Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler - Survivor and Surviving the Election with Jon Lovett

Episode Date: September 26, 2024

Crooked Media co-founder, host of Lovett or Leave It, and co-host of Pod Save America Jon Lovett is here to talk about the dire plight of America, how we can help save democracy by getting involved, and most importantly, his new life as a reality TV star - on Survivor season 47.  Then: A little sister finds her big sister’s baby daddy on a dating app. A soon-to-be-bride takes umbrage with a bridesmaid’s bad habit.  And a boyfriend struggles with telling his girlfriend’s parents that he’s trans, but is afraid of what could happen if they find out from another source.   * Get Involved at VoteSaveAmerica.com  * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at [e-mail] * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Buenos dias. Como estas? Muy bien. My Spanish gets good and then it gets worse. It's so many dips of Spanish when I get here. So my trip here this time, I'm only here for two weeks this time, is to not put too much pressure on myself and to just let, I say the words that I know in Spanish. I don't try to practice them on my bike rides going, well, it is the past tense, the future tense. I'm just saying what I know in Spanish and then the rest I say in English. Yeah. You know, if you just use the verb, someone else can conjugate for you. That's what I'm thinking. Or if you start everything with

puedes, which is can you, then I can just, then I don't have to think about any other verbs. Yeah, exactly. Excellent. You know, and of course, like an Aperol spritz or two doesn't really help with command of Spanish, right? I wish I could get back into Aperol spritzes. I've kind of like I used to love Aperol spritzes and I guess I over, it's like everything with me. I overdo everything and then I can never have it again. I got really into

elderflower martinis for a while. Well, elderflower is delicious. It's so good. And they have elderflower spritzes, which are which actually I wouldn't mind having one of those, right? Actually, I get it. I will. Hey, Brad. Puedes traerme una Aperol

a spritz de elderflower. Gracias. Our guest today is one of the top five smartest people that I know. He's a co-founder of Crooked Media. He's co-host of Pod Save America. He is the host of Love It or Leave It. And he is the co-author of the number one New York Times bestseller, Democracy or Else. And he's a contestant on the upcoming season of Survivor.

Please welcome, and we don't know who won because it's not out and he can't say, but watch this. Please welcome John Lovett. Oh, yeah, baby. Hey, this has been a long time coming. Here we are. John Lovett. Oh, God, I was just listening to you in the car on my way from my anal rectum exam this morning. I had one of those.

I'm not sure if you've had one of those recently, but it was pretty demoralizing. Was that for pleasure or for medical? This was at a doctor's office. It was at a doctor's office. I know where you're going with that question, and I wanted to get ahead of it. John Lovett, welcome to Dear Chelsea. Great to be here. I mean, it must be so exciting for you to be able to add one more podcast to your list of

the things that you do for a living. Listen, I just, I spend more time speaking into a microphone than not speaking into a microphone. I've grown extremely comfortable in this medium. It's just so happy to be here. You're so good at this medium. I mean, nothing makes me laugh on a podcast more than your comments, whether it's Pod Save America or Love It or Leave It. I mean, I know Love It or it is more comedy based and you're having a really fucking good time doing it. I can tell and I can hear. And I know you're touring a lot with the show and you're having a really good time, especially with this election season happening. But one of the most exciting developments that's happened to you is that you were you were on the newest season of Survivor.

Yeah. No, I am. It seems ridiculous, but it's true. It does seem ridiculous. But knowing you and knowing what a fan you are of the show, So I'm going to project that you won Survivor. Thank you. That means a lot. That means the world to me. Yes. I mean, I would think that you would know exactly what you were doing going in there.

I don't think the physical ailments that you're dealing with in a sort of permanent way, you know, his physical kind of shortcomings in terms of athleticism, et cetera. No, and I hear that. Yeah. Just so people, you're saying that I'm not athletic, but I'm just sort of an awkward kind of careening Jew, barely able to walk one foot in front of the other, let alone balance and jump and so and the like. I think what you lack in your physical prowess, you make up intellectually.

So I don't really feel like it's a shortcoming. I would think if you do as well as I think you will have done during Survivor. And this, by the way, will be the first season of Survivor that I watch because I'm going to have to watch you. I think what you lack in the physicality, you are gesturing, gesturing vaguely in my direction. So you can't say anything about Survivor, right? No, can't say a thing.

Do you want to say it was a positive experience? It was, I'm glad I did it. It was a fascinating experience. I learned a lot and I am excited and nervous for people to see it. Did you lose any weight during Survivor? That's always the most fascinating aspect to me of the weight, is watching the weight loss transitions. Well, so I will say two things.

First of all, I am not going to answer because I do believe that is a clue information. I see. But I will say that Manjaro does prepare one for the experience. But you can only you couldn't take the Manjaro with you, right? You could only do it before you left. Right. Theoretically. Theoretically.

Theoretically. But who knows what the new rules of Survivor are? Maybe they let you bring that. That's actually probably pretty good for the contestants, but it probably defeats the purpose. Anyway, so we can't talk about that. Then let's talk about what you missed while you were on Survivor, which were a couple of big political moments.

