Life with Nat - EP231: Nagging with Auntie Linny #26 - ageing is a privilege

Episode Date: May 31, 2026

Nat and Linny discuss ageing and have lots of messages from listeners with their views. Nat wants linny to do a bungee jump, they talk about not caring about what others think and have a laugh about Nat’s hair. Enjoy!Get in touch with Nat, buy tickets for upcoming live shows and find the family on Instagram: ⁠https://lifewithnatpod.komi.io/⁠ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Well, we've just started and it sounds like Stansford Airport. Welcome to Live from Nat on this lovely Monday morning. We have got the windows open again because it's rather stifling in the pod room. The airconies are coming. I'm bored of talking about it. I'm here with Auntie Linney, my beautiful sister-in-law. How are you? Oh, I'm good.

Hi, everyone. Yeah, I feel like I've seen a lot of you this week. You have seen a lot of me this week, especially on the hot days. Goodness me, we did well on Sunday. But it was a nice aircon theatre, wasn't it? It was lovely. A lovely venue. So nice.

Hartford Beam, get yourselves down there. They have so much on. So much on. It's lovely. It's really lovely. Cinema, beautiful calf, and then soap comedians, lots of plays, lots of children's shows. Brilliant. Definitely need to go ourselves.

One of my work colleagues said, what was going on in Hartford on Sunday? There was just hordes of women, just pouring. I said, well, that would be our pod. It was such a lovely show though, wasn't it? The show was lovely. The couple of hours after was lovely. It was a hot one, wasn't it? It was just brilliant.

What a lovely day to remember. Because it's slightly different to all the other live pods because we actually got to spend a couple of hours socialising with some of the listeners that had come along and our friends. And yeah, Camilla, obviously. and Sam. My Alice. Bless her.

Lovely girls. And yeah, Camilla got me a present. I haven't opened it yet because it's not my birthday quite yet. So I will thank her personally. So it was lovely. What a cracking day. It was so nice. And everyone, I've had some lovely messages from people just saying how intimate it felt

and how relaxed we all were. And maybe that was being local and not having to travel too far. And I know that lots of you don't live local to us, but it is nice. It does make a difference, doesn't it? The old journey of 10 minutes. Oh my God. It was so nice to get in that cab.

And no, you didn't have a four-hour journey home. You took a nice photo of me, didn't you? Sorry, I had to, guys. She was very tired. She had a couple of beveragesies too many. The sun got to her head. We didn't eat? Really did we.

No. That was our fault. I had one cheese and chorizo. Yeah, yeah, I did much the same. Yeah, I remember walking through the door and thinking, I've got some lasagna, left over lasagna. I was starving alive.

Dave was out. I opened the fridge door and the lasagna wasn't there. Oh, no. Awful feeling. I'm like, why don't you start crying? But no, it was such a lovely day.

Yeah, and yeah, shout out to one of my clients. Lucy B, her mum, Natalie. Oh, yeah, lovely. I had a little chat with her today. She's... Good. And lovely Helen from where? Yeah.

With Tony Frequency. I'll shout you out as well. The Joes. Two Joes came along. So, yeah, no, lovely. And all of you, remember the three shows are now on sale for the end of the year, October and November. You can find the links in my bio on the combie. Don't ask me what it is.

On the comie. I've got no idea. It's all been set up. I'm absolutely so drastic when it comes to these things. I think Bishop Storper is already doing well. I've got a lot of friends that have already booked tickets. And Lisa's already booked a load of tickets. Lovely.

Yeah, don't leave it too long because they, I mean, it's a bigger capacity than Hartford. It is. But they may well sell quickly, so. Let's hope so. Yeah, come and see us. We'll have some fun. Your birthday next week? Yeah, it's a shame, isn't it?

Oh, I just, yeah. It's not great, is it, at this time of your life? Unfortunately, guys, don't want to put a doom. Do you know what it is as well? I just don't want to celebrate it. It's not that I don't celebrate it. I just don't get what the big deal is. Yeah, I'm not.

massive, just like I'm doing Sunday. So this is the other thing, my dear friends out there. So my birthday is Monday week. But Maria is away. Well, she gets back on the Monday. So I was going to do so on the Sunday.

And Dave is away. So I thought, well, I'll do it this Sunday. So to get the family around you, Natalie, obviously, and her crew. But Dave's also away again this Sunday. So I've just had to bite the bullet and do it this Sunday, so at least Maria and the kids are there. Yeah.

Just to get us all together. To market and more for the grandchildren. But yeah, for me, I just... Well, that's why we put a shout out today. I know. We were like, what do we talk about? What should we discuss? Natalie said, oh, let's talk about... Aging. Oh, no. Just ageing in general.

It's such a big thing because it's not about getting old. It's how you feel about it. And we've spoken before at our live grief pod that obviously people haven't all seen. And that fear of missing out, which I think is very interesting that we should talk about. Yeah, well, I've voiced that on the live show, didn't I? Which I think was quite a brave thing to do. My fear is, obviously, I'm the eldest one in our little family unit.

