Life with Nat - EP228: Tony talks #21 - Nat to bring back the generation game!

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

Nat and her brother Tony discuss 90s Saturday night TV, the return of some classics and of course have their say on the new strictly hosts. They discuss competition winners and answer some of the list...ener questions. And there’s a few bricks through the windows also… Get in touch with Nat, buy tickets for upcoming live shows and find the family on Instagram: https://lifewithnatpod.komi.io/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to Life with Nat on this glorious Thursday. I hope everybody is having a fantastic week. It's been a bit of a day. I'm joined by my lovely brother Tony for a Tony Talks. How you doing? I'm not too bad. Good. Yeah, very good.
Starting point is 00:00:29 I'm feeling a little bit sorry for myself at the moment. Why? So I had a bit of a cold last week. Yeah. Which is nothing. Man flu. Yeah, I mean, you know, I was quite surprised because it was May. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:39 I sort of got through the whole of the dreaded January, February, March, without one. I thought, ha ha ha ha, I've sussed it. I've not got, I've not had a cold this winter. Then get one in May, you know, so anyway, so I had a bit of a stinking cold. And then I woke up Friday morning. Yeah. And it felt like I'd been smashed in the face with a frying pan. What'd you done?
Starting point is 00:01:00 No, it turns out. Sleep walking, no. It turns out I've got all my sinuses all up to shoot. I've got sinusitis, basically. It's, it. I've never had it before. It's the pits. The pain, I just can't tell you the pain.
Starting point is 00:01:16 No, I know. It's right there, and it's a cross between someone trying to pull your teeth out, someone's sticking a dart up your nose. It's so true. And then smash someone smashing your face with a mallet at the same time. Oh, bless you. So I'm going to do my best. I'm going to soldier on.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Thank you for coming up. That's all right. It's a pleasure. I was never going to miss it. Oh, God. But if I sort of go a bit wonky off I'm through, that's what it is. It's a sign of a son of something. Like us kicking in.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Oh, God. Well, I was going to say you look really well. Thanks very much. So, there you go. Much appreciated. No bullshit in either. I thought when you came in, you looked quite well. That's great.
Starting point is 00:01:53 I obviously looked really well on four hours sleep and loads of pain. You have been fishing, though? I have. Which is excellent news. I've been twice in the last couple of weeks. I've got some new pain relief for the old back. Yep. Got these patches, Nova cane, I think they're called.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Right, right. So you put them on sort of an hour before you, I'll get up early in the morning when I go, if you put them on. and then it gives you a general, sorry, a local, not general, your sleep, gives you a local anaesthetic in the area where you've got the problem, which I have sort of lower right side of my back stroke hip. And fingers crossed, I've been able to fish, like fish the match for five, six hours or whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:34 And I'm still in pain, but I'm in no worse pain when I finished and when I started. So it's worth it, isn't it? Which is quite major for me, yeah. And I think the spring in your step is you going back to doing something that you really enjoy. Yeah, maybe, yeah. I do. It gives you different outlook. We have to talk about that because we spoke ages ago about hobbies and passions and how important we are.
Starting point is 00:02:57 And then you stopped doing yours. Enforced, it wasn't. No, that's what I'm saying. You had no choice. But how lovely that you've been in a couple of weeks. You've seen your friends. Yeah. You've spent time out.
Starting point is 00:03:09 That's right. Yeah. And I'm just doing stuff other than work. Yeah. And sort of mundane stuff. So, yeah, very important. I'm pleased. I'm sort of crossing my fingers.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I'm hoping that it carries on like this. And now for me it's just about managing the pain. Yeah, absolutely. It's never going to get any better. Yeah. But if I can find a way of managing it so I can do what I want to do within reason, then I'll take that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. Well, my care documentary comes out this Monday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm really excited about that. Thanks for everyone's messages. Lots of people are looking forward to it, so I'm really pleased.
Starting point is 00:03:43 I bet they cut me out. No, I think you're in there. Really? I think you're in there. They've had to do a lot of heavy editing, actually. I remember you saying, yeah. But no, I think you've made the cut. That's good.
Starting point is 00:03:55 But the people that I saw through that program and what people go through, you don't realize. I know it sounds so silly, but we all live our lives. And yes, we have an understanding of things. but there was one couple I met, Lisa and Gary, and I spent a day with them. Gary is a home carer for Lisa.
Starting point is 00:04:15 And I won't go into it all. No. But they were me and Mark's age. And she has MS. And their whole life is Gary caring for her every single day. That's their life. There's nothing else. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:31 But they were positive, happy, having a laugh. And I genuinely came out of their, going, I can't believe how lucky I am. That's just people's disposition, though, isn't it? I mean, look like there's people that are, yeah, I know what you're saying, but people like the two you're talking about, would find probably happiness and positivity in any situation. It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Yeah, yeah. It's amazing, yeah. I just sat there. I mean, there's a part of it. I'll break down because we go to the MS Center, and it's where Gary, you can tell he loves her so much, and she's beautiful. She's in this pool
Starting point is 00:05:08 and with a kind of, you know, physiotherapist or whatever you want to, you know, in the water. And he's just going, oh, look at my Lisa, and she's beautiful or whatever. I just went, this is not fair. And he said, life's not fair, that, you know. But it's his place to leave her and he goes and does some rock climbing with his friends.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Yeah. Which, sorry, which is getting around to it. Yeah, he has a few hours respite because that's his whole life. But yeah, it's, yeah, incredible. I'm really looking forward to you seeing it. Yeah. It's going to be good.
Starting point is 00:05:40 It's going to be good. But like you say, going out and doing things sometimes, you think, oh, I won't bother or I do. I think, oh, could meet my mate for a walk, but I've got this to do, that to do. Then you go and have a two-hour walk with your friend and you just feel brand new again. Yeah, yes, right.
Starting point is 00:05:56 It's so important. It's very easy to entrench, isn't it? And just sort of just get very setting your ways and not wanting to do stuff. Yeah. I've noticed that over the last year. I mean, even going back fishing, It sounds ridiculous, but, you know, you're a little bit apprehensive.
Starting point is 00:06:10 I mean, you know, I just, I think, can I be bothered? I actually felt, you know, it's been so long since I've been, and it's quite a, it's quite an effort to go. It's not, you know, we've got tons of gear and it's not, you know, it's not how people think you've got a little stool and a fishing rod and some worms. It's sort of, if you saw the gear we carry and, you know, an amount of preparation you do and that sort of stuff because it's competitive and whatnot. And I did think, oh, I don't know if I felt be bothered.
Starting point is 00:06:34 but I'm glad you've sort of got to not think like that and think, no, you've got to do this, you've really got to get back on the horse. Yeah. Whatever it is. Well, yeah. And even going out sometimes, I think I can't be bothered. I get invited, and it's terrible, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:06:51 But I reckon I get invited to two or three things a week, the opening of something. Not an envelope, but quite nice openings. Yeah, quite nice stuff, yeah, yeah. Theatre shows. I just don't go. No, but you can't. But then I can't do everything.
