Life with Nat - EP121: Nat's Nieces #20

Episode Date: June 1, 2025

Rocketing through the chat, covering bra & pyjama choices and maintenance, what we're watching on TV, a bit of dinner, and taking the gamble on a gift xx Please subscribe, follow, and leave a review. xxx You can find us in all places here; ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podfollow.com/lifewithnat/view⁠⁠⁠⁠ INSTA: @natcass1 A 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠ SHOW INFO: Life with Nat - it’s me! Natalie Cassidy and I’ll be chatting away to family, friends and most importantly YOU. I want to pick people's brains on the subjects that I care about- whether that’s where all the odd socks go, weight and food or kids on phones. Each week I will be letting you into my life as i chat about my week, share my thoughts on the mundane happenings as well as the serious. I have grown up in the public eye and have never changed because of it. Life with Nat is the podcast for proper people. Come join the community. ♥️ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Correct. Do we need the lights? They're very bright. Oh no, in your face. I can't see. Or we could just pop them. No, turn it off. Just turn it off.

Oh wow, we'll sit in the dark. We'll sit in the dark. Got your buttons. Relax, don't do weird. Frankie goes to Hollywood. Oh lovely. That's better. Oh that's nice.

What a lovely little atmosphere in here. A lovely calm environment. After the day we've had. I feel exhausted. Why have you had a bad day? No, just chaos. Kids and it's half term. And inside we resulted to play in Auntie Birdie come up with a very good idea. Also I realised. Go on. It's 2025. I think it's Sleeping Lions. I thought the same thing.

We're still calling it Dead Lions. Dead Lions. And then they're going... And actually shooting the kids down. They're like, shoot dead. They're like, kill me. We're like, poof, poof. We were so gone. I think it's alright.

It's like Cowboys and Indians. I bought Alfie a gun for Christmas. We're all good. A pretend one. But he loved it. But else, didn't we? We both went, three, two, one, dead. And we both did it at the same time.

We were so past it that anything could have been, but yeah, it was just a lot. A lot, I'm busy today. And I've cooked. And so for all those people that said about the dinners. Here we go. I made a shepherd's pie, one for me and Jack tonight, one for the baby.

Also have already batch cooked two things this week. Could I just dig into the shepherd's pie for a moment? I know. Are you doing a separate one because of the amount of salt you put in your food? It's not the salt, it's the oxo. She puts about 20 oxo cubes in. Just to make sure it's beefy.

So yes, separate parsnip mash for his, normal mash for mine. Nice. Made him a broccoli and cauliflower and leek gratin the other day when Eliza was with me. Oh for fuck's sake. Chicken stew. I've not stopped.

All I have done this week is cook. So I've done all this. Maria made a pastina last night. Nice to be cooking every day. And yeah, then gave it to him for dinner and he didn't eat it. Welcome to our world. So do you know what he had? An Ella's Kitchen pouch.

And he smashed it down. He did. I said to Ellie, I said, isn't it funny when you say, you know, they're going to eat what I cook. But you don't, you know, the only thing I will say, it's not to do with that. It's to do with the texture. He's not good with lumps. We're not there.

I keep trying to make lumpy things that he doesn't want it. So tomorrow I'm just going to get all of it and just puree it all to complete cream. Are you going to do that then with a shepherd's pie puree it down? Well, no, because it's all in the freezer now. Ruby enjoyed it though. She loved it. She was eating my one.

I love a shepherd's pie. We had it Saturday. But Mark makes a banging shepherd's pie to be fair. A shepherd's pie on a Thursday when it's really quite warm out. It's random. Again, I was shocked by the situation. I know, but it was because I wanted to make the baby one. I should have just made him

one. It's more of a Sunday dinner, isn't it? Yes, I know, but it's done. No, it's done. So when I get home, oven on, dinner's done. What veg do you have with it? Broccoli and cauliflower. Yeah, beautiful.

I would have loved a cauliflower cheese. You can't beat that with a shepherd's pie. Oh no, it's too much going on. No, but the cheese sauce goes in with the gravy. No, do you want shepherd's pie for me? No, Bramston pickle. Massive portion, but massive. With Bramston pickle? Fuck.

Massive portion. I love shepherd's pie. I'll have double the portion that you usually have. Dry as a bone with loads of Bramston pickle on it. That is weird. That is the weirdest thing I've ever heard in my life. And it was Mark's dad, Wonderful Rog, who introduced me to that and it is unbelievable. Pickle and then I just want 15 tonnes of peas. Dry. Brilliant dinner. Sounds gross. I put peas in my shepherd's pie. Yeah,

sometimes. Well, that's, is that, well actually mine is in a shepherd's pie. Mine's a cottage pie. Mine isn't a shepherd's pie, mine's a cottage pie. Yes, I understand. And I prefer beef. Jinx. What? Jinx. Jinx again. Double jinx.

So good fun, so great fun. Yeah, I'm not bothered about loads of veg. If you're putting peas and carrots in it. No, I like the veg with the gravy. But I like the idea of a, I like the cheese with it. I'm going to whip one out because again, let me just tell you a little secret. So when I was making, I know we'll stop talking about food. People love it.

When I made the broccoli and cauliflower. You love it. Like basically a broccoli and cauliflower cheese for him. I thought, oh, I've got to make whole roux and all. Like that's a lot for a kid that don't know what's going on. Danny LaRue. Oh, what was that singer called? LaRue.

Oh, was that just her name? Great, great album. Such a good album. Great album. Billy Proof. Is that her? Yeah. Yeah, it's a great, great album. It's a great album though.

No, I know, but secret about that. Great summer album. One of my friends messaged me. We have definitely not, sorry, just going us you can tell we haven't spoken for a while together Reminded me my friend when when we went on our holiday, she listens to the pod She messaged me a little while ago and we were talking about it. I hadn't they used to add a mullet I had a really short bob and then she used to sing mullet approved to me. Ah, okay. So that's why it was quite funny.

Anyway, the roux, didn't make a roux. Milk, flour, butter, all in a pan, put the heat on, whisked it up. Unbelievable. In a frying? No, in a saucepan. Like you would make a special... She just didn't do the butter and the flour and make the roux. So you just botched it all in together?

Nah. And it was really good. If it can happen. What I'm saying, for your next cauliflower chase I think you should try it. I'll have a go. Breathe. She's over excited. We were quite lethargic but we've come in, it's sweating in here by the way, you're hyper

for once which is nice and also I haven't seen you since your birthday. Correct. That's mad. That's a long time. Oh no that's a lie. That is an absolute lie. So I forget. However. Why? Because I can't see. I have got to say that I've phoned you every day and you've not answered the phone. It's true. And she's on her phone permanently. No I'm not. You are. That's rude. But every day I've phoned her. Sometimes twice a day, I'm just going to put it out there. Sometimes thrice. Yeah, thrice. I've been busy.