When I say our family unit, I mean your family, Natalie, my family, Tony's family, out of like the Cassidy side, I'm the eldest. Not by much, but I am the eldest. And I just think, oh, realistically, I should be the first to go because I'm the eldest. And that would be the right thing. And that's in the right order. I just feel like I'd be missing out everything you guys are doing. And I just find it weird that I wouldn't be here.

And I'm a control freak. Like you, we want to look after everyone. We want to make sure everyone's okay. But life will still roll on without us. Of course it will. Just like it has for us. And our parents died way younger than us than we already are. And we were younger.

So, yes, of course, life goes on and everyone. The ageing process is a really weird thing because it just kind of creeps up on you. Well, let's have some messages. Yeah, do it. And then we can talk off of those. Yeah. Hey, Nat and Lynne, not a first-time listener.

I've listened from the beginning, but first time voice noter and actually first time any message. I love yours and Linney's podcasts. I haven't actually got a favourite because I love them all. I always think, do I love the nieces or you and Mark, Lini, Tony, but actually love them all. Just your note about ageing. I am 56, I'll be 57 next year.

And I lost my mum last January. So until that point, I was sort of embracing it. And I felt good for my age, going out and doing stuff. But mum passed quite suddenly. She thought it was a chest infection turned out to be cancer. It was ovarian cancer. And she was only 75. And we only had her for about six weeks.

So it's quite a shock. But the thing, I think the point I'm trying to make is until that point, I just thought my mum would live on until like she was 90. My nan lived into her 90s on that side. And I just thought my mum would be like that. And then I would be like that. But since my mum's gone and my dad passed away as well and he was 70, I just keep thinking, am I not going to get, you know,

and if I only got like 20 years left, it's really weird. But yeah, so ageing, I don't feel as confident as I did prior to mum. but yeah I sort of embrace life I work full time bit like lini always busy we love our holidays and most recently I've really got into a skincare routine and using some proper products just to make yourself feel better I think but yeah I just wanted to make that point about you know until my mum died I was literally thinking you know everybody's living into their 90s and because she passed, which I think is quite early at 75. It's got me thinking, but I don't want to be morbid,

but that was my thoughts on it. Loving the pod, as always. And, yeah, I hope you're enjoying the heat net. Sorry, I don't think I said my name. My name's Tracy, age 56. I think that is a really good point. And I think because of our losses, death is in our lives.

So we weren't fortunate enough to have really elderly grandparents. I never knew a granddad. My nun's died before I was 11. You know, losing people does make you aware of mortality. Absolutely. Yeah, like Tracy said, her mum was at only 75. Now, to a young person, 75 seems ever so old. She's right.

Tracy's 75 is no age. You're still young. I don't feel whatever it is you're meant to feel when you're fast approaching 63. Stavros that worked today was talking about having a game of paddle. Yeah, I'm right up for that. It's so good to be surrounded by young people because I do think that keeps you young. I do genuinely believe there is a thing in that. The girls at work will say you're very young for your age, not just physically,

but mentally my approach about life, how I'm not invisible at work. I'm, you know, they have a little, one particular young man has a little joke about my age, Jamie Chigarillo. Oh, right, I'm from his car. It was like the boss's son. He will always, he's a bit ages. But he's only doing it because he knows, he doesn't believe it. Because he talks to me like we're mates. So I think, again, I'm very blessed that I work with quite a young crowd.

You know, they range in age from 24 to 41, too. So it's quite a young group. and that keeps me young. Having the girls, having Dominic, having Annalisa, you're surrounded by young people, you, Natalie, you know, we're very close. You're 20 years younger than me. Of course, yeah.

So that all keeps your mindset young and equally physically. I think there's a really good saying and I can't remember what it is, which is a real shame, but it's to do with the people you surround your, you're as good as the people you surround yourself with. And I think you're right

And I think this is why really young people going into elderly care homes, for instance, is amazing. It does something for both of them. It's amazing, really, who you surround yourself with and that can change your,

just the way you feel and the way you think. Yeah, but that's in any aspect of life. Your brother David has always said if you surround yourself with the right people, enhances your own life. That's true even with the age thing to a fashion. You know, if you're, you know,

if all of say your friends are way older than you and that's all your circle of friends, you're naturally going to, not morph into, but you're doing. Oh, you'll be doing the things that they're doing. Whereas with younger people, you're kind of trying to keep up with them and the banter is young.

Yeah, I, a billion percent. do not feel my age physically. There are times when I think God. But then again, when I break down what I do, I do as much as my kids do. Oh, you're joking. And some. I've got seven kids around tomorrow.

Yeah, it's crazy. You know? You like the child catcher from Chitty Chitty-chitty-bang. Get yourself one of those old cars. Oh, jit-chis-banging. But I want to embrace it because in 10 years' time, I might not be able to do that. So you've got to take life.

by the horns and you've got to do as much as you can while you can. Absolutely. It's very true. Age is just a number. Yes. And I think we've got so much better with it in the workplace in particular where, you know, you can't be seen to be aged. Well, also, people are working for a lot longer.

