Life with Nat - EP194: Nagging with Auntie Linny #20 - Fashion at all ages
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Hello and welcome to Life with Nat.
I hope everybody is fantastic and having a super duper week.
I've got a treat for you.
I'm with Auntie Linney.
Hello.
Hello.
Hello.
Hello.
I'm here.
How we diddling?
All right.
Diddling.
Didling's the right word because we are now approaching the end of January.
No.
I'm going to have to intervene.
Yes.
Because as you know, I listen to the pod.
Yes.
Unlike some of your colleagues.
It's not that bad January.
I've found it awful.
I know.
I've heard.
Awful.
But I think that's because I haven't been busy.
Maybe.
You are.
Getting up in the morning.
Yeah.
Going to work.
Go, go, go, go.
Walking.
Working.
Kids.
Pods.
Going out.
Busy, busy.
Yeah.
I don't.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's the light and the dark.
But it's getting lighter.
It is.
Because at work that's quite noticeable when we get to 4 o'clock and it's still light.
So that's nice.
I get that.
But I quite like sometimes that, it's like, you know, late afternoon at work and it's all dark and cozy.
Yeah, I must be strange.
And also, what's funny about you saying all that is you are such a lover of the summer and the sun.
Yeah.
So it's nice.
And I don't think I suffer from the old sad.
sad, where the sun deficiency, light deficiency, which I get is a thing.
Yeah. I'm not so sure I'd suffer from that so much. I just find January for me is a month
that I can just do stuff that you might not have time to do later on in the year because
life gets so busy or because the sun is out and I don't want to be indoors doing X, Y, Z,
I don't want to be in my garden or out with the kids or whatever. I don't mind it. And I've like
really utilised it well.
I've got so many birthdays.
I've caught up with like getting Christmas birthday cards.
Mention that word.
That's a swear word.
Birthday cards, birthday presents.
Yeah.
Yeah, I've been listening to you.
And I can see you just don't like,
and there's so many people that just don't like it.
No, no.
But, as you say, we are getting over it.
Yeah.
And as I said, Monday with Tony,
yeah.
Also, there is a thing of not wishing life away,
wishing the days away, you've got to kind of make the most of all of it.
So, yeah, each month needs to have a purpose in your life and utilise it for that purpose.
And I've been going slow and looking after myself.
Good.
And I think that's a good thing.
Yeah.
Been going to the gym, been swimming, which I feel great.
Amazing.
You just make better choices when you're exercising.
Yeah.
Food.
Yeah.
drink.
Yeah.
It just does all roll together.
I know we all know this and it's really boring.
It's not boring.
It's...
It is true.
If I go swimming or have a little steam.
What do you feel then that you don't want to go home and have a drink and stuff your face
because you're getting your fit and feel energised?
Because I feel good.
Or today, I stink by the way.
Sorry about that.
I wondered what that's now.
No, it is bad.
No, I was going to jump in shower, but I'll do it later.
But today, Joni had a little club.
and I used all the weights, but even using weights again is so important for women, I feel.
But you feel stronger, you feel just not as sort of slouchy.
Very good.
Yeah, I need to get some of those wrist weights.
So when I'm walking, I'm exercising my arms because where I've lost a little bit of weight,
I'm not quite liking the look of the saggy arms and top of my legs.
It's a weird thing.
I might have something that can help you.
Oh, yeah.
Sounds ominous, guys.
No, a lovely lady.
I'll post the business.
Again, it's a small business.
Oh, right.
Did you see?
There's boxes.
Oh, so you dad.
Yeah.
It's business and it's kettlebells.
Oh.
And I think they're really beautiful.
Unopened, as you know, at the moment.
I promise I'm going to tag the business and send a little photo for the listeners to see.
Right.
But we'll have, we'll crack them open before you go.
And there might be one suitable for you.
and you can do some exercises for your arms with them.
You only need to go online.
Do you know what I mean?
You only need some kettlebell arm exercises.
Right, yeah.
And then you've got a little weight.
I don't know if you've got any weights at home.
So it might do...
I might have Dom's old ones.
No, but I've heard you can buy the ones
that you can literally put them on your wrist.
Yeah.
And then when you're walking, it's helping.
It's just giving you a bit of, yeah.
I just feel like for me, my arms and, yeah.
You can wear the old, um...
What's that?
Oh, yeah.
Backpack.
Sorry?
People wear sort of weighted rucksacks, don't they?
Oh, right.
And it's called rucking, I think.
Oh, I'm going to get annihilated.
It's not going to rucking, is it?
Having a ruck.
It must be with my mum.
I've had a ruck today.
No, they do.
It's a weighted rucksack.
0-7-8-2019-19.
One of you will do it.
One of you'll be doing it.
She's rucking mad, she is.
That's a Giuseppe joke, sorry.
Honest.
Anyway, but you say weights on your arms, but a little kettlebell might do it.
Yeah.
Might do it.
Yeah.
And again, month of January, you just see so many people running, walking, walking the dog, just walking their friends, their partners.
It all fizzles out by the end of February.
Yeah, not for me.
No, and I'm going to keep going to keep going as well.
No, do it.
It's good.
And listen, obviously at the moment, you've clearly got a bit of time on your hands, which is lovely.
You don't make the most of it.
Absolutely.
Just absorb, you know, do as much as you can.
And then don't beat yourself up later on in the year.
If you can't be there all the time.
No, that's all about balance.
That's the trouble, I guess.
Not trouble.
But I guess that's the thing with you.
It can be all or nothing.
So I can never ever, for instance, have something I do every week at 7 o'clock.
Yeah.
I have no...
A lot of these things are habitual.
Once you start something and it's habitual, like you're walking.
Or whatever anyone does, when it's Tuesday at 10am, da-da-da, you do stick to it.
And for me, it's about having the self-motivation.
It's hard.
Like, I have to...
Like, Tina, I have to say, Tina, I can't walk from it.
day because it's earlier's birthday and she can see it's paining me more than it's
spaining him because as you say it's part of your routine yeah Wednesday night I went to
see a friend who's had a baby lawn lovely lions had lovely little baby girl again couldn't walk
because I wanted to go and visit the baby and have baby cuddles so yeah and you don't want to
get out of the routine do you because it becomes and it doesn't take long no it's so easy
but we're repeating ourselves because we've said this on so many of our podcasts.
