Life with Nat - EP206: Scraping the Barrel #38 - Are Nat and Marc celebrities?

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

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Visit medcan.com slash moments to get started. Hello and welcome to Life with Nat on this Thursday morning. Hope you're all very, very well, hope you've had a good week so far. Mine's been very, very busy actually, and I feel constantly tired, which isn't a good thing. I am joined by my mark for a little scrape in the barrel. How are you? I'm actually quite tired. When I listen to other people's pods and they keep going on about how tired they are,

it really pisses me off. And now we're doing it. I haven't kept going on. I've said it once. No, but, yeah, no, I do talk about being tired quite a lot, don't I? Mm-hmm. In fact, I did feel bad today because I was thinking about the last few days

and I have had a busy few days. But I was sort of making you go out quite late to go and get Eliza last night. and I did feel bad because I thought you've driven to Scotland and back you've been very busy at work and in the great scheme of things maybe I should have gone to pick up Eliza

but you're my hero yeah I had to get into bed 20 past eight I got into bed last night everyone it was absolutely lovely a little bit of news which isn't the best at the moment but I feel like we should be able to I look at it, you know, just a little relax on the pillow.

And I was asleep. Was I asleep when you got in? Um, yeah. Yeah. What time did you get in? I have no idea. Court past 10, something like that? Um, yeah, I don't know. No, I don't remember. I mean, this is a riveting podcast, isn't it? I mean, people will be loving this little in sight.

They love it. Pardon? They like the mundane. things in life. You said about the news. Yeah. We've spoken on the pod about going to the Middle East. Yes. I have had numerous messages from people. I have to. Saying what are the chances? You time that well. I know. It's half term. There's thousands of people who have been to Dubai.

Absolutely. I do thank you all for your messages about, can't believe you went. Yeah. I'm pleased your home. But it's really lovely. Yes, it is. Our friends at work today with your old work, that was the first thing. and they want you to talk to me about. Oh, bless them. Not what time did I get in from picking up Eliza at a school? No, I know, but I really, it makes me very nervous.

I like to steer away from political things. We're not talking about politics. No. But I am very, very pleased I'm not stuck in Dubai. Absolutely. We know what the news is. Yeah. You can't ignore that.

I think I'd be concerned if we were ignoring that. No, fair enough. So, yeah, we're very lucky. Yeah, there's a few people I know have got mates over there and stuff, and they're stuck over there. I'm meant to be working with someone on Saturday. Yeah. It is not back.

You won't be back in time for Saturday. Well, it's funny you should say that, actually. Roe and earlier today, we had a couple of messages from a lovely girl who lives in Dubai called Amy on the last couple of pods. And listeners, you'll remember. We were talking to her and she was lovely.

And it was Roa today. She said, have you messaged Amy to see if she's all right? And I thought it was really lovely. So I did. Let me just get it up because she sent me a voice note. Oh my gosh. Natalie, you're all.

so sweet. Thank you. We're fine. We're okay. It's not terror in Dubai as lots of the British news is reporting and worrying all of our family and friends, unfortunately, for clickbait. We're okay. Saturday night was scary with alerts going off on our phone at midnight, in the bathroom on the floor, not really knowing what to do. I can laugh about it now, honestly. My nervous system is about back to normal, I think. But we're just waiting. It's literally just hour by hour of what is happening. But we haven't had any interceptors go off near us, which was causing the house to shake,

which was quite scary. But it wasn't any threat to us. It was the interceptors being blasted off to take down the missiles and the drones. So the UAE are honestly doing the most amazing job at keeping us safe. Everything's pretty much business as usual. apart from schools are closed so we are at home because we're both teachers so we're at home with the boys probably now until at least Monday just taking it day by day now hour by hour to be honest to see what's going off but please be reassured it is not the terror in Dubai that people

are seeing back home and scaring my friends and family at home like honestly the censor I can't even say it the censor I can't even say it the censor since the censor lies it why can't I say it. The sensationalist news is bonkers at home. We're okay. Everybody is okay. It's obviously scary. The whole thing's scary for everyone, not just for us, but we're in safe hands. So, thank you for being so sweet and checking in. And yeah, I mean, I'll keep you updated as much as I can. But the only thing I can say is just please don't believe the over-the-top stuff on the news. We're okay. We're all good. Thank you, babes. You're so sweet.

I hope you're all really good. And thank goodness you were here when you were. Wasn't that fortunate timing. Jesus. What'd you think of that then? That's interesting, isn't it, to get an actual insight by somebody who's actually living there. Hmm.

What does that, mm, I mean? When these things start and erupt throughout the world, I do like to watch the news, but is it scaremongering? Um. Because I kind of want to understand it and be up to day. Yeah. I feel like I should know what's happening. I've got a feeling.

When I was driving back from Scotland, which was on Saturday, I don't think you remember our conversations. I do. Do you? Hmm. Okay. Why?

I don't know. I thought we covered it quite well. What was going on? We've not covered it here, have we? No. But you asked your brother on our WhatsApp group about to fill you in. and I thought we did this.

No, but I like to have my brother's opinion on these things. Nothing to do with you being ever so slightly inebriated. I could have a little bit. We'd had Colchester. We'd had a couple of drinks. Right, okay. May I say? How did Colchester go?

Oh, it was brilliant. It was really good. Possibly my favourite so far. All right. The audience made it. Well, that's just alienated whoever else has been to the live shows. No, they're all brilliant. No, it was half one in the afternoon.

Everyone was in a really good mood. It was in an old church, consecrated church. It was a beautiful venue. A what? Consecrated church. What is that? What it means you can fucking blind in there. Say that again?

