Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler - Two Women and a Pig with Hannah Gadsby

Episode Date: July 16, 2026

Hannah Gadsby joins Chelsea to chat about the dubious nature of cruises, why their new special features a sock puppet, and how Tasmania is not in Africa.  * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at [e-mail] * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Montclair, New Jersey, and Calgary. That's Canada. And September, I will be in Santa Barbara, San Diego, New York City, Philly, and New Haven, Connecticut. October is Atlanta, Baltimore, Saginaw, Michigan, Pittsburgh, Toronto, Boise, Idaho, and Spokane. And then in November, I'll be in San Francisco. I'm coming to Salt Lake City, Austin, Houston, Dallas, babies. I'll be there. And then in December, I am closing out my tour in Denver and Vancouver. So get your tickets at chelseahandler.com for the High and Mighty Tour. Hi, Catherine. Hi, Chelsea. Are you on a boat? Where am I? I'm on the Amalfi Coast.

Oh, how lovely. Yes, I am offshore on the Amalfi. I've decided to work in oil. I'm on an oiler. You're an oil rigger. Yes, I'm an oil rigger. I felt like I had to get down to my roots, and that is oil rigging you know how popular that's been down to your roots and then down into the sea yes I just am happy that I'm not in America right now and I'm enjoying my free time while I have it I have the month of July off before I get back on tour everybody I'll be back in August and in the meantime I am drinking and swimming and acting like the way God intended me to behave and meanwhile like the powers that be over here are dropping like flies so i know i can't believe though when are they gonna admit that mitch mcconnell is dead i mean this is

absolutely ridiculous i know that photo that they posted is like clearly ai because the newspaper he was holding like the picture is wrong i saw a thing about it online it's yeah but if the democrats can't get it together to get them to prove that mitch mcconnell is dead before that special election kicks in then they deserve that you know what i mean like get it agreed together and you cannot this is weekend at bernie's i mean i honestly was laughing when i heard this i'm like this is seriously happening in our country and you heard the thing about his um his assistant called to cancel his like country club reservation and they're like why do you need to cancel and she's like my boss is dead that was like two weeks ago oh oh no i didn't hear that that's

even better i mean this is good they're gonna make movies about this it's so stupid i mean They're going to make movies about a lot of this. It's fully Wag the Dog. Totally. Yeah, that was a good movie. It's Wag the Dog Beats Weekend at Bernie's. But Wag the Dog is good for anyone. If you're listening and you haven't seen that movie,

it's worth seeing that movie. Absolutely. Oh, and also we should mention, since we recorded this episode, poor Bonnie Tyler has passed away, which is a subject of conversation. Oh, yes. Bonnie Tyler died.

Yes, this comes up in this conversation. They were going to go on a cruise with Bonnie Tyler. Well, you'll hear it. Listen to the episode. Yes. Yes. We had a really good time talking to them. You know our guests from their blockbuster comedy specials, Nanette, Douglas, and then Something Special. And their new special, Woof, is on YouTube now. So please welcome Hannah Gadsby. Hi, Hannah Gadsby. Hi. Welcome to America. Thank you so much for having me. oh my god i love you i love you i think you yeah i do i think you're such a breath of fresh air

you should spend more time with me i know change it's easy to love from afar yeah i like to keep a distance well you are keeping the distance because you live in fucking tasmania which oh no no no no no oh you're from tasmania you're from tasmania still australia but uh i'm on the mainland these days. How did you get over to the mainland? Oh, ships ahoy. We've got a ferry. I've been to Tasmania. Now tell me about that. I was doing, you know, some dates in Australia. So I thought, my cousin and I thought, oh, we should go somewhere we've never been. And somebody said, you should go to Tasmania. Who said that to you? An Australian. This guy, Johnny. His name is Johnny Cox. Classic Johnny. Yeah, exactly. I'd like to shout him out.

And he said, but before you go, you have to read Robert Hughes' book, The Fatal Shore. That's intense homework. This is a book that is about 800 pages. Have you read it, Hannah? Yes, I did. Yeah. When I was studying art history. I didn't read it all.

Flick through. The writing's tiny. Well, I did. I read all of it. Well, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I love books.

I love books. I read your book. I loved your book. Oh, thank you. I read that book and I was in Tasmania and it was such a disturbing book because it talks about the colonization which started in Tasmania for all of Australia and all the people that they would. No, I'm going to pull you up.

Uh-oh, maybe I didn't retain that much. Yeah, let's have a chat about this. Okay, so Tasmania was the second penal colony. It's a great word. After Sydney, because they landed in Sydney, set up the jail situation. They thought it's quite nice here. This is hardly punishment. And then I'm like, let's find somewhere terrible.

And that's when they settled Tasmania. So it was the second one. And then what were you going to say about Tasmania? I take a while to warm up. It's okay. No problem. I'll fill in. Tasmania was the more severe penal colony where they took the really bad guys

and where they had – and funnily enough, when you go to Sydney, like if you go on a boat ride in Sydney and you're coming back in, And you're like, can you imagine bringing a bunch of prisoners and criminals here? Like, and then what? You're like, this is paradise. Like, why would you be against that? So, but obviously it wasn't paradise because the book, the brutality of A Fatal Shore is that book gave me diarrhea for four days in a row in Tasmania, reading about the whipping

and the lashing. And they would hang these guys by the post. And then the guys were eating people. they were trying to escape and they're in the risk. Oh, that's, that's Alexander Pierce you're talking about there. So when they've gone, oh, Tasmania is terrible. And then like, well, it's coming together. Let's find another island.