I know, but people do need to hear it.
It is, they love it.
Yeah.
I've got a lovely message for you.
Oh, nice.
We've got lots of lovely messages.
So thank you so much.
Everyone on Facebook, everyone on Instagram, all the voice notes, the messages.
Can't thank you enough as ever.
Here we go.
Hi, Nat, Donna from Eastbourne here.
Thank you so much for playing my voice note on the Nat's Neesis podcast.
It made my day.
This is actually a little message for Linney,
just to say thank you very much.
You have motivated me to finally sort out my wardrobe.
I've got everything out today, cleaned it all,
pile for the charity shop,
because I can't really be bothered to do Vinted.
Little pile for bin, which is so old,
can't give it away.
Pile for the husband to look through.
Yeah, and it feels great.
Took some stuff off the top,
dusted that, load of stuff again,
I can give to charity.
books that we haven't looked at in ages. And then I even went and did my cutlery draw. So thank you.
You have given me motivation for getting some stuff finally cleared out. Thanks a lot then guys.
Bye. Love it, love it, love it. But look, you can see she's so proud of herself. And again,
she's spreading the load. Some's gone to charity. Some she might keep hold back for car booting.
And you're decluttering your home. Interestingly,
Now that we're on this subject, you know I've been doing wardrobes out
and still doing wardrobes out.
Yeah.
And your brother's doing his bit, which is selling on Vintid, giving some to charity.
But I've got, near where I work in Matalai, and they used to have like a close.
I know it will.
It's gone.
It's only blimming gone.
I've driven around there with a bootful of...
Mind you, I have to say, I've been up there before with four bin back to work.
You get about 40p.
You're not doing it for the money.
You're just getting rid of it, aren't you?
You're getting rid of it.
It's hands.
and it's going to a good cause.
But they've gone, which is annoying,
because I did Google it and they're still online.
But the council, Broxbourne Council,
and I'm sure other councils must do this.
I don't know if you've heard of it.
I've gone online and they do a similar thing.
They do a pickup.
It's brilliant.
So I've put a load of stuff.
I did actually, it did give me time
to then recycle what I was giving to the closed bank in Matta Land.
And I thought, do you know what?
I'm going to hold back some of the land.
pieces because I will do a car boot.
I love a car boot.
I thought I'm going to hold back some pieces that I know we'll go at the car boot.
And everything else has gone in black sacks on my doorstep.
Book it on online.
No, Natalie, it's so easy.
Book a slot online and the slot can be nine to one.
Is it only clothes?
No.
Board games?
Loads of stuff.
Toys.
And I thought Friday I'm going to come home from work.
It's all going to be still up.
No.
Wow.
So guys,
There's a little tip.
Look at your count.
Go online.
Whatever your council is, obviously we come under Brock Spawn.
What do you come under?
You're under East Harps.
Yeah.
East Harps.
And I'm sure they all do it.
What a cracking service.
I'm going to have a look.
Yeah, no, really good.
Saves Mark driving to and Farmer here, there.
And it's going to a good cause.
They're not just dumping it.
Oh, no, that's really good.
Yeah, so that's what I've learned.
Game changer.
Yeah, it is a bit because you're not going anywhere.
You're just sticking it on your doorstep.
Whilst we're on the subject of doing this, doing that, a few bits and
pieces. I do have to give a little shout out to Mark because you'll be proud of him.
What's he done now? We are proud of him most of the time.
He had a couple of days off. He'd been working really hard. He's off now for a little bit.
So he said, just write me a list of little jobs, anything that you need doing. So I put up a
picture in kitchen, put up my Albert Square sign that's not on the wall there, you know,
wherever it is. When I say Albert Square sign, by the way,
There's a bit of a random thing to say.
When you leave EastEnders, you get a replica street sign that everybody signs,
which hasn't been hung on the ball, just so you know what I'm talking about.
Outside, you know where the little bathroom is?
Oh, yes.
There's loose in there.
Then I wrote door handles in Eliza's room.
My toilet seats, I know this is random.
All loose?
No.
Stained.
But to the point where, you know, I'm using the pink stuff.
I've really had a go.
The top of the lid or underneath the lid?
I said I'd really just like a couple of new toilets, leads to freshen it up.
Fuck me.
He's cleaned them.
No, five hours later, every job was done.
Oh, curtain poles, I said, I need some curtain pot.
You went, yeah, I've done all those.
Lists, you see.
It's a done it.
It makes you, the OCD kicks in.
You think, right, I've got a list now, I've got to tick all these off.
but how lucky are you to have someone that you can just say?
All of them done.
And all the odd jobs.
All the little bits.
And those little bits do, they end up, it's the wear and tear of the home.
You know that I would love to do all the things that I want to do.
But realistically and financially at the moment, I don't know, I have to be sensible
because I don't know what's coming.
I could have a really quiet year.
So in my head, Lynne, I thought, instead of just leaving it all,
I can do these little bits and just make things look better.
Like in my room, I've still got the girls, I know everyone takes a piss out of me and the family,
I've still got the baby changing unit that I use as a chest of drawers.
Everything's higgledy-piggledy.
I don't care, you know, I'm honest, I tell you everything, listeners.
But I thought, no, if we can just sort all of that out, get those out the way,
I can buy a couple of nice cheap bits from wherever, dolls or, do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
And we get a little dressing table with a moment.
mirror and just make things look a bit better new curtains you know lick a pain in my room
you haven't got to spend silly money not you know to make it comfortable to make it just and
fresh and pleasing to look at yeah yeah so I'm that's what I'm doing I'm gonna just start doing
a few little bits like that and you're lucky because mark can do so much of it yeah I mean that
is half the battle I've got advice some advice to ask you question as long as it's not too
personal oh no lots of people listening yeah it's um my wardrobe
I think are quite ugly.
The mirrors, sliding ones.
No, the ones in my room that open.
So there's wood and then kind of a paint.
