Life with Nat - EP175: Scraping the Barrel #33 - Is Marc silently listening? Or not listening at all?

Episode Date: November 27, 2025

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Firstly, hello everyone. Hello everyone. Is that? Happy scraping the barrel day. Funny intro there, wasn't it? I quite like getting into it. Right. Any more festive?

Yeah. I'm more festive than you'd imagine. Really? Yeah. Have you done my Christmas present yet? No. Okay. I've done probably all of yours.

No. I think they're all done. I'm looking quite pleased with yourself there. Yeah. So actually, I think I'm... It's very good for you, actually. Because sometimes you do get stressed about presies, don't you? I get stressed about doing the photo, the family photo calendars.

That is something you've created yourself? Rod for my own back, as they say. Absolutely. But one of the most special presents, and we all look forward to it. So the pressure is always on. Well, you say we all look forward to it. There's a third of the recipients don't enjoy it now. I've had a lecture tonight.

Oh. I mean, all the photos have to be. be approved now, even for Joni's calendar. No. Then it needs to be approved. I was told tonight they've got to be approved. She's got to go through all the pictures and they've got to be signed off and then they can be included in Joni's calendar and the family calendar.

God, it's like Vogue magazine. She's like Anna Wintour. That's very unprofessional. My phone just made a noise. That's the first time since we started this podcast that's ever happened. I do apologise. Well, it is quite early for us. It is.

Nine o'clock? Yeah. Very early. Darren said to me, yesterday, are you going to go home and do a podcast? And I said, that's really weird you think that, because yeah, we probably are. Yeah. And we didn't in the end of it, but it's too late. Thing is, talking of yesterday, such a lovely day with Julia and the girls, we do that kind of yearly annual thing, if we can.

But I haven't actually seen Julia. I mean, it's quite ridiculous. my friend who lives up the road for over nine months. You know what she needs to do? What? She needs to tell you she's going to move to Australia. I think she'd see more often

before she then moves to Australia. That's not true either, because that didn't happen. What I thought would be there. You'd try. Yeah, so we had a lovely day out, but what I was going to say about us not doing a pod last night is a day in London kills me.

I'm sorry, it does. Get that Largo playing. What's Largo? Oh, yeah. Hovis. That is the Hovis advert, actually. Yeah, see. Yeah.

I can play that. My keyboard book series, like Beginners book one or something. It was... Carry on, sorry. It's all right. You just look at me and you think, why is he speaking?

No, no. I thought we could go into your repertoire. of what you can play and then I thought let me just finish the you know the cocks are turning the cocks are working

right so yeah I find it a really nice day out but once I get home once you've been on the train and all of that I find it

I don't know how people commute to work every day or even just go to work can you imagine that that on a daily basis you have to go to the same place to do the same job. No, I can't imagine that.

No. You're, I'm being serious. It's not my fault. Right, okay. Anyway. Anyway, you can play chopsticks. Oh, I can't play chopsticks. Oh, you can't?

Nope. Hovis advert. I can't play that. A little bit of it. It's three chords. You can play the Simpsons. I can. And you can play the big song.

You know Tom Hanks, big. Not quite at the stage where we're going to do it as a segment in your live show yet, are we? No. I think Joni will get there before you. Very likely. They've been going well, haven't they, sweetheart? The last one was good.

It was good, yeah. You enjoyed yourself? Yeah, it's right. Yeah, it's nice. I noticed that the... I know we're not allowed to talk about the dates yet, but there's new dates coming out, and I noticed that you only allowing me to do, like, two of us. of them.

We're not allowed to talk about the new dates. What if they don't happen? We haven't said when they are. We've just said at some point. At some point next year, there are six dates currently in the diary. And not... Sorry, hang on.

I'm not having this. I'm not having this. Three of them, 50% of them you're working. Yeah. Is that my fault? Three out of six, yeah. Is that my fault? No.

The first one, I'd like you to be at home to baby. I think you should make you think, hang on a minute, if I pay it. Hang on, people will kill me for saying babysit really bad. I don't mean babysit. I mean, you look after your own children. Hang on, can I just say? Yes.

But the person who finds that more offensive than anyone else saying babysit is me. No, I know. But I do it. Just before you say that. Even I do it. I say I've got to babysit the kids. I don't mean that, you know. Back to the dates thing.

