Life with Nat - EP229: Scraping the Barrel #44 - Nat’s new BBC doc is out today!
Episode Date: May 24, 2026Nat starts by calling Roro to find out her view on designer clothing. One show chat, Nat’s new documentary is out and she’s excited, Marc chats prices per units, and it’s too late for any funny ...business. Get in touch with Nat, buy tickets for upcoming live shows and find the family on Instagram: https://lifewithnatpod.komi.io/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hello and welcome to Life with Nat on this absolutely scorching bank holiday Monday.
It's meant to be 31 degrees on Monday.
It is Monday.
But you know, they know that we don't do it on the day.
I can't believe you've done this again.
No, it's all good. It's fine.
They understand. People know.
Do you know what?
I showed Matt Payne this earlier today.
Yeah.
This podcast, I mean, and us talking.
And you started doing your intro of our last one.
And whilst you were doing the intro and he was watching it
because I was telling him about the YouTube channel.
Yeah.
And he watched it and he said,
why is she telling people that we're recording it early?
And then I then start talking about why you're saying that
and he agreed with me.
Well, because I'm honest.
Okay.
And the listeners need to know everything.
But wherever you're listening today,
perhaps you'll save it from when you're back to work on Tuesday.
But if you're listening today,
perhaps you're on a lovely walk,
perhaps you're at the beach,
perhaps you're having a lay down somewhere,
you're in the garden with a glass of rosé.
Perhaps you're in a studio all day, doing these tenders.
Well, I'm not there, so I don't care.
Right.
You've got a really weird bit of hair, by the way, coming out of here.
Oh, have I?
Again, only the viewers can see that, not the listeners.
No.
So good luck listeners.
Listening's the way forward.
How's that?
Yeah, that's good.
Cracking.
So, how's your day been?
It's been good, thank you.
Yeah, how was yours?
You look lovely, nice makeup.
Thank you.
I'll talk to you about all of that in a minute, I think.
Okay.
I think we should get down to business.
That little link.
Well, no, I think we should get down to business.
Go on.
Because you haven't stopped smiling like a Cheshire cat
after the video was posted last time on designer clothing.
And how many messages you've got and how everyone agrees with you.
I've had a lot of people say that.
A lot of people have agreed.
A lot.
I mean, at the Chris Gore.
Hmm.
Says it already.
He agrees.
He knows what he's talking about.
Why is he some sort of style guru
Very wise man
And he's on my side
So
Fair enough
Yep
Well I think
We missed a trick last time
We did
I listened to it
And whilst I was listening
To the podcast
Because I do listen to the podcast
I thought
We've missed a trick here
Because we should have
contacted Maria
Yeah
So
It's her bag
We're going to ring her now
Okay
And we're going to get her opinion
Okay
Fine, lovely.
Here we go.
Well, do we need her opinion after all of the messages.
Yes, I think we do.
I think we do, because I still say it's lovely to have designer items.
And funnily enough, you bought me one for my birthday.
I did, but you asked for it.
All right, babe.
Hello, sweetheart.
How are you?
Oh, right.
I'm late.
I'm in bed.
What are you doing?
I'm so sorry.
Yeah, no, we've recorded a pod.
Oh.
Hope you don't mind, but we've started on.
off. And I said, no, no, let's talk about the elephant in the room, talking about designer clothes about you.
That's right.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Who's the elephant in the room, though? Seriously.
Not, well, I'm the elephant.
Shut up. I've got my arms out because it's hot as well. I don't like my arms out.
I've got my trunk out.
Oh, my God.
Honestly, lower in the tone.
Brilliant, brilliant.
But on a serious note, he's so smug, because he's had,
50 messages on his Instagram
on our post saying, you're right,
you're right, you're right, you're right.
And I thought, no, no, no,
we need to phone a professional
regarding designer clothes.
What would you like my professional?
Well, you listen to the pod.
I did, so yeah, it made me laugh.
It's like me sitting there next week
talking about steam trains.
We'll give that a guy.
You crack on.
Be my guest.
I'm sure there's some designer steam trains knocking about.
No.
What, you don't pay more for a certain type of steam train.
I don't believe it.
No.
Well, you do.
That's absolute rubbish.
The Orient Express.
Listen, you're clutching at straws here.
To go on the Oriental Express.
I have no idea.
You know more than I do.
It's a lot of money.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I looked into it for your birthday.
I was like, I'm all right, thanks.
Right, okay.
And also, Mark, you like a taxi, didn't you, mate?
Or a little North Face hoodie.
I love my Norfolk.
North Face hood,
either,
Eddie got me.
There we go.
That has an all face on it.
It's got a tiny little tag
on the sleeve.
I tried to unpick it,
but it won't come off.
It's a nice hoodie,
though.
Exactly.
No, I do understand
a little bit of the
Mark is saying,
but I think with luxury brands,
I mean,
they go back to like at the 1800s.
It is a craftsmanship.
Hang on, hang on.
Sorry.
Now, I respect your opinion,
and you know what you're talking about.
Can you let a talk then?
So let me just, no, let me just say one thing.
Go on.
Are you telling me in the 1800s, someone wandered about the cap on and on the cap?
No, yeah, I understand.
What I was going to say is obviously like, say that Hermes, for instance, they started in like a question.
But of course, they're just monetising it now, aren't they?
Yeah.
And it's demand, isn't it?
Supply and demand.
People want it, same as people want to wear Nike because it's got a tick on it.
Yep, I agree.
I agree with all of that.
Yeah, some of the items are.
I mean, don't be wrong.
Even I agree.
I think they are.
It's got so expensive now.
It's a crazy, crazy time.
It's not even affordable anymore, is it?
But it's like anything.
People like to just have, it's, yeah, I don't know.
But do you agree with me?
Because I was being really honest, if I wear my fendi woolly hat.
Yes.
I know I've bought that, really, because I want the label on it.
Yeah, of course, absolutely.
Why should you just buy a plain woolie hat?
It's a status thing.
And also, I've bought that.
I can go into Tesco's and buy a hat, not a problem.
