Life with Nat - EP106: Sowing seeds spesh! #2

Episode Date: April 12, 2025

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Oh, good to see you. So good to see you. You alright? Yeah, good. How long has it been? Three weeks? I think it's been a month hasn't it? Is it?

Time just flies. It is flying. Right listen, I've got this for you. Nice cup of tea. Oh, thank you. Shall I just show you what they're doing? Yeah where are they? Right here we go. Where are the babies? They are like babies I can't believe what you've done. They're Mark's ones aren't they? All right the veggies are there. Have you been well though? All good? Yeah good. Excellent. Yeah. Well we'll start off with the ones that I've still got inside because I decided to plant another load of

bits and pieces because I sizzled some of them. Okay so these are additional ones. So these are additional. These yeah what do you think? They're ready to go outside. Okay. You see there, the stems are quite long. Yeah. They're leaning towards the light. Okay. So, yeah, they're ready to go in the cold frame. Okay, without the lid? Without the lid. Yeah. Um, maybe take the lid with you because you might just on a frosty night might want to put it on. um okay we'll put that and put the lid underneath maybe. Fine. We can take them outside um yeah they're getting a little bit leggy aren't they um yeah long stems but they'll be fine we can

put them on okay but um but we don't put them on the shirt do we? No once they've got the true leaf so that's coming yeah so I'd say another week and pop them on. All right. But we put them in a shelter position when we get outside. I'll show you. And look! Take off on the daily, yeah? Lovely.

Yeah, I can't. What one's that? That's a little Edinburgh. That's taken longer. Oh, a new one. A new one. Yeah, again, I just thought I'd buy another one because I was scared the others wouldn't do it. But you wait till you see the ones outside. Okay. They're

brilliant. What was it going to be? Mine. These are... what were these that I bought? I thought I wrote on these. So it's a different variety from the sew along that one. Yeah but again there's still zinnias and cosmo I can't remember what they are is that cornflour? I don't know I don't know why I've not written it on the thing always label I did I did label it I put I did it with a sharpie pen we'll work it out we'll find that's annoying right okay that's that now this I did the same same. Oh I know this is lettuce. We are doing flowers. I'm just telling you what I've got in here. Look I've got those seeds. No these are vegetables. They are lettuces and I think they should rock it. There's me salad so we haven't got

to worry about those. Bear with me. We go outside and I'm going to show you what we've got. So should we bring that out? Yeah let's bring that. Bring that tray out. Shall I bring that out now? Yeah that's it. Soon as sprouts get them outside. Oh sorry parcel there. They don't even, they just leave stuff now which is unbelievable really., so here's your little cold frame. Here's a little cold frame. Isn't it a gorgeous day? They're beautiful. Beautiful.

Okay, here we go. Right, let's have a look. Here we go. Oh my little... Right, come and have a look. Oh, okay. Right, so, what's looking good? These cosmos are looking good.

Yeah? Yeah, you've put them on. They look good. Do they look good? Yeah, they look good. I mean, you could, they're a little bit leggy here, but we can, once you put them on again, you know, we could put a bit of compost. Right. Let's focus on what's looking good first. These are the zinnias. Zinnias are looking alright aren't they? Yeah, look at this. Dahlia's looking amazing. That's a lot of growth on the

Dahlia. Isn't it? And this one. Yeah. I was really pleased with that. Well, I mean you've got enough tomatoes, thank you. Can you believe how many tomatoes he's got? It's hilarious. Wow, okay. Amazing, isn't it? But yeah, they're your tomatoes. They're all the tomato sweet peas. They're looking really dry. Let's do that.

So we need a tray underneath for the sweet peas. So they're quite crispy, aren't they? Shall we use the lid of that? Yeah. Oh, the lid that we had, this one over here. So yeah, if you can feel that outwards, it's a bit hard to see. It's a bit hard to see. It's a bit hard to see.

It's a bit hard to see. It's a bit hard to see. It's a bit hard to see. It's a bit hard to see. It's a bit hard to see. sweet peas so they're quite crispy. Shall we use the lid of that? Yeah. Oh the lid that we had, this one over here. So yeah if you can fill that up with some water. So we're gonna. Now that is truly, we only watered those, I can't believe how dry they look already. Yeah so we. I'm gonna, so I'm gonna fill this lid up. Fill that, yeah so a nice tray, that's enough water. And then we want to put the wool pots. Yeah. Yeah, that one's not even. No, there's a few of them that haven't taken. Yeah, that's all right though. And then that one's really fried, this one. Yeah. So I would put your sweet peas on the bottom shelf, because they're newly sprouted. Let's put the sweet peas on the bottom shelf. Let's put these dahlias on the top shelf. Right is that because they're looking strong?

Yeah once they start to germinate they can fry. Well give them another water. Well, give them another water. Oh wow. We'll get rid of... There we go. Right. Let me water them from the top as well. Yeah, they've dried out. But let's concentrate on what is doing good.

Your zinnias are doing well. Yeah, they're nice. Good. And it's worked well, watering from the bottom. The compost is nice and moist. Yeah, I feel like this... So more... Oh, the compost is nice and moist in here. Yeah, I feel like this... So they're good on the second shelf. These cosmos are all right.

There's one of two that have got a bit dry, but not too bad. These ones are completely fried. Fried to bit. No, but they were fried. I've just put them out here. Yeah, so I think with the frying, I think once, when you bring the new seedlings outside for the first time, put them in a sheltered place. So in your little cold frame,

maybe we'll take a picture in a minute. Yeah. But just on the bottom shelf, there's a bit of, you know, there's a bit of shade and some sun, hot sun. That would be really good for new seedlings. No way we can get any of those back? No, they're right. We can get a picture because it happens, it's real life. But there is a lot that has done well. Should we pop these up here? Yeah, top shelf, they're doing really well. Leave that one or put that on the top because it's about it.

Yeah, that's the right one. That's the right one on the top. Daly is on the top. Okie dokie. Right. What are these? They're peas. Ok.

They're frying as well aren't they? Yeah. Walmart. Would you put those down the bottom? Should I do that for him? I think these have, some of them have gone. You might get, yeah, it's alright. Yeah, I'll put them on the bottom while they try and recover.

We'll have to break it to Mark. Let's put these in guys. Water. These cosmos are very dry. But do you know what, the weather's been, it's been hot, isn't it? Yeah, but we've only, I mean, we watered them. Mark come out and watered some yesterday. He obviously didn't do my sweet peas. But yeah, like you say, it's been so warm that they've obviously just got fried over the last day or two. Yeah, I might put these at the bottom as well. Yeah.