So they found another island on the East coast, the furthest away you can get from Hobart, which is the only town in town. And Alexander Pierce and a bunch of his buddies on this island broke out. And then like, we've got to make our way to Hobart. And it is, and it is still really dense wilderness. Like there are parts of the Eastern coast of Tasmania that, no one's been no west west coast that's where i'm from that uh no one's really been through

you know so it's dense and ancient forest right and they made their way to hobart eventually but only alexander pierce arrived because he had he just ate his other escapees on the way like one by one and um and then they said well you should go back to this island and then he escaped again And people went with him and at that time they got to the beach of the mainland of Tasmania and he just ate them there. He's like, I don't need to walk this far. I just like eating people now. Yeah, yeah, that's what happens.

My mum told me we were elated. Whenever we get in trouble, you're a direct descendant of Alexander Pearce. That's a good recall for his name. Well, another thing though is in Sydney and in Tasmania, all the streets or lots of the streets are named after these prison wardens. So when you're walking down the street, all of the names from the book, I'm like, why does this sound familiar?

And then I'm like, oh, this was named after one of the prison wardens. Did you ever notice that? Of course, of course. We're very proud of our terrible history. I'm a direct descendant of a lady off the first flight. It wasn't quite the first flight. It was the second flight. I think they talk about it in that.

It's called the floating brothel because they realized everyone was dying. and then they thought, you know, we should just send a lot of women down there. So it was just a ship full of women and my descendants stole a Bible, classic, and that was the only ship that arrived with more people on it than left because they just had babies on the way. They had a birthing tent on the deck because usually when you'd stop in all the ports on the way, if there were women on the ship, They'd be rowed to other ships to have a bit of a plow.

And this one. Not funny at all. No, no. Just want to put that out there, but kind of funny in the distance. Just the language. Sorry. And then so, but there's a lady on board who took all these young women under her wing and established the floating brothel.

And it was just like, no, these guys can come here and I'll protect all these women. And then they had a birthing tent on board. I think they had three or four births because it takes so long to get there. My descendant, they landed in Sydney and everyone's like, women. And then they're like, so they sent her off to Norfolk Island, which is just way off the east coast of Australia. And they colonized that because they thought Norfolk pines are great

for building boats and they're not. So then they're just stuck there on this wild island. And there they lived in threes, polygamy was established there and every household got two women and a pig. And so it was pretty wild. And then she went to Tasmania. I don't come from good stock. Wow, two women and a pig.

Yeah. Kind of sounds great. She eventually got, you know, after she served her sentence, she got a huge plot of land outside Sandy Bay, in Sandy Bay in Hobart, which is the posh suburb like you know um but she sold it for a barrel of rum obviously yeah so that's yeah the fatal shore is yeah i quite i quite like that's an uplifting book for me it's full of hope well i'm just thinking like two women and a pig is better than being on your own with the pig and the guy you know what i mean a pig sounds great if a man is

not there like but even if a man is there i would want another woman and if i absolutely you know what i mean yes better than to be alone with the pig and the man yeah not many of those marriages lasted congratulations on your marriage how long have you been married now thank you how long five years five years oh what do you what words of wisdom what kernels of wisdom have you picked up from being married for five years? Look, I think five years is not long enough to just like, let me tell you, do you know, like that's, I haven't even got to the seven year itch. Let me rephrase it then. Let me rephrase it. How has marriage impacted the way that you see yourself as an individual on this earth? Oh, well, cohabitating with someone has made me

understand just how badly I operate through life so it's having a constant witness that's both alarming and comforting you know just you know being seen by someone all the time I quite enjoy it because I have the capacity to disappear yeah I've really enjoyed it that's nice and that's not very funny no and you don't have to be funny i mean it's a serious question kind well i've i've made a rod for my back haven't i behind every night spent making the kids lunches there's a lot of suspense will they finally eat the veggies will the pesto survive the first bite will the lunchbox come home empty half full or come home at all and will you finish episode 8 before you're done slicing the cucumbers

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It's now out on YouTube. It's Hannah Gadsby's newest special, and it's very non-traditional. I liked it. I liked the opening particularly. I want to bring that up because I have a big history. We're probably of the same age. I have a history of Cabbage Patch children in my life, and as soon as you started talking about that. It brought me back to the time where parents were going to Toys R Us at six o'clock in

the morning, standing in line for Toys R Us to open to get the right Cabbage Patch Kid for their daughter, which was me. It was chaotic. And they never got the right one. I got two preemies before I got a real one. And one of them had a- Did you say preemies? Yeah. They had got me like the rudders, the runts of the litter, the rudders. Oh, two soons, two soons. Two soons, that's right, two soons. Exactly. So I got two of them.

Then I got a fake Cabbage Patch cake because my dad was like, fuck this shit. I'm not standing in line at Toys R Us at 6 o'clock in the morning. And I was like, why not? I'm like, everyone, I need to bring a Cabbage Patch to school to be legitimate. Like I have to legitimize myself. Did you have a Cabbage Patch?

There was nothing a cabbage patch doll could do to legitimise me Like I think you have to be edging toward legitimacy But no, I got a thing called an ice cream doll Like it was a fake one You know, when cabbage patch dolls took off Other people were like, well let's People prefer ice cream You'd think the ice cream doll would have taken off

Before a cabbage patch doll, you know Like cabbage, yuck Ice cream, correct I didn't like dolls, so I wasn't – and they were ugly. They were objectively ugly and they always used to confuse me why everyone was excited about them. But it keeps happening, like Labooboos and Beanie Babies. Every generation has this.