You know?
Could all of that be painted?
Yeah, of course.
I could paint all of those.
But I could get a decorator in, whatever, and just so I need...
Paint transforms.
Wrap in, you can wrap furniture.
Well, I felt I'm just going to paint them all in.
Nice clean, same as the walls, maybe the same colour as the lounge,
nice cream colour
and then just
I think it'll transform the room
but it will
it's mad
a bit of paint
different flooring
can change a room
drastically
freshen it right up
without having to spend
silly money
until you know what you want to do
what budget you've got
the money to do it
exactly
might as well freshen it up
is what I'm thinking this year
yeah and you'll feel better for it
and you'll like it
it'll make you like your room
and a bedroom's important
you've got to have the right
oaring your bedroom and it feel
And I hate it
A haven
You know you're going in
Yeah well that's not good
You shouldn't hate your bedroom
No
It needs to be like a bit of a peace haven
So yeah do it
And it won't cost you bundles
And Mark can do so much of it as well
Yeah
I've bought some lovely sage curtains
From Dun Helms
Oh right
Well put that your room
Yeah
Oh okay
Oh so you are already on it
Yeah
Good
Yeah I'm having a go
Yeah good girl
I thought I was to follow everybody
I let you know
The before and
Before and afters.
I'll do a couple of shots for you.
But I always just think you always have a great way of freshening rooms up cleverly, you know, be it cushions or painting a piece of furniture or you're very good at that.
Well, look, Maria's painted her little nest of tables that she's got at home.
Has she?
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Oh, she'll have to talk to us about it.
She's transformed them?
She found a chew cabinet yet.
No, Tony's so going to be making one of those.
sooner rather than later time, please.
He doesn't tell me about that, secret squirrel?
I want to know about the bloody table.
Really good.
So Ferris gave them to her and Ferris painted them.
So they wrote like the stack of three.
Oh, I thought you meant Maria.
No, I mean my Maria.
Oh, you do?
So Maria, they started with Maria Ferris.
She had them.
When Maria bought the house, it was something she gifted her.
But she painted them for her.
Right.
They have been chipped and along the way.
It's been years.
And Maria has now freshen them up with a different colour paint that she had.
Paint she had, I think one of the bedrooms or the bathroom colour paint.
It looked brilliant.
How lovely.
Yeah.
Again, restored some furniture.
Yeah, it's so good.
So good.
I mean, I'm even thinking, do I need that desk in here?
That could go in my bedroom.
But I probably do need it in it.
Actually, it would be a nice dressing table.
That's what I'm saying.
But I do think I might need something in here.
Anyway, is this really boring for everyone?
I think they like us.
No, but we do this.
Don't we do this, guys?
We just start talking.
And we forget we're doing the pod.
But I haven't seen that.
I haven't really seen you or spoken to you.
Not since the last pod.
We've been so busy.
Honkers.
Have I not seen you since the last board?
No.
Yeah, it's crazy.
We've got a nice little get-together next weekend.
So that'd be nice.
It'd be lovely.
Yeah, really lovely.
Really looking forward.
What are you wearing?
Ah, so we talk about people of my age and what we wear.
Well, funny, you should say that.
We've got a lovely message to play,
and then lots and lots of stuff to do with your fashion sense.
My fashion sense?
Well, ladies over 50, that sort of thing.
So let me just play this.
Hi, guys.
I just wanted to drop in and say hi.
A little bit of a question that maybe you can help with.
At the age of 55, I'll be 56 this year, I finally decided I'm going to start looking after myself
because, to be honest, it's shocking.
As so many people, I just don't, I don't enjoy clothes shopping.
To be fair, I don't enjoy shopping of any sort, but I don't know what looks right on me.
I don't know what I should be dressing at.
And I just see Auntie Linney always looks great.
She doesn't look like, I don't know, what's the term we use nowadays?
Because it's not mutton dressed as lamb.
But I always remember in my younger days when I still went nightclubbing and things,
there'd always be some middle-aged woman, well, we thought middle-aged probably wasn't that old, I suppose.
So it just didn't look right the way they were dressed and that.
And now I just think, what do I wear?
What do you wear at our age?
Which we don't want to look frumpy, but we don't want to look like we're trying to keep up with the kids, so to speak.
That even from simple things like handbags, I mean, I've looked at photos of me with bags.
And I'm thinking, what, my back's bigger than me.
It looks hideous.
So get some general fashion, makeup.
Just how do we age more gracefully without, yeah, looking shocking?
Anyway, I look forward to listening to the next pod.
I'm totally up to date.
So I'm always pleased when they come out.
And I do love all the pods with each and every one of you.
I can't pick a favourite.
You all bring such different things to the table.
It's Linda, by the way.
So, yeah, love you all.
Oh, brilliant message, Linda.
Oh, so much to unpick.
I know, there's so much to unravel.
Talk about.
Get her on the phone.
Oh, feel your pain, Lynn.
I don't like clothes shopping.
I love clothes.
I don't like shop.
I find it mind-numbingly boring, depressing.
Because she's absolutely spot on.
Where do women, and I'm older than you, Linda,
where do we shop?
And I don't want to dress like, I'm not embarrassed to tell my age as like everyone knows everything about us now.
I don't want to dress like a 62 year old.
But then how does a 62 year old dress nowadays anyway?
I don't think there's a night.
It's not like it used to be.
No, that's the thing.
We still talk like it used to be because 60 year olds dressed like nannies who would sit there.
Yeah, with their matching two-piece and hair enrollers.
I know the girls were hair in rollers, but it was a different vibe.
And look, it is different now.
There is no age.
As a human being, as a woman or a man, and you're right, Lynne, there's that fine line where you don't want to look like you're trying to dress like your daughter.
Correct.
But equally, I don't want to dress like my daughter's nan.
No.
I think you do get it right.
But I think when you are slight, so I have been blessed, or be I had to work hard at it for the last few months to remain.
slight, it is easier, Natalie, because I think you can carry things off as in a younger style.
I think you can just carry it off slightly easier than if you're slightly more rotund or curvaceous.
But I tell you one thing.