Which political moment are you most upset about missing or are you happy that you missed it? So Trump conviction was obviously a very big deal. That feels like six years ago now. It feels like forever ago. We've completely moved on. But the story that was to me the most shocking to have just completely missed

was the fact that Samuel Alito and his wife were flying these insurrectionist right-wing flags, I believe at their beach house. And it was like a short-lived news cycle. But the idea that a Supreme Court justice is connecting himself with that awful group of people, and the fact that he claimed that it wasn't his flag, but it was his wife's flag. So he's saying that in front of his house, there is a, I guess a flagpole, which again, red flag, but you know, listen, what are we doing? Are we doing a morning bugle? What are we doing here? But, but then he's claiming that it wasn't his flag. It was his wife's flag. That's not how flags work. If there's a flag bowl in front of your house and there's a flag waving on it, that flag speaks for you. That's

the nature of flags. They're not per person. Great point. Absolutely. They don't send specific messages it's not his and hers flags right yeah yeah so it wasn't just one of their houses it was two of their houses so it's two of their houses yeah so okay as if that's not a family discussion when somebody's hoisting a fucking flag up in front of your house you're like oh like if you put up a kkk flag and i came home and i completely disagreed with that and didn't say anything to doug my dog who hung it that's not realistic at all to be like oh i guess that's there now The Supreme Court will never cease to amaze me, the current Supreme Court. I have this ideation that it's going to change in the future. I have fantasies about what will happen to the

Supreme Court if we get the right people elected. How are you finding this election season, John? Well, so a lot of twists and turns. It is like we have never lived through an election like this before. I know we said that in 2016. We said that in 2020. They've all been unique in their own special way. But the fact that, what, 60 days ago or so, Joe Biden was still the nominee. And we all felt like we were slowly marching towards the edge of a cliff and with no hope of stopping ourselves. And then there's an assassination attempt. There is the most consequential debate any of us have ever seen in our lifetimes. No debate has ever mattered more. Then there is this several week period of

staring into an abyss of truly coming to believe that Donald Trump would win while everyone collectively hope that Joe Biden would do what was in the best interest of Democrats and the country and listen to the better angels of his nature. Then he does. Then Kamala Harris comes out of the gate as like a fully formed, ready to go national nominee for a presidential ticket, an extraordinary talent and skill and confidence and self-resolve to stand up and carry this mantle, even though she hadn't had the year and a half that most candidates would have had and is taking this pressure and responding so well to it better than I think there are people that are critical of Kamala Harris.

I've been critical of Kamala Harris in the past, but I don't even think her biggest fans could have predicted how ready and capable and up to this challenge she would be, how much she would rise to the occasion. And then on top of all that, we go through this extraordinary change. There's this incredible momentum. There's this incredible enthusiasm and the polls are still fucking tied. And so we head into this election feeling like the wind is at our backs. And yet we all have to recognize that the vibes are good. The enthusiasm is good. But we could lose this election and that can keep you up at night. Maybe it should. But the more important thing is how we respond to it in this next eight weeks to make sure we do everything we can, because no matter

how whether they'll be good polls or bad polls, like we should just assume that we are down by a quarter of a point everywhere. Yeah. Well, what would you suggest to those people that are listening? I know I have a lot of listeners who don't feel like they have a platform big enough to do anything. And what would you suggest? Canvassing your neighborhoods, canvassing the states? What? So, first of all, if you've donated even like five dollars to a Democrat somewhere in America, you're being deluged with text messages asking you for more money. Some of the texts are real. Some of them you don't know if they're real. At a time when people don't really trust the news and they don't really trust politicians, friends and neighbors matter more

than they have ever mattered before. So there's, I would say, three big things people can do. one is they can donate campaigns need to be up on the air especially in the home stretch two they can volunteer for campaigns and do the phone banking and door knocking the face-to-face and person-to-person interactions that will matter the most and three you can talk to the people in your life in a generous open respectful way while trying to make them understand the stakes and why it's so important that whether or not you're an independent who doesn't really pay attention to politics or a lefty who's super frustrated with Democrats generally, both important groups of people that we have to reach, everybody needs to come together to stop Donald

Trump. Then we can have a whole bunch of fights after. We got a whole bunch of fights we have to have and we're going to have them. And if you want to protest Kamala Harris at her inauguration, you go for it. If you want to be angry at Democrats for not delivering on their promises, You should make your voices heard. We will have those fights. We need to have those fights. But we have just a few weeks to do everything we can to stop Donald Trump. And unless we stop Donald Trump, we don't get to have any of those conversations.

We don't get to have any of those debates. So people should go to votesaveamerica.com. We will give you the most effective ways to volunteer. We will give you the most effective ways to donate. We will give you the most effective ways to help. You can tune out a lot of the kind of texts and noise and bullshit and polls. And just Vote Save America will give you some steps that you can take day to day. And if you do just a few things between now and election day, just you don't have to become volunteer of the year.

You don't have to you don't have to be out there every hour of every day. But if you just do a little bit more than you did last time, if you make sure you vote and then make sure you if you didn't volunteer before volunteer, if you did one shift, do two shifts. If you just get out there, you can like that will make the difference. So vote save America dot com. Sign up. We will we will help you through this. Yeah. And I feel like, you know, as a woman, I just feel like this one single issue is probably the most paramount issue for women, whether or not you care or you're not enthused about Kamala Harris. If you if you have that kind of attitude, like, I'm not sure. It's like we're we're voting about our reproductive rights. Like that is the most important single issue I can think of that is going to affect the next five generations of people and so on. If you can't think of anything that you care enough about to get you to the ballot, think about your fucking rights as a woman.

