you know we're okay okay he's very good i just want to make sure you're not offer i was like hey get over here give me my hand job we're good get over here i need my hand job okay what are we talking about i want to know chelsea have you seen michael rapaport on the traders and the clips that are going around about him i you know what i've actually you know let me
Starting point is 00:04:43 tell you something very interesting i got this phone service noble mobile right this is like the ethical phone my friend Andrew Yang started this company and they basically reward you for not being on your phone and since I got this service I am not on my phone like I used to be I was it said my average screen time the other day was 49 minutes and that's including texting and emailing I was I mean it was a Saturday so it wasn't a lot happening but like 49 minutes It used to be like four hours and 45 minutes. So your phone bill is like $50 a month. You have unlimited like international, all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:23 And then they give you money. Like last month I got a $6 credit for not being on my, so the less you're on your phone, the more money you get back. It's nice to have incentives like that. Yeah, of course, of course. Especially I want a phone company that doesn't want me on my phone.
Starting point is 00:05:37 That's nice. Well, let me tell you, Michael Rappaport is going viral because of how he eats. Oh, I can only imagine. Is it disgusting? It's bad, Chelsea. He picks up the whole plate and then he shoves the plate into his mouth and scoops. That is how he eats.
Starting point is 00:05:53 There are multiple shots of this from him on The Traitors. What is The Traitors? Oh, it's a reality show. It's the one with Alan Cumming and Monet Exchanges on it this time. But why is Michael Rappaport on it? He's a contestant on The Traitors. But is he eating like that on purpose? like to be funny i don't know i kind of wonder that too i'm like is it a bit yeah it's a bit
Starting point is 00:06:17 nobody puts their plate up and to their mouth i mean i've seen some fucked up eating i'm jewish so i and i came from a very jewish italian neighborhood and it was like people were chewing on their food was watching like a spin cycle go around my father being one of those people you were like excuse me get out of my five yard radius of me please it's disgusting yeah yes Well, we have a much more elegant guest today. Yeah, she's very elegant because she's British. She's someone you know from the Star Wars universe, the Terminator franchise, and Game of Thrones.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Emilia Clarke is here. We have her live in action in studio. Hi, you cutie patootie, fresh and fruity. So excited to talk to you. You too. You're somewhere beautiful and snowy. Oh my God, I'm in Whistler, Canada. This is where I live in the wintertime.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I have to keep my feet on the ground in skis at all times. Yes. Yes. I've seen you nude skiing down slopes and thought that looks fun. Thank you. Thank you for that shout out. I want to first say that the person we're speaking with today, her full name is Amelia Isabel Euphemia Rose Clark, MBA, which is a standing for member of the most excellent order of the British Empire. I mean, are you even allowed to be talking to me? It's quite a title. I know. That is so funny. My parents didn't know what to call me, so they called me everything. That's how that goes.
Starting point is 00:07:40 It's very euphonious, though. All of those names kind of like, I mean, if you can remember them all, they kind of roll off the tongue. They do. They do ultimately roll off the tongue. Yes. But it's a good, it's a good, like, test of the memory. I'll know if something's gone wrong by how, if I can remember how to say my full name.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. Where am I getting you from today? Where in the world are you, Amelia? I am in a hotel room in New York. Oh, okay. How's that going?
Starting point is 00:08:07 It's good. Today's day one. We'll see how it goes. Oh, good. Today's day one of your press tour. Yes. You're promoting before. We're going to first talk about the show you're here to promote, which is called Ponies.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Yes. I saw a bunch of episodes already. You did. I did. I did. You know, one of my other favorite people is Hayley Lou Richardson. So I love her. Yes, of course.
Starting point is 00:08:27 And Susanna Fogel, who directs this whole project, is another friend of mine. Oh, my God. okay then you love us this is fabulous this is a warm room absolutely absolutely you're welcome yes yes i'm a fan of all of the things so tell me about what it was like working with hayley lou because you guys are so good together i mean heaven she's literally my sister she's my itty bitty baby sister i love her with my whole heart i have never met another human being like her i never will as long as i live i want her in my life forever she's very unique yes i listened to her episode with you guys she's just the most beautiful pure spirit like she is such a pure
Starting point is 00:09:08 rare human who just is so full of love and like like if you paid her to be mean to someone she couldn't do it like it's just she's so lovable like she's so quirky and lovable and it's almost like she's an actress who's just like like what she did my podcast and then she was leaving she was moving to Arizona and I'm like why are you doing such a thing and she's like I don't know my family's there and you know I'll just come well this happened while we were filming she was like I'm moving to Arizona we like looked at the houses she found the house that she liked she like did the thing and was doing this huge move I'm so she's so impressive in so many ways she takes such big risks that to me sound like terrifying and to her she's like this just feels
Starting point is 00:09:53 like something I want to do right now. Like she follows her intuition. She follows how she feels. She's just remarkable and amazing. We're going to dedicate this podcast episode to Hayley Lu. There we go. Shout out to Hayley Lu. Yeah. And did you get her book, her book of poetry that she wrote? Of course I did. Okay, good. Yes, I did. She's so cute. Yes, yes, yes. I put that on my little Instagram. Nice Russian, by the way. Did you have to learn Russian for this role? I mean yeah this was massive this was like the biggest I I have never worked harder for any on any job ever ever and I never will again it was literally like half my lines are Russian I did not speak Russian I'm not a linguist I speak English and I pretend that I can speak French