I don't know if I agree.
Do you know?
I might be speaking out of term.
You've got to know.
How to put things together.
You've got to know how to put things together.
And I'm talking about, when I say slight, I mean, like, I don't have, you know, I've got boobs.
but I'm not, you know, I don't have, I'm not big busted.
So again, it's a different look.
Great big knockers.
Yeah, I don't have those.
Never have.
Which I quite like now, but back when I was a young girl, hated it.
Oh, yeah, of course.
Spent my life shoving socks down my bras and now I think, oh, if only I didn't.
Because actually, I've quite like that look now.
It's mad, isn't it crazy?
There's such a fine line to getting it right or getting it wrong.
I think we are blessed now that women can dress so much younger for their years
And please, Linda, go out there and don't go into a shop and think, well, I can't wear that.
I'm far too old.
That's nonsense.
I think if it's comfortable.
If it, you know.
If it suits you.
If you feel good in something, then you know.
Most of the time, it's right.
It'll be right.
And listen, I would never go out and like I wear gym wear like you do.
You know, when I was slightly bigger, I would always make sure my tops, my T-shirts would cover my bum, cover my front.
Yes.
Now I feel a bit more comfortable wearing something a bit fitted that doesn't cover the bum and dumb.
But there's still a fine line to how much a woman of our age can show because it doesn't, doesn't.
Natalie, me and you could be the same size, but you could wear something that I could not wear.
Oh, 100%.
I completely agree with you.
Even though we're probably the same size.
Absolutely agree.
You know, Dave's been pulling out items of clothing that I was wearing 20 years ago that I can now get into.
but it's still not a good look.
And also, even if you do lose weight when you're older,
you're still broader, you're still thicker.
It's a different shape.
You're a different style.
But I have got the answer for everybody.
Last Saturday, no, last Sunday, I went to London.
Yep.
Because of the birthdays and everything,
I thought I need to just go and visually buy stuff.
I can't do it online.
What all these birthdays are freaking me out?
I've got 40ths, Elyas,
it was Amis.
I've just got January.
Just really busy.
It's just whatever.
Fair do's.
And I wanted to get some special pieces.
Anyway, went to London, Elizabeth Lyon to Bond Street, is it?
And the Dean Street exit.
Right.
I'm useless with my job.
I know what you mean.
So Dean Street exit we took.
There's a new Marx and Spencers.
Is there?
No, no, no, no.
I have to say, you know I always struggle in Marxist.
You always do really well we close.
But off late, I've picked up a few pieces.
They have definitely up the ante.
So for women might, well, for people,
Your age?
Maria's age, Elia's age, my age, they cover every spectrum of...
Agreed.
It's incredible.
I'm very impressed.
There's still always room for improvement.
Please, you're banging on about it because I don't need to.
So we went in and quickly, I won't bore you all, but we go into this store and it was beautifully
laid out, spacious, because it'd only been open forward out.
which I didn't know at the time.
Every rail had every size of whatever item you picked up,
which was lovely to see.
Because that's another thing that really...
You've got a weight and it's not there.
I haven't got your size.
Oh, and I'm just like...
Can you order it?
Yeah, order it to home.
All that. All that.
You just want to pick it up, don't you?
So anyway, I'm like...
It was actually fun.
It was actually enjoyable experience,
even for your poor brother that I dragged up there with me.
We then go into the changing rooms.
They are spacious.
They are immaculately clean.
They have a massive sofa in the middle that goes all the full circle.
So the husbands or whoever, the daughter that's been dragged,
get to sit somewhere comfortable with this beautiful diffuser that just kept wafting.
Honestly, it was such a beautiful experience.
The staff couldn't, because it's new,
A staff couldn't be any more accommodating.
I'll tell you what.
Well, my dress for the christening, you know, nothing OTT, but I got my dress.
Well, you better tell me because I'm going up there on Thursday to get my...
That's what I went up there for, to buy a dress for an outfit.
I wanted to travel suit for the christenings for my wearing, picked up a dress in there.
You'll have to send it to me because, you know, I'll go in Thursday.
And we'll be rocking up on the same dress, that'd be funny.
So let me know.
So, yes, we are very limited.
I feel women of, say, over the age of 50.
Yeah, but I feel like I'm 42.
I don't really know.
I go in Marxist.
I go, I mean, I have to say supermarkets for me.
You know, I can pick up something sometimes Tesco's.
See, again, I've got this hang up about when you get to a certain age, as I've said to you earlier,
there's certain things I could wear that would fit me because we're more or less same size,
that I wouldn't wear still.
Well, we're not the same size, but yeah, keep saying that.
And I also feel when you get to a certain age,
there's certain things you can wear,
and the quality's got to be there.
Do you know what I mean?
Yes, well, that I think is actually the person you are.
Because I've known people who are, whatever,
don't matter what age 20,
and they'll come in and it looks like a designer garment,
and they'll go, oh, I've got it in H&M on the cell room.
Yes.
I can't do that.
Yeah, and it's funny.
I can't do that.
Yeah, I'm not great either.
I feel like, oh, this is...
Not very good.
However, again, I love a...
Willie Cardigan and different prints and, you know,
Elsbells will say, oh, can I wear these coloured jeans with that jumper?
I would never think about what goes with what.
Does that make sense?
I'll pair anything with anything.
Or old, or if I've worn...
You know, people have evening stuff or daytime stuff.
Yeah.
Everything's just there
and I'll pair whatever with whatever.
Yeah, it's just so interesting.
We've got more questions on it, so let me...
Massive market here for someone who's in fashion,
catering for women of a certain age.
I know, but then again, I don't know what that is
because I think in this modern time
every human being can wear what they want, when they want.
But where do you buy you?
Like even I go to River Island,
I feel like it's...
The odd thing, I think.
I pick up.
I think it's quite young with Rylans.
Yes, exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
Next I find...
Yeah, a little bit bland.
Yes.
A bit vanilla.
Yeah.
For me, the place, my go-to now is...
Zara.
I mean...
Not what I saw last under.
Yeah.
The staff need to have the same training as the Marks and Spencer's staff.