Like, how could you possibly say I'm going to sit this election out when that's on the ballot? That's unconscionable. And even for the men in my family. Like, I like what you're saying, John. Obviously, it's you know, you have to be open and be able to talk to people who disagree with you in a way that is is deferential to all people involved. But I have a nephew who was asking to come to one of my Vegas residency dates and wanted to come on the private plane. And I was like, well, you know, he errs towards being conservative. I'm like, first of all, you're not old enough. He's like, I'm fiscally conservative. I'm like, you don't make enough money to be fiscally conservative.

And you're not old enough to be fiscally conservative. So please stop that. And he's like, can I come to this, you know, November 2nd date in Vegas? I said, well, it depends who you're voting for, you know, like, and he goes, come on, really? And I'm like, no, no, really? The person who is providing you with this time and this opportunity and all of the other fucking five-star vacations you've been on in your life were given to you by somebody who had the

right to choose and who had the right to pursue her dreams and what go after what she wanted to in life and you cannot disregard that because i think a lot of young guys seem to forget about all the women in their lives and how important of a decision that this is so i know there's not a lot of straight men listening to this podcast but for the gay men and for the women out here please make sure the men in your family are aware of how how damaging this is and how important this is because you can't have a debate about all these issues it just doesn't work you know then you go back and forth about ukraine about gaza about this and about that and these are unwinnable topics and arguments but the right for a female to choose is not an unwinnable argument no and

most people agree and and most people understand that i think look i think for the typical person if you're listening to this and you're wondering, well, I can't hang a private jet flight over the head of my relative. Is there something else I could do? Thankfully, yes. You don't need a private jet to do the persuasion work. I mean, it helps. Chelsea knows it helps. Yeah. Listen, it's all I've got, basically. You know what I mean? I do think there's something like interesting right now. Like there's a new Times poll that came out, shows what polls have been showing for a long time that there's just this big gender gap that women by a big majority are going to vote for Kamala Harris and men are going to vote for Donald Trump. That's been true. That was true in 2020.

That was true in 2016. I do think that like there's a missing part of this debate where it's like Trump pretends he's very masculine. He's some like, you know, big, tough guys. Obviously not true. I do think there is like an argument that we need to be making to men. That's about like if you believe and like you can have a problem with the gender politics of this, you can wonder if this is like the best way to think about it, whatever. There are a lot of men out there that take a lot of pride in believing they are going to protect women like that they're protectors and that like they're going to protect the women in their lives and to me like i do think there's an argument worth making to the men in your life that's like hey

you believe in being tough you believe in being strong you believe in protecting women if you want to stand in front of the women in your life and and help them and support them and protect them from the world the way you do that is by voting for kamala harris like women need you to be their protectors in this election. And I do think there's a lot of men out there that feel a little bit like, there's a reason right-wingers are using trans issues and gender issues to try to bring young men into the tent.

Because I do think we spend a lot of time talking about like toxic masculinity and not enough time talking about positive examples of masculinity. And if people don't feel comfortable inside of a movement, if they don't feel welcome, if they feel a bit confused about what their place is, I think that leaves them vulnerable to the right.

And I think saying to like young men, like, Hey, come on in. Like we actually need your help. If you want to show what it means to be a man, this is what it means to be a man right now. I mean, standing with the women in your life and doing what they need. I love that. I love that. I'm going to text that to my nephew as soon as we're done on this podcast today. See if it works. I have a personal question for you, John. I know that you are so busy and you're flying around and you're always recording podcasts and you're always, and I could tell when I listened to love it or leave it, that you write a lot beforehand. And how do you keep your stamina up and your brain cells firing?

So first of all, love it or leave it, we have these incredible comedy writers, Hallie Kiefer, Sarah Lazarus, a great team of writers, great producers that kind of make sure that the show stays on the rails and that I can plug in and do a fair amount of writing on Tuesdays before we record the Tuesday show. And then a lot of the day Thursday before we record the Thursday show. But like, I really do rely on them. And there are definitely days where I'll go to Sarah and Hallie and be like, you got to just hand me the show right now. I like, I did as much as I could,

but I am fully, we were on the road and I'm tired. And like, we've spent years working together and they really understand the voice of the show. And so I can really trust them. And I couldn't do it without a group of people that I really trust. I really worry that like, I could do this indefinitely, but I think it's sort of a larger example

of like the way Twitter breaks people's brains. Because if you're thinking in little tiny increments all the time, you can have smart, funny thoughts to share, but they're not going to be that new. You're not going to synthesize. You're not going to be able to step back and like really take a look at what's happening, right? Like you can like kind of deal with, you're a bit like Lucy on the conveyor belt, kind of like trying to keep things moving and trying to stay ahead of the next box of chocolates. But I don't think there's space to really step back. One thing I think we still have to grapple with, all of us, is what is the longer term way we are going to stop having

presidential elections where the stakes feel fucking total, right? How do we get to the point where we don't have to worry that the Republicans are going to put out somebody who, if they win, may try to take away basic human rights, basic democratic rights? Like, why does every election have to feel like our last? And what is it that we're failing to do? Like, I think there's a lot of reasons. This is something that's happening all over the world. There's right wing figures rising all over the world. I think it's a result of what's happening in the economy. It's a result of the media. It's in larger political trends, social media, the Internet. There's a lot of things causing it. But we really should step back and look at this and say, hold on. 2016, 2020,

