Life with Nat - EP243: Tony talks #24 - core childhood experiences

Episode Date: July 5, 2026

Nat and Tony wonder what else the government could fix in the amount of time they decided to have pubs open all night. They also dip into more childhood disappointments and plenty more pants chat too. Enjoy!Get in touch with Nat, buy tickets for upcoming live shows and link to Patreon, all the family's Instagrams, and more: ⁠lifewithnatpod.komi.io⁠ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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If England have got through or not yet. No, we won't know. But at least we are not exhausted. No. And everyone's going to be absolutely shattered on Monday. Or they're going to be so drunk they can't see because they've been in the pub till 5 o'clock in the morning. It's a bit of a strange one, isn't it that?

Don't understand it. Just don't get it. What? my goat is they've pulled through a legislation in about 20 minutes. That's right, yeah. And there are things that are so important that take years and years. So it shows you that it's possible. If you've got political will, then, yeah, you can do what you like.

They can get it done. Let's put it that way. They can get it done. They can get it done. There's a few other things that I think are more pressing to get down. Slightly more important than keeping pubs open all night. I've never heard the like. It's ridiculous.

I mean, you're in a residential area. I'm in a residential area in terms of people that don't like football or the elderly or people who need to get up for work at 5 o'clock in the morning it is going to be noisy or people that just are not interested in being on the piss all night

like there's going to be loads of people that will just set up and watch it they don't need to go to a pub and drink from God knows what time to God knows what time no I just think it's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard sorry ridiculous

You know, when I was a kid, we had Argentina 78 and Mexico 70, which I was too young for. Yeah, so I've never heard anything so ridiculous in all my life. I just haven't. I mean, everyone, I like, you know, we all like a drink, but I just don't understand it. Well, also, what time are you going out? Are you having a day, perhaps people are thinking they're going to have a day Sunday, a normal day, go to bed early? And get up at midnight and go to the pub? No.

Do you not think? There might be one or two normal people that might do that. But the vast majority is just going to drink far too much too early. Yeah. And then just, I can't believe that they've said to keep a pub home until 5 in the morning. It's not Smithfield Meat Market. The only place I've ever known a pub to be open at 5 in the morning is Smithfield Meat Market. Because they have special licences.

For when everyone finished. Yeah. When everyone finished, they could have a drink and a pint and a breakfast at 7, 5, 6, 7 in the morning because I was up all night. If it was the only place, as far as I'm aware, it was the only place in England where you could get a pint at whatever time in the morning and it was closely monitored as well. You couldn't like, no one could just turn up and go there.

Yeah, you needed to work in the meat market, basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just can't believe, it's beyond me, sorry, I just... And what are you planning to do? Go to bed. But what, not watch it? No, I'll try and watch it. Yeah.

I'll try and watch it, so I'll go to bed and maybe, you know, try and... stay awake as long as I can and put it on. But if I'm, you know, I'm going to work Monday. I'm not having a day off Monday to watch England. I'm just not doing it. I mean, I even heard the talk of them trying to shift a bank holiday for Monday. I was thinking, what is going on? I don't know.

I mean, maybe that was just hearsay or have you or, you know, someone talking about it. But I thought it's not, we're not won it. It's not the final. No. And even if it was, we're talking about a sport. I think if it was the final, it's different. Yeah. Sorry, it is different.

It's different, it is. Yeah. 1960 and all that. I think it would be different if it was some ungodly time and then I can't. I still don't understand opening the pubs all night. Sorry, I just don't understand it. Because people, look, let's be honest,

people can't behave themselves at best of times. No. You know, you have to chuck them out at 11 or 12 because they're just going to keep going on and get silly. Yes. So I just don't even want to, if we lose, I don't want to think about what's going to happen. Because you'd have lots of very, very, very, very, very drunk people.

Angry people. Angry, drunk people. And yeah, I don't even want to think about that. It's a shame, isn't it? It's a shame that people spoil it. Because it is a really, it brings the country together. It does, yeah. And you know, I put on that Free Lions song in the car or whatever. And I really love it. It's great, yeah. But that's the nature of people sometimes is that some people just can't help themselves. They've got to go too far and and just, yeah, I don't get it. And also to, to the, and also to, to be able to rush through emergency legislation in 20 minutes or whatever it is so that they can open pubs for a football game.

I can't believe it. I genuinely can't believe it. I don't mean any government's able to change the colour of their pens in 20 minutes, let alone put emergency legislation through so everyone can go on the piss all night. Well, I think it's a really good thing because what it shows is that they're able to do things quickly. But they're clearly not. This is just an exceptional service. Unfortunately, the exception

they've been uncovered. Yeah. So we now know that legislation... Well, if there is political will to get something done, then they can do it. And I think they're doing it just because everything's in a bit of a state

at the moment. And I think Keir wants to leave with people saying, oh, do you remember though? He did that. Yeah. And he did that. And when we got beat,

everyone smashed up Trafalter Square. Which happened the last time. Because that's what happens. Sorry, but it does. Well, there we go. We can't predict the... future. No, we can't.

Hope there's no violence. No, let's hope not. I hope we're still through when this goes out and everyone's in a good mood. Yeah, and our cars are all intact afterwards. Absolutely. Apart from yours. What are you done to that wing mirror? I didn't do anything.

I didn't do anything to it. Parked it up. Oh, someone smashed it. And someone's just smashed it to pieces. And what was really annoying, and this is really annoying. So there's a wing mirror switch. Yeah. So you get out of the car or get out of the van, sorry, and you're supposed to flick the switch

and the wing mirror was coming. Yeah. That particular day, I might have been coming up to you. I can't remember now. No, it's my fault. No, it's not your fault. What was happening?

Something was happening. Oh, no, no, I was going out for curry. Right. Right? So, with the fishing ads. Yeah. So I raced home from work. I was home a little bit early.

I had some stuff, something to do. And I couldn't get the van on the drive because the car was parked a little bit funny. So I thought, I'll just leave it there, and I'll come out and I'll go out. Yes. And then I've run around. Run around.