You can what? You can swear in there. You never heard that before? No. He was in the pub fucking and blinding. Just mean swearing. How do you manage to lower the tone on just me asking you how a show with? That is a cockney saying.

Cockney saying. Okay. Anyway, it was in a church. It was lovely. We've got so many messages saying thank you. Sophie took my shoes, because I gave my shoes away there, a pair of slippers that I had.

I had them on and I said, go on, you have them if you want. A pair of slippers? Just a pair of slippers I had that said fuck off on them. I'm never going to wear them. It was a silly buy. Again, why he's wearing again? And why would you buy those slippers?

I know, it was a moment of madness. When? Oh, ages ago. They were in the bottom of the thing. I thought, I'm going to wear them. Bottom of a what? Pardon? Bottom of the thing?

Bottom of our shoe cabinet. it. But I thought, if I wear, you know, I like to wear something for the show so the girls can sort of comment on it. I thought I'll get these out, these things. Anyway, it turned into me giving them away. I tried someone's coat on. It was a lot of banter, a lot of fun. And I have a message here from someone who came to the show. Hello, Nat. It's Helen here. I was at the Colchester show this afternoon with my daughter, Laura. And I just wanted to say how much we enjoyed it. It was just such a lovely afternoon. Really good to see. you all in person.

I listened to the pod from the start. So it's all a bit special for me. She was laughing at me because I was so excited about everything. But honestly, you didn't disappoint. It was just such a lovely afternoon. And I hope you've all had a safe journey back. And I just wanted to say thank you for coming down to Colchester. And hope you do again soon because I really loved the afternoon.

Take care. Thank you so much. Who was that from? Helen. But yeah, it was just filled with love and warmth. Jamie's birthday. I got him up on stage. He was 50, got a selfie with him, he couldn't believe it.

It was just really, really lovely. And I would urge anybody to come and enjoy Manchester on Saturday. Especially, I would say, if you're in the Manchester region. Just north. Yeah. A little hour's drive's not going to hurt? No. I'm driving for four hours.

Okay. Yeah, but for example, if while I lived in Bristol, you might wait till the Bristol show. It's sold out. I'm afraid. Is it? Yeah. Oh dear.

Yeah. Well, you better hurry up then if you're in Manchester. Or Leeds. Leeds, yeah. When's Leeds? What dates, Leeds? 22nd of March. Right.

22nd of March is Leeds. Yeah. Is that sold out yet? Or is it close to? No, I think we've got a few left. Hmm. Okay. I was really hoping to do that one.

I like Leeds. Well, you know, get busy, don't you? Popular man. Where is it? Because if I was listening to this, How would I find tickets for Leeds or Manchester? W.W.W.W. Life with Nat.club. Okay. As I'm speaking to the horse's mouth, or a horse.

Do you know what? I've just realised. I'm going to let the listeners in to something that I have to get out. Okay. Because I'm not going to be able to do the rest of the pod. So I recorded an episode with Linda, Auntie Linney, to go out on Monday. Yeah. Tonight.

I know exactly what you're going. And all we spoke about was coming to Manchester on Saturday, but it's out on Monday. It's all right, because Emerald just edit it all out. Brilliant. Be ten minutes of the pod left. Excellent. Why don't you swap them?

Why don't you put this out? No, I can't because it's International Women's Day next Wednesday. Fine. And I'm having an international women's week next week. Linney and the nieces. Right. Women week. But on International Women's Day,

I could listen to First Day's episode. Yeah. So it doesn't matter, does it? Well, it sort of does. It does for my diary and brain. But yes, you're right. I mean, someone's listening to Christmas Eve tonight. That will happen.

There'll be someone listening to Elliot Grover talking about roast potatoes for Christmas Day. But, you know. Right. There you go. Adam Woody-I was talking to be about Elliot today. I thought you were going to say he was talking to you about rose potatoes. No.

He loves cooking, Adam, so he could have been. He was asking about a sushi restaurant in number 45-part lane. not of a cut one. Yeah, it's meant to be the best in London. I explained how I don't eat sushi. Neither do I. Sorry, you had it for lunch yesterday, you said? It's the Marxist one, which is just rice and a bit of chicken and chili on it.

Oh, right. You know, like, raw fish, thick slabs of chute... Not for me. Don't do that. Oh, don't, please. Sorry. It's really not very nice at. Eliza does that.

It actually makes me want to feel sick. But those sort of thick slabs of fish raw are not for me, I'm afraid. Sorry. I don't even like smoked salmon. Going back to Linda's episode. Yes. We need to clear this up really, because if people are listening to this. No, it'll be edited by Emma.

It'll be fine. But I just had to tell you, I had to get it out there. It can be very complicated listeners. Got a lot on, you know. Right. Oh, dear. I was talking about this at the live show in Colchester. Right.

It's the Mercury Retrogate at the moment. No, I'm not interested. It does. It's nonsense. It's muddles up your brain. Right, okay. A lot going on. All right. Okay.

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Many promotions are available both in-store and online, though some may vary. I have to go back to my podcast that I did all about the algorithms with teenagers and phones. Very, very briefly, if you don't mind. I've been blown away with all the messages, so I just want to shout a few out. You don't mind, do you? Sit back and relax. Seriously, I've had so many messages, and I cannot thank you enough. I knew it would be a subject that would touch you all, and it was a hard one, hard-hitting one for a Monday,

but all of you have said, you really enjoyed it. I say enjoyed. It was a great subject to talk about, and you all feel very, very passionate about it. I'm going to read a few out so you know that I do read them. Afternoon Nat, I've tried voice noting this about five times now, but I can't stop crying, so I've given into the keyboard instead. This topic couldn't be more important than close to home if it tried. It's not just up to 16s that this affects, and I would argue that the age limit should be 18, but I'm guessing that would be a push too far. I absolutely believe that these social media feeds are the reason that my beautiful daughter is abusing herself with an eating disorder and self-harm.