Starting point is 00:07:09 You can't do everything. No, no. And some things I will do, but also I don't want to be that person who's everything, getting photographed all the time. It's just not me, isn't it? And then I think should I do a bit more of that to network, but really?
Starting point is 00:07:24 There's always middle ground somewhere, there's always a balance to be struck in all of that stuff. Years ago, when I was in the office, when I was a surveyor in the office and whatever else. Once you get to quite a senior level, you get invited to loads of stuff, loads of stuff,
Starting point is 00:07:37 you know, different doos and nights out and people want to take your restaurants, take your way for weekends, playing golf, and all this sort of stuff, because they can get work off you. Yeah, yeah, of course. They're just want to try and cozy up to you and get work off. Oh, it's like James, Dom, or here.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Exactly, yeah, yeah. And it's quite, to start with, it's, you know, it's quite nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then after, you know, after you've done the 15th cocktail party, holding one glass of wine talking about the same old crap to everybody, you realise it's not quite as great as it's made out to be.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Yeah, same sort of thing, so there's a balance somewhere. Pick and choose, what you think is the right stuff, personally, professionally. What goes with your life, isn't it? And some people love it. There's no right or wrong. No, no, no. Some people make it make them happy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:22 They want to be out every night. Every night, yeah. Great. Yeah, good luck to them, yeah. But whatever's good for your wellbeing, that's the thing. Yeah. from a lovely lady and I thought
Starting point is 00:08:34 I will talk to you about this because I know that you do wake up in the night and stuff like that aw right yeah woke up in the middle of the night having a panic attack my son has gone on his first residential with school and it's hit me hard
Starting point is 00:08:49 any tips for middle of the night waking I feel so lonely in the night it's so hard sorry no real point to this message just wanted to get it out there Leanne well there is a point Leanne because you felt compelled to
Starting point is 00:09:01 message. The reason I've asked Tony to do this one is Linda wakes up, Auntie Linney wakes up all the time in the night, but she just watches series and box sets and films, which I didn't think was a great choice. So let's see what Tony does in the middle of the night. Yeah, so night terrors, whatever you want to call it. Sunday nights used to be bad for me with the week coming up because you wouldn't work for yourself and nowhere to hide, you know, and you've... And then I sort of, I read some staff and... and, you know, and sort of took some advice on and whatever. So the bottom line is really, when you're waking up in the middle of night, it's an anxiety thing, you're worrying about stuff. So number one, you got to remember that 95% of things you worry about will never, ever happen. The 5% will happen will not happen in the way that you think they're going to happen.
Starting point is 00:09:51 And the stuff that bites you on the ass, you've got no idea is coming. So number one, worrying about stuff is pointless. And you have to, that's a really important thing, number one. Number two, you can literally just lay down and think, do you know what? I've come this far. I've done this before. I've got through it.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I've been all right. I've been okay. I am okay. And you just reassure yourself. Do you know what? It's going to be all right. This is going to be okay. Light on, book out, radio on, break the dark.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Some people say break the dark. Break the dark and break the silence. Some people say get up. Get up. Don't they? Don't stay in the room. Don't stay up. Just get up, go downstairs.
Starting point is 00:10:39 If it's that bad. Have a glass of water. Get up. Make a cup of tea. Yeah. Whatever. A barbine and walk. Break that cycle.
Starting point is 00:10:47 The worst thing you can do is, for my experience, if it's bad, is to lay there and let it just go over and over in your brain. Sometimes just turning the bedside light on. And if you've got a radio, you put radio on low. Yeah. Or you've got a book or you've got a magazine. Podcast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Yeah. Podcast. Yeah. Possibly. Well, yeah. I suppose you could. And I think that, again, it breaks that cycle because, listen, silence and your own self is an awful place to be sometimes.
Starting point is 00:11:26 You know, I'll go to work and I cannot work in silence. I have to have my radio one. Doesn't matter what's on it. Yeah, but you're like that indoors as well. You like the tele on, don't you? We've got to have the tele on, we've got to have a radio on. Like, we've very often in our house, we'll have the telly on in the living room, the kitchen, the bedroom.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Yeah, it's mad to me. And they're just on. So I get it. I can't do silence. I'm completely the opposite. Yeah. You'll know, you'll walk in. Oh, yeah, it's quite as a grave, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:55 And I love my music. I love my radio when I want it on. Never would I put the telly on during the day. if I'm in the kitchen I would put the radio on but I often and people say it people will come around
Starting point is 00:12:11 and I go God, isn't it quiet in here? But that's I think maybe a mum thing It might be I think that's slightly different That's sort of the way you've been brought up But for me It was like that at home and I didn't like it I don't like silence
Starting point is 00:12:24 And if I'm, you know My brain just goes overdrive If everything's silent and whatever So again you know You wake up, you're laying now you've got to break it. So you either, it's a number of things. You tell yourself all the things you're worrying about
Starting point is 00:12:39 never going to happen because they're not, guarantee it, unless you know it's going to happen. Yeah, then you've got. If something's nailed on, you know, if you've got to go to court the next morning, you never, you know, you're going to court the next morning. I don't mean that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:52 But worrying about random stuff, it just doesn't happen. And it is hard when you, you know, your child is going on their first trip, they're away from you. Yeah. You're thinking everything, aren't you? Yeah. In that moment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Yeah, again, I completely understand that. Absolutely completely understand that. You worry about them and all the rest of it. That's a specific issue that you're quite, I think, you're well within your rights to be anxious about. But if we're talking about the general, you know, the general stuff, you know, the laying awake at night, the darkness and whatever, then break it.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Tell yourself it's going to be fine because you've beat it before, you've done it before, you've done it hundreds of times before, and you'll do it again. and all I know is when I have nights like that, as soon as it's light and I'm up, it's completely different. I agree. You know, so if it's bad, then light on, get up,
Starting point is 00:13:43 go to Lou, make a cup of tea, sit down. You see, I have, like, as you know, I sleep very, very well. Very well. But I often will wake up with sleep paralysis. Oh, you mentioned this before. So sleep paralysis is one of the most scary things. Well, you can't move? Yeah, you're bringing.
Starting point is 00:14:00 brain has woken up, but there's a part of you, your body can't move. So you're absolutely desperate to even lift a finger and you can't do it. He ain't been at it with a duct tape again, Mark, has he? That's what that is. He's got you duct taped up. And then he tells you sleep paralysis. And you believe him. No, it must be quite frightening. It's really frightening. The closest I came to that was at Christmas. I'd had a drink the night as you do, that's Christmas. And I took some codeine for me back. Yeah, great.
Starting point is 00:14:33 And they sort of reacted badly. Yeah. And I went to bed and I literally, I was like a mummy. I couldn't move, but my eyes, I just couldn't move any muscle in my body. It's sort of like everything shut down. It was the most strangest feeling ever. Well, it's a bit like that.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Right. But it's really, really scary. Yeah. And it's probably about a minute. But I have to, you have to talk yourself out of it. Of course, yeah, yeah. I was going to have heart attack. You really do.