I called you. You didn't answer. I've been texting and when you call me and I can't do it, I go, I'm sorry, I'm busy. I'm texting. I'll call you later. Nothing then, date. I could have been in a huge emergency. No, you're busy.

I know, I just thought you were going to start busting them about match. No, I just want to see how you are because I've not seen you. Oh, I'm not good. Look at my fucking face. You look beautiful to me. Thanks. Anyway, rewind. So much to get through.

You know you just went and breathe. Yeah. Need to talk to you. I think it's really important to talk about these things. Oh God. And no, I mean this. I want your advice. I had a very busy job, as you know, and I was away last week,

and it was quite a stressful, intense job. And since coming back, I feel extremely anxious. I'm fine. I'm absolutely fine, but I'm aware of my breathing. I feel very agitated. Why? Because, I don't know. Because you've not been around, so you feel...

Don't know, just asking for a friend. Maybe it's because you was on such a high intensity, do you know what I mean? Yeah. Working late, then socializing, and it's constant and your brain's on the go. Do you think so? Nervous energy.

Do you know what, I feel, one thing I think I can relate to and I think you're quite similar with. Yeah. You mentioned about like being with people and making connections and I think that has an impact. You know you're in this like intense bubble. Yes. All right you weren't in a bubble. People are gonna be like oh what's she done? But you're in this and

you're with these same people and then that goes. Maybe. And then I think that... Right, because you loved it so much. Yeah. It's a bit of sadness. Yeah. It's a bit of a come down, isn't it? But you know, and I know this is really weird, but I felt like that after granddad passed.

Because we were all together, we were all here, all the family, spending time with Uncle Tony relentlessly like we wouldn't normally. And then as mad as it was because it was a sad time, we had such a beautiful time together that after that it was, do you know what I mean? Yeah, it's a bit of a come down, I think you're right, maybe it's that. But I've got to jump straight into the college course, which I can talk about. I'm at the college every day. I'm with 16 and 17 year olds. They

are amazing. Brilliant to sit with them. Everyone has a go at youngsters. There's some cracking youngsters out there working really hard. Oh, that's good. We've done stuff with hoists. I've been in bed today. They've had to hoist me. I've learned about hoisting. And are they filming this part as well? They're filming all of it, yeah. So are they on film?

Yeah, they're all there. What and they're happy to be on? Yeah, yeah, they've been, you know, it's all been sorted, it's all safeguarded, properly done. Mad. So they're all on. But nice for them as well. Lovely for them. But learning about critical care, you know, long-term illness, we've done early years, we've done lots of neurodiversity yesterday which was absolutely amazing. We'll do a big pod, but I wanted to ask you, I really want to do a pod about care and I'd love to do it with you too. Because we're so caring.

No, but they would love to film it for the doc. Oh, that's cute. And just have a little bit of us in it because it's a little bit of my life. But also talking about me being a caring person and what you think and we love people throwing in about care or whatever. You'd be up for that. Amazing. I'd love you to be in it. It's like an amazing thing. It's something you've always been passionate about. It comes naturally, especially to both of you more so. Well I did what you've done. I did that for childcare, that qualification whilst I was

on the job yeah also it's just actually that is giving you life skills it's so important but we've had lots of shit news haven't we this week we've had a lot going on it's a lot. Not directly. We're hearing people around us going through such awful things yeah well we have got some direct like there's lots of those. Oh yeah, no, directing, you know, friends, people we know, whatever that is. And I don't even think you can say it's as you get older. I mean, I know it is as you get older, but it's just... Yeah, but you've had lots of stories, sort of from school or, you know... Yeah, you just hear so much.

You hear a lot, but it's a really eye-opening experience. And the course I'm doing touches, it's like a little bit of everything, from early years to palliative meeting the bereavement team. I think that's gonna be quite a hard one. The hospice is gonna be quite a difficult one, but Rick just really enjoying it, but it is intense. I tell you what, I'm fucking shattered girls. I bet. Because I'm not like that part of my brain. When have I ever sat in a classroom? Yeah.

It's hard with my book and taking notes. Hopefully when you were a child. No, she didn't. But don't you feel now though to be able to do it at an age where you can actually focus and it means more and you can... You're doing something that interests you. You're not pissing about with the people in class and a little bit. Having a little bit of a chat. Yeah, but you know.

But yeah, no, it's good. It's really, really good. Amazing. It's great. And how long you doing this for? For the next sort of eight, nine weeks, but it goes up. My good. It's really, really good. Amazing. And how long are you doing this for? For the next sort of eight, nine weeks. Oh, wow. But it goes up, my exam is actually January.

Blimey. So I've got to do all my assignments, you know, it's proper. And Cheryl, who's my sort of teacher, I'll have a bit of one-on-one with her, which she does with all of her students. There's nothing sort of out of the ordinary because of who I am or the telly show. And she's going to help me with the assignments. I've got a past exam paper to do over the weekend to see and she's gonna market see where my level yeah what if you fail it'll be really shocking real shame no

you won't but no it's really good well excellent stuff mm-hmm amazing good what was we were saying? Sorry, we completely digressed. We were talking about something at the start. What was that? We just completely went off on food. We were talking about holidays, the kids, school holidays. Half terms are hard work, aren't they? I mean, I'm not around much this week but you do feel guilty you do want them to do stuff all the time. Yeah and in my head I was like amazing I'm off. It's hard work. I thought if the weather's nice I might even nip up to seaside do a little Poltons gig but the weather's been very temperamental

didn't know what was going on. We went to Jurassic World. Oh, how was that? Disappointing. Yeah. Oh, that's a shame. Battersea Power Station, though. Oh. Oh, my goodness. Everyone said it's amazing, all the shopping and that. Amazing. What a beautiful place. That is so weird. Jamie Balfwick said, Christmas shopping, Battersea Power Station. I was like, really? Beautiful. But he goes, hello, Jamie. I think I saw signs. I don't know if they've got Zara and our favorite shop and all of that there but I think that's all opening but beautiful shopping centre.

Good place to just get. Just lovely place. It's a bit of a mission though isn't it? It is a bit of a mission yeah. But no we did the Jurassic World in Excel before and it was amazing. Same concept but it was smaller, more herds of people, timing, waiting around, it's just for kids, it's just a lot, isn't it?

Yeah. But it was all right. Nice to do something though. Yeah, it was nice. The kids enjoyed it. Until they were screaming at the end. They absolutely shit themselves at the end, crying and everything. So I was like, fantastic. Oh, I'm tired. Wait till Auntie Nat-Nat gets them up the London dungeons.

We'll have to take them away where we used to go all the time with granddad. I was so scared. That was so scary. Oh, don't. Yeah, no, we haven't done, like, we went out yesterday, didn't we? We did old soft play and shops and stuff. I went away. I had my first holiday. Oh, yeah, your holiday. My first holiday with the baby.

