Life with Nat - EP178: Tony talks #15 - Talking shit will never be replaced by AI

Episode Date: December 8, 2025

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Can you take a Bronco to where the map ends and adventure begins? Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right. Ready, set, Ford. Well, well, well, hello and welcome to Life with Nat on this wonderful Monday morning. I hope you've all had a fantastic weekend. We certainly have. Right, Tone? Hello, Nat.

You're right? Yeah, good. I always try and pretend that. it's Monday, but obviously we are recording this on a Wednesday. We are, yeah. And we haven't done our live Christmas show yet. No. So I'm saying we've had a great weekend, but I'm not sure we will.

I'll let you know on Sunday afternoon, I think. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah. Have you been enjoying them? I've really enjoyed them. Yeah. Yeah, really enjoyed them. If someone had said to me two years ago,

you're going to be sitting on the stage doing live shows with your sister, I'd laughed. But, yeah. Been good fun, haven't they? Yeah, really good fun. fun, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you do know how to tell a story? Well, you know, I just do what comes naturally and sometimes it's good and sometimes it's bad, so.

Well, there you go. I just hope there's more good than bad. I've had a couple of people saying, oh, brilliant, missed Tony Talks, because we haven't done one for ages. We haven't, no, it's been quite a while, so lovely to be sitting here in the upgraded studio. Very nice, isn't it? It's very nice, indeed. Do you like the old colours as well? Yes, I do.

I do, I love them. Yeah, I'm still waiting for my merch. I've done what's gone on now. Yes, that is true. Still waiting for me t-shirt and my sweatshirt. They should actually be along. I should follow it up. I think you should.

I will do. I will do. Yeah. As soon as you're the governor, I think you should put your foot down. Yeah, I will do. Definitely. Definitely. So what you've been up to?

Still working indoors? Yeah. Yeah, but getting there. And just really busy at work. Christmas coming up or... Everyone wants everything finished? Yeah, to some extent. I mean, yeah, well, certain people want certain things done by a certain time.

And we've got jobs where there's people putting loads of extras on right at the end of the job. And I haven't got 20 bloke sitting on the shelf to just pull off and do loads of extra work. I'll hear you what you need? What's that? Perhaps we could all club together and get you a few elf on the shelves. Well, yeah. naughty, aren't they, apparently. They could help during the night, maybe.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I think that could be even more problems, to be honest. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, it's all right, but it's always, it's always stressful this time with you. But the lives have been a nice, you know, been a nice distraction, really. Good. Excellent.

Nice distraction, yeah. Very, very good. Yeah, so. We've had a fantastic bit of news that I thought we must start with. Yeah. Because it puts everything into perspective as usual. My lovely. I've just got back.

from the Royal Malsden and my six tumours on my liver are shrinking. Stage four, I'm fighting as hard as I can, especially for my little girls who are five and nine. I know I featured in your last pod with Uncle Tony. Your brother, Tony, sorry. I don't know what I said Uncle Tony. I'm Tony. So I just thought I'd give you an update.

And that's my update. Happy news. I've just come back from the Royal Mileson. and my oncologist had tears in their eyes. I was crying. We hugged. It was a beautiful moment and it's the best way to finish the year. It's been such a hard year.

Emotionally, mentally, cancer really plays with you. But I've got Irish in me. I've got enough fighting me to keep going. I may have lost my breasts and a bit of my sanity and a lot of my strength through all the chemo and everything, treatment I've gone through. But I will never give up, hope. and I just hope this helps anyone else struggling or going through something,

just always have hope and faith that things will happen in the way they're supposed to happen and sometimes you have to be a bit uncomfortable beforehand. But sending everyone love and strength over Christmas and New Year, my daughter turns six on New Year's Eve, so it's the best news to end this year in 2025. Thank you again for your pod. your message on Instagram, just lots of love for you, lots of respect. You are amazing. I know I always say it, but you are, you've brightened my life. You don't know what you're doing

and helping, how much you're helping so many people like myself. So just keep it up for 2026. I can't wait to meet you on Sunday at the Grand. I'll be at all the live shows in 2026 as well. But just thank you from the bottom of my heart to you, Natalie, your family. just this podcast, everyone, the listeners, just all my love to everybody, and just, yeah, sending everybody love and prayers. Lovely Sarah, what fantastic news she's had. And yes, this will be going on Monday, and we would have met her. Yeah.

We're meeting her on Sunday, which would be fantastic. What an unbelievable woman. Just fantastic. Yeah, amazing, brilliant news. I don't even know what's so difficult to say. I don't even know what to say. It's amazing news, and she's obviously such a fighter. And the positivity that she brings.

I can't imagine it. I can't imagine. I can't imagine even getting up and being in a situation and be able to put one foot in front of the other. I mean, what just, she is an absolute superstar. Incredible. Honestly. I can't wait to meet her.

I know. I know. I cannot wait to meet her and say hello to her and give her a hug if, you know. I know. Great. Yeah. What an amazing person. Yeah.