I've done some stuff and whatever. Come back. and then I've had a shower. John's, Johnny's come to pick me up. And I've gone out and there's this wing mirror, there's all bits of wing mirror all in the road. And I've realised, I know you shouldn't laugh. I shouldn't laugh.

And then I've realised that I forgot to do the switch so that the wing mirror comes in. But do you know what's really annoying is I found out the next day, if you go into settings, you can make it automatically come in, which I never knew. Because obviously I... Well, it's no, isn't it? It's no. So that's not your fault.

Yeah. And it turns out it's, um, it'd be easier to find Aztec gold than a wing mirror for a brand new full transit van because I don't know if it's a problem with the supplier or the complete incompetence of my local garage but I've now been waiting nearly four weeks for a wing mirror. It's ridiculous.

I mean, luckily, what's left? I've salvaged it and I can drive. You can see. I can see and I can drive. But again, it's one of them. You know, you just think, how old can it be? Give them a reg. Phone folded up.

get a wing mirror delivered, put it on. I know what to do. What's that? Phone key, Starmer up. Oh, I'll do it in 10 minutes. It'll do it in 10 minutes. Yes. Yes.

It'll be there with you. It'll deliver it personally. Absolutely. But the worst bit of it is as well. Sorry, this is, this is sort of technology and, you know, new stuff and new vehicles and whatever. Yeah. They've decided to put the Bluetooth receiver for the radio in the wing mirror. No, they haven't.

They have. Right? So possibly the most ridiculous design fault for ever. What I want to know. One wing mirror. Or both? Well, it would appear to be the driver's side because that's the one that smashed the pieces

and I've got no radio. So I'm not driving about in complete silence unless I play music on my phone, which is fine, but I don't always want to do that. I quite like the radio, listen to a bit of talks about. Absolutely. And whoever, so someone at fault, right, has had this thought process.

Oh yeah, we used to have an aerial on top and that got broke a bit sometimes. People snapped it when they put a great big bit of 4B2 for it because they had a roof rack on. So rather than putting a sharks fin in or something, a smaller aerial, which is what I would do, someone thought, well, what's the most broken, damaged piece of the van? What's the bit of the van that generally,

if you've got these and you don't forget to do what you should do, they get smashed to pieces on a regular basis. What's the only piece of this van where you need a season ticket for the Ford Part Centre? It's the driver's side wing mirror. Ridiculous. Because they just get smashed to bits by, you know,

you get a dust cart lot or a bus or someone that can't drive. Too close. Come down the hill, while up, smash the pieces. And it would appear, they've put the Bluetooth receiver for the radio in it. So now I've got, it's 900 degrees centigrade. I've got no radio, and the van's telling me there's snow on the road.

I've got the frost, you know, the thing that comes up when it's frosty? Yeah, yeah. So I'm getting in the van in the mornings, but it comes up. Snowflake. I've got to be careful in case I've hit some ice. Oh, well, it looks nice. Yeah, it looks nice, but it's quite annoying, you know. It is annoying.

Yeah. You don't need it, do you? Not really, no, not. But then it's sort of part of my fault. You've got to blame yourself, aren't you? Oh, yeah. I don't think so, though. Well, it is real.

I should have put it on the drive and I didn't, and then I left it out, and he's just asking for trouble really. No, I know, I know. But it's a sort of series of unfortunate events. Yes. Yeah, it is, yeah. It is. But there we go.

There you go. But what's happened, sorry, just as an aside. So I've upgraded. You know, you get these upgrades for the iPhone. Yes. They come, didn't they? You upgrade. Yes.

Just do it. Now it screens calls. That's right. Which I didn't, I haven't asked for it. So there's every chance If someone's phoned up and it's screaming the corner and they're like,

oh, bullocks, put the phone down, phone someone else. That could have happened. Possibly. Yeah, but we'll never know, will we? So, there we go. Sorry. But everyone's got that if they've done an update.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's not new thing. You look like Tony Soprano in your shirt this evening? Thank you very much. I don't know if that's good or bad. I mean, he was a very handsome man, by the way, if you don't mind me saying.

Well, it's a very smart shirt. Well, it's a marks and Spencer's, you know. You know, I like a bit of Eminence. I should certainly do. But the colour's lovely on you. Thank you, yeah. I've got a slight tan. You have got a tan.

How you bites? One of my bites is bleeding. Didn't mean it, but anyway. I've got one here. Oh, don't. I've got them everywhere. Look. Everywhere, everywhere.

Yeah. For all the listeners, we're just showing everyone our bites for the video, which isn't very nice. It's not very nice at all. Yeah, it's very comfortable. It's linen. You look very cool? Yes, I feel very well. You can't beat a bit of linen.

No, you can't. You can't. So nice. No. No. Can I tell you my story? Yeah. About, you said I look like Tony Soprano and I look quite well and whatever.

Yeah. I've always, over the years, I've always had, how can I put it? I've always had interest from men. Yes. Which I think you know. Yes, yeah, you've told me that before. Yeah. Yeah.

Quite a funny story, which I've just recounted to a few people at the weekend. I was fishing a couple of years, or I'm longer than about three or four years ago. Yeah. And once you've set up and that before the match, of 20 minutes where you just sort of mill about on the bank, you sort of walk and talk to people. And I was talking to this fellow I know, and I'm quite well, just an acquaintance, fishing acquaintance. So I'm chatting away to him. And he said to me, he sort of stopped me.