And I think the trick is dolls are frightening. but i there is actually an answer to your question because you talk in the special about like where did all the cabbage patch dolls go and there was i think i think it was a my strange addiction that they covered this on but there is this couple in like ohio and they have like 15 000 cabbage patch dolls and they have names for all of them and they have parties with their friends and they have like a special building that's you know heat temperature regulated it's very hard to imagine they have friends i i think there's a lid that's a there's a lid that's a kind of obsession truly preclude a lot what did you play with when you were growing up if you didn't like cabbage kids

i liked to play with my with my animals i had a dog i just mucked about really we lived we were It was sort of quite feral. There was a lot of swimming. I played golf. Do you still play golf? I picked it up again. I used to play. I was a state champion.

Oh, wow. The state was Tasmania, so we can just back off the impressiveness there. Excuse you. And so that was what I did on weekends. It was a little country golf club, so basically I was just hanging out with the elderly. Yeah. Well, I mean, I know you suffer from social anxiety and that you've talked about panic attacks and such.

Was that happening when you were a kid too? No, because I was just hanging out with old people. They take the stress right off. It is fucking true. Just tea and biscuits. It is easy to hang out with old people. They don't care. They're just happy someone's talking to them.

I just walked the street. I knew who had bad mobility and biscuits. They couldn't get away from me. So tell us, when did that stuff, like when did you start? identifying that something or that you felt some way about your like disposition or that you had panic attacks or that you had anxiety? Like at what age did that become relevant to you or that you had a name for it? Yeah, not while I was a child. You didn't have a name for it. I just got tired. I'm sort of avoidant and I get burnt out and tired. So I just become a potato as opposed

to a jittery bug but as I've gotten older and like I just can't impress upon people enough just how isolated my childhood was like it's Tasmania as you know Chelsea is very isolated like it's a hop skip and a jump to get there and it is but in the 80s it was even more isolated you know there just wasn't we had two or three channels on television leaving the state was prohibitively expensive you know and it's incredibly inbred it's like it's a bit like iceland actually is it you know yeah iceland and tasmania get studied a lot because of the purity of our genetic pool wow they say purity but i say it's a you know you don't meet a lot of icelandic people that have left iceland you know what i mean they're not about in the world like you don't run into

people from iceland and you're the first person i've met well the first person that i know of that's from Tasmania? There's a couple of people like I can't remember who they are so we probably shouldn't talk about it. You also can't have that kind of competition. No although I'm not a very competitive person. Really? I'd rather not. A very big part of being Australian is understanding the power of being second best. Well right now right now you're doing a lot better than we are so I wouldn't. I know but I think that's a lot to do with our attitude because you guys are so hopeful You're always striving and sometimes being still is better. I think it's really interesting, I think.

We're an interesting experiment because of, you know, we're both settled. We're both, American and Australia both exist because Britain couldn't get their shit together and they still can't get their shit together but they don't think about that. Britain should never be responsible for drawing maps. Yeah, you know what, you raise a very good point.

Like they've just shown time and time again that every time they draw up a new border, bad stuff happens for centuries. But also, but you guys were settled because you were like, you know, hopeful and thought that Britain wasn't pure enough and we were settled because, you know, they needed somewhere to send the dregs. So we understood who we are from the beginning. Your country is built on this, like we're better than that

and we're just like we're not even good enough for that dirty island. that dirty island do you know when i went to tasmania for that first like three months before the trip once we booked to the trip i was convinced i was going to africa because of tanzania i got the oh man i didn't even the amount of times the amount of times people think i'm from africa well if the shoe fits it doesn't i um i yeah i was doing it i had one of those lovely general meetings um back in the day this was when i was too naive to have meetings in in hollywood the if my success is really funny because it's just i just got launched into a place that really only very ambitious people belong. And it was, so, you know, I'd given up,

I was too old, not too old, but like I was 40 and you just get enough information to go, well, I'm never going to be a superstar. I'll just hang out here and do my thing. And then all of a sudden I was in a place where I really needed to have different muscles. Anyway, so I was taking these meetings and not making the most of them but that is funny ultimately and I think it was Warner Brothers and they were all you know you know when there's a feeding frenzy on you know and they're all very excited this has passed and they made me a cup of tea they were very keen to make me tea or they asked me if I wanted tea and so I said yes because it's tea then forgetting I was in america no offense and they're like oh no like they offered me tea didn't know how to make it

ended up making like the hottest water in a paper cup and i couldn't hold it and it's like thank you for the tea and i'm like i'm gonna have to drink this because they're like is it good i'm like it's too hot and then they went around the table telling us each who they were and why i should be interested and of course they brought in the whole department of reality television and you know the who's the guy with the cowboy hat he was there the one who's ruined the world oh oh the guy that did The Apprentice yeah oh fuck I don't know his name but I know who you're talking about yeah giddy up he was there and someone else in his team was talking and they're like oh we've done The Bachelor The Bachelor you've seen The Bachelor The Bachelor is amazing

it's very big in Australia I'm not sure about Tanzania and I'm like I was you know I'm like I was going to say, I think you mean Tasmania, but then the tea burst through my back. And then there was no more meeting. So I really nailed that one. When was the last time you were here? Probably when I saw you. Yeah, when you saw me.