Yes. So firstly, yes, I've taken some paid work. here we go because I don't get paid for your... No? You're sure? And Scott has already said to me

any more issues to get in touch with him and send him another message. He said he's always there for me his door's always open and he said to let him know and apparently he suggested that they're

that, I mean there's some unions who get a bit funny about this. Really? Yeah. So he said I've got every right to... I think I pay you in food shopping per week

Yeah Possibly We go for that Yeah Maybe You're thinking about an agent now though This is interesting

I've already I've got the offer Oh what He said to me He said that He's been on record You've read the message out I think

What would you do If in fact I've got on voice note Which leads nicely From this conversation I never quite know Which Epps I prefer I think I get

different things out of different, you know, depending which family member you're with. I love them all. I really do. But I think after just listening to the last scraping the barrel, I think it is you a mark that I prefer. I definitely laugh the most listening to you too. You're funny together. You are. I can see you

presenting something together. Maybe not this morning, but something, yeah, love it. Like a Euro trash, sort of. You'd like that, won't you? A few Lola Ferrari. who is knocking about? Who was that? I haven't got a name.

Sorry. My fault. It's really hard when I'm organising them sometimes to just remember that, to do that. It is lovely if people pop their name on.

Otherwise, it's a little bit more admin. It's going into the message. It's clicking at the top. It's seeing if there's a name. What a nightmare. Sounds so arduous. There's people out there this morning in the pouring rain.

It's miserable, no doubt. What days is it's full. Thursday. Yeah, it's going to be raining. It's terrible. Six o'clock in the morning, pouring of rain. Oh, she couldn't just copy the name on the... She sent the... Oh, poor Natalie. But what do you think about that? About what? What could we present together?

The one show? No. I'm not going to be presenting anything. I think I could do it if you were next to me. No, you could do it. I couldn't. No problem. No. But I think if you were next to me, I could do it.

Why? Because the moral support, the backup. For fuck sake. It's not in a tin mug, is it? Not going. No. Which is why it's not spilling everywhere. Your mate messaged in, by the way, about that.

Mark, I've just seen you on... Insta, talking about your engine mug. And if it's tin, and I know exactly what you mean, we had tin mugs to drink tea out when we were little. And he used to set my bottom teeth on edge. I can't, I can't even use them now. Anyway, I just saw I pass that on. Okay, chabes.

Dood, dood. Can we just talk about with goodbye there? Yeah. Chow babes. Dood, do. Yeah. You know, Eliza's friend,

And Astor, best friend, her mum, when we're chatting, she'll say, how's Mark? She sends me messages like that. I think it's quite not. It's a bit strange, that. I think it's quite cute. Okay. Well, he does it as well. Yeah, he's allowed, he's sort of always taking the Mickey out of me quite extravagantly.

A bit of a character is Alex. Yep. Well known, many of the listeners would have seen him on Steph's Pat Lunch. He was permanently featured, didn't he? Was he? Yes. Shame that went, by the way. Yeah.

He would agree with you on that one as well. It is a shame. It was a shame. It's a good show that. But no, he was on it a lot. I saw that Sarah Davis is doing a crafting sort of afternoon show. Not sure what channel. She's done that for quite a long time.

That's sort of how she made her money. Yes, I know, but it's not a QVC. I mean, it's a ITV or something. Oh, it's sort of a Christmas crafting thing with interviews. It looks quite good for Christmas, looking forward to it. Nice. You'd love a bit of crafting, don't you? All over it.

You have scissors and cellar tape. I'll get some cellar tape out in a minute. Stick it over your mouth. Gaffer tape would be more appropriate. Really unbelievable. I'd love to do more crafting. When am I going to fit that in? My heart, but I wonder what you're going to say then.

Yeah, nice. When I've got time to do that? crafting. I don't know. How's your Christmas cake come on? You're making your Christmas puddings, aren't you? I'm not doing Christmas puddings. Why? We've had this conversation.

No, we've not. Absolutely not. What is wrong with you? I'm tired. I have a lot of messages and a lot of women. They get me. I bet they do. Because why do you not listen, you guys?

We've had a full scale conversation. I have lifted out of the cupboard of Fortnham and Mason Christmas pudding we will also Is it particularly big? No, I've got it out of the cupboard It was a gift last year

Got like a crane in It was a gift last year And I said to you, it's still in date and everything And I said that needs to be eaten So therefore I am not going to make a pudding I've made shit loads of meat to meat. Hang on a minute There was a Christmas pudding in the cupboard

and it's genuinely about that long. It's at least 12 inches. I'm going to go and get it. I'm going to go and get it. What? Go on. It is. I'm not going to get it.

It's tiny little thing. It's not that small. However, no doubt I'll grab one from MNS as well. So I don't need to make one this year. And you know why? I've made loads of little ones and I've now discovered that no bastard has had it. That's true.

