Life with Nat - EP199: Nagging with Auntie Linny #21 - Are past decades better or is social media making us believe so?

Episode Date: February 9, 2026

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CBC News. Welcome to Life with Matt on this Monday morning. I have a surprise for you. We are graced with Auntie Linney today. Oh, graced. Graced. Hello, everybody. You are gracing me with your presence.

Oh, it's a pleasure to grace you. Well, you've been around, haven't you again today? Oh, I'm just what you're doing by that. Charming. Oh, yeah, I've done the whole of Hartfordshire today. I've seen every grandchild, a standard. first day. But I've got to see all of them. And obviously it's baby Frank his first birthday. Absolutely.

Love him. Where's that time gone? How, where has it gone? It's crazy, isn't it? We've blinked in that year as disappeared. Crazy stuff. Yeah. So the boys are, yeah, no longer babies, really. Oh, they're still babies. I know. To us they are. So yeah, it's been full on, seeing everybody, little Amelia bless our heart. Oh. It's been a bit poorly. and then, yeah, just finished off with Alfie and Ruby,

barfing, feeding. Bless them. Yeah, nice, lovely, it's been nice actually. Good. And now I'm here. There we go. Elliot sent me a lovely picture earlier of me and your brothers, Tony and DeMex, with Alfie as a little baby and Joni Tiny.

And it was just such a lovely photo. Oh, where was that? I'll show you it. I might put it up. What was that at some function or something? It was at your house. So, yeah, it must have. been, let me just show you it.

But again, you know, you go, oh my goodness me. Alfie, those years, Joni. Oh, look at Alph. And Joni's Did he? Did he? I want to say that was Dave's 60th. Really? No, no, no, no, no, no.

I wasn't wearing a stripy top. No, ignore me, it can't be. 60th if it was last year. What am I talking about? And it can't have been his 50. I don't even know if it was just a random Sunday. Yeah, we must have had a barbecue or something. I don't know.

Oh, I know. It's amazing. And the thing is, with the children, unlike adults, they change so much, don't they? Even two years go by and you look at photographs and you're like... Well, imagine Frankie and James in two years' time. It's just completely different children, aren't they? Joni, that I feel, once she got out of the baby stage, her face is the same. Yes.

She's Diddy, but her little face doesn't really change. She's changing, but you can still tell it's her. You know, some kids you can look at a picture at 2 and 6 and you don't even recognise them. Well, sometimes I look at photos of my three, the Nats' nieces and Dom. And obviously Dom is easy. I don't know, sometimes I struggle with Dominic. I go, is that Elia or Dominic?

Yeah. I've struggled to figure out who's who. And yet I thought on Sunday, because we had a lovely christening, didn't we? Yeah, it was lovely. I just thought Frankie was Dominic when he was little. Do you remember pictures and his little all in one? He's got his colouring.

He's got his colouring. His head shape from the back. It could be him. Bad luck and Lisa. Everyone says Amelia is the spit of Dom and now they're saying it about Frankie. Yes. Frankie for me, definitely his colouring is what Dominic

was as a little baby. Yeah, and he's got very similar features. But I think all the children, I don't really think we have touched on this enough and people do love hearing our, you know, family stuff. But for me, Amelia, it's the characteristics. It's the way she moves her mouth, looks. Does Dom smile?

Everything. Yeah, I know. It's crazy. The tongue. You know, just all the little bits. Yes. Like Ruby, I feel is a bellamy. But interesting that you say that, I got a message tonight from one of my bridesmaids

who happens to work at the... the school that Ruby's at. Yes. And she messaged me to say, Hi, Lynn. Just wanted to say, saw your grandchildren today at school. My goodness me,

Ruby is the spit of Maria when she was that age. And I understand that as well. Because obviously she remembers Maria as a little girl when she's seen this little girl in the school. And that's Maria's little girl. It's amazing, isn't it? But I think you see, you see different aspects of the family within that child.

Ruby definitely has bellamy in her, but then I can see Maria in her. But that's probably because Maria might have a bit of bellamy in her. And yeah, yeah. Sad sometimes to look back and think they just grow up so fast. But it's so special as well, isn't it? Yeah, well, it's lovely that they're all so close and they're growing up together and...

And they're healthy. Yeah. You know, very lucky. Well, yeah, because we don't. I'm going to be going to the NHS. Oh, well, talking of that, you've led me into, I actually, I wanted to ring you about this today, and I thought, no, I won't.

I'm going to save it. Go on, what have you done now? Right. Joni, it might be boring for some listeners, right, but we're into normal chat now. You're left to get over it. Joni has had four ear infections within the last sort of year. So we've gone last week.

She's got an ear infection. People might text me, say I'm wrong, you can give me your opinion if you like. The doctor said to me, it's a very, very red, but it's an inner ear infection. I was worried because we've been swimming a lot. It's bringing on the ear infection.

She had nothing to do with it. This is what the doctor said. It's very, it's in an ear. She said, but if she has been perky like she is now eating without a temperature, which she hasn't had, she said, I'm going to give you the amoxicillin, the antibiotic.

But don't give it to her as you need. Don't give it to her unless she needs it. And I didn't. Okay. Because the ear, she didn't complain of the ear that night and she was very, very bright. So I've left it. Okay. But I did say, please, can we get her referred to an ear, nose and throat?

She's very blocked up. She's like me. If we, be honest, when I was younger, I should have probably been all checked, add a noise. I'm very nasal. I snore like a pig, all that stuff. And I don't want her to have the same. No.

So I've said I'd like her to be checked out for ears. nose throat. Mm-hmm. Fine. That comes through. I think bloody hell. It's quick. Fantastic.

So the doctor has referred. I've got a letter here. Brilliant. Booking reference number. Excellent. Access code. A couple of words. Lovely.

Go online. Here we go. Select your clinic. There's five choices. Fantastic. Nearest one, Harlow. Press the button.

What year? There are no available appointment. here, choose another clinic. Okay, no problem. Okay. There are no other... All five clinics that I'm clicking on... Have no availability.

Have no availability. Try again later or send us an email. So my point to you, tell me if I'm wrong, what in the hell is the point of that? If I can't book the appointment. Even if it's for 35 weeks' time or a year's time, I know. What's the point of that?

I know. And the waste of money that is? The waste of money, the waste of time, the anxiety and stress it causes people. And also, we are talking about something which is aggravating me and a little worry, but not a huge worry. No, I guess. Who's going through that with huge worries? No, no, Natalie. I might have lost as to what to say.

So I will carry on trying, and I'll try again tomorrow, and I'll try again the next day. but what's the point of it if I can't book the appointment? Or am I wrong? No, this is where it breaks down. They've done what they need to do. And back in the, let's say, the old world, you would get through to whichever you would select your hospital. Well, also, you can't talk to a person. Oh, no.