That was a hell of a party, wasn't it? It was. It was. That's a good party, actually. Really? I mean, I had a good time. It feels like any party with comedians is like a wedding with only brides. i like a daytime event i like a daytime party and i like to get i like to get that fucking

shit over with like and not and so for that i like it and i like when all the comedians because the truth of the matter is you don't get to see a lot of comedians in real life you unless you're working out at comedy clubs you know when you're touring and stuff you see your people and you don't really get to mingle with them so i do like that aspect of that party and i love that it's in the daytime and I love that yes I like that party that's not that's a party that I will go to you obviously feel what differently I just don't like parties yeah right and then what concerned me about that party was the moment when speeches started happening oh no I don't know I knew where the speeches were and so you just hear this voice over the cast over the the garden going

excuse me hello and everyone's just sort of looking around I'm like you're trying to run a live comedy festival you need to know where to put a stage and have our people understand where to look when you're talking so I was worried about the logistics so I heard what you said earlier about America and I like what you say I think I agree with you we think we're better than everybody what are your other impressions of America like your first impressions when you came over here for the first time? I mean, Americans are very friendly and I enjoy that. Sometimes your voices can pitch a bit loud, but that's the accent. The way that you speak, your tongue gets out of the way and there's a lot of noise comes out. I've learned the American

accent, but I will not speak because it is too loud coming from within. I startle easily. So the only way i can speak american is with if i do like a batman it's like i can speak american but i won't go louder than that um i like americans i married one yeah i think it's always an interesting thing when you have an idea of a culture and then when you have to mingle it breaks apart like the idea of a national identity always breaks apart because individuals ruin everything this is true this is true how did you and your how did you and your wife meet jenny was my producer of nanette when i took it to to new york uh so she was looking after me this was before it went on to netflix and she was so good at her job like she knew what i

wanted before i wanted it she's like oh do you want a cup of tea and i'm like no oh oh actually Yeah, I think I do. You know, that kept happening. So when I was gearing up to do my first world tour, we were spoken, she was at a loose end, and I brought her on to sort of help me tour. We had a strong working relationship before I wore her down. And how did you make your move?

I didn't. Apparently, we looked back on it and apparently, you know, we were dating for a year before we understood that we were dating. We just did everything because that was romantic, didn't clock that. And Jenny was being very professional. She's very professional, very good at her job. And I was just hyper aware of the, you know, Weinstein factor. She was my employee.

So, you know, we – how long was it, Jenny? Nine months. We're nine months. you were and you were working together for nine months before you became a couple yeah and we know you're not good at a party we know you don't like parties we know you don't want to oh chelsea i have to tell you something i'm doing a gay cruise in august oh through the mediterranean 3 000 people i accept it because it's through the mediterranean and sailing through the path of totality for the total eclipse and the headline act was going to be bonnie tyler

but she's now in an induced coma and not going so now i'm just on a boat and i thought you know who might know how to handle that is chelsea handler have you done a cruise you know what hannah even i know not to do a fucking cruise fucking hell what have i done i mean i really think you should get out of that really but this is something i do a lot i'm like i don't like these things i don't like these things and then for some reason sometimes i just inexplicably move toward a thing i do that i should i do that too so yeah so that's what this is so i guess i'm anyway so you've not done a cruise i haven't i have an aversion to cruises and that what's your aversion it's probably the same as the people the

amount of people stuck on a one pile of essential basically garbage because that's what you're doing you're floating on garbage and it's too many people and it's you run I don't want I don't want to be trapped it's everything that you already think is what I'm saying out loud what have I done how long is it how long is the cruise I did it for Bonnie nine nine nights nine oh okay I I thought you were going to say nine months. I'm like, what? Yes, I'm doing a reverse convict. I was like, how long is the sun totality?

I thought that was like a night. Okay, so nine days in the Mediterranean. I mean, you should just bring your journal and keep track of everything. I'm assuming Jenny's going with you. Yes, Jenny, I think, will have a lot of fun. Is there going to be gambling on the cruise? Yes. They all have a casino, I think, right?

It's a gamble to go on. funny that is funny that is funny that you signed up for bonnie tyler and now she's in a coma i mean i mean how glorious would that be little bonnie tyler little welsh witch just belting out total eclipse of the heart during an eclipse on a boat well maybe she'll come too in the time she's not when when do you set sail in August it's done I'm stuck on a boat without that they're gonna have to get some musical act and everyone's gonna be so excited and I can't rain on their parade right they've saved up for it this is their dream yeah right as much as it's my nightmare and then I have to do

two hours of comedy during the Moroccan themed night party and um but back to back I and I'm just like oh yeah i'm sure i'll be funny like an early show and a late show yeah oh i mean take pictures is all i have to say and take some videos as well okay what i might do and this is what i tend to do because i don't live on the surface of reality i like to you know the constant posting of what you're doing now is not not anything i've ever been able to it seems to be too soon right so I'll keep a daily diary and then post it later yeah that's fine that's better it's better that way anyway I like when I see people post about their trips oh after they've had some thought put into it rather than immediate I agree with that so you're way ahead of the game

in that department and only that department they're just like so they're sending all the things and they're just like as long as you cover up your your balls your penis and your vagina at breakfast anything goes I'm like oh did that was that in writing it was in writing wow I would use that as a that that would be a big red flag well they send it after you sign the contract so right it's like a nine-day party which it is gonna be a nine-day party but I do you drink or do you you I probably will yeah you don't strike me as someone who drinks or does drugs oh come on I do I'm a dark horse behind every night spent making the kids lunches

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bed and i just started screaming they are abducted stalked controlled and nearly silenced but these aren't stories about what's taken from them. They're stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality,

welcome home. This is Prose Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo, and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having.

