Life with Nat - EP157: Scraping the Barrel #29 - The Bean Patina

Episode Date: October 1, 2025

Nat and Marc are back, but Nat’s back?… well it’s not great. Marc has broken his scan and shop virginity and is still very keen to roll the dice on out of date produce. And the big debate of Bourbon vs Ginger Nut… They also go a bit baaaarmy! Enjoy! xx Also shoutout to https://www.instagram.com/samnixon18 Please subscribe, follow, and leave a review. xxx You can find us in all places here; ⁠⁠⁠https://podfollow.com/lifewithnat/view⁠⁠⁠ We're on Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/lifewithnatpod⁠⁠⁠ Nat's insta: ⁠⁠@natcass1⁠⁠ Neice's insta: ⁠@natsnieces⁠ Tony's insta: ⁠@tonycass68⁠ Linny's insta: ⁠@auntielinny.lwn⁠ THE BIG CHRISTMAS LIVE SHOW 7th December ⁠⁠⁠⁠- claphamgrand.com/event/live-with-nat-at-christmas/⁠⁠ The tiny warm-up shows 4th Nov - Dixon Studio, Palace Theatre, Southend - ⁠⁠www.trafalgartickets.com/palace-theatre-southend/en-GB/event/other/live-with-nat-work-in-progress-tickets⁠⁠ 6th Nov - Hat Factory, Luton - ⁠⁠http://www.culturetrust.com/whats-on/live-nat-work-progress⁠⁠ 16th Nov - Hawth Studio, The Hawth Theatre, Crawley - ⁠⁠https://www.parkwoodtheatres.co.uk/the-hawth/whats-on/live-with-nat-work-in-progress⁠⁠ Book Club: Bob Mortimer's Autobiography "And Away" ⁠https://amzn.eu/d/begUIQ3⁠ Nat’s solo chats - any rants always welcome!  Scraping the Barrel - SCAN AND SHOP VIRGIN NO LONGER! Marc’s still adamant that days old salad from a takeaway is an ideal packed lunch - what’s the maddest thing you’ve pack for lunch? Bonce vs list! - Are you a list maker? Always collecting for Nostalgia Fest! What’s brewing with the Nieces - are we all skipping the end of summer, all of autumn and going straight to Christmas? Group chat ettiquette - the “happy birthday” that makes everyone else’s look like they’re tagging on! Things we’re nagging with Linny about - Chilled walks gone wrong! Getting locked out when you’re in a hurry and everything becoming a right faff The Tony talks chatter - Keep your DIY questions coming, also open to some saucy two paragraph stories for Tony to read out at the Southend show - think cheeky postcards (both in tone and length)! Can we make Tony an influencer and get him any freebies?  AOB - Housecoats… lets bring them back?!  Georgina’s Fact - What cat have you let out of the bag? Have you been scammed? A 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: ⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠ SHOW INFO: Life with Nat - it’s me! Natalie Cassidy and I’ll be chatting away to family, friends and most importantly YOU. I want to pick people's brains on the subjects that I care about- whether that’s where all the odd socks go, weight and food or kids on phones. Each week I will be letting you into my life as i chat about my week, share my thoughts on the mundane happenings as well as the serious. I have grown up in the public eye and have never changed because of it. Life with Nat is the podcast for proper people. Come join the community. ♥️ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Happy, happy Thursday, everybody. Hope you're all good. I'm with Mark today. We are scraping the barrel once again. You're right, sweetheart? Yeah, thanks. Good. Yeah, I'm all right.

You've read some lovely messages. Have I? Yep. You had one here from KT that said, Paul's in the pod to say, see you in London for a mince pie. Don't be a spoils sport, Mark. Which I thought was quite cute.

Don't be a what? Spoil of sport. What was she talking about? It was last time when you said, oh, no one's really going to come to see me and I don't want to be there. So lots of people have said, Hang on a minute, that's completely different.

What is? No, I can say no one's coming. to see me, obviously. They're not coming to see me. Well, what's that got to do? Hang on. Don't backtrack. What's that got to do with anything? Well, she said, pausing the pod to say,

see you in London for a mince pie. Don't be a spoil sport. So she must have thought you sounded a bit down in the dumps like you didn't want to come. So Katie's looking forward to seeing you. Right. For a mince pie. Message for Mark. From Tracy.

Mark, everyone will want to see you. Capital letters and everything You were a family team And that, as amazing as she is Couldn't do this pod without all of you Take some credit That the pod wouldn't be the same without you How cute is it

That he thinks like that though He's a keeper Wish I was coming to the live show I'm so gutted We are going to Rochester Christmas Market That weekend from Tracy Sounds lovely Let me know what it's like

But it's going more than one live show Isn't there Yes that is true No excuse, Tracy. Karen said Mark knows, Iceland, £1.39 for a Vionetta at the moment. I think in the last pod you announced a roughly about $14,150, so she said Mark knows. That's what Karen thinks of you. Right.

