Life with Nat - EP144: Nagging with Auntie Linny #14 - walking, weight loss jabs, and wanting things now

Episode Date: August 20, 2025

A proper wandering catch up with Linny as her and Nat take a literal wander. Lots of chat about the weight loss injections and what that all means for everyone now. Do get in touch with your thoughts ...on that, Nat's book tour and her Cooking With The Stars progress! Enjoy!! Please subscribe, follow, and leave a review. xxx You can find us in all places here; ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podfollow.com/lifewithnat/view⁠⁠⁠⁠ INSTA: @natcass1 We're also on Facebook now too: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/lifewithnatpod⁠⁠⁠⁠ A 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@keepitlightmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ SHOW INFO: Life with Nat - it’s me! Natalie Cassidy and I’ll be chatting away to family, friends and most importantly YOU. I want to pick people's brains on the subjects that I care about- whether that’s where all the odd socks go, weight and food or kids on phones. Each week I will be letting you into my life as i chat about my week, share my thoughts on the mundane happenings as well as the serious. I have grown up in the public eye and have never changed because of it. Life with Nat is the podcast for proper people. Come join the community. ♥️ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:46 We're alive. Oh, I haven't done this for a while, have we, sis? No, it's lovely though, isn't it? So nice. And I've not taken you on this route. No. And I think you're going to really like it. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:00:57 It opens up and it's just breathtaking. Oh, goodness. me. I saw you, of course I did for Joni's birthday briefly. But you've, yeah, been busy as you, right? Well, we've been away, you've been away. Yeah. So our paths didn't cross, did they?
Starting point is 00:01:12 No. Your holiday sounded amazing. Yeah, it was lovely. And as did yours? Natalie, it was lovely. It was a bit of a bus month holiday. We swapped over this year. Yeah, I did the English one.
Starting point is 00:01:23 A British holiday. You've done the overseas holiday. And it was lovely to experience. Deben is beautiful I'm sure the girls have touched on this and they're on the pot they did with you the house was stunning Yeah lovely
Starting point is 00:01:37 The whole agency How they handled situations Isn't that nice though? No they were brilliant If you've got a good agency No it's brilliant They were brilliant What were they called?
Starting point is 00:01:49 No, no you're going to test me I think Pebbles is I don't know if that was the agency Pebbles It might not be I can't remember That's all right But they were I had calls to speak with them
Starting point is 00:01:58 they were polite they were professional it's just it just felt like a bit of a different bit of service for a change just a different world to what we've got around here i think it is everything's a bit slower i was talking to someone yesterday about it and they said i think it's just where we're very close to london yeah and that is we're near the capital aren't we so busy all the time whereas down there it's sort of that little bit it's just a it's just a little bit everything's a little bit there's still very much the um quintessentially british way of you know acknowledging people yeah you go into a restaurant dogs are welcome you know children are welcome nothing's too much trouble no it's lovely um everyone we met there was you know even down to
Starting point is 00:02:50 contractors that had to come in because we had a bit of an issue with toilets all very polite so we've heard Oh, yeah. But again, they just, they were so good. They just did what they had to do. They compensated us for it. Honestly, it was very impressive. Even the, you know, Sainsbury's delivery men. Well, just nice. They're polite. It's just a different, yeah, they're having a conversation with you, not just dumping the shopping on the floor. You do get the odd nice one here. No, I'm generalising. No, but I know what you mean. It does just feel. But it just felt. Or is that where we're not in, you're not in a rush.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Maybe. not as you know impatient because you've got to get on with stuff do you sort of relax as well which makes others relax I don't know I guess there's an element of that although I'm not sure I relaxed because it is staying in the house
Starting point is 00:03:37 you're still doing there's a lot of work especially when there's a lot of you and a lot of children well it's like you said about you know once you've done breakfast you clean that out it's time for lunch oh no it was relentless I mean my goodness me I unloaded and unloaded two dishwashers I don't know how many times a day. Sink was permanently full
Starting point is 00:03:56 and having, no, it was, in that regard it was full on, but do you know what? It was still lovely to wake up together for breakfast. The views were stunning. Well, it's a rare thing to spend that amount of time together, you know, solidly. Lovely for Dave 60th.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Lovely memory. So lovely. And the night of his birthday, the chef he was... God, the food looked unbelievable. Natalie was incredible. It looked incredible. Honestly, we did tell him about you. Yeah. and the show you're program you're doing
Starting point is 00:04:25 no he was again made it look very easy um rent my t-shirt on a brown box what just now it's a shame and I forgot my jungle formula
Starting point is 00:04:36 so I'll probably be bitten a life oh my here we go no it was lovely I would do it again the only thing is the weather you do I do feel
Starting point is 00:04:47 if you haven't got the weather on side it does change the holiday Yeah, of course it does. We got lucky. Well, our holiday consisted of getting up, putting a swimming costume immediately on. Applying sun cream and just sitting by the pool. And how therapeutic is that?
Starting point is 00:05:02 It was. It was really nice. I read all my book. Lovely. Have you got the flat share yet? I haven't. I've got it for you at home because I've finished in case you want to try and jump on this one. Yeah. Because your last one was very successful, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:05:16 We're really well. Yeah, and I haven't read that one either. But this one's really nice and chilled and easy. read so I'd give it to you even if you just start in and let me know but it'd be lovely for you to do that excellent um lovely to get out for a walk it's just not it's actually
Starting point is 00:05:32 milder than you realise is it yeah yeah what a cracking day we had yesterday what was it after Joni's birthday no well I don't know what happens that oh no blueberries yeah oh wow they're lovely yeah um it was Johnny's birthday joanie was nine on Saturday so we got the TP 10
Starting point is 00:05:52 up she didn't really want to do a lot and it was just a lovely relaxing weekend with all her friends popping in and out and nice cake thank you to emma as usual and just a really nice chilled little couple of nights in the tent playing games she's easily pleased joanie isn't she very very easy yeah she's nice to see because again everything in terms of these birthdays feels so pressured that you've got to do X, you've got to do Y, you've got to do that. Yeah, none of it. She's quite simple, which is. And it looked lovely what you did.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Yeah. The Tee P and that. And in the evening, because you left before it, you know, before it got dark, Mark had done all the fairy lights with the Christmas ones. So they look really pretty. So they look pretty, you know. Yeah, love it. But no, that was really, really nice.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I feel like I've stopped sort of feeling so bloated after holiday. I was going to say, did you put, wait. ate so much. Oh yeah, probably half a stone, I reckon. Did you, Natalie? Easily. I was having spinach and feta pastries and all the paper. Oh, my God, so lovely. But not
Starting point is 00:07:00 that, it doesn't, listen, it doesn't matter, does it? I'm not talking about me being big or being whatever. Everyone is what they are. But you yourself can feel uncomfortable. You know how you feel, don't you? Of course. Of course. So as soon as I got back last week, I started eating
Starting point is 00:07:15 really healthy, having my of in your coffee in the morning my wool powders lunchtime maybe some scrambled egg bit of avocado because I've got so many bloody tomatoes
Starting point is 00:07:27 and courgettes as you know even just chopping those up and just frying those and just having that in a bowl and then in the evening a bit of chicken a bit of salad and I feel much better
Starting point is 00:07:39 I haven't weighed myself but I can tell already that excess is going away and I don't feel as bloated and I came on this week so that's good that I feel that way but yeah
Starting point is 00:07:52 it's very difficult to lose though don't you think? I feel like as you get older it it gets more difficult that's why watching all these people disappearing in front of you well you're like wow it's like just a given well I did want to talk we've been talking