But these cosmos are doing quite well. Good. We could always move this cosmos. So these, how old do these? These are from the... They're from us, from our week-end hours. Yeah. So they're a month old. Yep. They're looking... So you've probably got four or five that are good plants there. Yeah, good. Let's put them... and put all these cosmos together. I didn't know there was a hierarchy of what shelf for them to go on. Like this is why you're here.

We probably didn't cover it, did we? No. There was a lot to... A lot to be good about. Yeah. Should we put these poor sweet peas at the bottom? Yeah. I think we could sow some more sweet peas.

Have you got any with you? I've got more pots. Have you got any other seeds? I have a check. I might do. Because I'm not sure if I've got them. If not we can sow them at another time. Yeah. Last time to sow them really is April for sweet peas. So sometimes it just happens you might go away and then I need these looked after when I'm away. I don't know who's going to do it for me.

Ventilation. When you out all day do you open it up? No. I don't know who's gonna do it for me yet. Ventilation, when you're out all day, do you open it up? No, I haven't been opening it. That's what I'm saying. You haven't been opening it? Not in this heat, I was worried. Okay, yeah, so you want to keep it open because it's a bit too hot. Right. Yeah, so I would have it, probably to here.

Okay. Right. Good, right, good. Yeah, yeah, fine. Right, well I'm very happy so far with what's going on, because it is my first time doing any flowers. Yeah, it's first time and now these have got their true leaves. Yeah, should we do some potting on with these? We could do, yeah. Yeah, it might be better to do it sooner.

So zinnias don't like being transported too much. Right, okay. So yeah, once they've got their true leaves, we don't want, there's two, we've accidentally got one or two per cell, but it doesn't matter. We can, we might have to just pull out the weakest one. Right. Yeah, let's put on these.

These are looking good. We can put on some zinnias. Lovely. Is there any more cosmos that we said? Was there some inside? These might need to go on the bottom shelf. Sorry, these tomatoes. Oh, do you think so?

Okay. You don't know what you've moved it on. They need potting on these, do you?, but let's not get involved with the veg. We won't get involved with the veg today, that's for sure. I'll have a tomato once you've put them on. No, you can have a couple of tomatoes, please. How many do you think you've got in there? Definitely a hundred.

About a hundred. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. His do brilliantly well. Yeah, nice. He's a bit lucky. Oh, he just looks after it. That's not because they're itty, aren't they? Yeah, that's true. Right, so that's all good. Right, so we could put on some zinnias. We've had some brilliant messages from everyone. Oh, let's have a read. Honestly. Did you have some more cosmos in there that we could put on? I think we had one or two we could pot on. I'll take these with us. Okay, great. I mean we're gonna put these in the cold frame, weren't we? Yeah.

Yeah. But if they had the water. No, I'm gonna water them now. They should go at the bottom, shouldn't they? Yeah, I'm just looking at the... Just like the mind you, you're getting more... There's quite a lot of shade in that one, what do you think? Yeah, oh water from the bottom sorry. I'm sorry. No no no no no! That's alright, it won't harm but it just... Because they're little.

Yeah, so if you get the water on the leaves, the stem, oh that's quite a lot. Too much. Yeah, then pour half out. Yeah so then the seedlings can fry if they're wet. Mm-hmm. Well maybe that's what I've done then. Yeah, I think you've just fried them with water. Oh.

It doesn't matter because look, they're still, cosmos are very hardy. Right, okay. So how are yours doing at home anyway? Yeah, they're doing it. So I sowed mine a few days after when I got home from somewhere long. Yeah, so I need to put on my cosmos. Yeah.

Zinnias are looking good. A few of my zinnias got eaten by mice. Oh, right. I've got a field behind me, so we quite often get a few mice. I don't know it always happens with the zinnias. They love it. Yeah and the sweet peas. Well I had a little chat with someone earlier who loves her potting shed and stuff and she said let me know how you get on with the dahlias because the slugs and snails I've never been able

to grow them. Right. So what do we do about that when we get to the stage of potting them in pots? So starting the daily is off like as we're doing. Yeah. Gives us a real head start from slugs and snails. What I would say I've been using the last two years is sheep's wool. Yeah. And I just break it up, put a bit of, it's actually called haughty wool. Yeah. And I wrap it round, this is the main stem of the pot haughty wall yeah and I wrap it round this is the main stem of the pot and the slugs don't like it at all fine okay so we could get some of that yeah definitely, copper rings as well they don't like copper, fine, there's loads of organic

natural ways of yes you could use beer, beer traps. So, yeah. Okay. So we can make some little beer traps once we plant them out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How long have we got, do you think, till we plant out? So, do they go into another pot? For daily years? Yeah. No. So, they'll just be in that pot till the end of April. Right, okay. And then we'll plant them out. Then we'll plant them out. Yeah. So, it won't be too long. It's all weather dependent.

Yeah, of course. So if there's no frost, you know, it might be a little bit earlier. Yeah. Or some people do plant them out a little bit earlier, but put a bit of frost protection over them. I know. At night. Right, okay. But then you're in and out, aren't you? Yeah. Let's keep them in the pot. Yeah, keep them in the pot. They're doing well though aren't they? Yeah, I was really pleased with them. Really pleased with them. And with the dahlias we'll do a little pinch, a little cutting,

which will make the stems from underneath multiply. But we'll do that nearer the time. Just before planting out we'll pinch them. You can tell me all about it. Fantastic. Right. I thoughting them give them a little cup fantastic, right I thought we'd just have a little listen to a few people and what they've been saying have a listen

well Matt, I don't know what I've turned into I've just had a delivery of some propagators propagators, I don't even know how you say them, and some seeds I don't know who I think I am, I don't even know where I'm going to put these propagators but I'm excited. I love flowers. I love potting up in the summer,

getting all my pots ready so I'm really looking forward to being able to have cut flowers in the house. I do feel like I'm a bit of an imposter because I don't know if I can actually do this, but we can only try. And the way that I'm feeling at the moment with my mental health and things, this can only be a positive. So wish me luck. I'll keep following and see how we all get on.