So, you know. Oh, no, forget that. God forbid. Yeah. No, I get it. And I think what also happens, obviously, I don't want to compare myself to a child being as well. But I personally have had two scenarios and I am the world. world's worst, everyone out there for, you don't go anywhere. Yeah, I don't go to the doctors.

I don't do any of that. I've got no interest. I don't take medication. Thank God I'm relatively healthy. But, you know, even the best of us sometimes needs to see a GP. So I've had two scenarios. One was my shoulder, my right shoulder that was giving me a bit of gyp. This is a few years ago. You have to have it x-ray. So I waited, I don't know how many months to have the scan. Have the scan, they then say, right, you need to now go and have physio. But we can do that. We'll do it on the NHS. I said, okay, fine.

I don't know how many months to have the physio. I select Hartford Hospital because I can go whenever during the day and pop in there, have an appointment, go to the hospital, sit there, wait to be, wait to be called. I get called up. So I said, well, so is this actually for the physio? She said, no, it's for the consultation. I said, oh, okay, I thought I was actually having the physio. She said, no, no, no, it's for the consultation.

She said, but there's a three-hour wait. I went, sorry? I went, no, I'm on my lunch break. She went, I don't know you're a three-hour wait for a consultation. Having waited months for the consultation, having waited months to know that information. No. So that was that. Come away, never went back.

So my shoulder is my shoulder. A little while ago, I had that little lump behind. Oh, it's not a little. I got a little lump that my hairdresser picked up on behind my ear. And that my beautician nags me about, so my lovely nose. neighbor next door. So I thought, oh God, just stop it. I'm moaning at me.

I'm going to get it seen to. So do the same rigmarole because you've got to have it scans. You wait months for the scan. Then you get your appointment. So I had it scanned and he says, don't think it's anything sinister. But you just got to have a follow-up appointment with your GP to see what you're doing with it.

Do you think I was a follow-up appointment? I gave up. I got bored trying. because I was, I've got... No, no, I've not done it. I tried to book myself an appointment on the phone, but because it's not urgent, I said, I don't care if it's in a month's time,

I just need to have an appointment. No, you've got to go online and do it. Natalie, every time I go online, similar to you. It's not even... I can't get on the damn thing because all the appointments are taken, so you have to do it at a certain time of day. I can't be bothered,

I've done nothing about it. And then they're also saying, there are a lot of people that are undiagnosed. Yeah. Why's that? Oh, there must be, can you imagine? There's two examples in this room alone. So imagine how many people.

And, you know, I'm sounding very complacent about it. And I don't want to be complacent because people out there, if you know your body and if you're not happy about something, you get it addressed. Of course, of course. It's easy to just think, I just can't be bothered. And it's bad. I think we're going to get millions of messages saying that you should be bothered. No, I know.

No, I know. I'm wrong. I'm in the wrong. But it's effort. No, but I understand. I get it. I don't want to get up at 6 o'clock in the morning to try and get this appointment. It's just, look, maybe I should try a bit harder.

I'm not saying it's impossible to do. Our GP's very good, actually. But it just shows they are, again, example, my MD took his ad. took his adult son to A&E the other day. It was rammed. Waiting hours, hours, hours and hours. People were huffing and puffing, and it was carnage. It was carnage.

Because then there's someone who's been taken to A&E, and there's three people that go with that one person and blah, blah, blah. He said the consultant came out and he did a full-on rant. No. He went, it was brilliant. He basically sort of turned around and said, this hospital was built in blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever year, at which point there was a third of the population in the area.

The hospital hasn't been increased. The staff haven't been increased. And therefore, if you feel disgruntled, have it out with the government. I mean, he said it was brilliant. And then he was literally telling people to leave that didn't need to be there. And that is the problem, isn't it? Yeah, of the annoyance goes to the people working there.

Which isn't fair on them. It's not there for. No, they're doing the best. Yes, they can. But, yes. Poor. It's not great. But I did, I had to.

Oh. Just thought what? So where'd you go with that now? What had you? I shall try again tomorrow. Yeah. And then it said leave an email, leave your contact details and we'll be in touch. Mm.

I just, I couldn't believe it. But there we are. And I guess that's the difference between now and many years ago. Well, these were conversations that were not had years ago. Well, they're not. No. Never not. Not that I can't even.

I remember I was born in the 60s. I spent a lot of time, well, a year of our lives in and out of hospital because mum was very poorly and spent 10 months in hospital, North Middlesex, in Baltimore Street. Now, I just remember, and I do remember it very well. I was a young girl, but I remember it. They were just, Natalie, they'd come over. Do you want a cup of tea? Can we get you anything?

There was more time. People had more time. The hospitals were not overwhelmed like they are now. And not just hospitals. Well, we're going to go into that, aren't we? So I put the question out, tell people we were doing a pod. What spurred me on to do it is that my Instagram reels, when I'm looking through and flicking through,

it's usually all comic stuff and bits and pieces, a few inspirational quotes. But I've noticed I'm being bombarded with, look at these pictures, the 90s were better, know this, out on the streets, the 80s were better, the fashion, And I thought, are we all, is that happening because they want us to be obsessed with the past so we don't know what's going on at the moment?

And then I thought, we all do all, we all do heart back to the good old days in some way. I don't feel I do. No. I don't think I'm old enough to do so. I'm not, maybe I am, but I'm quite a realist. I don't think I do either, by my honest. I don't, I'm very much a, the past is the past. I'm in the future.

Yeah, and it's a embrace. embrace where we are and also look ahead. I'm with you on that. I don't really live in the past. No, I don't either if I'm honest. I get why people do and I get why people make the comments they make. But remember, when you look back, you're going to reflect on the nice things. You're not going to reflect on the negative things.

And listen, there are positives in today's world and now are positives in our past, years. I agree. But there's also negatives to what went on years ago. Okay, an example. Let's say someone said to you, you know, 30 years ago, imagine if you could have a TV where you wouldn't have to get up to turn the channel. We'd all go, that would be amazing. It would be this thing with lots of buttons on it and you just press it.

And you don't have to get up every time you want to change the channel. Or imagine if television was on all. all through the night, it didn't go off at midnight. You'd be like, oh, that's fantastic. That is for you, because you don't go to bed. Yes, for me. Yeah, I'd be in all sorts if that didn't exist. No, you'd have VHS's lined up for the evening, wouldn't you? Oh, no. Back in my day, there wasn't even VHS.

We do bang on about, and I get it, social media, the scrolling of the phones, you can't go out anymore on your own, women are scared to walk on their own, children can't play out. They are definitely all negatives of today's world. But is it with the children playing out on their own? I don't believe there wasn't perverts and danger and crime. It's just you didn't hear about it. I just didn't know because you didn't have... That's what I mean.