Starting point is 00:10:38 and that's pretty much it you speak the Queen's English so that's actually yeah that's a feather in your pocket as well you speak the proper English okay double language double English so you did you have to learn Russian Russian is a I have a Russian sister-in-law so I'm familiar with the language and it's tricky it's so they're just the sounds are not like you don't hear Slavic sounds all the time in Europe like it's not it's not a sound that I'm hearing all the time so I just couldn't get my mouth around it for half of it and so I had this incredible dialect coach who was completely remarkable and he created this whole oh this whole thing there's like a memory palace there were stories there were like what does this Russian word sound like in English
Starting point is 00:11:24 and then there were images and I had to learn the images to learn the story to learn the words to learn the lines this was like a five-step process yeah that sounds like a real pain in the ass especially for you to say this is the hardest you've ever worked with all of the movies that you've done that's saying a lot because being a mother to dragons being in star wars all of the nonsense that you've gotten up to in these like sci-fi worlds pretending that you have two dragons as babies yeah that was oh that's right three what am i talking about you know what it's so funny i just came back from antarctica and i was we they have these icebergs right you go on these excursions and and the icebergs are so massive that you and you get on kayaks and you and you're
Starting point is 00:12:07 like kind of you know you're riding around and you're circling the icebergs and then they're so big that when you get closer they kind of undulate and they go up and down and I said I was like this is like one of those dragons from Game of Thrones I was like this is like a real life eating breathing thing that's alive and then I got a tennis ball so like you definitely you're looking at a tennis ball when we're looking at a dragon I'm looking at a tennis ball and I'm looking at three guys trying to not catch my eye holding the tennis ball at the end of a big ball yeah that is difficult that's some tough stuff that was that was tough okay so tell me like with the spectrum of all of this work that you're doing because this is this isn't
Starting point is 00:12:50 lighter fare but it's it's got comedy in it it's like yeah it's tongue-in-cheek and and it's chemistry and it's kind of like um it's a nice duo of women rather than men doing this show so I obviously really like that but with everything you do I do I'm I am interested in your process and how you break things down like how do you look at acting and how do you take on these roles whether it's something totally sci-fi or whether it's more rooted in this is a period piece that takes place in Russia a long time ago but like how do you approach all of that okay so it's definitely changed throughout the years I mean I started pretty much on Game of Thrones and I was pretty much straight out of drama school like a year out of drama school so I on Game of Thrones
Starting point is 00:13:34 used to hide between parked cars to prepare because I needed to prepare and I needed like space and time and like I'm having a panic attack and what am I doing and this is my first big job and the 80s I didn't understand that an 80s job was to like make sure they knew where you were and they that's their job I would be like why why do they want me why are people calling my name like this is just give me some give me a minute like it's and then I realized that they had to and I was not helping them by hiding and so I think that in the beginning it was very much like drama school training there's a right way to do this I'm a I'm goody two-shoes I want to do the right I don't want to upset anyone I want to do the right damn thing so that was it and I found
Starting point is 00:14:17 that if I so when you're in a set the people you have your stand-ins to do the lighting right and And I used to be like, but if I do my own standing stuff, then I get to have some alone time. Alone time. To prepare. And then you do other jobs and you're like, this isn't, I can't keep this up. This is just not, this is untenable. I can't keep this shtick up. First of all, it's a surprise to hear that there were cars on the set of Game of Thrones.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Okay, so that's a spoiler alert right there. I had no idea you guys were dealing with any sort of modern day machinery. sorry um yeah in between the dragons and then i don't know you get older and you it changes i think for me i like you know you're the sets of families you're there for a long amount of time it turns into this like how do i manage my energy how do i make sure that when the cameras are rolling and if this thing that's gonna last forever or as long as people want to watch it it that like I'm doing my job as best I can and that literally is yeah like an energy thing so I'll do a lot of preparation before the job and I'll do a lot of reading I'll reread the script
Starting point is 00:15:27 a bajillion times I'll like watch the stuff that's helpful I'll craft the character together I'll have my little notebook I'll have my sound my music and playlist stuff like all of those things so that when I turn up I've done it already and then I can like shoot the shit with everyone on set and feel good that I know what I'm what I what is what yeah once you're prepped enough then anything could come your way and you're like all right I got this you know if like you get a curve ball like it's yeah it's the same for comedy it's like as long as you're you've got your game together and your shit together if someone is heckling in the audience or someone's drunk or whatever if something a joke doesn't it doesn't matter because you're so well prepared you can
Starting point is 00:16:05 easily pivot exactly and like I feel for me I'm definitely an intuitive actor so I'm not I mean you would not I'm the furthest thing from a method actor you could possibly imagine like I'll be like and then she said and then action you know what I mean like it's it I don't need that so much but I do need to feel safe in the environment that I'm filming in so you want to like I'm friends with you know I want to I want to know the crew well I want to feel like we're all in this together and then I can embarrass because sometimes acting is embarrassing it is you know you're doing a sex scene and you're like hey Tim how are you you had a good day yeah let I'm just going to get back to it.
Starting point is 00:16:41 So I think that's kind of one of the ways that my process or like how I deal with acting has changed throughout the years. But it's also feeling like in the moment you're ready to pivot. Because it's one thing, like when I was a kid, you would, you know, you'd be in your hotel room. You'd be like, right, I'm going to stand here and I'm going to say it like this. And he's going to be there and I'm so prepared. And you're like so tense.