And hopefully everybody's garden is a bit full of nice flowers by the time the sunshine arrives. Keep up the good work and love you and your nieces. Yeah keep up the good work. Oh lovely. I even ordered some peonies seeds. They are my absolute favorites but they don't last very long but so I'm going to even try and grow my own hopefully fingers crossed I will succeed and I will be able to send you some photos amazing oh well good luck yeah brilliant isn't it yeah go girl she's gonna what's her name sorry I didn't

get her name you're gonna succeed they're gonna be amazing and also. And also, as we've just said, not being funny, you've come round, I've got some really nice ones, some have dried up. Yeah. So, you know, it is what it is. Some have taken, some haven't. I've done another few bits and pieces. A sweet piece, hopefully we can savour those because they were really dry, weren't they, this morning? Yeah. So we've watered those. But, you know, you're not going to, every seed you plant, get an amazing plant out of it are you? No. It's not gonna happen. No it's all trial and error as well. But for me I'm such a beginner, I'm completely from the beginning. Yeah but we all have us, like I only started five years ago. Yeah yeah of course. Yeah things do take, some don't and it's part of the journey. Yeah.

And then, you know, some of them are really going to flourish. Yes. Some of them might not so much. Yeah. I would like to get some more sweet peas though. Yeah. Just get a few more of those. Do you know what?

I would, we could even direct sow sweet peas this time of year. Yes. So maybe we get your forever container for your sweet peas. Yep. And we could direct sow them. Into a pot. Yeah. And what I direct sew them into a pot. Yeah and what I would say if we're going to do that keep them in a part sun area so maybe just there. Just there? Yeah. Like some kind of shade. You don't want to fry them. Yeah.

So maybe let's do that. Do you think we've, so at this time of year that's okay for sweet peas? Yeah direct sewing. Yeah. I think we direct sew. Okay. Just so they don't get too leggy. Yeah. They're really hardy as well. Yeah, okay. Let's do that. I'm gonna be doing some direct sowing of sweet peas. Oh, yeah. My garden as well.

Brilliant. Right, let's have a listen to this lady. Oh. Hi now, it's Jane. I'm just listening to your special edition on sowing seeds. I'm gonna follow the recommendations and do my own planting. I got a vegetable patch last year and planted some beetroot and beans and carrots and potatoes and different things like that. But what I wanted to say was I lost my mum

a couple of years ago to early onset dementia. I know you've discussed dementia on your podcast before because of fibro-wins, but what absolutely horrendous illness, the battles that I had with, you know, medical professionals to get support for her. And I don't think people realise that dementia is just, it's not just one condition, it's a massive umbrella describing multiple conditions. Anyway, I lost my mum and I got her a mum wreath for the funeral and I took a white rose out of it and put it in a vase when I got home. Anyway, it wilted and when I took it out I saw that it got little roots on the bottom. Anyway long story short I now have a rose bush from the white rose that I plucked from my mum's wreath when she passed

away. The only thing is it keeps getting a lot of green fly I'm not sure how to deal with that sort of naturally and safely but without killing the plant but anyway just thought I'd share that with you. But thank you, keep up the good work, love in the past, love in growing seeds and interaction with you. Thank you, bye. Oh isn't that lovely? So special. I think flowers are really quite an amazing thing through grief because when I lost my dad I had a lot of people buy me roses and I've planted all my roses out and I think of him when I'm you know when I see

them coming up now it really brings me comfort and joy. Yeah and the roses last so long don't they? And like without even realising Jane's grown a plant. That's just amazing. It was incidental. Great. That's really good. Listen to this. Hi Nat, just listening to your podcast at the garden centre. Love sweet peas myself. They remind me of my nan and gramps. Heading to the garden centre this weekend. Really informative. Pard, thank you so much. I know it's not a flower question, but when we plant carrots straight into the ground for example we find it hard to decipher what

are weeds we end up watering the weeds until we can see the carrots coming through are there any tips on how to keep the weeds away or a technique we can use to easily identify where the carrots are many thanks Danielle well you're asking the wrong person? What do you reckon Kara? So carrots, so I'm not a big veg grower but what I would say is do mulch. Mulching keeps the weeds at bay so probably mulching in the autumn or in the early spring and before you're actually sowing your seeds, your carrot seeds, yeah that will give a good start. So mulch?

Mulch, mulching. What is mulching? So it's a soil that will give a good start. So mulch? Mulch, mulching. What is mulching? So it's a soil conditioner. Right, okay. So you can get a farmyard mix or like a wood-based mix. So it really improves the soil that also acts as a weed suppressant. Right, okay. Oh good. Yeah. Oh there you go Danielle. Have a good. Yeah. Oh, there you go, Danielle. Have a good month. But there's lots of, um, gradually, there are lots of apps as well you can use to identify weeds if you're not sure. That's true. They're really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good.

But after a while it just comes natural. Well, if you've done that a few times, you'll know what was weed. You'll see, you'll learn, yeah. I mean, sometimes I end up growing a wheat, like a flowering wheat, just because I like the flower on it. Yeah, because some weeds are pretty, aren't they? Yeah, and I love the fact that nature's put that there. I've got quite a wild cottage garden. It's not everyone's taste. Don't do that if you're growing carrots. No, but yeah, no, you're all right though. My mum and dad's garden, my dad was very much get everything out and then he'd plant his little begonias and pansies every year.

You know, he'd buy everything and it'd be all, I mean it'd be beautiful, but there was nothing wild about it, you know. But it did look lovely. But then I love the wild flowers and the wild garden, particularly now for the insects and bees and butterflies because everything's so rare that we need to encourage them to be in our gardens, don't we? I had a lovely message here from Lauren in Essex. Well done Lauren. She said she was in Lidl using my bag as a basket. Very good. She's bought sweet peas in here,

cosmos and some strawberries. So that's really lovely. And it just shows you can get everything now from your supermarket, garden centres, can do online. But when you're doing, even when you're getting your milk and your bread, garden centres, can do online but when you're doing, even when you're getting your milk and your bread it's like oh there's a seed aisle there. Yeah it's so true, it's so good. I know Lidl and Aldi have even got like garden aisles now in stores. Oh you're going for, I mean do you talk about Aldi and Lidl? I mean you go in for a pint of milk and you come out with a wheelbarrow.

I know. Don't you? Or a dining table or something. Yeah and some plants that I don't know, dining table or something. Yeah, and some plants that you don't really need. It's great that shop. You save really loads of money, well do you? Because you've come home with four bins, a back massager. A potting bench.

I'd be upset. Alright, so shall we take these round? Bit of potting on, yeah. Should we do that? Have you got any pots? Of course I've got pots. Okay. To support sustainable food production,

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I love it. It's really rustic isn't it? Well you say that, it's all peeled off. I mean it makes me laugh now the old rustic benches because actually what it means is no one's sanded it down and painted it. Oh it's lovely. You could present Gardeners hold on this. Let me go and get the keys for the shed. Right. Let's ask Eliza if she fancies helping potting on some seeds. Let's see, can you imagine the reply? Hang on a minute. Eliza darling, just checking you don't want to do some potting on.