Starting point is 00:14:59 No, you know what this is? It'll be right. Be fine, be fine, be fine, be fine. It's horrid. It's horrid. Let me know if you've had sleep paralysis. 0-7-8-20-19-19. I'd like to have a chat about that with someone
Starting point is 00:15:11 because if you haven't had it, you don't understand. I've not met anyone who's had it before. So let me know. Or if the old man's been on the duct tape, taping you to bed and stuff. Terrible that is. Only on a Friday. Bank holiday.
Starting point is 00:15:28 A bank holiday Friday, yeah. Oh, don't. Yeah, bank holiday. Oh. Before we carry on, massive news. Go on. Massive news today. You know what I'm going to say?
Starting point is 00:15:45 I don't know. War's over in Ukraine. I don't know. Something important. No, it's not that important. New presenters of Strictly Come Dancing. Oh, yeah, yeah. So we've got Johannes.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Which I understand. Brilliant. Emma Willis. Yeah, amazing, professional. Josh Whittaker. Who hated it, apparently. Josh, he said, didn't he? He said, I'm this middle-aged bloke.
Starting point is 00:16:10 It was really rubbish at dance. He loved it, though. He loves the show. And he was dressed as a penguin. Yeah. And he does talk about it a lot. I think it's a very clever choice. Josh did come in for me, and I was like,
Starting point is 00:16:25 where has that come from? Because he hasn't been a part of the show for a long time. so someone like Rylan, for instance, who's done it takes turn and whatever you. I thought it would be Emma and Rilin. That was what my money was on. But I think nice, be different. I wonder if Josh is going to be like upstairs.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I don't know. Will he take on the sort of the Brucey role maybe? What did Brucey used to do? Was he, he was downstairs? He was downstairs? No, no, there was no upstairs. Oh, there wasn't an upstairs. So it was just...
Starting point is 00:16:57 Just downstairs? Just downstairs, see. But I don't, I wonder what's going to happen there. I reckon Johannes might be upstairs. Do you? See, I see Emma and Johannes downstairs, Josh upstairs doing the banter. It's going to be a really interesting one.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I did message all of them when I found out because Johannes I did the sewing bee with. Yes, of course. And we had a lovely couple of days together. Yeah. And I think the biggest thing for me, seeing those three names, It's three really nice people. Nice people, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:33 And I thought, well, actually, it's just really nice. I agree. I mean, I think it's a really nice thing. I mean, I messaged all of them, and they all messaged me back and said, who the fuck are you, basically. Which, I suppose, I could understand that. I mean, it didn't help that the message was wrapped in a brick,
Starting point is 00:17:49 and I chucked it through their bedroom windows. Silly. Oh, don't. Yeah, no, it's nice. Did they get back to you? I messaged Emma, and she said, thanks Gorge and she said, sorry I ignored your last message, which was hope the speculation is true.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Right. So that was really nice. And Johannes is yet to get back. Can you imagine they're being in undated with people? Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. And their acquaintances, not friends. I mean, it's the gig, isn't it? It's the, like, it's one of.
Starting point is 00:18:18 After the Claudia in her country gearing the traitors, it's the next gig, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. So it's brilliant. I did message Josh, though, and I did say, was Ramesh busy? I had to do it because he's the busiest man in telly, old Rom. I know he is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe he's... Well, I don't, but he seems to be everywhere, so bless him. But I hope he's not offended by that joke. No, he won't be, he won't be fine. But no, I thought, wow, it's a good line-up. I'm looking forward to seeing how they do it. And it did need a shake-up.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Yeah, it's a bit of nude blood, isn't it? And as you say, yeah, it's going to be interesting for the first series that they do it just to see how it all works and chemistry and all that and stuff. So. That's very good, very good. The other thing that was cast in this week I saw in the press was James Bond. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:19:06 James Bond. Are you a James Bond fan? Well, I am, but I could be a bit. I'm not really, I wasn't really a Daniel Craig fan. I think that's fine to say. Not as a man. You know, I'm sure he's a very, very, very lovely man. Very, very, very, very, very nice man.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Very, very, very nice man. Daniel, if you're listening, I'm sure you're a very nice man. But so I saw a couple of the Daniel Craig ones And I wasn't too struck on them But then I watched Skyfall Like Skyfall was very good I think where MISC got blew up I can't remember
Starting point is 00:19:39 And the last one where he died Not because he died But I thought that was a very good film Whatever that was called last one But I mean I'm not a massive James Bond fan Yeah well you got to remember When I grew up
Starting point is 00:19:50 Yeah It was literally it was to carry on films James Bond Yeah yeah yeah Who was your favourite? Sean Connery All day long Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:58 For me. See, Pierce Brosnan for me was my, I remember going to a premiere of it. Yeah, because it's of your time.
Starting point is 00:20:05 It was sort of of my time, so I quite like those. And I did like a couple of the Daniel Craig ones, but I haven't watched all of them, I'm not going to lie. But when they talk about it, in the picture that I saw,
Starting point is 00:20:16 it was three actors. I don't watch a lot of films, as you know, but very young, that was a bit disappointing because I really, really want Idris. But I think he might be getting on now.
Starting point is 00:20:27 And I'm not saying, Idris, I don't, I'm not saying that. But in the, you don't know what you're reading, it could be a load of rubbish. But they were saying they're going for a really young person, i.e. It's the 20s. And I thought, well, that's Idris out of picture. Yeah, I mean, I think what it is with Idris. It'd be brilliant.
Starting point is 00:20:45 I think people have been talking about it for so long. Yeah. I'm not sure if there was a point where they weren't sure if Daniel Craig was going to carry on. And I think you might have signed another three film deal or something like a good few years ago. Yeah, I agree. think they were talking about Idris then. Yes. I mean, I'm right up for it, for Idris.
Starting point is 00:21:01 You know what I mean? I think he'd be brilliant. Brilliant. But, yeah. But if it goes to some, I think he, who did I see? There's a bloke who's in a Jaguar advert, drives a Jaguar up some steps. What, an actor?
Starting point is 00:21:14 A Land Rover, yeah, he's an actor. Okay. Blue Lamb Rover, he drives up some steps, and there's this beautiful lady waiting for him in this big house. Don't know his name, don't know anyone's names. But I've seen him in a couple of things, and I thought he'd be quite a good James Bond. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:21:30 But are they definitely casting it then, or is that? Apparently so. I mean, again, it could be all shit. You could. Just saw it on Instagram. Yeah, just making it up. Like the cobblers. I did.