There's not... You didn't have... Constant information. Village groups and community hubs and Facebook pages and you know what vans sitting where. And now everyone's a news channel. We know everything about every street corner. Ignorance is bliss.

A little bit. A little bit. But having said that, you did, Natalie, despite, of course it went on. Everything that goes on now went on then. Nothing is any different, but it's to a different pace now. And also I would say there are certain things that are different because people of certain ages have been, I don't want to say brainwrecked. have had their minds turn. And they're able to be groomed now.

Not only that, but they've been the influence of the videos, the social media. You didn't have that back then. No. So you were your own person. You went to school. You had your peers. You had your family. And you kind of chose right and wrong from that.

Now people are sat and they can choose to look at a complete stranger and think, I'm going to take that route. I agree with this person. Especially with misogyny, how men are you. women, that sort of thing. I think for young men, that's a huge thing as we saw in adolescence. But let's have a listen to some messages because we got loads. Hi Nat, Shelley from Dover here and hi, Aunt Tilly.

And yes, the old days were better. Do you know why? Because there's no evidence of all the stupid things you used to do. And that's perfect. Tart. I mean, it's short but sweet, but very simple. She's not wrong. If there would have been camera phones and,

Social media when I was 14 and 15, I don't know what would have happened. You did, you went out, you got on with it, I was clubbing, I was doing all sorts. Yeah, we do live in this big brother world and for people in the public eye, like yourself.

Yeah, yeah. Must be horrific. You go out and you can't, the fault that someone is going to... Imagine you can't let go. I used to be sweating. Yeah, drunk. You have a bad,

date. I know you don't care about whether you've got makeup on and with your hair done. But, you know, for some people, it's important to them. Yes. Or, as you say, you've had a drink and you've had one too many and you're, you know. Well, there's plenty of pictures outside of clubs actually that the pubs got. But it's still different. But it's still different.

You won't being videoed secretly. You know. It's crazy now. You kind of lose your, well, I was going to say you lose. Your anonymity. Yeah, but you do. You do anyway. your industry. However, I do think

that's the one thing, you know I'm nice to people. I am, I'm friendly. She's not really. Joking. But if I am out and I see someone filming me without asking. I remember being at... I have to say something. I remember being at, we had a

weekend away. Do you remember you took me for my birthday? Yes. What was that called? Soop her house. That was so funny. She lost it, guys. I was like, because she is very easy going, talks to everyone and anyone, her and earlier on the same. saying they just talked to everybody. And we were sitting having a meal, do you remember, in that restaurant?

And then you do your face? And I thought, what she did it? And she went, he's filming me. You got really angry. I don't like it. I can't, again, I think it's disgusting. It's rude. It's rude.

It's a invasion of privacy. You can't film someone about asking them. I know. No, I know. But people feel the right they can. Well, they shouldn't. Even, like, if you ring a company, and they're recording your call, your phone call. They have to announce that the call is being recorded.

Absolutely. So absolutely. You're sitting there having a meal with a family member and someone's filming you. And the worst is if you're with the kids. No, well then I'd be saying something. No, I, uh. Yeah, I'd be saying something. So you need to ask if you'd like a photo.

Yeah. But that isn't a photo. But the funniest thing is when they're kind of make it out there on the phone. There you go, you knob. I can see exactly what you're doing. Have you ever done it to someone? Never. No.

Never. I've been so embarrassed to do that. I've never. Like I have been starstruck. Yeah. That's strictly. Yeah. The last time I went to Strictly, Ray performed.

And there was this tiny Ray. I couldn't believe it. And we watched her sing live. And then she got down and she always, she's barefoot. She doesn't really wear shoes. It's her kind of thing. Like standing sure? Yeah.

Well, she got down. And as she was going, I said to my husband. mark, I've got to go and sell her and he went, do you mean? I just hadn't, I said, I've just got to go and say something. So I know I've said something because I might not ever get to do it again. And I've run over to, you've been there, run over to sort of the middle of the dance floor. And I said, Ray, sort of turned around and I said, I just think you're amazing. And she just went, oh, thank you.

I walked off. I don't know, I felt just an urge to do that. So I understand if people really like you and they want to say something. And they just think it's such an opportunity, don't. I didn't want to miss the opportunity. Yeah. Yeah, I'll find it a bit. Have you not ever felt starstruck,

like where you'd like to just say, oh, I love you or? I was walking along Oxford Street with your brother and he said, look to your right and look up, literally shoulder to shoulders. I've looked to my right, looked up, and Tom Jones looking down. I thought he's going to say, Tom Cruise.

I said you'd be looking down. Even I wouldn't be looking down. You would? And I remember thinking No way Oh And he just looked at me And I looked at him

But I didn't speak to him Did you not? No It was Carpswood Street It was busy It was just caught me by surprise I didn't know what Dave was I didn't know what

Yeah that was random So I felt a little bit starstruck then Oh I would be starstruck If I saw Tom Jones Yeah Who else Obviously you know I was a massive fan of Martin Kemp

Yes And got to meet him When we went to some show but we just chatted. Yeah. Well, you left me there with him, so I'd got lumbered chatting to me. But Starstruck that I've seen someone in a random place.

Like one of my colleagues said, they saw Rickettsia base in Hartford. Yeah. He said, no, really, and he's a massive fan. And he's a bit similar character. Yeah. His character is like Rickettsia bass. He said, I really wanted to say something.

He goes, but I thought he all mugged me right on. Yeah. So I'm not going to do it. I don't know. It's just. I tell you, The weirdest one is, that is weird. When you're so starstruck but you've been asked to work with someone, that's weird.

Yeah. Yeah. You turn up to a place and you think, oh my, my, how are you going to be? You're like, all right, nice to sit. And you're just in this room going, oh, my God, oh my God. But you're being cool, you know. You're just like, yeah, yeah. Or trying to be, I don't.

That was a weird experience working with him. Brilliant. Yeah. Absolutely. But the whole time, it wasn't like I forgot where I was. Yeah. It wasn't cool. I didn't, every second I was there, I was taking it in, thinking this might not happen again,

watching him work, watching him talk. But not in a mad way, it's just because I think he's such a genius. I just feel for the, and listen, I know in your game, it comes with the territory. But for me, I just think sometimes these poor people, they're just out having a bit of dinner with a friend or a family member, or they're just walking along the road, going to buy something. And it's quite, it must be just relentless. I think when you're in a bad mood or you're down or you might be missing my dad or all those things

and then someone jumps at you in Tesco's and they go oh my God you know and where's your trumpet and you just have to go yeah but in your head you're thinking I'm done without that today but you never bite the hand that feed you. No absolutely. I wouldn't be where I am now if people didn't enjoy my performances in EastEnders or whatever and I'm sure everyone feels the same

And the more famous you get, the more you must have it. But that's part of your job. I was in a restaurant and Cliff Richard was in there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and we did go over and say, and he went up, you know, could you mind if we have a photograph, not selfie, we didn't have phones in, photograph, you know, after you finished your meal,

and he said, oh, if it's quick, I'm thinking I don't really want one anyway. Oh, wow. So, and see, that's equally, that's not okay. No. You know, you've got all these fans and you're trained to be, It's a mate. I'm sure he's a very nice person.