I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. From best-selling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table. It's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters, then that is a Trojan horse. Whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations, or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to Pro Society on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages.

Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week, we talk to someone in show business, a.k.a. the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this?

How about we flip it on its head? How about we flip the script? What if the surprise woman, who actually you think is the straight man, is actually the one who's acting weird? Adam Scott, this entire time, you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never let go of that. I have. I would never set expectations for something like that. It seems like if the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it.

I'm always going to accept, you know, Danny McBride. Fine. Yeah. It's all this fragile masculinity exuding. exuding i could smell it walking down the hallway to be honest with you i was like is that weed nope it's fragile masculinity ben stiller no because a lot of times in out of context people don't get it or even know what a circle is you know what i mean like you're like oh what's this state everyone's so dumb except for you fake right fake and and

also not interested or just like oh i've got my life i don't care about your life and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us oh and by the way will ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode but he's just so busy listen to hollywood handbook on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts when your special nanette came out it was humongous it had a huge cultural impact and huge reaction from people i want to know how that impacted you and what you thought about that It was massive. I don't think I kind of appreciate it because you're in the middle of it

and it's quite intense. And it was just such a – I think what I struggled the most with as I've moved away from it is that it was such a personal show and up until the moment it went on Netflix, it was mine and the story was who I was telling in the room. And I'm a live performer. I've not done much screen. I'd done a little bit but not with my work you know so my audience was built on people I'd spoken

to who was sharing the same room as me and this was my first adventure into not that you know so my understanding of who my audience really disintegrated and then when you start to write new shows and stuff you're like who are you talking to anymore and I've always struggled with that like who do you know who your audience is Chelsea and does that like do you sometimes go well I'm changing a little bit as a human how do you bring your audience along with that without sort of alienating them because people really do like your old stuff better than your new stuff and like it's always this constant conversation and because you don't I don't you know I'm at a loss like I feel at sea I think the biggest feeling for me at the moment is I quite afraid

because I'm not a benign figure now. So anytime I speak up about something, you know, it can be a problem. I'm a lightning rod, like it or not. And, you know, it's not like Me Too worked. You know, who would have thought a hashtag was not actually equal to actual structures of power? And so we're in the middle of this disastrous and angry backlash. and I you know as soon as I poke my head up I'm a target and so that that feels quite frightening

so on the one hand I've trauma bonded on a grand scale so I could start a cult uh but on the other hand it's like I could you know there are angry people that people are angry at me still yeah well first of all if you're going to start a cult you're going to have to go back to Tasmania to do it because that's the proper place for that. The proper backdrop. But what about the opposite part of that? All the love and adulation you got. Didn't you notice that as well? I totally hear what you're saying. And I think people are really hateful and bigoted and everything. Yeah. Everything we're experiencing in the United States specifically and on a global level, but specific to me, because that's my experience. Our experience is everything feels like the overturning of Roe v.

Wade feels like a repercussion of Me Too and feels like a repercussion of Time's Up like men are like oh you think you're going to tell on us and then no you're not. I think what we're discovering is is there's a reactivity where culture is saying we would rather not feel bad and we would rather not feel bad about this and continue to do this like it's just like oh we've just discovered they have no shame and that's you know that's what you have to do the other side of it you know I mean when you've got sort of complex trauma going on hearing positive affectation is incredibly difficult my team drip feeds me praise you know we've got a nice message from a fan you know because sometimes I can't take it on and then I resent the fan for writing I'm like why are

talking to me um but over time I've and because the heat's disappeared a little bit you know and I'm left with my fans and I have a really lovely fan base so I'm learning how to exist in that it's nice you know and I I do like my fans and that's where the that's where our work is now you know they I sort of hit that crossroad where it's just like you need to have wide public you you know, I guess, success, and then you can have a career. Whereas now, if you can find your audience, you can have a career. And so I have an audience, and that feels really privileged. You know, I feel like younger comics are really struggling to find,

you know, because the industry is in such flux. The world we know has changed, so it's not like we can give actual advice to new comics because the landscape is so different and the way they're finding their audience is so different. So it just feels like a really unstable landscape, but I feel very grateful for my fans. And you won awards. I mean, you won a Peabody Award.

You won the Emmy, didn't you, for your special? I did. I won the Emmy. So that must have felt good. Yeah, I felt frightened about the Emmy because I did beat out Beyonce. And speaking of dedicated fan bases, um so my first my first words were sorry but that's probably the Australian part of me it was so big for me like what other people understood it to be and what I understood it to be has taken a long time to sort of synthesize but I feel like I'm there now but it's it's over

is there is that one of the reasons what what you're describing why you didn't want to film this stand-up special in a more in the traditional way i well when i mean as soon as i started doing that tour wolf it was clear i was in a bad way um like i was in a very bad mental health situation and you know you could just see other people who you know in the middle of a working phase and under stress and not in good mental health they say and do things that are very destructive not necessarily and i and i'm like you know because you can't when you're out you know sitting on an anxiety that a tour means you can't tamp that down you're like right i'm on tour now i'm constantly traveling i'm putting out work i'm self-promoting i'm in the public eye you don't get