Starting point is 00:21:41 When I saw it, I thought, I'd really love, I would like to see Idris as James Bond. Listen, I agree, but I think he's been, it just seems to me his name's been mentioned so much over the years. It's almost like he's been James Bond. He's been James Bond. Yeah, and he's gone, Or he's, I've offered it, he's gone, look, I'm just sick of you talking about it.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I don't want it. Leave me alone, go, I. You know, I've sounded him out, and he's gone, no, not interested. It's a possibility. Do me DJing and the other stuff, you know. Yeah, it's true. It's true. Cool dude.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Yeah. Patsy Palmer always said he was lovely. They DJed together a few times. Oh, really, yeah. It's just really normal down to earth, like a really nice bloke. Yeah, I've never met him. Maybe if I chuck a brick through one of his windows. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Send him a message. Yeah, because I haven't got any phone numbers, you see, so I've got the other ways. Understood. Could you not use pigeons rather than bricks? They're very expensive. Fair enough. Oh, good pigeons.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Thousands of pounds. Fred down the road's got pigeons, actually. Yeah, I bet they're a lot of money someone. Yeah, really, you know. And also you have a lot of bricks laying about? I do, yeah. Yeah. And bits of paper.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Makes sense, didn't it? Crayons and stuff we use. Easy, constant, very cheap. Find out where they live, it's job done. Brilliant. We had a pigeon in our garden the other day. Yeah. A pure white wood pigeon was in a little.
Starting point is 00:22:55 our garden and couldn't fly. Oh, what did you do? Did you look for a number? No, we took it, we ended up, there was a, crows were trying to get it. Oh, they're fuckers, aren't they? Yeah, they're bastards, I ate them. Yeah, I had Sharon screaming.
Starting point is 00:23:07 It was, I think it was Monday morning. I heard Sharon screams, so I'd run down, I thought it was a, I don't what had happened. I thought someone was trying to get in the house or aliens had landed. Yeah. So we found a box, got a couple of dog blankets, and I managed to get the pigeon.
Starting point is 00:23:19 It was beautiful. I mean, it was pure white. It was like a dove. Yes, yes. It was really unusual. unusual, really unusual. So I wrapped it, got it in a blanket, put it in the box, and then we took it to Trent Park.
Starting point is 00:23:31 There's an animal sanctuary there. Oh, okay, good. So we took it to Trent Park and gave it to them with a little donation for it to be treated. And interestingly enough, I mean, I didn't know if I did the right thing anyway, but the girl said you'd done exactly the right thing because what kills pigeons the most is they die of fright. So she said, if you'd have put it in the box without covering it in a blanket,
Starting point is 00:23:52 it would have probably died of fright. Oh. Yeah. So I did the right thing. Oh, well done. Yeah, yeah. That's a lovely thing. It was, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I mean, I had wood pigeon for dinner that night, which felt a bit... Fuck off. It felt a bit odd, if I'm honest, but it wasn't the same one. It wasn't the same one that I'd saved. So it didn't, no, I didn't have wood pigeon for dinner. No, I know, you didn't. You were in a right old funny move. I know, sorry.
Starting point is 00:24:17 That's good. So, yeah, yeah. It was a good start for the week. Yeah, we've had a couple actually. We had a couple. that we've had to take to the animal rescue thingy. That's lovely. Talking of wood pigeons,
Starting point is 00:24:31 I'm doing Saturday Kitchen on Saturday. Really? It's a strange day to do it on. Sorry. So facetious. Yeah, I'm doing that on Saturday. Lovely. And it's always a good one to do.
Starting point is 00:24:49 As you go down there really early, there's loads of food. Where is it? Is it South Bank, is it? Is it London Studios? No. It's a weird one actually. I can't remember where it is.
Starting point is 00:24:59 London's somewhere. But no, it's not. It's sort of its own entity, wherever it is. But you get there really early, and you get made up and whatever, and then you just eat and drink. And you leave there about one o'clock, absolutely plastered, where you've tried all the wines. All the wines and stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Yeah. So it's a really good one. Brill. Be right, weren't it? Yeah. They always ask me for my hell. You know, they do heaven and hell on there. So, you know, food heaven, food, hell.
Starting point is 00:25:25 And the audience vote. whatever. And when it gets to hell, I say, I don't really know, jelly deals. Marzipan for me. Oh, is it? Oh, God, Marzipan. Hate it? Interesting. Yeah. Burned almonds, isn't it, or whatever, it's, oh, don't, I can't. Marcy pan. Well, I just don't really like sweet things. I said that to them, but then. That doesn't count. No, it's got to be a proper don't like, isn't you?
Starting point is 00:25:48 I said, I've been on three times, jelly deals. I sort of eat everything. You could feed me I said you can feed me a lobster but that's kind of an allergy thing so you can't do that but it was quite funny going through everything she said what about
Starting point is 00:26:05 she was going through I said no I like them like that snails no that's all right yeah yeah that's all good so we'll see what
Starting point is 00:26:13 they come up with but it'll be a good one we did have a message sorry going back to telly I know we're talking about telly a lot tonight but I did think this was something that you have to mention
Starting point is 00:26:23 because we've been talking about strictly in Saturday Night Tele. We had a message from DGL.comfit.J. What was your favourite 90s Saturday Night TV show? 90s. 90s. For me, that is such a hard question. Blind date. You bet.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Well, blind date was 80s. I don't think it was 90s. It was. Was it? Maybe very early, but I remember. It might be very early 90s. And no one might be very early 90s. And no one might be.
Starting point is 00:26:53 my favourite nights because I can smell mummy's chips in the chip fryer mistaken chips I can see daddy walking in from work
Starting point is 00:27:03 and the paws being on and that for me is my childhood just us free being very little I loved you bet Matthew Kelly
Starting point is 00:27:16 yeah you bet was right at the end of the 80s early 90s blind date was massive that was Saturday night. Yeah. It was on early.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Yeah, yeah. So you'd watch it getting ready to go out. I'd be doing me fishing gear and I'd all want you. It's a blind day. You just have it on. It was just religiously. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Big break was the other one. And I loved that. So maybe I, I mean, I'm 83. So maybe I do remember sort of 89, 90. Yeah, I think you'd be surprised. You was probably 5, 6, 7. No. When you remembered it.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Yeah, I think those memories can be very vivid. I just don't remember. remember much, but maybe they are. But I remember all of big break being on, blind date being on. Yeah. And I just loved that Saturday night telling. So 90s, that's an interesting one for me because... What were you up to?
Starting point is 00:28:06 I love a Google. What were you doing? We got married in 94. Yeah. So we'd have moved into our flat. The year of four weddings and a funeral. Yes. And how many copies of the DVD did you get bought that year?
Starting point is 00:28:16 None. Did you not? No. I thought you got, where have I got that from? No. No. No. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Must have been someone else. That was the big film, yeah. That was the big film, though, when you got married, wasn't it? When we got marriage, yeah. Four weddings and a funeral. And it was funny, because where I was working at the time, all the girls would all go out and watch the film. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:34 You know, and they'd all come back going, oh, I've seen this film. Yeah. I've seen this film. You're going to be like that. You're going to be putting your socks on late for your own wedding and hopping along, trying to get in a little mini and all that. And I thought, oh, I'm not. I won't be late.
