Life with Nat - EP126: Tony talks #10 - Summer; is it all it's cracked up to be?

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

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Not so bad. How are you doing? I'm all right. I'm very pleased with our call. I've kept this room. Yes. Yeah, it's good. Could get a little bit hairy in about 35 minutes time, all the windows shut. If you hear this thud and this dull thud of a large lump of mass hitting the floor, you know I've passed out, but at the moment it's all right. You are right, we might run out of air. I think we might, yeah. Got to get that air consulted, don't we?

Well, I keep saying. I know. Anyway. We've got to talk to your mate. We will do it. I hope everyone's good. Because we are in a big spur of summer and it looks really hot and warm over the weekend, next week looks beautiful as well. I thought, what better subject to talk to Tony about than the summer?

Is it really what it's cracked up to be? Now, I don't want to be the bearer of bad news. No, I know. I know. To say you've opened, I think, Can of Worms is putting it lightly. I think there's a Pandora's box that's been opened here with the message. We've got hundreds of messages. Hundreds today.

Thank you so much for all of them. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I've been trying to do my work and reading in between. Yeah. And we've just had, yeah, overwhelmed really. It's been major. Yeah. Shall we start?

Go on. Because we ain't going to get through it. No, we're not. Let's keep prattling on. Here we go. Lisa. Lisa. Hi, Lisa. Hey Nat, hope you're well. Just seen your Facebook post. I love the summer, especially the long days, but the fly is in the house please do you or Tony have any tips on keeping them out they're driving me nuts

loving your work love to Tony also all the best to auntie Linnie and the nieces I shall pass on well flies well that's an hour yes on its own Yes, on its own. An hour. On its own. Nookum. Nookum? That's nookum. Oh, nookum. I thought you were talking about a place. Nookum. Do you remember when we moved to Nookum?

Do you remember when we moved to Nookum? It was full of flies. No. No. So there's, I think you've got a few options. Ignore them. No good. The handheld fly swap.

You seen that? The one you charge up? Oh no. Yes. What, you electrocute them? Yeah, you seen that? The one you charge up? Oh no? Yes. What, you electrocute them? Yeah, you electrocute them. There's a thing online, it's a salt gun.

So you put salt in this gun and you kill them with these little packets of salt. And where does that all go? It goes all over the floor. Oh brilliant. It goes all up the walls. You've got to redecorate afterwards. One of my customers who's got a place in Italy,

they have one of them bug buster things. You know, you put it on the wall and it's a light and they go to it. Did you not see downstairs? No, no, you've got one, haven't you? Yeah, so talking of flies, Lisa, when I tell you what I want to say about flies, I feel quite passionate about it.

Right come on. Because they make me so angry that I think I've got a problem with them. So if I'm sat in the lounge and there's a blue bottle. Yeah. I can't ignore the rage I feel. I feel rage about it. Pfff. Rage. Bit strong. No. Rage. Bit strong.

No. Rage. No, my blood is boiling. Oh my, no, sorry, you've got to try and find something else in your life other than rage about blue bottles. Well, it's only when they're there. Yeah, I know. You know, I'm not sort of sitting there thinking of catastrophising.

Yeah, don't wake up thinking about blue bottles, do you? No. No, that's good. No. Do you know why I think I've got rage about blue bottles? What? It's your fault. Oh, the fishing. I think it's your fault. I think I'm damaged.

I used to have regular fly-out breaks and my maggots getting out. I remember those yellow and grey curtains. Yeah, with all flies. I know, it happens, you know. But a black curtain. I think it scarred me for life. I don't think it's quite as bad as that. It's probably half a dozen on it. That's not what I've got in my memory. Well, I'm sorry, but you've been, you know... The maggots getting out the box everybody.

Yeah, it does. We do have... It's just an occupational hazard. We get some escapes. It just happens. Any angler will tell you that. That's another pod on its own. But anyway, just blokes writing and saying where they've left their maggots and what's

happened to them and where they've ended up and where they've ended up with flies. Well I remember them in your bedroom. Yeah I know, I know, because I had a fridge in my bedroom. You did? Yeah, in the wardrobe. Yeah, in the wardrobe, yeah. I remember. Yeah, I used to have regular outbreaks but there we are, we'll just gloss over that one.

Other than that it was quite a nice house. It was a lovely house. It wasn't always full of flies. So the people I work for who have got a place in Italy, they got one them bug buster things, but what it is, you can't see them die. So it's a circular one and the light is behind it. So they go behind it to find the mountains in Italy and it's full of flyers apparently yeah it works well yeah in the kitchen it's I've got the one that they have in kebab shops oh blimey that's what it's like isn't it it's quite large yeah I thought they just let the Donny kebab do the job on yeah I didn't think they worried that's

what the flyers will just go on the Don and we'll just we'll just we'll just give them a shit. We'll just slap them in and... Extra blue bottles? Yeah, anybody. Chilli sauce lettuce. Chilli sauce lettuce blue bottles, yeah. It does work, but yes, I do... I'm not sure how people are going to feel about it because it is quite inhumane.

Because you... It's flies. They're flies at the end of the day. They just spy the food, don't they? So, you know, that's what they are. Yeah. Not here for much else really. So I would say get yourself a light. A zapper. A zapper. If not, obviously you have the sprays, but they're not great again.

They're dangerous, right? They are. Animals and kids and stuff. I mean, the screens are quite good, but retrofitting them is difficult over doors and windows. But I've got customers now that when they do an extension, they buy these screens that go in front of their doors, you build them into the wall and they're a sunscreen. So you pull one side over and if you've got early morning sun and it streams in and you don't want it,

you pull it over and it's like a blackout blind. And then if you go from left to right, it lets the sun in, but it's an insect screen. So you can have your doors open late at night if you want to. Or net curtains. Yeah, but they still get through net curtains. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're not sealed up, are they?

No. Sorry, Lisa. There's a few ideas for you. There's a few ideas, yeah. But if they really wind you up, like they wind me up, I recommend a zapper that you plug in the wall. Yeah. That will get them every time.

They can't help themselves. They love it, don't they? They love it. It's like me and you walking past a pub. Kebab shop. Oh no, we don't do kebabs, do we? It's awful. Though we used to.