Starting point is 00:08:09 haven't we ourselves personally and I think before we start this conversation everyone is entitled to do exactly what they want to do good luck to you but for me the jabs the manjaro and there are other names
Starting point is 00:08:25 aren't there? Yeah, Zen pick but the jabs for me I just am finding it quite scary because what I've found and this is me being really honest is certain people around me who have done it now possibly
Starting point is 00:08:43 look smaller than me and I feel oh my god i've got to be doing something yeah i feel really so it's bit you under pressure it makes me feel and i am so not like that but the volume of people i've seen and the weight loss has been so quick it's making me feel like am i a bit of a failure which it's just a mental thing i think but you know all the weight of stuff over the years with DVDs and all that i don't know if it's just triggered me a little bit yeah seeing all these people losing weight really quickly yeah and i get it is that frustration whereby you think, do you know what, I'm walking every night, just to sustain my weight.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Well, look at what you do. I mean, it's incredible. There's a lot of effort. And I haven't walked for a few weeks because Tina and I, like you, our paths haven't crossed. I've been away. She's been away. She's now away again. And whenever you go away, you go out of your routine, don't you? Absolutely. But I'm really torn with my thoughts about it because... If you've gone to to a doctor and they have said we think this will benefit you I understand it right totally completely different
Starting point is 00:09:53 I was like obviously like you everyone around me is on it yeah doing it and I just feel like I remember my dad was a diabetic and he was diagnosed in his 40s and it was quite a frightening thing then again like anything it wasn't so
Starting point is 00:10:13 heard of no of course Obviously, we didn't have social media then and you did not, you know, there probably was loads of people that had it, but you just didn't really appreciate how common it was. And I remember mum being distraught and they all, it was like it was the end of the world. Well, it is a really, really. And it is because ultimately, in the end, for my dad, it did kind of cause his demise. Yes. Because of his diabetes, he had a stroke and the stroke eventually took him. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:10:37 But I always remember, bless him, we'd be sitting there eating and we'd be tucking into our pasta and I'd be eating my free cream slice. and he'd sit there going I could eat this entire table I'm so hungry and he'd be like anyway he had a lovely diet it was a very good cook after mum died
Starting point is 00:10:56 he married late on in life so he was very self-sufficient obviously lost mum and he used to grow all his own vegetables I know I remember coming around to the greenhouse I remember right so he would always eat well
Starting point is 00:11:07 but I just always remember him saying I'm always so hungry and I think my goodness if this injection had been around then. For him, he wouldn't have struggled so much. Well, he wouldn't have had to constantly feel that hunger pain. So, you know, because this ultimately is devised for people with diabetes, isn't it, amongst other things?
Starting point is 00:11:27 Yeah, absolutely. So I totally agree. People with medical condition, absolute no-brainer. However. But I'm reading so much stuff, Lynn. One minute you read, there are 35 health benefits, it's doing this, they're doing that, the Manjaro babies, it's brilliant, which is great. But then the other side of the coin is there is a lot of muscle wastage.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Because you're losing a lot of weight but you're not working out, are you? But then you should work out. This is it. But then maybe people are on sort of the larger side. You haven't got confidence to work out, to go to the gym. So maybe it's a fantastic kickstart for people to just get down to a certain weight where they feel confident to put on some leggings and go to the gym. I think that's good.
Starting point is 00:12:10 The people I'm talking about are my size. size 10 stroke 12 but then I don't know how they're doing it Natalie because you can get it because I did my BMI today yeah to see where I thought now apparently the BMI you've got to be over what is it Natalie I don't know I was 20 we are talking about this everybody but we're not pros we're just having a chat like you would
Starting point is 00:12:32 and my memory so bad everyone I'm so sorry is it 28 or it's quite high yeah 24 and a half or so my BMI fell below yes what you have to be to warrant well I should hope so It's nothing of you. No, but I just wanted to do it for my own understanding of how people are getting on this that are not particularly large and just need to go on a sensible diet and do a bit of exercise.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And I'll probably shed a stone naturally. This is what I mean. This is the thing that I don't get. And then there are certain people. Because we are a nation. And again, I was discussing this with. my girls at work yeah we are a nation of we want everything now yesterday and quickly yep and easily so no time for nothing no exactly yeah so for instance people that say oh my goodness me
Starting point is 00:13:29 i've got lines on my face i can't have that so i'm going to go and have Botox yeah or i'm going to have fillers or i'm going to have plastic surgery yeah no one would think anything of that now you know Well, in terms of... Some people do. But again, there is... It's just become quite normal. It's become normal. But everybody looks the same.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Yes. Not everybody, but there are a lot of people that you look at and they look quite alike, a similar. If I'm being honest, I say, you know. Now everyone's going to have shed a load of weight and all look the same. I just, I worry for my kids. I worry for my girls. But what it's telling them.
Starting point is 00:14:06 I worry that body positivity. But Natalie, you need not worry for too long because generally, unfortunately, something that's too good to be true ends up being too good to be true because what they've done they've said that they're tripling the price of it so it's now going to become oh I didn't see that list oh yes
Starting point is 00:14:25 they're tripling the price of the manjara right okay so so they are in a bit of a panic about it perhaps I don't think it's that at all I think they're just making it it's a money more money yeah people that will be able to afford to continue to do it will just be paying way more yeah but you will have an element of people
Starting point is 00:14:44 that are not going to be able to afford to do it and therefore well then it becomes a have and have not again and a class issue which is even worse absolutely goodness for me absolutely so there's going to be so many people that are doing it and are on it and it's just about affordable for them
Starting point is 00:15:00 and they're going to have to stop and then what happens once you stop are they going to be able to maintain this is it people are frightened aren't they of coming off of it But that's a hell of a lot of money to spend. Mind you, people would say, but so is buying all the right foods, buying the organic staff, getting Brazil nuts at a £5 a packet,
Starting point is 00:15:22 joining a gym. What people are paying for it now, I feel like it's, yes, you can weigh that against all the other things one does to lose weight, doing your reformed Pilates, as you say, buying healthy food, taking bit and doing X, doing Y, doing Z. but once they've tripled the price and that's a different kettle of fish together. And also you remain
Starting point is 00:15:45 fit and healthy by going for a walk as does Sharon as does Tina like you said you can just walk or put a pair of trainers on and run like Dominic so I think it's down to I think there's a little bit of it where it's perhaps
Starting point is 00:16:03 just some people find it really difficult in their mind has it got a bit of a placebo effect also you're spending that money so you want it to work don't you I'm not saying it's not going to work but surely by spending that money and saying to yourself I'm going to
Starting point is 00:16:19 do this you're going to eat a bit better as well well again you know conversations I've had with colleagues they've said don't think that it's as simple as just injecting yourself and voila you're going to lose weight you have got to still be careful
Starting point is 00:16:37 in terms of what you're eating Of course. I mean, like I say, I really don't know loads about it. But I do think it is a subject. I guarantee you we get a lot of messages. I hope so. 0-7-8-219-19. I'd love to hear your thoughts. If you're on it, if it's changed your life, if you've had any negative, you know, usage of it. How easy it was to come by. Yeah. If you could be honest, I won't, you know, mention names.