Oh, I'll shopping Marxist for 95% of the year.
Now, you say it's a status thing,
but then there's people that will save up or for like a big birthday,
they'll get something nice that's designed now
because it's just a nice thing to have, isn't it?
It's not anything.
People save up for things.
It's, you know, like handbags, you collect them, you keep them.
Yes.
I mean, again, it's so expensive.
But they don't lose, you know, they don't lose value.
You look after them.
Yes.
You can resell them.
Don't get me wrong.
I know, like, you can buy a cotton t-shirt with the brand on it, and it's like four or five hundred quid.
It's wild.
See, I've got to say, I totally agree with everything you just said.
And I also do understand it as a concept.
To be clear, the point I was making was, I'm talking about the particular brands.
Yeah.
Where it's just an ordinary thing.
And the only designer bit about it is the name.
Yeah, the logo.
Yeah, that's what you're paying for.
I can look at a piece of art and think that's really interesting how that's been made.
I can look at a piece of clothing by like a proper design brand,
which hasn't got his name plastered over it, and I can look at it and go,
that is really different, interesting.
I'll get it, mate.
But I guess the cap with the embroidered logo is going to be probably the most accessible item,
so it just gets people to wear it, promote it,
that wouldn't be able to afford to buy the free-brown bag.
Do you what I mean?
I understand.
It's a funnier world, but I love it, which is, yeah, a bit of a shocker.
What's encouraging to see is, is I would say, if we're talking percentages, I don't know, 95% of people that have sent messages in have agreed that the, the, specifically the labelling of the brand.
I'm not talking about a really classy bit of clothing that's nicely designed, but hasn't got the name on.
But a lot of brands is like that's, they all do it.
It's like, why don't we all just shopping supermarkets?
Then no one, you know what I mean?
There's nothing.
Even like, I mean, we're talking about luxury brands,
but it is the same with the sports brands.
People want to be seen.
Yeah, people like to be wearing logos, don't they?
Yeah, it's interesting.
And, you know, now it's children.
Yes.
You know, they go to school.
They want this.
They want the North Face jacket.
It's, yeah.
I've got a funny story for you, Maria, but she'll like this.
you're like this.
So growing up, my mum never bought me any kind of designer.
Well, it's not even designer.
Any branded clothing.
So the sort of clothing I had was BHS.
Yeah.
Back in the day.
Back in the day.
I don't know.
Probably some supermarket brands.
I can't think.
No.
I remember going to BHS and hating it, hating the smell of it.
And it was horrible.
I hated going to drop in for clothes.
It made me not like it.
You don't like it, no.
But I remember, you know, the dreaded thing that would happen as you got older at school.
When I say get older, I'm talking eight or nine years old.
Own clothes days.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was petrified.
I did not have anything with any, and I'm talking sports gear.
I didn't have anything.
And I remember, I remember vividly, I think we went to like a Matalan or something.
Might have been Azda.
Or it might even be a cat.
and carry.
And I got a white
Puma t-shirt.
What was you buzzing?
And it was the first thing I had
where you knew who made it, right?
Yeah.
And I remember wearing
that being so confident
bowling, I was about 10,
bowling into...
But why, why then?
Why was it?
Because all the other kids
used to take the Mickey out of me
because I didn't have any clothing
that had any label on,
on Nike Tick or whatever.
So if we went to a therapist now,
we've wrapped up why you feel the way you do about designing clothes.
No, absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
No.
If you went to the therapist,
the therapist would go,
yeah,
when you were younger,
you were misinformed and were bullied
by a lot of stupid children.
And actually,
the lesson your mum and dad taught you
was actually quite good.
And going forward,
you've benefited really well.
It was,
but I guess,
I guess this is a thing with clothing
and I know,
then people,
you know,
to take the piss a bit and rip people off.
But it does empower you.
It does make you feel good.
I agree.
But surely, I see what I like.
We have it at work.
You have people at work in this industry, dresses.
You have costume people at work.
They do not wonder about the Fendi cap on.
They go to a second-hand shop.
They go to a charity shop or they make their own.
What's that amazing guy who makes all the costumes at East End?
Oh, Joe.
Unbelievable.
Joe, everything he wears, he's made it himself.
Yeah, he's a mate.
I know, but he's not.
about a fendi hat on?
No, I know, but he's very eccentric. He's amazing.
Yeah, but again, like, but then some people design the stuff like, that's not caught.
Like, again, it doesn't mean you can dress.
No.
You know how to put things together.
Loads of people with loads of money, they just go in and, like, dripping in Gucci.
It doesn't mean you look good.
Well, I think you look good when you can go Tesco, buy something, go boxes, buy something.
If you want to put in your designer, but you mix and match, do I mean?
You like to just know how to put things together.
It doesn't matter where it's from.
And funny enough,
like,
I was talking about,
like the kids
going to the own clothes day,
what's the good,
one of the one year,
on day, whatever it is.
I never send out of being
sport stuff.
Like, literally,
I'll do cheap stuff
because they ruin it.
Yes, absolutely.
Final thing I'm going to say
is I've seen you,
Maria,
do, like,
help Natalie out
with outfits
for award shows.
She helped me today.
Right?
I did.
You're very good at that.
It's obviously,
you know,
you know what you're doing.
I'm not just saying that.
I know that.
It's your profession.
again, you've never gone, I've got a great outfit for you, Natalie.
Here you go, here's the Fendi hat with Fendi written on the top.
Not allowed to wear, not allowed to wear labels on the telly.
If it wasn't for telly, please, you know what I'm saying.
Being honest.
I think, I actually think, let's be honest, I think, Natalie.
You'll keep it real, geez.
I think Maria and I are slightly more aligned than you might have thought on this subject.
Is that a fair comment, I think, Maria?
No.
Yes, no, I completely understand where you're coming from.
However, if I could...
Agree to disagree.
...designer clothes every day, I would.
Anywho.
Any who, there we are.
Any road would have been more topical for this podcast, actually.
Any road?
Thank you so much.
I'm so sorry, it's so late.
It's all right.