People are working a lot older. But I, someone of, and I'm sure you'll be reading out shortly, someone wrote in or voiced noted in about how you become invisible. and I never quite understood it because I never made my dad feel invisible. No. And he died at age two and he was great company. I loved his company.

So I never quite understood when people used to say that but I sort of feel it a little bit at times. Yeah. Predominantly with Maria's not going to lie me for this. But say when like you girls might be chatting and I'll say something And I just feel like, am I actually, I'm not being heard or listened to or, because you've got free, no, that's not criticism. But I kind of get it. You're free young women, all of the same age, whether you're discussing the pod or whether you're discussing a holiday or whether you're discussing what to wear, whatever it may be, that whatever you, and I don't mean you three in particular, whatever that that crowd is that's chatting, your opinion isn't valid because you're 20 years older. I know, actually.

Been here longer. Been there, done it, got the T-shirt, and probably got more experience. We have more knowledge, more life skills. Older people shouldn't be invisible. No. Older people are wise. A wise.

And you know that because you like listening and chatting. Oh, yeah. And the stories. But I get why it happens. But young people could learn from that. Absolutely. Now, because we're having this discussion, when I reflect back to my relationship with my dad in his latter years and his brother, who was 11 years younger than him, I felt like they were my age. Well, I did with dad. We had our ups and downs, as you do, but I, like the company sitting playing Scrabble, watching the golf, having a drink, listening to music. He was my friend.

Yeah. How lucky were we? Very. So lucky. Yeah. Because I don't think a lot of people have that. I never felt like my dad and his brother, who lived in different countries, I hasten to add. I never felt like, I'd go to Italy, say, and my uncle would go, right, where do you want to go? And I'd go, right, what should we go to go to say? I would like to go and visit this, auntie.

But it wasn't a chore. I loved being with him. If he had said to me, me and you were going to go to the beach for five days, just me, I would have been so happy. I loved his company. And he was young in himself. He was active. He was, you know, he had a, I could see so much of me in him. And very good company.

So, yeah, they shouldn't be dismissed. I know some, you know, as you get to a certain age, you might get a bit cantankerous and you might, you know. And you might not grasp IT as quick as a 24-year-old. No, but also you get older, you lose your confidence a little. It's a bit slower. Yeah. Going out is harder.

I'm talking about, you know, oxygenarians now. Yeah, of course. It's a busy world. Yes. And the world has changed so much. No, it's interesting. Listen to this.

Hey Nat and Auntie Linney, growing old. When I'm 64 on the 1st of June, well, happy birthday, because it's today. Thank you. Oh, happy birthday. Thank you for listening and happy birthday. How the hell that happened, I have no idea. The way I look at it is,

I can't stop it, so you have to roll with it. I try and keep fit with walking, but I wait train every day is that's so important for us girls. I don't want to be a couch potato, with three grandchildren soon to be seven, five and four, I need to be active. Plus, like Liny, I work full-time two in a pressurized job. My life's not been an easy one, but you can be a survivor or a victim, and there's no way I'm being the latter. Domestic abuse, then you couldn't make it up, but coercive control and bullying with another X. Had my two reasonably young, so got my life back when I was still young enough to enjoy it. This ain't no dress rehearsal, live life every day, my cup is always half full,

that's a positive in everything, sometimes that you may not see that, but life's taught me that. Lastly, I no longer chase people, you soon find out who true friends are. Lots of love to you too, but also to the whole family who keep me so entertained. And that's from Jane. What a brilliant, Jane, we could be twinnies. I'm a year younger than you though, Jane Soz. What a lovely message. It's great.

And so much of what she has said in her message resonates with you. Not the coercive part and all of that, thankfully. So sorry that you've had to go through that, Jane. Again, she's had two relationships, obviously awful, got back up on the horse. And you can tell she's a glass, very full woman. I love the fact that she's walking next. exercising, embracing life, full-time job. But again, I am a true.

Sure you've not messaged me. No, I know. No, no, it doesn't. She's very, we have very similar outlook. And she's spot on. And I do truly believe that the more active you are, the younger, it does keep you. Lyn, I have to say to you, I have times where I feel so tired.

And really, really. But that's okay too. I know. But then I'll have a really busy period like last week, doing all the press for the dock and all of that. Up at 5 o'clock every day, busy, busy. Got more energy. Yes. The busier I am, the more energy I have.

Completely. I do believe that must be a thing. Because as soon as you slow down, you just get used to a certain pace of life. I think you're right. Whereas when, I mean, yeah, because your brother says it. Your brother says, please rest. And I go, but if I stop, that's it, I'm done. So I'm just going to keep on going, really.

No, I get it. I mean, it is in your makeup to a degree. You're either that person or you're not. But I think it's good for you. And as you get older, I think it's so important as well. But also, you don't, you're not stopping, but you find time for yourself each day with the walking. And that is your therapy.