Starting point is 00:17:04 But if you're doing it and you are on the right BMI for it, why are you doing it? why are you doing it or does anybody feel like me they would never do it but feel a little jealous of people disappearing in front of their eyes and I'm really usually not that sort of person
Starting point is 00:17:21 but it just makes me really want to train well it's a good thing because it makes me want to do it really properly then it worries me because if you start looking all tones and svel and you've lost a few pounds people think you've judged yourself and that's the problem as well again this is something that came up in conversation
Starting point is 00:17:37 Yeah. Now, anyone that loses weight naturally or people are going to, but at the end of the day, if that's what people want to believe. It doesn't matter. It's none of no one's business. You know how you're doing it and how you've done it. Yeah. And also, talking like you and I or whoever need to lose weight, as long as you're comfortable with yourself, when I'll come back from holiday, two days later, I had a photo shoot. And I thought, I'm really not fit. You know, I feel. bloated from the aeroplane everything just didn't feel right yeah lovely clothes i i told them get a size 12 so i'm just back from holiday beautiful clothes and i looked at it i thought why can't it's weird that actually there's nothing wrong with that size of course it isn't
Starting point is 00:18:26 but it's what you get used to isn't it i suppose yeah you know your own yeah you know your own body and you've been a certain size for many years now yes yeah you get used to be in that size and also i think natalie and most women will agree with this i say women because i think it's so much harder for women because of our hormones and the menopause and everything else we've got to be subjected to it's it's frightening how slowly it starts to creep up and on you and then the next thing you think good gosh i can't actually do these jeans up and you've gone to the next size and then you're like god these are now starting to feel a bit snug on me but that's all about the hormonal, it's all the middle
Starting point is 00:19:08 isn't it? The hips, the stomach, the bum, it's all that middle area. But again, again, you know, I want to say and that's why exercise is important and it is important. However, the manjara is proving that it is predominantly
Starting point is 00:19:24 about what you put in your mouth. Yeah, absolutely. Because you can be on the manjara, lose pounds by the minute. I love it. I love it that you can get on the manjara. Why is that bad? It's a mantra. Ro, but I love you.
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Starting point is 00:20:54 Yeah. Oh, yeah, I forgot what I'm saying now. It's my fault. You can be on it, but it's the food. Yeah, so you can, you're on it. So, yeah, it proves. that you are able to lose weight by not exercising. I'm not saying that's the right way.
Starting point is 00:21:11 It's 90% food. Yes. But again, when you get to my age or your age, you want to keep your muscles strengthened. You want your joints to work properly. So it's very, very important, a little bit of exercise. A bit of weight training, whatever. I mean, I've done nothing for ages.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Don't know what I'm talking about. But, you know, got the David Lloyd opening soon. Oh, that's, yeah. That's going to be good, isn't it? Wow. It's going to be a big change of that. I think it'd be really good for the family. And it's on for you, it's on your doorstep.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Yeah, it'd be great. You've got to just take advantage of it, haven't you? Absolutely. But no, it's an interesting one. It's really interesting. I have never known anything really like it in my lifetime. Absolutely not. Where people have probably dreamt of a miracle cure
Starting point is 00:21:59 to just be able to lose weight. Yeah. Without, like, feeling you're doing it. Having to do it too much. It must be quite amazing for people that have struggled all their life. And then all of a sudden they can see some, you know, some help. I am intrigued. I'm intrigued to see how it makes you feel.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Yeah. And how, you know, not having that hunger. Well, I've spoken to a few people. They've said that they're urgent, even for alcohols, calm down. I don't want to have a drink. Again, it's because that's all sugar, isn't it? Yeah. It's all sugar.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Yeah. So those sorts of things go away. Yeah. But also, they say it can in some cases also suppress personalities. Right. Whereas if someone is really bubbly, outgoing, an extrovert, they say it can. But look, I guess you've got to, the positives have to outweigh the negatives. Of course.
Starting point is 00:22:53 And for most people, that would be. And I think I would be that person too. If I felt that I'd got to a size where I'm just not happy and I could not, for love, love nor money lose weight if that was a way for me to even just kick start yeah i'm not saying i'm not saying i wouldn't do it no it's just scary because it seems very addictive because it's so quick of course and then suddenly you see people and you think i think you've done enough now yeah they're still going yeah and this is what i was another worry right so this is another thing that i again interested to hear from any listener who can maybe help me understand this side of it so for instance
Starting point is 00:23:34 Someone of my size, so I'm a size 10, I cannot be on it because my BMI is not to the level that it should be, okay? But let's say I had been a size 18 and I was on the manjaro and I get myself to a size 10, I can continue to do it. Be on it? If you are... So how does that one? No, not if you go and get it from a proper place and when they weigh you, they say you've made your mark, surely. No, I think you can continue to take a level that's called maintenance. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And it maintains your weight. Oh, fair enough. Look, I don't know. Oh my God, there's all tractors in here. We're going to get one over. God, this is amazing, isn't it? This is why I wanted to show you, isn't it? No, so those are the, I know.
Starting point is 00:24:24 They're the new houses that were built. That's around the corner to Elyas, isn't it? Yeah. Mike, it's lovely guys. What beautiful scenery. Isn't it? Yeah, open space. You should really get a photo.
Starting point is 00:24:37 It's stunning. It really is. A little photo. So peaceful as well. Here we go. Lovely. Beautiful. Pop that on the Instagram later.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Beautiful, beautiful. But yeah, I guess it'll be interesting to see in a few years' time. Where everyone is. Where everybody is. Because, again, financially, whether it goes up in price or not, which rumour has it. I've heard it from various sources now. It's definitely going up in price.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Yeah. I'd be interested to know, yeah, A, where everybody is and if there has been any sort of side effects or if people have come off it and put the weight back on. Yeah, I'm completely fascinated by it. That would be a bit soul distraught. And I just want to, I just hope that not everybody wants the quick fix straight. away if they are
Starting point is 00:25:35 16, 14, you know, 12. But people will, Natalie. You'll have the bride that's getting married in six months' time and she's up the gym every day and she's too busy because she's trying to organise a wedding. She really hasn't got times. And she thinks, no, I can just do the mangero.
Starting point is 00:25:55 It's, it, look, as I say, it's amazing, really. It's no different, Natalie. Dangerous stuff. But is it? Any different to, you know, beauty regimes that are quick fixes? Or maybe a herbal life or weight watchers or, I don't know. But that is still done over a pit.