Mark knows. Elaine from Kent sent us a picture as well. £1.75 offering Tesco at the moment, thought of us both. For a vionetta? Josh said Hi Nat currently on holiday with my husband

Andrew in New Yorker and came across this maxibon freezer after I thrashed him at minigolf we had to have

one to honour Mark's love for them loving the pod best wishes to you and the family lots of love from Josh very very

jealous of Josh and Andrew's day really because we love mini golf don't we and not only are they on holiday

they've played our favourite game and then I'd one of your favourite ice creams to boot I've overdone any ice cream tonight so I'm not that envious if I'm honest

have you darling how many ice creams have you had I had two did you really yeah I had a cornetto yeah type thing and one of a little Audi

maxi not a maxi chalk that's funny is it Chocobon Chocco Bond thank you all right yeah I feel a bit A bit queasy

Is that why you're quiet? Maybe I've got something I want to talk about Oh yeah Interesting this week I went shopping And I was in a Tesco Not a local one

Yeah And I'd run in And I had a shopping bag And I was sort of loading Something into the shopping bag I can't think what it was now Potatoes by the looks of it You sent me a picture of your bag

No, no, that's another day. Oh. So a security man came up to me and he said, if you're not scanning and shopping, you can't put stuff into your bag. Hang on a minute. Why have you not told me about this? I've forgotten.

It's quite large news. I think where I was when this happened. This is unbelievable. Anyway, it was in a slightly funny place, this Tesco. Right. And... What, like a clown? No, and I'm really annoyed that I can't think where...

Borenwood? It was... Maybe... What's saying it's funny there or anything? No, was it there? I can't remember, anyway. Or on the way to the racing somewhere, like in the country, or... Can't remember.

Right. Anyway, I thought that's strange, but I think it sort of stuck with me. So, if you have a day... Well, hang on, no, no, no, no. No, I want to hear more information regarding the event. Yes. When it came over, what did you do? Did you have stuff in the bag already?

I just gave him a very tired and weary look. And did you take the stuff out of the bag? No. I just looked at him and said, I'm almost done now, don't worry about it. And then walked to the till. Very self-assured. Yeah.

I mean, what do you think I was going to do? Go and empty the bag into a shopping basket. Yes. No. Anyway. No, what he thought is you were going to steal the stuff. That's what he thought. Okay.

No, he didn't. That was playing on your mind a little bit, that visit. I think so. Then yesterday I got off picture. Yeah, so yesterday morning, as you know, I had to go shopping. And I thought, do you know what? It's dead quiet in here today. Monday morning.

I'm going to try to scan and shop thing. Never done it before. So went in my bag, went up to the scanner. you have to scan your club card fair enough didn't know that and I sort of progressed to walk around

and did my shop very straightforward it's good I like it yeah I have to say there but a couple of times where I put stuff

in my bag and forgot to scan it whilst walking around if you're not used to it I think that's yeah I get that I'm used to walking around

just loading stuff into my shopping bag exactly doesn't help and then I got to the till did the you know

I guessed it would weigh it. I had to like, what did we have to do? Scan the thing, don't you, or something. I'll scan the barcode. Anyway, did all that. Paid for it. Yeah. Didn't know what to do with the thing.

It's for what I do this now. There's a little slot behind. I just turned around to the lady there and just said, I have no idea where to put this. And she just sort of looked at me and took it off for me. And I said, it's the first time I've done that. Right. She just carried on just, like, looking at me, like, you're a nutter.

And when I walked out. Overall experience, though, yeah, it works. Wow. Yeah. It's big news. Yeah, it's quite big. If you went back into a shop now, do you feel that if you were loading your bag up without the scanner,

you'd feel odd about it now? Absolutely not. Thank God for that, because we've got a lovely merch tote bag coming, and you would have ruined it. Not really, because you could use that bag and scan and shop. Mm. It says I'm not stealing on it, though. Which is the fun of it all.

Okay. So anyway. No, it's brilliant. I mean, it's a big story. Big story for scraping the barrel. And I think you've actually saved it for me. Right. You haven't forgotten about it.

You're excited to tell me about it. What do you mean? I don't think that's gone to the back of your mind. You thought, I'll keep that one up my sleeve. You've lost me. Anyway, well done for trying it. Stacey's messaged in. You're right, Stace.

I'm listening to the latest scraping the barrel and just had to stop the pod and message once I heard Mark say no one has ever sued a supermarket for out-of-date food. I have to correct him and let you know I worked in a solicitor's where someone successfully claimed against the supermarket for out-of-date chocolate after they claimed they had food poisoning. Bit stupid as I think it's on us as well to check dates

And as Mark said, we aren't stupid, we should know. Keep up the amazing work. You really make a difference. Thank you, Stacey. Can you believe that? Stacey, a man or a woman? Uh... Just asking.

It doesn't matter if you're not sure. No, not sure, but Stacey... It's building a picture up in my mind. Why are you putting a face at me? It's Stacey, isn't it? Yeah. I would imagine it's a woman. I work with a guy called Stacey

Oh do you Before you start absolutely annihilating that No fair do That's your reason I asked Okay In the message before She sent me a picture of adult jelly shoes in Primark I know I'm being stereotypical

But I reckon it's a girl Because she sent me at her shopping Which were women's shoes Jelly shoes Right okay Anyway, why are you building up the picture? I was just curious. Interesting that, though. Isn't it?

Yeah. I wonder what the case was. They were saying that they had assumed it was in date because it was being sold, presumably. I would imagine so, but chocolate, food poisoning. Yeah. Strange that. Can you get food poisoning from chocolate? Well, it depends how old it is. I suppose so.