Massively. It's huge for you. It's important. A, I need to be moving because I've been sitting on my backside for nine hours. So it's important that I do some exercise and I enjoy it and I'm out in the fresh air, whether it's raining, snowing or sunny like it's been today. With or without my friend Tina, I will walk. I enjoy it.

Walk tonight? Yeah. With that on? Yeah, and trainers. Planers. Got a waistcoat on though. I'm 26 degrees. No, it was all right tonight.

I know. I took that on. Oh, you did take it off. No. Fetters. I don't think it, I think the temperature, well, I think the breeze has been lovely today. Yeah, no, it has been nice. No, I literally finish work at six.

Well, I have to shoot off a little bit earlier because Tina now gets off the train at 20 past six. By 20 past six, I've met her, we do our 45 to an hour's walk. And then go home, I'll see to the dog. I do X. I do Y, do Z. I've come here. I'm on the go. It's, you know, tomorrow I've got a day of it. But as you say, then when I get that opportunity, so like your brother's going away Friday, Friday night, I'm on my own. I will rest Friday night. But then I say this and Amy said to me,

because I said to her on Monday, because obviously we had a busy Sunday, I had a busy Saturday. I said, and Monday, and I'm a sun worshipper, which isn't good for people of any age, but I am. So I've got to have advice, haven't I? And I said to Amy, I'm going to lock myself in on Monday. Yeah, all right. And I'm not going anywhere. All the best. Yeah. That didn't happen. I hasten to know how much for that. I ended up being an unpaid sofa for the kids. But listen, I guess if I didn't want to do it, I wouldn't do it.

Of course. And I do grab the opportunity to rest when the opportunity is there. We need a nice spa a couple of days, don't we? I would love that. Nice when we go off. We do need to do that. See, that's a lovely. Switch off. Really nice.

Yeah. Hi, Nat. I've just seen your message. It's Julie from Rayleigh here. Ah. Happy birthday early, I think, for Lynne. Oh, thank you. Just to say about ageing, I think it's really can be the other person's point of view.

I find having turned 60, it's people's sort of judgment. And I think really it's your own state of mind, you know, if you keep young and you keep active, health permitting, of course. It's your outlook on life. But I do find that other people's judgment in terms of if you try and change your job, or it's a bit late now, you might as well hang on. well that's all very well but that's like another seven years now isn't it now they've moved the retirement age regards of leaving children and that behind when you know it's your turn to go you can just make them as independent as strong as you can and you know you know they'll survive

and that you'll live on in them but yeah like you say it's a big subject and there's lots to unpick there but yeah i think sometimes people are quite judgmental with age oh she must be over here well we won't include her or she's not this she's not that uh or he must whatever. Love Sunday, love the pod and happy birthday, Linney. Take care. Bye. Lovely, Julie. Oh, so she came to the live. Yes, she did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you, Julie. And again, she's picked, she's honed in on something which you kind of people dismiss you. Isn't it awful? When if you actually, so you put yourself in this situation, look what you are to the UK. Yeah.

You're known to most people in the country because of EastEnders. you're an integral part of the family unit, the kids adore you, my grandkids adore you, you've got your brothers, you've got sister-in-law, you've got it all going on. And then in 20 years' time, you're just sort of not that important anymore because you're 60. I think it's changing. It needs to change. It's changing dramatically. Yeah, I don't hope so.

Because I think you are right in your first comment of age is just a number. and you have to keep yourself going, keep yourself out there, and just make sure you're making a load of noise so you're not invisible. Yeah, yeah. Because as women, we have to do that enough throughout our whole life. Yeah. So the age thing, I think, is just another thing for us to deal with, but we're very, very strong as women.

And I think it is changing. It's a tough one, isn't it? It's a tough one because of all the changes that we go through mentally and physically. Of course. Prior to coming here, I was like flicking through my photographs because I'd taken some, I don't know what, may have been your brother 60th. And you feel like you have an age and then you reflect back on some of these photographs and you think, crikey. Really?

Yeah. I don't know, in some I actually think I look better now than what I did then. But yeah, it's the speed at which this time I feel between 40 and 60 for me has gone. it blows my mind. I just don't know where those 20 years have gone. I cannot comprehend that we are going to be celebrating Maria's 40th. For those of you that didn't know that, because she may have mentioned it once or twice.

I can't believe that... You've got a daughter who's 40. Yeah. I still remember my 40th like it was yesterday. I've still got the dress I wore for my 40th in a box, nicely folded up. I will keep forever. I feel like it was like three years ago.

Yeah, I do think time flies. We know that though, don't we? That's why you... Look at this year. We were halfway through the year. Oh no, it's mad. And I just want to slow it down a little bit. I know.

And that's the other thing with when you're busy. When you're busy, life just whizzies by so much quicker. Yeah, I feel like my... Now I'm not at work 100 miles an hour. It does feel slower. Does it, Natalie? Life feels bit slower. Yeah, right.