I'm just watching a little...
Start a little series.
Oh, what are you watching?
One time we'd watch it.
Believe me, about the cabbie that did bad things to...
Oh, yeah.
Oh, you'll have to...
Well, our pod on Tuesday, you'll have to tell us what it's like.
Yeah, we'll...
Elliot's going to love that one.
Why?
Next time she gets a cab.
Oh, really?
Right up her street.
She'll be walking home from now one, I think.
It's good job, Vail bloke in the drama.
Does it look at Elio?
Is all I'm going to say.
I've literally just put it on.
Brilliant.
All right.
All right.
Okay.
Love you, darling.
See you a bit.
Bye.
I'll talk to you tomorrow.
Bye.
Bye.
Wow, she agrees with me.
Let's be honest.
We know that.
Yeah, I think you've really, really twisted that round.
I just think Natalie,
you need to go on camera underscore Mark,
Instagram account and have a read of messages
because like two people agreed.
And not everyone agrees with you.
Hi, Suzanne from Durham.
In the car listening will not be popping over to YouTube
to scraping the barrel.
designer things.
Now, I'm afraid Mark, I can't agree with you on a lot of things
and feel for times.
However, this is absolutely ridiculous.
As you say, I do not want to buy anything with a name on.
She does agree with me.
Even on this, she agrees for me.
It is better quality.
There might be all be made overseas.
I don't know.
whatever. Certain things are better quality than others. However, I will not buy a bag and anything
with a designer stuck all over it. So, agree on this point. Love in everything, always, of course.
Bye.
Hang on a minute. Sorry.
I thought that that message... Me too.
Was one that... Where they agreed with me?
No.
But Suzanne doesn't agree with me.
Suzanne never agrees with me.
However, she never agrees with you
and she feels for me at times.
Yeah.
Remember that?
But let's not skirt around the point
that even on that subject,
she agreed with me.
And I genuinely didn't realise that.
Oh, I'll give up.
And I suggested you played it.
I absolutely give up.
Yeah, anyway, thanks for everyone for agreeing and me.
I appreciate it.
Let's be honest, what we know from that
is our listeners are sensible.
Thank you.
But they all love a little treat at times.
I know you do.
You love a little treat.
They love a little shop.
And I reckon if someone said,
come to Selfridges
and buy yourself
something designer
that'd enjoy the experience
Anyway, I want to get back
to my day
So why do you look so glam
This evening
You look lovely
I've had a bit of a day of it
I had
An MNS shoot
Oh yeah
Which is very fun
MNS shoot
Yeah
Lots of tasting
Lots of tasting
Lots of food stuff
All very exciting
And then I went
And did the one show
Oh you're right
With our friend Tom Allen
Oh, lovely.
I mean, I couldn't be on with the most, I was so excited that he was going to be on with me.
That's brilliant.
Because sometimes letting people into a little secret, mentioning no names, sometimes you can get on there.
You can be on a sofa with four people.
Yep.
And each and every one of them wants to really have a good old chat.
So you feel like it's a competition.
Whereas this was, first half, I had a lovely interview about the care show,
second half, Tom spoke about his book.
His book sounds absolutely brilliant
if you didn't see the one show.
Common Decency by Tom, out now,
all about suburbia.
He grew up in Bromley.
It's all about neighbours.
I'm going to start it tonight, common decency.
Okay, good.
So there we go.
Do you sign it for us?
He did.
Nice.
In fact, that was quite interesting.
Because he signed it
and he wrote my name
Is he spelled out of an H?
He always does.
Right, okay.
I haven't got the heart to tell him.
But then he turned to me and he said,
Oh, hang on.
Is it Mark with a C or A, okay?
I said, C.
He said, I knew it.
And then he wrote your name,
and I thought, but you've spelled my name wrong.
Oh, hang on a minute.
That's a different story.
Earlier Ron and showed it to me,
and he said, it's Mark of a C, isn't it?
No, he said, Mark with a CERK, but he did.
Oh, I felt really good about that.
You've exaggerated.
No, no, but he did say, oh, I knew that.
But he spells my name wrong.
Okay.
But I haven't got the heart to tell him.
A lot of people spell your name like that.
Yeah, it's quite a way that Natalie spelled.
Fair enough.
But there you are.
But yeah, it was lovely, lovely show.
Roman was on Roman Kemp, Alex Jones.
Yeah.
Love seeing Roman.
No his dad.
No his dad.
Work with his dad.
We spoke about This Is Your Life.
He said, I reckon the last time I really spoke to you, I saw you.
I was five on Dad's This Is Your Life.
I was like, wow, that's amazing.
and he was talking about remembering how to keep it a secret from his dad.
I said you did well at five.
Imagine our kids are keeping a secret at five.
Can't keep one now.
No.
So that was lovely.
And Alex is always really lovely.
And it was really good.
Really enjoyed myself.
Any crew members said like to me or not?
No.
Oh, charming.
Well, I walked in on a VT at the beginning.
So the show had started.
Yeah.
It wasn't kind of a sit-down before the show and have a chat.
Who was the floor manager?
I can't remember his name.
Lovely guy.
Rob.
Mix race guy, bald, tall.
What's his name?
Oh, I know who you mean.
He's married to...
I should know his name.
It's Paul Morgan.
Paul, thank you.
Yeah.
Lovely Paul.
Married to Polly, who I used to work with on YouTube.
Well, love Paul.
So he was there.
Saw Phil.
I had a little wave.
Oh, yeah.
But yeah, it goes like that, the one show.
Half an hour on the telly.
But when you're sat there, it feels like five minutes.
And that's why it'd be so nice to work on that.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
It's a good.
dig that, are they?
Get in for what?
Five?
Half five?
No, like three.
Oh, really?
Yeah, free record sometimes.
Oh, fair enough.
Just throw that stuff together.
It's proper work that.
Yeah, but it's a quick day,
in it?
Lovely day.
Yeah.
You need to do a chat show.
Can you get to do a chat?
Please do a chat show.
Chat show?
Please do a chat show
so I can come and work on it.
