Life with Nat - EP139: JOSH PUGH

Episode Date: August 3, 2025

Another splendid guest today, the brilliantly funny Josh Pugh joined Nat for a sprawling convo from his comedy beginnings, to his imagined bra laundry care. What a joyful one. Enjoy! Find Josh online... - joshpughcomic.com, his short comedy skits are always so funny - instagram.com/joshpughcomic Please subscribe, follow, and leave a review. xxx You can find us in all places here; ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podfollow.com/lifewithnat/view⁠⁠⁠⁠ INSTA: @natcass1 We're also on Facebook now too: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/lifewithnatpod⁠⁠⁠⁠ A 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@keepitlightmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ SHOW INFO: Life with Nat - it’s me! Natalie Cassidy and I’ll be chatting away to family, friends and most importantly YOU. I want to pick people's brains on the subjects that I care about- whether that’s where all the odd socks go, weight and food or kids on phones. Each week I will be letting you into my life as i chat about my week, share my thoughts on the mundane happenings as well as the serious. I have grown up in the public eye and have never changed because of it. Life with Nat is the podcast for proper people. Come join the community. ♥️ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh well, I don't really know what to say. I'm very excited because I literally watch this man on my phone for possibly over an hour a day. It's a bit of an addiction and he makes me cry with laughter and I am so excited to say that I have Josh Pugh on Life With Nat. How are you mate? I'm good Nat, how are you doing? I'm good, but thank you so much for doing this. I mean that. Yeah, my pleasure Well, you did my ill thoughts out and short-lived podcast. So I owed you one really. You did? I was pleased really. That's why you've got to do them. Yeah it is isn't it? You bank it up, bank your favours and then I'm glad to be here man, it's good and you've got your own merch.
Starting point is 00:00:53 This is the first little tester cap. What do you think? Yeah, you've gone fully on. It's fully on your head isn't it? Is that how you work? I think you have to leave a little bit of forehead on. It's interesting you say that. Right. Because Mark, my other half, he wears his about here. That's what I do I think. And I do go on. I'm going to just move it up, does it make you feel uncomfortable?
Starting point is 00:01:18 That's what she says to me, that says to me, famous person in Soho. Does it? How you're wearing it there. Does it? Yeah, it's like, let's not bother her. Bring it up a touch, I Does it? How you're wearing it there. Does it? Yeah, yeah. It's like, let's not bother her. Bring it up a touch. I think it means, you know, approach. Approach if you want, I think. Maybe I do it on purpose.
Starting point is 00:01:30 It's good quality, that, isn't it, for a podcast merch. It's good stuff. I'm not going to sell shit. No, why should you? And I just want to see what people think of it, so let us know. Yeah, I imagine the price reflects that as well. You're probably talking for one of them, do you think, if people wanted... I don't know, I'm looking at price points at the moment.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Yeah. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm of it. So let us know. Yeah I imagine the price reflects that as well. What we're talking for one of them do you think if people wanted? I don't know I'm looking at price points at the moment. Yeah. I'm not really gonna say in case it's
Starting point is 00:01:51 wrong. What would you do? What would I pay for that? Yeah. No no no no let's put it in perspective. Okay. You've got a podcast. Yeah. That you really love and you listen to you can't wait for it to come out okay yeah and you really like the person who does it right and how has it been put to me is it limited stock available because that helps if you're saying that to me no it's pre-order you know pre-order first to have it. Nice. Well, if we support the podcast, I'd probably... 20 quid. Oh, okay. I think that's fair. I think we're both getting a good deal there. I think you're getting
Starting point is 00:02:31 probably a decent margin on it. Yeah. And I think I'm getting something that I really enjoy while also supporting the podcast. So yeah, I'm not actually having one. I'm not going to be... No money's going to be exchanging hands, but theoretically, hypotheticallyetically 20 pounds Yeah, that's good. If I get some made would you wear a free one or a free one? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, just for a couple of videos Yeah, no no my Instagram, but no yeah, just friends and family's phones If I need to fill me in one and not put it anywhere then yeah, I would
Starting point is 00:03:01 Okay, thank you. Thank thank you I'm pleased. Yeah. So what you've been up to? I've been I had another baby I've got five month old. Congratulations. Thank you very much. So I've been trying to be at home lots for him. That's lovely. It's great yeah he's the second one's much more chilled I'm finding. Yeah. And he can suck his own thumb, which has changed our whole experience. Is that just because he's not crying, because he loves his son? He can soothe himself a bit, yeah,
Starting point is 00:03:32 which is loads better. So I've been doing that, I've been writing stuff, I've been doing stand-up, been doing the videos. How are you finding two kids? It's a game changer, yeah. It is a game changer, yeah. There was a period, maybe like, I'd say three three months in where I found it really hard. I found out that the afternoons were really like stretched out in front of me like how am I going to get through this. But I'm
Starting point is 00:03:54 really enjoying it now. It's really really good. And when you go down to one, like my elders go to the nursery a couple of mornings,'s so easy, it's like this is so easy and they really get on, two boys that's good, that's lovely, I've got two girls so yeah it is nice are they mates that they get on? no, they absolutely despise each other well Eliza's nearly 15 and Joni's eight
Starting point is 00:04:18 yeah it's a massive gap mate they've just lost things in common there haven't they they've got nothing just tipped over yeah Hadlingpool's good for them what, it's the what, 15 year old and an 8 year old? I've just lost things in common now, haven't I? They've got nothing. Just tipped over. Yeah. Paddling pool's good for them.