The other night, Joni was watching the, I know it's very inappropriate, but I apologise. I was, Joan was watching the episode of Friday night dinner where Martin eats the tin of beef that's 40-year-old years old. Yes. It's good, very good, that. It's funny. Very funny. And I remember my dad telling me all about those, you know, tins of food

and saying about how they can, you know, stuff. I bet you had a couple in the garage. They could last forever and stuff. And there was definitely an article. I remember a few years. I was quite young. There was definitely something in the paper about somebody that found a load of tins

and they'd been from like the Second World War and all the food in them was fine. Absolutely. It's been on... Has that happened then? Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I'm sure I've read that or heard of that. It's like food when they used to store stuff

where they thought there was going to be a nuclear war and all of that. And what about there was another thing? If you're going to say what I was just about to say, that is weird. Okay, I was going to say about the shops used to sell off the tins without the labels on. Oh no

And there was something There was a program on television Now this If someone gets this I'm impressed I'm gonna have to move There was a sec Sorry

Just keep that thought in your head My back I can still speak while you're standing up I can't explain to you Now what I'm going to do Is I'm going to kneel down Pardon I'm going to

So my back straight Okay Oh God I've got I've done my backing everybody, sorry How have you done that? By moving the puff downstairs A pooh.

I mean, come on. That was literally That was like the biggest Carry on It's not, I genuinely mean it You know what I mean The big puff in the middle of the lounge I just moved it back into its place

Because I was doing my studying on it yesterday Is it not a poof? A puff, eh? It's not really any of those things. It's a very large footstool. It's a very large footstall type thing. Anyway. It's a very strange bit of furniture, actually,

if you want to start going into detail. It is. I agree with you, yeah. It's not even an Ottoman. Can't even open it and put stuff in it. So there was a program, and I can't for the life when you remember what it was, and it was definitely a thing in the program,

it was like a scene or it was a story within it, where someone was flogging unlabel tins, or it could be a film where that's in, It's something like that. I'm sure it's a very American. I can see it now. The silver little tins with the lines around it. It is something like that.

Yeah. What was that in? Someone will tell us. Someone will tell us. No, what I was going to mention was I saw on Instagram the other day. And again, is it true? Is it not? Something like in, again, I've not got the information.

In the Netherlands or somewhere where they banned McDonald's, they closed all the McDonald's. And then there was a burger and chips that they put in a glass box It's 30 years old And it's still preserved Yeah Do you see that That's that pops up

Quite a lot of times Actually is that true I don't know Well I found a MacDonald's chip In my car And it looked pretty much Like a chip Immaculate

Didn't have any kind of And I mean I don't I think that's probably been there for a couple of years Yeah If I'm being Maybe not

I mean obviously I wouldn't have eaten it Sorry I'm so sorry everyone. What are you doing? Just, it's a bit heavy to hold.

Yeah, I want to hold it. Why don't you point it down at yourself? Guys, I'm really sorry about this. What you could do is just undo that. That's it. That? Yeah. Tilt it down.

Both of them? No, you've got one hand needs to be on the microphone. Oh no, I can't do it. I'll do it with you. No, don't worry. Don't worry. I'm just going to sit down. I'm just going to sit down, honestly.

Sorry. It's okay. You just do that. Thank you. Is that all right? You might have to get a picky so everyone can see what I do for my art. Well, I've got to say. Yeah.

I don't think there's been a podcast recording that I've been a party off. Where you haven't taken a photo. But then those photos never get put on Instagram. I forget, but I promise you, I'm just. going to put them on ever no there are a few there's quite a few actually no well i've got highlights and all the pictures from the pod should go on highlights that's just a lot to remember that's all yeah that's fair enough we've had a really really funny message from joan mead and joan said. Being a lady of a certain age, I always make lists, otherwise I forget things. Damn you

menopause. Hope you're feeling better. We'll go into lists in a bit. But this is the question that I like from Joanne. Which one of you makes the best cup of tea and what are your go-to biscuits for dunking? Wonderful. question from Joanne and a very very very important one may I add you make a good cup of tea I couldn't tell you the last time I made a cup of tea no because you're a big coffee drinker these days aren't you yeah but so when I don't if I am you you know whenever you've brought up a tea which is rare I haven't done it for a long time of you but when you have brought up a cup of tea to me it's always the right colour not that

too milky, not too strong. Yep. Always a very nice cup of tea. Now, again, sorry to be boring, but Joanne, honestly, I love dunking biscuits in my tea, but I rarely buy biscuits because I am partial to a custard cream

or a vionetta sandwich from Marx's. What is your favourite dunkin biscuit, Mark, may I add? Um, a bourbon. Not the best, not the best dunker. But I love Bourbon's dunks in tea. They're so sweet. And a good old-fashioned digestive is pretty good in tea, actually. Absorbs it nicely.

But again, to be honest with you, coffee, much better a biscuit soaked in coffee. Oh no. Yeah. No, thank you. What do you think, everybody? 0-7-8-219-19 I think a plain digestive can be dunked in a coffee but you couldn't dunk a custard cream in a coffee no yeah I wouldn't dunk a custard cream whatsoever really

oh I love a custard cream in a cup of tea they're really sweet they are sweet but I love a custard cream they're sweet from Bourbons nice bisbis you know is it NICs dunked are nice they're very thin though you've got to be very quick yes there's a there's a knack Yeah, yeah. Garibaldi. Don't like Garibaldies. They're the ones you break off, don't they come?