We used to, yeah. We did, yes. We did. Yeah, it is like me and you walking past a pub, yeah. Yeah. Can't help ourselves. No, that's right. Hope that helps past a pub. Yeah. Can't help ourselves. No, that's right. Hope that's helped you Lisa.

Yeah. In some way. That's useful as a chocolate fire going. Yeah. Sorry, Lisa. But there we go. We have a go. We're not experts. You know that. We're not experts. Dear Isnat and Tony, we moved to Lincolnshire last year from London living. What a game changer. I have found a love for my garden. Before we

had a piece of fake grass and pots and now have a gorgeous garden that I did find daunting at first but absolutely love it. My dad came up to live with us after we lost mum and he's having an amazing new lease of life watching the birds, crazy squirrels and the fresh air. It's simple but a magical one and it's been amazing weather here almost a little micro climate of our own in the village old bowling broke sounds nice love listening to you all such a special family bond you all have enjoy the summer big love to all well that's really nice what do you reckon about that it's nice sounds like. It sounds like bliss to me.

Because I've always wanted to live in the country. So she's preaching to the converted there. If I could, I'd do it tomorrow. Because I just love the idea of a slower pace of life. And having a bit of privacy. People not on top of you all the time. And appreciating what we've got in this country, which it sounds like they've done. Yeah. You know, so you have a little bit

envious, probably a little bit envious of that. No, it sounds lovely. Sounds lovely. I swear, daddy was. He was up in Lincolnshire. Wasn't he? Yeah. And he had a great time there. Yeah, he did the time. For the few years he was there, he really enjoyed it. Loved playing his goal. Yeah. He had a social sort of element up there. Yeah, he had there, he really enjoyed it. Love playing his goal. He had a social element up there, friends. He had friends around the corner and stuff. His brother around the corner. Yeah, so I can understand why people do it. I think it's a really big step.

It really is. If you've got family and stuff and kids and whatever, and what they're doing, I think it's brave. I really do think it's brave to say, do you know what, don't wanna do this anymore. Gonna go and change our lives and go and live in a village and 120 miles away or whatever it might be and just change our lives

for the better. I think it's really brave. I think as you get older, I know I'm only 42, but I do think about those changes more often. You might till you're my age. But you just think, well, am I going to regret things? You think about them all the time. You know? I know loads of people that,

like for instance, I know, blokes I know that moved to Norfolk when they were 68 and 65, and they just said to me, I should have done it 20 years ago. 20 years ago. Now, they're really sad that they didn't make that change,

but it's not always as easy as that. You know, you've got responsibilities and stuff, and as a family and... Especially someone like yourself who's got a business. I've got a business as well, which is even worse than having, you know, it's as bad as having a family really because you're so intertwined and just completely, you know, it's just part of your DNA. You can't just walk away from it, you know, so. But yeah, really brave, really brave. Well, I'm pleased you're having a fantastic summer love to your dad and I certainly know what it was like when dad was with me moved in here.

I wouldn't say a new lease of life well no maybe I would. I think it was. Yeah yeah I think so and we had a great time together so you've done the right thing there you'll never ever regret it so it's fantastic it's fantastic absolutely brilliant hey Nat it's Layla here from Hamilton currently in sunny Palma Nova it's absolutely boiling at 30 degrees seeing you in tone are going to be talking about the summer so I thought I'd send a message it's just our first full day here but with a six year old and a 12-month-old there hasn't been much time to relax in the sun yet. We had a 3am wake up yesterday for our early flight and to say I was overstimulated by dinner time was an understatement. Anyway, all part of the fun. My six-year-old Leo has made a wee pal from Liverpool and the rest of the fam are starting

to take turns of the baby so I'm on chapter three of the house made by Freedom at Fadden and enjoyed a white wine with ice. Love in the pod, love to you and Tony." I'm pleased you're having a lovely time, Leila. Yeah, absolutely. Sounds excellent. Yeah, it does. Holidays in the sun with kids. Whoa. Oh, God.

Major. Can be brilliant. We've got some wonderful, wonderful memories of when the kids were small. Military operation as we all know. You know, you have to take a whole of boots and whatever other pharmacy. 12,000 bottles. Yeah, and you know, antihistamines and black creams and this and that. Yeah. And that's just for me.

Yeah, I know, I know. So, great memories, but yeah, but hiring and trying to get the buggies on the plane, all silly things like that that you've never done before. Oh, I know. Yeah. Or car seats, you think, at the other end. Yeah, car seats. Hiring a car, and is it a proper car seat?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And are they going to go through the windscreen if you have an accident and stuff. Yeah, yeah, all that. Mad. Yeah. Because you know that I won't bore you all. I think I've said it about 15,000 times, but genuinely when I go on holiday, if I'm in the sun and the sand, I get a severe allergic reaction around my ankles.

Yes, I know. I remember that. Yeah, that happened probably 20 years ago. It has a name. Can't think of the name. Don't worry. I do know the name. I just can't think of it. But when I go away, it is quite a nightmare.

Yeah. So we've had lots of messages today. There's been some real positive ones about the summer. And I think generally, of course we all love the summer because it's sunny and it's nice and people are happy and you haven't got to worry about getting wet and cold and blah, blah, blah, whatever. But, and this is the but,

with things like holidays and the summer generally, I think as a family, it depends what sort of family you are. I think so. And what I mean is, if you are a family of slim, olive skinned, tan easy, don't get eaten by insects, don't get heat rashes. Hay fever. Don't get hay fever. Then the summer is a breeze. But we're a very, I get hay fever, Evie gets it terrible, James gets it.

Mine's terrible. Yours is terrible. Yeah. The mosquitoes absolutely love me. I went to Greece once, and this is true, and people might not believe me, but I went to Greece once with friends of mine, and I forgot, we used to buy these mosquito tablets. Yes. So it's a little plastic thing. You put it in the plug and the mosquito tablets sat in the top of it overnight

and it would stop the mozzies from getting you or whatever. And one night I came in and I had a drink, obviously, forgot to do it, left the window open. The next morning I had 54 mosquito bites. And what they'd done is they'd eaten me all around my tan line, around my bum and my waist, where your brown bit meets your white. Honestly, one had come in, seen this and gouged himself on it and then called all his mates

over and they'd had a complete party on me that night and it was honestly 52 or 54 bites I had. But what is it with our skin? I think it's rich blood. I was sat in Acton and it was about 14 degrees. And you got bitten. Bitten alive. Yeah.