And I said, he stopped me. He said, hang on a minute. He said, look, he said, I'm not a homosexual. Right. But I'm strangely attracted to you. Right. Which threw me a little bit. Yes.

which I wasn't expecting and as a consequence I didn't really catch a lot that day because it was quite a strange conversation to have in the middle of December Yes, yeah But how did it go after that? You can't leave it there What happened? I just sort of left it and didn't quite

I didn't really understand the gist of the conversation I was not actually it's absolutely not Well no but there are lots and lots of straight men I know gay men They're only sleep with straight men Well, I know gay men who say, no, I only sleep with... Well, I don't know if I'm opening up a can of worms here, but... Yeah, and we went out for lunch a couple of weeks ago,

and I've got a couple of stairs as well from gentlemen, yeah. Yeah. So I must have, maybe I've just got that look, I don't know, of whatever that look is, I don't know. I don't know if there is a look. Just think you're a handsome man and... Yeah, really? I'm not sure about that. Well... Fishing for compliments, but I'm not sure.

Well... Yeah. So over the years there's been quite a lot of that, really. Which, um, it doesn't, you know, I don't find it offensive really. No, of course. Why not? No, I find it quite sort of, um, it's quite nice really, in some ways. Well, you're flattered, aren't you? Yeah, it's flattering, yeah.

Yeah. And I had another fishing mate who said to me, I told you before, he said, I walked into the tackle shop and he swore I'd had some work done. He said, you look like a Hollywood film star. I put, I put me cream on, you know, the cream. Yeah. And again, you know, sort of this sort of... But it's nice.

I think it's nice. Listen, it's rare, I think, from your business, what you do all day, down to the sport that you play, all the things you do are quite alpha male. They are. So I think if someone pays you a compliment, a man pays your compliment, you're just not used to it. It's a rare thing.

It's very, very, very rare. And I tell you another really big male thing. I know you've done your thing in Copenhagen this week with about one. weight and all the rest of it. Yeah, I have, yeah. But another really big male thing, and I don't know if any of the, any of our listeners or whatever will subscribe to this. I don't know if their husbands have ever mentioned it.

But men love to tell other men they've put on weight. Really? Yes, they literally. Do they? If I see somebody, right? Yep. And I think, put on a bit of weight, I'll go, you look really well. Right?

You look really, that's what I would say. Yes. So I saw someone the other week. I haven't seen him for a while. Yeah. And he's put a little bit on. But that's, I'm not judging, right? No.

And I just went, oh, you look really well. Someone else walked up to him and said, fucking size of you. Look at the size you. Like, just didn't. There was no filter. There was no. That's terrible, is it?

It's a man, honestly, that is quite prevalent in men. Where they just, they think it's fine. Like, you can't hurt someone's feelings. You can't, possibly at someone's feelings. Well, again, it's an alpha male that we're talking about here. Yeah, it's that I can say what I like, and it ain't know what you're feeling. So, and I'm,

I find it a bit strange. Because if you went and said that to a woman, you probably get knifed in the eye. Yeah. With a pencil or some other object that's in her handbook. Well, hopefully. But do you know what I mean? It's sort of acceptable thing

where you can just point out someone's deficiencies, particularly with putting on a bit of weight, and everyone laughs about it, goes, ha ha ha ha, ha, yeah, did it funny. It's not funny. It's not funny at all, actually. But I mean, as women, we all talk about weight all the time, don't we? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I would never ever say to anybody, well, have you put a bit of weight on? No. Ever. No, no. Mind you, interestingly, then there's the conversation and argument that when you said, oh, you've lost loads of weight, you look really well.

That shouldn't be all right either. Because actually some people might have lost weight because they're poorly. Yeah. Or there's something wrong. Or they're under stress. Yeah. So I don't know why losing. losing weight is a positive thing.

Because everyone's under pressure. We're conditioned. We're conditioned. No, everyone's under pressure at a lot, aren't they? Everyone's under pressure. You're all too fat. You're all too big. Well, as I say, I had a really great time over in Copenhagen.

It was amazing, actually. Really eye-opening, really good conversations with a lot of different people. And it's just really important to just brave and take a step and say, we're all here, doing our best. Yeah. And to stop trying to be something you're not. That's true, but it doesn't help when you go to the doctors and they tell me I should be four and a half stone lighter than I am.

Well, no. Seriously, my ideal weight is supposedly four and a half stone less than what I am. Yeah, well, when I go to the doctors with the chart, which is absolutely prehistoric, by the way, the BMI chart, it doesn't work now. I don't know why they're using it. It's actually been, I've done work.

It's just not, it's ridiculous. But I am near obese. I'm more, I think I am more clinically obese. Officially. Yeah. Or close to it. Yes. If I had to, if I had to be what they want me to be, I would literally have to live on fresh air and water.

I'd not be out of eat at all. Well, that's why none of these things works because we're all so different. It's genetics. Yeah. It's stress. Yeah. It's cortisol. Yeah.

How you take things on. Yeah. Yeah. are not, we are absolutely not, our metabolisms are very slow. Yeah. Like at Olympus or genetics. Yeah. We don't, we eat and we put weight on.

We look at something and we put weight on. Yeah, that's right. It's the way we are. So I didn't mean to get into the weight, but it was the thing, you know, about blokes, really, alpha males you mentioned. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's absolutely a thing. I mean, a lot of people won't admit it.

No. But it's absolutely a thing is where someone thinks that they're being funny or, and they're walking and go, car, look at you. you put a load of weight on it, you know, like I suppose... Funny. Like, literally, it's... Yeah, and you can see... You can see the person's face drop,

and you think, well, I can't say too much, or I'm not going to make a big thing out of it. Yeah, it's like saying, you wouldn't walk in and go, you're really ugly, ain't you? No. Or whatever? Oh, you're bald? Yes, exactly.

Well, you've gone really bald, didn't you? People don't say that, but when it comes to weight, they've got no filter at all. Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah. Is that the same for you? boys who listen to this pod. 077-8-20, 19-19,

there's enough of you out there. Or stories that the husbands have come home and told the old ladies, let us know. Yeah, it's horrible, actually. It's not very nice. Well, it's putting people down, isn't it? It's that sort of, I'm the King of the Jungle type thing. Yeah, I think it's more, well, I don't know, actually.

