Life with Nat - EP152: Nat & Em have an announcement

Episode Date: September 14, 2025

Nat has gotten Producer Emma back on the microphone for a very special announcement, and obviously... just a lovely catch up chat too! Enjoy! xx SPOILER ALERT (come back for this once you've listened!) - claphamgrand.com/event/live-with-nat-at-christmas/ Please subscribe, follow, and leave a review. xxx You can find us in all places here; ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podfollow.com/lifewithnat/view⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ INSTA: @natcass1 We're also on Facebook too: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/lifewithnatpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ A 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SHOW INFO: Life with Nat - it’s me! Natalie Cassidy and I’ll be chatting away to family, friends and most importantly YOU. I want to pick people's brains on the subjects that I care about- whether that’s where all the odd socks go, weight and food or kids on phones. Each week I will be letting you into my life as i chat about my week, share my thoughts on the mundane happenings as well as the serious. I have grown up in the public eye and have never changed because of it. Life with Nat is the podcast for proper people. Come join the community. ♥️ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode is brought to you by Defender. With a towing capacity of 3,500 kilograms and a waiting depth of 900 millimeters, the Defender 110 pushes what's possible. Learn more at landrover.ca. Well, well, well, I hope everybody's had a fantastic weekend. I've got a little surprise for you all this morning. Lovely Emma's here. Woo!

Hey! I'm surprised. I don't know if anyone else is. I am. Hello. You're right? It's been a while, isn't it? I mean, we're in contact all the time.

Yeah, but doing this. But like in a weird way where... Not seeing each other, not really, like, actually chatting properly. I have missed your face. Oh, I've missed your face. Even though. Although I see it everywhere. But I don't see yours.

No. I have to tell you, Em, you must know you're so loved. I've had so many messages. Honestly, throughout the months. I don't just mean that one or two. Where's Emma? Miss Emma. Hope she's good.

So this is a treat for everybody. And a very exciting episode, actually, because we've got some big news. But I'm going to save the big news for a minute. You'll have to keep listening. So what have you been up to? What you've been doing? Just sitting at home editing away. I don't really do much else.

Beavering away. Yeah. I mean, last time I was on, I've moved house. Yeah, I think you just moved. But that's nearly a year ago now. No, it isn't. Yeah, yeah. He moved at the end of September last year.

Where does the time go? I know. But yeah, and then boyfriend moved in. Yeah. So he moved in. Is he all good? Yeah. He's doing all right.

He's been away this week. He occasionally cats it, but he's popping over today to grab some tech and stuff. So that would be nice. But yeah, it's all good. Now are the boxes? Because, you know, it's like nearly a year, as you said. So I'm guessing all boxes are done. Everything is unpacked.

We're all organised, are we? Yeah, but then Ed bought, then all his boxes in May. Yeah. So then we've got, then sort of, I was probably maybe 80% of my boxes sorted. Okay.

You know, just the sort of the random ones that are never really ever sorted, but I was trying to work through those. But then you bring in another flats worth of boxes. Yes. And into a flat that was already quite, full it's a lot

it's a process it's a process it's a process it's a process yeah we're getting there we're getting there every box

of his his cameras yeah a lot of mine is just nonsense I've kept as craft stuff like it's all

pretty cardboard you know don't touch oh yeah no no because I haven't enough time to do any craft

no that's right that's right boxes I've got so well I've got a beautiful I must show you actually i'll send it to you later i bought something from a garden center about 18 months ago i don't know if you've seen them they're like miniature worlds that you build

oh terrarium oh no like a little tiny little you can get little libraries you can get greenhouses you can get little book nook type ones that fit in the library but yes yeah really cute little tiny tiny tiny diorama type thing absolutely i've got two of those in the cupboard not touched. Yeah, it's the potential. We'll get there eventually. I don't know. You're too busy.