Sorry, Zara, saying it how it is.
Place looks like a jumble sale.
Changing rooms are all...
There's always a changing room that doesn't work.
Also, I genuinely have to say it blow.
my mind that you're still going to change in room.
Oh yeah, I can't be bothered to bring all that stuff home,
so they have to take it all back.
I could not think of anything worse.
No, I don't love it, but I can't.
You do, I know, I get it, but that's because of your organisation.
Yeah, it is. It's an OCD thing.
Because then I've got to take it all back and then I can't have it sitting at home for two weeks.
Because you've got a load of stuff at home that you don't want.
Yeah, yeah.
It's hilarious.
So ladies, Marks and Spencer's, cry it.
Give it a go.
And nice Marx is, honestly, that one indeed.
Street, London was incredible.
Can I also mention a shop,
go on, which is a bit more quirky,
that I really love,
and I always go to the one at Liverpool Street Station,
because I'll have 15 minutes,
and I'll pop in there, Oliver Bonus.
Oh, Oliver Bonus.
The only thing I've put in there is a laundry basket.
Really quirky.
But for clothes?
Yeah.
A few little bits, nice trousers, the odd dress.
Lovely, lovely knits.
It's a little bit more expensive,
but it's not.
Silly money.
Not silly money.
And other stories.
Have you been in there?
No.
And other stories I feel that you would like.
Oh really?
Again, knits, trousers, some really nice dresses.
Anthropology is another one.
There are, I think, you know, places out there.
It's just, again, also for people, the price ranges.
And other stories, I just go in there and I think I don't want to buy a grey jumper.
Yes, it's nice quality, but it's £139.
like a jigsaw price or whistles.
Those places are lovely.
You remember the old days, French connection, jigsaw, or Miss 60, you know, all of those.
I don't know, I just feel Reese.
Reese's got some lovely bits, but it's very expensive.
So expensive.
And you've got to be super tall to wear Reese's.
Well, I was going to say the same about Zara, quite frankly.
I have to cut a pair of trousers in there.
I think if you're under 5 foot 5, you're struggling.
Yeah.
And you're right, the cost as well.
Because there are times that you pick some it up.
You wear it once and you think, what was I thinking of that day?
And then you never wear it again.
And if you spent 80, 90 quid on the top.
Yeah, no, it's no good.
It's not good that it's sitting in a wardrobe.
And that's why these people say online,
and when you're looking at, I don't know, wardrobe people
or capsule closets and what you should do,
you have to have the...
You should have staple pieces, and you only...
need a couple of evening outfits, a couple of daytime.
Because most of the time I'm walking about in gym gear.
Yeah.
That's most of the time.
Yeah, because you don't have the nine to five job.
Don't need to.
No, absolutely.
And I probably need four nice outfits.
And I could have all that room in that wardrobe.
It's crammed with stuff that I'm not going to wear.
It's crazy, really.
And your classic pieces can just be the couple of blazers, you know, that aren't out there.
so they don't date.
They're timeless.
Yeah.
A timeless blazer with the pair of jeans.
Yeah, nice pair of boots.
It's unbelievable.
Listen to this.
This is from Trudy.
Just seen your shout out about fashion.
I have one issue.
Skirt dress length.
Seen some lovely ones,
but as a taller late 40s,
heading to 50,
I don't need everyone to know
what I had for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
We'd love to know what you and Auntie Lennie.
think. I mean, as you're taller, maybe you've got to be looking at kind of that midi, the midi dress.
I don't, at my age, want to wear, I don't mind wearing a mini skirt.
I love the short skirts.
Again.
Since they've come back into fashion.
Yeah.
I don't mind wearing a short skirt if I have dark tights on.
But again, I think it's how confident you are.
I'm not a great lover of my legs.
I've got Cassidy legs, tree trunks.
We've all got the same legs.
Me, Tony and David.
We've all got the same legs and feet.
It's hilarious.
Really?
Yeah, we haven't got great legs.
So I've always been more of a trouser or a nice long skirt.
But it's how you feel.
And I think, Trudy, if you're happy, you're tall.
I mean, you should get like similar sort of skirt to what I've got on now.
Be down to your ankles.
Lovely.
I'll tell you what I do find nice for a skirt.
So you don't feel as, I don't know, you know, like a tight mini skirt.
I feel like that can be, you have to have a lot of confidence for that.
I've got a couple which are kind of a woolen material almost and they have a bit more shape to them.
They come out a little bit, a bit more a line.
Yeah, so it's not fitted as such.
So it's still short, but it's not sort of tugging at every place.
And I think that's sort of a bit more of an in-betweeny.
But when you're tall, even a nice pair of wide-legged trousers, jean.
Like Sharon.
Such a lovely look.
Yeah.
Such a lovely look.
But again, I think if you're tall, you can carry off pretty much anything.
Pretty much anything.
And I get it.
I get why she's saying I don't really want the short skirt that's showing.
But yeah, just get a nice, something.
See, I don't like, I think it needs to be either above your knee or go down to your ankles.
That sort of, I like one or the other.
Don't really like the in between.
It can aid you a little bit.
Yeah, the midday.
Yeah, I just got to be a little bit careful.
But you've got to play around with fashion.
And I think we get a bit sort of set in our ways as well
and you're scared to deviate from what you always wear.
Yes.
And you tend to have, you know, like you must do it.
You know, I know like my friends, I can go shopping.
I'll go, oh, that's a sally dress.
Oh, yes.
I can see Natalie in that.
Oh, I do it.
Yeah.
Because those people wear the same, not the same thing,
but you kind of know their look.
Or is it you have a look in your head,
which you really like on that person?
which then, you know, inspires that.
In my head, I don't see your clothes now.
I see you in joppers and a fitted white shirt with a jacket on, with knee-high boots.
Do you know what, that's sort of the linda look to me?
Yeah, it's funny, isn't it?
So you have a perception of...
Not now, but yeah, I have an image of you that reminds me of you that I love.
Maybe it's a little bit of that as well.
Possibly, yeah.
It's so interesting.
What about the traitors?
Just changing the subject.
talking of fashion and Claudia, just brought Claudia in time.