Don't fancy a bit of gardening with me. No? Okay. A look of disbelief. Let's get this shed open. How many plants do you think would be really good to have? Because like you said, I've got about five good cosmos. Five good cosmos. You've probably got another 12 inside, haven't you?

I don't know, have I? Yeah, you have. Because you sow got another 12 inside, haven't you? I don't know, have I? Yeah, you have, yeah. Cause you sowed another 12. Yeah, I have that on my window sill in the kitchen. Yeah. Yeah, so you've probably got another 12 there. Yeah. And is that quite a lot?

Like, I don't know the numbers, you know. Yeah, so one plant, one Cosmos plant will be about this big. Oh wow. Yeah. Full of flowers. So I only need five really. Five good ones. Yeah, it depends flowers. So I only need five really. Five good ones.

Yeah, it depends how much space you want to fill. There's always a space to fill. I mean, you know. In this part of the garden, that's what I was going to ask you. Obviously, it's part sun, part shade and that's most of the time because of where the sun sets and with the house. So could I put pots out here if I wanted to? Definitely. Yeah. Pots would work out here even though it doesn't get loads of sun. Yeah, you could have lovely containers of your cosmos out here. Yeah, okay good. You could even move your cold frame out here because how much... Is that full sun all day?

No. So how much... It's... you're right, there's quite a lot of sun out there. Yeah, that's my only worry, there's quite a lot of sun on it. But a few hours later, is it... How... It's full sun most of the time. Okay.

So you would move the cold frame? Because you can, I would probably move it... You don't want it in direct full sun when they're young. Young, fine. I love a chat with Marcus. Yeah, he's gonna hate me. I'll see what he says. But soon I've got some lovely wooden ones coming. Yeah, you've got some lovely wooden ones coming. So they were lovely the ones on that zest site, so they will be beautiful. So once they come I will do part sun part shade. Yeah and that works really well. Yeah. Where

you've got that zippy one now, yes, that works really well for your dahlias. Yeah. But then you could have one which is a little bit more sheltered. Yes. Still sun but sheltered and that could be for your new germinated seeds. Fine. The ones that have just germinated. Yeah. Yeah. just so we don't go into frying territory. You're upset with me aren't you? No, no it happened. And I think the key to watering from the bottom as well. Yeah well I'll tell you something, I didn't know that and I think you messaged me, it was one of those days I was busy and you put something like water from below or something and I was going gonna message you and say what do you

mean by that and then I didn't you know like you're busy with the kids yeah and I thought you meant just the soil or what have you and I didn't know you watered from the bottom I did not know that no so there you go yeah it's what it is now we can use these are great great. These black pansies come in these. Yeah, I think so. No, I think Mark's been planting his garden railway, you see. Oh, right. So these are miniature conifers and things like that. Oh, yeah.

Or some creeping timer in them, whatever. Yeah, these are really good for potting on, aren't they? Okay. And you've got some little nine-centimeter pots. Yep. So we've got some, look look there's some compost over there if you want to grab it. Yeah. See we're quite organized aren't we? You're impressed. You've got your top soil in one pile, your bark. Right so when I did the potting on last weekend

yeah just stood and I was doing it I felt so relaxed. Did you? I really mean that I really enjoyed it. And did the girls do it with you? Yeah of course not. Joni was interested Joni put some stones I had a little bit of that and I said let's put it in the bottom of the pot for a little bit of drainage I just got a little bit at the bottom and then did the compost she was helping me actually I just got a little bit frightened of because they were so delicate, her actually helping me put them in. But she was out here with us and she really enjoyed it. Really enjoyed it. It's a lovely, like for me, time on my own. Just away from everyone, a little bit of meditation. I don't get it very often if I'm honest. No, absolutely not. For potting on have you got a fork or a dabber or let's have a look we can yeah so we can what sort of do you want a little fork should I go and get a kitchen fork? Yeah all this might work well a fork yeah that would work well but if you haven't

got something like this you could use a little fork works really well you just want to like gently I'll let you do it but you do the first one I'll put some of these in so I'd fill it completely in fill the container up and then make a little hole oh really yeah oh that was Mark's fault he said do it halfway well you could do it halfway depends if you want to to. No, I'll put it in the sink anyway. The thing is, it's finding the way that works best for you. Yeah. And some people like making holes, some people like doing it halfway. Yeah. With potting on. So. There's no right and wrong really. There's a little hole there. This seedling is a little bit leggy you can see so it's been reaching for the light. Yes. So the stem is a bit too long.

Right. So what we want to do actually is bury. Put it in here and bury it. So what we'll do we'll put it so the compost is probably I get it half way yeah and then we'll bury some of the longer stems. So we can try and keep it protected and so I know exactly what you mean keep it a bit sturdy. And actually some of these tall, with the really leggy ones, we might want to go with a deeper container. This is a nine centimeter. What should we do that for this one?

I think we'll do that with the leggy ones. Just so we can bury more of the stem. So I'll probably say these containers probably like five centimeters tall, aren't they? Six. So we'll probably go to the nine centimeter, ten centimeter. I see what you're saying and then bury around it. Yeah. Understood. And just be, when you're picking up the zinnia seedlings, just be really gentle because they don't like being transplanted at all and they can go into shock. Okay. Unlike cosmos who don't care

they're really they don't mind being split apart if it's too close to one another but yeah they don't like to be root disturbed so just be really gentle with them. Okay. Right go on, you can cut. I'll do the... Do you want to do another lucky one? I'll do some as well. Do you want to do another leg with her? I'll do some as well. So how long was you potting on for the other day? Just the ones you've seen in there, probably about... Was that the weekend, wasn't it? 14 minutes, I mean, not too long. Oh, wow.

Sometimes, the time I get carried away, I'm like, oh, I'm just going to do some potting on before I know it's like three hours. Really? Yeah, but what are you potting on for three hours? You must have some, innit? I see another job to do in three hours. Really? But what are you potting on for three hours? You must have some, innit? I see another job to do in the garden. Oh, I see. Oh, I sow some more of them.

Yeah, yeah. How's that looking? I've buried that right down. Yeah, that's good. Is that okay? Yeah, and then we'll give it a water. Yeah, okay. We'll put them all on and we'll do the watering last, if you like. Is that okay?