Please.
No.
Thank you very much.
No.
Why?
I did a little bit of
auto queue work today.
Yeah.
Not on the one show.
And I did it probably three times perfectly
because it needed to be in one take.
But when I mucked it up,
I felt so devastated.
Yeah.
I just go, oh, bollocks.
Like, I could never do live telly.
I'm telling you.
Hang on.
You're doing it right at a moment
without an auto queue.
So you could do a chat show.
No.
What are you talking about?
No, because it's different.
It doesn't have to be live.
Oh, well, that's all right.
Right, if it's pre-recorded, I'm fine.
No one said it was going to be like.
Oh, okay, fine.
So can you just do a chat show, please, that I can work on?
Maybe in the future.
And have a nice day.
I'd like to.
Thank you.
I'd love to do one with Tom.
Lovely.
As long as I can work on it, it's fine.
Well, there you go.
Yeah, please.
Be nice to that, wouldn't it?
Could supervise it, couldn't you?
Yes.
Absolutely.
Crack on, get it commissioned, please.
We'll have a go.
Yeah.
But yeah, the care show is out today.
for those who are listening on Bank Holiday Monday.
It's on BBC 1 at 1.30.
And I was like, it's Bank Holiday, who's going to watch it?
But they are repeating it at 7pm on Monday also.
So that is brilliant.
So it's on two times today.
And then it's also on IPlayer,
the first four episodes are dropping on Monday.
So you can have a little binge of the first four.
So just to be clear, it's on today.
Yes.
It's on this evening.
Yes.
And the first four episodes are available today.
On IPlayer.
Lovely.
And the rest of the week, it's Tuesday to Thursday at 2pm on BBC 1.
Can't wait.
I'm actually looking forward to seeing it.
And then the following Monday, the last four drop.
Sorry, I've just been distracted.
Do you remember when you're on EastEnders?
Yeah, it was quite a large part of my life.
And you used to have that nurse's uniform?
Yes.
I've just put two and it together with the care documentary.
It's very interesting.
because Sonia actually, there is a scene
in which I think they're using in the documentary
where Sonia goes in and says hi to Jamie,
I'm just signing up for my Level 3 MVP in health and social care
and it's what I've done in this documentary.
Can't remember it.
You've got to find the clip.
I talk about it today at work.
There's a clip where Sonia goes for the job as a nurse
and he's next to a male nurse, which is Matt.
Yes.
And Matt is in it as an essay.
And he always talks about that scene
and the fact you were in it.
We should try and find it.
Yes.
Matt can find it.
He's got loads of time.
He's making snooker videos all the time.
Matt Payne is a cameraman with Mark now,
but he was an essay and he acted with me and he Stenders.
And does he let me forget about it?
He was also a jockey.
It's weird because we were saying about this earlier.
He filmed horse racing and he was once a jockey,
and he filmed his stenders and was once in it as an essay.
Was he a snooker player as well?
No.
Oh, fair enough.
That's the old thing about it.
But he's got this thing where he's got to have been in...
Well, hang on.
Hang on.
In the snooker, he's been on the telly now in a VT.
So he's got this thing where whatever he films, he's in it.
Yeah.
Joe and David love the clip, the snooker clip.
Yeah, he needs to go on Chatterbix and do an interview with him.
Yeah, that would be good.
I reckon they'd have him.
I think they would...
They don't have me anymore.
No.
I reckon they'd have Matt.
Possibly, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, the sort of guess they have makes sense.
Yeah.
That's not a comment, by the way, Matt, on yourself.
No, it's just the fact they use.
Yeah.
The way it is.
Exactly.
Back to the Sonia being in theseenders with a nurse's outfit.
Did you ever keep that outfit or did it go back to the costume department?
Oh, it remains at work.
Okay.
Why?
I was just wondering.
I thought of it today was a publicity photo and you're wearing like a light blue top
and it reminded me of the nurse's outfit.
I just wondered if you had it still.
No.
Okay.
Why don't you, when you're at work, ask to bring it home?
Yeah, I'm just going to wander into costume and say, have you got...
You could say Nat would really like her nurse's costume any way she could have it.
Yeah. Yeah, I don't think I'm going to do that.
I don't think it would fit me at the moment.
It's quite as small that was.
I don't know if it was.
Yeah.
All right, okay.
There was a larger fitting one, actually.
But yeah, I am expanding by the minute.
Okay.
I don't know why.
I'm not eating anymore.
I'm not drinking anymore.
Perimenopause, probably.
It could be my cortisol levels.
It could be stress, it could be hormones, or it could be hay fever.
Because what I've learned is histamines, which create the allergy that you're fighting,
and all of those histamines inside you make you swell.
So it might just be that.
Or you've just been drinking too much?
No, no more than ever.
Okay.
Definitely not.
Anyway, going back to the care show, I had a few really nice messages after I was on the one show,
I thought was lovely.
Lovely to see you on the One show again, Nat.
Looking lovely.
Looking forward to watching your new show.
We love you.
Jane and daughter Gemma from Birmingham.
Lovely to see you on the One show.
I have already got Monday's programme set to record.
I am a breast cancer nurse and before that a district nurse.
So it'll be such an interesting watch from Stace.
Again, amazing what you do.
Absolutely incredible.
Dagmar said,
I'm so excited for the documentary now.
I've been a carer for 10 years first in the community
and now on an NHS ward in Cardiff.
I couldn't love it more.
It's not an easy vocation
but it gives me so much satisfaction
to be a tiny part of so many people's journey
and hopefully make their days a little better.
I'm very proud of what I do.
It's amazing.
Can't wait to see your experiences.
Thank you, Dagmar.
And again, once you've been in that setting
and once you have days
where you are looking after people
and caring for people,
for people, there is nothing more fulfilling than doing that. You need a lot of empathy and a lot of
care, but if you are that way inclined, there's no better feeling than walking out of somewhere
and thinking, I've helped those people today or I've made them smile. I find it fascinating.
I just think carers are amazing. I had this one as well.