No, it might be a little bit of that, but it can also be people just playing up in front of other people. And it can also be someone's just not very nice Yes, it can, yeah That's another thing They're just not very nice person I know, but there are people You know, a bloke at the pub for instance

He just likes to talk And whatever, it's not really Conjuice, just be quiet Everything that comes out of his mouth is stupid Yeah, yeah, yeah But he likes the sound of his own voice Yeah, there's loads of people like that You just be quiet

You've got nothing good to say It's nothing interesting to say No, it's just cobbler's all of it Just be quiet And it's always comments like not Yeah But a bit like that Or commenting on someone's trainers.

Yeah, just... If you can't say anything nice, say just be quiet. Yeah, that's right, yeah, yeah. Lucky we're not quiet, because we wouldn't be doing a podcast. Well, I think we wouldn't have many listeners, would we? No, not really. From our last pod, we've got some lovely messages. Really, really nice.

We got some crackers, actually. Really nice. We've got one here from Camilla. I never got on Mr Frosty. I will forever be sad about that, and my mum sold my Sky Electrics, I have never ever forgiven her. Oh.

She must hate that as she has been the best mum ever and I still harp on. So that was Camilla's two little disappointments. But we've had quite a lot of people talking about the disappointments. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you obviously spoke about your football boots. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Shelley said, hi Nat and Tony, that football boots story stopped me in my tracks. I can't bear you never got your football boots, Tony.

I can't cope with disappointment kids feel. I imagined if it was my book. boy, Shelley. Is that really upset, Shelley, but you didn't get your boots? That was tame compared to the other one. So what's the other one? Go on. I mean, this is, the football boots was the precursor.

It was the preamble to this one. Go on. When I was around eight or nine, I discovered fishing. I know, I would go on it. But you know when you just find something and it just resonates and you just think, I want to do this. Yeah. And I was infatuated, literally infatuated.

I wanted to talk fishing. I wanted to go fishing. I wanted to read about fishing. Literally, I just mad about it. So I used to go to my local tackle shop was Ash Poles, which was in Newark and Green, in North London, if anyone knows that area. And in those days, there was lots of tackle shops about.

There was loads of anglers, loads of clubs. There isn't anymore. It's just changed. So I would regularly go to Ash Poles, and I would just go in there, and I would sit in there. And have a chat. And have a chat, and people would come in and out, and I would spend a couple of three hours or whatever.

on Saturdays, it was just, I just would go up there and just talk fishing and listen to people and it'd say, oh, this one is coming in and that one's coming in and I'd speak to them. And, you know, one day I said to them, I'd love to work in a tackle shop. I really, really would love to work in a tackle shop. And I went, well, we might have a job for a Saturday boy going.

How old were you here? I would have been about 10 or 11, I suppose. Sorry, my heart's pounding there, saying. It's terrible, isn't it? So I said, well, you know, you know I would, that would be my dream. So they started giving me little silly things to do. Yes. They'd give me some bits and pieces to put in plastic bags and put some stickers, not paying me.

I said, look, I don't want any money. No, no. And they said, look, we'll just try you out a few bits and pieces. And I did this for a few weeks. And it was going okay and whatever. You know, they just said, oh yeah, well, come in next week. And when you come in next week and do a few couple of other bits for us. and riddled some maggots

and do whatever. I went in one Saturday and I walked in and there was a boy behind the counter. Yeah. And I walked in and I said to the guy, the owner

I went, who's that? He went, when I asked John he said, we've given him the job as a Saturday boy. And I said, sorry, this is the truth. If the Grim Reaper would have walked up to me at that point

and said, I'm going to take him now, is that all right? I'd have gone, yeah, take me, I'm gone. I can't tell you, I mean, the disappointment, I cannot even describe the feeling of disappointment. I mean, my stomach was on the, I was, I was heartbroken. Yeah, yeah. The fact that he hadn't spoken to me or said,

look, we've got this other kid and we think he's a bit bad, and I'd have been upset, but the way I found out was absolute, I can't tell you how, it still affects me to this time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can understand that. Yeah, and it was... And also it's the whole... I can imagine you're on the Saturday excited

to go up there, walking up there and seeing that, you know? And it was just so unexpected. A, it was so unexpected, which was the main one. But it was that feeling of total rejection. That's what it felt like. Was there a feeling of jealousy as well? No, no. There wasn't at the time afterwards there was.

Yeah, yeah. At the time, I didn't even see him. No. It was just rejection. and I couldn't breathe. I was like, I was like, huh, huh,

huh, honest, it was absolutely, it was soul destroying is the word. But all these things shape you. They do, yeah. They do? Yeah,

I still have fucking nightmares over it. That's how they shape you. Crazy, yeah, yeah. And I think, I mean, that's my one. I mean,

people have probably got theirs and they probably don't, it's probably not as simplistic as not getting a job in a fishing tackle shop. There's probably much deeper. darker things that have gone on or whatever. But yeah, that was mine.

I mean, the football boots paled into insignificance compared to that. Yeah, yeah. The next little piece of this pod may contain something that the children's ears might not want to hear, so you might want to switch it down. Cheers.

So mine was, and it's not, well again, I do think it's shaped the way I am now, it was December and finding in mummy's wardrobe Oh, all the Christmas presents All the Christmas presents

She wasn't very good at hiding them But all at the top of her wardrobe And I must have been looking for them Of course she'd do We always did But I couldn't believe it Because I must have been really young Yeah

And I remember that feeling of Oh It's not what I thought it was Not what I thought it was Yeah And that was really disappointing And I'd wonder now If that's why over the years

I've been so ridiculously over the top about storing them in different places. Not being found. Yeah, I've been really fastidious about it. Secura tests turning up on Christmas Eve with a big box full of, where you've had them off site for the last four months. But that was a huge one for me and I won't forget that. The realisation that is...