Starting point is 00:26:15 You're not going to lose weight overnight with that, are you? With those sort of diets, I don't believe. I think this is a slightly different, you're injecting something in you. That's herbal life is not going to change your personality or suppress your appetite. Yeah, but I think you say that. What I would say is I think if you're saying, serious and you're on a bit of a mission when it comes to getting fit, you know, fit, healthy, I think you don't drink as much or you don't want to go to eat as much.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Your mindset is in a right place. Yeah. Yeah. So. Also, interestingly, if you speak to anybody that is into a fitness regime, be it a personal trainer, be it just your ordinary Joe blogs who loves their running. Yeah. And if you speak to them about it, they are anti it. Well, of course they are. I'm anti it. Why are you anti it? If you don't need it for medical reasons.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Yeah, but you could say to me, Oh, Lyn, I'm going to have a bit of Botox because I feel like I can start seeing lines. And I'd be saying to you, but you don't need it, but you feel you need it. No, and that's what I'm saying. To each and every one, you've got to do what you want. So how do you think all these people feel that have spent thousands and thousands and thousands of pounds on gastric bands and sleeves and now all of a sudden all they had to do yeah they've gone through an operation a major operation well that's life changing
Starting point is 00:27:42 oh i agree with you how must they be feeling when they don't know let us know someone i mean that is it a massive subject i think then we should try and um pencil in another one to hear people's stories about it which will probably be a lot of listener listener based but I think we should try and get that in quite soon just so it's a bit relevant and we can just finish it off and top of the tail it. Because there must be people now, when they listen to this, whenever it comes out,
Starting point is 00:28:10 they're going to be screaming at their... But I really mean it, you know what I'm like, I'm very honest, I am very fair, people need to do exactly what they want to do, but just for me, if you're not over a certain size... So if you were the size you were back in the day, because you know, you battled with your way. Very much so.
Starting point is 00:28:27 So again, I'm not sure I'm the right person that can pass any form of... judgment because I was blessed with my mum's DNA and I even though I beat myself up now because I want to be slimmer I want to be fitter you know I've got a not doing bad are you well but for me I still want more yeah we all do yeah but I've always as a young girl I didn't understand what dieting was till I sort of hit my 50s yeah yeah so I don't I don't really fully appreciate because it is genetics it is down to also genetics how you're brought up.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Of course. But also what I'm first of days, I don't understand. I can't appreciate women that have had years and years and years of battling with their weight. Yeah. And then all of a sudden this magic injection comes along and it's going to sort all their problems out. I literally overnight it. No, and then I think, well, brilliant. If you've struggled all your life and you're a certain size and like you said, it's over that BMI thing and you've been to the doctor and they think this is brilliant.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Go for it. Fantastic. I am talking about people who... Are a size 14. Size 14 who need to eat three nice meals a day, have a few nuts instead of a McDonald's. Then you could argue that is a bit lazy. For me? It's an easy cop out.
Starting point is 00:29:48 It's easy and it's a quick fix and it's like everything. We want our shopping yesterday. We want everything. Like you said, time. Yeah. We've got no time to do anything. So, yeah. And there's a lot of people out there don't really enjoy exercising.
Starting point is 00:30:06 No, and what about people who are beautiful and like to be larger? I wonder how they feel. Because there's some beautiful size plus models on Instagram and, you know, podcasters that are really, that Eliza listens to. It's all about body positivity. How are they feeling? No, this is going to really be a bit of a pill for them to swallow, isn't it? because they're trying to advocate that, you know, being slim isn't necessarily... The be on ender.
Starting point is 00:30:35 No. You can be cabacious. You can be big busted. You can have a huge bottom and you can still be... Rock it and be happy and look sexy. I don't know. So this is probably... Big worry.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Yeah. And as you touched on earlier, for young girls, again, what is this going to teach them? I mean, so like, is Eliza are aware of it? No, I was about to say, interestingly, on... holiday and Liza was showing me a tic-toker that she watches and a podcast and they're all body positivity curvy, larger than life right and she really likes watching that yeah but that's really good yeah because she's chosen to follow her yeah you choose who you watch don't you same as anything yeah yeah I think their age group Lynn they're not worried about it it's it's a it's
Starting point is 00:31:29 the 40s. It's the late 30s. You know what I mean? It's upwards of that. I don't think the younger generation at the moment are worried about it. But if they see everyone around them doing it. Worryed about what? Worried about being slim. Worried about being very slim. Do you not feel? I don't, I'm not, no, that's, it's really difficult. What I mean is I don't think a Manjaro conversation is happening in 14 year olds. Right. I don't think. Is Eliz are even aware of such a thing? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So she's heard about it. She's heard about it.
Starting point is 00:32:01 We talk about it. Oh, you do? What's her view on it then? A young girl. Again, I think she feels, if you've struggled with something. I mean, but again, she's getting that from me. Yeah. She's listening to my view.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Yeah, yeah. But I just think it's so much nice. Well, can you imagine there being, I mean, I guess you have to be of a certain age, do you? I'd hope so. I'm sure there might even be moms out there that will be saying to their daughter or son who's battled with their weight. Yeah. And they're now in their like 18, 19s and so.
Starting point is 00:32:29 well look why don't you do this and again I can be interested to know theory aren't people listening that and also when if your child is unhappy yeah you would do anything to help you so again yeah I get that too yeah yeah no different to if your child's got acne yeah yeah you know suffers with particular you know with people with polycystic heart syndrome can be very hairy or anxiety or whatever it is you just want to help your child so it's such a difficult one to critique absolutely well we're not critiquing we're talking and we're opening the conversation because we'd like to hear what you think i'm intrigued to hear the feedback um and again we're not any we're not experts on this topic
Starting point is 00:33:14 and it's just something we've touched on and said we'd like to discuss but yeah very interested to know what people's faults are on it no very good and also it is very conflicting because You know, the media wasn't really talking about it. Then all of a sudden they started to in a positive way. Yeah. Then they threw in a bit of negativity. That's what they do on everything. But generally, Natalie, it's been more positive than negative.
Starting point is 00:33:44 I've seen more positive things come out of it, absolutely. But again, is that a financial thing? Because the money that's being made. It's going to be trillions and trillions. Trillions. Trillions. Crazy. But now they're going to... That's house.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Yeah. That's lovely. Really lovely. That's sweet. Tucked away. I feel like I've not even seen that. No. That's why walking is lovely because you just see...
Starting point is 00:34:09 You see things you just don't notice when you're driving. Mark and Joni always have a go at me because I don't bike ride, do I can ride a bike. They say the walk you do, we could get to so and so and back again. I said, but it doesn't bother me not being that. I love walking. Yeah, me too. Which is good. Very much.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Did you see my message regarding... Oh, yeah, the walk, the St. Auburn's. So what is that then, Natalie? Friday is a night time. 10pm. Right. And it's walking 10 miles in St. Albans. It's just for women to feel safe again on the street.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Ah. And it's just a little 10... How's this come to you then? It's my lovely friend, Beth, who I knew from costume at EastEnders. Oh, okay. And she's organised the whole thing. Oh, wow. But I've got a bit of...
Starting point is 00:34:56 cold care now and I thought, no, I'm going to do it, I'm going to so anyway, if you fancy it. Yeah, we'll have to try and do that. That's Friday isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Obviously you've got work the next day, which is a shocker, but it won't. How long's that to walk in a say, do you think? What, it depends how we walk. What, is it 10 miles? Yeah. Yeah, that's doable, isn't it? Of course it is. Yeah. I think we did a half marathon
Starting point is 00:35:20 for the moonwalk. Yeah. I did that remark a little while ago. and I reckon I don't know we ambled around that as well we didn't power on through probably took three hours something like that
Starting point is 00:35:38 throwing off your brother did 17,000 steps today from Hartford to Broxbourne Blimey I mean he's disfigured his feet but that's a long old walk
Starting point is 00:35:49 Well he dropped me off to work because my cart's going to the garage and I had his and he said I said what am I dropping you off? He said, no, I'm going to walk. We're off from Harvard. So it's amazing what you can do when you...