I go to Ely one, Linda one. No one's, oh, where is it? I don't know. Might be in the cupboard. What's the point of me slaving away at the stove? Well, I don't know. So, I've done jars of mincemeat. A lot of jars of mincemeat.

Well, lovely. I hope we've got enough pastry and I'm looking forward to them. I've done a couple of Christmas cakes. They smell divine. Really looking forward to those. The loaf of one I'm not sure about. But the round one, I think, it's okay. Why you keep saying that?

Because I left it in for too long. I should have taken it out. No. No, I did. It looks springy to me. No, it's not actually. But it being a loaf, it may be a little bit denser than the round. I don't think it is.

And one thing I'm right at doing usually is a loaf cake. And because it's going to be sitting for so long, it tends to sort of dry out. No, it doesn't. Not with the amount of booze you pour into it. Well, I am then coating it in brandy But Cherry brandy

Cherry brandy tonight Yeah I see it's weekly drink Yeah so I don't know I've just got a feeling I'm gonna knock another one up

And I might put icing on that one I quite like the whole Marsy pan icing thing I need to get Claire's recipe She does a light fruit cake

Christmas cakey sort of It's so good Well why don't you get that I need to. Tell you the other... Very protective about her recipes, I've noticed. Well, it's fair enough. I'll tell you another one that I wish I'd got.

Maybe you could have a little go at work. Rudolph's rum cake. Christmas cake. I can ask him? I have never... Four bites. Pist as assholes. Do you know what I made Moa, carrot cake?

I do. Carrot cake's good. Yeah, carrot cake's great. I haven't done that for a long time. I love a carrot cake. Hmm. I've made my stuffing. Yep.

So we'll see how that comes out. I'm nervous about it. Yeah. But I've followed the recipe on BBC Good Food. Busy week, have you? When did you do that one? I did that on Saturday, Mark. Right, okay.

Rashed off your feet. Well, you rushed off your feet last week when you were making Christmas cakes. I had to. And I had to make stuffing. You, I was at work. I was driving back from Liverpool. You were? We haven't had a roast dinner for a while, either.

No, I'm going to do it on Sunday. Nice, okay. Because we've got a cracking weekend planned, haven't we? Well, it's a nice surprise, isn't it? Because I wasn't able to work on Friday, the job I would normally do Friday, Saturday. I can't do the Saturday. So that means you can put the Christmas lights up on Saturday instead of Sunday.

Ah, that is a problem there. Why? Let me just hang on a second. let's just have a little look here okay so Saturday is the 29th of November correct Sunday is the 30th of November

and then we're into what we call December on the first that's the Monday the next available day I could do it after the 1st of December is getting late we're talking 10th of December that's way too late

So because we don't obviously want to be putting up anything Christmas in November because we're normal Obviously, 29th don't need to Because I've got the 30th I've still got the 30th Because it's a little bit closer to the first It's less than 12 hours from the first So I don't feel it was bad

I might even resist the temptation Of switching them on Once I've erected them We need to put them on to make sure they work No, no, no, no. I think you should do that on Saturday. No, I was going to do a little switch on. I thought we could invite a few people from the pub.

We could maybe do a little, we could get a little red box. Joni could have a little sequin jacket on. And a little plunger thing. Or, Auntie Linney could be her first Christmas light switch on. She'll get in undated with those soon. You might have worse. That is true. There you go.

See, not... Quick for these little ideas. You're not... The Per Noelle? The pro of the embellage Caduce. But Riesce's, the deballage, is who the maher? The mull Rees-O-Bard-Rashid

make your art of the deballage to the deballage, and with three mull on bird-arachid, cremeo and chocolate-forned per packet, you have to what to trainé? To retrove, and again, and again, this pleasure-sucre-sacly. And, again, And again

The Pern-N-Hell to his biscuits You're, Tarriece And there's We've got Christmas fairs Over the weekend That we could visit

Yeah Yeah I mean It takes literally What Five minutes To hang up 8,000 LED lights

Around the house Yeah I'll pop up to a couple Of Christmas fairs as well Do you like my jumper? What's it saying on it? Merry and Bright Yes

Yes, it's nice Very good It's not over the top It's nice Sort of understated Of the sequence I thought that you would Not be happy

With me wearing a Christmas Jumping No, of course not I haven't As in, of course I wouldn't With all due respect Even I Sat here filming

On the 24th of November Wouldn't usually partake in a Christmas jumper Yeah But I've had a very Christmasy afternoon. It's getting there now. But I have had,

I've been doing a job that was extremely Christmassy, so there we go. Can you talk about the job? Not really. Right. So this last week of November, I think he's okay

for the Christmas Eve. I think we're getting there now. I think so. Because in a month's time it's Christmas Eve and it's all over. One thing I have noticed though, I got the sense

in the live show when we're in Crawley. There's a little underlying thing where I think few listeners seem to, for some reason, got the impression, I'm quite grinchy and quite sort of grinchy, is that a thing? But you can say grinchy. You know, quite sort of not very festive.