to tamp that down so if you're starting up here i'm like this is a dangerous space to be in in a volatile time you know like it's things were really heating up particularly for for my people because you know that was the the time when you know the scapegoating of of trans and queer people really you know started to drop and you know because people forget because the internet makes it feel like we have a voice but we don't actually have protections but the voice bit upset people so we became the scapegoat so you know it's fear I was afraid and also you know it's a physiological thing for me I don't like change and tour is nothing but change so I understood that and I'm like I don't want because I do overthink it a bit because of the nature of the net I understand that

my fan base hang on to my work because like I said I've been trauma bonded like it means stuff to people but it's that has nothing to do with me but I am the figurehead of that and I take that really seriously like I don't want to abuse that you know because you know when I did Nanette it was like, I didn't, I didn't give a trigger warning, you know, like it was the angriest people, of course, were men and particularly male comedians. And, and then it fills us down from there. But there was also, I knew that risk and I was happy to take that. But the other risk, which was always an unknown for me, is it's like, it's people have experienced similar trauma. This could either be cathartic or really damaging. Like I took a lot of care in the show, writing a show

that it was something that could hold as a piece of work. Like I wasn't, you know, this wasn't, you know, me sort of trauma bombing. Like I'd worked this out. Like I'd thought about this. This was, you know, I channeled, I funneled a rage instead of just sprayed a rage. Yes, well said. That's exactly right.

But having said that, it's like all my decisions, I'm like I feel a duty of care to that audience not to muck about and I was up here with this anxiety. And, you know, I look back on this decision and I'm going, that's a decision only an anxious mind would make. And I think it worked out in a way. I'm just like, well, how about I channel this instability and direct that to Netflix and my career?

It's a victimless crime, you know. Like if I make these odd decisions and, like, you know, at this stage Netflix is like everything's funny. and so I ran an experiment, like, are you funny though? Like, can you be the joke? And I think I've told too many hostile jokes about Netflix to really truly be welcome on the platform. But it's a two-way street.

Like, I don't – Netflix fucking sucks. Like, they made transphobia profitable, and they formed very deliberately a feeding frenzy on a tiny, tiny minority. and we have no recourse you know and i remember at this party that we went to in netflix and you know ted stood up once everyone worked out where to look and he's like we have made the world less divisive because we've opened up free speech and i'm like speech just needs to be free because it's important and it's powerful and it can

you know make people feel things and you know when you agitate people then you can maneuver people you know it's flooding the zone um and they paid no care absolutely no care and because i'm that person you know whenever i was like if you can't say you know the the you know the transphobic debate within comedy i was the figurehead and they pulled me into that you know ted put me up as that like we have Dave Chappelle and we have Hannah Gadsby but I don't get paid nearly enough for that right you know like I don't have those protections I don't you know like and it was just a very vile time so I channeled that and I only went to the Netflix as a joke thing so that you know I used it as they paid for my airline tickets and my top surgery and I haven't spoken about my

top surgery publicly but it's just like you know what that's a good use of their money and it just you know it feels so hostile because for a lot of those guys it's just sport they're just like how what can I say who can I upset how close to the edge can I skate I'm like good on you but there are people who are trying to live there and are actually you know we're losing our rights you know and it's people are hostile and I think Netflix was really cavalier with that and it's not like I expect anything to change people hate us now it's been established like people are sick of us talking and the tide is too angry and activated about you know everything else there's no point trying to change that now like it's you it's too it's

too big and too angry and we are a scapegoat and people are distressed and it's a moment in history where people like you know people are scared of losing a quality of life that they currently exist in and that's across the whole spectrum from billionaires to people living in abject poverty but it's not the responsibility of people who are on the struggle bus to sort of rein in their terror it's the people who have genuine privilege that have a responsibility and they're not taking it so did you decide not to go back to netflix for this is that it was that i don't think we're speaking oh i think i don't think i'm on the radar anymore well you were at and it's not like i i mean so you're on the radar for sure because you were at the party i mean no i don't think i'm on

like i'm sure i'm on the radar but i'm not like i don't think like did you go to them and try to Did you sell them a special, this special? No, that's what the point of it was. Like, it's like I deliberately made something. Because they had the first right of refusal and so I made something. I see. Yeah, it doesn't exist. It's just an animation and an audio only.

And I knew, like, I wasn't like, I'm going to stick it to them. Like, I know it's a losing battle, but when you, like, I was in distress. So I thought, these are victimless crimes. Like, it doesn't matter. I can't do anything to Netflix. They're too big. It's over. It's done.

Whatever. but a little fight felt good in that sort of distress I was feeling yeah you must feel a big I mean I that the way you're talking about it makes me really kind of understand have a better understanding of the responsibility that you must feel and or the own and the onus that you must feel for like being a figurehead and what that means to people because I hear what you're saying And yeah, it's pretty hard to watch men get away with such bad comedy and picking on the people that need the allies the most. Like picking on that, it's like if you're such a good comedian, why aren't you going over there and thinking of something more clever and picking on the higher levels of like fruit that aren't so easy to grab? Well, it doesn't do good for your career.

Like, that's what I did. I went for the high fruit and, you know, they don't love it. You know, it's a complex time to be alive, though. This isn't personal. It's everybody is distressed. Yeah. How do you handle your stress now? What do you do?

I've clocked off. i um don't listen to the news i don't i'm not on social media i'm early onset quaint i'm going on a cruise but i don't think that'll help me connect no that cruise is gonna set you back if anything i'm running an experiment of like what is it like to be a human not involved in social media i'm sure it's fruitful it's much more fruitful than being involved it's also interesting because you I'm losing you're losing touch so as a comedian it's like you know what do you talk about then how do you connect to people but it is very calm I highly recommend it how long have you been off social media yeah about four years four or five years wow yeah it was too

dangerous for me yeah I know I hear you I hear you I think it's probably dangerous for most people but people are so addicted that they can't see. It's really, this is, you know, I'm not an economist and I don't understand, you know, broad economic principles but it's a logical extension of capitalism, isn't it? You know, it's like making money now is culture. So, you know, for a long time culture happened elsewhere but now making money is our culture.