Just the realisation that it's not true. Tony, I promise you, step one, will be good for you. I really feel they will be. Because they just were, as soon as my husband put them on for the first time, he was just like, wow, these are the pants because his mates at rugby had a pair and someone accidentally got the wrong size. They couldn't be bothered to send them back. So James got his first free pair. Tried them, great. So then we bought another pair. And then every time it's Christmas or birthday, people, we say, can you just buy one pair of these pants. So now he's got several pairs of step one pants and they're

brilliant. So maybe that's what you need to do. Ask someone to buy you a pair of the pants. If you've got, you know, well, it'd be Christmas now, wasn't it? Because you've just had your birthday. But yeah, Christmas, you might get some pants, Tony. Anyway, hope you're all right. And you survived in the heat wave. I'm just filling up a million pools in my back garden because we currently don't have a hose pipe ban in Derbyshire. So I am preempting that happening. did have one filled up last week from last Friday and we emptied it last night and every night I was just chucking it all on the plants in the garden so I try not to waste the water

either. Brilliant. You've had loads and loads of pants. Loads of pants messages. We're going to do a pants try on as I've said. I think we need to do a little pants try and it won't be video. It will be audio only. You don't want to. No. It's definitely not going to be video. It won't be audio only on Patreon and I will have my back to Tony because as we said... You'll be out of the room, young lady. As we said, you said, how are we going to explain? It's going to be fucking weird if you're in the room. Yeah, that's right, very weird. But it's fine. We'll work it all out.

I can step out while you're trying to train them on. Logistically, it's a bit mad. It is a bit odd. Emma is a magician and she can edit it all together. It'll be fine. Fine. I just get confused. I mean, people have said about step.

I know. And I'll go on and it says what type of body shape are you. I know. We'll have a look. We'll have a look. I don't know. I mean, one here from Lord Neil. Okay.

Lord Neil is a regular listener to the pod. Haynes. Comfort Flex Fit. Total support pouch. Get Tony to try these. Game changer. I'm a baker, so I'm in 375 degree heat all day. I'm a larger bodied guy, and I switched to these last month, $15 on Amazon.

So there's another pair for the trial. There's loads of them. That's the thing. There's sort of loads. There's quite a lot of different ones. You've got to find. I've got a find because nothing's working at the minute that I've got. Well, we will do.

I mean, I've been a bit remiss doing it. I haven't really, you know, I haven't really gone out and had a proper look. I'm so, quite busy and stuff and things going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And every time I think about, oh, I must try and sort my pants at, something else more important comes up. I'm wearing the same bra after 12 years. I don't worry about it.

Yeah, but that's because it's comfortable. I know, but it's not right. If I'd write a pair of pants I'd like, I'd wear them for 12 years, you know? Not, I'd wash them in between. No, of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't mean I'd wear them for 12 years. Absolutely. Now, this is lovely.

Hi, Nat and family. Hope you are well and surviving the heat. Here's my childhood letdown story from me to my daughter. Tilly, I'd like to take this opportunity to publicly apologize for one of the greatest parenting failures of all time. On your 10th birthday, we proudly gifted you a trip to Harry Potter Studios, a magical adventure. Fast forward 10 years and somehow that gift is still loading. To make matters even worse, your little sister Bella casually went there on a school trip.

To your credit, you've never moaned about it. In fact, we've had a laugh and you say you'd rather go somewhere with animals instead. I promise I will make it happen and in my defence we have had lots of brilliant days out. I just seem to have spectacularly dropped the quaffle on this one. Sorry, Tilly, if it helps my own childhood disappointment, was hoping for a Mr Frosty and never getting one. Love you lots. Here's to Making Up for the Lost Magic.

So the moral of this tale is make sure you book something before you gift it. And I'll tell you something now, on Eliza's ninth birthday, we wrote in her card, we're all going to see the Lion King and we still haven't been and she mentions it so if Eliza was in now she might say that's her disappointment and you're absolutely right

you can't write it in a card unless you've bought it it and you've booked it you got the tickets yeah so true so true is that two Mr Frosties we've had as well two Mr Frosties wow that was quite a big thing weren't they way back when big thing I don't think I had a Mr Frost

Was I asked Craig Michael? It was sort of a slushy maker. Slush maker, I remember him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A little snowman. Yeah. Cool little dude. Hey Nat.

This is Kelly from New Zealand. This is for a Tony's talks. It's about childhood things that you were always promised. Well, I remember, well, it wasn't really, I was promised it. I got it. It was a hundred pound note from my boss when I was 14. I worked in like a local kind of corner shop for the whole of the school holidays. And I thought a hundred pound note.

So my mum always said, She would keep it in a safe place for me and I'll be able to get it one day. Well, that was at 14. I'm now 49. And I'm still waiting for that 100 pound note. And I still have digs at her. And it's a joke. And it's funny.

But 100 pound. Come on, mum. Give me it back after all this length of time. But all, all. Sending my love to you all. Kelly from New Zealand. I love you. 100 pound note?

I've never seen a hundred pound note. So is that a... So she got a Scottish accent? Yes. So is that a Scottish? It might be a Scottish note or is it a New Zealand $100 note? I don't know. I don't know.

It's New Zealand's dollars, isn't it, I thought? I think so. Or is it pound? I don't know. Well, anyway, number one, it sounds like it was a bit moody because it was a hundred pound note. Yeah. It's probably not really real, but we're not sure. But if her mum's nicks her hundred quid, it's a bit strong.

That's out of order. Yeah, it is, yeah. Yeah, that's well out of order. It's well out of order. Although you kindly gave Joni some money for her broken arm. Yes. And I spent 15 quid on it for a cab. That's all right

because I had some cash but she will get it back Well you know You didn't even need to venture that information Really But what I'm saying is Sometimes when there's cash there And you need it for something

Oh no we do the same Yeah But then we'll go out to HobbyCraft And she buys something And I go well that was your thing Yeah we do it at home Like James might have a couple A few quid

And we need it for something And we'd pinch it off him And not give him back Not give him back Not give it back We do give it back Oh even might have a couple of pounds From her birthday and stuff

And we need it for something So But I think that's fine as long as you remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But not going to, it's 20 years later. Well, it's not just that. If that was invested wisely,

that's obviously a lot more than 100 pounds. It's true. So I think there's a potential court case there. Yeah, yeah. Or maybe just go on to Google, how much would this be now? And then just say to your money, you're only two and a half grand.