I know, well, the only thing I will say is this is coming out, sort of next Thursday, it's going to be old news.
But it was great, weren't it?
It was great.
The only mistake I've made is I've watched series one, series two.
How many have they been?
Oh, this was four.
Yeah.
I didn't realise there was a three, because I thought three was the celebrity one, which I watched.
So I started watching number three and number four at the same time.
Oh, no.
Oh, I'm confused the hell of myself.
I don't know who's in it.
It's quite a good way of doing it.
Yeah, well, it filled the night that it's not on.
He's a traitor.
Yeah, no, I was so confused.
He was on, which one?
I have been blown away by the whole.
It's a great program.
What a great game.
It's incredible.
Would you have done what Stephen did?
When you know, you're going to take 98 grand.
Yeah, he's...
You know, it was a given.
Was it a given?
Given.
And he could have run the risk of her.
Rachel. No. No. No. It was him putting her on the slate.
Yeah, because they had put her down, didn't they? Would I have done? I think I would have.
Just don't think I could have lived with myself.
I'm 28 grand. I think I would have, Natalie. I don't know if I could be a traitor.
It is mad. It's a game.
I know. But you forget it's a game.
But you don't know these people. You've known them for two weeks. You're giving up 45 grand.
I know. Bless his heart.
I mean, it's amazing.
I don't know.
I think unless you're in that situation, you don't know.
You say it's only two weeks, but you spent two weeks in the Big Brother House.
Oh, no, you feel it's mad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That is your whole world.
You're not thinking of the outside world.
So they become so close.
Those two weeks is like knowing someone for 10 years probably to them.
I completely agree.
But.
I wonder if it'd be the other way around.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
Very good.
No, I loved it.
Bloody brilliant.
That's great.
I'm going to miss Claudia's fashion every night.
Yeah, I love it.
She's got the Holland, is it Holland and Holland Cooper?
Yes.
She's got that vibe on the style.
I've got a lovely coat from them.
Oh, is that that I've been looking at their...
It's beautiful stuff.
It's quite equestrian.
Yeah, it's very new.
It's a question, beautiful.
Yeah, I feel like it's a bit of me.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, really nice.
But my colleague at work was telling me that, and I don't know what country,
they have a similar program to traitors, but they don't call it traitors.
Right.
The difference with it is.
is you know when they did the super traitor, is that what it's called?
Secret traitor, sorry.
The whole programme is like that.
You don't know either.
Oh, the whole thing.
Yeah.
So you are playing the game.
I did like playing the game.
We've said this, though, we enjoyed it.
I've followed everyone, message everyone.
Stephen's followed me back.
Fiona's followed me back.
Yeah.
Harriet's followed me back.
Because I just find them a bit fascinating.
I said I've really enjoyed the show.
Yeah, amazing.
I'd love to get them on at some point for a little nagabell.
it all.
Very good. Yeah, no, it's very, very good.
Farrony enjoyed it.
Here's a topic, which I do.
Again, it comes hand in hand with the fashion that we're talking about and the over 50s stuff.
Hello, beautiful you and happy Friday.
So, nagging with Auntie Lynn and fashion for the over 50s.
Great topic.
How are people feeling about going grey?
I've fucked off the box dyes.
I'm fully embracing the grey.
Not going to lie, it's been a hell of a journey.
and I haven't been tempted to colour my hair for two years now
and I definitely wasn't expecting the amount of attention
my ever-changing naturally growing hair would get.
I'm still mid-transition and have gone from very, very dark brown,
through to bloody ginger,
and now dark with silver coming through,
still with ginger ends that need a good chop.
Where the fuck the ginger came from,
I've got absolutely no idea.
But honestly, I think women of a certain age
can look really awesome with grey, silver or white hair.
Should we be celebrating those choices,
not turning them into a thing.
I've never been one for attention,
so maybe it's a me thing when people comment or compliment.
When guys go bald, we don't seem to feel the need to discuss it,
even though I remember back in the day men with lots of good hair
were portrayed as being more virile.
Is that right, virile?
Virile.
Virile, thanks.
Is that still a thing?
Your brother Tony has a decent mop.
Is this the case?
Laughing face.
Lottie.
But yeah, I think it's a really good subject
Because I think I see women with white hair
Nice bobs, I think they look great
But I think it's got to be a certain type of colour
To pull it off
And I think you've got to have a certain hairstyle with grey hair
And complexion
Yeah
I mean I couldn't imagine
me being full on grey.
No.
I just couldn't.
I don't think it works with my complexion.
I feel I'd have to change it.
I think I'd have to have like, for me,
I'd have the short hair style.
Yes.
Cut over the ears.
That, like I used to wear as a young girl for a period of time.
I've got really dark eyebrows.
I've still got quite thick eyebrows.
I don't know how they would work with silver hair.
So I think I love it on women.
But when I see someone, I've got a client, she sports it.
Yeah.
And she's got what I call a boy hairstyle.
And I love it.
I look at her and I think, God, I love to be brave enough to do that.
Yeah.
I'm a bit of a coward.
I'm a bit of a place safe with my hair, getting really boring.
I'd love to be adventurous.
I mean, it grows.
Hair grows.
Jamie cuts my fringe and I have an anxiety attack.
I'm like, oh my God, it's really short.
And he just looks at me and goes, please, go away.
Go away.
I must be his worst nightmare.
Yeah, I think, again, if you want to have pink hair, if you want to have purple hair, who care?
Do what you do you.
You know, I think the days of everyone being so judgmental and all the rules that apply, you're 60, you can't wear high heels, you can't wear high boots, you can't wear skinny jeans.
I mean, once upon a time, people my age, didn't wear jeans?
No, of course not.
Do you remember? Oh, well, mommy never wore denim.
I never saw your mum in denim.
Ever.
Ever, ever, ever.
But your mum sported fantastic grey hair.
Yeah, she did.
And it's short.
Yeah.
It was, but she was very pale skin.
That's right.
It just suited her.
Do you think it would suit me when I'm older?
Probably would.
No, I'm reckon you probably could carry it off.