2024. We have seen Donald Trump. We know who Donald Trump is. Election after election, there's still 47 percent of people that are like, thumbs up. That's my pick. Right. That's like fucked up. There's no equity in pointing it out all the time. It's that, you know, it's not practical to be like, I can't believe someone like Donald Trump is this close. We all know it. I think it's actually part of what has driven a lot of liberals and progressives and Democrats a little bit mad over the last decade. It's like there are certain kinds of, I think, like online resistance people that like their phone screens haven't locked since 2016 and they're just like fucked up. But I think that's like the core reason, which is like they can't

understand how we live in a world where anybody would pull the lever for this guy. We should stop asking it like a rhetorical question and understand like, what does it look like to really fucking defeat this extremist version of Republicans beyond just beating them so often, so many times that a bunch of craven Republicans decide they need a better way? That's one important step we have to take. But like there's deeper rot here. Like there's a there's like there are roots through the foundation and we got to we got to figure that out. Period. That was the end of his thought. It was a period. I'm going to put it there. OK, on that note, we're going to take a break, and we're going to be right back with John Lovett. There's no shortcut for saving time,

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Our first email comes from Ella. Her subject line is, to tell or not to tell. My sister had her first baby two weeks ago, and her partner slash baby daddy is on a dating app. Dear Chelsea, I need your advice. My older sister just had her first baby. It's the first in the family. She's in her early 30s, 13 days ago. Her relationship is the epitome of nontraditional.

She's been seeing her boyfriend, partner on and off for over five years. Earlier on, he had a pattern of sleeping with other women, mostly fans it seems. He was an athlete for several years until retiring a few years ago. That's so weird. Athletes hardly ever do that kind of thing. topos are and my sister justified it once telling me you know as long as he's going to therapy and working on himself the cheating is okay insane i know my middle sister isn't a fan of him claiming she saw him four years ago or so while they were dating well the sister and the guy were dating

leave a bar with another girl not even trying to hide it i like him plenty but i don't know him terribly well she likes to keep parts of their lives compartmentalized anyway he has a separate apartment that he keeps as a, quote, bachelor pad. Not my words, his. Now here's the huge thing I need your advice on. I just reopened two different dating apps. Haven't in months, but I gotta get back on the proverbial horse. I opened one, swiped no on just two people, and lo and behold, my sister's partner pops up. Keep in mind, this happened just three days after they got new family portraits taken with my baby nephew. I am shook. I screen recorded and screen grabbed for safekeeping. Do I tell my sister that I saw him there active on said app?

Do I avoid it and ask her if they've had a shift and are no longer exclusive, which I'm doubtful about? Do I say something to him? Do I pretend it didn't happen? I can't tell my other sister who already hates him. So what do I do? If I tell my oldest sister, what's the best way to approach it? I'm also afraid he'll see me on the app and blow his cover.

Let me know, Ella. Okay. Well, everyone knows how I feel about this. John, why don't we let you, I want to know how you feel about this. so you're saying you're quote shook unquote why what about this is shocking he everything you've described as a situation which of course this person would be on a dating apps it seems like the keeping of a bachelor pad described as such as sort of indicative of where they're at like the person having the baby like they've made a series of choices those are their choices we

support women making their own choices. It seems like this is the sister. Yeah. Being like a little bit of a busybody here. Like, you know, it's like, I don't know. She was just on a dating app scrolling, John. I don't know. Is she being a busybody? Yeah. I don't think there's anything wrong to me with being like to your sister, like, hey, what's up with how's the relationship been? Although I have a feeling that the question like how is the relationship in is like a loaded question between these sisters because it is very clear the sister writing does not approve of their sister's choices right and so I find it hard to believe that that doesn't come across with the like hey just a quick question like what's happening with the father your child you guys

together what's going on there so like you know that's sort of where I'm at on this which is like you do want to tell your sister you like you want to point out that this guy fucking sucks and like it seems like he does but you're not dating him true since it's an older sister I feel like maybe they have an open relationship and she just doesn't like share that with the rest of her family well yeah first of all i'm of the i'm always tell on everyone tell on him tell on him tell on him but also i would agree it sounds like this woman who already said okay you know like he we he as long as he's going to therapy and working on it blah blah blah i mean she just had a baby 13 years ago i think she knows what she's dealing with and she's okay with it that wouldn't prevent

me from saying first of all clicking yes on him when you scroll on him and and go hey what's up funny meeting you here a b if i can get him from all sides or b take the screen grab and make sure they're both together when you go oh funny i saw you on my dating app this week just together i'd like to really blow shit up but no but but as a sister i know that john you're you're not a sister to anyone you're a brother because you're a male and you identify as one but I as a woman will always especially if it's your sister and I guarantee you it will have no impact on their relationship but at least then you can know and if you know that and you know it's not going to have any impact then fine but at some point she's going to get sick of it or she's not

but she's it's not going to have an impact on the relationship so it's just a matter of how honest do you want to be because you have every right to tell her it's not like you were snooping you weren't over at his apartment looking through shit you were on a public platform where you saw him actively pursuing dating so there's really nothing there's no question about saying that you saw it in my opinion i think you should absolutely say something to your sister because hopefully she can get rid of him sooner than later it doesn't like seem like he's going to stop cheating on her especially with a bachelor pad and if you have a new baby and you want to start a new life which She's not going to want to do.