Very, very special. and I've always said I don't care I think if you believe things I think the power of the mind is very, very strong yeah I think so well I certainly think staying positive is

because there's a different you know if you stay positive you're not giving up that's what boils down to and I think it's very easy to give up in life on lots and lots of stuff I mean this is extreme this is yeah you know her fighting for a family and her children and fighting this terrible disease

filthy disgusting disease that is doesn't care who you are and what you are how old you are how much money you've got doesn't matter but amazing absolutely amazing brilliant I saw that funnily enough talking about that I follow Richard Brack Hansen on Instagram and I always sort of look at what he's doing. You know, he's just amazing, entrepreneur. And I saw that his wife had passed. Yes, Joan, I think it is his wife.

And again, it just hits home. I know it sounds quite ridiculous, but it's just what you said. It doesn't matter who you are. No. Or how much money you've got. No. Your time's up when your time's up.

Exactly. And I don't know. It sort of upset me because I think two weeks before us or a photo of them cuddling, and it must have been quite sudden. You know, I know I'm a nosy bastard, but that's what Instagram is there for. Well, yes, yeah, yeah. I thought, bloody ill, two weeks ago, you were with her and celebrating somewhere. I know, I know, but I think it's also as you get older, it just becomes part of life.

I've got two good friends of mine who worked for me. I both suffer with my cancer now. I've got another guy that did some work for me a few years ago, just dropped dead last week. Oh, my goodness. It's just part of life. You get older, unfortunately. I know. It's not very nice, but...

It is what it is. But that is why, I know we always say it, but you do have to enjoy... Yeah. Enjoy your days. Yeah. Have some highlights. Try to, yeah.

You know, remember why you're here and how grateful you know. And I think when you see stories like that or messages like that, it does put everything into perspective. But I think also just the... Life just takes over, doesn't it? Yeah, it does, yeah. It just takes over. And within the next, you know, four days or whatever,

I'm going to be tearing my air out and being stressed and whatever. And really... None of it matters, really matters. It doesn't. It doesn't. You know, it really doesn't. No. But I think it's just human nature.

Yeah. And it's a rat race. Everything's quick, fast. That's right. Yeah, yeah. We all want what we need. Yeah, it's all about... Or want what we don't need sometimes as well.

Oh, absolutely. Talking of what we need and what we don't need. Any Christmas shopping, Dan, or... Oh, come on, you know me better than that. do any of that. Goodness me. No. I just nod and go, yes.

Yep. Yep. No, seriously, you know what it's like? Sharon's mum, at Christmas dinner, she might say to me, oh, thank you for the present. And I'll say, Sharon, what did we buy? I don't know. So my beautiful lady wife, I work right up until Christmas, and she, I'm afraid she does it, and she does it far better than I ever could.

Yeah. Because I'm clueless. No, she says to me at time, she says, oh, it's such and such a birthday, what should we do? What should we get him? And I say, what are you looking at me for? Yeah. You know, I would say, just put 50 quid in the card. That's my answer to everything. Just put some money in the card. Yeah.

And then she comes up some unbelievable idea and some brilliant present that's really original. And I said, what did you ask me for in the first place? Totally point this. I mean, Mark does that as well, I have to say, when he's really busy and I say, it's someone's birthday. Yeah. You know, I sold it all out. It's all right. You do all the jobs around the houses, don't you?

So there you go. You know, ying and yang. Yes, that's right. Yeah, ying and yang, yeah. What about Sharon, though? Well, you get a secret gift somehow. Well, what, we'll be careful because we're on here. Yeah, well, normally we'll go out in between Christmas and New Year.

Oh, that's right. And you have a day. So what we do is I'll try and, I always try and get something that she really want. Yes. I'm not a believer in buying a load of, oh crap just so that someone can open it on Christmas morning or whatever. So, yeah, we'll have a little trip out and we'll have some lunch and there'll be something that she really wants, hopefully, and that's what we'll do, yeah.

Fantastic. Which again, that's a little sort of tradition for us. Yeah. Like, she'll get me something, because I'm really easy to buy her for. She just goes into MNs and buys some tops or something, you know. Yes, yeah. That's what I like, socks and stuff and whatever, which I always need. Slippers is always a good one at Christmas, you know.

I always get a pair of slippers and stuff, so. So I'm really easy to buy for. You like your slippers, because you bring your slippers here. I do. I mean, I get cold feet. Even in summer I get cold feet. Yeah. So I'm all right tonight because we've got some nice carpet and stuff, so it's nice.

But I do struggle with sort of no footwear on. You're not the only one who comes around here in slippers. Jackie comes around in slippers, Mark's mum. And if Maria comes over, she will bring her slippers. Yes. So is my house cold? Should I be getting a hint? Well, I think what you could do

I think what you could do is if you could just dig the entire ground floor up and put some underfloor heating in that would be great it only cost you about 150 grand I'll do it for you next week Yeah I think it's a comfort thing for me

If I haven't got a pair of slippers on I just don't feel I can't explain it I won't wear socks with them because it aggravates me Yeah Because I've got socks and boots on all day Yeah

so I can't wait to get my feet out but then I don't like having them nothing on them so I'll wear no socks and slippers which then causes a little bit of a problem because you have to change your slippers a few times a year yeah fair do

especially if they're furry they do pen and ink a bit after a while so they're in the bin and I get a new pair or whatever but yeah I just I just yeah I'd like to have a pair of slippers on

on the complete opposite really what feet out Bare foot Yeah I know Very happy I've got my socks on tonight actually And I like barefoot I feel I'm at home

If I can have bare feet Yeah I know what you mean Yeah yeah In the summer I'll come home from work Sit in the garden And like this first thing Shoes and socks off

Before I do anything at all And then I will sometimes Just sit there with my feet On the patio Just because it feels like Getting some air to them You've just reminded me of something You know I did that documentary

For Channel 4 all about the gadgets. Yes. We did a mad thing all about barefoot trainers. Right, okay. And all these absolute mad people. It's about grounding, isn't it?