As if I was in Spain. Yeah. Yeah. People were laughing the next day. I said, look, I've actually still got marks now. You still got scars. And it was a month ago. Yeah. They're horrendous. So that's what I'm saying. So some people, I've been on holiday with people and they

don't get bitten. They don't have a heat rash, they tan. And so for me, I would love the summer if you could just lay in the sun and not worry about anything, never get bitter, never get a rash, never have a problem, never have to go and have a 200 quid steroid injection because you've got prickly heat, which has happened as well and you know all that sort of stuff so so for me I think the summer's lovely it's nice but we as a family have to be very careful we can't over stretch ourselves with the amount of sun we have or where we go or what we do because we just cause ourselves problem I wanted to talk about the difference actually between well you've got two bites on you now yes that's right that's right two bites on one. I can see you now. Yeah.

I find it really difficult with Mark, because Mark loves the sun. Yeah. And I don't mean he lays in it, he's an outdoorsy person. Yeah. He's got his trains and he goes out there this week, it's been a lovely evening and he's desperate, he said come and have a glass of wine with us outside. I said darling I cannot do that. Because you're going to get eaten alive. I mean if I'm going to get eaten alive or the hay fever's so bad, I can't breathe. So that's really a shame that we can't enjoy that garden.

We work so hard, the garden looks beautiful and I can't sit in it. Eve is the same. She'll sit in the garden for an hour or half an hour and then she'll have to go and have another shower to wash all the pollen off before she goes to bed otherwise she's so ill during the night and she wakes up with all her eyes terrible and stuff. The same. It's mad. Madness.

And I've had the jab this year. I know. Before you all start texting in and I love you for it, I've had a jab, I've tried local honey, I take two fexofenadines a day. I can't do any more than I do. It's really bad. But I am on top of it at the moment.

Even tonight I feel okay. But I haven't been outside too much. But that's, I think for me, the problem. I want to enjoy it. But that's, I think for me, the problem, I want to enjoy it. Yeah, yeah. But it's really difficult to enjoy being outside when it's hot. Yeah. Just one other thing I'd like to mention as a bloke.

Oh yeah. So going on holiday as a bloke, I'm always forced to wear sort of, some sort of open toed shoe, sandley, whatever it might be, right? Because you're on holiday. This is so funny. Go on. Which is fine. But I end up weeing on my feet. So what, so this, but this is true, right? So there's certain mal, you Ryan, whatever you want to call them, there's sort of, there's certain mal facilities, if you like, in certain countries where you have an,

sorry, not to be too blunt, but you have an away and it ends up going all over your feet. And I don't like that. No. I don't like wearing on my own feet. That's fair enough. Yeah. So that's, that's, I think that's a fair comment,

but would you rather we over your feet or on your brand new trainers you've bought for holiday? Yeah, but I don't know I'm wearing on my new trainers because I can't feel it. Yeah. So I'll block it out and I don't know. Don't know, don't know. But when I look down at my toes

and they're all cold and wet. Yeah, or warm. Or warm. And then I end up trying to sort of stand back to, I'm getting to too much detail now but anyway yeah wearing on my feet I'm not keen on it. What's funny about that is uh we're going away in the summer going to Greece and the other day I promised you I said to Mark what sort of shoes have you got and he went what do you mean when I've got my shoes I've got Crocs, trainers

yeah and I went well no we need know, you need a sandal. Yes, you need some Birkenstocks, obviously, or whatever, something similar. You've got to have a, you were going to break. An open-toed sandal so you can wee on your feet. There you go. That's what it is. Very funny.

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I love listening to you. You're all great company. The summer. I love all the seasons and I'm always ready for changing seasons. That's something I thought about earlier. That's a fantastic point. I have to say we're so lucky in this country. We are. To experience the changing seasons. We're a little island in the North Sea and I do believe that the same way as you're ready

for spring after winter, we are ready for autumn after summer. Yeah. I do believe that. I agree. Years ago I worked with this fella and he worked for the British government at some point and he was sent to the West Indies. Yeah. He was a, whatever he was, I don't know, a government officer of some sort for the British

Consulate or whatever. And he said to me, he said in the end, he was bored of barbecues on the beach. He said, I wanted to get on a train on a Monday morning and get out the station in the pouring rain and put an umbrella up. He said, as a Brit, you're just not used to it. You're not accustomed to it. And I'll never forget him telling me that. So yeah, sorry, very... I mean, the hope you get when you've had a long winter and you see that first daffodil,

or the first snow, sorry, the first snow drop really, and you think, oh, it's warming. Yeah, it's going to start warming up. And then your garden starts coming alive. And then you're saying, well, are we going to have a nice March? Yeah. Are we going to have a decent Easter? Yeah. You know, all that sort of stuff.

And it does, I think, if you just live somewhere, it's just warm all the time. It'd just be boring, really, wouldn't it? Yeah. And we can't moan about the weather then, either. No, we can't. It'd be like the far show where she's just scotcher and scotcher. Carolyn Ahern, do you remember? I do.

Every single weather forecast was scch y'all, Scotch y'all, even more Scotch y'all. How good was that? It was, yeah. It was good. Yeah. Here we go. The summer. I love all the seasons and she's all ready for a change. Okay. Summer is of course lovely, but I really don't understand the love for barbecues.

This is massive. This is huge. Massive. This goes even bigger onto outdoor kitchens. This is massive. Outdoor kitchens. Nicola this is brilliant. Here we go. She can't understand it. She never has. Taking everything outside to cook on an unreliable heat source, pinning everything down to stop it blowing away, flies and wasps hovering around, then bringing everything back inside again is such a faff. I'd rather prep and cook inside and eat outside. The other thing I dislike about summer is the guilt,

feeling like we should always be doing something or making the most of the light evenings. It's exhausting. This is possibly one of my favourite things about winter. Curtains pulled, fire lit by five, zero guilt. I'm Cornish, so we have to accept the roads will be chock-a-block for the summer months too. I guess it's the price we pay. I may be a winter girl after all. Keep up the great conversations. I'm off to vote for your podcast now. Thank you, Nicola.