Starting point is 00:04:26 What, it's the what, 15 year old and the 8 year old? In the, they enjoy that experience, yeah. Really? It's interesting. Yeah, because the 8 year old, they're mid primary school and then the eldest one's... Sort of starting GCSEs next year, she's made up concerts. Yeah. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:04:44 My friend's eldest, she's just like, I think she's like 14 now, and she's just gone into like a new realm of parenting. It's like the disputes at school, it's like stuff he's never had to deal with before. Yeah, it's quite major. It's a big challenge, isn't it, I think? And it breaks your heart a little bit every time they get a year older. Have you found that at all? Yeah, I do. Even like, I mean it's so depressing isn't it. If you go on your Instagram, every post
Starting point is 00:05:10 is, enjoy your kids because they're not small forever, these little feet will one day be massive smelly feet, you know it's just like, let me have some time with them now, do you know what I mean. Yes we went to a stay and play at the nursery for my eldest. Yeah. Which they keep inviting us in for these stay and plays. I'm like, you look after him during this time. Don't be bringing me in to play with him. But over the last year he was starting to run the smaller ones and now he's like, the bigger ones have left and now he's the biggest one.
Starting point is 00:05:38 It's just, yeah, it's time just, it's... Scary actually. If you thought about it, it'd upset you. I think that once you have kids, time goes double quick. Yeah. Because everything's around dates, breaking up from nurseries, terms. Yeah. I find it quite frightening actually.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I feel like every day has been day. I feel like it's Thursday all the time. It's Thursday again and it's just, yeah it's it's scary in it but it's great great gift man my wife would have more I'm not I'm not convinced but I'm not hard no either we'll see I'm 42 now yeah so I feel like it's now I never really just saw you know a couple years maybe my mum had me at 44 so you know but when I really think about it I think do you know what it would got a couple of years maybe. My mum had me at 44 so you know. But when I really think about it I think, do you know what, it would be so beautiful. And then something happens and I think, Joanie goes down at half six seven, shares a bowl of cereal, whacks
Starting point is 00:06:34 the telly on, Eliza's in bed till what, one o'clock in the afternoon. Yeah you threw them years, it's if you want it again innit. I don't think I do mate. I think that's natural though, I think when you know it's now or never, I don't think I do, mate. Yeah. I think that's natural, though, and I think when, you know, it's now or never, Yeah. I think you're naturally gonna get a bit of a... You've gotta think about it, haven't you? Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:06:50 We have IVF, we had IVF, it's worked twice for us. That's amazing. Yeah, so lucky, but, so we've got envios in the freezer, Yes. which you pay to keep every year. I've got a friend like this. Yeah, and at one point, there'll be a decision to make, do you keep them or do you... I think you'll be having more of this. Yeah, and at one point there'd be a decision to make, do you keep them or do you?
Starting point is 00:07:05 I think you'd be having more then. Yeah. I don't think, it's such a special thing. Yeah. Sorry mate. Yeah. Yeah, I think I probably, yeah. You'll end up with seven kids or something, you'll be like J.K. is really small.
Starting point is 00:07:18 But my wife, she's born to do it, she absolutely loves doing it. Yeah. Like sometimes I feel bad bad leaving her with two kids to come and do work stuff. But then I'm thinking how I am with two kids. I'm thinking she's finding out how I find it, but she's so good, man.