What are you thinking? But you say that we're all busy, aren't we, all the time? Yeah. Life's just extremely busy. But I would love to sit on a rainy afternoon and just beaver away. On your tiny, tiny little greenhouse? Yeah, I'd really like to do that. I'd like a really, really big, big greenhouse, actually.

Yeah. That's what I'd like. After the summer. I love doing my corgettes and tomatoes and everything. I would absolutely love a greenhouse. I've got no corgettes out of my corsette plant so far. Oh, really? It keeps doing flowers every now and then, and then it's struggling to actually turn anything out.

I've got three tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny green tomatoes on my little tomato plants. Okay, do-dokey. So that'll have to do. The zineas did quite well. I am going to give you some of our tomato plants next year. I'm going to get Mark to do a few extra because they're fifth generation, you see, because he drives out of seeds.

They were unbelievable. I reckon we've had about seven kilograms, seven kilos? Yeah. Been brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. But yeah, coming towards the end of those as well,

it's sad. Sad times. But lovely. Yeah, can you? Do they not carry on through the year? They're just annual. Well, they would if they were in a greenhouse, wouldn't they?

Yeah. I think, you know, they would definitely. start a bit earlier perhaps and finish a little bit later you know you can have them and the cucumbers there's all the cold frames and all these sort of things yeah they don't they's I've got a cold frame but they don't touch it you need a proper solid glass greenhouse you know to keep the warmth in but one day I will get one might ask for one for my birthday or something everyone can club together yeah also your mini your little diorama greenhouse

I feel like if you pod it, if you do a podcast about it, record, record yourself doing it, then you'll get your stuff done. That's all you get anything done is like, just turn it into a pod. That is true, you know. I could just pop it like a little solo crafty episode for a Sunday morning. That's a great idea. And you're right, I'd probably do it then if it was work. You can film a bit as well if you wanted to, but also just, yeah, just natter and record and go.

I said to Tony, because I'm really wanting to start my bathroom, my onsuit and bedroom need doing and I said well now he's on the old Instagram and he's showing his kitchen and what he's up to which is brilliant I said we'll actually get the bar from Dunn

yeah it's Tony hang on a minute was it Tony Cass 68 he underscore 68 I believe Tony Cass oh yeah no no underscore it's popped up there you go Tony Cass And you do know now that old Linney's got one as well.

Yes, that's why I was going to jump on and do them both. Fantastic. Auntie Linney dot LwN. I love the fact that they've both put their asses into gear and they can do a few bits. Pod related. Very, very good. Yeah, all right, following them both now. Fantastic.

Lovely. And make sure everybody out there, you follow them as well. Obviously, I've got mine. A lot of people are asking also about, oh, is there a life? with Nat Pod Insta and the reason I didn't do one is because I've got lots of followers myself over half a million and it just seems so silly to just start again when I've got such an audience. So I put all my stuff on my own one and then we've got these little shoots and branches going out with Nat's nieces and Tony and Linney and lovely Naomi who started up a great fan page

and she does loads on there and all the community get on there and talk about. about the pod so brilliant just just really lovely how it's all forming up i love the community we're making you know him yeah it's so nice you've got a little uh life with nat whatever it is on instagram the collection type thing i've got a highlight yeah highlights just clicked on it and it's and it goes back to the very beginning which um i think this might be the last episode we did together is the cheese and chocolate yes uh and that says 42 weeks ago Wow And so that's the first thing

You have to click through annoyingly It's sort of in chronological order Yeah So you'd have to go back to the very All the first 42 weeks ago Yeah

I feel like that might be We might Oh surely I don't know I don't know if we have Because again you're editing You're beavering away Behind the scenes all the time

So I never know Whereabouts we are But I do Do want to thank you because all the pods sound brilliant and you really just get it and I don't even talk to you sometimes and they just sort of appear and you've just done them so thank you for all the hard work

I really mean that thank you you make it a lot of fun you make it easy peasy some of it you know we get a few interruptions by crickets grasshoppers cicadas whatever they are but you know that's part of the joy isn't it it's all fun

it is all fun quite a lot of um odd mispronel I'm sort of just not saying the right words. I've had many a message after Auntie Linney's pod last Monday where I said that you can clean the fridge with WKD. Can I just apologise for that? And I hope everyone hasn't been swooshing blue alcohol over their fridges in a sticky, grimy mess.