She's going to feel vulnerable and go, oh, I'm with him. It's okay. He's working on it. He's not working on it. So just FYI, he's not working on it. You know, anyone who's working on a relationship isn't on a dating app when their significant other gives birth to their child. It's a very funny idea.

That's like, as long as we're in therapy, working on the cheating, you can keep cheating. It's like, well, that's not, it's not how, I mean, like, that's not just, this is not how I like, oh, it's not like, it's not like plugging the BP oil spill. You know, it's not like, oh, like there's still leakage, but we're making progress. Like he is actively cheating on you. Yeah, it's like I want to stop doing heroin, but I'm going to continue snorting it while we talk about me stopping it. Yeah, there's a question that comes up for me, which is even if she's fine with him sleeping

with other people, she is someone who just had a baby with this guy. What's she going to feel like when he comes home? Like not if but when he comes home and is like, hey, I got someone else pregnant. Oh, right. You know, yeah, there might be something to talk to your sister about. Yeah, exactly. But, you know, people don't want to hear shit. No, they don't. But I mean, when it is your sister, you really have to be honest with your sisters. And there's a reason why her other sister hates him. Hopefully your sister will snap out of it sooner than later.

But there's your advice from us. Yeah. Chelsea says bring it up at a family party. I love the school tell on everyone. No secret keeping here. That's good to know, actually. Not for men, not for straight men. I don't keep secrets for straight men. I was like, did you watch the lacey peterson documentary i didn't i didn't okay well you know this one there's two now there's two there's one on netflix and then there's a secondary one on prime which people are like oh that actually sows some doubts i'm like only if you're a fucking moron does it sow any doubts there couldn't be anyone more guilty than scott peterson and i don't have to say allegedly because he actually got convicted of the fucking crime so i also want to say like

these two sisters how they're still on his side one of him became a lawyer to represent him and like the innocence project has taken on his oh yeah the innocent project first of all if i fuck your brother okay i don't care if he is your brother when you come home when you find out that your brother's wife is missing then the next piece of information you find out is that he had a bowl of cereal and was like oh my wife is missing let me call her parents and then the next piece of information is that he had a boat that no one fucking knew about i would if that were my brother i'd be like you're a murderer and i know it i'm not on your side anymore you took it too far this time forget about the amber fry of it all there's already enough evidence

leading up to the fact that before even they even reveal that he had a girlfriend it's like that kind of blind loyalty and the only two people who believe he's innocent well his parents obviously are his sister one is not even a real sister it's a sister-in-law she's the one who got a legal degree it's so crazy to me that these women they found him at the border with blonde hair and fucking forty thousand dollars and she's like it's not what you think bitch it's exactly what we think and you need to get your fucking head examined uh-huh and i think that brings us right back to ella it's exactly what you think it's exactly what you think right yeah well our next question comes from penny penny is 33 and she says dear chelsea i was wondering if you would

have any advice on letting your very close friend know that she has a very annoying tick my friend is constantly sniffing like constantly during my bachelorette party while laying in bed trying to will my hangover away all i could hear was sniff sniff sniff and i was in a separate room i just about screamed tiffany please stop sniffing i thought about it again as i'll be riding with her to the beach tomorrow and i'm already getting annoyed knowing she'll be sniffing the whole way she does not do cocaine that i know of she does not have allergies thank you thank you for Thank you for putting that aside, because that was my first question. Okay.

When she finally blows her nose, it sounds like pure air. I firmly believe this is a nervous tick, and I think someone needs to make her aware of it. Every single person I mentioned it to has said, OMG, I know what is with the sniffing. So I'm not the only one. Anywho, let me know what you think. Lots of love, Penny. And she is going to join us here. Oh, good.

This seems like a long conversation. We really have time to delve into this. Hello, Penny. Hi, how are you guys? You're with our special guest, John Lovett today. Hi. No way. Oh my gosh.

Hi. He's a survivor. That's true. I, yeah, I think you should say something. I would say, I would say something to my friend, especially if people are talking about her behind her back. You should just say, hey, you sniff a lot. It's kind of annoying.

Do you know if it's a nervous tick or what? Okay. Seriously. I mean, yeah. Why not? Why wouldn't you say something? Yeah, and I would not mention that you brought this up not just to people behind your friend's back,

but also on a podcast with Chelsea Handler. Let the first conversation play out. See where that lands you. Yeah, definitely. That makes sense, yeah. Can I just ask you, since we have you, what would be your hesitation in telling her that? It's a pretty innocuous thing to say to someone.