But again, I'm not a fan of, say, someone with long, I mean, again, women our age didn't have long hair.
No, you'd chop it all.
Soon as you got to a certain age.
Under the old hair dryer.
Hair had to go.
was that all about?
That we couldn't have a long hair.
Perhaps the men was cutting it off in their sleep
and sticking it on their bald head.
Something that your brother won't have to do
because he's got his own.
So your brother's gone grey.
We don't really even notice it.
No, it's different.
And it's the silver fox thing for men.
Yes.
It's quite nice.
Mark's got a bit of grey in his hair,
but no one's panicking and all got over my roots done.
Yeah, whereas for women, yeah.
It's a big thing.
My thing with that is the stage she's going through, which is that in between, growing out.
I don't know if I could handle that.
How do you do that growing up?
You just have to wait and wait.
Jackie did it?
Jackie's got beautiful colour hair now.
Yeah, see Jackie wears it.
It's silver.
It's a bob.
Yeah.
It looks really lovely.
She's growing up.
What made her do it?
What makes you go, oh.
I don't know, maybe it's just the bother of going to the hairdressers.
Keep doing it all the time.
Because it's a mundane, it's a regular thing, isn't it?
Absolutely.
I mean, I drag it out as long as I can.
But it's patience, I think.
And if you've got the patience to, again, you've got to look after it,
know what stage you're at, it's just a lot.
I think I'd do it for five minutes and go, do you know what?
If I want grey hair, just dye it all now.
Just dye it white.
I'm not going to wait.
Do you know what I mean?
Is that going natural and waiting?
I think it's great if you've got the time and patience.
I've got no patience.
So if I wanted white hair, I'd just dye it silver.
Do you know what I mean?
No, I get what you're saying.
I just don't know.
I don't know how someone dark like me.
You would wait.
So you'd have it down to there.
I couldn't.
I just couldn't.
No, there you go.
I couldn't.
I'd have to just have like the washing and out colour so that it meant,
do you know what I mean?
It's subtle and then eventually.
Because I'm dark.
I think if you're blonde, you might get away with it.
But you don't have a lot of grey hair, do you?
No, I'm thank God.
I mean, Jamie might say otherwise.
No, I haven't got all the party. I get more than you, I reckon.
Even Maria says Mones that she's quite great.
But again, that's Cassidy.
Bellamy.
Bellamy.
Your mum, yeah, your mum's, sorry, Bellamy, yeah, on your mum's side.
Definitely.
Again, all these things are in your DNA.
Sometimes you have got to embrace it as well.
But if you don't want to embrace it, just keep having your hair done.
Just do it.
Yeah.
I'd quite like a wig.
It would be great to have a couple of wigs.
Just get up in the morning night and go.
On it goes.
On it goes.
Because you're so good at drying your own hair, aren't you?
No, I'm so good at hairstyling.
I am.
It's amazing.
What about my talk?
I know you've spoken about it on the pods, but...
Oh no, it's a shame, isn't it, what she did?
What a silly old cow.
And you were right, if you had done that.
Well, no, I've been annihilated.
Annihilated?
I think it would have made the news.
Yeah, I mean, what a...
I don't know how you melt your extension.
Well, I kind of get how it happened,
What a thing.
Oh my gosh.
You must sit and listen to these.
I know.
The last one they did, I was absolutely laughing out loud.
And I can't wish I had a good memory.
Bloody, the other thing we get when we're old.
And I just listening to it and I'm thinking, right, I'm going to mention this and I'm going to raise this and I'm going to question this.
You need to make a little voice note to yourself.
Yeah, that's exactly what I need to.
Chuck in our group.
Yeah, that's fine.
Whenever you think of something, voice note our group and then we've got it.
Because I'm listening to things they're saying.
I'm like, oh, they might say things about me and now I'm like,
bloody Jake.
Or they've got a story wrong.
I love it.
Well, I just want to be there.
I feel like, I wish I could just jump in that room now and say, hold on a minute.
No, I thought it was really funny the last one.
Very good.
Perhaps we should do a nice Mother's Day special.
Oh, that would be nice, wouldn't it, with the four of us?
Yeah, exactly what we should do.
Angela says, fashion for the over 50s.
Oh my gosh.
So hard to find clothes to complement your figure.
I'm in my mid-50s.
I don't want to dress like a teenager or an old woman.
So difficult to find something in the middle.
I find charity shops better than the high street shops.
So that's interesting.
Really interesting.
Carrie said, I'm with you there.
I'm a young 60 and really struggled to find affordable, fashionable clothes for myself.
Like you, I find I'm getting more clothes from charity shops.
So there you are.
Why charity shops?
Well, I just, there might be just.
again, some different things, some older things, vintage things that you compare with stuff.
I love that she called herself Young 60.
Young 60?
I love that.
There you are.
But look how many women are saying the same.
Where do we go?
Where do we shop?
Absolutely.
There's definitely a market here.
Lovely Joe Berry, regular texture in her.
All right.
Just seeing your post about fashion for over 50s and a harsh realization came over me that
that includes me. I am very paranoid about age. I think I am trendier now than I have ever been
before. I am the proud owner of the Best Dressed Award 2025 as voted by my colleagues.
Oh, I love it. Is that great? That's brilliant. It's a lovely compliment when, because, I don't, sorry,
what was this lady's name? Joe. I don't know if Joe feels the same. When you go to work,
I certainly am with my colleagues who are all younger.
than me. I forget that I'm not their age. I think I am their age. Oh, I used to do that.
And they treat me like I'm the same age as them, especially the girls, not that the boys
don't, but the girls, you know, one of the girls, there's one in particular, she always says,
oh, I love that on you, Lynn, which, oh, I've got that top like you have. It's such a compliment
that someone who's 20, 30 years younger than you, is paying you a compliment or has actually
got the same blouse or shirt or whatever as you have. And it makes you feel so good about
yourself because yeah at our age we've got enough to sort of be contented with without having
to then worry about you know like every day you're going to work every day you've got to dress
up for work every day natalie oh i don't know what i don't oh my god not for me i'm afraid if
anyone sees me they know i'd go out like this yeah not done terrible yeah but aren't you
lucky that you can i know well i shouldn't really i should make a bit of an effort at times but
i feel i'd be the same it's just nice yeah but wouldn't it be
be good if we had someone in the family that was like into, you know, that was in fashion.