No, you're festive, but it needs to be near the time. Yeah. Which is fair enough. I'm just putting that out there because I did get the impression. I'm sure there was a question or a little... A little dig. A little quip. And I thought, actually, I am quite Christmassy.

Once we get near the month it falls in. But we are near now. We're getting there. We are getting there. You've got to remember that my first Christmas tree and Christmas decorations I saw was around about mid-September, I think it was. Yeah. At work.

You know, I've seen a lot of Christmas decorations over a long period of time. I know, but for me, I was in bed last night, and my feed is just filled, obviously, my algorhythm is all... The old algorhythm. What was that a thing? That Sneez's episode was amusing, could I say? I enjoyed that this morning. I haven't finished yet.

Sorry. Algo rhythm. So my algorhythm. So my algorhythm. It's filled with people decorating trees. And I don't get bored of it. No. Different decks, different things.

Just absolutely beautiful. Hang on a minute. I'm a bit like Wolf Feral and Elf. I am a bit like Wolf Farrow and Elf. So what you're saying is, you think your phone's listening to you. You think that the old algorithm on your phone and social media is thought,

hang on a minute. This girl likes Christmas. Yes. You don't think anyone at this time of year seen any other Christmas adverts You don't think at this No, I do But I do think mine is bombarded

With very random people putting up Christmas trees Right You don't think Of accounts that I don't follow Okay You don't think it's because A vast proportion of the world's population Are putting up their Christmas decorations

This week Is your feed filled with Christmas trees? Yes. Oh. Because this is what we like to call in the UK, Christmas time. And generally speaking... You're really getting on my nerves again. Traditionally.

Do you have the old Coca-Cola advert back in the 90s? It's still there. Oh. But do you remember when... I don't think there was any algo rhythms then. When Santa was driving a massive road train over... No, but it's still true that my... Instagram feed is filled with very random accounts of people putting up trees.

What's wrong with that? What are the chances? What are the chances that your feed on social media as we go into December are filled with Christmas post? Can I talk to you about this post we've had message? Did you genuinely think that was some sort of algorithm thing? Moving on from the Victoria sandwich that went around near Wimbledon,

now we have this. Can you ask Mark if he would eat it? I've seen it, no. It's a mince pie, bryosh-style wrap. No. I mean, who would eat that? No. It may be wonder about the strawberries and cream.

Sandwich. What do you mean? There was that white strawberries. That's what she said. Right. Moving on from the Victoria sandwich. Yeah, that was a bit... It was delicious.

Was that Gina Baker? By any chance. Because Gina also sent me a thing saying, Would you eat this? I'm very curious, as I know you'd have a mint pie. And it's a... Oh no, it's... Here we go.

It's... I'll show you. A mince pie brioche-style wrap. I'm fucking out. Please give me some strength. I've just read it out. I've just told you what it was. Oh, I thought it was an M&S thing.

Genuinely, was that, were you joking or did you mean to do that? You meant to do that? You did. Yes, you did. You didn't listen to what I was saying. Was it, Gina, but sent that to you? I don't know. Right, I've got a feeling it was.

Is it the same photo? It's like exactly the same photo. Oh dear. I'm not. Oh, that's a coincidence then. No, I think it is her, but in this one she's with a gentleman and in this one she's on her own

because this is her WhatsApp picture. She sent you that on Insta. Yeah, okay. Keen to get that across for an opinion. wants an opinion and you haven't really given one. Why would you not eat it? No, I replied to her. Let's go through it. I replied to her personally and said,

absolutely no chance. I'll tell you why. Because it's a wrap and it's got mince meat in it and it makes me feel sick. It's really simple. If it was pastry or pie or something, obviously. Not a wrap. Hang on. You're saying you wouldn't mind mince meat in a pastry pie.

so sort of like a mince pie Yeah You're okay with that Yeah Lucky they do those, isn't it Yeah Oh dear I think we've reached a new load today

I don't think we have I do Are you going to decorate the The studio I would like you I'm going to buy some tinsle Online And I'd like you to wrap it around your pole

I haven't got a pole The pole up there Oh I see what you mean Sorry, yeah, you want me to put some Okay If I get some tinsel I thought that would be lovely Behind you

And then I'm gonna just add a few bits on here But yeah, there's not much room in here Someone said to me today It looks like you're in a tent And I thought, fair enough I get it actually Pretty fair point really Yeah

It's not the biggest of spaces I'll tell you what I did think about though I did think about a couple of years time and how awful it is

when Joni will be grown up and all the toys would be gone but then I thought that would make a lovely pod room that middle room downstairs

where the pool table is swings and roundabouts and all that every cloud I mean I don't sound silly but it's yeah

Whatever, honestly. I mean, what a fault to have. I did. The last child has flown the nest. Not flown the nest, it's just that we won't need any of the shit in that room. Right. So then we could have it. But that won't happen anyway, because then Eliza will be moving in there.