I know it's kind of uncomfortable, but it's helpful too. Oh, definitely. it's just she's an overthinker and I just don't want to give her anything else to be nervous about and I feel like maybe it'll even make it worse or she'll just retract even more was if you yelled at her like if you did a Chelsea style that would not be well received if she's an overthinker but you can in a very gentle loving way go you know hey I wanted to bring something up with you and I hope this isn't I mean this might be a little sensitive for you to hear but I've noticed that you sniff a lot and I remember sitting in my bed the other day hearing

it. And I, I kind of felt myself being like, what? And then I thought, oh, I should just talk to you about it. I just want to let you know, like, maybe you're not aware that you do it. And I want to, you know, you can do this in a totally loving friend, loving way, because it is helpful to know if you're doing something that annoys other people. Yeah, definitely. I would want to know for sure. Absolutely. My cousin, my niece told me the reason I had to stop smoking pot was because it was having this deleterious impact on my esophagus. And I was going like this all the time and she goes do you know how fucking annoying that is and i was like oh i didn't realize anyone else heard me she goes you do it all the time and i was like oh i have to stop smoking pot

like i can't do that anymore so that's sad for all of us gummies only i know gummies only yeah i do wonder if maybe it is like a legitimate tick like it is she might have undiagnosed ocd or something like that and maybe this will be a problem could be post nasal drip yeah and then she could get some medicine for that as well but it's all everybody does better with a little self-awareness and as long as it comes from a place of love then you have nothing to worry about yeah that's true yes as long as you're not screaming or stop fucking sniffing it's gonna be fine yeah and if her name really is tiffany sniffing is right there just so you know if you need something in your back pocket there you go in case you go back to elementary school and want

to make fun of her behind her back and then to her face no i'm saying that's exactly what not to do, even though sniffing me is very good. I'm sitting right there. Leave it. Leave it there. Leave it on the shelf. Don't take that one down. Leave it on the table. OK, well, thanks for calling in. This was an important one. Thank you. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Listen, John is here to do hard hitting news. And here we are. That's absolutely right. This is hard hitting for sure. For schnizzle. Yes. I just think that like, look, if I had a delicate overthinker as a friend with a small and ultimately harmless tick. I'd want it on a pretty big podcast as soon as possible.

Absolutely. I used to do this thing where I would scratch my hand all the time. You guys can see me, but I would scratch my hand when I was on camera and my producers were like, hey, do you, are you, is this a nervous tick that you scratch your hand? And I was like, oh, I didn't even know I did it. And then when I tried to stop it, I couldn't. It scratched even more. It itched even more. I was doing something which was like on stage, putting the cards like in front of my face. And like, of course, you can't don't cover your face when you're on stage. Sort of one of those rules. You're a moneymaker.

Yeah, right. This is yeah, right. This is these are my surgeon's hands. Exactly. You don't want to fuck up that plastic surgery. Mm hmm. Well, our next question comes from Wit. Wit is 38 in Quebec.

Dear Chelsea, I'm a trans man in a relationship with a wonderful cis woman. It's been a little over a year and we're very much in love. She's only ever dated cis men and sees me as a man and embraces all parts of me. The thing is her family doesn't know I'm trans. I'm not exactly stealth. You can easily find out I'm trans by googling my name and I'm just living my quiet normal life but I've never been a fan of having to come out to anyone. I hate that it's an issue or something that has to be done and so I guess that's why I'm hesitant to do it. I don't want me being trans to be a thing that defines me in their eyes. that and there's always the worry of rejection. My girlfriend has no issue telling them but wants

me to make the decision about when I'm comfortable doing so. I really really like her family and they like me and she and I plan on being together and have talked about having kids eventually but the issue of telling her parents does weigh on me. I'm not sure how or when to go about it or if we need to but I guess they deserve to know. I'd rather them find out from us than from some interaction with my family or friends or an internet article that makes them think we've been keeping a big secret from them. Any advice? Thanks, Witt. Hi, Witt. Hi. Hi, Witt. This is John Lovett. He's our special guest today. Hi, how are you? Hi, John. I listen to all of y'all's podcasts. Oh, yay. That's great. Well, thank you. He's like the podcast dream team. Oh, that's

awesome. That's right. That's exactly what this is. Exactly. Well, I mean, I would just say, you know, why do they need to know? That's what my instinct says, but then I understand what you're saying. You don't want them to find out going down the road. Like, I just don't feel like I just don't feel like that's pertinent information at this stage in the game. Like, why? Why do they need to know that? You know, and I hear what you're saying. I don't. John, what do you think? What do you have to say about this? Let me think some more. It's interesting. And there's this debate around passing, right? Because there are trans people that can pass and there are trans people that can't pass. I'm actually dating a non-binary person

uses they them pronouns assigned female at birth now more masculine presenting and I do think the challenge is that like this is an important part of who they are right like their past is their biography how they got to where they are it's like as you're getting closer to a family the family of your partner you want them to know who you are that is who who you are and so I guess it's like maybe the answer is somewhere in between coming out and not talking about it, right? Like everyone is focused on the election. Everybody's talking about politics. I have find it hard to believe that at family gatherings and other settings that trans issues aren't coming up and just saying, oh, just so you know, by the way, they're trans and they've been through a transition and it was

a really hard and important decision, but it made their life a lot better, right? Like I think that can be a really valuable thing for people who might not realize when they see the news demagoguing around LGBT issues that actually there's a trans person they really like and have come to know. So that's sort of where I fall on this. Because I guess it is the question of, John, you bring up a good point. Of course, it's part of who you are. But it's almost like I don't want to be light about something that's serious. But it's like I think certain things in your past are not pertinent information for the family that you're about to marry into. It's like my previous sex