For the last three months, I have been taking her to therapy every week to get a handle on a mental health that is being damaged by all this stuff and I'm very scared where it will end. Can I just say, I'm so sorry, Antoinetta, for what you're going through. Thank you. You've said, please keep fighting and keep being so passionate. I'm very, very passionate about this subject and I am going to try and keep my hand in with the company and do a little bit more on it. But yeah, I think it's something that we all need to remember. It isn't parents' fault.

That's the problem. If it was a ban, we can just turn around and say, sorry, it's illegal, you can't have it. And I know I'm repeating myself from Monday, but that's the point of it. As parents, we won't feel the pressure mark. Do you know what I mean? It's not in our hands.

It's taken out of our hands if it's illegal. Yes. It's like drink. Yes, Eliza can have a drink. But if she came home with two bottles of wine, you go, what you're doing? It's illegal. There's no argument to be had. She can't come home with two bottles and wine and say, oh, I know, but everyone else is doing it.

No. One here, which might interest you from lovely James from Mores Valley. And I think this is really interesting. James said, hi, hi Nat, listen to the pod this morning about the tech troubles, etc. And I loved it. How about at some point we come at it from another way and talk a little bit more about hobbies, etc. And what is available for our kids to enjoy that helps to. remove the focus on devices. I know we touched on hobbies briefly a while ago, but maybe it's

worth revisiting. As Mark, Tim and I can attest to getting involved in a hobby as a youngster, I believe would really help to promote a lifestyle that doesn't need such a reliance on tech and get you out to meet people of all different ages and backgrounds. James, I think you're so, so right about that. What hobbies are out there for people? I think having a passion, I think having a Fashion is really important. And I think if you haven't got a hobby of some sort, you are going to be on your phone a lot more. I agree with that.

Although saying that even with a hobby, you've still got, like I, for example, I'm on Facebook groups regarding my hobby. Ah, that would be very, if you were 14 and did the hobby you did, as you were 14 and still into the hobby that you're in now, you'd be on all of the things that interest you. So you'd be on those groups. We're talking about aimlessly scrolling through crap.

Yeah. I've got to say it's interesting actually because on Facebook especially, it's really turning into that sort of like scrolling from one nonsense to the next nonsense to the next nonsense to the next nonsense. It's interesting that. It's become Instagram basically, hasn't it? And TikTok.

Yeah. I've never looked at TikTok. Oh, it's crazy. go on mine and just sit on it for five minutes you have a headache I can't do it I've started it everyone says I've got to do it

I can't I've tried I do the odd post I put a video up I try but I it's very very fast paced but as for hobbies I think obviously sports

and music are the ones that spring to mind I think unless you're you have a family member that's into something or from quite a very young age you kind of grasp something and you really love it and you're passionate about it I think it's really hard James to not go down the route

of sitting in your bedroom scrolling in this down age. Yeah, I almost feel like I can't comment on it because not having been, you know, obviously when I was younger, it was very, very different. I've struggled to imagine what it's like. The only thing I can compare it to, interestingly, you tonight got out to, computer games and you had a little treat with Joni and you got out the PS3.

Well, that was completely to distract her from staring at a television, which is all she's been doing lately, or an iPad. How ironic. Wack on a computer game. At least she's doing something different, which she's actually, she's not, she's physically doing and thinking. She's obsessed with the telly. She's really obsessed with the TV.

However, there could be a lot worse going on. Absolutely. However, when I thought about those games, when you got them out, it really, watching her play Sonic, it's so nostalgic for me. And I used to be on those till 4 o'clock in the morning. Yeah, well, she's not going to be doing that, actually. No. Because it's not in her bedroom.

And I wasn't nine, but what I'm saying is that was my bit of technology before this. And I would be up till 4 o'clock trying to, what do you call it, beat the bosses, and the game get to the end. So I think even at my age, I still had technological things, which I was doing for too long. We have spoken about this before. But I feel that I remember very much when I was a kid. In the summer, for example, I was out with friends who lived locally on my bike

or out and about doing stuff. And there's all this whole, you know, it's dangerous. I don't think it is. I don't think it is either. And all you're doing, if you think about it, These kids who are just sat on their social media, they're communicating. It's so dangerous.

With peers. It's dangerous, but they're communicating with their peers. They're not out and physically with their peers. Agreed. And I don't think that's healthy. No. We've said this before, actually. You know, what can you do?

I mean, it's very tricky. But there's always been risks. There's always been risks during adolescence of children being out and about and mixing with the wrong crowd. and parents then want their kids at home, but the kids that being at home in their bedroom can be just as bad, and there's all of these factors. It's a minefield.

It really is. But James is right. I mean, on the subjects of hobbies, obviously in an ideal world, you want your child to be really interested in doing something to have a passion, have something they want to do. But as they grow up, their ideas and their desires completely are changing on like a week-by-week basis.

So how did you stay with yours? Well, I didn't, I didn't. It's always been a constant, though, hasn't it? Yeah, but I've got like a group of friends who have got the same interests. So the first time I went to a pub, underage, that was with people from the railway. Now, I was in the best company possible. Yeah. Because actually most of them were a little bit older.

Yeah. Hence you were in a pub. We weren't all like really underage. And they were like steam engines. Yeah. But the thing is I was five years younger than the majority. There was like a generation who I sort of tagged along with. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it was great. So I suppose my parents were quite happy because I suppose they thought, well, we know who he's with, they're older, is company we know. Yes. But I'm still doing like an illegal thing. What, going to the pub?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to do that, aren't you? Yes, but what I mean is it's even that is. But it's about your peers and your friends and who you're with. Absolutely it is. That shapes the whole of your teenage years. It shapes everything. it even shapes dialect and accents.