Is it polar opposite for me? Because I'm doing nice things. Yeah. At a slower pace, maybe more time at home. Just organising things. Oh, yeah. You know. Look at the last two days.

I've been absolutely blessed to be able to just sit in the garden with earlier. With the children. I'm not saying, you know, you work. You're running after them and cooking for them. Well, you've been around half term for the kids. But yeah, I've organised my diary. So this week I'm around. And yes, last week was a really busy week.

But I knew I had this coming. Whereas before, it's just a gerbil wheel of, it's just relentless. And I guess that's the other thing, isn't it? It's that when you get to this sort of age, you feel like you've got to have the right balance. Obviously, there are, like the lady said earlier, you know, many women have got to work now until they're 67 because that's when they get their state pension. Of course, absolutely. So certainly no one should be agist at work because some people have no choice about to work until they're 67. Some people choose to work.

And also, again, the aging thing, something we haven't spoken about. and I know you've watched all the care but if you look at someone like in episode four of my program Lisa and Gary and Lisa was my age and she has MS and life has completely changed and there are so many people living with things at a young age.

At a young age that you do forget I think well again we're very fortunate in many ways but again that couple Natalie, they've embraced what's happened to them. Oh, they've been amazing. They're just getting on with it. I just cried all the time. No, so.

It's brilliant. For those of you that haven't watched it, you want to have a little binge watch. You can watch all four of them in one go like I did. Well, tonight, today, sorry, the next four are out. So there'll be eight on, from today onward. Oh, right, so I can watch the next four. Oh, amazing.

So, yeah, there's eight. Yeah, so it was a very good one. It was brilliant, actually, Natalie. Thank you. You were amazing in it. It's just very real, isn't it? It was so real. It took the words right out of my mouth, actually.

It felt very real. It just felt like, yeah, I wasn't even watching you on a screen. And just all the different scenarios. And the young girl that you were at college with, Tilly. Tilly. She'd come across very mature. But look what she's having to do. She's doing it selflessly.

Wants to support and help her mom, adores and loves her mom. Carried from such a young age for her mom. And how must her mom feel that? her daughter's having to look up. Could you email it? But then she's chosen. To do it for a profession. Yeah, I know.

The empathy that people have. That's why you have got to be a certain type of person, don't you think? Well, it's the empathy. Yeah. It's the experiences you've gone through. Yeah. How much you've loved doing that. Yeah.

That you want to continue to do it. And I guess how rewarding she must feel Tilly. Absolutely. So she probably thinks I could actually do this now for a living. Because I find it so fulfilling, so rewarding. And that's why. we have the situation where the money's not very good, in my opinion, because these people have so much empathy

and want to do it. And it's a hard job to do. But it's not about the money for them. No. It's about fulfilment. Yes. Yeah. So that's why it is the way it is.

And it shouldn't be. No. We should be rewarding these people. I know. But again, that's no different with nurses and... That's it. No, all of... O'S upset, all the people that I...

All of what I've... experienced and the people that I've seen, all of them. And then you go to a bigger level, all the volunteers that do it in their spare time. Yeah, amazing. Charities. That, they're squeezing it in. I can't believe it. I always remember chatting to a client years ago, he'd come in, he was discussing his property

and he said, oh, I'm retired, but I do, and he drove his vehicle and he would drive. his vehicle and he would drive elderly people to and from hospitals which was a service that the NHS provide and he would do that and I was like oh what a lovely kind of thing there are so many people

but you don't realise to you out there the roles that there are for people that's like St John's Ambulance yeah that is so ridiculous how naive I didn't know that St John's Ambulance was a charity

charity yeah I really didn't I'm sorry. But why would we know? You just see people, you see paramedics at things, you see vans. I really didn't know until I did this course. Giving up their weekends. Yeah.

It's going to look after people. You don't know what you're going to face. No, no. Go to work a week. Yeah, this is special. I guess we've had a little taste of it, and I mean, I'm not comparing it to what all these people are doing genuinely. But our grief pods, for me, the feeling, I get once when we do a grief pod

But from our tragic experiences And they were tragic We are We're able to just maybe give something back Well open that conversation And make people feel That they can talk about grief Which is

Yeah Brilliant So imagine how they must feel Yeah that's how you feel Imagine for them Based on what they do And it's hardcore what they do Genuine he is

I'm Nat and Lynne Yvonne from County Cork in Ireland here Aging It's a privilege I'm 51 and I've had three spine surgeries in the last 15 years And yesterday I had a melanoma removed Wear your SPF in the sun

I was always a person hiding in the shade And it has still caught me And nothing makes you think about Aging or mortality More than having a medically reason to I'm not bothered about wrinkles or grey hairs I have them And I'll use the lotions and the potions

to try and stay healthier looking and a little less wrinkly. But the good side of ageing is that I don't give a shit anymore what anyone thinks about how I look. I worry about the people I leave behind if I did die. Of course I do. I don't have children, so I don't have that, but my husband will be lost without me. He hasn't got any family nearby, and neither of us have many friends just each other.