life and my previous sexual partners. That's not necessary. That's not pertinent information for my future partner's family to know. And I kind of feel that way about a person who has transitioned, although I'm not trans, so I can't speak to that. I would just think like you've worked so hard to become this person that you wanted to be, that you feel comfortable in your own skin. It doesn't feel fair that you have to even explain your past to these people. That's, that's where I'm coming from. But if that is a huge part of who you consider yourself to be today, then that is a different story than that is sharing with them, you know, your innermost feelings and like being as intimate as possible with your partner's family. And the question is, do you need to be

that intimate with them? Wait, wait, wait, I'm sorry. Is it you or your partner? No, it's my girlfriend's parents. Yeah, my girlfriend's family doesn't know. It's your girlfriend's family. Well, I guess it's sort of like there should be just zero pressure. I think there's a lot of people who live in the kind of gray middle where they like maybe don't know a trans person. Maybe they haven't thought about it very hard. Maybe they're going to say some weird stuff. Maybe they're going to screw up, but ultimately are want to be empathetic. Like, what do you think? Yeah, well, I think I kind of have feelings of both John and Chelsea. On the one side, I'm fortunate enough to pass. And I feel like it's really unfair that it's a piece of information that this society and

the climate that we're kind of political climate that we're living in feels like you have to disclose this very personal piece of information. Unfortunately, it's what we live in. At the same time I don't want them to find out in some other way whether it be through an interaction or online or whatnot and then have a worse reaction right like we've been lying to them or or didn't trust them with the information so wanting to avoid that reaction but also being kind of like you know it's it's very personal it's something that I don't think defines me I think it's a part of who I am, but I have a chip on my shoulder. And I think it's just an insecurity that once you divulge the information, you have this feeling. It's like when you go in public and

you think people are looking at you, but no one gives a shit. It's like the same thing as as soon as they know that about me, I feel like, oh, that's the first thing they're going to think about me, which is probably not true. I think it's just this insecurity that I have. You mentioned there are certain situations where it would be maybe helpful for them to know ahead of time like you mentioned like oh we were all going to the lake or and there was going to be maybe a swimsuit situation and so like to have them know ahead of time would be helpful but then it's also like are you going to ask your potential future in-laws about their medical history no you know what i mean it's i think i would say just from a completely objective point of view

that if there's an organic time where it comes up like you know will ferrell has this new documentary out with his best friend and she and they talk about like let's say they bring that up to you or say someone that comes up in conversation that would be a nice organic time to go oh yeah because you don't really want to put so much weight on an issue that is no longer an issue you are a man now so you present as a man you're living as a man that would be a great opportunity to be like oh god yeah don't i know that story you know i i'm trans as well like in a in a way where it's not like we're sitting down we're having this big conversation we have to tell you I used to be a woman it doesn't deserve all of that because that a it's totally unfair to you and it's totally

unfair to any trans person to have to sit there and explain themselves over and over again so I feel like if you have an opportunity to say it lightly and kind of extract yourself from that situation and let them deal with the aftermath and the questions they have that shouldn't be on you to explain to them. And if anything, it's more on your partner to have to explain to them because she's the one who's decided to be with you and she can answer their questions. I just don't think it's fair for people who make these decisions to constantly have to explain themselves, especially when you're in a loving relationship and they already love you. And you know what I mean? So I think maybe if you can wait for something organic like that to happen, wait for

them to see that movie or wait until you see a trans person or the subject of transit, you know, transgender comes up or, you know, whatever. And then just say it lightly and anyone's going to look at you and think you're a man. And I think that's all you owe anybody. Yeah. Like in talking with my therapist, who's very, I guess, protective and is like, it's nobody's business. I understand that side, but my partner had talked to her therapist and she's a little older and I guess uninformed. And she asked really invasive questions like about my body so it really scared because her parents are in their 70s but we're thinking maybe take me out of the equation because it isn't fair or something organic not like at a dinner and be like hey mom

pass the salt and by the way but like have an organic conversation that is isn't so much weight sitting them down yeah if we don't think it's a big deal we shouldn't make it a big deal what do you want them to know in the perfect world I wish that nobody knew I think that's kind of a part of being trans I mean not everybody's the same some people are very out and loud and proud and that's okay that's not where I stand although I'm not I don't hide it because like I had said to Catherine is you can easily find out I'm trans whether it's by googling my name or lots of people that I know so i don't hide it but i'm i don't outwardly you know disclose it to everybody but i think it's not even that they deserve to know it's just i don't we don't want to feel like we're walking on

eggshells whether we're around a group of friends that are like very open and talk about things and then it just come out in that way so it's more so that but i yeah i wish that they didn't have to know so do whatever the fuck you want you know you don't know these people anything yeah and if they do find out it's like yeah it's on them to fit it's on them to it's on them for how they handle it there was no reason and also when they find out and say oh you were hiding we weren't hiding anything there was no reason to tell you it's a google away that's that's yeah that's you could find that information out we know that information's out there it just never came up and what we didn't feel like we had that you know we needed to tell you but i do think if you do tell