Starting point is 00:07:35 So, yeah. That's brilliant. Yeah, it's wicked. It's good, man. Bring me my pride. Yeah, she's buzzing, yeah. We're going on a holiday next week. Two of them. Are you finding that you know packing, getting ready for it, travel carts, travel seeds? I'm good, I'm very domestic I'd say but when it comes to
Starting point is 00:07:56 packing for kids stuff, the kids clothes that is a huge blind spot. I don't know what still fits them, I don't know what is for what weather. What's pajamas. What's just a summer two-piece. So my wife does that but I kind of put a book in my hand luggage and she just laughed at my face. Yeah. I don't know what holiday you're thinking you're having. Yeah you can leave that here. I had a story about someone once. won't mention the name, but it was on a flight reading a book for about 12 hours having a kip watching the thing and next to him was a mother with a tiny baby screaming for the whole flight they're like oh that must have been hard and they got off the flight and it was his.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Oh my god, oh that was brilliant. I'll tell you it was later, you won't be surprised. Yeah, well I kind of, I wish I could do it, but that's like, that is so against nature. You know, it's got this inbuilt thing built in, if your kid cries you've got to respond to it. And that guy just managed to shut all that off and just enjoy you know being a selfish bastard for a couple of hours yeah it's not great though is it? no it's not really but people erm you see these kind of blokes on flights sometimes so I think of my dad on a flight no no paper no headphones no still in jeans it doesn't dress for the flight just sits there with his arm folded just you know people raw dog these flights I think you know middle-aged men have been doing
Starting point is 00:09:27 that yeah for years just without thinking a sweet to suck on takeoff and that doesn't but just there with a whole thoughts, their own thoughts for 12 hours yeah it's amazing really. When you say dress for the aircraft that's an interesting one. Yeah. What do you what do you mean? I'm talking a loose fitting pant or shorts. Yeah. Ideally I wouldn't go kind of a light colour for that. In case you have a bit of Frankie Benders at the airport or something.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Yeah. A bit of a... A bit of a sauce on it. But I'm talking an elasticated waistband. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of the crocs have crept in now a bit. But yeah my step down especially is Levi's jeans belt polo shirt tucked in shoes I think he sounds very smart I get chest eyes at
Starting point is 00:10:12 home by my family really they come around they say how the fuck are you still wearing jeans when it's nine o'clock at night yeah because I don't go in and take everything off you know I'm quite I'm just very happy to be a bit smarter at home yeah I think on the airport side of things. I'd probably go As we call it these days loungewear. Yeah lounge. Yeah trousers top that match. Yeah cap Cap cap. Yeah, yeah, that's still too far down. That's good. You've made me quite self-conscious Actually, that's perfect now. Yeah. Yeah, I'm kind of an aeroplane. I'm just creeping into more lounge wear now. I never wear, I still can't wear jogging bottoms in public. No. Although it's, I've realised, I forget this
Starting point is 00:10:53 like walking around London, I'm too scruffy to dress scruffy. I get what you mean. Because you look like a criminal. Yeah. Yeah. People are... they're wary of me. Yeah. If I'm not in a chino. Do you know what I mean? I do understand it. I hate to say. I'm not... you've got to be posh enough to dress scruffy and I'm not there. Does that make any sense to you?
Starting point is 00:11:17 No it does because I'm the same mate. Yeah you can't... if you're in a tracksuit people are... you know... people are worried about you. They're gonna be having their phone held tight Yeah So your stand-ups what you up to at the moment right a new show yeah Pretty tour next year. How the fuck do you do that? It's hard I don't understand yeah, because you know I'm a. Yeah. Because you know I'm a massive fan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:46 You know I'm a massive fan. You love stand up as well. No, don't you? I love it so much. Yeah, big stand up fan. I love it. But when I look at you all, even you and your videos, whatever, I just think, how'd you come up with it all?
Starting point is 00:11:59 I think the skill is knowing what to do with it. I think everybody has funny ideas. I'm sure you have funny ideas all the time I'm sure you socially you're always saying funny things But the skill is getting that to be understood by Everybody yeah, do you know what I mean? Yes, so it's kind of um if you notice something and it's funny I write it down and then I'll kind of just have it in my phone and walk around and I'll think Is that funny to me or is it funny to everybody
Starting point is 00:12:25 and why is it funny to everybody? And then I'll just try and package it in a way, the hard bit is the packaging it. We all know it's funny things because we laugh at stuff, you know. How long does it take you, for instance, you know, you know us art video. How long does that take to film?
Starting point is 00:12:39 Do you film it? Because obviously, I think you're a bit like me. You're not all poncy with a light or whatever, are you? I'm not massively good on the phone. No. I'm not massively good at Instagram. I literally do it on my, I don't use any apps. I use the camera.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Yes. On the switch it around mode. Yeah, that's what I do. And I go like that. Yes, that's what I do, yeah. And that's as much as I can do. I need a new phone. I'm over during my upgrade.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Yes. And I'm nervous to get a new phone in case I can't even do that anymore. Do you know what I mean? You'll be able to do it. I think I'll be able to do it, but I think you put more pressure on it. If you've got a green screen and lights and all this, people are like, it might feel different. Do you know what I mean? I think people like, they can tell. They can tell and I like that. I like that. I think it will wear out eventually. I think people are going to be like, okay, you'll be be actually your whole face is going to fade No I don't think so. I don't think it will wear out. Yeah interesting. Because I think so many people
Starting point is 00:13:31 Are so glamorous. Yeah. And doing all of that. Yeah. People just find it quite refreshing to see us pair Yeah, I think there's a comment in there somewhere The opposite of that really Yeah, I kind of er, but you know, I looked at some old ones I did in like 2021. Yeah. And you know what, the camera quality is poor. It doesn't look, it doesn't look as good. So I, you know, it's kind of, I should,
Starting point is 00:13:57 No, I'm happy with what I'm doing man, it's just the idea, I get the idea, film it, trim out the bits where I'm pressing the button and that's about it really. I try and put captions on it. Yep. So look people, hard of hearing or non-English speakers. Yeah I always put, always always put captions on it. That's really hard, it's hard to get the captions, it can't understand me really. The software. So do you then have to go in and then? I have to go and edit, yeah. Yeah. and then I put a title on it and then just press go yeah post would you say the videos have really helped everything else I'd say they're the yeah yeah the main reason if I get stopped in the street 95% of those people is from my videos. The other 5 from other little bits of Family Live or whatever.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Yeah, it's just mad, isn't it? It's just... Yeah, it's good really. It's wicked mate. I wouldn't have a career without it. It's brilliant. When did you know you wanted to do what you're doing? I dunno, probably from a kid really. Now I think about it.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I remember watching Lee Evans and Peter Kay and Billy. Yeah. Now I think about it, yeah, I remember watching Lee Evans and Peter Kay and Billy Connolly. Yeah. I find it really funny, I used to love Vic and Barb and shooting stars and all that stuff. And then I knew, so I knew there was like arena comedians. Then my nan and grandad took me to Benidorm on holiday and I saw a comedian, like a club,
Starting point is 00:15:20 like a, what is, like a Benidorm comedian. Yeah, yeah. And that was great, so I knew there was those two kind of things. And then I remember Stuart Lee's show was on once. My Brothers Have Sessed With That Blank. He's brilliant man. But I'd never seen, that was a different kind of stand up. And it was like, I think it was at the stand in Glasgow.