I have to say, just the little pictures of his little outfit. So he got a little tan. Oh, no, he did get a little tan. He did get a little tan. And he was, yeah, it was lovely. You have a really nice time. So nice. I think just being in the water, like he loves the water. Yeah. So in and out like three times a day or a couple of times a day you'd go in. Just lovely. What was the swimsuit situation? What do you mean? Because

you were like, do I do shorts? Oh yeah. Well you do? I did a couple of shorts. So we did go in in just shorts? Yes. Because your weather was... Yeah, the weather was good for a baby. In the sense that it wasn't ridiculously hot. Was you that glad, to be honest? No, no. Honestly, we had a couple of days of pure sun, but one particular day and it was hot.

And the sun was out and I thought, I'm glad it's not been like this. Because you're not just sat there all day like if it was just me and Jack. But don't you think it's mad how you've changed immediately? Because you would have been fuming. Imagine going away with the girls. No, she's never been a massive sun person. But more so now. But no, I would have been. If me and Jack had gone, yeah. You would have been a if me and Jack had gone, yeah, I think I'd have been a bit like, oh.

But yeah, you don't mind when. Well, no, it's just a bit of an easier life, isn't it? Not even to cream them up every two seconds. Yeah. That was like the vibe. Yeah, exactly. You know what? It's not that bad because the kids are not burning.

No, it was so lovely. We had a beautiful time. It was so good. So good on the plane. Like just, yeah, amazing. But we overpacked. Like crazy. Like, crazy.

But I think you do when it's your first time, you don't know, we bought loads of pouches of food, just in case. I mean, we went to a very good hotel for children in the sense that they cater for babies. They have purees for them. But again, you just don't know what they're going to be like. No, of course.

So yeah, we had everything. How many nappies did you bring? Oh my god. How many? Two packs of swim nappies and two packs of normal nappies. So not terrible. That's the one though. Yeah, the big packs.

I remember doing that. Just everything. Milk, loads of milk. It is 10 days, it's quite a long time. It's just the outfits. No, 10 days. It's the outfits, isn't it? But he did have a new outfit every single day because he would get them dirty. I think at that age, you've only got to take... I get it for maybe Alfie who puts a t-shirt on to go down to the pool and it's off and then he's not put it on again.

You'd be surprised. But what I mean is we've, you know, hit a little bit of sick on it or he's chewing on watermelon everywhere. So every single outfit, I think there was one night that he had it on for like an hour. But no, he went into a lovely routine, you know, at dinner he was able to sit with us, but then go to sleep in his pram. That's brilliant. Yeah, no, really, really lovely. Everything was yeah really good. And the inflatable was knocking about. Do you know what, funnily enough, I was waiting for the photo and I was trying, there was a girl that came with a

massive unicorn but it was more of a lilo and then the unicorn. Sounds... Not a rubber ring. Yep. So you could lay on it. No, that's what mine is. Oh, it was great. Yours is a rubber ring. No, it's not. Oh, I thought it was.

Sorry, what are you moaning about? What do you mean? Why are we ruining the unicorn rubber ring story? I'm absolutely gutted that it's a Lilo. It was a Lilo. So it wasn't a rubber ring? It's fucking huge, hey? It was a rubber ring for a giant. What? It looked like a ring to me. Did it have a hole in the middle? No, it's a round lilo. Oh, it's round. Wow. I thought it was a rubber ring. I'm devastated. No, that was the whole point. And I think our listeners are going to be absolutely devastated.

No, that was the point. You have been falling. My plans for the tour have gone out the window. No. I could just be carried on with the Lilo. But I was trying to get a photo, but clearly the child was just with the Lilo, and I thought, I can't do that. You were going to be like, one of them,

excuse me, can I borrow your Lilos? And then we had Tiddles the Turtle, which was really cute. Massive big turtle. But what was really nice is lots of different families had bought their Lilos and the kids were all just sharing, they were leaving them out. So we bought James that one where it's like a bit of a harness and they lay in it. I had one, didn't I? Yeah, I've got one. Perfect. Well, I'm glad that I bought it because like a bit of a harness and then laying it. I had one didn't I? I've got one.

Perfect. Well I'm glad that I bought it because he didn't use it. Because when we got there he started to sit up. So then there was another like a Zogs one, just an orange again another family. They kindly let us borrow it. Just a circle that he could sit in. Much better. Yeah.

So for that there was lots of things going on. yeah, there were a lot of Lilo's knocking about. Your nails look nice. Thank you. Do you like mine? What is going on? Look how long that... Yeah, what's happened to you?

Yeah, you're chipping. I'm chipping, but they've been on a blooming long time. I'm going to get mine done tomorrow morning, you said. I'm doing mine Saturday. I might do mine Saturday. Can't be arsed. Saturday morning. I know you've changed, you're tuned.

Well, I don't know. I'll see how tomorrow goes. I'm exhausted. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm gonna get mine done tomorrow morning. I'm doing mine Saturday. I might do mine Saturday. Can't be arsed. Saturday morning. I know you've changed, you're tuned. Well I don't know, I'll see how tomorrow goes. I'm exhausted, I just need a restful day.

I'm back to school guys. What time? Me? Yeah. I have to get there for about nine-ish. Oh god. Till four. Not all days.

I've got a meeting next Wednesday at half nine in London. I'm like, are you joking? How am I going to do that? You'll be all right. You'll be all right. The White Chocolate Macadamia Cream Cold Brew from Starbucks is made just the way you like it. Handcrafted cold foam topped with toasted cookie crumble.

It's a sweet summer twist on iced coffee. Your cold brew is ready at Starbucks. We had a fantastic message that we've got to change the subject with because I'm so excited to talk about it. Bra washing. That was from our lovely Kat, wanted me to ask, it's a very important topic to get lots of opinions on. Okay.

So, she asked if we could discuss bra washing. It's a brilliant, brilliant subject. We had this conversation of how I actually bought some bras with her, which can I add are the best bras I've ever worn. Sorry, who? What? What are you doing? What are you doing? Sorry, now I'm just looking for something. It's important. Go on. Bras from where?

I, with Kat. Oh. We went to M&S whenever it was, quite a while ago. And the bras, and you know what, you can get bras at like 30 quid, 40 quid. Of course. 10 pound. The best bra I've ever had. Fits love, it's just perfect. What, is it a bar? Is it a plunge? Is it a balcony? Yeah, what's the vibe? Like this? Like that? It's a tenner. And what I'm saying is you don't need to be spending a load of money on a bra. You don't need to really be, listen, you don't need to spend a lot of money on anything. You'll always get something for a really good price. No, but I find a bra is very important. Yeah, people spend a lot of money on bras.