I mean, it's incredible the effect it has. People being around you. I know that for a fact. I see it with my own eyes. I know that's the case. But hobbies, yeah, having an interest, a passion, it's a really good thing. And there are a lot of things out there.

But I think in this day and age, again, you're not going over the park to play football with a load of kids. No. You're not putting two jumpers down on a green and having a big football match. You've got leagues. It's loads of money.

You've got to travel here. You've got to do that, be it netball, hockey, football, cricket. That's a good point. Beat your parents. That's a very good point. And everyone's posting their child and how good they are. And again, I think there's a lot of pressure on children. If they like football, we're going to get you into a club

and we're going to do this and you've got to do that. Again, I think what you said about going, playing out and to live. it's dark and the street lamps come on, just doesn't really happen anymore. No. And I understand why. And also, you know, it depends where you live. There's a chainsaw going through a jewellers in Hodgeston town, only just yesterday, in broad daylight at midday.

So I kind of also understand parents worried about their children going out because there's a lot of things that go on. Yes. I mean, that is mad up the road in broad daylight, isn't it? Yes. I mean, if we lived in Broxbourne now and Eliza said, I'm going to wander up to whoever's, would you allow her to do so after yesterday's event?

Yes, I would. Would you? If Eliza said, I'm going to work in a jeweller's as a part-time job on a Saturday morning, I'd say no. Okay. But I think the risk you've highlighted there is a very real one, but it was quite targeted. Yes.

It wasn't an attack. on somebody, it was a theft. Fetfts of, that's been going on a long time. A very, very long time. I mean, it's a little bit like our lady from, you know, Amy in Dubai. Yes. The sensationalism of it. We're talking now about, you've just reported on something

that most people, you know, listen to this, won't have any clue about, won't have any understanding of. No, but the other day in national news, It happened in a high street in West London and it was exactly the same thing Two men on a bike, masked up chainsaw to the window cut it open, got the jewelry out

I know what you're saying about targeted but I'm just saying how brash that is in broad daylight I know what you mean yeah I know it's shocking but in the year 2000 someone drove a JCB into the Millennium Dome

it was the biggest tourist attraction in the UK that year they drove a JCB into the Millennium Dome to try and steal the diamonds. I don't remember that. Yeah, we spoke about this. No, I know. I know. But I don't remember it.

Yeah, fascinating. So, you know, I need to get at a book, actually. One of the guys that did it has written a book. Brilliant. Because he was interviewed on the podcast I was listening to about it, and I want to listen to it. Read it, sorry. Is he not in prison?

He's been in prison. Oh, okay. But he's out now. He's done a book. He actually does lecturing on. I have to say, very interesting guy. And I'll take it,

what you're saying about the, the chainsaw going through the jewelers thing, it's serious. Yeah. Serious stuff. The point is, everyone says it all the time. There's risks with everything.

Everything, there's a risk. And sometimes the most mundane, innocent activities can be lethal. And if you were to really think about it, we would get our children and literally wrap them up in the duvet, put them into a bedroom, just occasionally feed them water and some food

and never let them leave you'd be petrified but you have to life is all about educated well I think we know that we've had a child who's broken her collarbone twice by falling out of bed exactly and I just feel that

there's just ever so slightly and it's two things I think not so much now because I think people are thinking twice about it I think if you go back a little way you had two things going on. You had parents wanting to look after their kids and were worried about the outside world.

Whilst the social media thing was growing and bubbling away. And I think those two things have contributed. In other words, you've got children in bedrooms, children in their houses not leaving and getting quite obsessed, whilst the social media thing is growing. And I actually feel now speaking to people and we have conversations you have about this stuff, people are thinking it would be better actually

Someone knocked for them And they went out for a bit Yeah no I do think you're right actually I really really do Message here from Jarlath Lovely long time listener Hi Jarlath Morning now I never want the pod to end

Especially this one Keep shouting on all our behalf please Channel 4 this Thursday So that's today everyone Molly V Machines Ian Russell's daughter A great interview from him On off air with Jane and

Fee podcast this week also. So if you want to do some more on the phones and apps and things, that sounds like a really good thing to listen to and watch, doesn't it? You know Ian, don't you? I do, yeah. Yeah, no, I'm looking forward to watching that documentary. I've had a lot about that. Yeah.

Terrifying stuff. But anyway, thank you all for all of your messages. I could sit here and just reel them off. But it is nice to have a little chat remark as well. In fact, I just feel like I just want you to have a chat now. I've had ever such a busy day. I've got a headache. Have you?

I've had a long... I am... Do you know what it was? Go on. It was driving back from Scotland... Well, it was working a day in Scotland and then driving back with a little detour in Leicester. Mm-hmm.

And getting home at 20 past midnight. And then... being at the O2 to very, very late. And that's kind of sort of put me on the back foot this week. Lovely evening though, wasn't it, Ray? It was great. It was so good. She's great.

What a fantastic show. I've seen her twice now, and she never, ever disappoint. I like the album we've got, the record we've got. Yes. What was that, Albert Hall? That was a good one. 21st Century Blues at the Albert Hall, yeah. Very good, Dad.

That's what I saw the first time I saw her live and she did the whole album. Yes. If I had to pick a show, I'd say that was absolutely outstanding. It just blew me away. Whereas this was a bit more of a mish-mash of all of her stuff, which I understand, of course.

But, yeah, she's great. We saw her strictly as well. We did. Yeah, it was good. Yeah, she's very good. Great role model. Inspiration for people. Any other messages?