Yeah, he's having his meal and he doesn't want to be disturbed. But again, it kind of comes with the territory, doesn't it? So, yeah, it's a difficult one, isn't it? Again, it's a fine line. But we're digressing. We are digressing. How did we get onto that subject? It's all right.

Talking to pubs, that's the other thing. Imagine pubs closing at 3 o'clock and then having to open, and then they open again at 7 o'clock. That does happen around here. There's a village pub up the road. That still does that. That's what used to happen back in the day. Whereas now, most pubs are open all day.

All day. So, you know, again, many people might say, actually, that was a positive thing. But so it's not, it wasn't, we do, the nostalgia thing, I think we do reflect back. And we just look at, and I get it, because for many people, they've lost family members. So they take themselves back to a time in their life when those family members were there. I think that is a big thing as well. I'm sure. Of course, and I totally understand that.

We've got one here from Ruth. Hi Nat, Ruth from Warwickshire here. Just saw your post on Instagram about the good old days and instantly thought of 90s nostalgia, probably like you. I was born in 82, so a couple of years before you. I was 83 actually, Ruth, so we're very close. But growing up in that time brings back lots of happy memories. One of the things which is a bit sad, really,

is that I used to study the Argos catalogue, and I used to know all the prices, and someone recently posted a picture of the school bags, and I can remember exactly which one I had and how much it was. Anyway, love the pod and everything you guys stand for. Thanks for making our days a bit brighter. Thank you, Ruth. Now, that just shows you, we were fucking bored, Ruth, is what we were.

Because we did do some... Yeah. Funny things. Yeah. We used to have the sleeves of our CDs and the girls said it. Yeah. We were talking men and the girls, your daughters.

When you'd have your cassette with all the words. Yes. That would be your afternoon. Yes. Are they the good old days? Or is it really lovely now that if you like an artist, we can go on YouTube. We can watch live performances.

We can get all the words if you want them. We can watch videos. We can find out information. about them. I'm trying to be modern. Yeah. I remember going into the record shop in Hoddesdon. Yeah.

And you'd go in a booth, put your headset on, and listen to a track. I mean, the... But it must have been exciting. At the time, it was a... Again, it was something that now involved you leaving the house, going... It was a bit of a thing. It was an event.

You were going... The other night we had a question, I'd like to ask you as well, just following on, because I think, Can you remember the most important first bit of music that you owned, that you went to buy or someone bought you? Oh gosh, the first bit of music. Yeah, a bit of vinyl or cassette or... One that really sticks out in my mind is the shadows because my brother, my oldest brother, loved the shadows. If I hear that, that resonates with me.

And I had a cousin, my cousin in Italy, Fedruch's dad, came over, he used to spend his summer holidays with us. And he came over and bought me a single. And it was called Linda Bella Linda, which he bought it because it was my name. Of course. And that's always stayed with me.

I think I've still got that. But for me, it's Culture Club, George Michael. Culture Club before George Michael. I can't think, I think my very first single was the one my cousin bought me from memory. And we've still got them. No, it's lovely.

No, I want to ask everybody because it's a nice question. Yeah. But again, music is so nostalgic. And I'm not a massive music person like you guys are and your brother is. He doesn't listen to it so much now. He's obsessed with LBC. My God, it's on 24-7 people. And he likes to ring them every now and then.

Well, he was sort of showcasing the text messages on Saturday. I said Dave does favour. No, no. Dave from Broxbourne. Oh no, they must see his number come up and go. It's him again. Guys, if you listen to LBC, please, if you hear Dave from Broxbourne, that's the only way you're going to hear him.

So you might hear him on LBC. You won't be on the pod, but he's talking to James O'Brien and Tom Swarbrick on a regular basis. Oh, they're on first name terms. He's coming around for Sunday roast in a couple of Sundays. Oh, no, it's funny. Kirstie from County Durham said The Olden Days are better

I loved going to the metro centre and the shops were busy I love the 80s but love the technology we have now or do I just love the 80s because it was my childhood and I have a lot of happy memories And again there's another thing

When you're young, you're innocent You don't have the worries I think it is about responsibilities You don't have those responsibilities You're young All you've got to worry about Is what you're wearing What you're going to wear

Where you're going to go on Saturday night out with all your friends. So true. So again, I do think that plays a big part in it. And our children are going to be doing exactly this in 30 years' time. They're going to say, oh, do you remember when we used to sit in Natalie's studio? I know. And we'd have to wear these big headphones and the size of the microphones.

So true. And everyone will be podding because they'll have a chip in their arm. And they'll be like, we're doing a pod now. You know, something. Of course. You think of all the futuristic films back in the day with James Bond with just a video up where they were talking. You couldn't believe it. We're doing that regular basis.

Listen to this. I've seen your message on Facebook with Anthony Linney about, well, the 90s. I watched last night the Take That documentary. Oh my God, don't know if you've seen it. I honestly binge watched it. And to be fair, I was born in the same year as you. And I knew about to take that. Some people are obsessed by, I'd take that.

My sister definitely was. But oh my God, it was such a good watch. Yeah, take us back to that day. We were phones, before technology. I think we felt like anxiety and everything. But, yeah, different world to go back to them. Just getting thrown outside, playing. Your mum and dad just saying, yep, see you later.

Didn't know where you were. No phone tracking. and know this and all that but yeah I'd definitely recommend to take that documentary because I loved it so it right back to the day

and do you know what such lovely people and I'd have made it and but I just seriously think they were just a group of lads that got given a golden ticket

made the most of it which is quite emotional but anyway yeah no night Claire thanks Claire that was lovely I binge watched it

After Ro Ro, you said, you've got to watch it. You've got to watch it. Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. That's mad. Get home tonight, crack it on your behalf. No, I'm still working my way through the train. I've overdosed on the train. I've got to get to the end.

I'm on the last episode. And then I'm definitely watching Take That. Because even for me, that's nostalgic, taking the girls to the concert. But you were going back 30 years. It's brilliant. Is it? Yeah. I watched the first couple.

I'm not ruining it. I'm not. The first couple of one, I really, I hated Robbie. I watched it and I thought, very spiteful, horrible. You know, I just watched it and went, oh, that's horrible. Is he in it then, Ross? No, but you will. But you see it.