Starting point is 00:36:03 Put your mind to it. Yeah, put your mind to it. And it's good. It's good for getting cleared your head. Gets the old body moving. These are nice houses as well. They're lovely, aren't they? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Don't feel like I've seen these before. Mind you, again, doesn't actually have much garden. And it always baffles me having these sort of... That's like four-beds houses. But that's new houses for you, Nataly. You've got no gardens.
Starting point is 00:36:30 No, because if they'd given you the garden that those size houses justified, yeah. Instead of four houses, they would only be three. And then it's not, you know, it's not as lucrative for the developer. No. But they are really nice. Yeah, they're good. Yeah, really lovely.
Starting point is 00:36:46 They went up quick. Where are we now, then? We're walking up here. Yeah. And then we're turning right. and we're near Elias. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Yeah, it's nice. Very good. I smashed it yesterday. What do you reckon? So you have, right, so yeah, I mean, I was reading your messages at work. I'm not taking it all in. I've got to be honest. So you decided to clear out.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Granddad's washroom. Right. And there was a dryer in there that hasn't worked for ages. Oh, okay. So they were stacked on top of each other, yeah? Yeah, yeah. So we've got that out. Oh, my goodness me, behind it.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Well, behind the dryer. Yeah, you know all the, where the pipe goes out on the wall? Oh, it was covered in, feel fluff. So anyway, tidied it all up. And then I said to Mark, I could do with a couple of shelves there. So off he went to the garage. Got a couple of bits of wood, chucked two shelves up for me. So you've got shelves above the washing machine now?
Starting point is 00:37:45 Yes. Right. It's very, don't get me wrong, it's makeshift. But I've got all my cleaning stuff now in one area. Right. Which then has freed up space. In the other cupboard. In my other cupboards.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Yeah. So on my vitamins, I know where things are. Yeah. Rather than it all falling out when you open it. So, yeah, I smashed it yesterday. I did a load of clearing out, loads of stuff that needs to go. What a lovely job, though, isn't it? It was good.
Starting point is 00:38:08 How rewarding is it? But you are doing it on a beautifully hot day. I know, and I thought that. Which, there are not going to be many of those left. Not really bothered. No, it doesn't bother you, does it? You have just come back from holiday, so fair to do. So, no, it was good.
Starting point is 00:38:20 So you've got rid of the dryer altogether? Yeah, because I've got one. I don't know. Who needs to dry? It's too much money. I mean, I do in the winter, really, but I'm just going to have the one. So you've got the, you're in your utility room,
Starting point is 00:38:32 a washing machine in a dryer. Correct. And then you've got now just a washing machine in your dad. That's it. Old utility room, fair enough. But you've still got all your washing powders in your utility room. I've got some. So I've got two, you know, repeats in each room.
Starting point is 00:38:50 But it just feels a bit nicer. I don't know why. It's probably not. It just makes you feel better. I'm sure it is now, there's nothing nicer than opening the cupboard. And as you say, not everything falls out and... Just going through things and then you're going through wires. What's this name?
Starting point is 00:39:05 I feel like I've never seen this either. You wouldn't have seen this really? I don't think you would have come this way, right. Pretty, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, no, there's nothing nicer than opening in a cupboard. You can find what you need. I did think of you.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Not everything, yeah. I think it's the most rewarding. I it flies at the moment the flies oh my is this because of the bins is it just summer and food bins and all that
Starting point is 00:39:33 no because I don't feel like my bins I because there's just well not now but there's just the two of us yeah Natalie my lounge you know it doesn't get used no so I've opened the lounge door and they're all dead in the carpet
Starting point is 00:39:46 dead and I bear in mind I do go in there weekly to give it a quick dust over and I went in to open the French doors to air it flies. I'm finding that I'm cleaning my windows every week now because the flies demotched them.
Starting point is 00:40:04 My dad's... I'm glad it's not just my house. Dave's going, we must have a dead animal underneath the ball balls or something. I've got about 400 pictures in Dad's old bedroom and I've got to take it all off but they're just blue, but it's thick. It's black. I've got to take
Starting point is 00:40:21 it all off. But where'd they come from? I don't know. No, it's weird. It's really weird because that's the thing. My lounge, the windows are closed, the door's closed. Yeah. There is nowhere other than the chimney breast, which is a bit unusual in itself. Yeah. Where are these flies coming from? There's carpet on the floor. Where will they get it? What gaps are they coming through? Where do they come from? No, it blows my mind. Vents. Oh, Ben. I have got, yeah. Trinks and vent. Smart was saying yesterday. Awful. But they're everywhere. I've never known anything like it. They're so stupid that obviously they hit their head on the glass of thousand times
Starting point is 00:40:59 and then they die by the window. And that's exactly, you find 30-odd on the floor. Oh, it's feels, isn't it? It's horrible, horrible. Yeah, that feels like a job in itself. But I've never known it. I've never known it in all the years I've been in my house to be like this. No, I feel that they've been particularly bad this year.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Maybe it's where it's just been warmer. Yeah. It's just been warmer. Yeah. We've got Lego Landlin Friday Oh gosh, yeah That's going to be lovely So is that an early start?
Starting point is 00:41:29 I think we should set off to Lego Land Roughly About our fate Oh, okay, so quite early start then Is that how long is that? Hour and off Oh, not too disastrous No
Starting point is 00:41:40 Lovely, that should be a lovely day I think the weather's dry Joan is so excited Oh, lover And it's Alfie's birthday Yeah, lovely Nice, the girls will enjoy it as well Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Eli's coming to it. Yeah, Elsie baby's coming. Yeah, so that should be lovely. They'll have a nice day. And I think it's dry, so... Yeah, it's fine. That's good. You don't want it hot.
Starting point is 00:42:00 No. Because you're wandering about the day. So, I've not been for years, so I can't wait. And Joni is so obsessed with Lego. Funny, isn't it? I don't think she's going to know what to do with herself when she sees all the... Well, it's a Lego world, isn't it? It's funny, in it how they just get fixated.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Alfie loves Lego. Yeah. it's good it's usually they say mathematician you know mathematical brains
Starting point is 00:42:25 and just you know concentration you've got a bit of concentration I think it's quite calming yeah
Starting point is 00:42:33 although Joanie still has the tele on when she does her and I say to her should we switch the tele off but she's only background she likes to have it
Starting point is 00:42:40 in the background which is fair enough it's all right so they're obviously using this school for some kind of class aren't they
Starting point is 00:42:46 sounds like it a souse or a yoga or whatever. But this is the school that's closed down, is it? Well, no, they're going together. Merging, yeah. Yeah. So that'll be interesting.