Yeah, they're dunk, all right? Jammy Dodger. Again, funny one, that, but it's got like a flavour. It's like a strawberry flavour with tea. I have to say, though, bourbons. Chocolate and coffee works. Bourbons, I've got a very distinct flavour. If you put a bourbon in a biscuit tin with other biscuits,

it infects the whole biscuit tin. No, no, no. It does, it contaminates it. No. If you put a ginger nut, it, it. the ginger nut is a nasty little fella I know but you know what I like a ginger nut they're a bit of a bully

Yeah They contaminate you can dunk them a few times They're well hard Yes But that really does affect their You know their peers If you put a bourbon I'm telling you now next to a digestive

It's ruined I've never experienced that What about What would happen if you put a bourbon Next to a ginger nut Game over I don't know whether they're so overpowering that it could work I think the answer is the bourbon would end up tasting gingery

The bourbon is not going to make the ginger nut change flavour I wish Harry Hill is here Because there'd be a fight now between the ginger nut and the bourbon And they'd run on stage and there'd be a fight I also can't get Ed Shearing out of my head While we're having this conversation Ed Shearine? Why?

Is it there? Oh, now we're being gingerous, are we? Brilliant. That's cue a load of messages. Ed Shearin's brilliant. He's got it right, aren't he? Everything Ed Sheeran does is brilliant. Everything.

He hasn't had a phone since 2014. No, because he's probably got a bloke next to him who's got a phone. I know, I know. We know someone else like that. that it's a load of nonsense i know but in it lovely not to have one well yeah not have to need to go through your own phone is interesting but you've got you've got a team of people that go through your phone yeah that's true that is true talking of celebs which i don't do often i had to screenshot something for you today oh yeah because it reminded me of you grace dent can i just say

congratulations because she's got the new master chef gig i like grace i went on her pod years go She went to dinner, Mark. You're going to like this. Yeah. She had dessert as a main course and then a dessert. Perfect. She said not a law in the land can stop me. Isn't that your dream?

Now, you've never done that though, have you? You've never been to a restaurant and ordered a dessert for your main and a dessert. No, I've done a starter and a starter as a main. Yes. Never had a dessert and a... dessert. I don't think so. But I

really thought of you. Yeah, well I've said it all the lot. I thought there's a scope for a restaurant. I mean it sort of exists. I won't say the name. But there's well in boron wood actually. And there's a few of them about. And all they really do are desserts.

It kind of is there. But I do think there's scope for a sort of upmarket restaurant in London that focuses mainly on the dessert side of things. And you could make a bit of a theme with it. You could be quite clever with it because you could have, you know, I'm not just saying you just have ice creams and stuff.

No. You could be really clever, couldn't you? You could have an ice cream that was... Bacon and egg. Like Heston Blumenthal's ice cream. That kind of thing. They did that. Yeah.

It could all be based on sweets. Savory stuff. But have savory elements within. Like my Pecora waffles, for instance, that I did on Cooking with the Stars. Never tried one, but yeah. Yes, you did. Oh, I know a thing you mean. With the fried chicken.

But what I'm saying is I used the waffle machine and they were savoury waffles. You did, you did. Yeah, so that kind of thing. Interesting. I just think there's a, yeah, I think it's just different. It's always nice to do something a little bit different. Talking of cooking with the stars. Yes.

Fancy making any of that food at some point? Yes, I would like to do that I want to start cooking a lot more Yeah But when you've got 450,000 things In your brain Yeah I haven't got time to even go shopping

As you know this week Because you've been so kind to do it for me Fair enough Well you've been busy And I was poorly yesterday I didn't feel well I do miss your cooking now Yes

I get a bit bored of my own Well to be honest In the last four or five days I've had fish and chips twice What's worse? Tonight I was like Right I've got my favourite

My favourite chips at the moment In the air fry My naked McCains They are good I recommend them actually Really nice Boring, plain Really nice

Got no flavour whatsoever They're fine They're just as it says On a packet Potato and sunflower So I had those My lovely bit of fish That I get from Costco

And I thought, do I have beans with it? Which obviously I love. Or do I want peas with it? And I thought, I had beans last time. I thought, yeah, I'll have beans again. So that's really poor. When we open a large tin of Heinz beans, everybody.

Well, I get a multi-pack, don't I, have a big one? You do. Bargain. The problem is, it's not a bargain. It is? It isn't, because most of the time, the half a tin, you decant into a Tupperware. and it gets left and it needs to be thrown away.

Sunday night. No, I know. I opened a full set, a full set, a full tin. No, I know. We've had this conversation. Me and Johnny had half each word, it's a treat. Yes.

A week previously to that, I'd split a tin. And I said to you, three or four days later, as I got the other half of the tin out from the three. I tell you exactly what you said. You said, this is the first time. This is the first time

I've used the tin. And what's terrible About those larger tins They're actually cheaper than buying the half tins Which is, I think, a little bit of a con Well, I do Yeah I mean, I know you get the microwaveable pots

But they're not very good for the environment And they don't taste the same, the beans Absolutely right They don't They're all plasticy, it's weird They need a good 20 years of sat in that steel tin or however long they leave them in there for to give it that kind of patina and flavour.

What does patina mean? Wrong use of word. I know you're going to pull me up on that. Patina is more a look. So a patina would be, you know, Bernard's got a Ford Model T. Yeah. And it's in its completely original paint

that was painted at the factory. It's obviously over the last hundred years, faded and worn, and it's got what we would call a patina. So it's kind of a name given to things when they're original. Is that like a photograph being sepia? Yeah. It's normally a paint that's faded or changed with time or a bit of rust or...