I meant WK, hang on, WD. WD 40? WD 40. Oh my God. that WKD is very I was thinking wow that really is that really is an innovation I can see it a bit of alcohol

a bit of whatever is in their sugar I need what we go in lemon blue I'm really sorry to anybody who has got a J-Kloff and popped on some WKD really I'm really sorry about it really sorry

WD 40 WD 40 comes up Absolutely beautiful. Astonishing work. That's from Mark, actually. That was Mark's little tip for me. And the WKD wasn't his tip. No, it wasn't.

He just drank that? You just don't drinking it? I've never been a fan of those. When I was younger, the go-to was 2020. Do you remember that one? I know of it. It's a bit younger than me, aren't you? Is that a thing?

2020, it was called. And we also had white lightning. White lightning I know Yes I knew of that That's still a Oh yeah It's just called MD 2020

I've heard of it called Mad Dog 2020 But apparently that's just a nickname Oh okay Well we just used to say 2020 Fortified wine Geez

But yeah So none of those things You can put on stoner steel And clean with So I just wanted to clear that up It's not great is it That's yeah Quite the different product

Yeah Really different Really different but I can I sort of didn't think twice about it because I've heard the Coca-Cola is quite good at getting off like lime scale and stuff

I was like oh right put a two pence piece in a jug of coke and it looks brand new and all of that sort of thing it sort of yeah dissolves all of the dirt off or something which is always a little concerning

for insides but yeah no but so I went oh yeah fair enough I'm if I ever end up with spare WKD I might I might have to give that a go, but no, WD40, which I've got plenty of... Perfect. There you go.

There you go. Jesus. Oh, me. Don't. And chicadas? Did you have many off the... I had a couple. Yeah, I did have two or three.

I love it when Emma has edited an episode and she'll just send me random messages. I like this one. RIP your inbox when everyone gets in touch saying it's pronounced cicadas. not shikarders. Very good. The other thing is you keep going saying, oh, we'll just chat PGT it. You can't rely on chat GPT for anything that's actual like facts.

It's trained to give you an answer that sounds right. Yes, yes. So my friend used it for sorting out some data yesterday. Yeah. And it made up, it made up like what everyone had said. It made up new names. It had categorised a date in two different categories. Yeah.

Yeah. It's very clever for certain things, but... Not for factual information. It'll do a good job at reassuring you that it's right. It's sort of trained to gaslight, basically. Yeah, perfect. So good to do proper research. Get yourself down the library.

Yeah, always check what it's actually said. Yeah. It's not going to automatically give you the right answer on anything. No, fair enough. Fair enough. I mean, we're lucky. I say chat GPT because that's, you know, I get that wrong all the time. So at least I've got that right, the name of that.

Yeah. Chat WKD. Chat WKD. Chat WD.40. Ooh. So I can't hold it in anymore. There is a reason why Emma's here today because it's finally coming true.

It's the moment everybody has been waiting for. The air conditioning unit's getting installed. No. Maria's got a shoe cabinet. No. No. Oh, what else could it be? Sunday the 7th of December.

Yeah. We're doing a live show at the Clapham Ground. times 700 people. 700 people live with Nat. Nice. Nice. Live with Nat at Christmas. A lovely afternoon show.