Yeah. Would I put that in a tray and water it? Or are we okay to water the soil from the top there? You can put it in a tray, yes water from the bottom would be great because if you've got a tray, we can water from the bottom. Now really we're meant to sow zinnias one per cell so this one might not take but we'll have a go. The roots aren't too close. I hate throwing seedlings away. Some professional growers might just throw that seedling away

because it was too close, but fine. Let's have a go. Let's give it a go. It doesn't take. Yeah, so we've hid about half of that longer stem, haven't we, buried it? So you're going to sow any more flowers? Would you say more like you've sowed you've got everything? No I think I would like to sow some more I don't know what yet. I was gonna ask you about win strong

flowers because now I've got my new fence it's a really really windy open space okay so I can't really have anything that's too delicate. Yeah. Because it'll just break. It'll just melt. Yeah. So I was gonna ask your advice for maybe putting straight into a bed in three or four weeks time. Yeah. And what would you suggest or should I just go more sort of sturdy shrubs? Is it really really windy? Really really windy. I'd probably go more shrubs. The thing is plants do climatise, they do get can get used to the conditions if you plant them out young. Yep. And I have got some cosmos in some

of my borders at home and they get a lot of wind. Really? I could pop a few seeds in direct and see, couldn't I? You could do, yeah. Yeah, and especially if you direct sow them, so you scatter some seeds into the forever home soil. I'm trying to be really careful with this. Yeah, what sort of look are you looking at? Like, with with shrubs what about roses or is that a bit

too cool? yeah no I could have some roses over there I could um I just didn't know if there were any sort of sturdy sturdy annuals sturdy annuals or you know I didn't know well you know sometimes you see fox gloves or and I didn't know if they were sturdy because I always find those in bouquets, they're quite strong. Yeah, they can be quite sturdy, but if it's really windy, is it full sun? Yes. Okay, so you probably wouldn't want fox gloves, they want a little bit of shade. Yeah, we get them. Well, maybe we'll have a little look and

a little think about it. Yeah. If there's a plant you really like, you could try it. Just put it in. Try it. If it doesn't work. Yeah. What you could do is a low growing cosmos. Yes. So a compact. So that's what I think. Yeah. As long as that thing is too tall and the wind's not going to catch it, it might be okay. Yeah, so maybe sow some low growing compact cosmos. But they still go up to 60 centimeters, which is still very high. So you'll still get that impact of color and flowers and it'd be great for the pollinators, bees and

butterflies. Could you help me with this because there's two in here. Yep. And I'm scared. So you want to put your, say this is a little fork in and let's use that one. Yep, I did that but go on. They are quite far away from each other though aren't they which is good. from each other though aren't they which is good yeah yeah should we take this is a leggy one again so I'm gonna use one of these pots so you don't really want to touch the roots no okay pick it up by its true leaves if you do have to pick it up don't do that oh she's done it now don't do that while I've dropped it. Oh she's done it now. Yeah so if some of these zinnias don't take it's just because there was two per cell and their roots might have been touching a little bit but they look nice and healthy don't they? Oh yeah they do till I try them

in the... Well what't. You could always... So these are going to go probably on the bottom shelf. Yep. Just make sure these haven't got full sun. I won't. Because these are all new aren't they? Yeah. We're watering them from the bottom, so we'll put them on the tray now.

I need to find someone to come and look after them. When I wear away for a week. I'm really worried about it. I've got rabbits to feed, seeds to fancy moving in for a week. Where are you going? We're off to Cornwall. It, lovely. It's going to be really lovely, yeah. Will you get up really early? Yes. Yeah. It's good. I love chucking the kids in the car early.

An adventure. You can't beat an adventure. There's so many beautiful parks in the UK as well. Oh, aren't there? Yeah. I know that we, I mean, listen, I'm famous for telling everyone. I'm not really fussed about getting on a plane I'm never really worried. It's all the faff isn't it that comes with flying sometimes. Yeah and I do just love getting in the car and yeah packing the bags. You know what I want to do? I want to hire a camper van and like travel

well I would like to do the UK to start and then maybe do France and Italy. Yeah beautiful. and then maybe do France and Italy. Beautiful. Yeah. Beautiful. I always see. And the Euro camps, they look great as well. I've been looking at them. Do they look good?

Yeah, you've got like the sort of center parks, sort of swimming pools and shoots and things, which the young kids love. Kids love, don't they? I feel like mine are getting a bit older now. Yeah, they're a bit older for that. Listen, they love a swimming pool, don't they? They still love a pool.

Yeah. But I feel like we are getting to an age now I'd, they're a bit older for that. Listen, they love a swimming pool, don't they? They still love a pool. Yeah. But I feel like we are getting to an age now, I'd quite like to, I don't know. Relax. Relax. But also I was thinking of, you know, so later on in the year, going to sort of Norway or Switzerland, you know, just doing something a bit different, you know? I feel like they're getting to an age where we can start having a little explore. And maybe I need to do that as well, because I am a bit boring when it comes to the holidays. Yeah. I'm very adventurous.

No, I like, do you know what, I love being a bit spontaneous. Like last weekend I looked at the weather. Yeah. And I said to my husband, let's, why don't we just go away for the weekend? So we booked the day before, we just went to Dorset for the weekend. Brilliant. That was nice. Yeah, it was a nice just break and just sometimes I can get a bit stressed of the organisation of going away. Yes. But sometimes when it's really fast approaching it's like, right, let's quickly pack, let's just go.

Well that's because you're not thinking about it. You can't let yourself think it. There's no time. No. That's why they say there's no point thinking about yesterday. No. And there's no point thinking about tomorrow. Yeah.

We've just got to do what we're doing here. And life's so precious. It is so, so precious. I just think, do you know what? Let's make some nice memories. Get out. Let's not focus on, so at home we've got a few renovations going on.

Like our flooring is half done. Yeah. Something, our fence has blown away a little bit in the garden. So there's like a whole list of DIY jobs. Are you good at DIY? Do you do that? A little bit. Yeah, Adam does do it, but it's fine in the time. Of course, with everything else. In between work to think, oh yeah, we'll finish the paneling that we started there, finish the flooring. So yeah, it's nice sometimes just to get away.

But also, I know that I'm boring, but you know what I say to you? Yeah. How lucky are you to have your own home? Oh, so blessed. And to have DIY jobs to do. Oh, exactly. Do you know what I mean?

That's what you've got to do. You've always got to think of the positive behind it. Oh no, like, yeah, and I always say to my children we are so blessed to have a house over our head. Yeah, food on the table. Dinner on the table and no we're so blessed. But it is easy, it's easy to get anxious and pet up about all the things we need to do. Even to have window seals. I know. Like, yeah, when I went to Romania in February, I was doing seed sowing with some of the children.