Starting point is 00:43:03 It's a perfect weather for walking, isn't it? Not too warm. A little bit of a breeze. Lovely. Showing we can't do this a few more times whilst Tina's away. Well, yeah, I mean, we could. I know, but it's, I'm working, I'm doing my audio book.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Oh, I'm recording it tomorrow. Have you not started? Is this the first? Wednesday, I'm doing it all in three days. Are you, Natalie? Yeah, it seems like a lot to me. So what do you do? Just literally read.
Starting point is 00:43:33 I'm sat in a booth, yeah. Yeah. And then people can just listen to it. They can listen to it from October. But it's, is that normally what, is that normally how it is? I mean, again, excuse my ignorance. Yeah, I think a lot of authors will read their own. Oh, right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:47 I didn't know that actually So, oh, amazing That'll be a busy few days But I'm looking forward to it And then that, again How's that, that launch is on the 9th of October That's it, yeah And that's starting off in where?
Starting point is 00:44:01 It is. At the Priory or at the bookshop? So the booknook, it's the booknooks event Because we had a laugh On the old WhatsApp Because everyone thought it was in the booknook I said, have you been in the booknook?
Starting point is 00:44:16 Yeah, no, I did too. And that's what I thought I thought you're not expecting a lot of people can get in there. And that's what I thought you're not expecting a lot of people turn up then because it's tiny in there. So it's her event associated with the bookwork. Right, but at the priory.
Starting point is 00:44:30 But apparently it's sold up very quickly and they might be moving to a bigger location which is nice to hear. Oh, what, they've had to re-locate. So you have to, you get a ticket, you have to buy a ticket. It's a ticketed event, yeah. What, and they've sold out? Yeah, it's good, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:44:44 That's incredible, that. So we'll see. So they're talking about moving? But the priory is quite a size, no? I don't know whether it's a room in there, Lynne. I don't know if they saw it all out for me, don't they? But if it were to be moved, it would only be, you know, extremely local to the area. If anyone's up to me, don't panic.
Starting point is 00:45:04 But it may still be within the priory, but maybe in a bigger room, perhaps. Maybe, maybe. Not sure. Oh, amazing. That'll be a really nice evening. You're not doing one sort of where near Islington or Stratford, kind of your, No, the neck of the woods Where you grew up, no No, no, I didn't know if you would
Starting point is 00:45:23 Yeah, whether they would have Maybe said, look, go back to, because I presume you speak about. Of course, yeah. No, I would like to Get home early. Terrible, aren't I? No, people were a little bit upset That I wasn't doing a few more sort of
Starting point is 00:45:40 Further afield, but I said this is a tiny, it's a tiny little book tour Just to kick it off. Yeah. And then in the future, I will definitely go further away. But that takes a lot of planning. Yeah, of course. You know, when you've got two children at home, guys, I don't like to be away from home often. So I try and do things a bit nearer to home. But I will bite the bullet next year. But you are, you're not just doing
Starting point is 00:46:02 it in where? You've got a few scattered. Yeah. I'm going to the we're all, going up to Liverpool. Oh, so you are doing. I'm not, I've heard of people from Devon, people from Edinburgh, people from Ireland. But I will get to you, I promise. So that'll be good. Amazing. So that's something exciting to look forward to. It'd be really nice. And what comes from it and feedback you'll get from it. I look forward to you reading it.
Starting point is 00:46:24 I was going to say, I look forward to reading it. I'm going to make that the October book for the book club. Brilliant. For everyone to read. Makes sense? I think so. That was a girl's idea. I was like, oh really?
Starting point is 00:46:34 It's a bit bigger. I did. They were like, no, course you've got to. Oh, no. Yeah, it makes complete sense if you're doing the old book club. Yeah, so that'll be nice. And what about your care in the community? Yeah, it's all going to.
Starting point is 00:46:47 really well the health and social care got a few days of that left we've got a little chat to do for that which would be nice oh course yes i'm so i've got a few days left on that i'm going to i'm actually going to northern ireland next week which will be really nice to do a bit of work for that what staying overnight yeah a couple of nights there uh so that's that and the girls the older i get the girls will have what mark will be around or Nanny Jackie's coming. Oh, okay. Nanny Jackie's coming to help.
Starting point is 00:47:20 That's good. Is it really bad that I just like to be at home? No. Oh, I've had a shocker, sorry. What? We should have crossed earlier. That's fine. I love being at home.
Starting point is 00:47:31 There's nothing wrong with wanting to be at home that today. I know. There's just a lot of these things and a lot of jobs that are travelling around. Yeah, I was going to say, unfortunately, your job is going to mean that there are going to be times that you can't be at home. No, I know. But you can't beat yourself up about that. No, I know. Because, look.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Have you been off today? Yeah. Yeah, so... I've been at home all day. You know, most people would have been going back to work, you know, be at work today. So you just got a way up. I know. You know, the hours you do spend at home with them.
Starting point is 00:48:01 And it's good for the girls as well. Yeah. Because it's, you know, makes them appreciate you a bit more. This is my favourite house. This is the one. This should be your house. It's beautiful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:14 And at Christmas, she puts the most beautiful reef up. Yeah. To you listeners, this is just such a picture. I can't take a photo of someone's house. Oh no, but it is stunning. It's stunning. It's walking distance from Elios. How good is that? Yeah. Oh no, it's lovely, Natalie. Come on. Very nice. Probably too big for me, but lovely.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Beautiful, beautiful. So nice. And how's work? How are you fitting everything in, Lynn? how you're feeling in yourself and there's plenty of people lots of listeners works manic i always say i don't know how linnie does it i do it the same as everyone else does just go on autopilot works manic i was so unwell when i come back from devon so i feel like i lost a week of my life i just hit a brick wall i think or i don't know it was very didn't feel well at all um yeah
Starting point is 00:49:11 no it's just it's the same old thing just on the same story different day. It's just very busy. Do you ever have to do anything to just unwind for a bit? What's your unwinding time? Mine. Is it a bit of telly? My walk, obviously. Very is like the key thing that I do to unwind, which I have missed because as I say, Tina and I, our paths haven't crossed. Yeah. We squeeze one walking in between our holidays. Yeah. Um, my telly, I do like a bit of TV. You've been watching anything good lately? Um, I watched that, um, the flight. Um, the flight. No, not heard about it And again, I'm terrible with names
Starting point is 00:49:51 The girl that was in Corrie Oh, Michelle Keegan No No, she was in it A few years ago, you all know her Samia? No Oh, that's all right
Starting point is 00:50:04 But anyway 300 people are telling me Sorry guys, my memory's terrible Yeah, very good Very good That was a sixth I think episode I've watched that And nothing of it really
Starting point is 00:50:15 What was that about Lynn then So, what, just on the flight? Her son got, she was an air hostess. Yeah. Her son got accused of murder. Right, okay. And basically she got blackmailed that she had to take drugs over to various countries. And just the whole story involved around that.