Hey, Nat. How you doing? I've not poisoned in a while, so I thought I'd drop in. I've just
finished listening to your app for your Tony. Brilliant at you talking about carers and stuff
and I'm excited to see the show and it's really interesting what you and Tony were saying
because I'm a care of my mum but I've also got around with my own life as well and I try and do
that when I can and the best I can but people see you know the fun parts of things I post
and all of that rather than all the negative parts so yeah I'm really pleased to
So there's a show about it
and yeah, so I'm excited to see it.
And also about the sleep,
which I can never pronounce
Perilis, this, but you know what I mean.
I do.
I get it quite a lot.
I've not had it in a while.
And I remember the first time I had it.
It was so sweary.
But I thought I was dead.
It was awful.
And I've just got to understand
what I need to do to come out of it.
And so, yeah, if you want someone talk to about it,
I'm here.
Anyway, have a great bank holiday weekend. Enjoy the sunshine. And yeah, I'll see you soon.
Loads of love.
Oh, I love Matty. Thank you, darling, for that.
Did you, because you know, I spoke to Tony about sleep paralysis, darling.
Yeah.
Have you ever had it? I don't think I've asked you before.
Do you feel like you've had it before?
Maybe, yeah.
Yeah?
I've woken up and sort of not been able to move.
Yes.
That's what it is
Yeah
But you can move your eyes
Yeah
What I then try and do
Is sort of shove you
And pull the arm off
And then I can
Honestly
You're such a card
Sorry
You're such a card
Okay
A card
Have you never heard that
No I've heard other things
Look it up
Oh you're such a card
It means you're
Funny
I think
I'm not
though, am I?
I'll find you very funny, very dry.
Okay, that doesn't mean I'm funny.
It's, you know, questionable.
But anyhow, yeah, sleep paralysis, no,
I don't recall that being a subject we've covered.
I was talking to Tony about it.
Yeah, that voice note strikes me as a voice note
to be played in when Tony's sat in this chair.
No, because he was talking about the care show.
Okay.
And he was talking about Mattie's a carer for his mum.
Yes.
And it's really hit a nerve and he's really looking forward to it.
Very good.
And then it leaned on to the sleep paralysis thing.
And I think it's really nice, actually,
to sometimes mix the pods,
talk about things from different pods,
get your opinion on things like lasagnae's.
Would you have those together?
Absolutely not.
Would you have salmon and salad cream together?
Absolutely not.
There you go. Fine.
Is that a sort of high-brow stuff you chat about with?
Who did you chat about?
Me and the girls.
Okay.
Yeah, no
That's odd
Do you shorten people's names?
No
Without asking them
No
What I find really interesting
Yeah
We've had this conversation before
I don't know if we've done it on the pod
Go on
I never call you Nat
I don't think I've ever in my life
In 10 years
Never
Never called you Nat
Never
More than 10 years
So
How many years?
12
So I don't do that
Well saved
Yeah
I don't do that
But what I find interesting
the people when they call you Nat
and they don't really know you.
I think it's a thing now though.
Why is that?
Because I'm Nat Cass on Insta.
Yeah.
I'm just called Nat Cass.
Why is it not Natalie Cassidy on Instagram?
Because I like Nat Cass.
It wasn't taken or...
I think it might have been taken, yeah.
Hmm.
But I've always been Nat Cass.
I've always been sort of shortened to that.
Yeah, I just think it's interesting.
I do.
I think it's because I'm a very likable person.
Okay.
Not blowing my own trumpet.
No, but I think people feel comfortable.
Right.
And they feel like they know me.
So immediately they feel warm and comfortable enough to say,
I'll own that.
Or your name's too long for them to say the whole name.
Three syllables, isn't it?
The old win-lose-or-dra.
No, not win-lose-or-dra.
That was the drawing one with Danny Baker.
I love that show.
What was it?
Give us a clue.
Lionel Blair.
So yeah, it is three syllables.
No one can shorten your name.
No.
M.
Yep.
It goes the other way, as discussed with Elia.
Marcus Galeonus.
Yeah, again, that's just Elia.
Marcus Galeonus or Markey.
Do you know what I mean?
It gets elongated.
It's funny.
People with short names, it goes the other way.
Funny, isn't it?
That's true, yeah.
It's true, yeah.
Strange concept, yeah.
Anyway, yeah, I think it's quite nice to just pick up on a few bits that have been said on other pods
so people know what people are talking about.
Don't you?
I'll tell you something interesting.
I had to go into a massive supermarket chain like two days ago.
And it occurred to me that we needed some dishwasher tablets.
Yes.
So there's like two massive shelves full of dishwasher tablets.
and you had the own brand
and then you had two big brands.
Yep.
Like the biggest brands in...
Dishwasher tablets.
Yeah.
But there are so many different types
within those brands.
Mm-hmm.
So there's like a bag for 55,
there's a bag for 80,
there's a bag for 100.
Yep.
They're all over the place.
Yeah.
And then on top of that,
to confuse matters,
this particular supermarket
it has a club card.
Yep.
And if you use your club card,
then you get a special discount.
Which, let's be honest,
applies to pretty much 90%
probably people that go in there
because everyone's going to have a club card
for that supermarket if they're shopping in there.
So one would be forgiven
for looking at this,
literally the whole shelf from top to bottom,
covered in bags.
And it looks like there's savings on these big bags
and you want to go and buy this big bag.
stop you if I was in the shop,
I would immediately go for a big bag.
Me too. Saving time.
And I always think a bigger bag is going to be cheaper than a small bag.
Of course it is. Always.
So I looked and I didn't look at the main price.
I looked at the price per weight.
Now granted, if you want to be a bit funny about it,
the different types of tablet might weigh different amounts per tablet.
However, I had my heart set on buying a particular type of tablet.
Fair enough.
Which we like.
We know works.
It's actually recommended for our dishwasher.
Which is nonsense.
We shouldn't use any others.
But they've done a deal with the company.
Let's be honest.
It's a dishwasher tablet.
I don't think that's true.
Nonsense.
I think some of them come up misty.
She actually believes it.