It's not cultural capital, it's just capital capital. and that's what social media is. It's, you know, turning art into data points and now everyone's trying to create all the time, all the time. If you don't say something, you don't exist. If you don't put yourself on the screen, you don't exist and, you know, people are talking about it over here and then it's constantly moving

and I, as an organism, cannot cope, you know, but I grew up in such isolation. And I see people my age losing their minds because they're on social media too much, like melted. My sisters and I were on a girls weekend. We went to Sedona, Arizona, and my sister Simone was saying, we were talking about the state of affairs in our country, and she was like, we have no culture left.

America has no culture. Capital, capital. Yeah, yeah. And it's like the price you pay for capitalism, which sounds in theory like a great idea, but put to practice ends up being something completely opposite of what the intention is. And then the avarice that comes with the capitalism and then this whole experience with technology and what's happened, it's like there's no soul. Like the soul of our country is gone and has diminished so greatly that I don't know. Like, do you feel like the soul is gone in Australia? Do you feel the same way?

It's going to happen. You know, there's a slide beginning, but we're a bit delayed. It's not as bad here, but it's just there's no escaping it, I don't think. You know, because we're going to continue having more and more natural disasters and no infrastructure to help people, you know, recover from these things. Natural to the existence of being human is ebb and flow and the way we've built things is like we're always striving,

building, building, and we've just created a pile of fucking Jenga and we've just got to watch it, you know? But, I mean, at least your country was smart enough to prohibit social media for 16-year-olds and under. All Australian kids are going to reach 18 like they're homeschooled, you know? we're just gonna have these like you know like what does that mean for and they're on social media well no it's not like it's been successful it hasn't no their kids know how to get around it yeah but parents aren't parents held responsible if their kids are on social media there

i know they did that there they didn't do anything i don't know i mean that's a one step that's a major step that needed to be taken it is yeah i mean i think the regulation of of social media and silicon valley like i mean i shudder to think what's going to happen once the circle jerk that is silicon valley collapses you know like it's going to implode it's something you know it's just a it's wild it's a wild time to be alive it is so many unstable men with huge swaths of power And it's just like, we know this doesn't work. a month price guaranteed for two years on internet with a two-year term and auto pay credit visit bell.ca for details and to check availability bell connection is everything when i was 14 years old

i was kidnapped and held captive for nine months i survived and i've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them i'm elizabeth smart and these are the survivor files i just remember this low taunting voice next to my ear saying shut up don't say anything every week i'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable i knew if he woke up without a doubt he was going to hurt me i started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed and i just started screaming they are abducted stalked controlled and nearly silenced But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. They're stories about what it takes to make it out alive.

Listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If your bookshelf and your For You page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. This is Prose Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters pop culture obsessives and anyone who thinks pride and prejudice and love island deserve the same level of discourse i'm eli rallo and every week we're connecting the dots between books the internet and the conversations everyone can't stop having

i'm gonna have to look up this story i'm obsessed i'm obsessed from best-selling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments nothing is off the table it's Like, if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters, then that is a Trojan horse. Whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations, or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to Pro Society on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements.

We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week, we talk to someone in show business, a.k.a. the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman. Not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this?

How about we flip it on its head? How about we flip this around? okay what is the surprise woman who actually you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird adam scott this entire time you've been expecting adam sandler to come to visit the show i i would never let go of that i have i would never set expectations for something like that seems like if the universe allows for something like that to happen i'm open to it i'm always going to accept you know danny mcbride fine yeah it's all this fragile masculinity exuding i could smell it walking down the hallway to be honest with you

i was like is that weed nope it's fragile masculinity ben stiller no because a lot of times in out of context people don't get it or even know what a circle is you know what i mean They're so stupid. Everyone's so dumb except for you. And fake. Right, fake and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life. I don't care about your life. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us.

Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, let me ask you a question. if into in order to avoid this cruise that you're performing on you had to go on a boat with jeff bezos and lauren sanchez that's option one i'm gonna give you a selection okay one option is jeff bezos and lauren sanchez you have to go away with just the two of them on the boat and have

every meal with them for a week for a week for the nine days sorry you're going for nine days so nine days you can either go with them you can go with elon musk and whoever he's dating or you can go with mark zuckerberg and his wife for the nine days you have to choose one of those couples okay well not elon musk um sorry i threw that one in there without thinking i'm sure they all feel the same way about the same thing so they're a trifecta um And I think I could cope with all of them because I would make them jump overboard. I could, you know, if it's just them, I could work them.

I would win a one-on-one with any of those guys. Like I will outright, I know how to annoy people like that. I've met Jeff. I annoyed him. Did you? When did you meet him? I went to his silly little camp. Oh, Amazon?

For Amazon? Yeah, yeah. How was that? It was weird. It was a cult and I told him. And I stopped trying to start a cult. You're not charming enough. Oh.