It's just the stories, but I thought that's horrible, it's terrible. And then you listen to Robbie's story and whatever, and today I had some time in London. So I was on Radio 2, early doors, and then I had a meeting with Lovely Scott, my agent, and a meeting with someone. but I had four hours to kill. You'll be so proud of me. So I went from BBC, Portland Place, walked down to Marble Arch,

nice 25-minute walk. I'm thinking of you all the time. Every time I walk, I'm like, well, I'm having a walk, should be proud. I didn't get a cab, didn't get cheap. Well done. Marble Arch has a new, it's not new, but for me I've not been there,

an art gallery. And Robbie has an exhibition in the art gallery. He has art. And it was, I truly, thoroughly enjoyed it. and once I'd finished looking at his art, I thought you have been a really troubled man

and you're very, very honest. And it just all linked up. So then I was like, no, don't be angry at Robbie. It was very interesting. Because again, you've got to remember these... They're all fighting demons, different demons at different times. The young boys, they're frust into this world. Fascinating. Yeah, is it?

I can't wait to watch it. Fascinating. It's worrying as well, isn't it? To know that you've got a son that's been given this opportunity but then the consequences of what might come. And they work like dogs. Yeah. And they weren't looked after like they are maybe in today's world.

I don't know. Oh, sure. Really? What I would say is the level of fame was obscene. Obscene. But did they have the support from their agent and their management? I think that's what's changed now into a more positive thing. Oh, definitely the well-being.

Yeah. It's a Simon Cow documentary. And you can see that Simon Cow, if you see him now how he is with, you know, potential new talent, to maybe how they treated people back in the day that was on Popeye or. It was horrible to people. Whereas that doesn't go on now. They're not allowed to really. And I don't think it's a fact that they're, it is because they're not allowed, but also we've all grown.

We know how to treat people. You can't say things that they would use to say you're ugly. You've got to lose weight. You've got to turning up at hearsay's house and you're fat, you've got to lose a few pounds. I mean, it was awful back in the day. It is a different world. So that is a very positive thing. And that's what I mean with nostalgia.

There is so, we do put today's world down so much. And we do it, me and you do it on the pod. Oh, of course. You know, we're just constantly moaning about, you know, the NHS, the roads, the whatever. There is a lot of positive. I'll tell you what, though, there's a lot of. fucking pot holes about. There is, to be fair.

I don't know how we've all got cars with tyres on. Oh, it's ridiculous. Wasn't there a story that Rod? Yeah. Did the rug himself? Yeah. Good old Rod. Yeah.

Well done, new rock. Yeah. But that's no different. Stuart, we're talking about by the way. And that's no different to how, you know, but the NHS. Now people just go, oh, so dear, I'm just going to go and pay to get a doctor's appointment. I'm just going to pay to X, Y and Z. I know, but we shouldn't have to do that.

No, we shouldn't have to. Because we're playing on. That's intact. We're already paying for it, yes. Going back to the nostalgia, I think I've just remembered one. Go on. One that really, well, I nearly started crying, was when you took me to an audience with Donia Marie Osmond.

Yes. And we sat there, front row. It didn't really mean much to me. Oh, and to me, that last track, Natalie, I mean, well, I think I've got that on recorded because it was on telly, wasn't you to remember? They homed in on me, which was so ironic. But that was ironic because that just took me back,

took me back to the days of mum once a week, would buy me the Osmond. They had a weekly magazine, the Osmond. And that was one thing she would always treat me to. And listening to them singing that last song, oh, yeah. So again, the nostalgia, I guess. Those audience whiffs were so special. So special.

Talking of Cliff, old brood cliff. What? Why are you laughing? Because you're like, I don't want to follow. But I took mummy to Cliff Richard. Do you remember? I thought it was... I took mummy to the audience with Cliff. Oh, you did.

And you can see it now. And she does get up and she's dancing. She's clapping. Oh, my. And that's so not your mum, was it? But she did. And you took Dave to... I've still got the feather dusters. Oh, we went to Ken Dodd.

Ken Dodd. That was it. That went on for about 15 hours. Did he did it? He's renowned for it. He don't get off stage, does he? And I took Tony. It was Brian Connolly, I think.

Oh, really? Audits for Brian. So, yeah, everyone had a slice of the pie, but they were bloody brilliant. Yeah. Ricky Martin, you took me to sit next to Lulu. Bitstar struck then. La, la, la, la.

She looked incredible. She looked incredible. It was the Queen's Jubilee. I was on a show with her. It was a celebration, and it was all around the water in unbelievable. She looked, I promise you, she looked 50.

No, she... That in a really good way. Not like, oh, she's had a bit of work done, don't look great. I would like the number of the surgeon, please. Get it. Oh, dear, but her energy. Yeah, she's a little firecracker, isn't she? She was retelling a story.

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I was born in 1975, so don't remember too much of the 70s, but I do remember the 80s, the 90s, the 90s, the 90s, the 90s, obviously. I loved growing up in the 80s, obviously school, secondary school in 87, made some lovely friends who I'm still friends with, the fashion. Oh my God, we look back at photos, think what bloody hell was we wearing. I remember one time we had a wedding to go to and my mum thought it would be a good idea that we all had matching outfits.

So she had them made skirts and little waistcoats and there's a photo of us wearing them. I have to find it and post it. It's one of our favourites, actually. Yeah, little white skirts, white waistcoats with little blue blouses underneath, and my mum wore a dark blue one. It was all matching. That was the 80s. Me and my sister had matching clothes, three years between us.

And then when she grew out of hers, I had it again. Matching shoes. Me and my sister would often talk about the time when we went to peacocks and brought these bright, pink berets to match our bright pink coats that of course were matching that my mum and dad

brought us and we walked up Ashford town centre wearing these berries and my mum and dad wouldn't walk with us we looked like

a couple of prawns which I used to get called Dawn the prawn and wearing a pink coat and a pink beret where you can imagine I've got Dawn

the prawn all the time whilst I've got it let me show she found the phone toes. But that's one of the pictures. And then she dug it out and she found the one of everyone looking the same. Yes.

As well. And that is, again, very nostalgic, isn't it? Some of the fashion. You know, I remember the whole fame look, the leg warmers, the headband. Did you wear all that? Yeah. And then my favourite look, and I've got photos, is like the white, what do they call them? Not clots.

Like the three quarter length of truck. drop her. I used to call them pedal pushers. Yes. I had white pedal pushers. And I'd wear a gold, like the Spandale Ballet type of, the gold band across your hair. Brilliant. Brilliant.

I remember you in pedal pushers though. In the late 80s. Yeah. Because I'd come to yours and stay. I loved a pedal pusher, yeah. Pedal pusher and a 90. That's what you, that's my vision. Of me, yeah.