So, it's irrelevant. What is that face? Hang on. That was a really funny face. Sort of a... Was it a kind of, I can't believe you're thinking about making downstairs a pod room? No, I was thinking, I fancy an interval. I thought you were going to say I fancy an Indian then.

No, a fancy little break. So I really enjoyed the Nat's Nieces episode. Yes. It was very good that today. I have to say a lot of people, I won't go into it because we're going to have another, I am, I'm going for it. People loved it so much in terms of just brightening up their Monday morning. And because we are a bit chaotic, loads of lovely messages from everybody.

saying, you know, really cheered up their sort of early morning Monday, doom. So, yeah, there's going to be one out next Monday as well. Okay. So I'm pleased you enjoyed it. I was interested about your view on the percentage of fat in beef mints. Yes. Because you said you're always buying, like, you know, fatty beef mints and you shouldn't buy the lean beef mints. No, you shouldn't.

right remember that book I read when I was on holiday mentioned several times on a podcast which was specifically around eating fat in food do you think you're the only person that's read it

that knows that no did you hear my podcast last year with Davinia Taylor at all yes you should eat fat yeah yeah and I didn't get it from the book

that you were reading in holiday when I was talking to you about it you weren't very you were sort of a bit like oh no I don't know about that and no? No.

Because I went on our WhatsApp chat and I searched for 5% yes when I wasn't as busy as normal at work

there's several shopping lists on our WhatsApp group with 5% beef mints 5% beef micks on the shopping list I agree with you

several this year which I think post dates your Divinia Taylor podcast yes but it depends what I'm making okay

I have to say that the 12% beef fat mince... Right. Came from... It was more in my mind after I did cooking with the stars and after I worked with Tony. Yeah. Purely because chefs were saying,

you've got to have fat, you've got to have fat to make it more flayy. Before you've revolutionised your cooking and culinary spread of... You know, the stuff that you make now post doing that cooking of the stars is just... phenomenal, isn't it? That lentil dahl that you're always knocking up

all those little tricks of the trade. Why don't you pop out in the freezer? There's one in there for you. There is one in there. I noticed that. And I looked at it. What I should do, actually,

is maybe do a nice bit of chicken and put a really nice sort of marinade on it and then we could have the lentil dahl with it. Yeah. We do that. Yeah. You can also maybe cook

some fresh ones? No? I can cook some fresh ones yes

I can yeah but the children don't really eat stuff like it at the

moment they've got all a bit fussy haven't they okay and my brain is filled

I have a lot of creative juices flowing within the brain at the moment right

which stopped me from what were you doing And what are you talking about? What was going on? Like in the last week.

Sorting out the WhatsApp group. For this? Right. Thinking about the live show. Thinking about 2026 and the year ahead. What is going on with that? Are you going to do... Obviously, we've already alluded to the potential dates in the future.

Yeah. What's the idea there you're going to be doing more... You're going to do the O2? I don't think we're quite there yet do you I don't know I think we need to build a little bit Okay It'd be nice one day wouldn't it

Not convinced that that's going to be No Do you know what though I had a good idea though Go on I could get someone like Ramesh on As a guest On the pod

Yes And then he's just Because he sells the O2 out Yeah So he could just sit on the chair And do his stand-up Yeah I've sold it out then

But it's life within that Featuring a special guest I like it I like it And what you could do When he comes and features On your pod For your live show

Maybe you could get up And have a chat for an hour To the audience You could just sit there Couldn't you And he could just get up And he could just get up and talk to them Just talk to him for a set

And then you could have another guest who's quite funny, maybe, I don't know, Rickard Jervais or someone like that, and they could do an hour afterwards. I reckon then you would get an audience at the O2. Possibly. That is a possibility. It's an idea, isn't it? It is an idea.

It is something to think about. If people would like to do that, like go to the O2 or go to a bigger venue, maybe not the O2 is ridiculous, but something a little bit bigger, make more of an event, then they just need to recommend one friend. Oh, that's true. If you can have one more listener from every listener that you've got, imagine that. It would be really good, wouldn't it? One recommendation.