I do find a bra. I've never got it. You've not, I don't think you need to. No, but this is the thing, before, flat-chested, I mean I used to try and wear bras, it was embarrassing. Then had the OP. Yep. Still never have got the whole bra thing. Just can't get used to it. I don't wear, well I do wear bras but I don't. I wear just the seamless things from Primark.

Perfect. Amazing, love them. Well not all of us can wear seamless. Some of us need a bit of support. Or a lot of support. But yeah what I was saying hers, I was still wearing mine, I was like, mine's great. She said, oh, mine's long gone. Oh, what do you mean? Because she's washing it all the time. So then we got onto that conversation. Right. Oh, God.

So go on. Here we go. Oh, no. I have got a lot of bras. You wear the same one. Very, very expensive bras. I've got a lot of bras. You wear the same one. Very, very expensive bras. I've got some Rigby Impala bras. I've been fitted.

Yes, that's mad. I've got some really lovely bras. I wear the same Marxist beige bra. I think I've- And I know the one. And me. I think I've had it. That is gross, Nat.

I think I've had it for possibly about eight, nine years. And I think I wear it every day. The last time this was washed, I'm going to say a month ago. That is crazy. And I am being honest. I wear it every day. And what I will do is if I've got a day at home, I will take the bra, goes in the wash, but I need to know that I'm not going in it because I want to wear it. So I'll be at home, I'll put another bra on, wash it through. But

because I've been busy, I haven't had the opportunity and I feel lost without it. Lost. And I'm sorry everybody, you're gonna call me a dirty bastard. 07788- 30 bit. 20 1919. But be honest, because I'm only being honest. Be honest with yourself. So I'll say that I don't know, because I never go, oh, I need to wash my bra. So I do that. Sometimes I'll just go, oh, same, the wash today. That could be a week, four weeks, six weeks.

I don't know. I don't, I do. But I'll take a bra off, put it in the drawer, put another bra on, put it in the drawer, put another, but oh, I'm not saying, I mean, I'm talking maybe like three, but they'll never be... The one? They'll never be, oh it's bra wash, you know it's been a week, wash the bra. It will just go in the wash one day when I can't be bothered to put it in the drawer.

Well the lady in Marks has actually said to me, oh you're very good aren't you, with your daughter, but we haven't seen you for a long while. I said I do need to pop in and get a little fitting. I don't want to. No, I don't like all that fitting stuff. Why? I've never got... It's very, very good for you. No, I don't wear the right set. I just shut up.

No, I know. Again, when I picked my new ones up of the old ones that I had, when I put them straight in my case, got on holiday, looked at them, the sizes on the actual bra were different to what were on the hangers. One had all the padding in the thing. And I just thought, oh whatever, I've got them now. May I just, I'm going to state one thing though that's really, really important because people might say, oh my goodness, you've worn it for a month. Never do I wear my bra for exercise.

So if I were to run or I were to do a sports bra, go out and do a power walk, I'd put my sports bra on. In case people think it's all sweaty, you know. No, that goes straight in the wash, yeah. That goes straight in the wash. That's still on your, but there's still a bit of sweat collating under the breast. Have a sniff.

So I don't wear it, I don't do, I can't. Just have a little sniff. Oh no, don't, that's grim. No, come on. How long's that? All right, Elia, having a sniff. Smells nice. There you go. Smells all right. And I've got some right under the armpit as well. That went just in front of it.

But then I'm not a sweaty person. I'm not a sweaty person. I know it's sweat throughout the day. I could go without wearing deodorant. You wouldn't know. I don't know why, yeah, no. Do you know what I find sometimes with mine? I'll wear it and then when I do wash it is then I'll put it on the floor and then the next morning I'll get it and I'll think it smells like cooked, like if I've cooked something quite strong but more so the t-shirt bras than an actual bra. Oh, fair enough.

So like maybe a shepherd's pie, maybe tomorrow I'll be thinking oh that smells a bit shepherd's pie. See I feel like if I wash mine too much they'll start to lose their elasticity and they start to wobble. Yeah that's what happens. I don't want that. No. How long? How often? I couldn't tell you. See I have quite a few of these in different colours so it's obviously whatever I'm wearing but yeah I would not throw it in the wash it goes in the drawer. It really does depend where, when, I mean is this bad? No because obviously I shower. Sometimes I will sleep in it if I don't shower in the morning, get up. You sleep in a bra? I sleep in my bra all the time. So you're sleeping in it as well?

All the time. I can't not sleep with that bra. You should never sleep in a bra. Mine are not underwired. That's fine. I never. In fact, the first thing I do when I get home now, get it off. Oh no, absolutely not not I love these ones these probably aren't one of the brilliant. But you just said you don't wear a bra so make your mind up. No but I don't wear like a bra and underwire bra. Yeah but this isn't no this is a t-shirt I can't wait to get it off. Oh no I always wear mine. That's mad. You shouldn't it's not good for the old. No well that's long gone I'm not

worried about that. But yeah and then I have like these little lace bras, which are very delicate, low underwire. Yeah, you wear those sort of underneath things, don't you, sometimes. Lovely. I never wash them. Ever. There's nothing of them. What are you washing? Free scumbags. Is that that, is it? Yeah. I do think washing ruins the bra though. Underwire bras before, all the wire then starts to pop out the thing.

So that's it, yeah. Maybe you should have that. I'm famous. I'm using bras and I'm buzzing. This has been salvaged, the wire's been coming out before, I've pushed it back in. It's ready to go in the bin but it's not going. Yeah but that is probably really not good for you as well. So on a similar subject, because I thought about this the other night, I've got a couple

of items, especially, no, more so pajamas slash like just being at home. I've got a t-shirt that has holes in it. My t-shirt? No, no, no. That's another one. I've got a t-shirt that I wear for bed. It's pink. He was wearing it today.

This morning? It's got bleach on it. It's got holes in it. I can't get rid of it. It's soft and I love it so much. I understand. Do you think that's normal? We had nighties. Do you remember that's normal? I mean we had 90s.

Do you remember that 90s that I used to wear? I had one of Natalie's. Minnie Mouse. You had a Minnie Mouse. And a Donald Duck. No. And the one with the story on it. No I had Nellie the Elephant. Oh the story with the sun. And the story was yours. And it was fraying.

No I wore it fraying to the top. I wore it then Elia wore it. I bet we've still got that. That was yours. I love that. I loved that. And then I had an Elia the Elephant one. Yeah, she did. And that was mum's. Oh, we need to get mum and dad to get them out

because that is- Oh, I'd love to see that. But for me, the more holes it's got, the more I love it. Mine, I've got a white company, gray nightie. You know my gray nightie with the buttons? Yeah. Oh, I've had it 15 years. It's got all little

holes now. Oh good, I'm glad. Well, last time, not last night, before I stayed at Elia's, I said it, I think it was off the cuff. I can't remember. I said, I haven't got a nighty. So she went, oh, I've got one here. I haven't even worn it. You took the label off. She gave it to me. It's a leopard print t-shirt, nighty thing. Well, I'll tell you, I actually sent a photo of me in it like five days later saying I'm still wearing it. Still in it.