Starting point is 00:28:48 I'll be dead if I am. It was funny, I never forget it. It was a beautiful summer. It was wall-to-all sunshine from probably June, right the way through September, and then it pissed the rain on our wedding day. It was the first time it rained for about 12 weeks. All day long. All day long, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:05 I think it stopped about 9 o'clock that night, but there we go. So, yeah, 90s, I can't, I'm just trying to think, really. I'm just having, look, 90s game shows. I tell you what, is the most memorable night of television. It's in probably the top five in my life, but certainly in the 90s, we were with friends of ours, Martina and Paul having a...
Starting point is 00:29:27 We used to have a drink and, you know, they'd come around or we'd go around to them, and they was around to ours and we was having a drink and whatever, and watching the... And the Eurovision Song Contest came on. We never really watched it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:37 But we stuck it on for some reason. Don't know why. I told you why, because it was in Ireland. Oh, there you go. You know, the old country had won it the year before. It was in Ireland. So we're sitting there watching it, and it's now the break, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:48 and I said, oh, we're going to have a... There's a very special... thing coming on in a moment and so we're watching it thing, what's this all about? Then they introduced it and it was Riverdance. You've shown me it on YouTube. That's where it started. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:30:01 And we would literally, for two and whatever it was, half minutes, you know, like your jaw was like that, could not believe what we were seeing, could not just absolutely unbelievable because Sharon did some country dancing when she was little. Martina did as well coming from Irish families. We've been to Ireland and seen her
Starting point is 00:30:21 nan and stuff and we've been in pubs with the music and all the rest of it and the best. Yeah, brilliant. And it was just absolutely astonishing. Astonishing. And it was one of those, like everyone we speak to, mentioned it to, nobody watched it. Because it was Eurovision song contest. People didn't.
Starting point is 00:30:40 People just thought, it's a load of crap. They ain't watching that. Loader rubbish. Don't want to watch it. Yeah. It was just pure fluke that we watched it. And it was one of those astonishing moments. And that's what, it basically went from there and became this.
Starting point is 00:30:51 worldwide phenomenon really. Unbelievable. And it is actually. You can find it on YouTube because you've shown me it. If you put River Dance Eurovision Song Contest. It is unbelievable. And then watch it and just bear in mind this is the first time anyone has ever seen it.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Yeah. And it's even more. It's astonishing. Yeah. Absolutely astonishing. Michael Flatley, Jean Butler, the dancers. It is an incredible two and off. minutes, it really is.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Incredible. This Eurovision, however. It was good at a one, won't he? That poor bloke's got to live with that for the rest of his life. Whoever, who told him that was a good idea? Honestly. I mean, they keep playing the song as well on Radio 2 today. Well, they probably just feel sorry for him.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I know, but it ain't a great song. No, it's terrible. Yeah, unfortunately, it wasn't great. If someone's put him up to that, they need shooting. Do! That poor bloke, I don't know what he does. Is he in entertainment or is he a plumber? And he decided to do that for an evening.
Starting point is 00:31:57 I don't know. I don't know the backstory. Someone has said to him, that's a really good idea. That is. Yeah, and he's probably thinking, he's looking at it. I'm not sure about this. Hmm. The old gut feeling ain't great.
Starting point is 00:32:08 No, go for it. It's brilliant. You're going to bring the house down. You're going to win it. One point. Last. I don't know. Bless him.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I just can't. I just, I just was watching it. And I just turned around. I think I turned around to, My mum in-law, Sylvan, just said, what on earth was that? What? And then everyone was going on about old Delta Goodrum. I think she just screamed a lot.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I didn't see it all, actually. Yeah, we watched it. I usually quite like it, but this year I wasn't really into it. Look, she was brilliant. Don't get me wrong, but it was sort of a, a little bit of a sort of, like a poor man's Titanic. Saline Dion. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Yeah. She was brilliant. Don't get me wrong. I mean, I can't sing, and she was great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't think it was quite as good as everyone said it was. Fair enough. Again, my humble opinion.
Starting point is 00:32:57 You can't beat Waterloo, can you? Not really. Or that's a more, eh, or, oh, sorry, Valore. Making your mind up. Making your mind up, Bucks Fizz. Super dupe. Those were the days. Yeah, or the best one was kisses for me, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:33:12 Saved all your kisses, oh, yeah. I think it was 75, yeah, I remember, yeah, I remember that. Very good. Who was that? René and Renata? No. No, I shouldn't. No, really. That's annoyed me now.
Starting point is 00:33:23 No, it's all right. Anyway, going back to the Saturday night quiz show, I think I'll have to go, you bet. Right, okay. I'm going to go, you bet. Because you never knew it was coming on. Yeah, yeah. You never knew what their thing was going to be.
Starting point is 00:33:36 It could have been perfume scents or flags of the world. And they only had about half an hour, didn't they? And then they did that challenge, set it. But I hear that's coming back now, isn't it, you bet? You bet's coming back, big breaks coming back with Paddy McGinnis. and Stephen Hendry. What else is coming back? Name, I want to say name that tune.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Am I wrong? Alison Hammond is doing one. What, name that tune? I'll name that tune in one. Name that tune, I'll call my bluff. One of them, but they've having a resurgence these things. So I said to a friend of mine and a TV producer, why are we not bringing back the generation game?
Starting point is 00:34:16 Rylan hosting? Yeah. What's on the scores in that class? Yes. I'll be rosemary. Yes. Yeah, you can be rosemary, whatever. What's on the doors, right?
Starting point is 00:34:26 I know, you know, we can work out the tagline. Yeah, what's on the... But how good would... What's on the mat, Nat. Whatever. Whatever. Yeah. But I think it would be a goer.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Generation game is good fun, weren't it? Well, I always thought we should do pro-celebrity DIY. I thought it was a cracking idea. What's the premise? Well, you get a professional celebrity and they've got to do some tiling or do a bit of painting or wire a plug in a set time limit.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Pro Celebrity DIY. It could be a gore. It could be a gore. For the afternoon? Well, I'd want Paddy McGuinness to do it, so it's not going to happen in the afternoon. It's got to be prime time. If Paddy's doing it, it's prime time.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Absolutely. So, yeah, pro-celebrity DIY. You can't have Josh Whittickham now. No. He's taken. No, he's gone. Rommis is too busy. No, he's absolutely up to his eyeballs.
Starting point is 00:35:18 He's got quiz shows all over the show. I know. Stand-up, Comedy. I mean, I had a brick ready for rubbish. No, I'm not even bother chucking it. Don't even bother. He's so busy. Do you know what?