A workmate of mine who was in these 70s and still working. I always said, every day I can get up and pull on my own trousers is a good day, and that's not a bad motto. Do things while you can. Don't keep putting them off. The day might not come. Sorry if that's a bit morbid.

Love the pod. Love listening to Toovey and all the others. Tony, Mark, Net's nieces. Love it all. Bye. Oh, bless. Again, lovely. Another cracking voice now.

That ones I can pull on my trousers. And that's it. Good day. Yeah. And she don't give a shit what she looks like. And that's the one. That's the one nice thing about ageing. I don't know what I'll be like then, because I don't give you shit now.

Well, you're quite unique. Because when you're younger, you do, don't you? You give a about everything, how you look, what you're wearing, your hair style, how many people like you at work or like you at school or don't like you. Yeah, I've never ever had that. You've not, no. Ever, no. Never experienced it.

Not at all, ever? No. Wow. Trying to think if I have, yeah, I think I have to a fashion. The one thing, school, actually, secondary school, trying to fit into a group so you're not bullied or, you're not trying to find that group to fit into. But after school, you didn't ever feel, like. No? No.

I don't believe I was particularly felt like I had to be with an in-crowd. I remember always as a young girl being really scrawny, skinny little thing, you know, developed later on, you know, much older. I'd have some girlfriends that were very voluptuous and looked at their age, if not five years older, as I looked at my age or five years younger, feeling a little bit inferior and inadequate. Maybe that was work for me. Maybe because I had a job and a place and a home.

Yeah, a job from a young age. Again, friends of all ages and having conversation, you know. Yeah, you were mixing with every age group. Every age group from a very young age. Yeah, so I think that was... Yeah, of course. And again, coming from maybe older parents. Yeah.

I've been older brothers Yeah Yes Sister-in-laws All of that Yeah Yeah No very interesting

But it's true You When you get to a certain age It's not that you don't care You feel the confidence To be able to say it how it is And if people don't like it Who cares

And the whole friend thing Chasing or having to work hard Oh listen No You want to be my friend Or you don't want to be my friend And then your friends will know Absolutely

If they're your friends They'll know, regardless of whether you speak to them once a month, once a year. Every day, doesn't matter. Yeah. You haven't got a lot of those in life, do you know what I mean? True friends, no, but, no. But you'd rather have one true friend. Absolutely.

Than a hundred, yeah, acquaintances or supposed friends or... Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Hi, Nat. Just send your message about your pod tonight with Antilini. Hi, Linny too, about... ageing and if we worry about not being here or whatever. To me, it doesn't worry me about not being here. I think there's a natural progression as you start getting older and you see people sadly passing

away. Something hits home, but what does worry me is being immobile, not being able to do things for myself, being totally dependent on other people. So I guess it's about ageing well and living life, you know, to the full to as long as you can, really. Interested to hear sort of what you and Lynnie think about that. And obviously, you've both had experience of being around older people, you know, what you've seen works and what doesn't. Look forward to hearing the pod. Love you all, bye.

Oh, lovely. I also got a message that said, P.S., and I'm so sorry if this isn't Michelle, but my messages are a little bit unclear tonight. Loved Sunday's show, the beam was so intimate. You looked at home with the audience, second show, and loved it more. Thank you. So hopefully that was Michelle.

If not, sorry. Thanks Michelle. So she's saying it's the second show she's been to. I loved it more. I love that. But yeah, again. Yeah, I mean, again, it's quality. Aging well.

Quality over quantity. Yes. Isn't it? Yeah. And again, it can be, it's luck of the draw, though. Look at my nanny Liz. Yeah. A stroke at what age?

Early 50s. Yeah. And she lived to what age? Oh, 80. In her 80s, early 80s. I mean, she was well looked after by your mum. I mean, she was a carer for many years. Quality of life might not be entirely true to say she had,

but she was very well looked after. She was very content. Yes. She always was fed, watered. Your mum washed her every day. I mean, she always looked at her. She had her little gimmee. Was it Guinness? She used to drink.

Yeah. Her paper, company. She didn't want for anything. And that probably suited her. I mean, my goodness. I will never forget meeting her for the first time. Morgan into her bedroom and thinking, wow, a nice, beautiful bedroom with a little one sweet. Oh, God. You know, so it is like that, you know, I used to always say with dad,

because obviously losing mum so young I was so protective of dad and dad was like me he was a grafter he worked up until he couldn't anymore and I remember I used to literally say to myself please God

whatever you do don't let him suffer don't let him not have his independence please please please don't let him not have his because he did everything Natalie he raised four kids he run the home he cooked he worked he had his allotments.

And then he had a stroke and he lost all his independent. Everything I prayed for him that I didn't want for him. But during that time, he constantly had a smile on his face, but he did. He lost everything. He couldn't move. He couldn't do anything for himself. I mean, I dread to think mentally for him. Hopefully he didn't recognise or realise what was going on.