Grounding and earthing and whatever. Which I do get. I actually do understand having a walk around the garden barefoot in the summer. Exactly what you're saying. I think it's good. It is quite nice, yeah.

But there are people who don't... No good if you're treading the dog what the dog's done, though. No, that's true. You haven't got a dog obviously. We've got to be carefully in our gardener times. I mean, it does get cleaned up very, very quickly.

But she might have been out in the morning and I'll come in the, you know. You have to be careful. We get a lot of fox shit as well. Yeah, oh God, fucking terrible at the minute. Really terrible. We've got a fox. It must really hate us.

I don't know what we've done to it, but it literally shits anywhere where you want to be. Where the bins are, shit's there, shits on our doorstep. How's shat all in the vegetable beds? Oh, that's not... I ain't great, is it? It's not, but I'd rather not...

If it was in the vegetable beds, fine. I mean, I've come out to go to work. 11 in the morning or whatever and there's a great big fox turd right in the middle of the... Yeah, it's not nice, is it? No, if I had an air gun, I might have to... But I don't.

No. Sort of fire it in the air to get rid of... But they are... I don't know what... I don't know what... I don't know what they like where... What we've... Our house, I don't know.

Well, out here, now all the bins have changed. Yeah. So you've got the little food bins and... Yeah. You know, I don't really get it. Pointless. There's so many... different bins and different things.

And in the summer, I'm telling you, I'm sure the flies were because of that. Hundreds and hundreds more flies. Oh, yeah, definitely. Because of the food bins, the little bins. I'm absolutely certain of it. Definitely. I've got people now, they're now buying, I mean, I don't like waste disposals. I think they're terrible.

Yeah, I remember you saying. They smell and whatever else. And I don't think they chop the food up properly and they block drains. That's my opinion. All my customers now have in waste disposals because the food bin and naught is running alive with maggots. I mean, I don't mind a maggot. I go fishing, but running alive, I actually have some people saying to me,

I can't do this food bin, no matter what they do with it, the flies will get in there. And that's it then. And that's it. And you've just got maggots everywhere. So they're now going back to waste disposals, which we haven't done for years. Funny, isn't it? Yeah, but people are because they think, well, I'm not, I can put all that down the sink. Yeah.

Which I don't think really works, but anyway. Oh, well. I'm sure it blocks the drains up, but there you go. Have you had a lot of drain blockages from that? No, but I did have, it's really quite a good subject. I had a drain blockage this week. Right. Honestly, you've never seen anything like it.

It wasn't one of those fat things. No, it wasn't a fat bird. Right. It was, I obviously wouldn't say what customer it was. No, no, of course. Quite shallow drains on this job. And for the last probably six months, they've sort of been saying

the kitchen drains overflowing at the back of the house so everything runs from the back to the front of the house but I know when we did the drainage I know how we did it and put it in and it all connected to the front right so I know it definitely wasn't what we'd done so Monday morning I was all set to go and like I was going to wire the lighting on the job

for a kitchen I'm doing and I thought got to get this wiring done I still haven't done it now it's Wednesday still haven't done it so I've got a message to say over the weekend we've had some problems drains over flam we've got gurgling toilets when we flush this toilet

the sink upstairs gurgles and I thought I really don't like the sound of this anyway Monday morning in the pissing rain freezing cold me and Steve went round to the job we've lifted the first drain up outside which must have been a rainwater drain because sometimes in London

you have a surface water drain and you have a foul water drain sometimes it's combined it depends where you are. So we've managed to get that manhole up, which hasn't been up for years. That's clean as a whistle. Well, that's good.

Lifted the other one up. Oh, no. The whole, sorry, the whole manhole. So if you can imagine, the manhole is three foot by two foot. Yeah. And is four foot deep. Yeah.

It was up to the top with congealed waist. The whole thing was full up. With what, though, what waste? Shit. Oh, no. Yeah. Pooh. Oh, wow.

Food waste, obviously. But it just, you've never ever smelt seen anything like this. Oh, no, no. So we've put the, down, and then we've got our rods out. So. You've had to do that. Ridiculously, we've got our drain rods out, and we've tried to sort of, and it was not going anywhere. So anyway, thankfully.

I hope no one's eating their breakfast time. Well, sorry. I mean, it's just kind of. up. You asked about drain blockages. I've got a relevant, a very relevant, a very recent story. Um, so anyway, after phoning about four people that we had numbers for, no one could come. They found someone local in Enfield and this company came two hours. They took them to click, got rid of it. They got rid of it. They jetted it. They get jets up here. Shit clear limited. Yeah. That sort of, yeah.