Starting point is 00:50:36 It was very good. She's very good actress. Very good. Yeah, I watched that. But not Catherine Tilsley. Yes, I think that is her name. She's a cracking actress. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Yes. But there isn't really much on at the moment. well summer you see everything dies down a bit have you seen me cooking at all oh my god of course yes I saw last night's one oh did you what about my burnt
Starting point is 00:50:57 your pudding but that was good that you that you decided to put your own take on it by using less flour but it worked only in the air friar but isn't it amazing what you could do
Starting point is 00:51:13 in an air friar but I can now knock up a miniature roast dinner in an air friar 20 minutes. You could put a bit of broccoli on and have a Yorkshire pudding in your beef. That's mad isn't it? Yeah. If there was you and Dave, especially for two people, you could have a little roast dinner that would take you half an hour. Yeah, isn't that incredible? It's good, isn't it? How are you doing that show? Or how did you do that? It feels, I feel so nervous.
Starting point is 00:51:37 It is so panicking. Yeah, I feel it for you and I'm watching it and I, but oh God. But you seem very calm. You don't see, you don't come across. I think out of any show I've ever done, I feel the most at home. Well, you see, you come across, like, and Ozzy Osbourne, like Ozzy Osbourne son. Jack, he's great. He comes across. He's good, isn't he?
Starting point is 00:52:07 Very good, knows what he's doing. Even the way he handles the meat, the steak. You can see he's used to, he's got culinary skills. Yeah, yeah. And that comes across. Oh, I'm pleased you're enjoying it, though. Oh, no, so good. I'm telling everyone, no, well, no, I tried to and then sort of lost interest.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Right, okay. So, no, I haven't. And I like Emma Willis, so that's what sort of attracting me to it. Yes. But no, I'm watching this. Oh, good. Yeah, it's very good. And I think you're doing so well.
Starting point is 00:52:35 But you do come across, like, you belong there. Really? Some twisted turns along the way. Is there? Oh, yeah, I'm excited. I wish I could binge watch it, but sadly we can't. It's quite nice, though, not having it all straight away. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:52:53 But again, see, we won everything now. I know, I know. But it is quite weird that you can't just put it on and watch it all. Well, again, with so many things we're, yeah, we're used to doing that, aren't we? No, they're doing that. I know, it's amazing. The hobel. What about the, um, because though I was speaking to my neighbour's son,
Starting point is 00:53:12 and he was saying, did that, because of cutting down, did they have a major, cut then a week ago and it's major all the windows i said to mark thank goodness but is that what's come to reach us as well then it can't be that must be something else no i don't think it would have reached you we our cars just cover i'd wash my i mean to clean in my car well listen i have to tell you i really don't know who knows if everybody cuts their fields on a certain day or two yeah could it travel to you well we had some kind of sand explosion. Everyone's car's covered. Anyway, I'd only wash my car the weekend before. I was so annoyed because it is a bit of an effort. You know when you start something you think, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:53:56 taken on more than I could you, but I really enjoy doing it. So you're washing the car now as well. Especially if the weather's nice. I love it. Anyway, yesterday, I went out, I said date today, but I can't stand my car looking like that anymore. I'm going to go and do it. Before I had moan and say, do you really need to do this? Can't you just, I'll do it in the week, which is not going to. Yeah. Or we'll just take it to the car. Anyway, no, I want to. do it. So Sunday I did it. It's not the first time I've done it, but what I didn't appreciate is how hot it was. Yes. So as fast as I'm washing it, it's drying, but the sand, because it was so thick, Natalie. Anyway, it was really hard work, but I did it. Not great, I must admit, but it looked
Starting point is 00:54:36 better than it did. Yeah. So that I said today, well, while I've got the hose out and all the stuff out, I might as well do yours. Right. Well, oh my God, the state of his car, it looks worse than it did when... Really? That's it. But interestingly, Mark at Work said, I tried to, my windows, because he's been away,
Starting point is 00:54:52 said I tried to capture my windows. Yeah. The same problem. He said that they look worse. Oh, well, there you go. We've just had an exploit, just everyone's cars. If you just look at everybody's cars,
Starting point is 00:55:03 they are just caked in sand. Maybe that's, well, it's how dry it's been as well, isn't it? Yeah, of course. Yeah. But I did wonder because, yeah, our neighbour's son said, I said, how's the countryside?
Starting point is 00:55:12 He said, yeah, he goes, fine. He goes, but I'm just covered in, everything is just covered inside but yeah they've had a major cut haven't they but look at this no I know we're already getting crispy leaves on the floor
Starting point is 00:55:25 I know I know a little bit of orange well yeah there you go there's your Halloween sign of you I know you mentioned it on the pod the other day nah but it's too early surely not it's too much we haven't even we're still in summer
Starting point is 00:55:39 kids are not even back to school yet kids are back at school and you're going into I think it was Matalant I went into there is Halloween stuff everywhere. No, I'm... I think it just makes you heart race a little bit too fast when you see it. Because time's just flying by as it is.
Starting point is 00:55:55 You don't need to think about November yet. You know I'm a fan of... Of course, I'm a fan of Christmas and all of that. But even I think, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I just think it's a lot for people's brains. I totally agree. I totally agree. And I'm very much...
Starting point is 00:56:08 I'm fortunately, I'm one of these people that I just feel like I've got to get through one hurdle and then we move... I can't be thinking about Halloween or Christmas until we've got our birthdays that are imminent, big birthdays out the way, and then we focus on the next thing. But it's at the forefront. It's August.
Starting point is 00:56:25 And when's that ever happened as well? I don't feel like that's a new thing. No, I've never seen it out this early. Not this early. But again, are they just desperate to, are they not sell it in summer stuff, not sell it? Oh, I don't know, Natalie. There's got to be a reason behind it coming out so early. No, it's just marketing.
Starting point is 00:56:44 well it's ridiculous and people are suckers well it shouldn't be allowed your daughter got sucked in was she bought i don't know she just said she got sucked in i don't know if she bought anything now but she enjoyed you know she got sucked into the feel of it and getting excited about it but i saw it in tesco so there was some spooky candles and even i thought no no it's mental this is ridiculous yeah silly do you remember when we walked last along here and it was absolutely so and I've said I had trench foot and I can't think of the
Starting point is 00:57:17 word there you go it's so peaceful it's lovely isn't it yeah what are you doing when you get home not a lot I don't think I'm going to go home have a shower
Starting point is 00:57:31 have a bite to eat something light I think your brother's made some concoction I have done chicken thighs and drumsticks oh lovely With salad. Oven tray.
Starting point is 00:57:43 No, we're going to put it in an oven tray. And because of the weekend, I've got peppers. I've got onions. I've got carrots. I've got, and I've just chopped it all up, chucked it in. And I'm just going to do that garlic, olive oil. Pop it in 45 minutes and just have a nibble on that. And that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:57:58 It is, again, going back to the weight thing. Yeah. It is about, what's the saying? I've said it before. Failed to prepare, prepared to fail. It is about being organized and having something prepped. I know. stops you from going to that easy breach of the tree cupboards yeah yeah which you know again
Starting point is 00:58:19 I appreciate it's not so easy to do it's not easy at all it's like even parents with their pat lunches for their children um because again I don't know who mentioned this to me I didn't appreciate that when the kids get to a certain age school meals even at infant school yeah you have to pay for them yeah whereas in our day it was free Yeah, no. And it's a lot of money. Yeah. So then you're...
Starting point is 00:58:44 But then there's no difference for pat lunch. Not if you're... What, do you think it's equally as expensive than paying for... So how much is school dinner now then, would you say? I can't tell you. Does Joanie have school dinner? Yeah. Oh, so she has school.