Fair enough. Yeah, patina. It's kind of like basically, it's used a lot as almost like a term of endearment. Right. For when something looks a bit old. And it's, you know, the old car enthusiast will call it a patina. Oh, hi there. My name is Beth. This is particularly a message for Mark. I was just listening to the most recent scraping the bowel episode. I just wanted to mention something about the veg. I worked in Sainsbury's for a while. And I also thought, oh, they don't put dates on veg anymore. They do. It's still there. It's just kind of. It's just kind of. coded. So if you look at, I'll see if I can find a picture, but if you look at your packet

next time, there is the date, but it's slightly coded in a different way. So it will say like D for date, 25, say for the 25th for month, it's done like that. So it doesn't look like and obvious the 25th of May but it is on the packet and that is well I would have thought that's because if anything should happen then they are you know covered but yeah days are still there just thought I would let you know um my name's Beth from Hampshire and love over the pod guys just waiting to get my hand on some tickets for the live show cheers thank you Beth for being so informative you should have a closer look at those packets shouldn't you well beth's ruined it now for the last like two years people have been going and buying veg thinking oh it's great there's

no date on it and people have been using their you know their brains a little bit and now beth's going to explain actually the date's still on the packet i would imagine there's not just beth that knows that but yes it's quite a niche bit of knowledge it is and it's funny because you'd think they would have put a packing date on there and not a best before date. That's the interesting thing. Yes. Because what they're kind of saying is

there's no need for a best before date or used by a date. But a packing date, which is coded on most things, I believe, food-wise, a packing date would make sense. Emma got extremely serious when she was editing. I'm on the salad bit of scraping

and this is why I'd say it's worth being extra careful with ready to eat salad. Then she has sent me a BBC news article saying bagged salad is salmonella risk, a study finds. Then she said salad is risky. Otherwise, I'm fully on board with using your own scents for best before and even used by dates. But she was not okay about salad.

You shouldn't be buying salad in a packet. Go and buy a lettuce. Honestly. I agree. It's no different to the, I mean, like the classics, the, some of my pet hates, the sliced apple in a packet. Yeah, but for children. Please. No, but for children, when you're out and about as a snack.

You can pick the apple up and bite into it. No, for children, I've just said for toddlers. Right, they can pick the apple up and bite it. Not if they haven't got all their teeth, they can't. No. But would they, when eat an apple sliced? Yeah. With no...

Okay. The new one I noticed the other day. Never seen it before. Go on. The broccoli that's been chopped up into little trees. Trees. Seriously. Florets.

How old are you, five? I don't want trees on my plate. Please don't like me eat the trees. It sounded really old and not young then. Maybe it's for the toddlers again, for when they're snacking. No, raw broccoli. Shut up. I'm telling you, if Gwyneth Paltrow,

Chris Martin had toddlers now. And they'd probably be buying that for them to eat. I'm pretty certain that again, that's not the target market for that. I know, I'm joking. Right, okay. Hello, it's Emma from Chigwell. I've just

dropped my daughter off and was listening towards the end of the podcast, but I've just pulled up outside my house, but I've just switched it off after you saying I'd love to do the Palladium and then Mark saying, I did something against palladium

and you just going under your breath it just made me laugh but whilst I was driving to her to scouts my daughter she's 12 I thought of the TV show look and read that we used to watch at school this is so good

and I was going look and read and going like the eyes used to do and then I was trying to when we got to Scouts I was trying to bring up a video but it's like in this land where mobile data doesn't work so I couldn't quite get it up to show her but yeah it just was very nostalgic for me

and she was like all this old stuff she was non-plus by it yeah just thought I'd share that for your nostalgia podcast that you put together Thank you so much for that Not so much a nostalgic podcast tonight But I had to play it

Mark's eyes have lit up Look and read Can I have a look because I can't remember Right look and read So it was a series Look and read was a series They did different ones So as you progressed up

When you're at school So I remember we used to go and sit on the carpet Because in our classroom we had like one little square Of carpet When the whole class sat The rest of the floor was like tiles I think, or herringbone. And each week you'd watch look and read.

Well, I can remember two. 1967? There was one which was through the dragon's eye, which was absolutely brilliant. I even remember, I actually can remember, look, let me show you.

How can you remember this stuff? Right, genuinely, I'm not making this up. Look, I've done a Google, search. Look at that. Unbelievable. Through the Dragon's Eye. What does it say?

Look and read. Yep. That one was brilliant. I quite like there was a girl with a Bob haircut in it. Did you quite fancy? I did. I was about six. Yeah.

You don't remember Through the Dragon's Eye. We had this conversation. No. I don't remember Look and Read at all. I'm looking at all the pictures. You don't remember Through the Dragon's Eye? No. The program presents fictional stories in a serial format,

the first of which was broadcast in 1967 and the most recent in 2004, making it the longest-running nationally broadcast program for schools in the UK. That is crazy stuff. So as well as Through the Dragon's Eye, the other one that I watched at school was Jordy Racer. which was absolutely brilliant. It was all about a really creepy man

who nicked birds of praise eggs. Oh, that sounds a bit spooky. It was really, really good. Some of these shows back in the day were quite dark. Yeah, George, honestly. And the Pete and the car, I need to look up the cast list, but it had like loads and known people in. This is pre-Biker Grove, look.