Yeah. Poo be gone. Poo be gone. But I got a message later. They were very grateful that we've gone over and found what it was and this company got rid, like, done it, and it was all clear, sorted. So I was very glad that we did what we did. Oh, no, brilliant. Yeah, yeah. So, but, yeah, yeah, it was never seen anything like that.

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Santa gets cookies You get Rees Nothing else is Rees On another sort of building type note We had So sorry I can't remember the ladies' name because I don't respond. I get personal messages on Instagram,

but I don't respond to them because I've been told I mustn't. Yes. But after one of our live shows, a lady message, I could see the message, obviously, and I think she messaged you to say that she's got a problem with damp

and mildew, which comes up quite a lot. Yes, it does, yeah. So first of all, apologies to the lady if I can't, I'm not mentioning you by name because I can't remember. So just quickly go through the damp and mildew thing again. Yes.

Because it's relevant this time of year as well, Massively relevant. Yeah. So there's loads of reasons for it, potentially lots of reasons. There can be a leaky downpipe. There can be a leaking roof. There can be a coal bridge between the outside and the inside. There can be wallpaper or on the ceiling and the wall which catches condensation.

Yeah. There can be an old chimney that's been blocked up that is not ventilated. How about double glazing? No, not so much double glazing. The problem is what people do is they put in double glazing and they don't ventilate the room. So years ago, every bedroom, most bedrooms in most houses of a certain age, had vents in them. The whole reason was to make sure that you've got fresh air in there. So people shut the vents up, put double glazing in, and now you've got this hermetically sealed room.

So as soon as you get some moisture and you get some issues or whatever, then that can cause damp and whatever. But there are lots and lots and lots of causes. So my first thing to say to anyone that's got that is, number one, get a good fungicide or wash, spray it, kill the spores, get rid of it. Number two, buy a little dehumidifier. Yes, I remember you said that before. And interestingly, Wicks, I think Wix have just launched a dehumidifier. I think it's £99.

Right. So clearly they know there's a big issue with dam and condensation and mildew and all the rest of it. So number one is to obviously kill it. Number two is then to get a deumidifier and I promise you, it will make a difference. Yeah. Huge difference. And then longer term,

you need to speak to someone that knows about this stuff to see what you can do to solve the problem. Yeah, so it's not recurring. And that can mean more ventilation. It can mean moving to radiate or onto the wall to get some heat

and get some moisture moving about. It can mean stripping the walls of wallpaper, if you've got wallpaper. It might mean insulating the cavity. It might mean putting some insulated board on the inside. But like you say, it's such a lot, it's such a huge subject. It's a massive, massive subject.

So my advice to anyone that's got a problem is kill the spores first, then get a dehumidifier. And it will help. And it will definitely help. Even if it's now for over Christmas and stuff, if you're worrying about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you can get someone in. Yeah, I've seen, I've seen it, and it's amazing what they do. You put, like, I said before my in-laws.

Yes. One of their bedrooms, it looks like it's been raining in there. Mm-hmm. As soon as they put the deumidifier on, it's all gone. That's brilliant. That is very good. And they still use it. still use it now. They use it

not all the time because their house is a particular construction, solid walls yeah, a lot of cold bridging, so you've got warm inside, cold outside, you haven't got any cavity insulation so the temperature on the inside is too cold and you get condensation forming then add into that some

lining paper or wallpaper so the condensation forms behind the wallpaper then you get mold growth etc etc etc you know. We've got a message here from Lottie Charlotte Hoffman Question for Tony

I live in a house that's about 15 years old In my bedroom I have a dormer window I think this is the same sort of thing I've noticed sort of watermarks coming through on the wall in the bedroom underneath the window frame

but a little way away from it I've poked my head out and I can't see any loose tiles but there is a lot of mossy stuff on the roof there are eaves under the window inside and the watermarks are on the bedroom side of this little cubby hole under the eaves there is no sign of water

inside the cubby hole directly under the window can I paint over the water marks do I need to prepare the area of something should I be panicking I am a bit of a drama queen really is the window going to fall out it is miles away from the window to be fair

okay so well number one window's probably not going to fall out unless you've got a situation where the whole lot's completely rotten and it's It's structurally unsafe. So it's very, very, very unlikely. Number two, yes, you can paint over the marks. You can use a stain block, first of all.

So you would have to use a proprietary stain block. Zins of bin, one, two, three, polished cell do one, a spray. Dulux do them. So there's loads of stain blocks. You can go on Amazon or go to a, you know, B&Q, whatever. There's lots of stain blocks. So you put the stain block on first, then you paint over it, and it will hold back the stain.

The problem that she's got is that clearly there is some water getting in. Yes. And that can be quite difficult, can be quite difficult, to find out what's going on. So it doesn't necessarily mean a rooftop. It can be, you might have the actual roof above, could be leaking. You can have some problems around the window. Just because water's coming in around the window doesn't mean you're going to get marks where it comes in. Because Walter will find its way wherever.