No.
Interesting fact.
You only get misty glasses if you have,
Steamy windows.
If you have over-soffened water in the dishwasher, as we know.
If you've got a water softener, plumbed in,
and you're running a dishwasher, and then you add salt to the dishwasher,
the glasses go frosty.
Because that happened.
And for the last five years, we've not put salt in a dishwasher,
and the glasses are perfect.
We're not add a misty glass, have we?
Because we don't add salt,
which we don't need to over-soften our water.
Understood.
Anyway, sorry.
I'm genuinely now struggling to stay awake myself, so I apologise.
However, there were three options.
There was a 55 bag.
Yep.
There was an 80 bag and 100 bag.
The 100 bag had all the pointers saying, this is a big deal.
Get the 100 bag.
I thought, oh, perfect, 100 bag.
Not only a big deal, it's a big bag.
Perfect.
Oh, no.
It was like 14 pound 50 per kilogram.
the 55 bag of the same tablet was 10 pounds, 10 pounds 60 I think it was.
What, per kilogram?
Per kilogram.
So I bought three of those.
Cheaper.
Well, well done you.
Well, so the reason we're bringing this up now is relevant this.
Hang on, hang on.
How many in the big bag?
I'm not talking about numbers.
I just bought three bags per kilogram which is cheaper.
You bet it depends, doesn't it?
Because how many are in there?
So you're saying the big bag
was about 14 quid.
Yeah.
And you're saying the small bag?
No, no, no, no, no, no I didn't say that.
You did?
No, it's 14 quid per kilogram.
Oh.
The bag was about 20 quid.
Oh.
Because I was going to say maybe the three bags
didn't add up to the number of dishwasher tablets in the big bag.
Doesn't matter.
And then you've spent more money and haven't got enough.
Does it matter?
Does it wash the tablets?
No, you're wrong here?
Am I?
Yeah.
Really wrong.
All right.
Because it doesn't matter if the bag had one in it.
If your price per kilogram is cheaper, then by the time you've...
No, you're talking rubbish now.
I can't wait.
You started the podcast, said about people agreeing of you and me.
If one was in a bag...
Oh my God.
And you bought a small bag with 12 in...
Sorry.
Okay.
I'm getting confused now.
Yeah.
Just trust me.
Okay.
Trust me.
I do actually on these sorts of matters.
Okay.
So the point of this is, the price per gram, the milliliter, litre, whatever it might be.
You've got to check that.
That is more important than the overall price.
I do that with cheese.
Exactly that.
I just think it's interesting that these supermarkets, especially the one I was in,
really try and make out buying bulk
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah
This supermarket has got an aisle
For buying in bulk
Specifically
But they make out that this bag of...
Well, don't ever go at people
No, because people think they're saving money
But they're not...
My eyelashes are hurting
And I'll peel them off, do you mind?
Is that all right?
I'm going to be sick.
Sorry, everyone.
Hang on.
Hates the phone.
honestly.
They're, um, look,
eyelashes.
That's really good for the listeners.
The 95% of people...
Oh, I'm sorry, I've taken my eyelashes off.
They're not stupid.
No, you just stuck on your cheeks.
Oh, it's all right.
They don't mind a little bit of that.
The three people that watch this,
you really enjoyed that.
We have a lot of people watching.
Right.
Audio's always, you know,
first and foremost, as we know.
But the amount of makeup I've got on today,
I do enjoy having my makeup done.
Lovely Molly does my makeup.
and I do love feeling good.
Even sitting here now with makeup on and my hair done,
I do enjoy it, I just can't do it, I can't be asked to do it myself.
It's terrible really, isn't it?
Some people are immaculate, they get up every day, they get ready.
If I'm at home all day, not a scrap of makeup goes on, baseball cap.
Mad, isn't it?
Can you hear that noise out there?
We've got the window open because it's hot everybody, right?
people are talking nagging people go mad
as soon as there's a bit of warmth they're out
when I was driving through the West End earlier
you've never seen the pavements like it
I guarantee there was a British bloke walking down the pavement
with a pair of shorts on no shirt
absolutely t-shirt over the shoulder
just walking down the road like it's... Not even over the shoulder
like early this morning it was like minus five
and it was raining
and then later in the afternoon it's like
but the pubs were about 15 deep outside on the pubs
Hovement. You were spilling into the road. It was mad. Nice. Nice, though. Nice for people.
Well, it's that the time of year now. We're getting there now.
What are we going to do this weekend? I know we've got the live show in Hartford.
Yes. But Saturday night, how about a little barbecue? Just asked we can be in the garden.
We haven't sat in the garden yet on a hot night.
No, we haven't, no. We need to do that this weekend. I'll be bitten alive by mosquitoes.
But you won't talk about it though. You know, you know, won't spoil anything.
Absolutely bitten alive.
K-fea was shocking.
But I'll power on for her again this summer.
Do you know what blew my mind tonight?
No.
What are you tapping for?
Do you know, I did a shop today on these tenders, of someone doing that?
Right.
No, just thought I'd share.
Tapping on the table, impatiently waiting.
I think she was just, I don't know what she was doing.
Fine.
I don't know why you've, like, fuck, you've called me out on that.
Honestly, I'm just talking.
No, it's fine.
I just was wondering when I speak, could you not tap?
Fine.
Someone's having a right old knack out there.
Don't worry about it.
We won't hear it.
Our listeners won't hear it.
Maybe they will if they turn their radio really loud.
I mean, let's be honest,
if they're that interested in that conversation that's happening like 300 meters away
when we're talking, I don't think we need to worry because we've lost them.
That is true, but I want to know who's out there.
I'm so nosy.
They've having a full-scale conversation.
Where are they?
And it's a woman.
Hang on.
It's a woman as well.
Is it a neighbour?
Something going on.
Have a little look.
It's worth doing that, isn't it?
We haven't had any messages, have we, in the neighbour's WhatsApp group?
Let's have a look.
Check it out.
No.
Have a look.
Oh, he's getting on a chair and he's looking out the window for everyone who's...