What a great, great message. You've got loads to unpick. Yeah, brilliant. We had a barbecue on Saturday. Right, okay. Gonna talk you through the barbecue. Yeah. From Wednesday, Mark's been working, you know,

and he said, Saturday, we'll have a barbecue. I said, okay. So firstly, I've now got to go out and buy the barbecue food. I know I'm buying food anyway. But anyway, I go out and I get a few bits, not loads, a few kebabs, a couple of burgers, packet of sausages. There's only us and Eliza's friend. There's five of us. The barbecue goes

on. I prepare a salad. I do some wedges. So I've already cooked indoors. Sorry, can I just stop you now? Yeah. Is it gas or is it charcoal? No, charcoal. It's charcoal. Right, okay. It's fine. It's charcoal. Mark will not... He said what is the point of having a gas barbecue? It's got to be charcoal. That's the love for coal coming out there, the steam. So anyway, barbecue goes on. I've already cooked inside, I've prepped the salad. I've done the wedges, they're in the oven. So there's something cooking inside anyway.

He works the barbecue on, we make all the burgers. All the kids, a thousand flies and a wasp, the three kids go inside to eat. Yeah. So me and Marcus are outside, everything laid out, I've been in and out like a fiddler's elbow with the cutlery and the condiments and this and the tissues, every bastard's gone inside to eat. Yeah, I know.

I don't like barbecues, Tone. I'm all right if I'm at one. Yes. I don't want to host one. Yes, well that's like everything though, isn't it? I mean, the food always tastes better if you haven't cooked it, let's be honest. Oh, that's true, that's true.

But I'm with you on the barbecues. So I think like in America and places like Australia, they're massive. I mean, they have their breakfast on barbecues in Australia because we know a couple of people from the cricket club way back when they were Australian. And they would have their breakfast on a Sunday morning on the barbecue, a bit much if you ask me, but anyway.

So I think again, it culturally, that's a really big difference is that, you know, in the States, I think it's sort of, you know, blokes, it's like, who's got the biggest barbecue, who's got the best barbecue, who's got the biggest bit of meat they can barbecue for the longest amount of time and all this sort of stuff, you know. There's barbecue Facebook pages and there's barbecue groups

and there's barbecue police who come in and smash your barbecue up if it's not big enough and all that, so. So. So. So. So. So.

But it's true, you know. But in this country, it's something that we just do like a couple of times a year because you feel like you've got to. So I understand the love of the barbecue culturally for certain people. I know but Mark loves a barbecue, he's obsessed with a barbecue. Well then that's just a bloke, maybe it's just him. Yeah, I mean I couldn't care less personally, I just want to pay the food. Let's have a barbecue.

It sounds great and whenever we used to do one, I mean, we chucked our barbecue away last year because it was rotten and we haven't even bought one yet. No, no. We're still looking for a new one. Still haven't bought one. And we used to go, I want to have a barbecue, you know? And it was just such a fact.

Stress. I find it stressful. Mark went and bless him, I went, these barbecues are too stressful. He went, you're not even cooking the meat. What are you talking about? Yeah, yeah. I said, but I'm running in and out Doing this doing that. Yeah, you're doing the legwork. I say that he's cooking the meat and then he's doing the legwork as well after

I just said I don't find it enjoyable. I Think I love the kitchen. I love being inside Yeah, and I'm very happy with the cooker, with the oven, with my stuff. Yeah. And I can cook a lovely meal. And if people want to eat it, I don't even want to eat outside. No. I really don't.

I don't. If we're in a pub and someone says, oh, should we eat outside? I'm like, no, I'm not eating outside. I'm not interested. In the sun, on a wonky chair, you know, flies everywhere and dogs running around. I'm just not interested. I just, I like to eat outside.

I don't like eating outside at all. I have to tell you for Father's Day, I don't know if you've been there, but you have to go. Where? We're into the dog and pickle. Where's that? Morton, just by Anger.

Oh really? Now you know my roast dinner? Yes. And I don't eat a roast dinner out? Right. I just don't. I'm not being big headed. I don't enjoy roasting out.

No, no, I know what you mean. They do taste of a certain way. I'm just not interested. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is the best roast dinner I've ever had out and it's a beautiful pub. And they squeeze me in and I want to say thank you. Apparently the waiting list is very long. Right.

To get in there, beautiful pub. Wow. And it's somewhere that you really like. You like Essex and whatever. I love it. I mean, we're working in Toothill, which is just, which is on go. You need to go to the pub and have something to eat.

Even if it ain't a roast on a Sunday. No, definitely. Don't have something to eat. That's, that's, that's, that's, we're gonna go for it. It's his hunger. You need to go to the pub and have something to eat. Even if it ain't a roast on a Sunday. No, definitely. Don't have something to eat. That's, we're gonna go for it. It's fantastic. We're gonna, I will do it definitely. Yeah, really, really good. Or we should all go and get cups and have the day there.

It's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was a beautiful, beautiful service. Lovely kids working there. Just all around. It's gold dust, isn't it? When you find someone like that, it's gold dust, isn't it? It was really nice. Really special place. Dog and pickle, I shall look it up forthwith immediately.

You should go. I will take a shower and it's excellent. Yeah, yeah. Excellent. And we ate indoors. Yes, good. This is such a major subject, again cannot go into it this evening. But Kim from Surrey has said, my daughter has autism and sensory processing disorder and she can't tolerate heat. So the summer is not fun for her. She basically just shuts down in the heat, which isn't helpful as she's at college and trying to find a job. Love your pod. You're so lucky to have such a close, loving, supporting family. I like listening to them all. So thanks for that, Kim.

I can't imagine. No, no. What it must feel like, sort of, that everyone's banging on, oh, summer's coming. Yeah, yeah. Isn't it amazing? And Instagram and all the social media

and adverts on the telly and you're dreading that time for your daughter. That's a subject I can't comment on personally, but it must be really, really hard for you, really tough. Without a doubt, yeah. And I think as well, it's not something you would ever really think of, would you? Unless you're in the position. Unless you're in that position.

Or you know somebody. Or you know someone. Yeah, exactly, you're Unless you're in the position or you know someone. Yeah exactly your friends with someone in that position I don't think you would ever think that that's even a thing but it really is isn't it? It must be depilitating. Yeah yeah absolutely. Are you coming here? Are you doing that? It's the summer, are you going to do this? No we're not doing that. I don't want to do that. My daughter doesn't want to do that. It must be really draining for you Kim so I really wish you the best of luck and the clocks will be changing soon for you. Yeah, yeah.