I've kept it. And you've got it. I wore it outside. Oh nice. Perfect. I think that might have bought me that. Oh. It's alright. I'm not sure. But whatever.

Yeah. But that's... Share and share and like and all that. Yeah, but I'm the same with these joggers. Yeah. They're disgusting. That doesn't matter. I love them so much. But that's like, Natalie gave me this black dress thing.

It's just a black jersey dress. And if I'm just at home and I know I'm not seeing anyone, it's like just a really comfy and I love a dress at home. I don't, I'm not a lover of trousers. So I put it on, but it's got all holes in the arms now. But I still love it. It's fine when you're at home. I think it's lovely. You don't need to buy new clothes for being at home. That's the way it should be. What a waste of time.

And also it is mad. And I've got newer pyjama sets, especially from having the baby in it. When did you wear them? I bought your ones per pyjama. You wanted to be comfy. Yeah, you did. You wanted to be comfy. Yeah H&M but they were comfy because I felt them, they were soft. And then Victoria bought them and then we bought them for Kat.

We've all got them, we love them. They're really nice. Yeah they're a lovely jammers. Yeah but it's even me for the kids and I bought them for holiday and there's still tags on in the drawers from H&M. Lovely little woven, striped, yellow and blue matching. I think they don't look comfortable. So again, another story. We are a nighty family.

We are a nighty family. And Ruby is obsessed. She's got one nighty that Annalisa got for Christmas. It's all she wants to wear. Nighties. But people are, I know families that just wear pajamas. They wouldn't wear a nighty. They just wear pajamas. I would never wear pajamas in bed. Oh no, I do. Oh no, I get into bed, I take everything off really,

apart from the bra. Oh lovely. The bra remains. But what, I mean even, I mean, we're gonna bury you in that bra. Yes. Or cremate you under the table. But no, if I was to get in and put like pajamas on,

I wouldn't wear them to bed or I'd take the trousers off. Only jersey, only t-shirt pajamas. They have to be soft. They'll be soft. They'll have that woven shit. Or silk or satin. Oh, grim.

But people wear that to bed. But we are not pajamas for mum. I've never seen my mum in pajamas. No, always in light. Her little dotted one. And now Amelia's got one of hers because she's obsessed with it And she wears it. It's like massive. She loves it. Yeah, it's funny, isn't it? But we are a nightie family We're not a pajama family just in case I haven't said that already. You've said that a few times

What are we? I don't know what's wrong with me today. I'm delirious. No, it's nice. It's exciting, isn't it? It's all exciting Why are you excited? Just excited to see you both. It's lovely. Lovely to see you. It filled my soul. It filled my soul.

Yeah, she said. That's lovely. That is cracking. We watched a football. Chelsea won. Brilliant. Spurs came 17th. Did you see the meme that was going around?

Yeah, I said to them last night. And 17th. Put a TH on the end. We went to the Spurs shop on Tuesday, Wednesday. Because we went and got Alfie a little rain jacket for his football now. And we took James in there and Jack is viewing. And she got a photo.

You've got to be careful. Ruby's going to meet Auntie Birdie. Top them, get battered, everywhere they go. She's singing the song. Who is? Ruby. Absolutely brilliant. You can't do that, babe.

Oh, can't do that. Yeah, no, but you, I mean, Elia, Leah loves the football. Darts tonight. Got your darts tonight. Well, that's why we've got to hurry up. Darts final, Premier League. So who's in that?

The Asp, AKA Nathan Aspinall, Humphreys, Luke Littler and I'm sure it's Goin Price. It is my favourite Goin Price. I'm just mad that he's your favourite. Yeah. Because he's not a darts player. He's like a Welsh rugby and the others, you know, are darts players. But I do love the Asps, so I wouldn't mind him winning. Yeah, that's good. I really love that the darts for you is a proper, true thing that you watch. For me, darts is Christmas. It's, I like watching it over that period.

It started from that, but then I really enjoy watching it. And it's on on a Thursday evening. So it's always Thursday nights. We sit, we watch the darts. But what I was saying to Maria earlier, actually, what's really annoying is the Premier League football's now finished. I know I do like my sport. I love watching the football.

So the football's finished and now the darts. Why is it all the same time? I know. Why can't the football be... Because then some nights I'm torn between, oh the dance is on but then football's a big game's on. Of course, no I get it. But now, and then bang, nothing.

I know. I'm waiting for Wimbledon. Yeah, I do, I've got into that last year. I really love watching the tennis, I have to say. But again, I was at home so I was able to. It's a shit couple of weeks because Mark's there. So it's always a bit of a boring couple of weeks and I'm on my own a lot. But I quite enjoy it because I can see him on the screen on the cat.

I don't know, it's a lovely time. Yeah, it's nice Wimbledon. I love watching the tennis. Yeah. But yeah, no, the darts for me, darts and the footy. I really enjoy it. But yeah, it's all over now. So looking forward to getting home and watching the darts tonight.

That's been our, yeah, we haven't really been watching. We need to catch up on some series. I haven't really watched anything. We've been away. We started you. Yeah, so good. But not finished it. Well, we've been away, Maria.

What do you want me to do? I did download it all on the iPad. It was out ages ago. Well, no, not everyone watches hours of telly. We've had football, we've had a lot going on. Extenders, we're still not caught up on extenders. What's happening on extenders? I haven't watched it for a while. This week. Has it been good?

So good. But also I was confused, I mean I'm confused anyway because I'm not working, I don't know what day of the week it is, it could be, I don't know. Because I never get to watch it when it's on. Yeah of course. So I watch it on iPlayer earlier. And then the other day it just, you said it don't, I watched last night's and then the next one, the day was one, come on. Really? You said that don't happen, it does happen. Anyway, it just went balls deep very early this week. You don't really like, this should be a Thursday episode and it was only Monday or Tuesday.

So I saw on Insta. No, don't ruin it for me. She hasn't watched it. You must have seen on Insta just the clips of cars and chases. No. Oh well my friend Chris McGill directed and they looked absolutely stunning by what I saw so well done. That's really good. Who's chasing who in a car? No Elio. Tell me. I don't know. Can't tell you. But anyway. Yeah very good. I'm going to catch up this week. I I want to watch this week. I love Nigel. He's brilliant. He's playing that so well. He really is. Paul Bradley is a fantastic man. He taught me a lot of what I know. Do you know what I mean? When I look back, I had lots of scenes with him at 12-ish. When you were young, yeah. And I did loads with him. And when came back it was so joyful. But I told you this, did I tell you? It was a really weird moment in my life.