Yeah, I wouldn't want that for me. But then I look at that year we had with him. he was still wonderful. Got to have lovely time with him. I don't think there's a right or a wrong. No. No, it's destiny. Whatever's going to happen is going to happen.

But yeah, we just, yeah, we just don't want to, you don't want to see loved ones. Well, you don't want to see anybody suffer, do you? That's the point. Ultimately, no. And for yourself, for that to come, you know, I couldn't imagine. Well, you don't want to be a burden. No.

I always remember Dad saying I'm becoming a burden. He didn't like that. Yeah, because again, he was... And also very near the end, but he would be saying, I'm a burden now. Bless him. And yet he was so, he was independent right till the bitter end, wasn't it? Right to the bitter end. Yeah, yeah. But I think again, mine's a powerful thing.

Yes, yeah. Mine's a powerful thing. And interesting, a lot of the messages have been more about getting to an age, at what age you're going to get to your demise, as opposed to ageing. and, you know, being concerned about ageing, your skin. No, it's been absolutely taken on that. As opposed to physically ageing, you know, putting on weight or everything's sagging and grey hair or...

I am so grey. Oh, yeah. The Cassidy's up, well, it's the Bellamy's, isn't it? It's your mum's side. So grey at the moment. Well, look, your brother's, well, Dave's white. Tony's a mix Maria's got a bit of grey hair

Oh I know yeah yeah It's just becky needs to pull her finger out She's too busy to see me Unbelievable But does that bother you What No only No it doesn't bother me

I just like my hair to be coloured It's like my hair's not done It's fine when it's stuck up like this When it's been so hot And I don't do anything with it But the fact that you can see grey hair What troubles you worries you Never

No No You just want your colour I just want my colour. Not to cover the greys then, to have your colour. Yeah, no, I just don't want the grey hair. No. Yeah.

I don't ever think, oh, it's because of age. No, it's just the colour. Yeah. Yeah. No, I get it. Yeah, it's a lot for women, isn't it? Very funny. I mean, so many people, Imogen from Cardiff said I feel it's a privilege to age.

And it is a privilege. And it is. Yeah. So many people die young, aren't. here and I do think yeah but again there are people that live to their 100 so you know everyone each to their own you can if charm has passed away didn't she oh did she yeah was that wish you were here yeah oh this week i think it was yeah oh was she don't know yeah oh oh bless her and it's again it's nostalgic yeah and again always look glamorous yeah oh oh on that talking of

getting old with Linney. I turned 60 on May the 8th, 60 going on 19. Excellent. When we were young, 60 was like a 90 year old, but I've just done a parachute jump and I bloody loved it. Well done you. I am so lucky to still have both of my very independent parents. And we had a great celebration in Wexford. It's a privilege, not many have. And tell Ro Roe that she's just a baby at nearly 40. Love you all, Nat. Thanks for the love and laughter. Blanche from Peckham via Ireland. Oh, lovely. Well done, Blanche.

Cool, how was the old name? Blanche. It's only of too many blanchees anymore, do you? The Golden Girls, wasn't it? Blanche. Yeah. It's a lovely name. So at 60, she's chucked herself out of a plane.

And she's still got her parents. I mean, you lucky girl. Amazing. It's just incredible. But look, this is what I love. Yeah, it doesn't matter. If you want to do a parachute jump at 80, if you're physically, up to it, then perhaps go for it.

It's fantastic. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot to be said about embracing life. And she's right, we're privileged. We're very privileged. Yeah, parachute jump. What do you reckon? Fancy a bit of a bungee jump or something? Yeah, you know I love all the old roller coasters.

Yeah, you're an adrenaline junkie. Yeah, I am an adrenaline junkie. I frame myself out of a plane. As long as I was strapped to some nice six Sorry, Dave What about a bungee? Just off top of the building, the elasticated one. You know I love all of this,

but the height thing and just the whole looking over the edge of a cliff or throwing myself over, I don't know. Not sure. I would do it because I'm up for a challenge. But my God. I'm going to get all the grandchildren to buy you that for Christmas. and say, no, no, we want to watch you

and then you'll have to do it. And I would do it for them. Even without the bungee. In the car on Monday, when they were here. And I was taking them home. I don't know how they got on the subject of age. They're a bit obsessed with age. They're always asking Alfie, in particular, love him.

Anyway, something came up about age or my birthday. It might be my birthday. And Ruby's gone, how old are you, non-na? I said, well, how old do you think I am? She went, 21. I went, that's it. And then Alfie went,

Ah, he said, I thought you were older than my mummy. Oh, bless his life. He's trying to work it out. It's interesting, even at that age. They're quite intrigued to understand. It's quite a natural thing. Yeah. developmental thing, I think that is in the brain.

And when they do the whole, like they have that fear of, oh, if you're such an age, are you going to, you know, how he's done this before? Oh, will you be going to heaven soon? Like it's already something he's worrying about. So we have to, you know, we reassure him. So endearing, bless him. But yeah, no, I'm telling him I'm the call none. Yeah.