I'm shitting it. I'm shitting it now I've said it out loud. Can't believe it. That's just going to be so exciting. It will be exciting. So here we go. These are the details for everybody. Let me read it.

out properly and slowly so everybody knows what they're doing. There is a presale this Thursday, Thursday the 18th of September from 11am in the morning. Now for all of my avid, brilliant listeners, the pre-sale code is LWN 25 Capitals. Life with Nat, LWN 25. And that is from at 11 a.m. on Thursday morning, the 18th. So get yourself on there. My, the link will be, um, I will pop a link in here, shall we? Yeah. So there'll be a link here. There will also be a link on Thursday and I will remind you on Thursday's app and I will pop it on my stories, obviously, and I do a post about it on Instagram and Facebook. It's going to be 2pm. Now, I don't know about you, Em, but I do love an afternoon out. It'll be a good one, sort of a pre-Christmas, cozy

afternoon, fun, just silly. It's just going to have fun, games, lots of special guests hopefully, well, the family if I can get them there. But M will be there, you know, and we're going to, I'm crafting it and I'm thinking about it as we speak. Thank you for everybody's help. I've got loads of listeners sending me bits and pieces, advice, what they've seen, what they haven't.

But really, Em, I just wanted to talk to you about it because obviously I have never done one of these before. Yeah. And how many live podcast shows do you think you've done? Oh, I don't know. Just over it. Double digits. Yeah.

But early double digits. I'd say maybe 15, 20, maybe more. Yeah. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, a bunch of. So I've got a couple of questions for you. Mm-hmm. Because I'll be on the toilet for most of the morning on Sunday the 7th December.

You can't podcast that. No, I won't do that. I won't do that. What sort of time do we get into a theatre before a show? Think of it like airport timing is a couple of hours before, I'd say. A couple of hours? Yeah. Okay.

Because you can go through the tech, you can sort of just walk about. Because they tend to open the doors, maybe half an hour, an hour before the show starts. So you want a chunk of time before that. Yes. It's sort of swan about, you know, test out the same. stage test out the mic work out where you're going to put your wd 40 i mean wkd i mean it's quite big it's big in it clepham grand it's grand it's got it in the name i need to go there i think him i don't remember going there before so i feel like i want to go and stand in it

i can't just go on the day of can you remember what it's like is it's nice it's a lovely old building is it teared yes yeah it's it's it's really pretty i can i can find you we'll have a little Have a little look. I mean, me too. I can do that. I'm being lazy. It's lovely. It'll be really nice.

And it'll be your perfect sort of Victorian Christmas kind of feeling as well. Yeah. But I just cannot wait for everyone to book and come. Please come. I really don't want to be in an empty theatre on the seventh. You won't be. Come on, 700 people. Easy.

Do you think so? I mean, just your family. cover that, I don't they? If they bring a couple of people each. It's just right. It's just right. That's it.

Oh, it's so true. There's something else I want to say about the show. Oh, yeah. We're going to do a little meet and greet post show. So the little meet and greet will be an additional cost, but it'll be 30 additional tickets for people who would love to just come and have a chat after

the show. little meat and grate. I might get involved in that. We haven't, we haven't hung out in a long time so it'd be nice to catch up with you. I'll be down for one of them. Brilliant. No, it's...

Oh, that'll be lovely. It will be lovely. I feel very nervous about it, but also extremely excited to do it. I think it'll be great. Yeah. I'd like to bring Ro Ro Ro out in a unicorn rubber ring.

Yes. But she likes to look good. So I'm not sure if she's going to do it for me. If she's, you know, fully nice, whatever she wants to wear and then just sort of walks, yeah, walks in with it and then it or have some glamorous assistance walking her in with it, you know, just holding it up for her overside and like in a ball gown type and then the train gets dropped sort of thing, maybe. Come on. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. Bit of, um, it's all fun, isn't it? It's all a bit of fun. But yeah, but yeah, I'm just so.