Wherever. Where it wants to go. Yes. So it might be that it comes in in a certain place. It trickles down and then settles on a nogging or something. settles on a bit of timber, starts to come through. So, number one, don't worry about the window falling out. Number two, yes, you can paint it with a stain block

and some normal paint to get rid of the thing. But there is an issue. So if it's 15 years, I don't know what the dormer roofs made of, might be felt, might be fibreglass, probably not rubber, because that's probably a bit old for sort of rubber. All flat roofs have got a lifespan. You know, most felts are 20 to 20. But if you've got a split and Walter's getting under it, that can be an issue.

It could be soakers around the window. It could be bad window detail. There's loads and loads and loads and loads of reasons why it could be. But what she needs to do is probably in the new year or in the spring is get someone to put a little scaffold up and then get up there and have a proper look at it. Very good. And then you should be able to diagnose what the problem is. Rather than painting all over it and just waiting for it.

Yeah, or like getting up on a ladder. I mean, initially, you can get a local roof or builder to try and get a ladder up there and have a look. Yeah. And if it's very obvious, great. If it's very obvious, you'll be able to see it. But sometimes it's not very obvious. So you might need a little scaffold to get up there

to have a proper route around, have a look around, and see if there's a reason why stuff's coming in. As ever, find a good local guy. Make sure they're recommended. Make sure it's someone that you know you can trust because that's another story, which is another complete podcast, to be quite honest. with you about

Trusting people? Oh, I don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's one for another time. We do that in the new year. Yeah, definitely. For sure. Yeah.

Hi, Nat. First time messaging here as I saw you're doing a pod with Tony. I'd love advice on the best way to put up outside Christmas lights. Yep. Love looking at everyone else's and I mention it to my husband every year and it all looks too painful. Surely I can do it myself, girl power and all. Love the pod, brightens my day from Rachel.

So thank you for messaging for the first time. Before we start this, I have to say, Mark was out Saturday, did a grand job. Yeah, it was fabulous. He's done really, really well, pouring rain, as you said, freezing cold, got out there, did all the lights for the gate. Yeah, beautiful. The house looks amazing. So I don't know, I couldn't do it.

So good luck, Rachel. What would you do? So what I would do is if you're not used to getting up ladders, I wouldn't even attempt it. Okay. It's unbelievably dangerous. Right. You know what I mean? If you've got a bungalow or you've got a single-storey property and gutter level is at seven foot, you could, if you feel comfortable to get up a decent step ladder.

Yes. And put some lights up. Yeah. That's fine. If you've got a traditional two-story property, you know, ground on the first floor, if you're no good up ladders, if you've never done it before, absolutely don't even go there. So if you're going to do some lights and some decorations, do it at ground level, make sure that you've got stuff that's the right stuff. So it's got to be IP rated. It's got to be external.

It should really be off of an RCD or RCBO, which is an electrical safety device. So if it develops a fault, it's not going to kill you. You can get plug-in ones if it comes to it. What I would say to Rachel is, fine, have a go. Like if you've got a tree in the garden or a bush in the garden, you know, run a lead from wherever, make sure it's protected properly. and put some stuff on your trees or put some stuff on your bushes. But if you're not used to getting up ladders, honestly, forget it.

Super dangerous. I don't even want to get up ladders. The other thing I'd say to Rachel, from a lady's point of view, that wouldn't be able to do it, if you have window seals, you can really pretty up the outside of your house by putting things in the windows. Yes.

Some little light up trees. Or just battery-operated fairy lights around the windows. Around the window, yeah. So you're not worrying about outside waterproof stuff, You know, you can just get some string lights. Or you can just get, exactly, or you can just, if you've got a nice entrance, you know, where your front door is, you can get a couple of nice little battery operated trees or USBs where you can plug them in and charge them up each day and put them out there each night.

Yeah, a nice reef, you know, you can pretty things up. You can, but I think what Rachel was talking about is, is proper. Where you see, you know, at gutter level, you've got all the lights hanging down and whatever. Yeah. And as I say, don't even think about it. You need to be pro. Yeah, don't you. You need to be...

Else has just done hers. Yeah. You know, but got someone in to... Got someone in to do it, exactly, yeah, and that's a completely different kettle of fish. You're talking about paying people to do it, which is... Yeah, again, it's out of most people's read. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Hope that helps you, Rachel.

Yeah. I'm pleased with mine, ours all sort of dangly round. I'll put a little picture up at some point of some of them, and the door's done, as everybody has commented. Thank you for that. So, yeah, the trees are up, everything's sparkling. We're not having a tree this year. You've decided? We're in such up evil that we haven't got room for a Christmas tree.

Wow. Yeah. This is big news. But what we're going to do is we've got a beautiful, I think it's a rhododendron bush. Yes. On our patio. And it's been cut, it's grown and cut over the years.

It looks a bit like a mushroom. Yes. But it's really big and dense and beautiful. And it's evergreen. I don't know if it's rhododendron. There's big pink flowers on it. one for a couple of weeks. I can't think of the name.

It begins with the C, but I can't remember. It could be, yeah, I don't know. But anyway, I know, yes. So there's this big, we've got this big green. So what we're going to do instead is we've just bought some IP rated external festoon lighting, which I'm going to rig up probably next weekend. Yeah. And we're going to put the festoon lighting in it.