Oh, it's just...
It's quarter to 11 in the evening.
Well, I can't hear anything.
It's gone quiet now.
Classic.
It's gone quiet.
Fair enough.
You sure it's not Eliza?
No, no, it's not.
I've got a nice view of your bottom here.
It's absolutely silent.
You can all of me.
All right, then.
Okay.
That was really good, don't it?
Really worth the effort.
Nice to look, though.
No, it sounded a bit, I don't know,
like two women talking.
I thought it might be a couple of people
from the village that we know.
I mean, who said moving to a village,
just like nosing and on neighbor?
I mean, that is ridiculous.
Tom's book,
when you think the novel, because it's all about neighbours and all of that.
Yeah.
And then I thought we're really lucky with our neighbours.
Sorry?
We're very lucky.
Some people don't have good neighbours.
Some people have a nightmare.
My mum and dad...
I bet I'm not the only person who's theme tune in their head.
Oh, why did I say exactly the line?
I think so.
But it really went into my head then.
Fine.
That's when good neighbours, because...
Best friends.
Good friends. It is good friends.
I've worked out. Forget things, don't you?
I know you have. You've mentioned it a few times on the pod.
Okay, well, there's probably people listening.
I've never listened to that episode, so there you go.
Some new info for you.
Fantastic.
I've made a massive mum error this morning.
Got up so early, didn't I?
Had my shower, had my hair wash.
Yeah, he did.
Came downstairs.
Molly was here.
Started doing everything.
You went to work.
Joni's up.
Joni's ready.
Chatting away and I went,
20 past seven.
I said, Molly, run up the stairs.
Eliza, fast asleep.
I'd not remember to wake her up.
But also, I think, at her age,
I do say to her, have you got an alarm set?
No, I'm sorry.
She should be waking herself up.
Good question for the next time I do a podcast.
Yeah.
So with children, what's worse?
Your teenagers, or you're like,
you know, you're pre-teenagers,
of eight, nine-year-olds?
What about toddlers?
What's harder?
Or toddlers.
What's hardest?
What would your answer to that question be?
I need more of a question.
Okay.
Are we talking about...
What's harder?
No, no, no.
And Joni or Eliza?
Harder, as in mentally,
physically, how tired I am.
Both.
It depends.
Mentally and emotionally, and the worry is the teenager.
Okay.
Joney's age, I think, is really good age.
Really, really great.
7, 8, 9, even 6, 7, 8, 9, lovely age.
Not worried about them.
I'm worried about them emotionally, but there's nothing going on.
They're not going out on their own.
They're not worried friendship groups are okay.
You know, I've been fortunate to have that experience.
Toddlers, fucking nightmare, exhausting.
You have to run around after them.
We can't sit down absolutely exhausting, although I sat with James whilst Elia popped out to get her nails done the other day.
And I just sat and played with James for an hour and 45 minutes with his train set, with sticker book.
We played with his shark toy dinosaurs.
And he was so placid and so well behaved.
absolutely so lovely
to just sit and play
and actually all kids need
is time
when I was doing the sticker book with him
I felt like
you know I'll get a bit
worry about
you know
losing the children
I can't help it
I'm a bit deep like that
but when I was doing the stickers with him
losing the children
yeah sort of them growing up
moving out
not as in like where is he
no
right okay yeah
No, but when I started doing the stickers with him, I thought,
I loved doing the CBB's magazines for the girls.
You can still do them.
One of my highlights, though.
You could have asked for them for your birthday.
I do really like them.
I wish they're adult sticker books.
Is that weird?
They're there.
What do you mean?
I don't think they're appropriate for a discussion, though, on the podcast.
They're on adult.
What do you mean?
I think they are.
Why are your eyebrows raised?
Tell me.
Just like adult sticker books?
No, there aren't.
are there?
Yeah.
What, you can get stickers?
Yeah.
What, like a football album?
Yeah.
What, I've liked pornography?
I made that up.
Oh, have you?
You sure?
I'm sure it's a thing.
I've just sort of invented it,
but someone else has invented that, I would imagine.
Right, okay.
He just made me laugh when he said adult stickle book,
so of course I thought adult sticker book.
Adult, you know.
Well, me and Joanie have got the football sticker book from Marxist.
Okay.
But yeah, I loved the CB's.
was one of my favourite things to do.
To sit down...
I've always loved stickers.
When I was little, I used to have a...
sticky label.
Sticky label.
Did you have used a pricing label machine
when you were a kid?
My dad was a news agent,
so I was obsessed with the pricing machine.
Okay.
I was obsessed with the pricing gun
and the rolls of sticky yellow labels
where he'd put the 99P on, 20P on whatever.
And then I'd...
have a roll and he'd bring the roll home and as a child as a baby toddler i'd have them all i'd
roll them all and that'd be that's my that was my comfort i'd chab him up my nose in my ears
sticky label sticky label so i think i've always loved stickers even now if there's a banana
peel off the label on ice so i think i've got a thing about stickers okay so yeah um maybe for
next time we do a podcast it'd be interesting to know what people think about their
Children.
I think it would be.
I think toddlers is really hard.
Newborns is really hard.
456, 7, 8 is hard.
In fact, it's all really fucking hard.
All of it.
All parenting is hard.
You should do more parenting on this podcast.
I agree, actually.
But I also know that the children
love us dearly
and don't mind us doing the pod.
but I'd certainly not sit here and talk about Eliza's life now
when she's nearly 16. It's not my business too.
No.
That's fair enough.
We can talk about parenting, but then...
I think most people texting, though, probably haven't got a podcast
where they talk about their children.
I'm just interested in their thoughts on like the whole...
No, you just said you should talk about parenting more on your podcast.
Yeah.
But I'm saying I don't...
We don't talk about it a lot, do we?
No, I think you're right.
Could catch on that.
A podcast about parenting and the tribulations and trials and...
I don't think they...
The difficulties. Parenting difficulties.
I don't think they need an advert, to be quite honest with you.
What advertising?
What did you think about lovely Mr. Whittaker being a judge on Strictly?