Yeah. Because if I... If I invested it in high risk bonds and whatever it is, they invest in, yeah, whatever it is, because we're good at that stuff. Yeah. Yeah, if I'd invested it in big,

Bitcoin, it'd now be worth 85 million pounds. So that's what I need of you. That's what I need. Yeah. Nothing. That's a great. I mean, that's exactly, yeah. Yeah.

And there's a solicitor's letter, winging its way to you as we speak. Definitely. Well, there you go. Try that one. That'll be nice. Yeah. Nice conversation with the family.

I do it just before Christmas as well. Yeah, or birthday or something like that. Sort of family gathering. Yeah, or before a christening or wedding, something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just had a bit of spice. Hi Nat and Tony, it's Angie Northampton. I've just worked out that my childhood disappointment is actually 40 years old this year.

I was a massive AHA fan in 1986. And I had one, A2 posters on my bedroom mall, mainly of Morton Harcette from AHA. And my dad at the time worked for a kitchen company in London. and happened to show three young men around the factory and the showroom because they were buying a flat in London and needed a new kitchen. And it turns out that it was a heart. He had no idea and never got their watercrafts and it still hurts. Yeah, it's not Dad's fault though, is it?

Well... I mean, he's not going to be... O-Fey with the 80s band. Popular modern culture, is he? You know, imagine that sounds like, you know, if David Bowie come into his shop, he would know he was. No. And he'd go, oh, this bloke come into my shop today.

He was a singer. He was a singer. Yes, yes, that's true. You know, who was he, or his name was David? He used to be called David Jones. He's got some other name now, name it after a knife. That would have been that sort of conversation, wouldn't he gone, David Bowie's coming to your shop? Yeah, yeah.

I don't know, he is. Don't know, I ain't got a clue. Yeah. It's a bit unfair, really. I understand she's disappointed that he goes. got to meet them and she didn't. Yeah. But it's not his fault that he didn't know.

But if they'd have said, if he'd have been walking manufacturing and he'd have said, well, lads, I mean, well, you're not from around this way, are you? And they'd say, oh, no, we're from Norway. And what do you do that? Oh, we're singers, you know, and they might say, oh, yeah, we just had a number one.

Well, you know, with a car owned thing and whatever. And he might, if that happened and he didn't know that he's daughter had him on their wall, then I think he's culpable, definitely. Yeah, okay. I don't think that was probably the conversation. He's probably saying, do you want gloss or Matt? I thought that was going to go.

That story, when I first heard it, I thought it was going to go, and then Dad ripped all my posters down to redecorate the wall. Yeah. And I was absolutely furious. Yeah, yeah. There was another disappointment that I would never forget. I had a film on VHS that I'd taped.

Oh, it was tape, and someone taped over it. And it was, I'd not taken out the little tag. The little tag. And Daddy taped the gold. over it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that. But I think it was a sword in the stone or something like that, yeah.

Just something really good. Even taking the tag out then didn't. You could put cellar tape over it. There you go. It didn't matter. You could break the tab. Sorry, this is for people of a certain age. It is actually, sorry.

Yeah. Video. VHS cassettes. Yeah. Big black ones that we'd put in and you could record things, tape things. And I had a little, basically, had a little tag at the back.

And if you didn't want it to be taped over, you broke the tag off. So there was a hole instead of a piece of plastic. Yeah. And that normally meant don't tape over this. But what people would then do is they get a piece of cellar tape and put it over and tape over it anyway. It used cause quite a lot of arguments.

A lot of arguments here. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was very upset about that one. Hi, Matt. Just wanted to drop you a message. It's Rebecca from Nottingham again. I'm just listening to the Russell Howard podcast that you were on. I'm really enjoying it.

It's like two of my favourite podcast. come together. So it's really bright in my day. Oh, thank you very, very much. Yes, I did Russell Howard. Oh, yeah. That's five brilliant things. And you name the five brilliant things.

You have a chat about them. Oh, right. It's quite good. Yeah. If I had to ask you five brilliant things that you can't live without or that you love, what would they be? Oh, my God.

What a question. Maybe do it next time. You ever think about it. We do it next one. Is that an inanimate object? Or is it pay? Anything you want. So I did napping.

All right. I did... A bit weird. I did napping, brilliant things. I can't even remember what I did now. That's terrible, on it? Oh, well. I can't remember.

Oh, well. But anyway, it could be anything. Something you like, you can be funny with it. It doesn't really matter. Yeah. So I just think it's quite a good one. Am I allowed to copy Russell Howard's podcast with you? I think so.

Well, you're not copying it, are you sort of, you're... Well, not, firstly, I'm fucking promoting it. Well, you're promoting it number one, but it's not a copy, is it? You're saying, I went on Russell's podcast, and he said, done this, and so what are yours? Yeah. You're not going, I've come up with a really brilliant idea. I was sitting in the bath the other day, and I thought, shall we do five brilliant things? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then you're sort of plagiarising terribly. Yes. And probably going to get sued. A solicitor's letter, yeah. Fine. So I'm sure he wouldn't mind. But anyway, five. Brilliant things.

Five brilliant things. Have a little thing. Can we do it next time? Be good. Hi, Nat. I can't think I can keep this under one minute, but I'll be as quick as I can. Just going back on your last pod with Tony about the hydration breaks. So I saw a real TikTok something the other day that basically said, obviously the major sport in America is American football.

And how many quarters do they play? Four quarters. So if you split each half of football, our football, into two, you get four quarters. And what do they do in these breaks? They play adverts. And there was a statistic shown that the cost of showing an advert, depending on what game and what time slot, it can cost them $250,000 to $750,000. And this was a rough calculation this guy was doing in this video. And it basically said that FIFA being a non-profit organisation will make in excess of 204 million.

dollars through these hydration breaks and splitting them and then getting and companies to show adverts. That's just what I saw on socials. Yeah, so it was Shelley from Dover. Cheers. Thank you, Shelley. Obviously, I know they're for adverts. Well, I was a bit naive last time.