excited. I'm so excited that we've got a date in for a live show, not only a live show, but I take Christmas show, which is really what I wanted to do. Make sure I got one in for Christmas because, you know, it's my favourite time. Have you been to any podcast shows of that size? Like, have you done stuff of that sort of size? Yeah, you? Yes. Yeah, I've done one at the Club and Grand. Oh, you have? Oh, amazing. That's handy. And just how does it work, him well can we get a projector up yeah yeah

so we can have pickies up yeah I'm pretty sure we had a projector I think if not as easily easily I've seen shows there that have had projectors yeah that's good that's good yeah and then people turn up

you talk into a microphone you can even have one of those little ones that sort of connects to your face so you don't have to hold it if you want oh like Britney Spears did in the back and day do you think that's a good idea rather than a microphone it means that you can run about and then not have to worry about it yeah it might be good for me

actually you're not then facing away from it or worrying about it yeah or trying to do things you know active hands hands all over the place yeah you can do all you're dancing not be off mic okay super i might go for that it's brittney beach it's natalie honey It's Natalie, honey What could it be? Brittany bitch She's got a ring to it It's

Nat you nutcrackers Yeah This is the time for the knackackers This is the time for the knackackers It's all coming together nicely Yeah Very very excited Then may we just add

That is the pre-sale right So the pre-sale Is Thursday The 18th of September From 11 a.m. 11 a.m. Pre-sale code LWN-25 capitals. But the general sale is Friday the 19th of September at 11 a.m. also.

Yeah. So don't worry. You've got a day of pre-sales and then, you know, then it's everyone, everyone gets involved. So make the most of that pre-sale. Good grief. Sunday afternoon as well, that's great. I mean, Sundays, you don't want a late show on a Sunday night, really.

To be honest, I just love an early finish anywhere. And I think so many people are like that. And I just thought, if people want to travel to it, you know, people can travel. They can get home in the evening if they've got work on Monday. The kids can be babysat more easily sometimes if it isn't an evening, especially on a Sunday. But, you know, for me to be there and hopefully have. have family members because, you know, all the family members have proper jobs and are busy, you know, Sunday was the best day. So, yeah, like you say, people could go for brunch

beforehand. They can go out for a little bit of early dinner once it finishes. I mean, the show itself will probably be, I don't know, 45, 50 minutes each way, something like that with an interval. It's about right, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, that's about right. So, you know. You could book your dinner for five o'clock somewhere, have a nice hour in Pizza Express and head home or any other plate. I'm not advertising Pizza Express, but they're everywhere, aren't they? They'll be somewhere. Surely Clapham's got some food places or, yeah, anywhere on route home.

Have a lovely time. Yeah, that'd be really nice. What a lovely one. They'll be really, really good, really good. What do you want to do on stage? Have you had a thought, think about what you want to do? do? I mean, games. I think, yes, definitely some games. A quiz, maybe knocking around. I'm not going to give too much away, Emma, quite frankly, because I want everybody to experience a live show.

I'm not going to record my live shows. I've made a decision not to. I've really thought about that. And I want the live show to be magical and special and for people that have paid money to be there. And so not everybody can just hear it. So they will be private, special, one-off shows. So, yeah, I'm excited. Because a lot of people do put them out, don't they? There's Epps sometimes. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, because, you know, it's all good content and all good conversation and stuff. And why not? A lot of the time? Well, in my mind, what do you think of this? What I thought is I will not be putting it out this year, but you've got it in the bag for next Christmas. And then you could put it out and say,

flashback to last year in the live show. Do you know what I mean? I just think it's nice if people are, you know, going a long way, they're paying money to see you, that then it's just a bit special and a bit exclusive. So let me know what your thoughts on all of this as well, 07-8, 2019-19. Oh, it's really, you really calm me down. It is so nice to just sit and have a little chat with you. it just feels very chilled quite nice for a Monday morning I'm hoping for everybody yeah oh that's nice nice isn't it usually I'll wind people right up

have you wound up recently anyone not on purpose never but uh yeah no I don't think so no I think I think generally generally staying out the way I'm too busy too busy just sitting editing to wind people wind anyone up I wind Eliza up oh yeah by breathing. Yeah, yeah, that is quite rude of you, actually. The breathing, asking any type of question regarding school, homework. Yeah. Asking about organisational stuff, have you got your bag ready for tomorrow?