Claire found a Maxibon on her. holiday. She did. She did. I'm being good this week. Have you noticed something about how I've started this week? If you were going to say, I've not had an ice cream, I should hope not. No, I've not had an ice cream. I've not had any sugar. Have you not? I've not had any alcohol. Oh, well done. And yeah, no desserts this week. This is it now. New me. Until? Don't know. Thursday. No, not Thursday, no.

No, get these couple of weeks out of the way. Well done. Thank you. Very good. I do appreciate that. I do. Did I tell you about that photo I took when I went past Monument? Oh yeah, I've just seen that, but what was that about?

I was walking to do a job in old Billingsgate Market. Lovely picture. We can pop this up on the Insta. Yeah, because that's going to see the light of day. Like the photo you put up the other day when we... When you did the Dubai one, and throughout the podcast, you're like, I'm going to put a picture up of that. I'll do a picture of it. No, I need to make notes.

You never do. All right, okay. So don't say we're going to put this up. All right. No, I'm going to put it in a folder. I might put the photo up. Don't worry. I will be good.

I will do it on at camera underscore mark. So hang on a second. Our friend Camilla. Yeah. Listen with the pod. Mm-hmm. Are you telling me she took the same photo? Yes.

Two years earlier on the same day Correct That's mad That is weird isn't it Yeah it's weird I mean arguably I prefer the angle of mine But she did take the same photo

Rude I quite like hers Yeah I like a diagonal I was doing on one But under vertical But yeah So yeah

That's weird isn't it That's very very strange We've got to put that up now Okay, well I've got a screen grab So again Why don't you just pop that over to Emma And she can do a little Put that up in the video

Whilst we're talking about it Alright, I'll do that, yeah Always thinking, always thinking Producers brain over here, you see, listens Right Getting used to the video thing People are really enjoying the video On Spotify

Lots of messages saying, I can't believe it You popped up, your face popped up And it wasn't a clip, I could watch it all Really enjoying it some people watching from their tellies, which is a bit scary. Bit worrying. Need to upgrade the cameras. I mean, we should be having makeup for this now.

Make up? You don't need makeup, darling. Okay. When I said we, I was thinking, I wasn't thinking of you, what men was? I meant the other,

me and Tony don't need makeup, right? But the other contributors. Why do women need makeup? Because you wear makeup. Very rarely. Only if I'm working. You know. what I mean.

Wait for the Women's Week. We'll enjoy that, listeners. Not as much as I'm going to enjoy Men's Week. What's you doing on your phone? I'm finding... It's ironic, really. Finding a message. Hey Nat and Mark, lush episodes.

You two are just getting better and better. I love how easy and just real you are with each other. Your conversations are naturally funny from one topic to another, just completely random rubbish to more serious stuff, just bloody awesome love you guys from Dagmar well it's a good job you played Dagmar's message out in this pod because you said

I don't mean you'd be allowed to put that out after this one I don't think it'll be relevant anymore shut up thank you Dagmar that is so nice isn't it my road where I grew up was Dagmar terrace so whenever I hear your name I think of my old home

which is nice We've got a question here from lovely Rosina Always messaging in Hi Nat and Mark My question is Will there be another pod show at Christmas Now that you're doing a panto Only I miss last year

I was at Canterbury Christmas Market And I couldn't make the show Congrats on the pantoneat So Rosina Don't know is the answer Don't think so I'm a little bit bogged down with a panto

Perhaps we could do something though Before I start the pantomime When would that be then? I believe the rehearsal start on the 21st of November So there is still time For a very early festive show I think so I mean let's be honest

You'd have the Christmas decorations out Probably four weeks before that Absolutely and I certainly will this year So I think Get Bonfire night out the way elbow guy forks any time after the 5th of November we're good to go

fair enough yeah good so we are doing one are we I would like to right I can't say yes we're doing one okay

got to talk to the people that sort out the shows haven't I okay well I'm just saying it it sounds like you would you just made a snap decision I would like to yeah

going back to that actually you know we were saying about people meeting up and how it's better to meet someone in person? Yes. I had a meeting in person tomorrow. Yeah.

And I've actually put it online. Yeah. Do you think that's a bad thing? Yes, if you didn't know the person, but you do, so I think it's fine. It's all right. And it's better for the environment, and you've got a tight schedule.

No, it just made me think when you were talking there about people and meeting up, I thought, oh, maybe... Well, I mean, lots of people used to work from my home and now they're back in the office again, aren't they? Yeah. Same sort of thing, I guess. I mean, there's loads of, Zoom is useful for doing meetings. Yeah.

But, I mean, really, you say, I'm going to do a Zoom. It's with one-to-one, just do a video call. I know. I know. Or just phone them. Yes. You know? Yeah. Yeah.

Interesting, isn't it? Interesting concept. It is, because we could just do a WhatsApp video call. Yes. I suppose so it's all logged in an email thread. So what I mean, it's probably a good thing. It's not legal, though, is it? You're not in trouble.

I don't know, yeah. No, hopefully not. This is a bit of a Opening a can of worms But I think this is what we should discuss Before we go Right For scraping the barrel

Could you stop moving your foot, darling? Sorry, my dad used to do it I know, I know I do it sometimes It depends on, it's nerves Yeah It also depends how you're sitting and stuff The old leg going

Yeah, that's what you thought it was Luckily I can see your hands Can now For the scraping the barrel Glasses have steamed up, I go. They've been quite steamy for a while actually. Steamy glasses. Sorry.

Right. That's better, I can't see everything. Right, for scraping the barrel, I wonder if you're a night owl or a lark. I'm a night owl and even more since I retired a few years ago, I'm 65. I'm the only owl in the household. My husband and my youngest daughter and her boyfriend are living with us at the moment whilst they get their new house sorted out.