Sorry. Yeah. I read a couple of other ones we had today about the heat and all the rest of it. Again, all I can say is little portable air conditioning unit. I know. Elliot swears about it. Yeah, they've got one up around there. She loves it. In the bedroom. You haven't, people say you've got to seal the room and you can stick the hose out the window. We've got one in our bedroom because our bedroom gets the sun from one o'clock onwards. So today our bedroom will be about 150 degrees. I mean, it's literally, I mean, you could, you know,

say we fry an egg on the floor, you can fry an egg on the bed. It's that warm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we've got one of these, it was about 400 quid, we've had it about 10 years. So it's done it, it's absolutely, yeah. You stick it on a couple of hours before you go to bed, and then you can time it to go off in the middle of the night, so it's not on all night, if you're worried about how much it's gonna cost or the noise.

But just going into that bedroom and it is 10 degrees cooler than it would be, is significant. So again, anyone that's struggling in that way, I would recommend it because they do work. You've got to get a proper one that's a refrigerant based one, you know, somewhere you put ice in it and all that is not very, they don't really work. But you haven't got to spend a great deal of money on them. And they honestly don't, the difference they make on them really hot days.

Well, if it's going to change how you feel and you're gonna have it for 10 years it's worth it. It's worth it and it means that you can sleep you know there's nights when people say I haven't slept a week because it's so hot and we stick that on and we you get away with a few hours sleep you know. Yeah that's good that's really good. I'm talking asleep before I go on to the next message I'm very lucky as you know about sleep yeah I know you keep going on about it no sorry sorry no but even in the heat Mark will go

I've got sleep jealousy with you sorry but Mark will say because obviously we have a to do yeah because he wants to open all the windows doesn't he oh alright and I say there are no windows because of the pollen because of the pollen yeah he says it's degrees, how are you going to keep? And you sleep. And the heat don't really bother me.

But he's really hot. Well, poor work condition, you know. Yeah. Because you can keep all the windows shut. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right. I love the pods with Tony. To be honest, I really like all your pods. I love summer, barbecues, visits to the beach, late evenings, but the hay fever can do one. I'm sick of blowing my nose, having itchy eyes and being woken up in the night to sneeze.

Putting Vaseline around my nose and taking hay fever tablets that make no difference whatsoever. I'll definitely be a happy bunny when hay fever season is over. What is yours and Tony's favorite summer dinner? From Caitlin. Sorry about the hay fever, darling. I know how you feel.

It's a shocker. It's rubbish, yeah. It's awful. Favorite dinner? Summer dinner. Favorite summer dinner. So I think I would say my local butcher, we've got a local butcher,

it's called Peaches in Grange Park in London. And they do minted lamb cutlets. So I would have to say that my favorite summer dinner is their minted lamb cutlets, either with Jersey Royals, a little bit of butter. Lovely. Or Sharon does this really lovely spicy rice. So she cooks it from scratch, right?

And it's got a bit of turmeric. We had some tonight actually. She did it tonight. Yeah. Really tasty and lovely. And a nice, like really nice salad of some sort. And that's, I would say that is my, yeah, that's my favorite. You can't beat a minted lamb cutlet.

Minted lamb cutlet, yeah. Lovely. Especially, I mean, if you, so what you do is you can put them in the oven. I mean, you can air fry them, but if you put them in the oven and then put them under the grill for five minutes, it's really bad, all the fat crisps up.

Yeah. And I love all that. Yeah, but the air fry is fantastic for a lamb cutlet. They are, but sometimes I find that when you crisp it, I don't know, I don't know. You crisp it up and the meat's overdone. It's slightly overdone, yeah. So if you oven and then grill it, you don't tend to, I think, but anyway, they're such good quality

because it's all organic and all off of farms in this country and stuff. None of it's frozen, it all comes in fresh. You can get away with murders with it because it's really good quality stuff. And it's probably not even more expensive than the supermarket. Not an organic lime chop. Four of those in a packet, you're talking about 14 quid. I know because it's Joni's favorite meat. Would you believe? Well, I'll tell you what, there's no way that four of these are 14 quid. No, it's obscene's favorite meat. What do you believe? I'll tell you what, there's no way that four of these are 14 quid.

No, it's obscene, a lot of money. It's a little bit of a thing with me as well. I do, you know, people think I'm a food punts, but I'm not. I just think if you find a local butcher or farm shop or whatever, people think they're really expensive. We buy chicken from our butcher. It is amazing. It's like, it melts in your mouth.

Even a chicken breast, you know, you cook it and you know it's a peachy's chicken breast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or a butcher's chicken breast. But some of the supermarket chicken you get, not all supermarkets, but some of the supermarket chicken you get can be really, like, it's really dry and whatever. And it's not that much more expensive to go to the butcher.

So I would urge people, if you like meat, and not all everyone does, I understand that, but if you like meat and chicken and you, you know, whatever, try and find a local butcher and you'll be amazed the quality you get, especially at barbecuing as well. I mean, we get, there's another butcher up in Oakwood and they do a bag of chicken wings and when I say chicken wings, they're off of, you know, like massive chickens, not all tiny chickens. They do a bag of chicken wings for about seven quid or something, there's about 30 chicken, and they're brilliant.

They're really big. And you can marinate them. Yeah, and compared to what you get out of supermarkets, there's sort of sparrows chicken wings. So yeah, definitely talking about barbecue season, stuff like that. Look at your local butchers, find a butcher's, find a farm shop and look at the prices and even if you pay a bit more, the

quality is going to be a million times better. Outstanding. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. I would go for my favorite summer dinner. It's a difficult one because again, I'm not really a fan of the summer. What makes you think of the summer then?

I'll tell you what I'd go for. I would go for bits. A little bit of hummus. Yes. Some pitta bread. Yeah. Olives. Yeah. A little bit of meat. A charcuterie if such. Yes. In the garden, cold glass of wine,

that'd do me. Yeah, yeah, no that's as good as any. Yeah, that'd do me. Yeah, that's as good as any. I just find it a bit too, also my appetite goes a bit in the summer. You're hot, you're baking. Yeah, that's right, yeah. That's another thing, you do loads of food and don't eat any of it, do you?

No, because you're sweating. Because you're sweating. What I would say is, is ditch the old pitter breads. Go on. And go for the flat breads. Oh yeah, they're great. They are great. I love the flat breads.