Yeah, that sort of thing. Yeah, that is, that's all so rude of you. That is quite, quite shocking, actually. I'm just a piss-taker. I'm just a wind-up merchant. I do remember that age, though, and my, my. mom has a habit of any question she asks, Phil's Passag. So it might well be that sort of thing where you go, I've done it. I've done the thing. Yeah. I've got my bag. I get it. Please. Please stop breathing at me. It's true. Yeah. It's only because we care. It's only because me and your mom

care, you know. No, it's true. It can be. No, Eliza's been very, very good. She's been very good of late. I'm only joking. That will wind her up. But, no, we've got a lovely relationship going on at the moment. It feels really, she's doing really well, back at school, getting into things. She's very organised. It's weird. It just feels that step up.

And do you know what? 24th of September, she's 15. So, you know, it's quite ridiculous. I'm going to have a 15-year-old, very, very so. Well, this is the conversation you've had a few times of like this bit will rocket through because, yeah, from 15 to 17, 18, lots of, lots of things change, lots of rights and sort of abilities and, yeah, you know, the pushing the boundaries and trying to find independence in every day, everything that kind of can feel quite jarring for you, I'm sure.

Yeah, you're right. There's a lot going on, but I feel really happy that she asked me to do things. I'm surprising myself, actually, at kind of giving her that little bit more freedom than I ever thought I would. I've shifted. I don't feel heartbroken that she's growing up anymore. I kind of go, no, let's embrace this stage now. And I'm kind of giving her that little bit more freedom or just chatting to her about

stuff. And yeah, it's really interesting. It's really good. I'm enjoying it. The challenge is that if you don't give her the permission sensibly, then And they... They'll do it anyway. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

My mum and dad, I loved my mum and dad's pieces, but they were so protective. Yeah. I just lied all the time. Yeah. Drinking in the... Just all the time. All this sort of, all this, yeah, all the whatever. It's really tricky, isn't it?

It's sort of always a balance. Also, kids, honestly, kids today. Kids today? Kids today. But the one... They're drinking WD-40, where they should be using it. They want to go to milkshake shops. Yeah.

They want to be in, like, flowery restaurants for Instagram. I really don't think they want to be set down the park with a bottle of 2020. It's not happening. No. Honestly, I mean, maybe it is happening somewhere, but the ones I know, they like their clothes, they like their stuff, they like their music, they concerts, you know. It just seems a bit more grown up. Yeah, there's lots of surveys that show that alcohol use has dropped off hugely with the younger generation. I think the only thing that's their tricky vice is the e-cigarettes.

Oh, the vaping, yeah. Vaping is a finding, because it's marketing so well to young kids and it's not, it's not being, yeah, it's bubblegum flavour. I mean, I can't stand it myself. No, like I would, I'm glad you'd never ever go near. Never. Never. Can I just say I'm not making fun of it

No No I haven't spoken about this Mark has given vaping up Well done And that is unbelievably good Yeah He has been brilliant As I've said before Mark

He's doing amazingly well And I would really Really like to give up his cigarettes And for me What I don't like seeing Is I smoke fags Yeah I smoke fags

From 1415 loved a cigarette and then I took to vaping to combat the smoking right? Yeah I don't know

whether it's well addictive stuff in Of course it is and I don't even know if it's better for you whatever Jordan North did a big doc

on vaping I've not watched it yet I'm going to sit down and watch it when I was doing Quicking and the Stars with him

he said because I've got a vape obviously he said have you watched my thing I said no he said watch it

he said you're better off having a fag so anyway listen who knows but my point was I just think it's such a shame when they're not addicted to anything that they're starting up with that when it is you're right it's a big thing it is big

at least with sort of cigarettes there was the because it's disgusting the flavour is disgusting it stinks it takes effort to get addicted to it a little bit a little bit of an effort there's a little bit of yeah there's still like while it's sort of counterculture

it's sort of still breaking the rules it's still going against something it's still feeling like it's a way of being an adult when you've not got control of so many other bits of your life or whatever you know that all sorts of massive massive complicated issues

that kind of get people started on that but it's a flavour that people have to work to kind of enjoy and then then you get past it and then you know you taste Did you have a smile? Did you have a smile? Anyway.