Starting point is 00:59:01 But I do mine in a sort of big lump, so I can't really divide it at the moment. I can't think. Oh, right. Okay. But, you know, the thing is, Joni said to me today, how weird that you've brought up school dinners, she said, I'd like a pat lunch. Yeah, because it's a bit of a normal.
Starting point is 00:59:17 When you get home and it's 8 o'clock, and it's pissing my rain, and you've forgotten to get the bits, that is aggravation. Or you're going out at 6 o'clock in the morning, someone else has got to do it. For me, it's quite convenient the school dinner. Oh, no. And in the winter, it's nice to have a hot meal.
Starting point is 00:59:35 I was just about to say. So I used to love school dinners, and mine all had school dinners. Yeah. Yeah, it is a difficult one, isn't it? They do a really good thing, though. You can have school dinners on a Monday and a Wednesday and pat lunch for the other days. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:59:51 So they do so kind of a mid. Right. But then you've got to remember what days we are, and you're rushing around. I don't know. But in your opinion, pat lunch can be equally as expensive. I would say so by the time. Bearing in mind, they have quite strict guidelines. They don't want junk food.
Starting point is 01:00:10 they don't want chocolate so you can put it in don't get me when you can but there's a letter that comes out so you know they want you to be as healthy as you can for your children
Starting point is 01:00:21 so if you adhere to that you're looking at some fruit possibly some berries a nice yoghut a whole meal nice sandwich nice things in it and then you're going to mix it up every day don't you otherwise it comes boring
Starting point is 01:00:37 yes again it's a lot it's a bowl like And you've got to get it, and you've got to make it, prepare it, haven't you? Whether you're making a sandwich or whatever it is. It's just another job, isn't it? Can I just say to you? Oh, hang on, before our famous last words.
Starting point is 01:00:53 No, we have been out of the house for nearly an hour. Right. And I've not had one phone call from Eliza. Oh, that's either a good thing or a bad thing. Not one. She has either locked at Choney in a cupboard. I thought we'd come out and it would be an absolute disaster
Starting point is 01:01:13 and we'll be able to record the pod. See, they bonded on holiday they really have and they've been doing their dancing together and Joanie said I'll be all right tonight because we haven't argued much since I've turned nine
Starting point is 01:01:25 oh bless everyone it was on Saturday but they are going to listen they are going to bick her it's fine but at this age Lynne to go out for an hour with you on a walk No Eliza is now old enough to be a babysitter
Starting point is 01:01:41 She could get a job Babysitting earning a bit of money So why can't she sit with a nine-year-old It's ridiculous This is exactly what If they do it a little bit more I'm hoping, you know
Starting point is 01:01:53 If it's just an hour After school for instance If I'm busy and it's just an hour Then Eliza could pick Joanie up And have an hour Do you find what They bicker over
Starting point is 01:02:05 So your concern is leaving them they would just start arguing and screaming at each other then they fight punching the living daylights out of each other it's funny oh dear
Starting point is 01:02:21 and yet if it was if it was someone else's nine year old that wouldn't be happening with it no that's it and that's what I said it's because they're sisters you've just got to help mummy a little bit now help me out a bit she said she's really looking forward to going back to school
Starting point is 01:02:34 Eliza yeah they both are not Oh what? She's not Did she say she's kind of like Oh she said the opposite to me But I don't think it's regarding the workload I think it's seeing her friends So listen
Starting point is 01:02:48 It's all very well But it's a long It's a long time I still remember the anxiety Of going back to school After the six weeks holiday Really? Oh I used to dread it
Starting point is 01:02:59 I think I did dread it Oh I really used to dread it I just loved the summer I never remember it raining I always remember it being summer when I was little and I just remember tents and Play-Doh and Maria being over and just a lovely time Yeah
Starting point is 01:03:17 So then why would you want to go back to school? But there you go Yeah That's what happens but I love September I talk about it in my book I always feel like September is It's a lovely month It's almost like new year
Starting point is 01:03:32 Because it's the new school year Fresh beginnings certain smell in the air I like it's like a nice time I like September it's a good month yeah a big anniversary
Starting point is 01:03:43 first in September can't believe it I'm racking my brain I can't afford a ruby I've got a ruby you have got a ruby just wrap her up oh bless that
Starting point is 01:03:56 amazing 40 years live that's mad yeah isn't it in this day and age 40 years married yeah it's a long time isn't it? Long old time.
Starting point is 01:04:08 But we've got a nice restaurant booked so that'd be nice. Yeah, lovely. So it's like to look forward to. You're going to where we went for the pod, aren't you? Yeah. Is that the Arlington? Yeah, we've got that as a gift
Starting point is 01:04:19 from a couple of my friends. Yeah, nice. And we're going to go there. And then we're going to France for a few days with friends. Lovely. Yeah. So nice little things to look forward to still. That's nice.
Starting point is 01:04:32 It's been a real sort of year of celebration really in your house. And not over yet. We've still got few to come, haven't we? Baby's first birthday, Mark's birthday. Yeah. No, it'll be... Milestones and... It's nice.
Starting point is 01:04:44 But what's been lovely this year is it just feels like we've had a real summer, doesn't it? Yes. How lovely. I've even enjoyed it. As much as I talk about it and moaned. Yeah, but it has been lovely. I've really enjoyed using the garden, having a few barbecue, sitting out there till late. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:02 It has been lovely to be able to use a garden. No, we've been really lucky this year, haven't we? You'll have to get a pool soon, the weather continues. I'll tell you, if the weather carries on like this, it kind of makes it justifiable, doesn't it? But I mean, for us, the hot tub in Devon saved us alone. Yeah. The kids loved it.
Starting point is 01:05:22 And where it was not, you know, you'd come out and you did kind of need a towel to wrap round. Being in the hot tub, it's warm. I mean, yeah, adults and kids loved it. Well, the kids just love a bit of water. They're not bothered about an Olympic-sized pole. It's funny, isn't it? A little bit of water so they can splash about and they're happy.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Entertains them no end, doesn't it? Absolutely. Yep. Well, it's been a lovely walk. It really has. Nice to do the pod on the walk. It really is. And I hope that everybody's enjoyed our little catch-up.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Yeah. Do let us have some feedback on the topic we've discussed. It's just be nice to hear other people's opinion. And again, this can help others, can't it? Yeah, because there can be people that have got reservations about whether they should do. it and this might encourage them to do it and equally people that think oh do you know what I don't need to I'm going to do
Starting point is 01:06:11 it on my own yeah absolutely without spending loads of money and injecting myself with who knows what on the other hand it can be very very good so we shall see yeah you got to do what's right for you thank you for listening everybody
Starting point is 01:06:29 I hope you have a really lovely weekend and I'll be back on Monday yeah have a really good one. I'm sure it'll be nice and dry again so enjoy yourselves and we'll spill soon. Oh and Samantha you know who I'm talking about my pal. The amount
Starting point is 01:06:45 of bottles of rosé that you took a photo of don't do the same this weekend because your head's probably terrible today. See you soon. Bye. Thanks Lynne. Bye everyone. See you now. Bye darling.

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