Starting point is 00:17:07 and that doesn't help because you get on set and everything's and you're acting with people sometimes the tennis ball but sometimes people and they're going to bring their own thing and they got a director who's going to have his own opinion so I like to go with I'd like to I like to feel as free as I can in the scene to be able to react to whatever I need to react to to be able to like take the right direction listen to the other person respond accordingly without having too much of my idea of how I think this should go yeah because I mean playing something like Daenerys Targaryen did I say that right no you said it's so right wow another mellifluous name that you have you have a lot of you have a lot of syllables in all of your characters names
Starting point is 00:17:48 I do yeah um but playing someone like that like that's a fucking bold like you have to come out and like you know you are commanding like a massive presence for that show yeah you're the lead like you you have to come out and and and do something that's so not rooted in reality and like that's a huge swing so watching the presence that you had during that show never I mean we'll obviously we're gonna cover all your performances but I just want to say as a viewer you're like whoa because you have to be a powerhouse to to pull that off and make it convincing because that would be for me if someone said you're gonna play a mother to dragons I'd be like please don't make me do that like I don't have anything but that I don't have the skill set to pull that off
Starting point is 00:18:30 well I didn't so it's an undertaking I mean I didn't and like you know from the beginning of the show I grew with it she was really like nervous and scared and didn't know anything and like as the things as the seasons went on she got more and more and more do you know by the end she's a badass motherfucker but in the beginning she wasn't at all so I think I kind of grew with her and it's weird the camera turns on and like something else happens like you you just like you can this is gonna sound like a really weird example but you can tell whenever so I had to do a lot of riding horses on Game of Thrones in the beginning I suck at it I fell off why did they just let you ride a tennis ball why do you have the horses wheel exactly I mean there was
Starting point is 00:19:17 one time where it was going so badly they put me on the camera dolly and pretended just put a load of x's around it and I was like yeah I'm riding a horse I'm not riding a horse I'm riding Barry's camera trolley and as soon as you get on a horse the horse feels everything that you're feeling right so if you're shit scared the horse is like get off I stop it this and I'm gonna go crazy and there were times when I was like I'm calm everything's calm the horse is calm everything's good they yell action and you can feel because the horse is like what there's a tension do you know what i mean something changes yeah so i feel definitely put me on camera have someone say action and i can access something else that is i guess it's called i guess that's what being an
Starting point is 00:20:04 actor is being an actor like i heard leo dicaprio talking the other day they're like do you do all your scenes high when you're high do you smoke the gun when you're playing a stoner in battle one battle after another are you smoking and he goes no I'm acting that's what I'm like why not he goes because I'm acting and I was like good answer that's you don't have to drink in a scene where you're drinking if you're actually an actor exactly exactly yes so yeah I suppose it's the yeah and then you do it so long it's your job and it just it just I don't know I'm kind of hardwired so when you were riding the horses was that were you riding the horses when you were supposed to be riding the dragons no I was riding the horses when I was riding the horses but I sucked at
Starting point is 00:20:45 riding the horses like thank god they put me on a dragon and so when you were riding the dragon what were you riding an actual I was riding a this was fun I was riding a big green kind of imagine like a ninja turtle shell but like very very big on this huge hydraulic system and it all had like moving parts on like really really really big scaffolding in like a huge aircraft hangar all the way up the top and um they have it on a on a like program which makes sense like you know it took a day to film two minutes worth of me on a dragon basically really and so i would be up there and you'd have to look like you were driving the dragon it's not driving the dragon riding the dragon you know you would tell me
Starting point is 00:21:30 no i think you're right i think it's called driving the dragon sometimes it's called chasing the dragon sometimes sometimes and so I'm there and you have to predict what the pre-programmed thing is going to be and then half on one of the shoots to get breaking down and they'd be giving me my notes and I'd be like yeah carry on I'm just gonna let this like ride out it just it was it was super intense but sometimes very fun and I know you were talking publicly this is something that if you're okay to talk about I would love to I know you talk publicly about being having some two brain aneurysms while you were filming Game of Thrones how yes how are you doing how was that recovery can you talk about that I mean so the recovery was
Starting point is 00:22:13 non-existent because I didn't have time um so I shot season one of Game of Thrones first like you know fame or whatever a job money doing the thing that I loved and then we finished we wrapped that Christmas and in February of the next year I had my first brain hemorrhage I was in the gym it was obviously a massive shock rushed to hospital they saved my life I then was in hospital for three weeks and they couldn't tell HBO for two weeks until they knew I wasn't gonna die that this had happened and I got to the hospital and in my lucid moments was like trying to pull out the wires to be like I gotta get to work what are you doing yeah I can't and so they saved my life incredible the incredible nhs and then i had like six weeks maybe
Starting point is 00:23:05 and then i was on the press tour for my first ever press tour with morphine oh my god yeah it was super it was super super intense but having game of thrones and having the job was the thing that got me through and then the second time it happened that just sucked that was just super annoying because I spoke to David and Dan they were like again like how did that and the second one was a procedure that went wrong and so that resulted in a much bigger bleed and they had to then do like I had this big scar they had to like crack my head open oh and that's god I mean how does one get a brain aneurysm this is just the luck of the draw um yeah so how do you get a brain hemorrhage I was born with a weakness in my arteries that's hereditary that like if I would
Starting point is 00:23:56 have a baby I'd be like get that baby in an MRI machine immediately so I can see if yeah and do you have an avenue for preventative like like this is something like that you can help do certain things to prevent I mean don't take drugs don't do stuff that's going to raise your blood pressure but essentially don't work too hard i know right which is the same thing honestly there's nothing there's there's like i'm in a very good spot i get my brain scanned every year i i'm in the like 0.001 percent of people who survive what i've had without any real repercussions oh i'm so glad to hear that i'm so glad to hear that when you were talking about that publicly a couple years ago i was like wait what i'm like oh my god i'm working through that my i mean honestly actors put up with
Starting point is 00:24:41 more shit than anybody else like actors work through sickness and I mean I know for my I'm not an actor I'm a comedian but I worked through every we we act like we're saving lives like I work through any sort of sickness anything I know it was such a shock because it was the first time I'd ever ever ever had anyone on any set be like you're not well do you need to come in like you don't have to work today yeah brain hemorrhages broken ribs broken hips I did a whole job without realizing I'd broken my hip. The show must go on. Yeah, apparently the show must go on. So what is an ideal day off like for you? Like if you had your druthers and you have nothing to do and nothing scheduled, what would it look like? Okay, so it would look like seeing friends. It would look
Starting point is 00:25:25 like going for a very lovely dinner. It would look like get the papers, read my books, go for walks, go out. Are you a big book reader? I'm a massive reader. What's the last book that you've read that you loved? That I loved. I went, I did the whole of the Booker Prize list. I'm a nerd. And my favorite one on that was this book called Sea Scrapper by Benjamin Wood. It's only itty-bitty. It's tiny and it's incredible. Oh, thank you. We like recommendation, book recommendations for our audience. They're readers. Now, I like that you have a life hack. You talk about flipping nervousness into confidence. I feel like this is something I can relate to. So can you speak a little bit about that because it's not being fearless it's facing it's face it's facing fear
Starting point is 00:26:12 right yeah exactly it's kind of realizing that that same energy that you're experiencing is excitement in disguise so like you know those nerves I'm sure you don't you're too good to get nerves before going on stage to get nerves before like doing your work but I definitely still get them or even just like I don't know you're going to a dinner and you know one person and you're like fuck this is I'm out of my comfort zone it's the same like energy frequency as excitement you've just got adrenaline you've just got like excess adrenaline which is all that is is your body telling you that you're ready and prepared for anything and that you care kind of and that you care yeah yeah although sometimes me thinking that I care can turn into like that that ends up being