And that's the thing. You remember people by certain. Yeah. And the other night, what was funny, is earlier you were saying, Beverly Craven, Belinda Carlylech, going through the albums. Yeah, you go. And I said, they're the albums that remind me of you.

Yeah. So they must have been so prominent. Yeah. I remember the covers. Yes. The black cover. I remember it. I love Beverly Craven.

Belinda Carlyle, probably not as much. Who are the three girls? Oh my God. Banana Ram. Banana. But it's so strange. Hi, Nat and Auntie Lini. I was born in 88 and definitely think the 90s growing up was better than today.

I really wish my kids could grow up how we did. The world's just such a different place these days. Yeah, see, would I have wanted my children... To have grown up when I did? Not really. I think they're so more privilege now. They have so much more. The technology, as much as we moan about it.

The social media element for me and the phones, it has stolen an element of youth and an element of just the social aspect because everybody Eliza most evening she'll do her homework she's in her bedroom

I can vouch that she's on the phone to someone every time I go in there's a per she's talking she's doing something her hair and but the video

you know someone's with her in the room which I've said before and I'll say it again, no different to me sitting on the stairs for four hours on the phone. I would have loved her being able to have had a phone upstairs because that's what I'd have to do.

Sit on the bottom of the stairs. Well, I used to sit in Mummy's bedroom. She had a phone. Well, in our day, you had one phone. It was generally in the hallway. Yeah. I remember I used to sit on the bottom of the stair on the phone and then after 10 minutes

I could hear my dad stomping around as if to say, she's still on that phone. Can imagine being able to go upstairs and just lay on your bed and be on the phone. Imagine! You know, whereas I think, I think I'd feel like I missed out there, not having that. I didn't have a phone in my bedroom.

Wouldn't have been allowed to have had a landline in my bedroom? I think it's the temptations of what you can see online. It's a scary place. No, and I totally understand that. But tonight, it's not really about, we all know that. We've got laws coming in, we've got the House of Lords have just voted. Spain, aren't Spain now doing what Australia are done? It's all going to happen.

No, absolutely. Because we know it's a health problem. Well, completely. And it's obviously become very apparent because they're doing something about it, Natalie. I said it two years ago. I said it two years ago. Eliza went, when Joanie gets a phone before me,

I said, she won't because she won't be allowed. Well, on Saturday, I'm sitting talking to Enza and Helen, having a lovely catch-up. It was lovely to see friends that you can't even string sentence with anymore because the children. And Eliza joined us. Yes, I saw. And after she left, they went,

I forgot she was only 15. Because she's able to sit at a table and hold her own. She was holding the, you know, she was holding the conversation. And we were speaking about this subject, actually, about, you know, do you have your, are you allowed to have your phone in your bedroom at night? What you do? Do you want it all night? What time?

And she was explaining how, you know, she would, she used to have it downstairs. It'd go at a certain time you'd make her, bring it down. It would go on charge. But Eliza can sit and hold a constructive. conversation. And she enjoys it. Oh no, that was very apparent. They couldn't believe it.

But that's weird, isn't it? People aren't used to a teenager being able to sit and converse. Natalie, I talk to 20-year-olds. Can't converse. And when I talk to Eliza, that's my biggest thing for the children. Do your work. I'm not saying don't do you work. But if you can look someone in the eye and have a conversation,

you're going to be way ahead of others. Totally. You are. You can hold your own. If you can walk into an office, have an opinion, shake someone's hand and actually shake it. Like hold their hand. Look in the eyes. Be confident enough to look at them when they're talking to you.

That's what social media, phone, screens, has, seems to have destroyed. That's not a good thing. No. That actually isn't a good thing. Because, again, even with my children, I'm not saying they had the confidence maybe that Eliza had. No, but they weren't anxious children. No. They would walk into a room and kiss.

everyone, hello? It was a given. That was it. You walk into a room and there's people older than you there, respect. You went over, you kissed them. If they offered you something, it was please and thank you. Of course. There was conversation being had.

And this is something your brother said, not Tony, her other brother, the one I'm married to. Because I said, I mentioned I was doing, we were talking about nostalgia tonight, etc. I said, have you got any comments on that? And he said, for me, nostalgia is grandparents coming round on a Sunday or Saturday night, the family playing cards or just having a chat. That doesn't happen or we haven't been able to have that because obviously we're unfortunate with the grandparents. But then when I pick up Jackie tomorrow, tomorrow night will be that. Yeah.

We'll sit in the, we won't have the telly on. Yeah. Like mum and dad's house. We'll sit down. We'll have a glass of wine and I promise you we won't stop talking we'll have a good old catch-up

And the children will be there When this is happening They'll be around No, I'd probably be more than that would be a lie I'd say probably a lies We'd be upstairs talking to her friends When mum and dad's friends came around Gene and Dick

Didn't have many friends Yeah I'd be downstairs driving them mad Yeah For the whole night Yeah Didn't go to bed Again that's not right either

No No When I was up all night Yeah You were just Doing hair until midnight But I also remember so Elio's auntie, our driver.

Yes, yes. So their family was very close to my mum and dad's family. Yeah, yeah, he always says. When they would come round, so Elia's grandparents would come round once a week without fail. And they had a daughter, Elio's auntie, who's my age. And I remember me and Anna would go up into my bedroom and we would play. Oh, they're all downstairs. Yeah. We would do that.

We would do that. But then I was an only child, wasn't I? Yeah. I had no one else to play with. So I was always without. So you just break balls, you know. I think there's a really fine line, a fine line of... When it's adult time, children.

Yeah, so last night, we've gone down for dinner. And Elsa Maria went, car, she upstairs again. I said, well, we're doing pods all night, and now we're eating. She's upstairs on the phone to her mate. You can't make someone come down for half hour because you're free. There's a bit of give and take as well. I will say to her, darling, not seeing you all night come down. The phone will go by the breadbin and she'll come and sit down and we'll put something on the telly.

but you do get to that, I remember being 15. You don't want to sit with your parents at 15. You want your own room. But again, back in the day, it was probably different, Natalie, because you didn't have a telly in your room. No. So what were you going to go and do in your bedroom? There was no mobile phones again.

You wouldn't have a landline in your room. Yeah, see, I had a Blackberry by then. I had a phone, so it was different. I was in my room. Yes. So as a young girl growing up with three brothers, I would go up to my room when it was bedtime. Yeah.

And even then I'd go up a bit disgruntled because the TV was downstairs or there was, or my brothers were going to, in one room. So they had each other and I could hear them giggling and having up and I'd be like, oh, this is not there. Yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, of course. So.