I like to watch my soaps or any programmes that they consider shite, like married at first sight or BB, that sort of thing. So I can watch with the sound on low. And then when it's bedtime, I creep upstairs to bed by torchlight, brush my teeth with my manual toothbrush rather than the electric one and creep into bed. How consider it of you, Rosie? That is lovely. I'm going to stop the message there.

She has another question. But I find if I go to bed before you, which I would say that you are more of a night tail than I am. No, what it is, Natalie, it's we go to bed at the same time. You go upstairs and brush your teeth. And get into bed. I go around the whole house, locking doors, turning the lights off, washing up. Washing up?

Putting stuff in the dishwasher. Sorry. Hang on. I'm not having that. No, no, no. I beg you pardon? I've washed up your wine glasses before before going to bed and put them on a drainer.

Don't, honestly. Once or twice. I've done it a few times. Once or blooming twice. I bet I suddenly start walking upstairs and think, has a rabbit been fed? You have just done a picture. Sorry, sorry, we've got to go over that one.

You have created a picture that every dinner time there are loads of dirty plates left in the sink that you wash up or put in the dishwasher before we go to bed. That is a man. vision for people. And that is not true listeners.

Who do you think I'm Rembrandt? I've just said to wash up a glass. Painting a picture? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? I just said there's a glass or two. Anyway, going around the house, you get the idea.

I do. Packing my bag, making sure I've got stuff ready for the mornings. I've got to get up early and feeding the rabbits. The garage doors open. I realise that as I go upstairs and I can see out the window, go back outside. Yeah. So, yeah, by the time I get into bed, you're asleep.

Or... Well, time, Bjorn, by the way. Very good. Or I'm trying to. And then it's clon, clon, clon, clon, clon, clon. Yeah. Light on. Electric toothbrush is used, Rosie. Bar from light on.

And then it's into bed. Then it's into bed for this. That was very much like the... Blue light on. I sit there like this. I have to dovo over me. So I don't want to see any blue light, before I go to bed, you see.

Or me. Or in the morning. Blue light. If the blue lights are on, I don't want it. It does make you feel better that, everyone. Don't be on your phone of an evening. Or in the morning as soon as you wake up. I know that we've got alarms,

but I just swipe mine. Turn it that way. Good for you. When my alarm goes off, the first thing I have to do is turn my phone on to look at the traffic. I know you do. Right.

You're a trooper, aren't you? Yeah, I do. Not everyone has to walk like three metres down the hallway to come in their podcast studio to go to work. And on the other days, what am I up to? I don't know. I'm interested. For the last couple of days, what I've been doing.

I haven't been here. I have actually been working from home. I've left you. Hang on a minute. You've been working for home. Wait a second. So also, from my point of view, I'm getting up in the morning.

You are. I'm pretty quiet in the morning. Unlike the three. Friday when I had to drive to Scotland. Did I mention I had to drive to Scotland? You did mention it a couple of times, yeah. Friday morning, I've got a long drive ahead of me. You're bashing about things.

It was like five in the morning. What were you on? What was it? That's something early in the morning. Yeah, I can't remember now. Anyway, thanks for that. I know, it's pitch black. I've got to put a light on.

I've got to see what I'm doing. Yeah, so Going back to Rosie I'm not very considerate in the morning And you're not overly considerate in the evening But we make it work We make it work She's got another question here

Would Mark Now that he's practically a celebrity With a laughing face Ever consider increasing his fan base By doing a joint venture with you Like celebrity race across the world Or does he prefer to remain under the radar-ish.

That's from Rosie as well. Fancy it. Celebrity race across the world. How logistically would that work? You don't know until you get on it because you can use a train, a boat. Just thinking about that show. No, Natalie.

You know those little people that we shared a house with for the one that's an absolute pain and the other one that's also a bit of a pain? Yes. They have to get fed, watered, driven to school. If we went off for six months It's not six months How logistically does it work? It's about six weeks

Okay Yeah let's just go off Can you imagine We don't even get a one night away somewhere Darling That's why I've asked you I would never in a million years At the moment

Leave the children for six weeks It would be wild However Can you imagine you and I doing it Let's say that they're older I can Yeah But the thing with that

I'd be terrified No, I do something like that But also, it's an interesting one Because it's not It's almost Secondary But it's on the telly That's an interesting question

As in terms of, like, it's an interesting program to have picked Yes Because it's not like, you know, you see these I mean, I can think of a couple at a moment that are desperate To try to try and increase one of their...

Who? I can't talk about this. Oh, no, you can. Go on. I definitely can't. Oh, go on. No, I can't. Oh, what a shame. That was a bit of juicy gossip there.

No, but there's a couple of which one of them is very well known, and the other one isn't, and they're very much trying to raise the profile of one that isn't, and it's so cringy. Oh. It's awkward. We'll have a load of text. You can guess who it is.

Have a guess. I'll have a guess. Am I mute this? And no video, no video, ready? No, I mean, you could put that in. No, I'm not putting that in. No, I'm not going to tell you. I'm not even saying.

Oh, crying out loud. You haven't, it looks your Instagram today, obviously. No. I think you're right, it is secondary. Yes. Because you really involved, you're completely in it. Scott Mills did it with his husband. Yeah.

And he said, you're just having the best. time in all these exotic places learning to get somewhere. You really are concentrating on what you're doing. You're not going to look at me. It's not like a quiz show or a... No. I don't know. Big brother or something like that.

No. But also, it's no different... I mean, the whole celebrity thing's an interesting one because, like, I think... Darling, it doesn't take much anymore to be a celebrity. No, I know. It doesn't, unfortunately. It doesn't know, babe. No, it does. You are verging...