And some of the children don't have, obviously they don't have gardens, but even a window seal. And I came home and I was trying to work out how these seeds would germinate without the window seal. And I came home and I was trying to work out how these seeds would germinate without the window seal. And thankfully they do have window seals at the children's centers, but actually in their homes, they quite often don't.

I felt so, yeah, it's humbled. Yeah. It's an amazing thing. I remember my brother David and Linda going on a trip. My brother, through work, went on a trip, I believe it was to South Africa. And they took some little things for the children, you know. They went and visited some children. And they took a little mirror.

And they'd never ever seen a mirror before. They'd never seen a reflection of themselves before. And I think they took a little mirror and they've never ever seen a mirror before they'd never seen a reflection of themselves before I think I took a little bouncy ball or something and it was like giving them just the earth Like when you think what our kids have yeah, we have and we still want to keep wanting more We still want more more more more more or what we get worried about I'll get worried about or I get annoyed and think oh well I'm doing this pod review today, not that I'm not annoyed about doing the pod but I've got to do that, yeah, have I got everything, and I've got to do that, and I think how lucky am I to be this busy?

Yeah, yeah. So it's all again relative and don't get me wrong we are allowed to feel stressed, yeah it's natural, yeah, you are going to be stressed but Yeah it's natural yeah. You are gonna be stressed but it's good to try and take a deep breath. Yeah and just say yeah. How's that looking? That's looking good. We'll water them from the bottom. We've got about six small there. Come on let's do this. Look we've got perfect. And they're small aren't they so should we do it in here? Yeah they're not too small, aren't they? So should we do it in here? Yeah, they're not too leggy, that's perfect. They're not too bad, are they? When I was in Romania, there was a comeback from the garden centre with all these garden supplies to create this garden in the children's centre

and there was one young boy and he was being brought up by his two sisters, his parents weren't on the scene. And he was also blind, so he's playing with these bricks. And through a translator, got to tell him about the garden we was creating and the roses that we just bought. And I said to him, we've chosen fragrant, really high-fragrant roses.

And his face, it was such joy, like, he was like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, like, because I couldn't like he was like blah blah blah blah blah like because I couldn't yeah and he was just so excited to smell the roses and how amazing is that yeah and I don't think he's really smelled roses before no no so that's incredible that must have absolutely loved that treat what a brilliant thing to do yeah no I can't that there was a few moments where I just had to walk off and just sit aside to take it in. I'm sure. But they were so joyous and hopeful. Like, they weren't complaining.

No, they weren't. About how little they had. Of course, of course. And when we got, when I got the compost out for so long that I was doing, I've never seen so much excitement over compost. No. But I've realised that they probably not, you know, compost is, yeah, it's, yeah. Well you just don't realise what they don't have. No.

We take so much for granted, don't we? Yeah, but growing is such a, we've said that before, it kind of takes us away from our troubles and growing the beautiful creations. Are you planning on doing lots of flowers this year? What are you planning to do? Are you doing anything at the lots of flowers this year? What are you planning on doing? Are you doing anything at the Chelsea Flower Show this year? I'm attending. I'm not doing anything at Chelsea. Maybe one day, but what am I doing? So I've got some workshops at some flower shows.

Not yet announced yet, so I can't really... No, fair enough. It'll be announced soon. Brilliant. So people can book on online once soon as that's announced and we're making it a really luxury experience of growing flowers this year. Okay. So there'll be there'll be loads of ideas of... so it'll be like a marquee full of flowers. Right. So if you're sowing the sweet peas or larkspur, you know, there'll be planters full of that plant. You know, you'll see some cosmos next to it.

Oh, I like that variety. There'll be drinks as well. So you can get a glass of Prosecco or non-alcoholic. Oh, amazing. Where is it? Oh, well I'll, you need to- Yeah, so it'll be announced soon, that one. Brilliant,. Once that all comes out you'll have to let me know. Yeah you'll have to come down. I know.

You'll have to see if I'm free and that would be really lovely to come along to. Yeah so there's a few different workshops like that and I've been doing some flower sew alongs with the RHS team teaching workers of Colchester Hospital and I think Ipswich Hospital how to grow flowers. That's mainly been online but we've got a lovely one this month for spring wellness day. So any workers listening of Colchester Hospital we're going to be in Adam's Frost. Adam Frost designed a beautiful garden at Colchester Hospital. Right. So there's a whole day dedicated to spring wellness so I'll be there. Brilliant. We're going to be sowing lots of seeds and anyone that has

been growing online you can bring your little seedlings and pot them on. That's brilliant. Yeah so I'm really looking forward to that. So you're really busy, you've got loads going on. Yeah there's some nice projects like that going on and then I've got planting design projects as well. That's great. Yeah I love growing and I don't do as much TV anymore. Yeah, I love, I love, I love growing. Of course. So I'm trying, I don't do as much TV anymore. It's, there's still a little bit of art directing, but yeah. Yeah.

We'll see. But I mean, to be in a studio in the dark all day. Oh, I know. You can't compare it. I mean, it is a complete opposite. So Cara was an art director. I know I've said it before. She was a brilliant one at that,

and that's where we met on EastEnders, but you think about the studio. I mean, we had a lovely, it's a lovely job to have, again. Very grateful, but standing here talking to you in the sunshine. And I went back the other week, I ended up talking about plants. Did you?

I was there with everyone. Yeah, it's like family there, so a lot of people know what you're up to anyway. Yes. And you get to have nice conversations. And it was a bit of a fish and chips scene because the fish and chips didn't arrive in time. Oh no.

Oh no. No, they got there just before we were ever taken. Brilliant. Perfect. No, I love it. And I still do the community gardening. Yes. And this week is actually community gardening week. Really? Yeah so it's not very well advertised actually. Well it might a little bit but so I only really got into community gardening

the last two years. Yeah. And so I used to do meet up sew alongs. Yep. So we'd meet at the same time, place each week, sow seeds, we'd have different flower focus each week. That was in Great Dunmo. Now we've designed a little community garden in Dunmo. So last week we was cutting back, it was a little bit later but it was the only date we could do. Yeah. We was cutting back all the old perennials and mulching the ground. It was such a joy. It was, yeah, a lot of... Lovely to see everyone and... Yeah, quite a few new faces came.