Starting point is 00:26:59 the thing of like caring too much oh yeah i know well i had my my therapist put it to me one way he's like you know if you're nervous that means you care and i was like oh i had never thought about that i was always in my younger years was always trying to fast forward the like if i had the fear it was like no no i'm okay like um you know to just try and kind of put a shield around it and be like i'm just gonna power through this instead of i think it's really important now as I'm older to acknowledge the fear and embrace it because it just it means you care and it's not fear like nervousness isn't fear it's excitement it doesn't mean like you're gonna fail it means you're excited to get out there and that you care about what you're about to do yeah absolutely
Starting point is 00:27:39 absolutely no I think it's yeah how do you channel your energy how do some of us someone once said how do you get your butterflies flying in formation yeah what do you remember the most nervous you've ever been it's always before i sing i remember i did it i sung at carnegie hall for richard flatplay's leaving do of hbo and he asked me to sing a song and i was like what to like carnegie hall oh it's not like all these oh yeah people you guys you better deliver you're famous people what the fuck but anytime i have to sing like i did this movie that's gonna come out maybe at some point this year and i was a singer in that and any time i have to sing publicly it's fear like i'm gonna throw up like i'm gonna like i'm i'm in the wings being like
Starting point is 00:28:32 i'm just gonna go i'm just gonna i'm just gonna i'm gonna leave yeah yeah and you'll and it'll be fine because you'll have missed this terrible car crash that's about to happen i like that i like that it's good to know it's good to know I mean I could imagine yeah you whatever your main gig is you're like okay I'm good with this but any side hustle you're like hold on a second I don't know hold on I haven't got my 10,000 hours you're not so uh secretive about uh other actors that you're obsessed with like who is your who are you crushing on now man woman actor like who are you into right now who am I into um Hayley Lou motherfucking Richardson yeah totally who do I love right now i mean jesse buckley forever she's my number one oh yeah my number one that movie
Starting point is 00:29:15 that was one of my favorite books too did you read hamnet i did yes yeah that was a beautiful beautiful book and she's so fun to watch win you know yes and then also i do have to say the joy of seeing gwyneth paltrow again oh yeah heaven i'm like gwynny's back i know i know and You know what's so funny? I was like, Gwyneth, you know what? You have been talking about vaginas. You have been selling us vagina goodies. You have been interviewing people about sex.
Starting point is 00:29:46 It's about time we got to see you have sex. We need to see you having more sex, in my opinion. She needs to keep her clothes off on camera for the benefit of the rest of us because she took a big break and now she's back and she needs to fully just release. Yes. And we don't see her have sex with younger men in 50s closets. On camera for all of us. Please.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Message received. Okay, so we're going to take a break, and we're going to be right back with Amelia Clark. The new Red Bull Dragonberry and Tropic Berry Energizers, now at McDonald's. Made with freeze-dried fruit and an electric burst of flavor. The all-new Red Bull Energizers, now at McDonald's. This product may not be right for you.
Starting point is 00:30:33 High in caffeine. Details at mcdonalds.ca and participating Canadian restaurants, excluding Quebec. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and held captive for nine months. I survived, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are The Survivor Files. I just remember this low, taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable.
Starting point is 00:31:06 I knew if he woke up, without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed, and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. They're stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is Prose Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. From bestselling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table. It's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters, then that is a Trojan horse. Whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations,
Starting point is 00:32:24 or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to Pro Society on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week, we talk to someone in show business, a.k.a. the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on its head, right? How about we flip the script, okay?
Starting point is 00:33:09 What if the surprise woman, who actually you think is the straight man, is actually the one who's acting weird? Adam Scott. This entire time, you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never expect. Let go of that. I have. I would never set expectations for something like that to happen. If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I am open to it.
Starting point is 00:33:36 I'm always going to accept. You know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah. It's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you. mm-hmm i was like is that weed nope it's fragile masculinity yeah ben stiller no because a lot of times in out of context people don't get it or even know what a circle is you know what i mean like they're like oh what's the state everyone's so dumb and fake right fake and and also not
Starting point is 00:34:06 interested or just like oh i've got my life i don't care about your life and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us oh and by the way will ferrell told us Personally, he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We're back with Emilia Clarke. Okay, so now we're going to segue into the part of the show where we take some callers. They call in for life advice and then we just give it to them straight. Okay, amazing.
Starting point is 00:34:37 All right, our first question comes from Eduardo. The subject line is, Chelsea, please tell me why my boyfriend's mattress has no sheets. Dear Chelsea, I'm writing because I think I'm starting to lose my patience and maybe myself in my relationship. I've been dating someone for a little over a year. We don't live together, but whenever I go stay at his place, it somehow turns into a cleaning weekend. I end up washing his dishes, throwing away leftovers he's forgotten in the fridge, kitchen, or table, tidying his bed, and trying to make the place feel halfway livable. Meanwhile, he just doesn't seem to care. It's not like I'm obsessed with cleaning. I'm really not. But for example,
Starting point is 00:35:14 when he buys vegetables, he just puts them in the fridge with actual dirt still on them. He buys too much food, it goes bad, and he doesn't even bother to throw it out. It's like living in a low-budget science experiment. We've already talked about this more than once, but nothing changes. It's reached the point where every time he invites me over on my day off, I feel this mix of discomfort and low-key anger, like I'm going to visit my boyfriend, but I'll be doing chores. I've even caught myself telling him the kitchen must be clean or I won't cook, like I'm his mother, and that makes me feel kind of awful. Last week, I noticed his sheets were really dirty, so I took them off and put them in the washer before I left.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Six days later, when I came back to spend my weekend off with him, the mattress was still bare. He had been sleeping on a blanket I'd left on the bed, just waiting for the sheets to dry for six days. As soon as I saw the bed, I felt tired already and honestly just wanted to go back home. The real problem is that when I try to talk about how I feel about the mess, he tends to dismiss it or make a joke. I want to be with someone I can grow with, not someone I have to parent. So Chelsea, what do you think? Am I overreacting or is this the universe's way of telling me it's time to clean up more than just his kitchen? With love and a pair of dish gloves from Buenos Aires, Eduardo. Okay, Eduardo, let's wrap on this. First of all, there is nothing
Starting point is 00:36:32 There's nothing grosser than when men do not know how to be hygienic in their own place. I had a girlfriend that was dealing with this. She was, my girlfriend was dealing with a guy. She had a long distance relationship and she went to his house. It was the same situation. She said she was so grossed out by the way he lived and how unkempt he was, like how he would, you know, like the kitchen and the sheets. It's a real sign of someone's personality when they can't figure out how to adult and
Starting point is 00:36:57 grow up. You know what I mean? like it's a real sign of like, and then bringing it to their attention. That should be one and done conversation. Like if they're interested in maintaining this relationship and that's important to you, the hygiene of their house where you're spending time, not taking sheets out of a dryer or a washer for six days is disgusting. As an adult is disgusting. So like, it's not going to change. If you're, you have to decide if this is a deal breaker, it would be for me. It would totally be a deal breaker for me. I mean, I've never been with someone gross like that, but I
Starting point is 00:37:30 mean, men are, men can be gross, but this is a gay man. It sounds like, so I don't know what his problem is. I was shocked to see Eduardo at the end of this. I'm like, you would expect this from a straight man, but not a gay man. You would expect this from like a hetero man, not a gay man. So, but there's exceptions to all rules, but I mean, I don't know, Amelia, what do you think? Would you be down to party with someone? Are you fucking kidding? No, absolutely categorically not. Put the damn sheets on the bed. If you don't know how to take care of yourself, how on earth are you going to take care of me?