I think it's excellent.
Yeah?
Where do you think he's going to be?
Where's he going to be?
In George Lucas stage at Elstree Film Studios between September and December,
2006.
Where in the vicinity?
Do you think he's going to be?
George Lucas 2.
Do you think he's going to be downstairs
or upstairs?
How do you know there's downstairs and upstairs?
They're going to completely re-change it.
What are you talking about?
There's not going to be three of them downstairs?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
Well, it used to be just two of them downstairs
and one of them would go upstairs.
Correct.
So you think that there's going to be two downstairs and one upstairs?
I think it's going to be Emma
Johannes downstairs.
Okay. Josh is Claudia.
Other way around. Go on.
It will be Emma and Josh.
Yeah. And Johannes will be upstairs.
How are they going to do a two shot?
I've thought about this. No, no, no. I'm being serious.
No, the height difference is insane.
That's why I think he's got to be on his own.
You can't say that.
He's very small, Josh.
He's my height.
He's short from you, actually.
I'm not being rude
Emma Willis is a
beautiful
lengthy giraffe
type person, gazelle
Oh my God, you're doing well here
They will understand
I tell you now
If this went out
And they heard it
Which I won't
They would understand
What I was saying
She is very lengthy
Hang on
Like when they used to do Shritley
You had tests
And Claude
And they were both downstairs
And then one of them went upstairs
Yeah she's shorter
actually clod
but she had very high heels on
what are you talking about
I just think the height difference
of Josh and Emma
maybe she can wear brogues
or flats
maybe Josh could wear platforms
yeah he could actually
peristolettos
anyway it's relevant
I'm not being rude about them
I know them both personally
and I think they're amazing
and as I said last week
it couldn't have gone to three nice people
so I'm bomb happy about it
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, good.
Well, I did film Josh's stand-up on Saturday.
How did it go?
It's very good.
Yeah?
Very funny.
Oh, good.
When's it on?
I've got no idea.
Brilliant.
But it was a very good show.
I look forward to watching it.
I'd look forward to Hackney Empire.
Never been there before.
That was good.
Nice theatre?
Lovely theatre.
Yeah.
Is it music hallish?
I don't know.
It just looked like a theatre, to be honest.
Fair.
In fact, actually, I've got a comment on that, actually.
Yeah.
Beautiful theatre with like murals and, oh, it was really nice, really ornate and, like, nice place.
The thing it was a shame about it, very apparent when it was empty during the day, it was dark,
somebody had, in like UV pen or paint, on the back of all the seats,
written the numbers on the seats
but when the lights were up you couldn't see it
right when the lights were down
you could just see the faintest glow of the numbers
I think that's quite clever for people who have gone to the toilet
so
you know when somebody paints
the number on their wheelie bin really badly
oh is that what they look like
and it was like painted on with the paint dripping down
Oh, no.
Someone had very quickly just gone around to all of these seats
and just blathered the numbers on.
Oh, that's a shame.
So when the theatre's empty and the lights are all down,
it looks like they've been graffiti on.
Oh, I see.
Really bad.
Red velvet?
No, it's like a hardwood backing of the seat
where they've painted it on.
Understood.
So I'd imagine it's done for someone,
not an, I was going to say, umpire.
What are the people that walk around with the...
Usher.
An usher.
Like an usher with a torch
would eat
quickly find a seat.
I get it.
I get what they've done.
But it could have just been
a bit neater.
They could have just been
a bit of time on it.
Maybe a finer
brush.
Or a sticker
or a sign writer
could have done it.
But it just really looked a bit
like,
ooh, the whole place
that's a beautiful
and then on the back
of these seats it was like
29
for like paint running down the back.
How was it?
Right.
Well, do you know what?
On that note,
it's been a lovely pod.
Has it?
enjoyed it. That's good.
Live shows are out this week, by the way, for the autumn.
They are indeed.
So we've got to give it a plug.
Because I've plugged everything else tonight that isn't mine.
I'll leave you to plug it.
Well, in the autumn, we're in Bishop Stortford.
Hang on a minute.
What?
When?
I don't know the dates.
It's too far away.
You need a producer.
I've got 450,000 things to do in the next three.
days. I don't remember the dates
of those shows.
South Mill Arts,
Bishop Stalkford.
18th of October.
You're reading it, darling.
Fortune Theatre in Covent Garden
on November the 8th.
Brilliant.
The Demb...
Demb? D-E-M-B-E. I would say Demby.
Demby Theatre in Tring.
Tring?
On the 15th of November.
There we go.
That's our three shows.
Three shows?
What about a Christmas one?
That is a Christmas one.
In Tring?
No, the Fortune Theatre.
Oh, Covent Garden.
Yes.
That'll be the big one.
That'll be getting ready for Christmas.
You're right, Natalie.
What are you looking at?
No, the window's got to be closed because I'm going to get bitten alive now because the lights run in here.
There are no bugs in here.
Yes, I've just seen one.
I've just seen a mosquito.
So there's a link to the Life with Natpod.comi, k-oami.
click on that link
do me a favour when this pod
comes out can you please go on that page
can you firstly try and book some tickets for the Christmas show
and also try and buy a cap or something
that has flown by
hasn't that flown by and it's actually five past
11 and I need to be in a car at 6am
so I need to get out of here
I'm just saying I've got to get out of here
we're in for a great evening
I've got to take all my makeup off and I need to get into bed
immediately great
Brilliant
Can't wait
And we haven't even started
The Rivals yet
Where we've been too busy
Really want to start that
Perhaps we can do that tomorrow
Brilliant
Yeah
I've got to get up at 515
Okay, yeah
I need to go to bed
Yeah
Why are you looking like that
Well, it wasn't my idea to do a podcast
We've got to get one in
Can't let people down
Can we
Can we?
got to do it
anyway
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thank you so much
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thank you
we haven't got to go to bed
straight away, you know.
What do you mean by that?
Well, we can spend a bit of time together if you like.
We've done an hour and ten minutes together.
I think we're fine.
Fair enough.
See you, everybody.
Bye.