But you say one recommendation, it can't just be a passing comment. They need to help their friend download it and follow it. But also. And then they need to keep listening to it. I got a tip off the other day for a thing on BBC Sounds and it would look really interesting. Brilliant. I went on BBC Sounds. I'm BBC Sounds.

I know we're not. We can talk about other things, though. Yeah, I can talk about whatever I like now. It's not quite a competition either. I don't think you've got to worry. It was BBC Sounds. It was loads of little radio Kent things, and they're about eight or nine minutes long.

Was it a train thing? No. And it's about the history of Kent. Oh, okay. And I found it on BBC Sounds. Yeah. And I listened to one, and I thought, oh, this is brilliant.

This is my journey back from Liverpool, sorted. And yeah, it's a bit annoying in all nine minutes long, you can just play them. I then pulled in, at a Lou break, came back on, and actually, because I hadn't subscribed to it, it's quite tricky to get back to the listings of them all. Yes.

So with your podcast, if a listener is good enough to recommend it to a friend, if you've got a friend who thinks, you think, oh, my friend might like listening to this. Yeah. If they actually subscribe to it, it doesn't cost anything, and it just means it's easy to reference. You've just done it again. You said that.

I'm just reiterating the point that it's really valuable to do the subscribe thing. It is really valuable to subscribe. I am listening to you. It is valuable. It is quite important. I don't think people realise the subscribing is really, really good. And it reminds you.

And actually... Well, it just comes up, doesn't it? If you turn your notifications on, and then it just pops up and you know you've got an episode. to listen to, which is really helpful. I mean, do you know what? If you really want to help us out,

and you know, you've got a friend, and a friend goes, do you know what? It wasn't really for me. You could just say to your friend, well, what you could do, keep subscribing to it, and then if you get bald, you know, hit play,

turn the volume down, put on Corey. It's doing us a favour. It doesn't cost anything, does it? I don't actually have to listen to it. Brilliant. You could just press play and turn the volume down. Oh, what a lovely advert.

Well, you know, I'm being honest. It might be a load of shit, but press play and turn the volume down. What an ad? Well, you know, every little helps. That's not our phrase. Get you and your crew to the big shows with Go Transit. Go connects to all the main concert venues like TD Coliseum and Hamilton and Scotia Bank Arena in Toronto. and Go makes it affordable with special e-ticket fares.

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No. I was at work and they said, If I was you, every time I got in, I just press play on the podcast. Just keep it rolling. Just put it on loop. So I just go back to episode one. Turn your phone on and leave it unlocked, just press play from the beginning. You know, how many devices have you got? No, obviously we wouldn't do that.

I've got to keep the advertisers happy, but it did make me laugh. Really? I thought it was quite funny. No, I get it. And there are plans. There are plans for easier ways for people to listen as well. In terms of... We want to get a website sorted.

Website's really important because some people don't have apps, some people aren't on social media. But a website is... In this day and age, people can usually do a website. But if you've got an Apple phone, you just go to podcasts on your phone.

No, I know, but some people haven't... They haven't got that. There's loads and loads of people. Really? Yes. I told you about the woman in the bookshop, didn't I? I don't remember. I wasn't listening again.

There was a lady who, it was really interesting. She was buying my book. And I was in the book shop, in the book nook. Which I must mention, because the book nook, Julia has given me a book. And guys, I've promised her to do a little post on Insta. But can I just say the book nook in Ware is a beautiful, tiny, independent bookshop.

And she asked me to do a little shout-out because they have the most beautiful personalised gift subscriptions for books. So I know that loads of companies do it and they'll just put, oh, do you like crime or do you like this? And they'll post her out a book every month. However, her service is personal. She'll call you or message you. You tell her what you like.

She really thinks about each book monthly. She wraps it all up really nicely. There's premium subscriptions with a sweet treat and stuff. And quite frankly, you've got to try and help. these small shops because they are struggling and it is really important and what a lovely personalised gift so please have a little look

remember just pop that up for me for um you know underneath the blurb we can put the book nook maybe the little website or something that'd be lovely but yeah have a little look it's a really really good idea so the lady in the booknook was a bit sort of taken aback because she was

buying the book had ordered the book picking it up and I was in there so I signed the book for a I can imagine that being a bit of a funny A bit weird, but she was very happy, and I signed it, I signed the book for her. And she said, oh, I'd like to listen to the pod, but I don't know how to. And she got out her Android phone. Yeah. No disrespect to it.

But got it out. And I said, I'll help you. Give it to me. And genuinely. Oh, yeah, I mean, that's a recipe. I couldn't do it. I said, have you got a Spotify? No.