The pitter breads are a bit too doughy for me. Nice seeded flat bread. Yeah, or even just a plain white one. Don't cook it up so it's nice and crispy. Yeah, yeah. I think, yeah, I'm more of a flat bread person now. No, I get that. Yeah.

No, I like that. Proud of you. Thank you. I've just been expelled from the English Pitter Bread Association unfortunately. Well I've taken it on the chin to go with the flatbread. I believe that National Pitter Bread Day is coming up so you can't be a part of that anymore either. No, no. They'll be hunting me down on that day. Oh terrible. Hi Nat, just seeing you, it's a story about summer. We have not long been back from Gran Canaria.

It was hotter there than it will be here at the end of this week. The heat is so different. I can sit out in the sun and enjoy it, but in England, I'm out in it for 10 minutes and I'm dripping with sweat. Summers in England fill me with dread. I hide away in front of a fan.

Love, love, love the podcast and I've been listening since the beginning and never miss an episode. Love, Steph. Steph, thank you so much. You're so kind to you. I understand. Different types of heat. You go away and it's a drier heat, isn't it? Yeah, I think it is, yeah. I really try and go out in the garden. If I've got half hour before the school run or something

on a day that I'm at home and I've done all my chores, I genuinely think I'm gonna go and sit in the garden now and sort of sit in the garden, you know. It is, I'm with you, 10 minutes. Yeah. 10 minutes, I'm bored. Yeah, I'm bored, yeah, I can't sit in the sun either. I'm not very good in the sun anymore. I get it. We sound really miserable. We sound...

We're kind of old misery guts, don't we? What about all the people that really look forward to the summer? Fair play to them. Because also you do have to... I don't know about you, we might be moaning about it, but one thing I will say, I do think when you wake up to a summer's morning and it's bright, it does enhance your mood for sure. Yeah, yeah. So for me as well, again, Ben, just talking about on a personal level, you know, winters

are hard in my game. I'm in houses with no heating and no windows sometimes all through the winter. Well, funny you should say that. We've got a question here for you. Question for Tony from your summer pod. Not just summer, but how does the weather affect your work? I'm a dog walker and when it's mega hot, I can't work properly. Classes and walks are all canceled. So I like the weather, but dread the work changes from Amy. So that's just, you know, you were about to talk about it. So I thought I'd mention Amy's message.

Oh yeah. I can understand Amy's problems, obviously, because dogs and paws and boiling hot weather and all the rest of it don't go together. So yeah, absolutely. You know, and they overheat and whatnot. Yeah. So for me, I'll be honest, rain is, any time of the year is a pain if we're doing outside work and we're doing extensions and stuff like that. It's just a nightmare rain. I can take the cold up to a point. I can take the cold up to a point. But even when the windows are open, you're doing a loft convert, you're on top of an house and it's minus seven. Yeah, we've done jobs in lofts in January and you've got a North East wind whistling

through and that can be a little bit brutal. So you've got to dress up, you've got to put some thermals on, you've got to put a decent hat on and stuff. You can't really wear gloves. But with the summer, the summer, I mean, summer is generally, no, it's generally better. But when we have these extreme summer or not extreme summer, but the extreme temperature. So when you're at 30 degrees and you've got blokes trying to lay bricks or, you know, you've got blokes sort of working outside and whatever, then again, it's very much a case of make sure you got plenty of water, but put your sunscreen on. I mean, we're terrible for it in the building industry for years as people, you know, red raw every year.

Yeah, it's ridiculous. So sunscreen, caps, you know, all that sort of stuff. So we did have a situation a couple of years ago where it was, I think the Mercury was going to hit 41 or 42 for a couple of days. Okay. And they were saying everyone's not got to go. So we actually went to work and we said to everyone, look, we'll go to work and we'll see how it is. Yes.

If it's too much, pack up and go home. How was it? It was okay. It was, I think we sort of worked till about, I passed three a couple of days and it did, by then you'd have had enough because it was 40 odd degrees or whatever. And you were working at a slower pace at home.

You do, yeah. You do work slower, definitely, just because it's just so warm and hot. It's a little, you get lethargic, don't you? Yeah, so, yeah, so that's, the answer is, is that, you know, we go with the seasons, hot and cold, but rain tends to be a bit of a nightmare, because it can stop you working. Can't lay bricks in the rain, can't lay blocks in the rain, can't open roofs up in the rain, that sort of thing. So, so yeah, we dread rain really. And wind as well can be really bad if you're up on a roof and stuff flying off it

and all sorts. Well, I don't want you flying off it. Well, I've no chance of that. Have you seen the size of me? I'm not having none of that talk. None of that talk. Hey Nat and Tony, summer is the most overrated thing going.

Bring on the autumn and winter. At least you're getting the weather you're guaranteed. Easier to dress for, easier to cook dinners, much prefer it to as the other half is a farmer and he'll be finished at 5.36 in the winter, whereas in the summer he could be out till midnight. Also hay fever nearly takes me out every year. You never have it in the winter. Roll on October I say.

Love a barbecue though. In fairness, it's delicious, but the side... I love that this message is so conversational. Love a barbecue though. In fairness it's delicious but the sides... I love this message it's so conversational. So brilliant Carla. Love a barbecue though. In fairness it's delicious but the sides are the nicest part. Stuffed mushrooms, garlic spuds, chips, breads, pesto pasta salad etc. Love the pod as always and of course Tony's sweet tones love Carla. Thanks Carla really nice very kind. I like that. Yeah so then like the best bit about the barbecues all the stuff you don't barbecue. This is what I mean. Yeah I do lovely French beans in garlic that people like, miniature new potatoes. Yeah. They pop in the oven. Oh I

love the potatoes love the beans. Yeah. How was the burger? I didn't eat it. It was all right? Yeah, it was fine. I was too hot. Yeah. I got bitten at the time. Oh, don't. Now someone's recommended something for us. Go on. To sleep better.

I know you've got your aircon unit. Yeah, well I'm always up for whatever advice is given on that school. A little hack. A hack, okay. Carol in West Yorkshire said, call gel pads under your pillowcase. Game changer on hot nights. Love to you and Tony.

Always look forward to the pods with you two. Thank you, Carol. Gel pads, call pads. So you slip them in the pillowcase, keep them in the freezer all day. So do they go, so this is me being technical. So you've got a pillowcase with a pillow. Yes.