Starting point is 00:15:37 So it was like a smaller club. I was like, oh, well he's like, I know he's different to them. And I know he's different to the Benidorm guy. So like, oh, there's a few different things. And I'd always like see funny things and like do like just like on the playground or whatever or to my mates like this is good, this is funny. And then when I got to like 24 I just signed up to do a gong show.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Do you know what a gong show is? No. A gong show. It's like a competition really for like new people. Yeah. You go and you get five minutes to do your act and there's audience with like a cards in the in their hands And if you get three red cards, you're off Really brutal. Yeah, but I did it and I managed to get through the five minutes and I was a car
Starting point is 00:16:18 I was buzzing then from that day. I was just went after I was just so hooked couldn't get enough. That's brilliant Yeah, so you know, it's like when you find something new it's like oh this is so good and then I got into like Facebook groups and I went to another gig and met another guy who knew another guy before you know we were like we were all in the car together going to Bristol to do Five Minutes and that's fantastic isn't it? It's sometimes yeah. And have you done Edinburgh? I've done a few Edinburgh's yeah. A few yeah. Yeah I miss Edinburgh I'm not going this year it's great Edinburgh. Is it brilliant? You've never been as a punter or? I've done a few Edinburgh's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I miss Edinburgh. I'm not going this year. It's great Edinburgh. Is it brilliant? You've never been as a punter or?
Starting point is 00:16:48 I've been once but only for a couple of days. No, I've not done it. I've not done it properly. I know how much I'd love it. You would absolutely love it. It's brilliant. It's brutal. It's hard and all that. And it's expensive. But it's just, Edinburgh's a great place firstly to be in. Yes, yeah. And it's just like, there's comedy all day, every day. Yeah, it's wicked, it's good, it's bad, there's mental stuff. It's amazing, yeah, the Fringe is awesome. I hope it never dies really, it's great. Yeah, I'm sure it won't. Yeah, people still.
Starting point is 00:17:15 People love it, don't they? Yeah, there's always middle class people that are going to go and watch it. I did some reading, I can't remember what it was. My memory's getting really bad. Really? No, no, it's... Really? Yeah, I feel like... Have you got stuff on your mind, memory's getting really bad. Really, no, no, it's. Really? Yeah, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Have you got stuff on your mind, other stuff? No, no, it's not that. I think it is learning lines, freestenders. Learning lines, throwing it away, learning lines, throwing it away. Yeah. That I think I've thrown a lot away. That shouldn't have gone.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Yeah, your brain's holding it in almost like a waiting room. Yeah. And then it's going out again, it's not going into the main. No. That's interesting that is. What have you thrown out?
Starting point is 00:17:52 But there's some stuff you- Just lots of things. I keep really special bits, but when people go, oh do you remember when you were seven and you were at school and you had that teacher and I go, I haven't got clue, no. Yeah, wow.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Don't remember any of it. I'm I haven't got clue. No. Yeah. Well don't remember any of it I'm kind of like a good early childhood. Yeah, can remember Early childhood stuff. Well, actually what I've realized is if you can remember anything before the age of eight, it was probably bad Scott I think it's like it's scar. Yeah, and then I can remember the last six months By reckon like me The whole my 20ss I can't really remember which sounds like I was a big party guy but I think I just wasn't paying attention. Fine. I think it's more that. Okay yeah. And then my short term
Starting point is 00:18:34 is pretty good but yeah there's like a huge like I get like a Facebook memory pop up and I'm like who where's that? Yeah. It's um yeah scary isn't it? People come up to me and they're like do you remember I thought it was so great wasn't it do you remember when we did that zoom in lockdown I'm like oh yeah it was great I thought oh the fuck are you so bad yeah my memory's good really but stuff like that like there's certainly a period where I just can't remember anything I think it's just busy we were busy we are just don't think too much into things yeah it's going to enjoy what you're in now enjoy absolutely enjoy what're doing here, do you know what I mean? This is as good as anything.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Thanks for that. Are you still playing football? I'm still playing, yeah. I'm having some time off though. I'm having the next couple of months off. Because I've got so much on, work wise. You can't do everything, can you, sadly? That's nice that you're like that though, because some people do do everything,
Starting point is 00:19:24 they're just never at home. Yeah I've definitely done that and burnt out or I'm getting resentful of things I once enjoyed. Yes yeah. Like I've got to go football like you shouldn't be like that. No no no no. And also you've just got to, I'm quite good at not taking the piss at home. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:19:40 I think if you can't take the piss when it comes to doing everything you've got to be at home and get stuck in a bit. Do you do what I mean? I think if you... You can't take the piss when it comes to doing everything. You've got to be at home and get stuck in a bit, ain't you? Do you do the bins? Do the bin. I do a lot. I do a lot at home. Do you? I do a lot at home, yeah. Well, I think it's a... I feel like I'm doing a lot. What do you mean by a lot?