I know. He really isn't charming. He did all the things. They invite people but they don't tell them why and sometimes they invite you back and sometimes they don't. It's 101. and he was trying you know he's like oh let's get all this culture here I'm like what the culture you're actively trying to destroy cool story buddy yeah I once went to one of those

think tanks weekends for google years ago and I just remember I met some interesting people that I'm still in touch with but overall it felt like you were yeah a part of a group that wasn't gonna to age well yeah think tank's a funny concept it is a funny concept as soon as as if once you all get together you're going to come up with all these great ideas and solutions as we know committees work well yeah aren't you happy you don't have a child um you know kinder but who's going to look after me when I'm old you know Jenny that's not why you have children no that is not why you have children look part of me yes absolutely because I it's just so much to think about yeah and then it's like as soon as you have a child you've got to start booking them in for their education it's

so much you know so much decision making and then but I think you know the idea of children remain sensible because it's like it keeps you connected i'm think i'm gonna recede i'm gonna i'm just full witch well i'm gray guarding gray gardens don't you go out and about at all i mean you're not gonna recede by just because you're off of social media i don't buy that i'm no i'm actively trying to go out and about i really became a lock-in i got the anxiety was bad and then it became a habit I didn't recover from the pandemic I just wasn't leaving the house so I've started taking myself on little jaunts and just rebuilding my confidence because you know when Nanette happened like I couldn't go out it was really a lot you know and I wasn't used to

being perceived you know I was someone who could go out and observe and that's how I lived you know skulking so it sort of like took me a long time now I took myself to the football as I went to a major sporting event the other day being in a crowd was was kind of exciting of a lot of men i think it's important to keep an eye on the patriarchy so i'm following australian rules football and formula one i saw that you were into formula one and i was wondering what that was about i've been to a formula one race i went last summer in which one miami or no i was in europe i was in europe oh i must have been in barcelona outside of barcelona yeah oh yes yes yeah classic how did you go too noisy right i loved it the catering was incredible i mean what did you have

what snacks everything they had beautiful catering stations upstairs in that vip section and you could get a steak and then you could get pasta and then you could get i mean they had everything you could imagine. And it wasn't like just nice food at a VIP event. It was next level. Like it was beautiful food, beautiful drinks. I mean, I barely watched the racing, you know, I wasn't really there for that. Did you do the grid walk? I did. I did do the grid walk. Did you get that really insanely awkward interview? What was his name? Yes, I did. I totally did. I'm obsessed with him. Obsessed with him. Have you ever watched that happen outside of

the one you participated in uh I have watched it I don't know that I saw that interview I've seen F1 but not that interview he's just walking through nobody wants to talk to him he's and he's just him and the cameraman and they don't know how to follow each other and he has the most awkward conversation I live for it the whole thing was quite awkward actually because yeah they put you down with all the other like VIPs or celebrities that are there and I'm not into Formula One so I don't even want to be like I don't even want to be seen there because I don't want to have to answer questions about formula one. Do you know what I mean? I just get to sound like a fucking asshole. So I was like, please, I don't want to be interviewed. And then they wrangle

you and they ask you questions and you're just trying to be as banal as possible in your answers and responses. But yeah, it was quite a, it was an interesting watching those guys get into those cars. That was where they're like, they're holding these hoses to them to keep them cool with air conditioning because yeah they're so so they're blowing this freezing cool um well freon i think onto them or not freon but whatever it's called coolant they're they're blowing it onto them as they get in these suits and their cars and these guys are dripping before they even take off and that's before the car the door is closed so i was more like shocked by the door is closed there's no door right whatever that is there's no is there a top thing it's a top thing they

close they just put a little thing it's open top they just put a little like oh yeah yeah like a heavy scarf that was my takeaway that there was a door so obviously i was paying very close attention but i was more i was more concerned about their temperatures i couldn't get my mind off of how hot they must be because of all the fire retardant they're wearing or what uh i think it's a pretty high also it's just a hot sport like they're sitting there running motors and revving engines and so it's really hot in that room where you go and not famously not a lot of trees on a formula one track well hannah gadsby this has been a very big pleasure i really enjoy you i am glad that you have jenny in your life yes yes we're all glad and i'm glad that you're

doing well and your new special is fantastic it's called woof everybody can watch it on youtube There's also a full album It's only the 20 minutes on YouTube And then there's the 80 minute show On audio only Which I like Yeah, and so it's like a book on tape But much funnier

Much funnier than any funny book on tape That's right I like tape Tape, doors, you know We're bringing all the stuff back Tape, doors, driveways, heat, whatever Okay, well Hannah, we'll let you go Thank you so much for your time today

I thought we were doing questions for other people who have problems. We ended up talking for a full hour. This was a full hour, so we don't have time to take questions. I was so looking forward to other people. I knew you weren't looking forward to that, so I kind of was like, let's just keep talking. No, I had answers. Never mind.

All right. I love it. Thank you so much for being with us. It's been lovely. One day we'll hang out. Yeah, well, when I come to Australia, I'll hit you up. Yeah, I have a plus one on the cruise, if you want. Okay, let me think about that.

Let me sleep on that and get back to you. Well, best wishes. You're doing a marvelous job. I also enjoy you. I enjoy how you've evolved. It's not as in you had to evolve, but as a human, we evolve, and it's hard to do that in the public eye when people want to pin you where they understand you.

I think you've navigated quite a graceful career. Oh, that's so nice of you. Thank you. Thank you. I can do it. Yes, you can. Lo puedo hacer. Lo puedo hacer.

That's Spanish for you can do it. Well, that's Spanish for I can do it. Oh, thank you. Chelsea. Chelsea can do it. I can't speak English or Spanish anymore. I don't know what to say to that. Adios.

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