No, like socially, occasionally on nights out and stuff and you go, oh, I'll have a menthol. Yeah, much, much nice. And I, you know, I always thought of myself as being someone who's easily addicted to stuff. But actually, I think it turns out ADHD just means that I forget I've got a habit before I even start it. I'll go, oh, I'm going to do this every day for a week and then it's gone. Right. Okay. Fair enough.

Fair enough. So, luckily for me, that's kind of worked out that way. But yeah, I've seen my sister, yeah, gave up cigarettes and went into vaping and goes through sort of trying to lower the nicotine. But it's really hard. They like dummies. They like dummies. And also because, unfortunately, I know you shouldn't,

but you can get away with doing it wherever you are. Yeah. Not wherever, you know, but at home, for instance, it doesn't smell. It doesn't. So it's sort of permanently around. It doesn't force you outside into the cold again. No. Like cigarettes were sort of got to the point where, you know, because of the pub ban and all this sort of stuff. It was just sort of impossible.

It just wasn't worth doing anymore. Exactly. It was still making it. The taste was horrible. The effort was horrible. Everything was horrible. So it was like, it was sort of forcing people to give up or, you know, to reevaluate wherever it was worth it. Yeah.

And then vaping just comes in as like, oh, here you go for fun. Do this. be good. Taste-do version. Have a fruit, pastel vape or whatever they are. Yeah. And I think fags are like, it's ridiculous.

Are they not? I mean, it's ridiculous. Oh, the prices, I think, yeah. And in the fact they've had to, you know, they're hide them away now and where it's like, yeah, the vapes are just in these corner shops, like, yeah, shelves and shelves of it. There was a little hardware, like a little hardware household shop.

Yes, I've got one of those down the road in where. And it was, and then, yeah, it all just turns into, like, 90% of the shelves, all these light blue, green, zappy colour. I know, it looks like an amazing pride party. Like what's going on here, it's just a load of age, you know. It looks like you're falling into an arcade game. Yes. And go on, these are all the prizes you want.

And you go, tickets, tickets. I'll put the pennies in. You know, it's, it's marketing for a reason. But like you say, fags are over 20 quid. I'm sure, though, like 22 quid or something, a packet. I remember a packet of Moulbrily. being about £2.80 or £2.25.

Yeah. It's nuts. Yeah, a pack of 20 online right now, 14 pounds. Oh, okay. Richmond. Anyway, no, it doesn't matter which. Whatever.

Goodness, me. Yeah, I mean, you get into double digits. Yeah, it's nuts. But yeah, most on the whole, on the whole, I have to say, Eliza, her friends, people I've been at college with, all the, you know, 16-year-old, 17-year-olds, they're all bloody brilliant,

they're off to the gym, they're meditating, they've got a large bottle for their water because they want to drink enough, like really, really, brilliant kids. Yeah, the influence and the effort has all come into that sort of aesthetic looking after yourself thing,

rather than... I mean, the only other thing with them, unfortunately, is heads in the phones, but that's not their fault. Yeah, again. That's all very addictive and stuff And what else You know

This has come up on the pod I've heard it What What else are they supposed to be doing Yeah Where else are they supposed to go Like you don't want them Wander in the streets

Really you don't want them You know Where are they What are they doing? What are you looking for them at the window Kids In the garden No there's sorry

There was, like, those are banging out. That was just perfect time. Because you were like, I mean, what are they supposed to be doing? You just went to the window and looked out. They're in my garden. All the children. They're off the phones, Nat. Good news.