Starting point is 00:37:59 Like, uh-uh. Right. There you go. There we go. Period. End of story. But also... Clean.
Starting point is 00:38:05 It's gross. Also, buying vegetables and then not rinsing them off in the sink. Like, even I know about that. Like, that is so ridiculous. All of it is just kind of an ick. Yeah. No, but also it just speaks to, like, a bigger thing of this man clearly doesn't think much of himself and isn't, like...
Starting point is 00:38:22 Right. He doesn't sound like he knows what's up with him. So how would, how on earth could you trust your happiness and yourself and your romance? What, like, you're like, having sexual relations on a mattress? There's no shit. Yeah, yeah, exactly. All of it is just making me really deeply uncomfortable. This gorgeous man needs to get out of this, like, yesterday.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Also, you should only have to have one conversation about a serious topic in your relationship. In my humble opinion, you should have one serious conversation about something that's important to you. And if that person isn't receptive and makes changes knowing how important it is to you, then it's a moot point. There's no point to discuss it over and over ad infinitum. And that's the end of that story. What's next, Catherine? Okay. Well, our first caller today is Jared.
Starting point is 00:39:09 And Jared says, 10 years ago, I moved my queer black ass from the East Coast to San Diego to get sober. Then two years ago, I moved to LA to be in a more creative and cosmopolitan scene. I had a remote job, but that ended a little over a year ago. I spent the last year taking every possible action to earn an income, but I cannot get hired to save my life. It's almost comical at this point. I got snubbed for a job bagging groceries at Trader Joe's. My car is busted and not eligible to drive Uber.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I'm 100% pro-sex work, but I don't think my 43-year-old stock would command a livable wage. My retirement is gone. that old bourbon and cocaine habit wasn't exactly 401k friendly, and there's no secret family money, and I'm in a program to help me earn effectively. Throughout all this, losing the job, losing my dog, the space away from boring desk jobs, I've seen my little creative queen come out of her shell. I can't believe all the talent and joy I suppressed for so many years, especially writing and performing. I'm afraid to say it, Chelsea, but I want to learn to be a comedy writer and
Starting point is 00:40:08 maybe do stand-up. I know I can't just start doing open mics and expect to pay rent, and even though I'm still applying to big boy office jobs, I don't want to stifle my creativity again. Now here I am, mid-40s, broke, embarrassed that I want to start over as a comedian while my peers are buying vacation homes, living off alimony, and sending kids to college. So Chelsea, how do I balance getting out of financial and emotional survival mode while also trying to enter a new industry? I didn't move to LA to be in quote unquote Hollywood, yuck, but I did move to be more of myself. I've always been told I have a special talent and energy and that I should get hired just to be myself. I just don't know what to do in order to get the ball rolling and not
Starting point is 00:40:47 end up evicted or in another soulless job in the process. Am I too old to start over, Chelsea? What do I need to do to be strong and confident, to make a living spreading light and making others feel better? Sincerely, Jared. Hi, Jared. Hey, Chelsea. Hi. Hi, Jared. This is our special guest. Amelia Clark is here today. Hi. Hey, Amelia. Great to see you all. Oh, great to see you. Well, I mean, first of all, a couple of things like this is happy that you are your letter says a lot of things. It says like you're in a transitional period in your life. You're also like you're broke and you're out of work. But while that could be your like the lowest point for many people, you're also discovering that you have some other like creative outlets that you want to explore.