Starting point is 00:35:27 He won't even notice. No, I know. If the wind is broken. Yes, I've heard that. He is so busy. So busy. And he deserves to be in all because he's another fantastic man. I love seeing people do well.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Yeah. It's great. Yeah. I've never met him. And you know, you get certain people in life and they'll go, oh, he's on everything. I go, yeah, he's on another 10 more programs. I hate that sort of jealous streak in people. Yes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:48 It's not very nice. No, it's not. It's really not nice. Let people do well. He's on everything for a reason. Yeah. A, he's really good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:57 He's very, very funny. And he's probably really, really lovely. Yeah. Extremely professional. Yeah. And people can't wait to get old of him to use him. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:06 So that's my two pen. Right. Okay. So can we push post celebrity DIY, please? I mean, that's a broad outline. Yeah. We can make it more interesting. I feel like we could definitely do something with it.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Well, what you do is you introduce quite a lot of, um, dangerous tools, like chop sores, band sores, skill sores. What can be able to do that? Well, I'm sure we could. BBC are a little bit funny. Yeah, well, you don't go with a beep, yeah. We could do maybe watch, double you or something. You go renegade.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Renegade. Exactly, you go watch, or you go UK TV or someone's going to push the boat out a little bit, someone that's, you know, that's not shackled by health and safety. Yeah, okay, okay. angle grinders of various sizes. I feel maybe Greg Davis could get on board with this. Yeah, yeah. He might quite like a bit of...
Starting point is 00:36:57 Yeah, he sort of strikes me as a sort of fella that would probably quite enjoy people cutting their own fingers off. Yeah, I think so. And painting a good wall. Yes. I feel like he's got the balance. Yeah, maybe, maybe.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I don't know what his DIY skills are like. No, no. We could even go rogue, actually, and I'm not sure because obviously she does a lot of sport now and she's really under the cost with it all. But Gabby Logan, she's very competitive.
Starting point is 00:37:23 She could be quite good at... Yeah. Spurring me on to wire a plug. I think Gabby would be... I think she'd be a very good anchor person. You know, she'd anchor it really, really well. Well, I'll let my TV producer friends know about the idea.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Yeah, go for it. And perhaps we can build on it. I think we should... Pardon the pun. I think we should brainstorm it in a very expensive restaurant somewhere in West End. Or we can. could do it like Helen Partridge with a voice recorder.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Idea for a show. Celebrity and pro-builder in room, painting building, has 20 seconds to do it in the dark. We put a plimefold on them, and we feed them wine and give them a hacksaw. Yeah, and they're also on a turn table at the same time. Well, we're 45 minutes in.
Starting point is 00:38:14 I'll leave off. We're 45 minutes in. How many messages have we had to do? Honestly. so many and we're going to now... And we've done none of them. We've got to move... We've done all the bits and pieces
Starting point is 00:38:24 because loads has happened. Right. We've got to move on now. Right, okay. To all of the listeners... All of the listeners have sent us, loads of stuff, because we got this message and I thought it would be really good for us to talk about.
Starting point is 00:38:37 So here we go. Hello, Nat. Thought I would mention a good topic to have a nag about. Competition winners. Are these competitions real? Does anyone win? Are there hidden clauses? We see so many adverts about them, but never hear much about winners.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Have you ever won a competition? Do you know anyone who has? Well, if not, you do now, because I was a lucky winner of a brand new car back in 2009. The DVLA ran a monthly competition. All I had to do was agree to have a photo and a quote for the local newspapers, and that was that. Handed the keys, and off I drove. I had ten years of trouble-free motoring in that little car,
Starting point is 00:39:19 and it was fab. But do you want to know the funny thing? Just as the picture of me standing proudly by my new car was about to be taking, the biggest seagull flew overhead and did the biggest shite all over the brand new shiny paintwork. Oh God.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Well, you can't have all the luck. Anyway, this is from Paula in Romsey and she is asking about competitions. And I thought, what a great shout. Paula's answered our own question. She said, does anyone have a lot of? actually win him and then she just tells us she's won a car. Well, she's won a car, and she said she loves all the pod.
Starting point is 00:39:54 She's never missed one, keep being brilliant. Oh, that's good. Thank very much, Paul up. It is a good subject. Well, people must win, you know, they must, don't know. No, but you see, all the radio ones every morning. Heart and this and that. But you don't, I don't ever hear of who's won it.
Starting point is 00:40:10 I know you might hear them scream on the radio. Do you know anyone who's won anything big? What, personally? Yeah. I've worked with a plumber once, and he's made. He won the lottery. He won $250,000. No way.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Yeah. Really? Yeah. And someone else I sort of know saw an acquaintance of his. They hadn't seen him for quite a while. Yeah. He said, how are you?
Starting point is 00:40:35 He said, oh, yeah, I've just been away and I've just done this. And he went, blime, he went, he ain't won the lottery of you. He went, yeah, yeah, I won four million pound last year. And this fellow had won four million quid. Wow. Bought a new house.
Starting point is 00:40:46 He said, I just go an holiday all the time. Wow. That's a true story. Yeah. So it does happen. It does happen. Yeah. When we were young, Sharon and I,
Starting point is 00:40:56 she used to do all the travel for Abbey National. Yes. For her department and Abid National. So I used to spend a lot of money. It was a European and offshore department, so all the managers used to fly here there and everywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she's used this one travel company,
Starting point is 00:41:08 a girl called Debbie was her liaison. And one night Debbie said, oh, we're having a party down in Shoreditch or some. I can't remember where it was. It was in a wine bar for all of our clients. And there's some prizes. The top prize is three nights in the Mandarin Oriental in Hong Kong and business class flights.
Starting point is 00:41:26 So I thought, oh well, we'll go along and lo and behold, she won it. Which was, but I've never really won much, to be honest. And it was amazing. I remember that. Two youngsters, we didn't have a clue. And you gave me the brochure from the hotel. From Mandan Oriental, yeah, bought it back for you, yeah. And that is somewhere.
Starting point is 00:41:44 And if I haven't, it's where Dad's chucked it out. But I had it. Yeah. And it was black. Yeah. And shiny. That's right. And I used to sit there and look at it.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Yeah. I remember that. And the best bit was, we got on the plane at Heathrow, so business class. Yeah. Club, British Airways Club class was. The great big seats. And we were two, I think we were, I can't remember how old we, but I don't know. We were 21 and 22, whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:42:08 You know, we'd only have a gone cattle class to roads or Y-Beefer or whatever. So we're sitting there, and I'm saying, so this is going to cost a fortune. I said, well, we're going to, I don't know. We ain't about afford anything on it. I said, look at it. Anyway, this businessman sitting over there somewhere, orders a bottle of champagne, and the stewardess brings it up, pours it,
Starting point is 00:42:27 it puts it in the ice bucket next to him. And I've nudged it, and I said, I don't think he paid for that. She went, really? I'm sure he didn't pay for it. So I summoned up the courage, and I sort of said to this very lovely stewardess, I said, I hope you don't mind me asking.
Starting point is 00:42:44 I said, but do you have to pay for your drinks? She went, oh no, sir, it's all complimentary. I went, what, all of it. She went, yes, whatever you want. Whatever you want. And then what happened? It's like a kid in a sweet shop, really. No, but we didn't go mad, but it was just so,
Starting point is 00:43:03 what it was, we were a little bit embarrassed because we didn't know what we were doing. Oh, of course. And that was it. We would, trust me, we sort of managed to get into the rhythm and get into the club class. Vibes. buy pretty quickly.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Lovely. Yeah. Amazing. Absolutely amazing. So there you go. You've won something really good. Yeah, really good, yeah. That's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Yeah. We've got a little message here. Let's have a listen. Hi Nat and Tony. This is Caris. So when I was a kid, I entered a competition to see the Fugis in concert. And the question was, who sang the original version of killing me softly? So I answered Roberta Flack and I won.