So do they go in between the pillowcase and the pillow at the bottom? Or do they actually sleep on these things in between the pillowcase and the pillow at the bottom or do you actually sleep on these things in between the pillowcase and the pillow on the top? I would imagine. Would the cold transfer through the pillow? This is the question I'm asking. I would imagine. It's got to be the bottom of the pillow, hasn't it? It's got to be. It just cools the pillow

down. Otherwise you get frostbite in your ear. And also you'd be so uncomfortable because you've not got your pillow. Because you've got gel pads. Yes, that's a stupid question. Your pillow's gone. That's a stupid question. No, but you say that. Is that gel pad going to come through a whole pillow?

Well, I think you'd need industrial gel pads. Well, she hasn't said that. No, I know. She said cool gel pads. Cool gel pads, yeah. Carol. We need to know. We're going to pads. Call gel pads yeah. Carol. We need to know. We're going to have to have some more info. Well we need to know what you use. Yeah. Yeah. Where you're getting from. I wonder if Carol's awake. Nah I can't phone her. No.

It's 5 to 10. It's 5 to 10. Carol please 07788 2019 19. If anyone uses call gel pads let us know. In my mind visually visually, I was slipping it in the pillowcase on top of the pillow. But of course, that's going to be really uncomfortable, really uncomfortable. Could you not put you just get a chest freezer and put your pillow in the freezer? You could. Would it freeze? That wouldn't freeze with it because there's no liquid in it. It'd be cool though. Put it in the bath, then put it in the freezer. Oh, so it's soaking wet and then it's like a ice cube. And it's like a great big ice cube. No, but you're talking about a cordial pad being uncomfortable.

You're sleeping on an iceberg. Yeah, I'm just going down, you know, I'm just going down a rabbit hole. I don't want to go down, I'm afraid, but I'm now. We could just get a load of ice from the freezer and put it in a pillowcase. Yes, we could do. But that'd be soaking wet then. Yeah, or we could make our own for the merch and put it in a pillowcase. Yes, we could do. But that'd be soaking wet then. Yeah. Or we could make our own for the merch and sell them to people.

It's another idea. It is. Frozen pillowcases. Yeah, or pillow coolers. Pillow coolers. You know you get ice packs in lunchboxes. Yes. Imagine a great big rubber one as a pillow.

Yeah, a bit too cold. You get brain freeze. It'd be like having 9.99s all at once. I know, but maybe you just pop it in the fridge at the top. And where are you going to put all your charcuterie you're going to eat rather than having a barbecue? I have no idea where the Hermes will go. Exactly. So that's not going to work. More questions and answers, I'm afraid, on that one. Great idea, but we just need to refine it slightly. Ever so slightly.

What do you reckon? Yeah. I'm going to write a paper on it. You could write the paper, do a dissertation. OK. Regarding the cool pillow. Yeah. And then you could read it out.

You could read it out to all the people that love your voice. I'd need some scientific information and facts regarding heat transfer and- Through materials, different things. And the thermodynamic analysis of the heat pad compared to the pillow. But I think I know someone that could do that. So leave it with me. Okay. Fantastic. Hello loves Danny here. Love the pod and all that jazz. Keep doing you. All that jazz.

On summer, I love it and I love how happy it makes people. But living in London, can we talk about the tubes in the summer? The central line is like going into hell and every day you wonder if you'll make it out alive. How do you combat the sweat in this heat? I struggle with forehead sweat and all the other sweat. Any tips to help stop it? Have a lovely day and enjoy the hot weekend. I love you, Danny. I love your style.

I think you're right, it does make people happy. You've definitely got more energy. I think people feel a little bit more energetic and they have their music on and a bit more social. However, sweat, I don't really sweat. I'm not a sweater under the armpits, but I'm a face sweater. Oh, you always were as a kid. Oh, when I was massive.

Yeah, profuse. Face sweater. I always knew when you've been doing a bit. Always a big cheeks. Big red cheeks. Sweaty lip. Yeah, sweaty lip. That's it's a big cheeks. Big red cheeks. Sweaty lip. Yeah, sweaty lip. That's it. You got it. Yeah.

That's me now. Fringe stuck to the forehead. His other point about the London Underground in the summer, it is heinous. Yeah. It is absolutely disgusting. I mean, I used to work in London and I used to have to get on the train, not just to go to work, but I'd often jump on the tube to go to a meeting somewhere in the West End or whatever in a suit and tie and stuff. And it was horrific. Yeah. In the end,

we got cabs because it was just, you just couldn't go to a business meeting after doing 20 minutes on the tube because you were just soaking wet. It looked like you'd been in the shower. I mean, the Elizabeth line for that is fantastic. But yes, Central line, Victoria line, all of it. Well, Central line's supposed to have air conditioned trains because I worked on it years ago. I worked on that actual project. Did you?

Yeah, it's supposed to have air conditioned trains, but. Not according to Danny. No, no, honestly, it's awful. It's truly awful. And if you've never ever done it and you're from outside London, I wouldn't bother. Get a cab. Because the tube is terrible.

Truly awful. Rush hour. Oh, don't. And then it stops in a tunnel. It stops in a tunnel. It stops in a tunnel, or you get on, and it's so squashed, and then you've got someone's armpit in your face.

Oh, it's disgusting. Armpit in face. Yeah, it's terrible. Before you've even got anywhere. Yeah, it's so squashed and then you've got someone's armpit in your face. Yeah, oh, it's disgusting. Armpit in face. Yeah, it's terrible. Before you've even got anywhere. Yeah, it's terrible. No, it's not good. Not good at all. Is summer all it's cracked up to be?

In a word, no. It's pure hell on earth. Anyone who has ever parented a small child will agree. Everyone loses their minds. South facing gardens, they can do one. Basically make the back half of the house unusable. Barbecues, a lot of faff, filling a paddling pool that gets used for two minutes, ridiculous. Sweating your tits off by nine in the morning. The salads, ice creams and picky dinners are where the good bits of summer begin and end. That is all. Love the pod, cat.

Surviving, not thriving in this heat mum of two little girls from around the corner in Harlow exactly what says on tin that one isn't it don't think cats a fan I feel much better now we've done this pod because I thought I was a miserable old cow yes I know what you mean I really you know I always think, oh, roll on. Autumn and winter. Yeah, roll on. But I think we've got to make the most of it.