Absolutely not. No, you are. Absolutely not. There are people in the UK that know you from the pod. Yeah, not many. No, not many. No, but also, no, no, no, no. Let me, for a second to me.

Yeah. Right. It's different, very, very different. Your podcast. Yeah. This podcast is your podcast. Yeah. The listeners love having an insight into your life.

And therefore, I understand the fact that they like hearing the contributions from members of your family. Yeah. That's, I mean, it's pretty obvious, the whole model, how it all works. Yeah, yeah. And I totally understand that. I love speaking to the listeners, and I've met the listeners in person now and what have you.

When I have those conversations with the listeners, there isn't any, it's not because of, it's not us. Oh, no, I disagree with you now. I think that there are some real fans that have listened from day one, that if I died tomorrow, they would expect, in my honour, and so they still had life with Nat, for you, the nieces, Lynne, Tony,

to still do this podcast, even if it was once a week, they would miss the podcast without me. That's a lovely idea, but I think that's probably four of them, and I don't think it would be, I don't think it'd be financially viable. Just saying.

Just as somebody... And I'm being honest. Full of the old positivity. I'm being respectful and I'm being honest. And yeah, you are right, actually, regarding this. Celebrity is a funny word. You've got your own interpretation of that word. Everyone, that means...

I don't class myself as a celebrity. That means something different to everybody. It does, but I class myself as someone who has worked in the entertainment and television industry for over 30 years. So you're very much in the public eye? Yeah, but I don't... All this celebrity stuff, not really bobbed. It's very nice.

When you are as known as me, you can do things that, like the campaign I did, lovely, that I can do something to sort of raise a little campaign's profile and do things I really enjoy to do. But I don't, if tomorrow, no one recognised me ever again, it wouldn't be the end of the world for me.

Because I still talk to everyone anyway, so it's irrelevant. Yeah, I'm a bit confused about what you mean by that. because, yeah. I mean, it doesn't make sense what I'm saying because that's never going to happen. I suppose I can't remember not being recognised, can I? So it's a bit weird for me.

No, but also, celebrity is, what does that word mean then? What is the definition of it? Celebrity is someone who people know from doing something. But that can now be... But is it from a talent? No, not really. Celebrity to me isn't, and I've done Celebrity Big Brother, I've done, you know, I've done things which have celebrity in them.

But I think in this day and age now, you've got to say singer, film actress, TV star, you know, those sorts of things. But it's a really interesting subject. The dictionary definition of celebrity is a famous person, especially in entertainment or sport. Oh, fair enough. Fair enough.

So I am most certainly not a celebrity. I'm not very good at sport. And I doubt very much his class as entertainment. And I do feel that that's a fair point. And I do think it's very important to be, you know. Well, she's just saying that me and you could do a problem. We could do race across the world. She's excused herself, but she put a laughing face after it, so that's fair enough.

She did. I know she didn't take it seriously. But we could do celebrity race across the world. But we wouldn't because of our children's ages. I could do, I could do celebrity race across the world because I happen to be with a celebrity, which is meant to entitles me to the program. Yes. Yes.

Yes. But I couldn't go and do it on my own. Not yet. No. No. No, don't think that would ever be a case. When you've got your 7.5 inch gauge steam engine podcast, and that goes through the roof, you might be able to go on on your own.

Well, I joined the 7.5 inch society the other day. Well done. Is it just about the size of railway track? Yeah. And they've got just over 1,000 members. So podcast-wise, I don't know if that's really going to cut the mustard. That's going to be a tricky one.

Still think you should have a look into it. Yeah. Because I reckon all of them would listen to it. That's a niche one. Yeah. Generally, there is a railway podcast, I believe. You could do a railway podcast, yeah. It's a big subject.

Get that guy on that I like. Francis. What's your second name? Francis. I can't pronounce it. But Francis. Bajua? Yes, that's it.

Do you realize? Go on. Have you heard about his new job? What's he doing? Amazon's The Grand Tour. He's one of the presenters. Stop it. Not with Jeremy Clarkson?

He's replacing Clarkson. Oh, is he? He's too busy on the old fields. Yeah, he is. He's joining James Engelsman. But birthing picklets. But this is the thing, right? This says a lot.

I know, Francis. No, you don't. I know who he is. Oh, sorry, I thought you meant you knew him. Oh, you could know him. That could be quite viable thing. He joins presenters James Engelsman. Yeah.

And Thomas Holland. I don't know them. No. There you go. Interesting. Interesting point there. If you would have spoken to me seven, eight years ago, maybe you've written less than that.

Maybe five or six years ago. I would have sat here and been moaning, going all these Instagrammers, think they're famous. I think it's settled out now, though. No, because people that... have millions of followers from doing Instagram. They've captured something. Yes.

It's like a TV channel. Yes. And they've captured something. And whatever they do is a popular thing for a lot of people, millions of people sometimes. Absolutely right. So years ago, for instance, I did Luke Hamnett's pod. Six years ago, I probably would have turned my nose up

and God, I ain't doing all Instagram-y things. But I actually appreciate that Luke works very hard. Whether you like it or not, you can say what talent he's got, you do whatever. But the videos he puts out every day, what he does is content, he's working hard,

and he has captured an audience, the same as, how about G.K. Barry? Because I think she started, again, I'm so old, but I think G.K. Barry started TikToking and all of that. Amazing.

What she's done is amazing. So, no, I have actual respect for these Instagrammers that work very hard and have gained a large, following, because it is a job now. And also they're normally quite talented. Yeah.