Starting point is 00:19:56 Because my listeners will love that. They'd love to know what sort of chores you classes a lot. I think they would enjoy it. Okay. I feel like I'm walking into a trap here. No, no, honestly. It'd just be lovely I double seven double eight twenty nineteen nineteen let us know what you think I do washing put it in put it in hang it out get it in put it into piles the things I know where they go so my wife's
Starting point is 00:20:26 pajamas pants and socks know where that go I'll put that away a sports stuff whenever that goes other things I don't know where they go just leave Ding! Mark does that, it's brilliant. Yeah good. Dishwasher loading and unloading. Ding! That's me. Wiping the sides down. Very good. Mark don't do that. Yeah. I tell you what I'm not so good at is raising the kids. Right. Do you know what I mean? Sometimes I'm wiping sides down because I can't stand the mess. Whereas actually I should be doing some duplo. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:01 I... You don't understand how much I've done that. Yeah, it's... Where I'm cleaning, polishing, washing floors and I think why have I spent two hours... Yeah. ...when I should be in there with Joni doing Lego? Yeah, but my wife's brilliant at that. She'll have...why I'm doing all that, I think I'm doing loads. Yes. But actually I'm doing nothing really. She's in there doing the good stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Even my mum's the same. I go round my mum's and take the kids around to see her and she's in there doing the good stuff even my mom was the same I go out my mom's and Got take the kids around to see her and she's just like busy just making like sandwiches and that for the people just It's a habit though it is what you like but me and my I say to my often with I say to him and this does this Sounds awful actually now But anyway, the listeners know us but I'll turn around to him on a say we're both home on a Saturday we get really excited we're home we're both home on a Saturday we can have a great time we turn around it's eight o'clock and none of we've always both done is be running around and the kids are just doing what they do and I go with this thing needs to stop yeah
Starting point is 00:21:58 we're not having quality time together there's got to be a middle ground in they she I've got a you know if we did it all my wife's way, the kids would be the most well-rounded kids imaginable, but they'd have nothing to eat or wear. Yeah. Whereas if they did everything my way, the house would be spotless, but there'd be probably serial killers.
Starting point is 00:22:17 So it's hard, you need somewhere in between that, I think. Little balance, yeah. Yeah, but I'm telling you, I'm not very good at, I need to do stuff. I need to be like, wiping. I do, I find so I'm not very good at I need to do stuff. I need to be like Wiping I do I find it amazing when I hear people I know and they say oh, yeah We watched a box set Saturday afternoon. Oh, could you sit down in the afternoon watch box? It's obviously honest. Yeah I'm terrible. What is if I have like Don't last couple weekends if I have one beer yeah, it's say 2 p.m.. On a Saturday I'm the rest of the afternoon. I'm not gonna weird like I'm out of it. I'm like I'm not pissed
Starting point is 00:22:50 But I'm not tired and not with it. It's a horrible feeling. I think one drink you can't have one you just can't do it There's no point. Yeah, I'd rather have a cup of tea stay energized. I would be better off either I'm going out drinking or having none I'm honest. I feel did you know I'm saying do you ever get that way? Yeah, I'm going out drinking or having none. Honestly, I feel, do you know what I'm saying? Do you ever get that? Where you go, I'm like, I'm useless. I can't, especially in the heat, I'm no useless. Funnily enough, yesterday afternoon,
Starting point is 00:23:12 it was 34 degrees, wasn't it? You're stupid. Right, it was ridiculous. Cat weather, I'd say. It was too hot for a cat, my head was sweating. My scalp was running with sweat. Yeah. I did a little lunch for me and my nieces.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Yep. We had a little glass of Sancerre. A what? Ice? A little Sancerre, white wine Josh. Oh Sancerre, yeah I've never heard of that. Have you not? No, sounds nice.