It's a great subject though, isn't it? It's a great subject. And there's so many, it's interesting, it will be interesting to hear the different comments and takes on it. Oh, we've got loads, hang on. And there'll be so many more after this dialogue, I think. I think so. You know, we would have dinner and everyone ate together every night.

But that's a timing thing. Yes, it's completely different. Because my mum would be home from work at half-past four. Yeah. Dinner would be on the table by like 6 o'clock. My dad worked shift night, so he'd go after we'd eat. But as a fact, that's one thing, Natalie, I remember because food was a huge thing. Of course.

I grew up in Italian household. My mom was an amazing cook. We, as a family, we ate. It wasn't like children eat first, adults, eat after. Oh, no, I get that. We would eat together as a family. If we have the opportunity, we eat together.

But that's... But not many people do. Eliza was out. Me, Joni and Mark sat down and eight. Saturdays and Sundays, eat together. If everyone's in, we eat together. Mark's at work.

You don't get into eight o'clock. What are you talking about? It's not that time. It's not realistic. Or if I'm out. So now, people think it's an achievement to do that once a week. Absolutely.

Yeah. And this is where life has just got so busy. Well, it's evolved. It's changed. Hours are longer. Both parents are working. Yes. Because again, back in the day, many women did not work.

I would love to be a stay-at-home. Would you? I would have loved it. I love my work, but I could very, very easily be at home. I couldn't think of anything. Keep my house. Yeah, make sure that dinner's all ready. take pride in picking up the children every day from school.

I love going to work, but I could have had that life and I think I would have been equally as happy. Because I know how I feel when I'm annoyed if I've got to go away for four days. It kills, I think, I can't believe I'm not at home. The guilt I feel, I hate it. So is it guilt because of the children? Yeah, because I like being with them.

I think I'm not there for them. I don't like it. But I think sometimes it's equally good for them. Like now, I sit with Elia and Jay. He's so needy. Same with Frankie and Lisa. Well, no, but I think that's their ages. It's that separation anxiety stage, isn't it?

Well, yeah, they're going to have a shock because they've been, yeah. So I do think it's good for them to have that little bit of time. But then it goes, it goes. Eliza was terrible. Was she? Yeah, do you remember? Yeah, I remember that. Phoneed me up from the house phone.

She was terrible. She hated it. When I used to go to work, she'd be crying. Now, I texted tonight. Hello, have you been run over? Are you all right? And I phoned her. She went home home.

Seven. I said, I've sent you four text messages. You could just say yes, Mom, I'm fine. I'm up my friends now. Oh, you know where I am? I said, no, I don't. You've walked somewhere. It's dark.

It's raining. Could you just have the courtesy to say hello, mum, or just message me back? But imagine that 30 years ago. She wouldn't have been able to text on Mrs. No, you just wait for darken them to get in, find their way home. I used to use the paper.

phone? Yes. Yeah. Used the pay phone. Going to be half hour later? Little bastard I was. Hi, Nat, the good old days. In my opinion, it's all relative.

I think most people look back to their teens and 20s as the golden time. It has less to do with the decade and more to do with the time of your life. Agreed. The 90s were brilliant for me for that reason, but if I'd have been 18 in the swinging 60s, then I believe that I'd think that was the best

decade. Much love to you and Lynie, from Alex in Bishop Storkford. Lovely Alex. I agree. I concur with you, Alex. We've got one here from Sarah Rose. All very much the same time. Hi Nat, hope you're well. I've just seen your Facebook post about the good old days. I personally think we look back fondly

because it's a comfort to reminisce. We tend to look at the past through rose-tinted glasses and we feel safe. We know what happened and how things panned out. The future is unknown and that can be scary. And that is another... Very valid point. we feel safe with that because it's done.

We know what, yeah, what happened. It's a great point. No, it's a very, yeah, because the future is a little bit scary. You don't know health-wise. Because that's the other thing now. Again, back in the day, you didn't hear it. You didn't hear of all these, especially the C word. But now it's every other person you speak to

or you're on social media and you read of someone else. I know. You just didn't hear it then. Because you didn't have those platforms. You didn't have the, exactly. You didn't have the ability to hear it. So, yeah, valid point. Hi, Nat, first time messaging.

Or like a first time messenger. Don't make sure it's not only you first, right? You've got to keep on now. Thank you for your pod chats. Since you started your warmth and laughter, you have brought me great comfort. I moved to New Zealand in 2024 and you have given me a little piece of home every week.

I was looking through some. old photos recently of a trip to Ibiza in 1996. Ten girls and ten guys, we were around 17. In all the photos, we are chatting, laughing and engaging with each other. Not a phone in sight. I remember the night's out, all memories in my head as there weren't camera phones. Purely living in the moment. This has to be better than now, surely.

That's one thing I do, again, I totally agree with her. The amount of time that's wasted when people are. out. Trying to get a photo. Yeah. Trying to get photo. Trying to get a video. Trying to get a selfie.

And I'm not, you know, and I hate doing that. That's one thing I do. I don't, I want to enjoy what I'm doing. Well, my favourite is, I like it, but fuck it, I don't care. It's my pod. Assemblies. Now, you're told. You can't video them now.

You're not allowed to put it on social media or whatever, right? Oh, so you can record them. Can. A hundred phones. Yeah. You watch your child. I know. You're missing it because...

Why don't you watch your child? Because through that, it's not as good as me looking at me. No, totally agree. Totally agree. I mean, I'm not at half of them. So, you know, fair enough for the mums that are. But just watch the assembly. No.

But I guess you're having a memory that in 30 years' time they can look back and say... How many people, even family members, want to watch that? No, I know. Be honest. No, I get it. It's dull, isn't it? Yeah. Unless you're a grandpet.

No, I'm a bit... Unless you're a parent. Yeah, no, I know. Or a child. Or it's extraordinary. I would love to... I mean, I'm a bit over the time. I would love to get more videos of the children if they're doing something or whatever.

But also, things will evolve so much so that you won't be able to find that recording because the phones will have evolved. Like us now, I've got things on tapes, things on the... Cinny film. All sorts. Who's ever going to do it? We're just not going to do anything with that. So you think you're making all these memories when actually the best memories in your head.

But that aggravate. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I'm trying to... Oh, it really aggravates me. Morning night. I'm whispering because it's coming up the 10 to 5 in the morning and I'm out walking my dog.

So getting my steps in before a leaf away. I've got half that's fast. But anyway, back to your question about, do we think the olden days are better than today? Definitely. I feel like everyone thought about each other a bit more. You know, like your neighbours helped each other out back in the day. I just think in general, let's not even talk about the prices. I mean, the prices back in the day, I wish we could have them today.