Okay. Have you got a podcast sort of app? No. Do you have Amazon music? No. It was really, really difficult to do. I said to her, go on to www. Podfollow.com forward slash life with Nat,

which she could do. But again, it's not simple, is it? I believe there's a thing called podcast player on an Android phone. Okay, dokey. It says popular Android podcast. Apps include PocketCast, Pocket Addict and Spotify. Hmm. So there are other things you could.

Yeah, it was just quite difficult to do. Do you have the main one, I think? It's people not as O-Fay with technology and are new to podcast. Feel that there's going to be some kind of cost and hidden, and a hidden cost. I agree with you. People do panic about downloading stuff and think it's going to cost. I don't bloody blame them. Do you?

I mean, you want to pay for this. would you just be honest you really don't help me loads of pods are on Patreon and stuff like that I know where they do a monthly subscription and they might get a few more bonuses and stuff a bit more practice

and you might be able to do that you never know I've been ever going to do that have ones that I'm on I mean it is I do feel sorry for you people might pay to not have them on their own phone exactly

I could do the opposite couldn't I exactly yeah how would that work That would what work? If you pay $2.50 a month, you can be scraping the barrelless. Well, it doesn't really work as a concept, is it? No.

No. Well, no, actually, it would work. If everyone who listens to this, who's getting a bit fed up with it, sent us £2.50, if it added up to enough, then we would just stop doing them. I wouldn't. I would. be better than what I get two pounds

even if one person sent in two pound fifty I'm better off than normal aren't I you seem to have a little be in your bonnet I do

I'd be very very careful if I were used okay all right you wait till the old invoice comes in for setting up the cameras and the lights in here

eh yeah yeah oh we had a message about that genuinely right this is from Georgie Peace

The lighting looks so lovely I hope you don't mind me asking What lamps or bulbs did you use I'm currently rethinking lighting for my home And kids study space And your lighting here looks so clear Huge thank you in advance I'm an avid pod listener from the very beginning

Thank you Georgie That's nice Isn't it? Really nice It's nice for it to be noticed though, the hard work that you've put in It's the only thing that we should point out is the room isn't lit.

It's not like a lit room. It's been lit specifically for the shots. Yes. So it looks much better on camera than it does if you were... You wouldn't want to come in this room and think, oh, this is a nice light to read a book in. I would. It's like being in a hospital.

No, it isn't. I think it's really soft and really peaceful and quite calming with the colours. Okay. So maybe you could let her know where you've got the... the little colourful lights because perhaps she wants

to jazz it up a bit The little coloured lights are just on Amazon they're about 16 quid each Yeah Do we to look them up No You could pop up a little link

though couldn't you Where? On Insta I'll just text her I'll just If you were Do you know what Personal service

I'm going to reply I'm going to send you all the links What was the lady's name Georgie Georgie I will send you a message And I will tell you everything I've put in here

but what I mean is is yeah the coloured stuff you can do it's just lights on the floor that light the background but the main light that lights us sat at the table it's very close to us because of the shots

the shots have been lit so you can't really utilise that lamp in your house is what I'm saying it's not very nice is it it quite overbearing yeah I mean it's not exactly pretty

Sure, I just said that And you disagreed with me But funny evening tonight, isn't it? Disagreying. Agreeing, then disagreeing. I'm not sure. I mean, it's better than the lamp in the lounge That I've had for over 25 years

That doesn't go in there. I'd probably stick that one up Before having that one. I've got to do some shopping, darling. It's just finishing touches of things I need to do. You never finish anything. Never finish a room, ever. Ever.

I am going to, though. Next week, when I've got a day off, I'm going to take all of my pictures that I've got, bundles and bundles of little prints and pictures I've got, and I'm going to take them to the framing shop. As a Christmas present to myself, I'm going to get them all framed, and if you don't mind, we could start putting them up on the wall. Because you're very good at that.

As soon as I want something up, you're there. Bang. Done. But if I do that Could we Can we What are we laughing at now? No one's shoulders going

There they go What are we laughing at sweetheart You've lost me me. Nothing. It's quite warm in here. That's that lovely tea you've been drinking.

No, it's the heating on. It's too hot in here. It's not hot. It's perfect temperature in here now. It is. It really is. It is the perfect temperature. Please don't change it in here.