Oh I did, I think I've said it already. But he said, how's your mum? And I was like, oh my god, she's not here anymore. But no one said that to, you know, where he's just not, doesn't follow stuff. But a lovely man and a brilliant actor. Really good that they're tackling that story because it affects some people. Amazing. No, it's good. There's some good storylines. It's very interesting how it's all panning out. You must catch up on this week.

Yeah, no, we are. We're smashing for them, but... Oh, brilliant. Yeah. I think we're on end of last week. Cool. A couple of hours. A couple of hours. This week, tomorrow night, this weekend. It's a lot. And it's only like, this weekend. It's a lot. And it's only like 28 minutes long.

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mirror. This promotion is yours. Go get them. Starbucks. It's never just coffee. I just watched a series on Netflix called Four Seasons. Ah, is that with... Amazing. Is it all about... is it older people in it? Yes. I've seen that it's sort of for 50-somethings. Yeah, you know I'm terrible with my actors and the names.

It's the guy from Forty Year Old Virgin. What's his name? Steve Carell? Yes, him. Yeah. Brilliant. Very, very good. And just easy. What's the vibe? 30 minute episodes so they go through the whole year for seasons and it's

about a group of friends, couples and it's just all their lives and how it transpires and I must say you know when you can usually tell what the end, how it's gonna happen out but yeah I was shocked by what happened. Left on a cliffhanger. Oh, okay. Really good, easy, 30 minute episodes. Oh, brilliant. Yeah, a lot of giggle.

Have you seen Schitt's Creek yet? Yeah, I've started it. I haven't watched it all, but it was brilliant. It's a big commitment, Schitt's Creek. No, but just to put it, it's one of them that you can just put on, brilliant. Very fun. And can I, I'm gonna ask you this,

but you must have seen it. You have watched Modern Family, haven't going to ask you this, but you must have seen it. You have watched Modern Family, haven't you? No. Oh wow. You've never watched Modern Family. I love it when she does this. But also you don't watch TV. No, but I can't believe you've not watched Modern Family.

She don't watch TV, but she just did a pod about TV. No, what is it? It's fantastic. I mean, there's series upon series upon series. I've just watched the YouTube documentary, which I don't know if it's on YouTube. I don't know if I should watch it on YouTube or not, but someone told me. And I've watched the end of it and the making of it.

It's gone on for like 12 years, but with all the same people. It's about family, starting from the young kids, the mum and the dad, and then the brother-in-law. It's hilarious. I can't believe you haven't seen it. No. Watch it. What's it on?

I think it's Netflix. Okay. Or Sky. It's absolutely brilliant. Start with the pilot because it explains the setup of the family. It's brilliant. Absolutely.. Absolutely hilarious. And it's loved me and Eliza watch it all the time. Long episodes or? No. Half hours.

Alright, interesting. Modern family. It's amazing. Funnily enough, to go to bed, I've been not friends anymore, which is funny that way. But I've been putting on Afterlife. Oh, just a bit of lighthearted bedtime viewing. But what? No, but it's fucking incredible. But I'm laying there and then my heart and my and obviously having a baby, watching it now when you've got a baby, your mind is like, I mean, not that, you know,

but and oh, but it's just it's so good. And I said to Jack, we need to watch that again. Yeah, agreed. I feel like there's bits that I'm like, I don't remember that. I just need to take it all in. Yeah. It's a masterpiece. Yeah.

In one of the best things I think I've ever watched. And you've watched Derek, haven't you? Yeah, see, I love Derek. I haven't properly watched Derek. That's Dom's favourite, Derek. Yeah, I need to watch that. I need to start from the beginning and watch it. I'm gonna tell you a story about Rickage of Ace.

I don't care, I'm gonna say it. So I've always been a fan of Oliver Jeffers books, right? For the kids, they're amazing. They're a bit deep, but he's absolutely amazing. It's all got a moral, it's all about story. One of them is called Heart in a Bottle. It's about loss, you lose someone, and he puts his heart in a bottle,

and he carries the bottle around, but the heart gets bigger and bigger and bigger and it's too heavy to carry and it's about grief and amazing. There's one called Lost and Found, which is about losing things and letting them go. Quite deep, but beautiful, beautiful books. Anyway, there's a book that we bought about nine months ago and And it's called, Meanwhile, Back on Earth. And every time I read this book, I think of Rickage of Ace. And I read it to Joni and it's about the world and space. And it's amazing.

It's about how all of mankind, all we do is fight each other. And it starts from where you are on earth. And if you got in a car and drove at 35 miles an hour, when you got to Mars, that would have taken you 2000 years to get to in real time. And as you look back to earth, and it goes through the history of earth. But because whenever you look at Ricky's Instagram and stuff like that, he's obsessed with the miracle of humankind and he loves space and, you know, he did science, didn't he, before he was a stand-up. So I thought about it and I thought, every time I read this, I think of him, I'm going to buy him a copy.

So I went on Amazon. She's a f***. I went on Amazon, I bought him a copy. I spoke to someone who's closely linked to him and said, may I have your address and could you pass it on to him for me? And I did a little note in the Amazon parcel and said, Ricky, I hope you enjoy this bit. Every time I read it, I think of you. And I think you'll really enjoy it.

And I bought him a present. And? Not a urge yet. When did you buy it? That's very kind though. I like that. About a week or 10 days ago. But I bought it.

Oh, so he's Sammars and it would have come next day. But I bought it. But maybe the person's not seen him or whatever. But I thought just because it's weird, isn't it? Because it's Wicked Gervais. You think, oh, is it weird? I kept thinking about it. Oh, it's weird buying a book.

But it isn't. It's just a person that I've worked with. But also, like you said, it's about human kindness. No, it's a bit fucking weird. No, it's being kind. I thought about it genuinely. I just thought of him because I was reading it and I thought, no, I'm going to buy it for him. Good for you. I love that. I really like that.

Thanks. Well done, Nat. Can't wait to see his response. If I don't get one, it's me and him over. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. He might be listening. Not. Not. Just speaking of books,

cause there will be a lot of Freedom McFadden fans out there. You won't know who she is. No. Cause you two haven't read the books. But she's written loads, but The Housemaid was for me one of the best. But I've just read The Tenant on holiday and it was fantastic.

Really? And she is just such a good writer that I can't get over it. Oh that's brilliant. You know when you can read a book and it's just easy to read. What's it about? Well I don't want to give it away but all of hers are quite, they're sort of frilly, they end in... quite a suspense. Yeah you can't put, you do not want to put it down. That was like me with the old Jackie Collins. Oh brilliant what did you read? All of them. I used to love reading, don't have time. So I then bought a, what's her name? Another book by another famous artist.