Starting point is 00:41:31 And I think that's a great thing. I think you need to focus on getting a job. We need to get you a job so you have money coming in so you can pay your rent. And then comedy is at nighttime. so don't they don't have to preclude each other like you can't you can do both of those things you know what i mean you need to be financially stable that's the most that's the main priority i think for you right now so we need to get you a job and then once you're like situated in that then you could spend your time going to open mics and exploring all of the stand-up you know
Starting point is 00:41:57 stand-up's not going anywhere so and i wouldn't worry about what age you are like people rediscover themselves throughout their entire lives there's no age don't you agree amelia there's no expiration date of when you can become something or start anew. I think the most important thing is to recognize that you do have that desire and okay, now you're going to make a plan forward. Like the job it's for sustainability and like your support. It's not to give you everything in life because you're going to go look for that with comedy and other places. So I think that makes it easier probably to kind of look for more, a broader spectrum of jobs than maybe you were looking for initially. That's awesome. Yeah. Keeping an open mind for sure. Comedy's at night. That's a
Starting point is 00:42:40 great reminder. Although nighttime is hard for me. Yeah. Nobody's doing comedy in the morning. So don't worry about that. You're not missing out during the day. Perfect. Yeah. Jared, I know when I was in a similar situation, like before I got into podcasting, I was sort of like, okay, I'm going for these marketing gigs. It's like, quote unquote, what I know how to do, even though I was already like doing podcasting on the side. And finally, I was just like, fuck it, I'm going to go after the jobs that are like actually in the field I want to be in rather than sort of selling myself short going for these other things. And like, it might be an entry level thing. But at the same time, like, I would set yourself up for success and start moving toward even if it's like
Starting point is 00:43:19 super, super entry level or something really part time, like just see what's out there in in where you want to be. Yeah, I've been doing assistant work and actually sober coach companion work, which is really fulfilling. And I think I'm good at it. It's kind of sporadic, but absolutely you're right. Getting stable. I also feel like this is like the exact territory I need to be in to create some great actual real comedy. Like it's funny. Yeah. And also sober coaching is also funny and the things that you have to do and like, and that's actually great. Like that's a nice, like little panoply of things you have. Like you need a job, you can do sober coaching. Does that pay sober coaching or is that just kind of like voluntary oh it does really well yeah oh great
Starting point is 00:44:03 oh there you go everybody answered your own problem Amelia was there anything that you did when you were like working in catering or whatever else to sort of make sure that you were working on your craft all of the time or not letting sort of that creative spark die yeah I mean I think first of all Jared congratulations on the incredible work you've done on yourself that is more than a lot of people thank you that should be like remarkable absolutely brilliant and amazing that you know very clearly the kind of creative work that you want to do but I think just because you know that you want to do comedy doesn't mean that you can't do all the other creative things as well in any ways that they might move you because that's just gonna I know that when I was doing
Starting point is 00:44:49 nine jobs and then like post drama school pre-drama school or whatever and you're like the goal is this thing and then everything else around it just kind of sucks in comparison because I'm just trying to pay my rent and I think that so then if whatever other creative avenues you can explore for fun without any pressure without any like this is what I have to do with the rest of my life this is you know whether you're like something arty or something musical or something you know in the kitchen or whatever is to make sure that your soul is still being fulfilled because I know that when I worked at a call center and a bar I got depressed I got sad I got really really sad like where you're like I'm doing the job thing but I get to do none of the other stuff
Starting point is 00:45:38 I'm not missing out because I'm not getting paid to do this other stuff that I've decided that's what my career is going to be then everything else sort of pales into comparison so I think whatever are the ways you can do to make sure that your joy bucket is still being you know full yeah and don't think of anything as like as permanent you know what I mean you kind of have to like we always get this idea of like the final like we don't think like I remember when I waited tables for like 10 years or seven years it felt like 10 but I like I just wanted my life to begin like that I was like this isn't my life meanwhile that was my life like that was my life during that time, but I didn't think my life began until I started to have some
Starting point is 00:46:19 success. And I kind of like, I didn't miss those moments, but I miss knowing that this wasn't forever either. Like I was so impatient about getting where I wanted to go that it's really important to remember the ride is as important as the destination, like what you do to get there and knowing that you're not going to be doing anything forever permanently, you know what I mean or a situation you're in is never going to be permanent so to know like you're working towards something and while you're working towards that to enjoy all of the things that go with it awesome yeah and then also what does success in comedy look like because you know that fame isn't real right it it isn't understanding okay on a daily basis what would success feel like being in doing
Starting point is 00:47:05 the thing that you love to do without having the like in order to yeah you know be because it's just it's not it's not you know always the nicest experience and exactly as Chelsea was saying the bits on the way there that's the fun that's the good time that's the like Chelsea do you agree with me or no yeah well I know you you actually have a great quote about that Amelia where you talk about like getting what you need out of the work right and you know your reviews don't matter it's actually like what you what are you getting out of what are you doing because we always there's like yeah we have this kind of success system which means we're noticed we're famous we're successful and that's not the measure of success that's kind of it's illusory and it's not real
Starting point is 00:47:54 like Amelia saying even though it looks you know from the outside it can look like that's what you want to attain, but it's really much more full bodied than that. Yeah. Connecting with people, making them laugh, sharing joy, humor, you know, making sure you're like, yeah. And you seem like you have a very high spirit, like you're on a nice high frequency. So like make sure you're bringing that, you know, with everything you do. And then it kind of all blends together. I know my life blends together, my professional, my private, all of it's kind of like all washed together because that's the kind of vibe I want to have is like, yeah, I'm not, you know, I don't take it too seriously. I'm not precious about my work. I'm like just truthful and honest. And I
Starting point is 00:48:36 know that's my kind of thing. Like I'm going to say it like it is. And that's what people like about me. And I like that about myself. So it's like just being very authentic to who you are in the process, I think is, and Amelia, that's something that, you know, I can recognize in you too, you know, like what you're bringing to all of these different roles. And especially even in this last show she's she's on here to promote a new show called ponies which is on peacock it's just like i can see the humanity in you and everything that you do and i would say that that is something to aim for as a creative to be as authentic as you can in every endeavor and that includes the shit you don't like to do also yeah that's great you can be really authentic then
Starting point is 00:49:15 yeah okay well good luck to you i'm so happy thank you so much really appreciate you awesome Thanks, Jared. Bye, Jared. Thanks. It's so true what you said about fame, Amelia, because, you know, like, as a famous person, I know that that's not real, but you, people that are aspiring to be in this industry, that's what they think, then that is the success. Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:39 And it's like, the thing I always say is it's vapor. It doesn't exist. You can't hold on to it. You can't define it. You can't, like, because whatever fame brings you on Monday, it's going to take away on Tuesday. you don't you know what I mean like you're you're the flavor of the month for a second and then you're not or then like you know you don't do a bunch of stuff and people don't recognize you