Oh, that's good. A few from the council came and... Can I ask you about this soil? Yep. Can I attract that back in there or would you not do that? I don't know, when we've finished, we've potted on, what would you do with that? Would you just put it by the roses or just chuck it on the garden? Yeah, I mean, how old... this is probably only two weeks old, isn't it?

Yeah, I just wondered what you would do. Yeah, I normally have a little bucket and I kind of, so when I do my planting out, I would use it for that. So, but you could put it in the compost. They're still going to germinate. Right. Might have a little bit less nutrition, but yeah, I'd maybe put it back in the bag. Yeah.

Yeah. That's fine. Yeah, reuse all your compost. Yeah, yeah. So, even when like you're changing your containers,, I have an area in the garden, also a big tub, where I just throw used compost. You know when it's got all those roots in? Yes.

So put that at the back of your garden and just use that as a little compost area. Gradually, the worms will kind of eat through those yes i know what you're saying what we've got a composter oh you have a little composter that mark made oh so we chuck our food in there no we're not but you are i don't know how that's going have you got a wormary as well no we haven't got a wormary there's a lot of worms though i planted a little shrub that i bought um nicki i'll show you in a minute it's in the rose garden okay just sort of be nice the worms in that soil thought, oh this is good, it's like loads and loads, so that was good. Yeah, don't throw any compost away, you can always reuse. And you know what, if you can't get to the garden centre and buy compost, you can use, if it's fine or you

sieve it, you could use a bit of sort of some of your garden soil yes of course I done that in the lockdown and it did work yeah there is just just using what you've got what you can yeah now you have to show me your little rose garden I'd love to see that I'm gonna show you yeah I've got really into roses probably the last two years I love roses so many stunning varieties yeah beautiful oh I love roses. There's so many stunning varieties. Yeah, beautiful. Oh, I love David Austin bringing out a new rose each year. Yeah, they're gorgeous.

Yeah. Brilliant. So we're going to have to water these. Put them all in water. Yeah, watering from the bottom. And while we water them, it's important to kind of have them in the shade. Yep. Not in direct direct sun because they can go into shock. Okay, so we could actually just leave them here while we water them. Yeah, let me

get a little can. So have you got any more jobs to do in the garden? Have you got to add any more? Oh well there's loads to do. We've got a gardener, we have to have a gardener to keep the maintenance because there's no way that's happening. Yeah. So that's really good. Hang on, let me just get some water out of my... So is that water bath? Oh brilliant. Yeah. So all these seedlings, all these flowers that we're growing, they really benefit from rainwater. Yeah. Because with tap water, obviously it's got chemical in which can, you know, there's studies that have proven that rainwater is best. Of course, we use rainwater all the time. Yeah. Two or three butts around the garden. Oh wow, that's really good.

There we go. And even when you're cutting your flowers, rainwater, because the chemical in tap water. Yep. Right, so how are we going to water? We need these, we need trays for these, don't we? Yeah, so I'd say just under an inch. That should, yeah. Yeah, that should do, yeah. I'll message you later saying, did you bring the zinnias back in?

Oh no, no I will. I'll make sure. But I'll probably, I'll leave them out saying, did you bring the zinnias back in? Oh no, no I will, I'll make sure. But I'll probably, I'll leave them out here for a little while. Yeah, you don't want to soak them too long. But I'll probably put, I might put them, so once I've soaked them. Yeah, leave them there for an hour or so and then. If I pop them in there, I'll pop them still in their trays and I'm still watering from below when I put them in the cold frame.

Yeah, when you put them in the cold frame, yeah. Right, okay. trays and I'm still watering from below when I put them in the cold frame. Yeah, when you put them in the cold frame. If it's too sunny, sometimes it's probably best to water to start the day. Yes. Or in the afternoon when the sun's gone down. Absolutely. Brilliant. You'll do the same with the cosmos.

I think maybe a week or so with the cosmos. Okay. you'll do the same with a cosmos I think maybe a week or so with a cosmos okay you could probably put some of them on but just wait until they've got those true leaves I'll try and I'll probably have a little stronger yeah and I'll probably try and have a look at those before I go to Cornwall yeah and then you know that and you know what's, because you're going away, you could always move the whole cold frame into a not so sunny... No, fine. Sort of there-ish. Yeah, just so they don't fry.

But someone is going to come and water. Yeah, someone's going to water them anyway. It's going to be alright. Yeah, they'll be fine. This is the rose garden, darling. Oh, lovely. So this is the famous rose, the Evelyn Rose that my dad brought here that he had in his garden. Yeah. But we've had to cut it right back. It was really bad last year with the, what do you call it, the green flying stuff. It was black spot

as well. Black spot and all of that. So we've cut it right back. The new growth looks really good doesn't it? It does look good doesn't it? I have one over here. Oh that's lovely. This is a beautiful rose bush. Oh I love the trees. My brother David bought me this one and it's a wild rose, it's beautiful. Oh is that like the cluster roses? Yeah. Oh beautiful. Be careful it's really spiky that one. This is Sweet Dreams, it's like a little mini rose again like that one. That's the little shrub that I potted out, needs a water. I might put a bit. Still be here. So once all these flower heads, you can cut these back. Oh yeah. And then it will start growing new flowers. Ah. I could probably do that now. Can we do that? Yeah, let's do that. You've got a peony here, haven't you?

Yes. Has that flowered yet? No, never flowered. It might be the year. They can take two to three years, can't they? I was gonna say I planted that a couple of years ago. So let's see. So it might be, yeah. Yeah, so I'd cut them right back to the the bottom, so probably to there. Yeah, so just underneath, yeah, just so here.

Here. Just above the leaf, yeah. And that one probably to there. that one probably to there. On your fingers. Yes, we do that to them and then... I wonder if that... They might take a little while. They do need quite a bit of water in a steel bead. Right. It's looking healthy, isn't it?

Oh. Get it in the ground. Have a go. What else have you got coming out, Hessa? Oh, you've got Acrylidia. Yeah, I like that. Do you? Yeah, they're lovely. They just come each year, don't they? You don't have to-

Yeah, it's really easy. Jackie told me about that. I think Jackie might have even gave me some of that from her garden. Does it sell seed? Yeah. Yeah, I love them. I love them. They're easy to grow from seed as well but you've got it in the garden so it'll just... Yeah. What

you could do is just sow a few little like Nigella, that could be lovely. Loving a mist? Yes I know what. I know you like the white because they've got a really lovely white variety. There's lots of room in this bed. Yeah. See, I thought we could put the sweet peas here. Yeah, that would work. Yes. It won't get strange with the clematis, will it? Clematis, whatever you call it. Well, it's quite high, thematis though. Yeah. Yeah. I think I can keep an eye on it and just move it. Yeah. I thought the sweet peas might be nice here. Yeah, yeah definitely.