Starting point is 00:23:35 It's really nice. Yeah, yeah. It's really nice. So I just say to the guy. Glass of Sancerre please. Yeah. You probably wouldn't get a glass in a pub, it'd be a bottle. Okay. But I think you'll enjoy it, have a go. Yeah I'll try that. Or maybe pick one up yeah and your wife might really like it
Starting point is 00:23:50 I pick one I don't know where to start picking up a bottle of Sancerre. Err, Sainsbury's? What I'm just, I'd have to ask somebody find me some Sancerre. Where's that where's that from? France. Oh yeah yeah she Yeah, she loved that. I'm gonna do that Yeah, or you could go for a mercer Mercer mercer, please Can I get a I? I'll have a son sir, yes and
Starting point is 00:24:21 Monso for the lady, please Yeah, sorry. Yeah. Sorry. What was that, sir? Erm, for the lady here, a Monceau, please. I'm very, very sorry, but I don't think that's the wine. Do you mean Merceau, sir? I'd love a Merceau, if you got it.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Thank you very much. So it would work, it'd pan out? It would pan out in the end? If they're willing to meet me halfway, we'd willing to meet me halfway we'd get what you needed. Yeah, and you'd expect that. That's nice. So do you have a drink at home with your wife? Not really, I like to... I'm on the Guinness Zero
Starting point is 00:24:54 in the house. Yeah. And then out and about, I'm on a lager really, or an IPA or a Guinness. Yeah, I like a neck oil. I love a neck oil. The townows? Yeah, I like a neck oil. I love a neck oil. Yeah, the town where I live, there's a pub that does that, that's an option. That's good.
Starting point is 00:25:11 That's come in. People are shocked at how much that's going to cost you, but it's there if you want it. It's there if you want it. It's there if you want it. Or I'm on, if I'm not drinking, I'm on a Ghost Ship IPA. Yeah, right, okay. Which is 0.5% alcohol. Nice. I like the brew dogs the
Starting point is 00:25:27 Brew dog yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're all right. They're all right, and I like no no. I like the lucky saint is good I haven't I mean, I'm not a massive beer drinker. So you're a mother Son so I've got stood off both of them now Come on Can I just do with what I had before please same again I'd have to say it again. No it's good I'm asking you because if you start drinking at home with your partner it gets quite habitual. Yeah I think so. So Mark and I do drink at home. I wouldn't say to a bad level but if I went to the doctor they'd say
Starting point is 00:26:01 that's too much alcohol to be drinking in a week. Yeah and are you telling the truth there or are're taking it. No, I'm taking it right down. Yeah, and even so he's saying. Too much. Yeah. So if he knew the truth. It's dangerous levels I think. Yes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:13 But we are doing really well, we're going no, Monday to Wednesday now. Monday to Wednesday, does that include Monday and Wednesday? Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Okay. We're not, nothing. Yeah. Thursday I like a drink, Thursday's a good day for Okay. Yeah. Nothing. Yeah. Thursday I like a drink. I like... Thursday's a good day for me. Yeah. I can leave Saturday. Just look, we're recording this on Wednesday today. Yes. You've already told me that you had a glass of... Oh yeah, no, I was
Starting point is 00:26:39 gonna tell you about that. Yeah, okay. Because of the weather. Yeah. It sort of went out the window. Right. Which is no excuse at all but it's like weather yeah, it sort of went out the window right which is no excuse at all But it's that it's lovely and warm How can you not when you've sweated your bollocks off all day sit in the garden with a nice alcoholic beverage? Yeah, that's fair That is fair. I like your father if I was your doctor. Okay, but yeah, so we will go back. Yeah There's no problem. I'm gonna come on day. Yeah, you did as go back. Yeah, there's no problem. I make you ever doing come Monday. Yeah, you did as well Glaston happened. Yeah, okay. I made a bit of people in and out. Yeah great time bit of a mini-fest at home Yeah, I didn't get tent up or anything. But the telly was on all weekend with music on it. Yeah, so
Starting point is 00:27:18 And then the day after that Monday, yeah, it bled into Sunday. Yeah, I watched it all Sunday evening Yeah, and then it was really warm and to be quite honest with you. I was so tired I text my niece and said I'm fucking so I'm over. It's gotta be over the dog. I just got one. Yeah And then to pre-over doing today you think if it's yeah, because Emma's here Yeah, and I've not seen him for ages. Yeah, so we're probably gonna have a bit of lunch and I'll probably think well I'm I'm in solo. It'd be rude not to yeah, so going to have a bit of lunch and I'll probably think, well I'm in sorrow. It would be rude not to. Yeah. So I'll just have a little glass of something. Yeah, so that's Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday all drunk every day there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I've got friends around tomorrow night as well. That's Thursday. Yeah. For a rosy, rosy evening. A rosy evening at four. Yeah, okay. Yeah. And then you're into the weekend then. We're doing Rosy and Board Games tomorrow night. Oh, that'd be fun. Do you like board games? I do actually. Do you? Yeah, I don't know loads of them. My friend James Cuck who's a comedian in the Midlands loves board games tomorrow night? Oh that would be fun. Do you like board games? I do actually. Do you? Yeah I don't know loads of them. My friend James Cuck who's a comedian in the Midlands loves board games. I stayed in an Airbnb the other day and I opened the drawer and there was something called Terror Attack. Have you seen this? No. It's called War on
Starting point is 00:28:21 Terror. Have you heard of this board game? No I haven't. It comes with balaclava included. Okay. I don't know how you play it, but... Is it a children's game? I think it is. It's for the family, yeah. Oh, okay. There's like a board, balaclava, and I think you've got, I don't really know how it works, but... Could be one to... I like scatter greys, frustration. Yeah, okay, yeah. Happy families, the cards. Yeah, that's nice. Yatsi? Yatsi, what, happy families, the cards. Yeah, that's nice. Yatsi? Yatsi, what's that?