She does help me.
Well, lucky you.
But even, but I feel like there's a market here, but we mean a certain age.
I've been saying this for a long time.
Yeah.
I know you're saying, but no, you can just go anywhere.
But no, wouldn't it be fantastic if someone just said, right, I'm just going to focus.
On that age group.
On that age group.
But I'm not going to do the old, you know, what I call frumpy, stereotypical.
You know, like the, well, look at my mother of the bride
and mother of the groom outfits.
Yeah.
If you said to someone, Lynn's going to be mother of the bride and mother of the groom,
what should she be wearing?
I don't think they would have picked out what I picked.
No.
But I had to sort of spend money to get to that.
And a lot of time, if I remember right there.
Yeah.
So wouldn't it be amazing if someone of, say, Maria's age group said,
right, I'm going to do this.
Why don't you do it?
get yourself out there.
Oh, yes, people.
Are you listening to this whilst running a home,
whilst having a full-time job, whilst being a nan,
whilst doing podcasts, live and in a studio,
anything else you like me do?
There's a few things downstairs that they'd do it.
Yeah, whilst cleaning, a lot of cleaning.
Interior Design, I'd love to do it.
But I'd need someone like Maria who's in, it's an art, Natalie.
Well, there you go.
Yeah, maybe something we can do.
Have a little think about it.
Yeah.
A couple of messages.
correspondence-wise, I must fit in if you don't mind before we go.
This is Sam from Tiverton.
You started the pod a year after I lost my mum, and it was so tough, and you and the family
have really been a comfort.
A friend told me the grief never goes away.
You just learn to work around it, and that is so true.
Just circling back quite a few Eps, I use a scraper, like the ones for cleaning paint
off glass, to clean the top of my glass hob.
It's like a razor blade stuck in, but with a plastic handle.
Think Auntie Linney should set up a cleaning agency
And call it Linney's Pinnies
Love that
Just going through the menopause
And that's a barrel of laughs
Fashion for over 50s for me
Is about what suits your body shape
And colours that flatter
I lost five stone for my 50th
And it's definitely encouraged me to wear more colours
Love you all
The warmth and smiles you bring
To your audience is a special thing
Isn't that lovely
Thank you Sam
Love it, Sam
So nice
So among
everything else, a cleaning company as well, guys.
Linny's pinnis.
Lin's pin, it's got a bit of ring to it.
Or we do the old fashion and you do Lynn's pins.
We can go either way.
We could.
Yeah, bless a lot going on there, hasn't she?
Yeah.
It's hard, isn't it?
Yeah.
I thought this was lovely as well.
Good morning that.
I hope your week has gone well and you got through your revision and exam as unscathed as possible.
Oh, we haven't spoken about that.
Oh, it went all right.
Another fantastic achievement under your belt?
Let's hope so.
I thought I'd send a pick of the first lighting of your candle this morning
as I think you and Linnie will appreciate this one.
It would have been my nans' hundredth birthday today.
So I thought what better day could there be to start this candle on?
21 years without her in my world
and I don't think a day goes by when she's not in my thoughts.
She's in photos everywhere in my house,
so I still have her smiling at me every day too.
She was a big EastEnders fan.
so we'll be loving that I message you.
Take care.
Hope you have a great weekend.
Love Shan.
We've got some special listeners.
So special.
So special.
Yeah, that's lovely.
And she's lighting your candle.
So lovely.
Need to get the grief pod going.
We will definitely do it.
Need to do a live one.
So many people have approached me about it.
Yeah, a lot.
Yeah.
We will get onto it.
There's lots of people that would love to be involved
and share their stories and come on stage and absolutely.
I'm going to end on this one.
because this is very nice.
This came via my email address,
which is not used that often.
Please remember the email address.
It is at the bottom of where you get your podcast.
Please also remember www.
Lifewithnat.com.
And that has the latest episode of the pod on.
It also has all of the tour dates that are coming up
and are linked to buy some tickets.
So if anyone asks, that's what you need to do.
Hi, and that and the team. My wife Fiona and I, Neil, love the pod. We have been listening from
the very start. It's been a real source of inspiration to us both. My wife lost her dad last year and
her mum has moved in with us. Whilst we wouldn't have it any other way, it's extremely hard
and our lives have changed. Know what that's like, Neil. We listen to the podcast together in
bed and to be honest, it can take us two to three days to listen to an episode as we fall asleep
because we're shattered.
Is that because I'm boring, Neil?
No, I get it.
I get it.
Nighttime listening.
It's so lovely hearing the interaction with the family and it shows what is possible
with the support you have.
P.S.
My wife doesn't know I've sent you this.
So it would be a lovely surprise if you mentioned her.
Love Neil and Fiona Sappler.
So there you go.
Hello, Fiona.
Hi, Fiona.
What you've done moving your mum in is.
Yeah, top marks.
Top marks.
It's amazing and you won't ever, ever regret it.
You're going to have some difficult times ahead,
but it'll be the best thing you've ever done.
Thank you for your message.
And I hope we're keeping them company in bed.
Absolutely.
What a lovely pod.
Yeah.
Oh, thank you so much.
Pleasure.
I think the clothing line would be good.
I'm going to come up with some ideas, some names.
Why not?
I've got a little bit of time on my hands.
Yeah, there you go.
Give you something to do.
Do a little bit of research.
Have a little go.
And we'll be there.
We can do a bit, I could do a bit modelling for you.
Oh dear.
I think the first thing we need to bring out actually on the old merch shop
will be rubber gloves, your rubber gloves.
Possibly with your face on.
Oh, lovely.
What do you think?
Not sure we could subject people to that,
but certainly we should have some glamorous rubber gloves.
I'll get looking.
I'll get looking.
Darling, have a lovely week, won't you?
You too, sweetheart.
everybody have a fantastic weekend i'll be back very very soon and it's goodbye from me and goodbye from linnie