It's perfect. Do you know we've done 48 minutes? That equals about 10. By the time Emma's finished of it. That's not true, is it? No. darling i think we should sort of start finishing now what you're up to on the phone what we're doing what were you doing there just out of interest i was actually reading a message

from emma but we are still in sort of pod mode sorry yeah my concentration stuff i've had a long day to i know you have sweetheart i know and once again you've pulled it out the bag haven't you you've come up here with me and you've you've you've thought well help out again for no payment and you've helped me I'm a trooper aren't I you are a trooper could have gone and chilled out and watched a telly

for an hour you could I just feel so sorry for people that listen to this could be that could be the slogan I mean you really that literally could be please put that as a title

Emma yeah it's on it's on it's on it's on it's honest. I mean, why would you listen to this? It's me, just rip it, that's talking nonsense. No, it's about you and I and the love that we share

and our relationship and how it works. They're getting all serious now. But people love it. They enjoy seeing couples. They do. Anyway, I'm going to go now. I don't blame it

Can I go as well Or you're just going to leave me here I think we should both go Perfect With our heads held high I think it's time to say goodbye Did you practice that No

It was quite good wasn't it Quite prolific Prolific might be a little bit strong Right I would say it rhymed Yeah You will do those pictures for me next week though

Absolutely. When? At some one evening. If I get them down to the frame shop, I reckon it would take 10 days for them to do. Hang on. Do you know how many frames I've got in there? To like frame pictures? I couldn't care less, but I want stuff up. Right.

I've got a stuff in here that needs going up on the wall. Okay. But you know we can frame pictures up? Why are you going to take it to a frame of shop? No, I need to take it to the framing shop. Why? I thought you wanted different frames. I want different frames, different materials.

You've never been to the... You would really enjoy the frame shop. Not when I came to pay for everything, I wouldn't. No, but the framing shop is the man, it's lovely in there. Characters, they get all the borders out, all the frame. It's really old-fashioned and I love it. Right. And again, you're supporting local independent businesses.

Okay. So. Why don't you go buy some frames from, I don't know, the local frame shop? You can't buy them? Yes, you can. Where's the local frame shop, Mark? I've never been to it but I'm sure it's not that far away

good old Ted who makes the frames in his shed you know you'd be supporting his business his little cottage industry he's sitting there listening to this now thinking taking it to a frame shop

you just buy the frames for me and you can do it yourself lazy I've never seen a frame shop before you've never seen a frame shop no I've seen a few frames in a shop but never to the colours I want to my liking.

You see the lounge very quickly has brass, it has antique brass and it has gold. So the metals that I have put throughout the room need to be amalgamated on a wall to come together and it will link it all up. So therefore I want exact... What's the problem? Carry on.

I'll give up, I'm going No, I've got a really good suggestion What's that? And it'll save lots and lots and lots of messages Change radiators No Go to a boot fair And go and buy loads and loads of pictures At 50p each

With nice frames And you'll get the most random eclectic selection of frames Sorry You get the most random selection of frames Yeah, eclectic. Yeah. Ecclectic.

You're having to go at me for Algar, Rhythm. Hang on. Ecclectic, you Wally. Eccalectic. Ecclectic. Ecclectic. Ecclectic. Well done.

Ecclectic. Well done. Ecclectic. There you go. Ecclectic. Oh, eclectic. Yes. Ecclectic.

One all there. Yes. go to the boot fair. I don't want pictures on the wall that I'd mean nothing to me. No, you take the pictures out and then you get a nice eclectic selection of frames.

They're not going to fit my pictures. They'll all be different. No, but you buy a selection. They'll be like 50p a piece. You could go and buy 500 of them. But why do I want? 500 frames that aren't the right,

size for the pictures that I own? No, there would be the right size. No, they wouldn't. They would be. This is madness. You just need to get like... Eclectic. ...selection of different things, like different sizes.

All right. I'm going to go to the frame shop. I think that's going to be a very expensive... I could have got that. See, that could have been your Christmas present. Why have you not mentioned that? It's fine. You're going to have family members getting annoyed about this now.

No, I'm not. No, because that isn't, I just want to go and do that. It's my little treat to myself. How many pictures need to go up on the wall? Oh, I couldn't tell you. Have a guess. Well, there's room for more also, but so far... One, two, eight. Oh, that's all right. That eight.

I can handle that, that's right. All right. Right, I love you. Should we go and watch something now? Yeah. Well, I mean, it's quite late. It's five to ten, but we can get into bed and put something on. Mind you, I've got my book to finish.

I've got to do book club this weekend. Brilliant. So I must read my book. What a nice evening. Yeah, it has been a nice evening. I mean, that's sincerely. Anyway, I love you. I am really looking forward to the weekend,

and I'm pleased we're both at home. We can have a real pottering weekend of doing stuff, can we? I can clean out the shed. rabbits need doing as well see you everybody bye