Starting point is 00:28:48 With a dice. Oh, I don't think I've played that. Oh, it's brilliant. Yeah. You get five dice, you throw them up, and then there's different groups, you've got to group them up and you've filled in a four. Oh, it's brilliant. Oh, I'd like that.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Yatsi's really good. I used to like, what is it called? Payday. Ah! Did you have Game of Life as well? I'm not sure, what's that one? the one where you are I've still got all these at home I'm a hoarder I've got two wardrobes for big board games yeah I tell everyone else to get rid of their stuff they'll come in they will
Starting point is 00:29:12 they will won't they yeah and you start and you've got a little car and you're a little counter and then you take the career path or the family path that's nice and you get your house you get your kids in it it's so good oh that's that's like sims it is like analog sims yeah yeah that's fine what do I used to like I always wanted mousetrap but I could never set it up too hard to set up yeah I like payday did you have screwball scramble oh you got no chance I'm not my mom's not getting involved in that no No why? Just too much, too much setting up and ball bearings going everywhere and all that. My dad actually stamped on operation on Christmas Day. Oh did he? Yeah, he was trying to sleep,
Starting point is 00:29:56 me and my sister trying to operate on this guy, bzz bzz, the kids just, okay, that's bzz bzz, we got into a point where actually ended up stomping on a operation on Christmas Day Did he have his jeans on and his shirt and his shoes? Yeah, that's a that's a pre eight-year-old memory actually Yeah But I get it I got I did I tell you now if I was full up I wanted a quick kip after the Queen's speech and that was going on. Yeah, it would probably get checked out the window Yeah, so now board games are great man. I feel like it's cool again now. Yeah they're coming back. I think if you're trying to get a board game out ten years
Starting point is 00:30:32 ago you're getting really cured. You're getting dirty looks, you're getting the lot. Yeah whereas now I think people are like yeah go on yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah, we'll have a board game. Uno abroad. Uno? Yeah, Uno abroad. Always abroad though, isn't it? Yeah, it's kind of like, um, on the sun lounge, on the balcony. But why is it, why do we never do that in the garden? Um. Because we'll get out a few card games in the summer in the garden, never an Uno. You won't, well yeah, it's interesting that. You can play it with a pack of cards, normal pack of cards.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Anyway, there you go. Yeah, there you go. Yeah they are. I've got some questions for you if you don't mind. It's just a few things that I'd like your opinion on. Yep. Which are important for the pod and the listeners. The first one has been quite a large talking point really for about eight nine months if you go into a supermarket Josh yeah and you've got a bag for life mm-hmm would you fill up your bag for life not to no scanning shop here right you're filling up your bag and you're taking it to your till to then unpack for someone to do
Starting point is 00:31:45 or you to do tell me your thoughts on it. It's a no from me the same as we're saying about walking around in trucks with bombs I'm not gonna no one's gonna believe that I'm paying for that if I'm if I'm preloading a bag for life pre till I'm getting followed very closely so it's in a bag for life, pre-till, I'm getting followed very closely. So it's in a bag for life on the bottom of the trolley, stuffing on top, then load the things onto the conveyor belt. Little look, do you want to look under the bag for life for a lot of the time? Could you have a little, just lift that up for me? Lay them out through in. Are people doing that? Are people...
Starting point is 00:32:27 My other half, my fiance goes in absolutely bald as brass. He's got his bag he fills it all up. He doesn't feel uncomfortable. Yeah that's great. But look, he is quite smart. Oh yeah I'd let him, yeah I'd trust him. I don't think I'd bat an eyelid. Yeah yeah. But I do understand what you mean yeah, so now that's that's my method But you know if it whatever works for the individuals would watch what I'd say yeah, I'm pleased you're with me though Yeah, brilliant absolutely brilliant. You got a trolley token. I have got a trolley token. Yeah little Yellow smiley face. Oh, yeah one of them that is in the
Starting point is 00:33:04 Cupholder of the car in the central bit there Sometimes my wife has one on her keys. Yeah, I'll chuck a pound in you know I took a pound in the trolley not a problem It's something for you if I want to get a trolley token for the merch hmm. I Can't charge a pound for it No, you can't I'm not a loss of it. Yeah, everyone wants me to do a trolley token. Yeah But if I do a trolley token for free quid, yeah surely Why would anyone do that? But I think this is this is why I think what we do there now is it's a key ring
Starting point is 00:33:43 It's a key ring and a trolley token do you know what I'm saying it's as simple as it's a simple fix I've been talking to Maria about this fucking trolley token and how we're gonna do it and we haven't thought of it yeah that alone is just yeah it's playing the whole thing wide open. That's fantastic. You probably look... I can get a fiver... do a fiver there. I think people would pay a fiver for that.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Or... Like a Pandora style charm bracelet. Yes. Because you've gone up its repeat business then. Do you know what I mean? They're coming back and coming back. It's birthdays, it's Christm then. Do you know what I mean? They're coming back and coming back, it's birthdays, it's Christmases. Do you know what I mean? It's
Starting point is 00:34:28 an option I think. I'm so sorry. If I help it you just really love. But that's a really good idea. The Pandora charm bracelets are, I don't know who wears those by the way, jingling and jangling around. They did, they did, my mum and I, about four or five years of birthdays and Christmases. Easy. Just nonsensical charms as well. There's a dolphin. Stick that on there. Well, did you?