Starting point is 00:49:58 much and then you do and then you're suddenly back in it and you're all it just all it goes to show is like it just doesn't it's not real it's not like yeah these when like young people come up to me and you know they want to be an actor or whatever I'm my first thing is always can you think of anything else that you can do rather be disappointed do that because if there's anything else you can do it has to be the only thing you can do to commit to like levels of failure the level of like the rejection the rejection and the failure and the rejection even when you're successful you're like wait what yeah you're like how did that happen exactly like it's the same thing but the goalposts just keep moving they move with you what was it like for
Starting point is 00:50:41 you when you realized that game of thrones when it hit the way it hit and you realized how famous all of you guys had become what how did that was that a mind fuck at all for you or how did you handle that yeah so i had a i had a slow build into it because i was not blonde so i was unrecognizable for the first like three three foot like for the first like three to four seasons i'd be walking down the street with kit and people would be like can you take our photo as in can i take the picture of them with kit I'm like yeah absolutely I can you do it and then stuff something flipped and I think I became recognizable for the hair color that I had or whatever it was anyway so then as that started to progress I used to just get panic attacks like it really
Starting point is 00:51:26 it like sucker punched me in a way that I like people I like talking to people I like meeting people and fame stops that from happening so I'm bummed hard I was like that's that's really annoying that's really frustrating that like sometimes I don't know if you find it I'm a walking conversation stopper you go up to a table of people you know most of them but not all of them and they see you and you're like whether or not they know me like me seen the work whatever it doesn't seem to matter it's you're enough of like an oddity for everyone to be like ah well this changes things and you're like okay i'll just don't worry carry on i'll do you want to drink i'll stay at the bar you know what i mean it can kind of like i like that what you're
Starting point is 00:52:13 saying that's it's yeah we don't talk about that a lot on this podcast we don't talk about the actual act of being famous and what that is because it's so rare i guess and it's probably not that relatable to so many listeners because they're like sorry yeah no but it's insightful i think it's insightful for people to know because people do i'm very regular and like you know people come up to me like they know me and and you know they kind of do it because I'm not acting I'm just kind of my own personality but like the awkwardness like the things that people say are always like when people go my favorite thing is where do I know you from as if we're gonna sit there and list all of our credits I'm like well it could be from this or I'm just or they go I know you
Starting point is 00:52:51 who are you I'm like yeah no that's not how this is gonna go this conversation yeah this is making me feel super awkward yeah I know you're famous let me take a picture and I'm like wait wait no you don't just get a picture because I'm famous you don't even know who I am but yeah it's it's kind of I like to make it the least amount of awkward as I possibly can for people but people can be incredibly awkward around famous people yes but I suppose the reason for me to say it is that like we still as a culture still coveting fame coveting success coveting money covering all these like how everything looks and I know this is enough people have been speaking about this for enough time but still the truth of it is not the aspirational thing
Starting point is 00:53:40 yeah you know what I mean like it's not what you think it's going to be before you get it sort of thing no yeah yeah there's like others there's loads of other things that are more fun and more important yeah absolutely okay we're gonna take a break and we'll be right back and we're gonna wrap it up with our last caller the new red bull dragonberry and tropic berry energizers now at mcdonald's made with freeze-dried fruit and an electric burst of flavor the all-new red bull energizers now at mcdonald's this product may not be right for you high in caffeine details mcdonald's.ca and participating canadian restaurants excluding quebec when i was 14 years old i was kidnapped and held captive for nine months i survived and i've spent my life exploring how
Starting point is 00:54:26 other people survive what should have destroyed them i'm elizabeth smart and these are the survivor files i just remember this low taunting voice next to my ear saying shut up don't say anything every week i'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable i knew if he woke up Without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed, and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. They're stories about what it takes to make it out alive.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is Prose Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. From bestselling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table. It's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters, then that is a Trojan horse.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations, or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to Pro Society on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week, we talk to someone in show business, a.k.a. the biz,
Starting point is 00:56:31 and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman. Not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? how about we flip it on its head how about we flip the script
Starting point is 00:56:49 what if the surprise woman who actually you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird Adam Scott this entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show
Starting point is 00:57:05 I would never expect I would never set expectations for something like that to happen if the universe allows for something like that to happen i am open to it i'm always going to accept you know danny mcbride fine yeah it's all this fragile masculinity exuding i could smell it walking down the hallway to be honest with you i was like is that weed nope it's fragile masculinity ben stiller no because a lot of times in out of context people
Starting point is 00:57:36 don't get it or even know what a circle is you know what i mean like you're like oh what's this So everyone's so dumb and fake, right? Fake and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life. I don't care about your life. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:58:03 Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. and we're back with the very delightful amelia clark what do we have to close out our show our therapy session today katherine okay well julia writes dear chelsea from the ages of 25 to 30 i was in a really tumultuous on off relationship who was it honey 25 to 30 is for tumult that's an extreme understatement but he's not the reason i'm writing in when i finally got out of that for good, I settled into being independent and single like a fish in water. I did things for myself, went to therapy, made changes in my life, all for the better, and I did it all on my own. I was totally fulfilled for four years. A little over a year ago, my job went away thanks to a
Starting point is 00:58:48 Republican takeover in my state. I moved across the country so I could keep working in my field and honestly for a fresh start in other ways too. I've settled into my new life. It's definitely been harder without a big network of friends, but I like my job, I make more money, and I have made friends with a lot of my neighbors. We have a really nice little pod of people helping each other out with dogs, kids, yard work. We have group dinners, all very wholesome and lovely. One of those friends is my next door neighbor. We spent almost every night hanging out together, just chatting in the backyard. Eventually he told me he liked me and I told him I liked him too. At first I felt mad at him for ruining our backyard vibes, but when I stopped being thrown
Starting point is 00:59:24 off balance, we started dating. It's been five months and since we're on two sides of a duplex with a door in the middle, it's very much like a live-in relationship. All these things that I thought were dead and buried for me, my sex drive, being cuddly, cooking and watching TV with another person, are all back with a vengeance. All of a sudden, I find myself thinking about him all the time, buying groceries that will make him happy, actually wanting to give him head, even doing his laundry. All my friends and family are thrilled that I'm in a couple and thriving. A lot of people had already met him as my neighbor slash bestie, so they're very happy with the turn of events. We also have a year's worth of friendship under our belt,
Starting point is 00:59:58 so it really feels like we've got a big head start on the whole intimacy thing. But I can't help but feel like I'm losing something it took me a long time to build, my self-sufficiency and independence. It's something that I've guarded fiercely for the past five years, and I feel like it's slipping away
Starting point is 01:00:12 in less time than it takes me to commit to buying a new lawn chair. He's nothing like the horrible ex, but I don't want to lose myself in a relationship ever again. Should I just accept that this is going well and making me happy, or should I be freaking out and letting my walls down?