In what they do, I would say. But I do think there was a period of time where it got a bit silly, like previously. I think it's filtered through now. I think now you've got some people that are really good and get it and get it as a format almost. Yeah. And are quite, you know, quite addictive to watch. Which is, funnily enough, exactly how this, you know, going back 30 minutes ago,

what we were talking about in terms of getting sort of hooked onto things. But there's no doubt. about it, people latch onto these things and these people are becoming known. You've only got to look at a line up on Strictly. Yes. It's classic, isn't it? YouTube. Which one's a professional?

I haven't got a clue. Well, no, but I'm the same with a few of them. But there you go. I used to work with Make a Wish charity. And every year they used to film about 10 wishes. and I can't remember when I first started doing these maker wishes but when we first started doing them it was all sort of mainstream celebrities

but by the time I sort of stopped doing them sort of three or four years down the line it was all gamers it was the gaming channels on YouTube where people play a game that's the funny one you've got these celebrities and they play computer games and you're watching someone play

now that is where I think right okay that's not But there's millions of people Is it the game they're interested That they're playing Or is it the person talking Probably a bit of both

Maybe However someone like Francis They've done something It appeals to people People want to see more of it It's something they want to sort of Keep consumed I think he's great

I'd love him on the pod I'd like to do a scrape in the barrel With Francis That would be super If anyone knows Francis Can you get in touch 0778-28-201919. Maybe I'll just message him on Instagram.

Yeah, I'll follow him and see if he can follow me back. Yeah, I mean, he's, yeah. Yeah, should. Have we go. Yeah. Surprise he hasn't done a podcast. I mean, that'll be my next one. Oh, yeah, I'm sure he will be, yeah.

Start doing that now. But my railway podcast will be out of the window. Sort of. He's not interested in the little gauges, is he? Has you been to any miniature? I don't think so. No. No.

So? There's a few good people actually that do the YouTube sort of videos. There's one who takes it very seriously, who does actual reviews of miniature railways. But it's really popular. Something you could look into. But you could get one of those cameras on your head like Francis. Yeah, and then you can't.

But then you're just copying him. You can't do that. No, you're copying him. And I think it would be so blatantly obvious, wouldn't it? If you stuck a camera on your head and you, it's such a... Yes. His USP.

Yeah, yeah. That it would be mad to do that. Yeah. So there you are. Yeah. We will finish on this. Hi, Nat and all your lovely family. I just wanted to get in touch to say

how excited I am to be coming to see you in Manchester on the 7th of March. I've loved listening to the pod and feeling like I've gotten to know you all over the months. The pod is just hilarious, but also so warm and genuine. I'm going to be faulty this year like Ro Roe, and as a celebration, I've decided instead of a party, which isn't really my sort of thing, I'm going to do 40 nice things over this year and then run up to my birthday in December, and next year when I'm actually in my 40th year. The list is full of small and big things, some just simple things like going for a picnic with my husband on a sunny day.

Others are bigger things like I'm hoping to enter the Race for Life event next year after a few years of having mobility difficulties, following a car accident. But the first thing that went on my list was booking tickets to the live pod. I can't wait to kick off my 40 nice things with you, sending you lots of love and thanks for all the laughs from Lisa in Lancaster, up north. Lisa, I cannot wait to see you on Saturday.

You might have to get up on stage and have a little selfie. Oh, well, hopefully she'll be looking forward to that. Hope so. I'd be petrified. If she'd like said, I'm going to get you up on the stage. Nice memory, isn't it, a little selfie on the stage? Yeah, or maybe afterwards. Maybe when you're not on the...

Possibly. Possibly. I mean, you never know. She might be a bit of a fespian. She might love it. Start getting up there and quoting Shakespeare at me. Maybe, yeah. Maybe.

You never know. So, Manchester on Saturday, yeah. Leads the following... 22nd. That's not the following Saturday. No, a little week break. And then...

You've got a week break of you? Yeah. It's a real shame. I've really enjoyed doing it. the live shows. Bristol. I was doing Bristol, yeah. That's the last one.

Right. And I'm hoping nearly everyone's going to be there. Saturday is myself, Linny and Ro Roe. Leeds is me, Linny and Ells. There have been some really girly ones,

but they're really nice, actually. They are. They're really warm, really nice. They get a bit saucy. It's quite nice. They get a bit saucy. I'm going to say, in fact,

They don't get saucy I talk about our sex life a bit more in the shows I'm going to throw it out there I really don't think that's very fair And that's how Linda looks at me when I talk about it Exactly as you are now And why are you doing that? Not in a graphic way at all

But because it's live What you get when you come to a live show It's not recorded It's in the room You're meant to be trying to sell the idea It's in the room So you can just relax a bit more, which is nice.

All right, great. But I think you've just put off a whole load of people. No, I'm not a set... I'm not going to go into what I said, but it's not rude in any way. Right. I can't believe that. I'm pleased I don't go to them. There we go. Nothing for you

to worry about. I'm genuinely concerned about that. Oh no, you can have a chat with Linda about it, but it's nothing to be concerned about, I promise. On that note, thank you. I love you. I need to get on the phone to Scotland. he needs to sort of this contract out of me. This is ridiculous. Seriously.

Unbelievable. Coming from the I'm not a celebrity. He wants to phone my agent, everyone. Yeah, who's kind of looking after me because I don't have a clue what I'm doing and I've just found out that you're like talking about me on a live show. I talk about you all the time.

Great. I can't believe that. Anyway, if you'd like to hear anything, get a ticket. I will speak to you on Monday. Have a lovely weekend. Oh, 7-8-28-20, 1919. Thank you all so much for listening. It means the world as always.

Mark, I'll talk to you soon, my angel, on here. You will. Thank you so much. You're welcome. I'm going to bed now. I was just waiting to see if he'd say love you before I said it. But he hasn't. So see you, everyone.

Bye. Bye.