I wasn't, you said to me, what do you think of them? And I said, well, you know, European players and stuff, it's probably a good idea to take some more on. But, yeah, it was a bit naive. What's a load of bollocks? Yeah. Football has been going for how many years? How many years has football been going?

I've done. Since 1888 or whatever. A long time. Yeah, yeah. They don't need a break. No. I don't care how hot it is. Sorry. No, but it now transpires that it is all about money

and it's all about trying to make it like American football. Well, it's not American football. It's football. Yeah. It's not American football. I'll tell you what we'll do then. The Masters does really well, doesn't it on Sky? That's lovely.

What we do now, we get all the footballers and we'll dress them up in golf gear with a golf club. Should we do that now as well? Mm-hmm. Or should Wimbledon players be wondering about, or should we have more breaks for that? I don't really understand. We have a game that's 45 minutes with a break and 45 minutes.

You can't change the game. Yep. Understood. So, not having it? And it changes the game. It changes things. I mean, in our, I have to say, there's been a couple of times where I thought,

thank God for the hydration. Thank God for the hydration break, yeah. Thank God for the hydration break. Because it changes the thoughts and the pace. Yeah, changes the game. And the possession and everything. Yeah. But it's not right.

It's not right. It's not right. It's not right. And interestingly enough, that last clip of us talking about it, or mainly you having a rant, which is quite good. Got how many views? Yeah, it's quite big. Well, go on, say.

Well, three quarters of a million and still going. Yeah. Yeah, no, it is a lot. But I do think the whole Instagram algorithm, how you get likes and posts, I don't, I think some people really understand. understand it or they have people working for them that understand it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But from what I can see, people on their, if there is an opinion and people start

commenting underneath, which creates conversation between themselves. Yeah. So it's not even about the video anymore. Yeah. It's about something going on underneath. That's what sort of bolsters those views, I think. But you can't force it. You put your clips up.

You get what you want. But it was really nice. And it again, gained me lots of lots of. of followers. So our pod page now, at Life with NatPod, I've got another like 4,000 people. So thank you to everyone who's following. And maybe even started listening because of it. So, you know, there is a reason for these posts.

And that is why social media is really positive. So that's good. Yeah. So what can I say now that I fucking hate? Oh, don't get on hate. Well, I just have a right old rant. No, I'm joking. I'm not going to do that. Not going to do that at all.

Fine, it's Joan Hitchin. I need to have a little rant. about the summer. So I've just overheard on the pod, other listeners talking about your hay fever and their hay fever. Mine's awful. I am pretty pale, so I've still quite the fastest factor 50 on. All about the end of his memories my hay fever is awful. The last week I've got a chest infection. That's clear that the hay fever is making it hard to recover properly. So we went back to the doctor and saw her. Oh my gosh. So she said, she asked me, Have you got a sweet tooth?

I was like, I'm sorry. Oh, because you need to be avoiding sweet stuff because they're full of histamines. Avoid alcohol, full of histamines. Anything processed. Certain fruits, even, wonderful. And aged cheeses and dairy can produce more mucous. So avoid all that as well.

So not only do I get burnt and have awful hay fever, I try to enjoy the summer, you know, for the strawberries. and the cocktails and drinking a rosé in the garden. I can't have anything. I can't do anything. And then the last bit of it, she says, I'll try to avoid warm environment. I'm sorry? This is a lot.

Honestly, have you seen next week's forecast? Let's just be running race with life on Sunday. Can't bloody breathe. Anyway, sorry, I'm ranting and enraged. Who can't even enjoy the good bits of summer. Lots of love. Sorry for renting. Bye.

You carry on ranting, Joe. I'm with you. I mean, I'm with all due respect. It's basically got to live in the fridge. Live in the fridge, don't eat. Don't drink anything. Don't, for God's sake, enjoy yourself. I'm not doing it, I'm afraid.

Yes, I'm own about hay fever. But I'm very good. Honestly, I get on with it. I have my tablets. I went into Tesco's this week, and Olivia tablets that I usually get. They're 1 20 milligram. Behind the counter,

Olivier hives, 180s. They're selling them now, 180s, which is great. Because usually I take two of the normals. I don't go to the doctors for it.

I probably should. But I just know how to handle it now. My eyedrops. I've got my spray for my nose. I've got the two tablets and I just have to keep doing that, keep doing that. It can be hard

if I'm sitting in the garden with a bottle of rosé. That can make it a bit worse. But I tell you what, Joe, I'm not stopping it. So, just have to deal with it. Sorry. Well, you know,

Evie suffers terrible, don't you? Terribly. Terribly. Terribly. And she's been under the hospital for the last five years. I know. There is actually a, there's a hospital in London that's next to Great Ormond Street that specialises in allergies and stuff, which no one really knows about. And every year she goes in there, at certain times they inject her with pollen, a tree pollen and whatever. The idea is, is that your body will gain resistance towards it and whatever. And it's not made any difference. She's still in a terrible state at times. I mean, she was doing her exams. year. I know. And as she did them, I've got no idea. I mean, she was in such a mess. It's debilitating. It's terrible. My friend Jamie phoned me up. It was a voice note actually and he phoned me. He said, I'll tell you what, there was hay fever. He said, I've got up. He said, I feel out of got up. I was stumbling about, I said, that's how I feel every day when I wake up.

I'm just, I'm just used to it now. I mean, people go, oh, you got a hay fever. They've got no idea. It's so debilitating when it's really bad. Drain. You can't see. Shows, it's It's just the tiredness for me because your body's fighting all the time. Yeah, all the time it's fighting. And also for girls and women as well, you know, you can't wear makeup. If you're going out. Hair's got to be all back out of. Yeah, hair's got to be back scraped off your head.