And then we've got some big bulb balls. Oh, and we're going to get some candy canes. Oh, that's really nice. Excuse me, I've got a bit of a cough, and that's going to be our Christmas tree. So we're going to light the bush. I really like that. And I will, I'll see if I'm allowed, but I'd like to put it on our Instagram or my Instagram so people can see it because I'll be quite honest, the kitchen's not going to be finished.

The house is still in a bit of turmoil. Yeah, yeah. And we just haven't, yeah, we just haven't got the room to do our normal Christmas tree thing because, you know, I've still got boxes and taps and things. things in the living room and whatever. But that is what happens when you're decorating. It's hard, isn't it? When you do quite a major renovation or whatever.

Oh, that sounds really lovely though. So we're going to give it a go and see what it looks like. Yeah, so I will, I think we will put it on Instagram so people can see why it's not bar humbug at all. No, no, it's, but we're going to be a bit inventive. Thinking outside the box. Yeah, we're going to be a bit inventive this year, yeah. I like it. Yeah.

Very, very good. It wasn't my idea. Trust me. It wasn't my idea. It's a brilliant idea, but it wasn't mine. You can guess who it was. I think it'll be very good. Yeah.

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Okay. And you gave Lisa some advice probably ages ago but she sent a message saying I just wanted to let you and Tony know we decided changing the conservatory to an extension with wet room. Going well so far.

Thanks to Tony for the advice. Excited for it to be finished now. Loved love. Oh I think that was, she wanted some advice about putting a solid roof or normal roof on a conservatory. That was what it was. Oh, brilliant.

Look at that. And that's where it's coming to. Amazing. So, that's great. Nice to see. Yeah, and I've done a little bit of research. There's a company that, where you could, they could, basically, they designed and

build solid, like proper roofs of conservatories, but you put it in yourself, basically. Yeah, yeah, that's it. That's it. You measure it, and they send you a kit. Yeah, I wonder if she's done that. But, yeah, anyway. Well, whatever. She said thank you.

Yeah, that's nice. That's good. Nice to see a little job coming along, isn't it. It is. And it's good to see that they're getting what they want without ever to knock it down to start again. Absolutely. Because it's so expensive.

Yeah. So they're really making, repurposing what they've got, which is brilliant. Yeah. Something I wanted to talk to you about, which I think is very important. Go on. I feel quite passionate about it. Okay, I like it. I like a bit of passion.

A little bit of passion. Ooh, get in there. Laura. Yes. Our friend and delivery driver. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. We all moan. Right, I'm going to just have a chat for a minute.

We all moan. I have moaned and moaned about getting home and there's a parcel that's been thrown over the gate in the rain. and you think I cannot believe it they're so lazy why haven't they come in and put it on the porch or just you know you always get these parcels

that are chucked or thrown and I think it's a bugbear of all of ours It is if it's six new crystal glasses It is I've had a small television chucks over a wall before I'm not saying it's right but what I want us to do

at this time of year is to try and have a little bit of patience with delivery drivers let's just try I know if something breaks and it's been left out in the wet, I know you're going to be pissed off about it. But Laura has sent me a little parcel update. This time last year, she was averaging around 280 to 300 a day.

Right, okay. On two rounds. July, she decided to drop a round. Yes. To have a little rest. I remember she's, yeah, yeah. In one round now, she is still averaging. 220 to 250 parcels a day in one round.

Yes. It just shows you how much everybody is ordering online. We all want it so quick, don't we, and fast, and what have you? But 250 parcels in one round, which I would imagine is, I don't know, what do you reckon? Seven hours, eight hours, I don't know. Yeah, probably something like that. I don't know. Yeah, no, it will be eight or nine hours probably.

It's ridiculous. Yeah, it is. And that's what people are expected to do. So, of course, they're going to be chucking them out of their windows. Yeah, I know. You don't agree with me, do you? I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying...

No, I don't. I agree that... There's a sense behind it. Look, let's be honest. The man that drives this is earning a billion pounds a minute or whatever it is, right? That's what it boils down to. Yeah. Whatever stupid figure...

as it is. I read somewhere the other day. It's astonishing. This bloke is going to take over the world probably. It'll be the world's first trillion now. Yes, yeah. But I cannot equate that with the people in his warehouses are not allowed to go to the toilet. Or you hear this stuff. I don't know how true it is. No, that's right. We don't know how true it is. But you hear these stories. And I also know people that do this for a living. Yes. And they literally, they have got to earn any.

money, they've got to do volume. Yes. They can't be wandering up people's paths, having a chat and doing 10 a day, because there's about a pound. Yeah. Or whatever it is. Yeah. So again, there has to be a balance somewhere where the people doing the delivering

are getting a fair day's money for a fair day's work. Correct. And not getting to the point where they've got to chuck your telly over the garden wall, because they can't possibly knock on the door or whatever. They haven't got time to. Yeah. For me it just seems arse about face really Is that the whole means of getting that to you

Is for a person in a van Yeah And the fact that they have to do So many at such volume just to earn a living Can't be right No, I completely agree So anyway, I just When you are moaning and groaning

Because we will Yeah but now We will moaning the other way now Because the high street's finished and whatever Oh don't say that Look, sorry. I know, but there's a little bit, you know, a few independent shots. I'm not saying that.