Well thanks Emma for this This is riveting now We're taking a deep dive in to look and read for you I'm going to be watching this tonight A bit of through a dragon's eye Brilliant It was so good I can't remember if some others we watched

But it was like a thing we had to watch at school Do you remember we were talking about dinosaurs Yes Last week Rachel Davis has said Hi now I've asked a message I listened to scraping the barrel 28 this morning When you and Mark were discussing Diana Source, I was so confused.

I'm an 84 baby so grew up at the same time as you and just couldn't picture this Diana Source show you kept mentioning. Anyway, I lifted up my phone and noticed that there were captions and you were talking about dinosaurs. Honestly, I was proper giggling to myself as I was walking the dog. Thanks for the laughs as ever. make sure you bring your tour to the Midlands to, preferably Wolverhampton. Now, did we sound like we were saying, Diana Source?

You might have done, I don't know. It is a possibility. But, you know, Tim. Do I know Tim? Right. You know, he sent me this. That's Tim. That's brilliant.

He's not bad at impressions. He's very, very good. Have you seen his suit that he's going to be sporting for the live show? Yes, he sent it to me. Isn't it fantastic? That's one word for it. Mr. Critty loves Christmas. Yeah.

Fantastic. Yeah. Happy birthday to Germany from Mr. Tumble. Boing. It's a spot for you bird. That was Tim. I mean, that is really good. Oh, no.

Justin should be quaking in his boots. Oh, very impressive that. I do have to mention lists because on my solo chat on Monday, I brought lists up and how many lists you make. And I sort of said that I don't make lists and who makes lists. And I have been inundated, including Rowe, actually, who sent me a message saying, oh my God, she doesn't stop making lists all the time.

And I thought it was a bit sad. But since Monday's episode, everybody makes lists. Yeah. Everybody who listens. Even Bex, who's my twin from the pod, makes lists. Even Samantha makes loads of lists. So I'm just writing my Costco list. I'm just going to play these from Samantha, friend of the pod.

and I do call her Alice from the vicaridible And some people might think that's unkind But just have a listen to these a minute Hello my darling I hope you're good Just a quick one Not that you're bothered But I just remember

That I haven't told you Why I won't be coming to the Bath book tour And I'm gutted Because it's like 10 minutes from my house But I'm going to Greece Tomorrow morning So I will be be eating a feta and spinach pastry, I expect, on Friday, whilst you're at the book, Torin Barth.

But I hope it all goes well, my darling. And I will obviously look forward to seeing you on the 7th of December. Can't bloody wait. Literally highlight of the year. Anyway, I hope you're good, my angel. And I've got to go, so we'll get back to your pod. Love you. Bye.

Me again, love. sorry, just listening to Nat's Chats, number four, this making the list, this is the one thing that has come up where we do not match, literally love, we're literally twins on everything else. But the list, I love a list, I make a list, and then I make a list, and then I'll, like, tick those bits off the list, but then if I do something extra, I'll add it to the list and then put a tick. It's just so satisfying. Oh, yeah. Love a list. Can't beat a list. Love a list. Get on board with the lists. Honestly, it's like a riddle. Fucking out. Could I sound any more like Alice? I get the joke now. Bloody out. What am I like?

That has taken you nearly a year to understand why I call you Alice. And those three messages, wrap it up for me, Samantha. Have a cracking time in Greece, love. I mean, I'm surprised that you don't do lists. Well, you're very organised. I... Imagine how organised you'd be if you did lists. A little bit like, even before doing your podcast, having a list, an order, a running order, strange. It's crazy, actually.

Frankie said, I am a list person. I am known for lists. I have a list for Christmas with presents, cost. And if it's wrapped or not, I have a list. or not. I have three lists at work. The common phrases, can you add that to the list? I have about five lists going at once. Yes, I'm insane and a possible control freak, but I am so happy with the list. It's like a comfort blanket. Without a list, I feel so lost. I mean, oh, she's also said, loving the pod, P.S. Really trying to find a way to get up to clapham on the seventh. Is Tim

taking the coach? Frankie, I don't know whereabouts you are, but I'm sure Tim will let us know. Pretty certain that Frankie is Frankie from New Forest ice cream. Really? Mm. Well. Which is probably why she's asking if Tim,

who is practically a neighbour, is going to be taking the coach to the... Well, Tim, could you let us know if you're taking the coach? Yeah, and can you bring the freezer and maybe whacking some ice creams? Be appreciated. Yeah, you're saying that, though, women can happen. we're there for a good few hours

and then we've got to travel home Yeah, we're eating when we're there Oh, fair enough Fair enough So Ashley reminds me Because Frankie sent me something I need to do What do you need to do? I can't talk about it

It's all top secret Oh Okay There's a lot of top secret things going on at the moment You know Is there really? Yes Regarding what?

Lots of things Such as Just the pod show in general really Organisation Things going on It's very good But yeah In terms of lists

I think I need to start Trying to write them Because I feel now A little bit upset That I'm not part of this gang Were you hoping That everyone was going to turn around Yeah

Really have a go at me for doing a list No not have a go at you But I thought it would be more split I mean it says here Examples of list makers The organised planner Uses structured dedicated lists digital or physical for various purposes, such as a daily to-do list or a separate list for

household chores. The creative brainstormer creates lists to capture big ideas and can generate numerous lists for different aspects of a project or a question. I'd say I am a creative brainstormer. I do a lot of writing it down in notebooks. I don't list stuff down, but I do have different notebooks all around with sort of ideas and info in. Does it not bother you that they're just scattered all over the place, those notebooks? It's quite interesting that. Yeah, I know what notebooks for different things. Okay.