And I'm not going anywhere anywhere in so soon. Yeah, I've asked for lots of creams and lotions and potions. Have you? The girls said, what you want? Anything to make me look young? Would you not use a certain thing? I'd do use anything. You would?

So you just try different things, whatever. Yeah, I'll get bored of the same thing. B, I think your skin gets used to it. I think your skin gets used to it. Yeah. I agree with you. Yeah. It's like shampoo. They say you should never use the same shampoo consistently.

You should chop and change. Your hair gets used to it. And I think it's the same with face cream. But also, I'm fortunate, again, I'm not one of these people that, as soon as I change my cross-exam. cream, I come up with a rash or got allergies. Of course, yeah. I can use anything, Natalie, doesn't, yeah.

So, yeah, the whole, as a couple of the other listeners have voice noted and said, I am a slightly more attentive towards, you know, making sure I cleanse my skin properly and use barns and oils and not necessarily expensive stuff, but I am very conscious of trying to look after my skin. I do wear the SPF now, which I've always been very bad with. in the past. Because I think also if you feel good, that gives you more confidence. Well, I completely agree with you. If you look good and you look in the mirror and you think, hmm, that's okay.

No, I completely agree because I can go, like today, no makeup on, hair up, I still feel fine. But if I go to work, Molly's been over, she's done all my hair and makeup, you just have an extra spring in your step. Completely. You do. It's important. It's like anything, isn't it? It's like when you go to an interview or your...

doing a pod, a live pod on a stage. If you feel good and you look at the mirror and you're happy with how you look, you're going to ooze a bit more confidence. What about my hair at Hartford? Oh, guys, what an absolute... I mean, I've spent a whole bloody morning in my bedroom that was like a sauna,

stressing, putting on a shirt, then trying on a dress, then sending the girls' photos. And that's the one thing I really miss, When the girls were at home, I'd go, girls, what about this? What do you think about that? And Dave used to say, but go at me, because if Maria said something didn't look good, I'd take it off. He'd go, no, if you like it, you wear it.

You don't have to listen to what Maria says, just because she's in fashion. I still do it. And anyway, there was messages flying around. Eli has shown us outfits of hers, and I'm saying everything looks lovely. And I'll, anyway. Show, and you just had a bit of a mare with your head. But that's what I love about you. It's a heat, though.

No, no. Elliot curled it all for me, bless her, before the show. But you sweat, don't you? Yeah, not as much as I used to, funny enough. So it slowed down. You're not drinking as much then? Well, is that just naturally slow down. I actually think it's weight.

Because years ago, I used to be really, really sweaty. You used to get above your lips. Yeah, your lip would go away. But that was when I was quite a bit bigger. Right, so where you've lost the weight. I think so, yeah. Not as hot. It wasn't that.

So it wasn't you were just. Mm. Yeah, but no, what did it? It was, you know, when you... I'll tell you what did it. 32 degrees? That's what did it. My hair can't cope.

Molly says it. What I'll do is I'll curl it again. I said, stop it. You'll be curling it all day. Well, it just goes. Just goes. You can curl it and curl it and curl it and curl it. But then you know when you're not happy with something and you just start messing around with it?

It just makes it so much worse. It was borderline starting to get greasy. Oh, don't. We did have a laugh. I mean, at one point, she was coming on stage with the knickers and bra. I was so heart. I fall if I pop out like this and say, sorry, guys. I am who I am.

I mean, you wouldn't have needed that. It wasn't a whole show. It would have cleared the auditorium. Thanks very much, you. Fucker. You said that at the time. Oh, that would be a laugh. I think you said.

Oh, we did have a laugh as well. Oh, gosh. There we go. We are what we are. We just got to not judge. Never judge a book. It's all about what the person has in their heart. Wise words.

Linda the owl. Come from the old bill. From the old. I'm going to be 60 for the April. Oh, It's young, isn't it? Young. Oh, it's awful.

How has that happened? How does it? How? How? Well, it's scientific. There's a simple time. I'll tell you what I'll do. I don't want it.

We'll chat GPT in a minute and I'll just teach you the basics. But on that. that note, we're going to go. Thank you for all of your voice notes, all of your messages. So many, we haven't got through half of the amount we were going to get through. They really were loads, again, flooded, amazing. And also, guys, if there's anything you want us to talk about, because sometimes we struggle, don't we, as to what we can. We just want to make sure that we are talking about interesting things. Yeah, so if you, anyone listening, if you've got a topic you want us to cover, as long as it's

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I'm just joking, I'm joking. You've got a week yet? No, I don't even want to celebrate it. Oh, I've got a week. No, you're all round on Sunday. I can't wait. It will be lovely. It'll be nice.

I'll get you some lotions and potions. To cook with, make me something. Some cream, some coffee, glouar. Making you all your favourites. Don't you worry yourself. Excellent, excellent. Right, well, thank you for tonight.

My pleasure. And I see you on Sunday. We'll do. See ya. Thanks, everyone. Oh, everyone. Bye. Thank you.

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