Starting point is 00:43:49 And then about 20 years later, I discovered that Roberta Flack didn't originally record killing me softly. Laurie Lieberman did and Roberta Flack's version was a cover. So if I'd given the correct answer, then I would have lost the competition. Anyway, I hope you both have a great day. Great. Brilliant. That's a great quiz question because I would have said
Starting point is 00:44:17 Roberta Flack. Yeah, and I think if you ever actually pose a competition, you should really know your own answer. Oh, absolutely. So a bit of a schoolboy from whoever, you know, good luck to you for winning. Set the competition up, yeah. Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:44:29 This is really mad. Just seeing your message about winning competitions. I haven't won, but I did get married on the same day as Prince William, so we got a call to do a few magazines and photo shoots about it. Then we got a call from the million pound drop to see if I wanted to get married and then go straight to London to film the show to win a million.
Starting point is 00:44:53 I did think about it, but couldn't leave my hundred guests to party without me so we turned it down. Vicky from Liverpool. Hmm, admirable, yeah. Yeah, and also you're going to a quiz show. You might not win and you're not going to have your evening reception.
Starting point is 00:45:08 And you're going to mess your whole day up. Yeah. That's a bit mad. Yeah, I think I'd have done it. I think I'd have gone through it. No, of course not. Of course not. No, would they expect the answer to be,
Starting point is 00:45:18 yeah, we're going to leave all our 100 guests, all this stuff we paid for. Someone did. Who? Well, if that's what the million-pound drop were doing, I bet you had a couple of couples who just got married and then went to do the show. I don't have that 100 guests.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Maybe not. Might have been having to lunch in a pub somewhere or something. Yeah, maybe. And they went as well. Maybe. Hi, Natalie, I run a holiday to Florida on GMB, a good few years ago. Had lots of people on a Facebook.
Starting point is 00:45:43 but Paige saying it was a fix and that we worked for them. I was on the telly, went with other winners and Sean Fletcher. Brilliant. Who's Sean Fletcher? Did he used to do the weather, Sean? Oh, did he? Or I made that up. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Possibly. I don't know. I don't really watch it. I'm normally at work. I don't either. Don't have the telly on in the morning, do I? No. But isn't it funny that people can't cope?
Starting point is 00:46:07 You know what I mean? It's a fix. You must work for it. Yeah, it's right, yeah. Just won a competition. Yeah. I haven't won anything really I've won the odd tombola
Starting point is 00:46:16 and the raffles at school where Joni proceeds to take about an hour to choose something which is a painful painful experience I mean she's still there choosing after all the prizes have been taken by other people really really well I don't know
Starting point is 00:46:31 are you going to need that I'd like the puzzle and I think I'll just pick something please because it's not worth it really not worth it I'd like to know who wins Look, they say every month there's a million pound premium bonds winner. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:46 And I don't believe it because I never hear of anyone winning that. I did see a program once and it was people having to guess what someone's job was. And this person, it was a lady and she said, I'm the person who knocks on someone's door to sell them one a million pound on the premium bond. Really? But I just think, I'd just like to know, you know. Yeah, because they don't do an advert or anything, did they, the NS&I? No.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Because you've got someone knocking at your dog, you've done. You see the old postcode lottery, don't you? And you sort of see them at the door and they're happy, so you sort of believe it. But premium bonds are good, I think, if you've got loads. Yeah, maybe. If you've got loads, then you do get a good return. There's a decent return, I believe, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Yeah. I used to have them, but I sold them, I think, because of a tax bill. Not sold them, got them out. Useless at saving money. Never mind. Hey-ho. This is a good one. Hello, Nat and Tony.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Winning Lottos. My mum and dad are both called Pat. When the local club football was selling lotto tickets for their weekly lotto, they both bought one and just randomly picked numbers. Both put down Pat,
Starting point is 00:47:53 surname and our address. This is before mobile phones and we didn't have a landline. Their numbers were picked out. They couldn't remember what they'd wrote, so they just split the winnings. Pat. Pat from number one wherever.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Well, you would anyway, wouldn't you? Well, you would, wouldn't you? I won a TV when I was three in a raffle, and it was still working when I was 18, just had to be changed for the new TV system in Ireland. Hope you well. But later, happy birthday, Carla. Brilliant.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Absolutely brilliant. We've got a couple of building questions. Okay. But I'd find it very interesting, the competition stuff, because they are kind of shoved down your throat a little bit, I find, on sorry sort of
Starting point is 00:48:42 telly a little bit Well the radio's the same now Yeah Is it? Every station you listen to See I listen to radio too Well alright
Starting point is 00:48:50 Okay Every commercial station you listen to Then it's I listen to greatest hits Yeah You know And it's you text cash to whatever And you can win 400 grand or 300
Starting point is 00:48:57 And obviously you never win it Because we don't But they get you at it Yeah They get you at it And now they're doing two a week Okay
Starting point is 00:49:05 So they've obviously Realised Let's say I don't know let's say 100,000 people text in for the Friday one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they've obviously realised if they do two a week, double bubble.
Starting point is 00:49:19 They halve the prize into two halves, Wednesday and Friday, and they probably get twice the amount of entrants. Clever. Quite clever, yeah, and that's all algorithm-based and all that much. We're going to end with one building question before we go. All right, okay. Because, well, we have to. I've overdone it.
Starting point is 00:49:39 I just think we've had loads of talk about. But I think, no, we've got to have a little question. Go on. Because people love a little bit of advice, and we will keep the others that we've got, I promise you, and we will get to them. Here we go. Hi, Nat, hope you're good.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Long time listener, first time messaging. I have a question for Tony, please. We are currently undergoing quite extensive works on our house, and we have a construction company looking after the whole project. The work began on the 20th of April. and it's really taking its time. We have tradesmen in probably three days a week on average, although some weeks have been less.
Starting point is 00:50:18 On a long day, they are here from 7.30 in the morning until 3 o'clock in the afternoon. Work was planned to be complete on August the 10th, but looking at the schedule, we are at least one to two weeks behind already. Is this normal unacceptable? Should I raise this, or do I need to manage myself and be patient? Thank you. from Leanne in Chelmsford.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Oh, yeah. A bit of a mine filled this one, Leanne. So the bottom line is, is that when you do domestic building work, but people talk about contracts and you've got to get a contract in place and a lot of the time it's not really worth the paper it's written on because you're never going to invoke any of the clauses in the contract.