Awful. I can't speak. Better read my book in October. Then I got another book and it was just from the shop out there. But you will know. I mean who goes on holiday with a- Danielle Steele. Oh yeah, mum loves mum. Yeah, mum loves Danielle Steele. But instantly, the read is not the same.

Because they're a bit dated. Well, no, this is new. This was out last year. Danielle Steele. Yeah, but this is it. She's 77. Yeah, well, there we go. But then they've all got different styles.

And that's what I mean, but with Freedom McFadden, she is writing as I am, I can't explain it. You can visualize it. No, she's speaking, I am... I can't explain it. You can visualize it. No, she's speaking, I am this, I'm going here. So you feel like you're... Oh, in first person. Whereas when you're reading Danielle Steele, It's third.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He did the... And clearly for me, that's just an easier read. I struggled, not that I struggled, because I've nearly finished it, but it's mad when you're on holiday, because I've really got into it, and then I got home and I haven't picked the book up. It's mad going on holiday with a baby and reading a fucking book. Well when you bring the grampy.

I know that's brilliant. Maybe we should do a little reading book. Reading is... Oh people have asked for it. Why don't we do it? It's a lot of time and I don't read and I get into bed, I'll read three pages and I'm asleep. Could we not audiobook it instead? Possibly but I don't think I've got the mental capacity to take that on. Can I ask you if you're going to read anything, please read a Frieda McFadden book.

Can you give me the book? Well I've just given them all to Mum. Perfect. But you could have the tenant but that is going to another friend so, and every book I've given you you don't read it. I would love to give you... No you gave me end with us, I like that, bothered. I would really love to give you a Murakami book. Just give me a book. They're mad. What's that?

He's amazing. No I'm not sure. He's incredible. Sounds too intellectual. They are great. I've read Memoirs of a Geisha. I did read that. Amazing.

Yous ago it's incredible. Have you read... I'm not that, I'm not. No, and I haven't either, but we were talking the other day about children's book that left an impact. Did you read Anne Fine's Flower Babies? No. I loved, no, it wasn't that, Flower Babies.

Oh my God, we loved that book. Wasn't it a great book? Yes, I took a book. I don't remember it. And the other one was Are You There God, It's Me Margaret by Judy Blume. What about Cave Baby? Oh, Cave Baby, but that's Judy Blume. What about Cave Baby? Oh Cave Baby, but that's for the kids. I loved Cave Baby.

Is that not what you just said? No, this was when we were 11, 10, 11. Oh, sorry. But are you... It's a flower. And there's little packets of flowers and they have to take them home and they have to look after them like they're babies. I don't really remember any books. I was the third child. I probably didn't get any books.

Fair enough. Just got thrown in the corner with some pots and pans. We didn't grow up in houses with bookshelves, did we? No. We didn't have books around. There weren't books around. Not like we have. No.

Or I have, I mean. Yeah, but the amount of books is... But I think it's important. I will often go into the lounge in the morning, I mean, Joni's little busy mind, but she will have all the art books that I've got laid out and she's looking at the books or she'll be reading stuff. It's good. It's very good for them. Send us some recommendations and we'll see maybe if we can all read the same book. Freedom McFadden. Let's all read a Freedom McFadden book. You loved all those, do you remember them books?

No, Jodie Pickle. Oh my goodness. She was my favourite. Yeah, they were intense. Like, amazing but intense. But if you know, I'm lying, I'm absolutely lying, it wasn't Jodie Pickle, it was... Sorry, there's no way I can let that go. I believe it has been a film, but another book that was extremely hard to read, but

a fantastic read was We Need to Talk About Kevin. Oh, it was a film. We book that was extremely hard to read but a fantastic read was We Need to Talk About Kevin. Oh it was a film. We watched the film. Oh you've seen the film? I didn't see the film but the book. Have you watched the film? No the book was awful. Have you not? You have seen the film. No I haven't.

Oh god that's awful. It's awful. Absolutely awful. What is her name? What did you say? Please help me. It's not Jodie Pickle. She was another one that I really liked. Oh my god what is her name? What did you say? Please help me, it's not Jodie Pickle. She was another one that I really liked. Oh my God, what is her name? Was it Kate something? No idea. No, I'm not letting it go, so all the best.

More lighthearted stuff. Have you watched Virgin Island? No, I haven't. Tell me all about it. Oh my God. I've only watched one it. Right. At three.

Okay. And I was watching Gogglebox. Oh, okay. You know, when you see a clip of it. I've only watched one it, at three. Okay. And I was watching Gogglebox. Oh, okay. You know, when you see a clip of it, I was like, nah. So basically, yeah, virgins. Yes. Been dumped on an island. Kathy Glass. Oh, Kathy Glass.

Oh, okay, great. All to do with, she's a foster carer. Yeah, it's amazing, yeah. But, and it's true, is it? It's an awfully sad, but really lovely book. And they basically are, you've got, what do you call them, like gurus and there's like a team of people that are there to help them with like their struggles and what they're trying to get through. So, you know, if they're worried about their body image or their insecurities, but then they have like a person that they will start to do stuff with. Oh.

To get them over their hurdles. Sorry, did you say they're all virgins? Yeah. Not for long by the sounds of it. But it's very graphic. Is it? Yeah. I might watch it.

I'll bang it on, hey. I've just realised I missed Tuesday's one, so I'm gonna watch that. Oh well, what's this on? I wanna say Channel 4, I can't remember. Is it Vicki Paterson? Does she represent it? No, no, no, no, no, no. I saw she had something out.

No, there's no famous people. Oh, okay, cool. But, the world is mad, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, but I started watching something on Netflix where couples go in and then they get separated and they have to not cheat. No, it was called cheat. No.

No, something else. I mean, yeah, it's insane. They're American, they're on an island. Oh, Temptation Island. Yeah. Yeah. And then they send men and women into, I mean, what is that? That's mad.

I mean, people do cheat. Did they cheat? I didn't watch it. I couldn't imagine. I could imagine they cheat because there would be a program. But what is the point of that? And they're like, sat there going, you know, I love you. Don't, you know, come on.

We can do this. But also it blows my brains, right? So you're, you're a virgin. Nothing wrong with that. No. You've got no confidence. But you're you're a virgin nothing wrong with that no you've got no confidence but you're going on telling going on telly and this one guy bless him and you're going for it everyone's watching that so you can see your penis

and they're watching you do that wow that is that's crazy I'm sorry and you're a school teacher all the best the best. Oh! Secondary school. Well, I don't know. It's like when they go on Naked Attraction. Yeah, it blows my mind. They go, yeah, yeah, I'm a secondary schoolteacher. Head of year nine. Look at my fadge. It's mad. I teach history and here's my penis.