You know, you get, you know, you'll get all your eyes look terrible. Swollen. So it's not just the hay fever and what you're dealing with. It's then you're going to social situations and people going, oh, what's wrong with you? What's wrong with your eyes? You get all that sort of stuff. So not so bad for bloke. because, you know, it's not as important.

Well, it is. No, it's not. It's not, it's not, it's not, it's not. It's not, it's not. If I've got a gammy eye or whatever, you know, because I've got hay fever in it and people go, I'll just go, I've got hay fever and they go, all right.

They're less judgmental about blokes than they are women, without a doubt. Your mates might be. My mates will be, yeah, definitely. What's matter where you all right? What's matter with your eye? Well, I know, Popeye. Yeah, that's right.

Big of state you, you're ugly. Aye, aye. Yeah. You look like that bloke off that. film. Was it the elephant, man? Pub's got a bit of music on tonight. Oh, was it?

Can you? What is it? Not sure. All right. A singer, I think. Okay, well, maybe we'll pop outside in a minute and just have a little listen. Have a little listen. A little listen.

Nice. A little sing song. If anyone can hear anything, yes, we've got the windows open. You know why. I'm not going over it again. Hello, Love. Hello, Tone. I'm just catching up on Tony's talks and you've said about this childhood disappointment.

Now, I know you said nothing to do with, like, you know, loss or anything like that. And it's not technically that, but when I was about five years old, we had a German shepherd. It's a gorgeous thing called Blue. And I was told by my mum and dad that he was so special that he was becoming a police dog. And I believed this my whole entire life. until probably about, I'd say six or seven years ago when I was telling the story to somebody in front of my dad. And I was like, oh, yeah, remember when Blue become a police dog dad? Or I, you know, I know he's not going to be here anymore.

But I just know he was going to be. He was such a good police dog. And my dad said, are you joking? I was like, no. And he was like, the dog got put down. The dog had to, you know, it was. the end of its life and you know it had some sort of you know skin condition or something and yeah the vet said he had he had to go so that's what we told you so literally i mean i'm 40 now so for 30

years i was 5 35 yeah so for 30 years i was convinced that my lovely blue had gone to be a police dog and now when i look back and people would say their dog had gone to, you know, gone to a farm, apparently that is also the, you know, brief over of, no, that dog's passed away. And I've, you know, it's only just occurred to me on the whole farm thing. I mean, just honestly, such a huge disappointment. I was absolutely at the age of 35, heartbroken all over again of my dog from when I was five years old. Honestly, as broken me. Absolutely. broken me. So yeah, that's mine. Oh, Sam, my Alice Tinker.

That's a shock, it's terrible, but for some reason, you know what? I shouldn't, look, it's terrible on it. No, because I don't, I understand it. It makes me smile because I can just imagine this, this 15-year-old Alsatian with one leg, blind, up in about, who in itself, you know, blue, in such a state that it's, you know, you know, But as a child, as a child, you don't know, you don't know, yeah, yeah. And in a way, I think, actually, that is a lovely thing to do. Because a five-year-old doesn't need to know that information.

I'm in two minds. So there's one part of me that says it's a really nice thing to do. Protecting. But then as a child, I would think, well, why does my dog want to go and live on a farm and not be with me? Why has it left me? So it might be worse doing that than saying, look, sorry, it's the dog's time. He's had to go to the kennels in the escrow or whatever,

you know, whatever you say. Yeah, yeah. And that's it. And accept it rather than, I would be sort of thinking, why is it going to be a police, you know, why is it not want to be with me?

I think the police dog story is better than the farm. I think the police dog saw his school, because it's as if his need is being called up. Exactly, yeah. And he's sort of really important. Well, if you said he's going to work for international restaurants, rescue. Yes.

Or, you know, he's going to go and find people in mountains that are buried. Exactly. But the farm one, I don't understand that. That's basically saying the dog doesn't like you anymore. It's gone to work on a farm. It's true, though, isn't it? Why has he gone to the farm? Don't like you no more.

No, don't like it. Don't like it around here. It wants to be on a farm. Loads of animals and rats. New people. Friendly people, nice people. People that play with him. Yeah.

People that, yeah, people don't shout at him. Yeah. Oh, that was a really good subject, that, wasn't it? It was, yeah. If anyone's got any more, keep it rolling in. Pets, yeah. Pets, disappointments. I just like that.

I like... The pet one's quite good, though. I must say, let's open up a whole new avenue, isn't it? As to, you know, what you were told about your pets, where they may or may not have gone. Did it mummy kill the terrapin from Hanover by bleaching its... I don't know that. I think I brought the taraping home and I think it died because she kept bleaching the tank.

She probably, yeah. Yeah, that sounds like mum. Yeah. There you go. I remember I bought some goldfish once and some small, you know, some small fresh water fish and put them in a tank. Yeah. I was really going to look after them. And I think it might have been the summer of 76 or another hot summer after that.

And she basically, they were on the dresser. The dresser. They were on the dresser. No, no, they was on the dresser in the show. Right. And mum decided to put them on the window. When I came home from school, I'd boiled goldfish. She couldn't understand for the life.

She didn't know why they died. I went, Mum, they'd been in 90 degrees of sunshine for the last four hours. I mean, you could have made a cup of tea with the water. That wasn't a disappointment for me. That was, how did you not realize that he was going to kill these fish? Yes. By putting them on the windowsill. And she honestly said, well, I thought they'd like a bit of sunshine

because they're stuck on the dresser. I said they're on the dresser because it's shady and they're not going to die. And that is, that's a fact. I love that though. I thought they'd like a bit of sunshine. A bit of sunshine, yes. I put them on the, I put them out, I put them on the windowsill. And I came home and there was these, we had boiled goldfish for dinner.

Bless the heart. There we go. There we go. Right, on that note, it's been a pleasure as always. Have a lovely, lovely week, everybody. I'll speak to you soon. Please remember Patreon. if you fancy joining, there's lots of bonus stuff over there.

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See you soon. See you. Bye. Bye. Bye.