Starting point is 00:51:00 It's not like a commercial environment where people have experts to invoke, fight, argue, clauses in contracts, etc, etc. That's what they're there for. So a lot of the time you are relying on the goodwill of the company that you've employed. So, for instance, when we do our quotes, we say that our standard working hours are 8 or 5,
Starting point is 00:51:25 Monday at Friday, and sometimes we'll work on a Saturday if we need to and we'll talk to you about it. I'll also say to my customers, you've got to wait for us, but once we're here, we're not going to start disappearing, we're not going to be here part days. I mean, I've got a job at the moment where we're not doing anything on it at the moment.
Starting point is 00:51:40 We're doing odds and sods, but that's because the back doors were ordered far too late in the program by the customer, not our fault. They took quite a long time to order their kitchen. Again, that's not our fault. So we've come to a stop on that one, and we've told them, we said, look,
Starting point is 00:51:52 as soon as we can do more work, we've got some plastering being done this week and whatever, but it's not that we're not there because we don't want to be there, but we just haven't got anything to do at the minute. Once doors turn up, kitchen turns up, then we're on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:05 So what I say to people is, when we start your job, we will not be disappearing. We will not be here one or two days a week. You won't be phoning us saying, where are you? That's just the relationship I like to have for my customers.
Starting point is 00:52:17 So I think in this situation, it's a real tightrope. Don't want to piss the builders off. You don't want to start arguing with them. But equally, they're not towing the line. They're obviously... They've got to be doing another job at the same time, haven't they?
Starting point is 00:52:31 I do other jobs at the same time. Yeah. But to take a job on like a full refurb and be doing two and three days a week on it at the start, it's not right. There's something wrong. Yeah, they've not got enough people. They're being too greedy and taking too much work on. They're incapable of managing more than one project.
Starting point is 00:52:49 This finishing at 3 o'clock in the afternoon, I don't understand. You know, all this, all right, start up past seven, big deal. You know, we start a quarter to eight. Yeah, yeah. But we're there to our past four, quarter five, five o'clock some nights. This sort of pack, by the time, if you start up past seven, say eight, quarter to eight, they'll have a bit of breakfast or whatever time, and then they'll go back to work for two hours, it's time to go home.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Yes. Don't get anything done. You know? So I think what, is it Leanne, was it? Yes. I think what Leanne needs to do and a partner or whatever is just have a chat with a bill. So get the builder, sit them down and say, look, we just want to review progress. We know that you're busy and whatever, but we're a little bit concerned about the timescale.
Starting point is 00:53:30 We think that we think our time scale is pushing out, which we don't really want. There's days when there's not people. here and we think they should be. Is there anything you need from us? Yeah. Is there anything you need from us? Is there any reason? And if they go, oh, no, no, no, then they've got to say to them, look, I'm sorry, but...
Starting point is 00:53:48 Leaving at three is a bit unacceptable. You've got to be here five days a week. You can't dictate people's hours. You can't. And this is where you've got to be careful. These people are in their house now. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:00 They've probably got off the back of the house missing or the roof off or whatever it is. So you've got... So it's a real, real minefield. You could phone N21 buildings, though, if you're sort of in the Enfield area, Hartfordshire, N21 buildings. Yeah, Essex-ish. No, but it is, you can tell she's concerned. Yes, no. And rightly so.
Starting point is 00:54:21 But I think you can't. But you're right, you'd be frightened. You can't go off on one. No. Because the builder could, right, would say, well, do you know what? I've had a load of your money and, fuck, I sod you, I'm just not coming back. I've seen it happen all the time. So you've got to be careful with it.
Starting point is 00:54:34 But I think you can. a way that you can sit down and say to them, look, we're a little bit concerned. We have two or three days of work when there's no one here. We believe there should be people here. Is it anything you need from us? Yeah, it's good. You know, sort of do it that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:45 And then see what comes back. And if what comes back is like it or lump it, then that is the case. You either go with it and you try and drag them along and you say to yourself, this is going to be a bit longer. Yeah, but we're going to get it done. Or you take a very difficult decision and you say, well, look, I think we need to cut our losses. and then you've got to find to bring someone in halfway for a job
Starting point is 00:55:07 and anyone you find that can do it straight away is going to be awful and except, et cetera. Yeah. Yeah, so it's a difficult situation. And it's wrong because, you know, we do not start a job half-cocked. No, no. Thinking, well, we'll start it.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Yeah, yeah. I've seen it. I've seen jobs, people have started. They've, like, ruined the back of the house and dug up the garden and put some concrete and disappear for a month. Don't come back. I've heard about it.
Starting point is 00:55:36 It's crazy, isn't it? Crazy. There's times when we use subcontractors, there's a little overlap. You know, like so we might do some footings and the brickeys are not quite ready. They've been delayed or it's been raining or whatever it might be. It might be one or two days or a few days. But that job is a job and you're in there. But there's a reason for it.
Starting point is 00:55:53 It's not a, we're going to start it and then we're going to turn up two days a week. That's just not on. Well, there you go, Leanne. That's Tony's answer for you, which I think is a pretty sensible one. I really do hope that you do have a chat with him or, you know, you sort it out. Let us know. Because we do like to hear what's going on with you all.
Starting point is 00:56:10 I mean, obviously, I'm on Instagram and she wants a message, me. Yes, of course. Tony Cash 68. If she wants to message. Yeah, Tony Cash 68. And even if she wanted to, if she wanted me to have a, I'll happily have a chat with her if she, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:23 if she wants or a husband or no, whatever. Yeah. If she's concerned, I'm happy to. Have a little chat. I'm not going to step in. No, no, no. Because that's wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:32 But I, if she wants some. a little bit of help, then I'm happy to give a little bit of help. There you go, what could you ask for, hey? You'll regret that. Oh, yeah, I know, yeah, probably, yeah. People's, could you, could not ringing you up? No, I've had, I've had a message from someone talking about panelling on the wall and how it should be laid out
Starting point is 00:56:51 and trying to explain how all their windows worked and whatever, and I just, it just done me heading, I just couldn't even think about responding. How did you answer when you can't see something? No, fair enough. How do you do this? And what do you do down? I've got to draw the line. I'm there, but I mean, this is a scenario where you've got, they've invested a lot of money in this, in their house. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Obviously, it's a, it's a major job because they've brought a company in to build it and project manage it and deliver the project. And, you know, it's only been going for a month or so. And to have those feelings, I mean, we, people get fed up with us after seven and eight, nine months. Don't get me wrong. Of course. Because you've just been in their house too long.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah. They do. And I, you know, not, not because we've taken too long, but there's, you know, there's extras and there's this and there's that and stuff happens and whatever else. But to have this sort of feeling that early, there's an alarm bell ringing. Okay. Yeah. Well, there you go.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Thank you. Thank you. What a lovely chat tonight, weren't it? It was nice. I just filled up, we've not touched on any of the messages we've got, you know, touched on about 1% of all the messages we got. We can pick up on them, I'm sure. Yeah. I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Well, I really enjoyed that. I love that. And I'm looking forward to going to sit on the sofa. on my bottom to see if Arsenal have nearly won the league? Yeah, if it goes, if it goes well. Is that it tonight? If it goes well tonight, we can win the league tonight, yeah. Brilliant.
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