them you decide differently yes let your let your partner deal with it and let her tell them you know in your absence it's like haven't you been through enough yeah and i think like i mean our politics in canada are a little less entertaining but also a lot less scary a lot less a lot more civilized and a lot less funny let's be honest exactly yeah but you know i mean we're surrounded by U.S. politics and the political climate is very wacky over there. And there's a lot of things that I don't see reflected back in like who I am about like trans politics and that kind of stuff that that's the only that's one thing that sort of sways me of being like, you know, I wish there wasn't this big fireball about all these policies and issues coming up

that is really not issues. It's not people's business and everything. It really is that you're not responsible for people's reactions. You're not responsible for how important someone judges this or how the fact that they didn't know becomes a stand-in for their discomfort or uncertainty or lack of knowledge or lack of empathy like you don't you're not responsible yeah for that at all and so whatever reaction they have has nothing to do with you when they find out how they found out and what that means to them has nothing to do with you so like i think that's to me important i was at a wedding and the person i'm seeing saw a bunch of people from their childhood that hadn't seen them since they were presenting as a woman. And these are people that

probably like a lot of older people don't know trans people. This is all does feel a bit new and confusing, but it was really just interesting watching an older person say like, nice to meet you. And then the person I'm seeing saying, you know, me remember like we grew up together and then you see on their faces sort of dawning recognition and a little bit of like, oh my god a trans person one of those trans people that i've heard about in the news it's like the new my gay best friend yeah yeah and so like like i don't know you don't know what their reaction is going to be but you also don't know in a good way right like some people will surprise you i also think you know what you were just saying talking about canadian politics versus american politics and how

there's a shadow of us in your country a big one a big dark one it's almost like this conversation is becoming necessary to you because of the way America is acting around this issue. And if you took that out of the equation, how would you feel about telling your significant other's family? Like, it would probably be a lesser issue. It wouldn't be such a big thing. So you're letting all of this and all of the noise kind of complicate your own personal life.

So I would say to think about that as well. Yeah, you're right. And I think what's important is just remembering that I'm not responsible for their reactions and I can't control their reaction. So whether we decide to tell them or when we do and how, that I just have to remember that I can't control any of that. But yeah, you're right. If there wasn't all this political crap going around, the weight would be a lot lighter. Yeah. And I would I always think about when I have a big decision or something like what you're talking about, thinking about making it less of an issue for the people that come after you. Right. So you not addressing it and say you go through, say her parents never find out and they're in their 70s and you have children and they never know. They never needed to know. It's almost like you're kind of paving the way for future people to go, oh, yeah, I don't have to make this proclamation and declaration to everybody.

It's not necessary. Absolutely necessary. It could be necessary in different areas of your life, but it's really not in this. So I just think that's something you should think about, too. OK. Will you keep us posted on how things go if you decide to tell them or not? Yeah. Yeah, totally.

it's and i had said to katherine that it was like one of the last things off the books and i've been together like a little over a year we live together now both of our families we've met both of families quite a few times and it was like the last it's the last thing that i think is weighing on me really doesn't care she's like we can tell them or not it's no big deal for me but she wants me to be comfortable so it's like the last thing before i don't know a proposal or we'd like to get married and have a future together so yeah yeah well i think you will i think you will and if for some reason say you decide not to tell them and for some reason down the road they find out and they have a big problem with them have them call into the podcast and we

can explain everything perfect we'll tell them we'll have john back and everything it'll be perfect it'll be like a reunion sounds good okay take care thank you thank you so much I heard something recently that really stuck out to me and it's a it was from a trans creator that I follow on tiktok mother birdie and they said you know people even queer people are like well what were you assigned at birth like really trying to like get in the comments being like but you know what are your pronouns what were your pronouns sort of thing and they said assigned female at birth or assigned male at birth isn't a thing that represents who you are it's a moment in time and a thing that happened to you, a medical thing that happened to you. And that

just really, really stuck out to me. It's not doesn't really have anything to do with who the person is. Yeah. Well, that's what people don't understand is that, you know, that's what Republicans who are who think that, you know, you're you're you go to school. I mean, what did Trump say the other day? What did he say that people are changing people's sexes? Oh, yeah, they're doing they're changing their sexes at schools and people are assassinating their children after childbirth people are killing their babies after they're born Mike you mean at schools where they get shot every day because the fucking NRA helps fund the Republican Party okay we're out of time we're gonna take a break and we're gonna come back and we're gonna wrap

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Do something to save democracy, people. This is it. We're in the home stretch. And tell Witt's future in-laws that he's trans. Go do one of your other podcasts now. Chelsea, I just hope the rest of your day anally is going as well as it could go. Thank you. That's what I want for you.

So far, there have been no repercussions, so I appreciate your concern. Thank you. I'm going to investigate after this. And that's a good way to close. That's what your doctor said. Oh, this is good. That's exactly the kind of comment I'm talking about. All right.

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abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. These are stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the new podcast, Solita, we share the messy reality of traveling alone as a woman. I can wait four hours for the next bus,

or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinheiro, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility. Listen to Solita on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

plenty of overthought opinions. Yeah, I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. Listen to Pro Society on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Hoda Kotb, host of the podcast Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb. You know, I'm always searching for inspiration and useful tools to maximize joy.

Like when my friend Henry Winkler offered advice to aspiring actors and really anybody hoping to stand out. You're not hired just to fill time and space. you're hired to fill the space with you. Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. becomes the site of a social experiment and fights back.

Guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you? Listen to Our Town on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.