They're off the phones. They're vaping in my garden again. They're all, all the kids are in the garden. They're doing my gardening. Every child in the UK's in Abercosham's garden. Oh, parents, can you do something? Can you put back on their phone? It's rainbows of vapes, like plumes of smoke.

Oh, it smells so lovely, but I don't worry. I don't worry about us all. Oh, yeah. Just live in the garden. Don't. Don't. But yeah, you know, all the sort of youth clubs are all falling apart. It's all gone.

It's all online. All these kind of communities. All their communities are online. All their mates and everything. We were talking the other day about dancing. We were talking about. Do you remember like going out and you're having a boogie and then you'd like have a chat with someone or whatever? Where's that gone?

Do they, I don't fit anyone, do they still go out? At 18 and stuff. There's like clubbing and that sort of thing. Yeah. A little bit. But yeah. And I remember when I went to university, I know you had a big chat with Tony about the university thing. And like, for me, that was the next step of kind of building up the independence and whatever.

And for a lot of kids, that is, if you're still not sure what you want to do with your life, that is like the next platform that's sort of comfortable and safe because it's within sort of purpose. You've still got like, you've still got tasks of like things to, you have to do your course and stuff. But you are sort of introduced to this world where you have like societies and nights out and like all this sort of a little bit more prescriptive and you're in like student halls or student accommodation and you're having to mix with other people your age that that that again that fully

is lacking in anything outside of a university situation and outside of that 18 year old yeah that's really interesting actually yeah very interesting about we had a bit of that with college but we had to you know everyone was still living at home you'd travel in and stuff and you wouldn't go out really but yeah there's there's sort of a lack of just that sort of face-to-face face-to-face community isn't it really

yeah and like with your dancing mention we did all the clubs as kids you know all the sort of dance club and like brownies and all this sort of stuff but that also drops off as teenagers

it does definitely drop off as teenagers but it's lovely to do for the kids when they were small really nice actually but then I'm terrible because I just want to be at home yeah so I'm like oh you've got two clubs

That's enough. No more. Yeah. That is enough, club, two clubs. Seven clubs a week, including Saturdays and Sundays.

No, thank you. You crack on with it. But even two, I feel like is a good, is a good way of like having face to face, like, you know,

structured time, structured sort of purpose, but with people at your own age, people, you know, you build up a community and build up a friendship group that's in person.

And yeah, they're probably supplementing with texting and stuff. But you're still having that face-to-face contact, aren't you? That social interaction. But I'm sure it happens, I'm sure. But again, please drop me your thoughts on all of that. 0-7-8-219-M.

I've got to go and pick Joni up from school talking to children. She's not in my garden. I've checked. I've got in the garden. She's not in the garden, is she? No. No. Joanie.

Joanie? No. You'll have to go and get her. You'll have to. She's not here. I'm going to go and get her. I'm going to repeat this again. Sunday the 7th of December, Clapham Grand.

2 p.m. Please get your tickets. Pre-sale Thursday the 18th of September at 11 a.m. This Thursday. Pre-sale code is LWN-25, all caps. And that's for the pod listeners, for you guys. So please get on at 11 o'clock on Thursday morning. General sales on Friday, but I'll remind you of that again. Thank you so, so much for listening. I'm so pleased. A. to catch up with you, M. Thank you so much. Oh, lovely to speak to you. I hope everybody's enjoyed listening to Emma because loads of you have asked for us so here she is.

I'm so pleased to announce that date to you. We're going to have such a good laugh on that Sunday afternoon. And, yeah, I really, really can't wait and I will speak to you on Thursday. Em, thanks so much. Have a great week. Oh, thank you.

All right, darling. Speak to you soon. See you next year. I'll see you before then. All right, go ahead. See you later. Bye. Bye. Thank you.