Enjoy everything about the summer that we can enjoy. Yeah. And yeah, not be too negative about it. No, I think a lot of the messages have shown is, like most things, it's incredibly personal. It is a personal thing. So if you as a person have a major issue with something in the summer, be it a sensory issue or be it,

people keep talking about hay fever. But even when you live like that, you know, she's saying half of her house is unusable. Yeah, south facing gardens are a nightmare. They sound wonderful, but my in-laws have got south facing garden and you cannot go out there. I mean, it's unbearable. But you know, if you've got a house

which is sort of part shaded, bit of air con in it, lovely. Yeah, exactly. You're not thinking about it, are you? No, that's right. So you are right, it's all personal to you. It's personal to you, yeah. So my house is east-facing,

which means we get sun in the garden in the morning and then it's out the front in the evening. But what's nice is when I come home from work, is it's in shade and it's always cooler and you can sit out there without worrying about getting, you know. Well when we go into the living room in a minute it'll be like a greenhouse. Yes, yeah. And I can't open the doors, sorry. Because? Hay fever. Of course, yeah. If we can just make a cure for hay fever. Oh it'd be super. It'd be really super. We'd be billionaires wouldn't we? Yeah we would. Hay fever. This time next year we'll be billionaires. We're going to end with a lovely message from Rose. I love the name Rose.

Yeah. Isn't it a simple, just a really nice name Rose. Hi, after seeing your Insta story regarding Summer, I wanted to send you and dreamy voice Tony a message. Here we go again. Oh God, voice again. It's all about the voice, about the voice, oh yeah. I don't know what's going on, but it's nice. This may be an unpopular opinion, but I don't know what's going on but it's nice. This may be an unpopular opinion but I don't like summer.

There is so much pressure and expectation to provide a family holiday, picnics, fun outdoors and keeping up with everyone else so your kids don't miss out. And it all costs so much. Even a simple part trip is 20 quid by the time you buy an ice cream each. And then there's summer bodies. Well mine is built for winter and melts, not in a good way, in the summer. Love the pod, bring on the autumn so we can start to talk about Christmas again. Rose. Oh, I tell you, we do sound miserable last lot.

But yeah, we haven't touched, and I think it's really important. There's been loads of messages, I can't get through all of them. And we've had a couple about body image and how it's a lot of pressure for people to start taking layers off and that they don't feel comfortable in summer clothes. And I really get that because I've always been a coats and boots and scarves and I just feel more comfortable in that sort of attire. And I think people are really pressured with sort of going on holiday, bikini bodies, beach bodies. It's a nightmare for people. Oh, definitely. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think, well, we've talked about it before a lot,

haven't we? But there is, there's that judgment. Yeah. There's that judgment, you know, and you've got mums and dads or whatever, and they've had kids and they're hurtling towards 40 or 50 or whatever it might be. And they obviously don't feel they look like how they used to look because none of us do unless you spend three million hours a week in the gym or whatever it is. So I think there is a huge pressure there. But the other brilliant point she's brought up is the financial side.

Oh, absolutely. You know, for some people some people you know the six weeks holidays when the kids are off school and it's sunny and whatever and they must absolutely dread it. I know but it's home. Because all you do is put your hand in your pocket. I know but we didn't. I know that I'm standing really old now. No we didn't. But I was at home. I built tents in the garden with my mum's sheets in the garden and I was at home. It was a different time then. We used to play, listen, when I was a kid, sorry, when I'm talking about, I might have been, like David's two and a half years older than me, so he might have been nine, I might have been seven.

Yeah. Ten and eight, eleven and whatever. Yeah. You know, not, I was, we weren't teenagers, 14 and 15. We would be out all day long. We would play runouts, tin can Tommy, we would climb over the gate and play cricket in local school, we would play football. The World Cup was on 1974 and 1978 and presented to be Seth Meier and Gerd Müller and all these players that we only ever saw once a year on, once every four years on the television. Yes.

And honestly, we just, we were very rarely indoors and it was just how it was back then. I think now life has changed for kids so much, there's so much pressure to not have a childhood and to be, you know, to not be free and to not, you know, you're almost then not allowed to because everyone's so scared that something's going to happen to them. Well, I think we need to stop not being as nervous and let them be more free and stop them being on phones. But that's a whole nother part.

Oh, don't, that's a whole nother thing. That's a whole nother thing. Yeah. But we need to bring freedom back a little bit. I think natural, I think it's not just freedom. I think it's, kids need to understand the back a little bit. I think natural, I think it's not just freedom. I think it's kids need to understand the natural world around them. Yeah.

Like again, that's why my love from fishing came from that. My James, he loved his cricket. Yeah. He was very good at it, but he loved his cricket. He'd go to cricket nets and stuff like that. Didn't cost anything. No, that's right. Even though he had some coaching and stuff,

but he would just, even a couple of mates would go to the nets that the club day was at and spend all day just in the nets and whatever. And it's more, I think it's about getting kids out there and finding them something that they want to do. A passion. And fresh air. Yep. The kids need fresh air for God's sake. Yeah, they do. They really, really do. But again, we never had PlayStations and we never had Xboxes and all that sort of stuff. That came in just as I was a teenager, the Atari and things like that. But we just never had that stuff.

And I'm afraid if you give people that easy way out, same with phones, even I do it now. I'll find myself scrolling and looking at crap, and I shouldn't, I'm a 57-year-old man. But all this stuff is so addictive. Kids have got to get out there and try and find something that they can do in the fresh air and not just sort of sitting on their bums really. I know, I know. It's a hard one.

It's a toughie. Well I hope you have a lovely weekend. Thank you very much. And let's enjoy it as much as we can. Yes. And I want everybody to have a lovely weekend. I'm sure if you've been at work all week, you can't wait to get out in the sunshine, do something nice, be in the garden with friends and you might be having a barbecue and I hope you fully enjoy the experience.

Get those open-toed sandals right out and wee on your feet if you get a chance, definitely. No, yeah absolutely. Yeah get some fresh air, have a barbecue and enjoy your weekend. Have a lovely weekend. Thanks for listening to us and I'll speak to you on Monday. Thanks Tone as always. Thanks Nat. Love you. Love you too. See you.

Bye. Bye everyone.