I will do that then. Yeah, you've got the trellis. Yeah, so we just need to get you some more seeds don't we? That's alright, I can do that yeah. Also poppies are really nice but they only last a little while. Yeah again. Where it's Nigella they keep coming. This is a beautiful fuchsia. That should be coming up soon. Yeah you can normally see if you touch that. Yeah it's got some new growth there. It's lovely. Jackie bought me that. Marked it on.

But all my roses are... Yeah, that's Charlie's Rose. Look at it. It's one of my most robust. It's really healthy. Yeah. So it's from my dad's name, Charlie's Rose. But it's funny how that one is so... Just put it in the ground and it's really strong and it makes me feel like it's him, do you know what I mean? Oh, and this one, that's lovely. Yeah, it's lovely this one, isn't it? This one is, I don't know, yeah, thinking of you. I don't know, I think that's just, oh no, that's just the, I can't remember if that was

peace. I had a Charlie's rose and then I think I did have another Charlie but it was a different one. I can't remember. Yeah, different guaros. Yeah. Oh, gorgeous. You could definitely direct so some manuals in. I think so. Yeah,. You could even add some of your cosmos in here. Yeah. Yeah, could, could I? Yeah. Yeah. The only thing I don't want to do, I know it sounds stupid, but I love this being the

roses. Yeah, that is the roses. I have put that in. Yeah. So I think the sweet peas at the back would be nice. Yeah. But I don't like over- Over-crowding your roses.

Over-crowding your roses. Yeah. No. But there is room. I have got room, I don't like over- Over-crowding your roses. Yeah. No. But there is room. I have got room, I don't know. Yeah. And then what's really good for roses, salvia is, because it helps the soil. Oh, really? Yeah. So there's some plants you can add, which are really good companion planting. So salvia, you've got some really beautiful white flowers. We're going to have to write that down in a minute because I'll do that. Yeah. We'll get you some nice salvia, you've got some really beautiful white flowers. We're gonna have to write that down in a minute because I'll do that. Yeah, we'll get you some nice salvia's and they're not too high.

So the salvia flowers could come up to about here. Right, okay, that's fine. So you're not seeing the soil. And I could just dot those around, cutting on the other roses if they help them. Brilliant. I've got a really nice one called aquamarine. It's like a really soft lilac.

Oh, that sounds nice. It kicks off the rose. Yeah. Brilliant. Hi, Nat. Charlie here in Norwich. Just been listening to your episode with Kara from the sew along.

It's really nice to hear Kara. I know her and her younger sister. They're a really lovely family. So it's great to hear that she's doing well and she's clearly very passionate about it. I will be starting to action my sweet pea growing method from Kara's pod. Although when I've tried before, it's been a bit of a flop. So hopefully this time it'll work. I've just ordered the right equipment and I really like the sound of those wall pots. So we'll feed back and see if I can manage it. Also wanted to just jump on and say it is definitely a close error not a close horse. I feel like that's a

separate thing. I don't know why but yeah definitely an error and also need to know what error it is you're talking about but yeah keep it all up and lovely seeing you every week. Oh thank you so much. Oh lovely to hear from you Charlie. Oh that's so lovely. Charlie's mother-in-law is my mum's one of her best friends. Oh that's so lovely. I can't think Charlie in ages. Isn't that nice though? She's listening along. Oh I love that.

It's brilliant. It's so special about all growing along together. So we're doing it together. We are. Yeah. If I have any left. You are. No it's alright. We We're gonna get there.

We're gonna sew more. We're gonna sew more sweet peas. We're gonna do a few more cosmos I think. Yeah I think so. But we'll see what we've got in there. I might do some more. Yeah. We'll have a little look. That's brilliant. Oh thank you. Oh no thank you so much. I'm so excited. I'm excited. When the flowers are here I will have to do like a little arrangement. Oh my god. I'm so excited for it. Yeah. You know, I've always wanted to work in a florist. Have you?

Yeah. That standing all day arranging flowers. Yeah. And I have to say, I know that the three, the five, it being odds, better, the green way, but I do love doing it. Yeah. I'm not bad at it. So I'm looking forward to that, that stage.

Yeah. That's what I was going to ask you, with the flowers and the cutting, should we be planting something which is for the greenery side of a vase? Yeah, we could do. What would you recommend? Because I'd quite like to do, like have, you know, the ferny bit, you know, a bit of fern, you know what I mean, the leaves, the green. Can you do the jip? Jip Zuffola.

Yeah. Yeah, that with the white flowers. Yeah. Yeah so that's really good to sow now. I sow mine direct sow into containers. Right. But what else is nice and green? Green. You know what there's there's even herbs that are really good like mint and dill. Yeah there's a huge. I'm going to have a little look. Yeah, I used a lot of dill last year and it was stunning. Did it? Yeah, because it's quite feathery isn't it? Yeah, there's, I mean you could grow it like a lot of people use eucalyptus but there's a lot of that you could grow from seed. Yeah, okay. Well we'll have a think about it. Maybe we can get some, do some foliage.

Yeah. I would like to do some foliage. Yeah. Because I like the green. I think it's lovely to put a bit of green in. Especially if you're making a bouquet for someone. Yeah, no, you need it. It's lovely.

But quite, you've got a lot of evergreen around you. Do you know what? That is so true. You're surrounded. So... Yeah, that is so true. You know, you could cut back a lot. What the rule is, once it rule is if it's a flowering

shrub, if you cut it once after it's flowered, because you could make use of a lot of it. Yeah I didn't even think about what I'm surrounded by. That's so true. No, but you don't really. No. You can forage a lot. Brilliant. All right, my darling, well. Oh, no thank you. Thank you. I hope you've all enjoyed this lovely relaxing pod. Remember this will be out on a Sunday

so as not to get in the way of all the other pods in case you're not interested in flowers and that's fine too, you know that, but I'm gonna pop this out on a Sunday. But everyone seems to love it. So thank you so much. And we'll be back in four to six weeks time, about a month's time to see where we are. Definitely and what I would say I've had a few questions people saying oh can I grow along but I didn't start the other week and you can

grow along at any point if you've missed that ep. Doesn't matter does it? It's not growing now. Yeah, just start sewing. Yeah. There's no right or wrong. No, but April is probably the end of April. You've got till now for the end of April to get sewing. Brilliant, perfect. I'm excited. Right, see you later darling, and thanks for listening.

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