Oh, I'm so sorry. Before we go, because it'll only go out of my head. Because there's a thousand things in the brain. Really? I've never guessed. Well, go on, get it out quick. Quick. The book nook in where, gorgeous Julia, who runs it.

She won't mind. I went in there because she sold my book and I did some signings and I did a little event with her. And, you know, I saw Helen from plumbing in where. And, you know, I had a chat with Julia And I went in and she said, I don't know If we don't do well Christmas, I think that'd be it

Yeah. For the bookshop. So I'm going to tell you all that Julia does a fantastic, bespoke, really crafted book subscription gift. Right. So I know other people do it, but they'll just give you a monthly book or what have you.

Julia will get in touch with you. Have a chat. What does the person like, etc.? wraps them all up in brown paper, posts them with a note, a really lovely subscription gift. And it's the book nook in wear.

And if you want to get someone, something really special, they're into their reading, please have a little look at her gift. But that's just, listen, that whole conversation just makes me so angry. I know.

Because there's clearly someone that's got a lovely business is passionate about what she does. And literally, she's hanging by a thread at the minute. And if Christmas isn't, any good, that's it, the door's shut. Awful.

But I'm part of the problem. Sorry, I'm part of the problem because I wouldn't drive to where. Sorry, I go on Amazon and go, I want that, oh, I can get it tomorrow for free. Sorry. I know, I know. But if you create those conditions,

then people are going to use it. I do it. I do it as well. Sorry. It's so true. But I have started going to a few more independent shops. Not all the time, but I do, but, you know, I'm not going to buy a few little presents, and let's go and see those independent shops in where, which is the nearest town,

and I will do that. And it's important to do that. Yeah. It just makes me so, hang. I don't know what the, there is no answer to it because, you know. It's life again, fast-paced. I haven't got time. When have you got time to drive to an independent shop during the week?

I haven't. You haven't? I haven't. But that's life for you again. It's not finish your work at 5 and hang in your coat, up with your broly, go, no, that's right, yeah. You know.

Go to the pub for a pine. No, it just doesn't happen. It isn't like that anymore. So it's, it's, like you say, it's just a circle of it. I mean, I'm afraid as well, you know, whether you like it or not, it's going to happen. There won't be any deliverer drivers in the future. It'll be robots, it'll be drones. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

That's going to be, that's going. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Because as soon as they, as soon as they master the, you know, the drone thing where it's licensed and, you know, they're not going to crash into each other and kill people and set fire things. that will, without a doubt, that's coming. Yeah, sure.

Anyway, that's a... Well, there you go. Never, yeah, everything. Things might be delivered on time, though. They might be, yeah. And they might not be broken. They might not be. So, they might not be.

Every cloud. One could crash through your roof and cause 20 grand's worth of damage, couldn't it, so? Straight through the front porch. Yeah, great. Great for me. Oh, there you go. Hello, yeah. Every cloud.

Oh, another, another drone crash. What they done? Oh, straight through your... Oh, that's a shame. Straight through your patio doors. I'll be there tomorrow. a morning, see you later. What do you mean they've come through the bath and window and smash your new shower

of pieces? Oh right, okay. Yeah, that'll be 15 grand. Is that all right? Yeah, I'll see you's Tuesday. Brilliant. It's great. Every cloud?

Yeah. Listen, anyone out there, if they don't know what their kids are going to do and whatever else, just get them to get a trade because it's the only thing that's not going to be affected by it. I can tell you that now. Oh, don't. Very good. Or normal chat.

Random shit like this. What's that? Won't be able to do this. say I? Oh, I'm sure they will. Nah. Yes. Yeah, there's some,

someone have come up with something where they, they can copy out voices and then put into their thing, do some random chat. Well, no, you say that. You say that. There was a, um, it's a, Mark Wogan. Terry's son. Yes. I'm sure he does a pod.

I think I was asked to do it, but it was too busy. But he does a pod. No, it isn't. Oh, I'm going mad. Everyone would be screaming there. screaming at their phone or wherever you listen, Parkinson. Oh, right.

It was one of the big chat show people, won't go to Parkinson, and their son, it's an AI thing. People are being interviewed. But it's not them. But it's not them. That's bollock, sorry. Yeah.

What are you going to do? Tape to people's personalities away now. It was quite a topic of conversation. Yeah, it was, yeah. Anyway, talking about listening to pods and stuff. Yes. Can I show you my little thing that I brought along.

Yeah, all right. What is it? Is that right? Yeah. What we've got? So, what we've got is I've had one of these, right, for about a year. Okay. And it's called a Digifunk site radio.

Okay, do you. Right? And I thought I'd just bring it on because it's not just a site radio. I'm so happy with it. Right? I'm so happy. I tell everyone in the world about it. Okay.