Starting point is 00:34:53 Did you not do it sort of for? No theme to it at all, really. There's a sunflower. You know, there's a dolphin. There's a little, you know, there's a moon. Yeah. What's it mean? Doesn't matter what it means.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Get it on there, enjoy it. Yeah, it's true. Yeah. Yeah. Ask questions. It's quite rude when people ask questions I think about why did you get me this present? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Because I'm obliged to. Yeah. Is the answer. Yeah. Yeah. No, if we wanted to give presents, we wouldn't wait for a birthday. I'm giving you one now because I'm contractually, I've got to give you a present on your birthday.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Yeah, it's true. That is true. Right, I've got to ask you this one. Do you wash your feet in the shower? Or do you just stand in the shower and wash? Be honest. Can I ask where that question's come from? Is from? Yep, I do not wash my feet in the shower. Unless they are black, unless I've been outside in the mud, I don't physically pick my foot up and do it with my scrunchie thing. Okay, I'm going to be honest, I do. Right? I do, but only because when I was like a teenager, I went to Glastonbury actually and I came back with quite a nasty fungal infection on the big and index toe. Index toe?
Starting point is 00:36:17 Well next to the big toe. I'm sorry. No, it's okay. So I got in a habit of washing my feet feet more thoroughly and that I can kind of continued that that's kind of a So yeah, yeah, I do You got a fungal infection just because of going to Glastonbury for four days. I think my feet were sweaty I was in football socks for some reason
Starting point is 00:36:40 Yeah, yeah, I'd probably say like a trench-foot kind of thing. Yeah, I know Yeah, not to equate my four days at a music festival to Being you know at the Somme But yeah trench-foot I think And then the lastly if you were a bra, yeah if Do you know I don't know. But if you did, would you... It's hard with the under...
Starting point is 00:37:10 Right, I've got to get this. You're not exercising in it, okay? Okay, how big's my chest in this? What we're talking, size was? Oh, like a 34D. Wow, I'm blessed. I'm blessed, yeah. Well, you've spent a lot of money yeah yeah you put your bra on yeah now I can go there's a big debate going on mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:37:33 I was honest I've seen I've seen on last in the debate it's raging debate is raging back and forth I don't wash my bra every time I wear it I've got a couple that I like I haven't got time it's time I wear it. I've got a couple that I like. I haven't got time. It's not ready. Yeah and what's the argument there? Is it because it's touching your body directly? Yes. Yes. I'm not working out in it. I wear sports bras. No, you just day to day. Day to day I'm putting it on.
Starting point is 00:37:56 You're popping in, you're doing a podcast, you know. I think every three days I would. Would you? I'd treat that like the same way I'd treat a work uniform. Okay. Do you know what I mean? Yep. I'd probably, you know, yeah three days, three days, I'd wash it Wednesday and Sunday.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Wow. So I'd do a three and a four. So it's ready for Monday again. That was really quick and quite specific. Yeah, I just know how I'm just trying to schedule it now. Right. Yeah, I do. Sunday, so it's ready for your Monday.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Wednesday, or it depends on what I've got on a Thursday. Little midweek spruce. Presumably I'd have more than one, but I'd have like a wash and a wear. You would have a wash and a wear, but this one's so comfortable that I don't like taking it off. It's just a wear and a wear. Wear and a wear. Yeah. But I think, I just wondered. Yeah that's where I'm at. But you know it's obviously to me to speak you know with this easier said than done in it. Do you know what I mean? You go into these things with the best of intentions and then before you know it you're in a
Starting point is 00:39:02 you know drinking every day in the same bra. That's yes sir not washing your feet yeah unraveling whole life unraveling well don't be worried about me when you leave me because I am alright you should yeah yeah yeah well just reached you know if you are struggling you've got people around you do you mean you got me in there you got a you know at the end of the phone all right Josh okay thanks ever so much, you're welcome and thank you so much for doing this My pleasure, thanks for having me, good fun in it, I like this, it's a laugh isn't it? Yeah thank you mate Alright, well you promised to come back at some point? Yeah definitely, thank you, yeah thank you very much Cheers, hope everyone enjoyed that because for me, that's a dream come true, one off the old tick list as they say. Keep listening
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