But I just feel like everyone was much nicer back then, you know, helping each other out. I feel like we didn't have to work as bloody hard as we do now, so bloody keep going. but I don't know I think just everything in general was just much better back in the day like I said helping each other out I feel like the work-life balance was a bit more easier back in the day

you know I feel like I had more friends back in the day I don't know if that's just because I'm getting older and a bit more wiser but yeah what do you guys think anyway it's Tracy from Manchester see you soon bye oh I can't believe that Tracy is up at 530

well no at 4.50 am, voice-loating us. Oh, bless her. That's good girl. That's a commitment for you. But again, I do, were people a little bit? I think so. Was it about being nicer or was it about having more time to be nice?

I think we had more time. So you naturally were not rushing about it. Not rushing around and therefore had more time for people. So if your neighbour was in the front garden, watering her tulips, you would stop and have a 10-minute conversation whereas now you're like, hi, I've got to go, could be late for work? I think we've become more insular as a society. We lock ourselves in, especially in the winter months. You'd likely not to see a soul from one week to the next,

especially if you don't work. Again, back in the day, that wasn't the case. People were washing their cars. Hanging their washing out. Hanging their washing out. Kids were playing out. That's one thing I do believe. The community.

There was a community. Regardless of where you lived, even if you lived in London, Natalie. Yeah, we've had a wonderful conversation about, COVID times and WhatsApp groups were neighbours. Where you've had a nice community. Yeah. So again. Yeah.

But I do, I think she's got a point there. Yeah. About people just being that. It's about time. I think you're right. Yeah. We have the people who have more time. We're constantly chasing our sale now.

It's go, go, go. Yeah. It's a gerbil wheel. Yeah, massively. Hi, Nat. Hi, Auntie Linnie. This is Holly here from the lovely Isle of Sheppi in Kent. Hi, Holly.

But an original South East London Guild. from Greenwich, SC 10, Oi, just give myself doing that, not going to lie. Just want to say,

first of all, love the pod. I've been with you from the very jump. I'm an OG listener and thank you so much for getting me through my weeks.

Honestly, I do not know what I would do about you girls and Tony, of course. But just want to reply, really,

to was life better decades ago than it is now? And in a nutshell, yes, it bloody was. Because there was no responsibilities,

we had more time. Everything is so fast-paced these days. We didn't have technology. We didn't have mobile phones. We didn't have social media. Everything was a novelty back then. If everything was the first time, our first loves. You know, our first time going out clubbing or raving, if you're as old as me.

And when I say that, I am pushing the big 4-0. And yet, this is a whole other... subject. I've not even had Botox yet and I'm nearly 40. Is that good or is that bad? I don't know. It's cracking that is. Absolutely cracking girl. Do I look the oldest out of my friends? Yes, I do. I look like an old hag, but I digress. Never mind. Anyway, rambling. Bottom line is life is better back then. Gets a little bit shit now because everyone's a bit entitled and a bit spoil and a bit laudy dar. But anyway, keep up the good work, girls and I'm going to really cringe if this was to ever get played. Hope it does. But anyway, love you girls. Bye. Well, there you go. Cringy. I love the word entitled.

We use that a lot at the moment. People do feel, I think people are very entitled. As Holly said, it seems like the general consensus is that life was so much better back in the day. And Holly's only not even 40 yet. I know. I know. I get it people of my age, looking back, reminiscing, nostalgic. You're young girls.

Yeah. At 40, I do not remember. Even thinking about it. We've put it in their minds. We've put this in their minds. But again, I think it comes from what I'm talking about on the phone. The 80s, the memories, the toys, the 90s. Yeah.

The sweet. The sweet. Whatever about the television programs, the jumpers. Why is that all about them? What is it they're trying to, like you say, to distract us from what's going on that? Well, all he's doing is highlighting how about it. They don't want to be doing that. They should be doing the opposite.

But you know what? Maybe for me, reflecting back gives me a bit of pain. Yeah. Because obviously, I don't want to keep piping on about it. No, no, no. When you've had loss, it's painful. A young age. So you'd rather be in today.

So maybe I've just blocked that little bit out. Yeah, I get that. It was painful. It was horrible. I'm sure you have. So. And I don't like looking back. No, maybe for the same reasons.

We were young. Well, I was, yeah, I regret certain things with mum and we've done all that. But again, I don't look back at it as a joyful, I think, no, I'm a better person now. Yeah, so I'd rather look ahead. I like now, I like now. And make the memories for your children, my children, my grandchildren. Better. Yeah, so when they be flet back, they'll have a really good time.

Do you remember, do you remember none are doing this? Do you remember mummy and doing that? Yeah. It is all about making memories. It's all about giving time to the people that matter to you and you shouldn't feel guilty if you have to go to work because absolutely we have... People love it.

People love... It's good. Everyone is different. Yeah. Work-life balance. You love going to work. You can't think of anything worse than being at home. No.

I'm not... You love home. I mean... Love my home and... Being a housewife just being at home, it would not have suited you. No, I needed... You wanted that stimulation.

And that's brilliant. Yeah. Everyone is different. Yeah, and that's why each to their own. So it's a fascinating world. And that's why we have these conversations, which is so brilliant. Yeah, it does seem like the general consensus is people look back and feel that the 70s, the 80s, the 90s was such a nicer place to be. I think it's to do with safety, as said by Sarah Rose.

That was a brilliant point. Having more time, not having as many responsibilities, and sort of knowing where you work as you're looking, back on it. And as important as it is to reflect back everybody, don't look at today in a negative way because in 10 years' time you look back and probably regret being negative about today. Just embrace it for what it is. Enjoy it. And maybe every now and then we just got to count to 10, haven't we? Or as Maria said, let it go. Let it go. Let it go. Let it go. We're off now. And on that note, we better go.

Oh, it was lovely. Yeah, really lovely. I've really enjoyed it. I hope you all enjoyed it as well. 0778, 2008, 20, 1919. Remember if there's a pod that you think someone might like, even if you don't think it's their cup of tea. Show them the episode. Send it to them. Show them how to do it.

Get them to subscribe. You know, there's an episode for everyone. Yeah, absolutely. And I'd like to add one little thing, actually. Yeah, go on. If there is any topic, subject that you would like us to cover, voice notice. Definitely.

And if it's something we feel we can discuss, we'll happily have a chat about it with you. 100%. Little Summit for you to think about. And also people have their, they enjoy a certain episode. So there'll be a subject that you might really want to discuss or hear me and Lynne talking about. Or me and Tony or, you know, I do sit on a regular basis. But it is really lovely to get your ideas.

Yeah. Your opinion. As always. Without you. Well, you're all part of the pod. Yeah. They're all part of the pod. Part of the pod.

On that note, we're off. Lynn, thanks so much as always. Pleasure. Love you. And you. All right. See you later. Bye, everyone.

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