And the reason why is this. Can I just say we're not. getting paid for an advert. No, no, no, we're not getting paid. It's almost like a Truman show. You know when they have to do the advert with the series. Oh, sorry, no, no, I'm not getting paid for it. They don't even know I'm doing it. Well, that's what I'm saying, because we need a few of these, don't we now. Hopefully. If I find a product, the reason I'm, sorry, the reason I bought it on is, it's marketed as a site radio, but it's not just a site radio. Yes. And the reason I'm saying that is, is that, number one, it's waterproof. Yeah. Number two, it's rechargeable.

but when I say rechargeable this will last me up to three days on one charge and you have it on all day long from 8 in the morning until 5 at night and what I love about it is is that unlike other sort of building site rados that need to be plugged in

if I'm like I might be second fixing electric so I'm going from room to room for doing sockets I stick it in my bucket yeah and I walk round with it yeah right so not only is it rechargeable waterproof shopproof It also does FM, which you don't really listen to, DAB, but it streams music as well via Bluetooth.

So what I'll do is I'll listen to Rossi and Ken, Bruce, in the morning. Yeah. Yeah? And then I might listen to a bit of Kate or in the afternoon, I think I need a bit of pink floor, a bit of simple minds, or fancy, a bit of whatever, yeah, to sort of change the mood. Bluetooth it's at this off my phone, and I've got my music. And the reason why I'm bringing it up is, is that it's not just a site radio.

So you could use it, for instance, you could, in your potting shed, in your shed, in your conservatory. Over the park. Over the park at the beach, if you're outside in the summer, and you want a little bit of music and you don't want to just listen to the radio. It's, honestly, it's 6999. Brilliant. Right? And it is, I've had it, I think I've had it, a year or 15 months, and it's absolutely brilliant.

It's a great bit of kit, and it isn't just a building site radio. It's for anyone that wants to listen to the radio Because Eliza's got a little I think it's JBL but they're pink They're quite cool Yeah

But I don't think that's the radio as well No I think it's a Bluetooth speaker Yeah So that you can have your radio as well So I like that Before I bought this I bought a little Bluetooth speaker

Only 25 quid Brilliant Really you charge it up And you can play your music But with this You get the whole lot So you can listen to your radio You can listen to your podcast

You can listen to your music But it is really really portable. Well, you're making me want one. Yeah, honestly. And so, friends, as if someone wanted a DAB radio, rather than paying 100 quid for one of them ones you've got to plug in or whatever,

give one of these a try, they're brilliant. And in the summer, you know, people that are gardening, you've got your little bucket and you're going around doing your gardening or whatever, or you're down your greenhouse, tend to your tomatoes, charge this little baby up. Yeah. Probably last year, you know, if you listen to it two or three hours a day,

it lasts your week. Brilliant. So, yeah, that's my tip for the day. Tony's tip for the day, that is. I like that a lot. Very, very good. Have I got any tips for the week? I'm trying to think.

No, not particularly. Get ahead with things is what I would say for your week this week. Are you, I know, hasn't been overly Christmassy today, but it ain't got, you know, we've got lots of Christmas, Christmas overload, and we did a Christmas show yesterday. So there you go. I'm just giving everyone a rest. But this week now, we're stepping into the realms of me.

mid-December by the end of the week. Well, it's prep, isn't it? It's being organised. Lists. A little list. Yeah, organised lists. Yeah, and making sure as well you get up and you're productive. Yes.

Got to be productive this time of year. It's very true. And it's hard. It is hard. Dark, cold. That's right. It's hard. Easy, easy to get a cup of tea and a biscuit and watch loose women.

It is, but I find when I'm flagging a bit, like it might be sort of, I'll pass two, three o'clock and I'm tired. and I've been on a scaffold the last two days in the freezing cold or last week, whatever, you know. Or last week, whatever. I just think to myself, stop being a lazy bastard and get on with it. That's it. Don't be lazy, just get on with it.

Not, I am lazy. No, but you give yourself a talking to. Yeah. Give yourself a talking to. Don't be lazy. Don't be stupid. Get on with it. I think you're right.

I've done it a couple of times. And for me, it isn't sort of not wanting to do it. Flapping. Yeah. I've got that to do, that to do that. Yeah. Just calm down, shut up. Prioritise.

Prioritise. Easiest thing, or whatever, the most important thing first. Yeah. Don't panic. That's another thing. When things go wrong, whatever, just don't panic. Deep breath. Rationalise it.

What can I do? What's the easiest thing I can do? How can I make it better? Yeah. What can I do immediately to stop the problem or to, you know? Yes. Yeah, you're right. So there you go, everyone.

A bit of preparation. Yeah. Don't be a lazy. bastard and prioritise. Correct. We'll see you really, really soon. Have a brilliant, brilliant week. Thanks, Tone. It's been a pleasure.

Brilliant. Can't wait to see you again. Yeah, thank you. Before Christmas. We get a Christmas one in. Nostalgia, presents. What you watched at Christmas. We won't do it now. We won't do it now. Oh, I've got some caucus. All right, a couple of weeks' time. Lovely. You're in.

Love you all. 07-8, 2019-19. Hope you've enjoyed today with me and Tony. Have a lovely week, as I said. And I'll speak to you on Thursday. Tadda. All right. Thank you.