I'm just very surprised. You strike me as somebody that would... Enjoy making the list. And I think also, I suppose it says a lot about somebody if they feel they don't need to have a list, but you would do. You're pretty busy at the moment. It would make sense. Yeah. I think you'd be more reassuring for you knowing that, I mean, the other day, I suddenly realised I hadn't replied to an email. Yes. Which was about nine days. And it actually required a reply immediately. It was quite important what it was regarding. And yesterday,

whilst doing a very menial job, I suddenly remembered, I hadn't replied to that email. And rushed in and did... Now, that had not been on a list. If I'd put it on a list, obviously it would have been done and dusted. Yes.

Well, it says here, common examples of non-list makers are the schedule builder. Instead of a task list, this person manages their time by creating a detailed daily schedule. Same thing. focuses on allocating time

to the most important tasks Yeah, that's getting a bit Now that's getting a bit much I wonder if that's me though But in my head everything's time based I'm obsessed with time But the schedule What you're doing is making it down

It's just in the head Right, okay The other one is the mental organiser This individual relies on their memory To keep track of what needs to be done They're not just a little bit mad While they may be remarkably efficient A lack of external reminders

can sometimes lead to anxiety or forgetting less urgent tasks, which I would say is me. I get very overwhelmed and quite anxious when I've got those to do. So I'm going to try it, guys. I'm going to go with it.

You put pen to paper? Well, I put a lot of pen to paper, actually, but I'm going to try it and write a list. Okay. I'll let you know how it goes. I mean, you don't even write a list on pen of paper anymore. You do it on the iPad. No, I've gone back to the pen and paper

Why? Because it was meant I had to have my iPad open all the time Yeah Like the other day I had so much stuff to sort out During the day So many little bits and bulbs

My iPad would have just died It was just to be open permanently Powered up A bit of paper's fine It is Paper and a pen Did you take a photo of me down here? I did, yeah

I am a strange angle my back's really hurting maybe tonight I need to sleep on the floor you know so he's sort of stretch out a bit worried about that why have I done that I just haven't got time for it darling

I don't know why you even went to move because I'd pushed it nearer to the chair to put my paperwork on it last night whilst I do my assignment and I've put it back today I tidied it up because the ironic thing is I was thinking about my back because it was hurting whilst on the sofa last night.

Right. And I was bending over to the laptop. And I could feel the lower part of my back. Yeah. And I thought, I'm going to go and move all this to the kitchen. Put it on the table. Yeah, yeah. And then I've done my back in.

Oh, dear. Sorry. Sorry. Anyway, there we go. Half 11 again, everybody. I'm sorry if I faded in and out a bit, but I've been in all sorts of positions whilst recording this pod. But do you know what?

I could have said, I'm not doing the pod. First day, there won't be a pod. I've got a bad back. I'm going to go and lay down. But do I want to do that? Hang on a minute. What?

Losing your voice. Fair enough. Don't record a podcast. You can't not do a podcast because you've got a bad back. Don't I'm in agony here. Well, you are now because you've decided to get off of your haunches and just sort of having to duck down and speak into a microphone that's pointing down to the ground.

I know, but when I've been sat in a seat today, be it on the train or in the car. Yeah. When I try to get up, it's excruciating. Oh, dear. I'm fine when I'm walking about, upright. Why don't you give, what's her face a shout? Sports massage lady.

Oh, she was brilliant. I think you might want to invest in one of those tomorrow, maybe. Maybe, yeah. I could do with one as well, to be fair. I'll put it on the list. Clever that. I like tying things up. I'm getting better at that, linking things together.

in like a comedic style I think you peaked maybe I think the best one I think scraping about episode 4 or 5 there was a really good one where we sort of segued neatly between sopics and ever since then it's gone boldly downhill

That's because you Actually did write a list for that episode There you go So There you go Right then Hey ho, there we go I hope you enjoyed that episode everybody

I'm in bath tomorrow third next week my book is out on the ninth it's publication week next week so there's lots of me going about doing things to do with the book

which is quite fun lots of radio lots of television if your back holds up if my back holds up yeah can make it out could you yeah it'd be fine

did you say you're going to bath or you're going to have a bath tomorrow I'm going to bar going to bath. You weren't having Epsom salts or anything like that. No, but that is a good idea also.

I think I should have a bath before going to bath. Yes. It's probably a good idea. Do you think people in bath have a bath and make a joke about the fact? You know, like around here

people go, where are you going? Where? And it's all where. Where's where? Where's where? Yeah. Do you think the same applies

with bath? People say, oh, I'm going to have a bath. Do they say bath or bath? Oh no they're not northern are they No If you're from Bath I think you say Bath Pretty certain

If you're from Bath For North You say Bath Bath Bath Bath Well it's like Samantha

Alice All right Rayla I'm gonna have a bath Bath bath bath bath bath Bath It's more like that It's the BA

Isn't it That Bar So if someone calls bath Bath. What noise would a sheep make? For them?

For them. Baa. No, it's... Baff. Ba. Now do the sheep. Bar. See, you went a bit deeper there.