Starting point is 01:00:25 Why are you looking for problems where there are none? Your relationship that you had with that other guy is over. You're not repeating that same cycle. You've already learned from your mistakes. I can tell by your letter. You're in a good place. This is what we do as women. We question any sort of happiness that just lands at our feet and go,
Starting point is 01:00:42 do I deserve this? When's the other shoe going to drop? Am I going to lose myself? No, you're not, honey. You're fine. You're good. You have a good thing going. You have a guy that lives across the fucking hall from you.
Starting point is 01:00:53 This is the best possible case scenario. Just don't move in together and just keep the fucking good vibes flowing. I love that. Yeah. I mean, you are having a good time. Enjoy yourself. Guess what? You deserve it.
Starting point is 01:01:05 You deserve happiness and you deserve to be in something and a healthy relationship. And that's what you get after being in bad relationships. We get gifted with like the gift of wisdom. And then we start having good, healthy relationships. I just started a new relationship, too. I'm totally into it. I'm not questioning a thing about it. And I'm like, this guy just dropped in my lap
Starting point is 01:01:23 and it's totally unexpected on every level. And I'm like, good for me. Good for me. I deserve it. Love that. Thank you. Yeah. Right, Amelia?
Starting point is 01:01:34 Doesn't she deserve it? You absolutely deserve it. A hundred percent you deserve it. So do you, Chelsea. Thank you. Muzzle tough all around. All parties involved. We all deserve it.
Starting point is 01:01:45 We all deserve it. You should get up. You know what's a good practice? I get up and even when I'm, if I'm in a great space, I still do it. I get up and I just write down, I have this little journal in my phone. It's like a gratitude journal. And I just get up and say, thank you for this. Thank you for this. I'm grateful for these seven things. It can be your dog. It can be your health. It can be whatever
Starting point is 01:02:04 you're that you're going to be on this podcast today or whatever it is. Just remind yourself that things are going well and then that's good. And then that becomes a pattern. Even when things are shitty, if you can find five or six things to be grateful for every morning, you're kind of reminding yourself that you're on the right track so just trust like that you know the universe has your back just trust that because it's yeah it's true no one's out to get you yeah the only other thing I'd say to add to it is that if only to just calm your brain to continue to do one or two of the things that you did as a single woman for you that doesn't include this beautiful man who's entered your life right so that you're in a lovely relationship but you're also able to still
Starting point is 01:02:49 go to the movies on your own go do your shopping on your own take a day just for yourself be like hey babe I know I'm I know you know I'm right next door we could hang out but actually I just want to have a couple of hours to read on my own or whatever it is that you do and did love about being single because I think that it can be as someone who's been single a bunch in my life I think that it can be very hard to give it up because it feels so like I got myself together like this is yeah this is my space my time my I get to decide all of these wonderful things and so yeah when then the when the guy does come then you're like whoa hang on this is you're messing with my ecosystem but I completely agree with Chelsea that like enjoy if you're having a
Starting point is 01:03:38 good time and if you keep waking up every morning wanting to see him and wanting to have a good time and give him hair delightful then you know crack on have a lovely time but then give yourself the hours or the days or the half a minute or whatever it is in your week that is just doing something for you and then that'll just calm whatever worries you might have about like losing any sense of self-sufficiency that you have and to add to that don't forget about your girlfriends too so like whether that's like a standing date once a week or whatever with your girlfriends or like mates before dates yes yes right well he's also my mate but double whammy okay then we're doing you're good you're in such a beautiful position to start this year this is wonderful
Starting point is 01:04:21 I think so too I'm sorry it's a silly reason to call in no it's good it's positive vibes and it's good for our listeners to hear about that so I'm glad you called in but you don't have any problems anyway so it was nice to meet you good luck lovely to meet you love to meet you bye thank you you're absolutely welcome I think like being aware of it is half of the battle because so many people do lose themselves in whatever relationship they're in right it's like the runaway bride thing of like she doesn't know how she likes her eggs she just likes them however whatever guy she's with at the time you know likes them I so thought I was the only person who quoted that ad nauseum but I'm so glad you did too I don't know how I like my eggs
Starting point is 01:05:03 The amount of times I've fucking said that in my life. Yes, exactly. Okay, everybody. You can watch Ponies starring Amelia Clarke and Hayley Lou Richardson. You can watch Ponies on the Peacock Network. Amelia Clarke, I'm so happy I got to talk to you. I just love you so much. I think you're just such a breath of fresh air.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Thanks. Thank you so much. It was so wonderful to meet you properly. Yes, and I hope to see you in person at some point and have a wonderful press tour. Keep your chin up. Yes. After talking about yourself for three days, I understand how annoying that can be.
Starting point is 01:05:36 So yeah, stay positive. I'm glad I got you on the front end. Okay, take care. Bye-bye. Okay, bye guys. The word of the week is euphonious. Adjective, pleasant in sound, especially in speech, agreeable to the ear. Euphonious.
Starting point is 01:05:55 used in a sentence euphemia is the most euphonious of amelia's middle names euphonious okay guys the high and mighty tour is about to begin i'm in dc february 13th february 14th atlantic city which i just added 15th is norfolk virginia february 19th madison wisconsin february 20th is milwaukee wisconsin february 21st detroit michigan february 22nd rama ontario that's canada for those of you who don't speak canadia march 13th cleveland ohio march 14th columbus ohio march 15th cincinnati ohio and then march 20th is denver colorado march 27th portland maine march 28th Providence, Rhode Island. March 29th, Springfield, Massachusetts. April 10th is Chicago. I'll be at the Chicago Theater. April 11th, Indianapolis, Indiana. April 12th, Louisville, Kentucky.
Starting point is 01:06:57 April 16th is Albuquerque, New Mexico. April 17th is Mesa, Arizona. April 23rd is Kansas City, Missouri. April 24th is St. Louis, Missouri. April 25th is Minneapolis, Minnesota. April 30th, Nashville, Tennessee. May 1st is Charlotte, North Carolina. May 2nd is Durham, North Carolina. May 6th, I'm doing Netflix is a Joke Festival. I will be in Los Angeles. That is a new announcement. And May 15th, Saratoga, California. May 16th, Monterey, California. May 17th, Modesto, California. And then June 4th, Port Chester, New York. June 5th is Boston, Mass. And June 12th is Portland, Oregon. And then Seattle is June 13th. So suck on that, everybody. Go to ChelseaHandler.com for tickets. Do you want advice from Chelsea? Write
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