It's crazy stuff. If I just saw feet and legs and then cock and balls I'm not choosing any of you. That's the grossest part. But that's evil. No for me it's when they're not successful and then they have to come and hug them and they're all naked. That is so awkward. Why are you cutting off of me with your naked body? It's awkward.

You're like, ugh. It's really bad. But good awkward. You're like, ugh. It's really bad. But good luck. I mean, people have got some confidence. Apparently they haven't. But that's what I... Yeah, that's bullshit anyway.

It's all just to make a programme. But it's just eye-opening. It's like, what are they going to think of next? It is mad. The assembly. No, I can't talk about it. For anyone who listens to Off the Telly, I'm sorry to repeat myself because we did in our last episode of The Penultimate have a little chat about it. No.

But I can't get over it. I can't. I've watched it about five times. Have you watched the After Gary Lineker? I haven't seen Gary Lineker yet. Oh, it's that one. Have you not seen it? No. It's fantastic. So then there's a fifth episode and it's like the bits you didn't see, the outer arm.

Oh yes, I need to watch it. It's fantastic. It's fantastic. It's incredible. Do you know what's amazing I think for neurodivergent people? What I really love about this is it's the Assembly and they have got together a bunch of neurodivergent people to ask the questions but they're the stars of the show. Yeah. It's not about Danny Dickel and Gary Lineker I thought they were gonna change the group and they haven't so each celebrity is the same group

yeah all the characters they're fantastic they've all got they're so talented they're dancers they're singers they're comedians the guy that knows all the strictly stuff on that yeah The guy that knows everything about strictly. I haven't seen that one. Wow, she's the biggest fan of Shelly Moffat. No, I haven't seen that one. I've been away. I've been away.

No, no, no. I've only seen three. I've seen Danny, David Tennant and Jessie. No, yeah, the Jessie one. Who's Jessie? It was Jade from Little Mix. Jessie just had her little twins. Oh, congratulations. That's lovely. Two her little twins. Oh, contractulations, that's lovely.

To get little girls. Really girls? Early though. Oh really? She had a hard pregnancy didn't she, bless her. I think she stayed in hospital for like most, from... Oh gosh, she's been in hospital for a really long time. That's mad though, two little mix of her twins.

Really? Yeah, Leanne. Ah, I don't know the others. Little twins. Little twins. Yeah, but she sings Ah, I don't know the others. Little twins. Little twins. Ah. Yeah, but she sings Black Magic and then the guy who knows all strictly says, oh, so and so danced to Black Magic on Halloween's Day and I know exactly the dance he's talking

about. Yeah, now I know already. Yeah, he knows everything about Strictly. They're just fantastic people, fantastic characters and I think it just brings to the forefront for anybody, you know, neurodivergent people. They're really, it's just the way your brain works in different ways. We've all got a brain. Again, I've been learning. I did an amazing lesson. They say, how many senses have you got? And we go five, the ones we're taught. We have over 21,000 senses. And it's just how we filter them, which is

why we're different. Yes, there are neurotypical people. Like I will never now use the words now I've learned about it. Normal. You only say normal. Yeah, it's not right. Because there isn't a normal. There isn't a normal. You can be neurotypical, which is sort of 70, 80 percent. No problem. What is normal? But there isn't a normal, you can be neurotypical which is sort of 70 80% no problem. What is normal? But there isn't a normal. Your normal is different, someone else's normal. Absolutely.

But that's like anything. Yeah, that is just a really eye-opening thing and it's just how you filter things and you have different qualities, different things you're good at. Like it's, your talent is different things and this just highlights, you've got to watch it. The singing, the questions. It's no different, the question, that meme that's like... Oh, with the patitra? Going...

What is it? Going climbing the tree. With the animals telling an elephant to go and climb a tree. Or a goldfish in a bowl. You know, it's the same thing. They all have their things that they're good at. Well, anyway, whoever thought of that, created that. It is the most genius thing I've ever watched

and I cannot wait for more of it. I'd love to get us to do that. Absolutely, and also, surely that has got to be around for decades, that is endless. There's so many celebs out there, it's incredible. I agree. And I thought Danny Dyer was amazing. I thought, yeah, I thought they all were to be honest,

but Danny Dyer and Jade, amazing. What I loved about watching Danny was I know Danny and it was Danny. Yeah. Do you know know they must have all been themselves to do that because it was absolutely Danny you were watching. You never get any airs and graces from him anyway so I don't know why I'm saying that really but yeah I thoroughly enjoyed that episode. Yeah I think when you're around all of those different spirited people how can you not just be up front and yourself you have to. it must be so heartwarming and so well he cried a lot Danny I know it was beautiful beautiful watch I'm gutted there was only four

I can't wait I might watch one tonight yeah might finish it tonight I'm not gonna watch the darts Premier League final no I'm alright I'd rather no this is Christmas I don't know we've got to speed up. I'm just shattered. I've got to say something. Sorry, just to end. Don't be rude. I've got to say something. It's so hot in here.

It's so hot in here. No, I just wanted to say, so you know our friends at Box of Hugs London. Yes, yes. Oh, yes. So I got my best friend Mel a little gift from them just to thank her for everything. She's been very supportive. I did see, I did see on Instagram. Beautiful.

Yeah, did you? And the girls were so appreciative of me ordering. They're so cute. They said they would love to offer our listeners 15% off a box of hugs using code NN, so NatNat15, NN15. Is that capital letters? Capital letters, NN15.

To be honest, they've said they've had loads of orders from us anyway, but they'd love to give a little promotion out if anyone wants to order anything. We'll put it on our Instagram when the pop comes out. Yeah, let's put it on the Insta. That is so kind of you girls. And I'm just pleased that we've helped you and you're really busy. And that's what it's all about. And it's amazing. We've had listeners messaging to say, I've sent it to a friend. They were so overwhelmed. It is such a beautiful little gift. It's brilliant. What a business and what you've been through and you've had listeners message in to say, I've sent it to a friend, they were so overwhelmed. It is such a beautiful little gift.

This is brilliant, what a business. And for what you've been through and you've all pulled together and done something great. So that's what we're trying to do, not quite there yet. Anyway, on that note, I love you both. Nice to see you. So nice to see you. You're gonna come and have a little sleepover next Friday?

Yes. I keep saying yes to things and then, but no, I think that will be possible. I'm really yes to things and then... Well... But no, I think that will be possible. I think we should... I'm really all out of sorts with the weekends. Me too. Yeah, I'll check.

It's because we have bank holiday as well. Yeah, I think Friday will work. All right, well we'll work it. Let's get that in. That'll be lovely. Get it in. Be lovely. All right, listen, wishing you all a fantastic week and I will speak to you Thursday.

We've got a cracking Auntie Linnie episode. We sat here for two hours before we started the pod. Did four hours of talking. You know us. Take care everybody. Love you. See you later. Thank you.

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