No, that's Bar-Barr. That's what we say. Bar-Bar Black Sheep. Yeah. Now do Baff. Bha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-version of Baff. Bha-ha. Very good.

That was good, though. You're quite good at accents, regional. No, I'm not. What, doing a bar? That worked. Where's Alice from? Her name's Alice, though, is it? Samantha.

Samantha. Samantha. I have her in my phone as Samantha, Alice Vicaradibli. So it just reminds me when she pops up. That's good, yeah. It's not regional, regional, uh, I don't know what the word would be. Regional prejudice or? No, it's because she sounds like Alice.

Okay. I can't wait to meet her. There's so many people I can't wait to meet. I think I'm more excited about meeting my listeners than they are meeting me. Bex, I can't wait to see. She's coming to where next week? Where? Where?

Where's where? Why is she going to where? For the book signing. Oh. No, he's coming. Right. Bex. It's going to be a riot.

Are you going to take your money? microphones, you're going to do like a little... No, it's going to be chaos. Oh. I know. That's it. Okay. Emma did say she could pop along, but genuinely I'm book signing and then doing questions isn't any time for it.

Okay. And that won't make a fun pod. Maybe a few riotous voice notes. I can record a few memos. Yeah. Voice memos on my phone, maybe. That's a good idea. I've got that in my diary.

I think you've written that in... Why have you put that in my diary? I have no idea. You're going to have to have Jones. it can't make sense yeah me and joan he'll be back on to back to the future one by then I think

going for a back to the future chung fest don't you she's very happy I've got an interesting thing to finish on so be careful

just because it is nice to keep it up on a Thursday evening let people go couldn't agree more the chance would be a fine thing no it would it really would so I wanted to watch back to the

I mean that has been terrible the last few weeks. I wanted to watch Back to the Future because you'd not ever seen it. I thoroughly enjoyed it and I mean that. Loved it. And at the end,

they kind of trail and tease Back to the Future 2. End of the film. And I'm thinking, yep, this is all very familiar. And I know Back to the Future 3 really well. I used to watch it all the time because obviously it's got a train in it. So we then get on to Back to the Future 2.

Now, you've not seen this. As I just said, let's speed it up a little. I haven't seen back to the future two. I hadn't seen until the other day. Okay. How has that happened? Ask your mum. Yeah, mum.

Why did I never see back to the future two? I've definitely seen one. I haven't phoned your mum. And I've seen three loads. It's terrible. It's really bad. Really bad how busy. been. It's actually boring.

But why did I never see, we didn't have it on VHS, maybe, but that doesn't really make sense. I don't get it. All right. Well, Jack, could you please answer this question? I don't understand. Is it was a bit violent? A bit scary, maybe? A little bit, maybe. Maybe. Who knows? Joni loved it, though. Good. And then we're on to three now.

Well, it's really nice. What a lovely thing you're doing. Yeah. As a shame of Liza's not been interested, so I thought she would have enjoyed it. I have to say. You've not really wanting to see Back to the Future too, have you? Not massively, not in the same week. No, it's so good. But that's quite a...

But Joni was really up for that too. You get into something quickly, don't you? And you're in it, in it for the taking. Absolutely. For a good week or two, that's obsessive sort of in it. You'll be on to something new soon. Home alone, I was thinking. Could be a good one.

I'm up for Home Alone. What now? This time a year? Don't tell me you'd watch Home Alone now because that makes me very happy. Oh, because of a bloody quick... Oh, yeah. I forgot on about that.

We can watch Home Alone, One, Two and Three. You know, I'm surrounded by Christmas decorations at work. We can start it. We can start it next week. No, not Home Alone. We've got to make the Christmas cake, by the way. No, it's so early. Sam Nixon, from Sam and Mark Fame years ago.

Remember the two Norverners? Sam and Mark? Of C. BBC. Javanna Fletcher, this is a lot. long-winded story, but lovely Giovanna Fletcher. I did her podcast the other day, which be out soon. And Joanna said, God, do you follow Sam? I've just made my Christmas cake. I said, I beg you, pardon? What is this talk of someone making a cake before me? She said, do you not follow him? I've just found my new favourite Instagram account. And to top it all off, I dropped him

a little message, didn't I? I said, Sam, Giovanna's made me find you. This is amazing. Please could you come on the pod and talk about your Christmas prep? And he wants to. So it's a lovely little episode for you. But if you don't follow him at Sam Nixon, and all it is is cooking and prep, Christmas cakes, frozen vegetables, marsy, pat chocolate, soufflays, he's a fantastic chef.

I mean, maybe you all know this, and I've completely missed it. But what a great account. You know, I did some summer prep yesterday. Seeds? Don't. All of the outdoor furniture covers have been washed and put back on their cushions and stalled away ready for next spring. That is so satisfying. How good is that going to be next year?

Look at this. Lovely clean. All away Yep That's really, really good Yeah, pleased about that It's really good Proactive

Why are you saying that as if I'm not? I have not For one second suggested You're not I'm not at the moment You wouldn't be wrong I'm just sort of getting jobs done Things that need to be done

But the house has taken a back seat Paper and pen You could do a little order of what things to do and what needed doing. You could call it, I don't know, a to-do list. See you on Monday, everybody. Tarah. Tarah?

Tarra? Tarra. Yeah. Still at black in the building. God rest of the soul. Tarah for now.