Life with Nat - EP243: Tony talks #25 - important lessons from the building site and tackle shop

Episode Date: August 5, 2026

Nat's offered Tony a solution to his maggot shortage, but why aren't they up to the job. And what will he make of her suggestion to siesta?Get in touch with Nat, buy tickets for upcoming live shows and link to Patreon, all the family's Instagrams, and more: ⁠⁠lifewithnatpod.komi.io⁠⁠ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

You've been talking about not having any maggots, but surely in this weather you've got enough maggots to last your lifetime. Well, you've got loads in the bin, but they're not the ones I want. Right. I want the ones that are bred purely for fishing. What's the difference? Do you really want a maggot lesson? Yes.

Different flies produce different larva, different maggots. Right. Pous fly breeds a large maggot. Another type of fly will breed a smaller one, we call them pinkies. They're just a smaller one for small fish. Another flower will breed, another larvae, we call them squats, and they're very tiny and very succulent, so little fish like them. So there's different flies, breed, different larvae, which had maggots.

And so we use certain ones at certain times a year for certain, in certain places, certain fish. So you are running low at the moment? Well, we're not running low, but there's been a lot of problems on the bait farms, because there are professional bait farms that are set up just to breed maggots. for angling purposes. And they do have problems in the heat where sometimes they might have a whole cycle

go down where all their flies die because it's too hot, which for most people would be brilliant. All their flies are dead, great. They're not buzzing around driving you mad. But for a bait farm, that is pretty much devastating. Yeah, no, I get that. Yeah, so we've had that situation, not loads, but we've had it a little bit recently.

I see. And stuff's not turning up in the fishing in the tackle shop. So we're ordering a certain amount of stuff and you're only getting a half or a quarter of it. So that's a bit difficult. We have to... Risky business. Yeah, we have to sort of beg borough and steal

and someone picks up our bait and he nicks someone else's and... Really? Yeah, not give them as much. And, yeah, bait wars. Welcome to Life with Nat, everyone. I'm here with Tony tonight. Good evening.

Oh, dear. How funny. Yeah, yeah. Sounds ridiculous, isn't it? I'm talking about it. It sounds absolutely mad. I've got mates up in Staffordshire. Yeah.

And when I was fishing, we fished a big competition together. They asked me to fish for their team about five or six years ago now. And I was on their group thing, each-a-y thing. And every Friday, they would all get their bait from different shops. Not all of them, but there'd be like, there might be 12 of us in the squad. and we might use four or five different tackle shops because we're in slightly different areas. You know, some were more Coventry-based,

some were Staffordshire based, some were more up north or whatever. And there was this thing where you had to pick your bait up this certain type of maggot called a squat, the little tiny things. And you had to get a pound coin and put it in the bait box and take a picture of it and put it on the group so everyone could see how big the bait was.

Because it sounds like, So it's this tiny little bait that we use. Yes. But the bigger it is, up to a certain size, the better. Right. Because it'll only ever get... Well, yeah, exactly. And easier to use and whatever.

So it'll only ever get to a certain size, but you want it at its premium size, not this little tiny size, because the tiny ones, you can't put them on yoke and they're too small, whatever. So we'd have this thing where people... The cry I'd go out, what are the squats like this week,

and everyone had... They'd get their bait and put a pound coin in the thing and take a picture and everyone to go, all they're good or all their shit this week or whatever. How funny. Yeah. Yeah. Different world, strange world.

I think everyone has their own quirks. Twilight World. Yeah. Squat world by the sense of it. Yeah, funny. Talk about maggots in bins. Yes. I've seen a big increase in people in what I do.

They're having waste disposal units. because they're so fed up of the waste bin being overrun by yeah but you've always said no to a waste disposable to me yes you've always said they're not great they're horrible don't like them they smell can't clean them

but people don't take any notice of me and then what happens is you get one of my customers decided to put a whole they had this rice in a spaghetti jar right that was obviously old and they've put the whole thing they put the whole lot down the waste disposer

And the way of the disposal hasn't chopped any of it up because it's so small and it just blocks all their drains. Well, yeah, that's ridiculous. Then all their drains overflowed and came up through the sink and flooded their kitchen. So I got a phone call to say, our kitchen's flooded,

but there's something wrong with the plumbing. And then when I got underneath, there's like an undercroft thing where the pipes were and stuff and got in there and unscrewed the... Just a shit ton of rice? It was just, yeah. It was just, yeah, there's just tons and tons

and tons and tons and tons of rice with like concrete. Well, that's ridiculous. Why would you not put that in the food bin? Because they think they can put anything down a waste disposal and that's the problem. It's an interesting one. Yeah, I don't like them. I'm sorry, I'd rather have maggots in my bin.

What'd you really do? Than a waste disposal, yeah, they're not, I don't like them at all. That's fair enough. I've never had one. No, I don't know. I had one years of one. We had a flat years ago. Yes.

It was quite a cheap, new build flat, but it had a waste disposal unit in it. And I, it was what you thought it was, Brilliant. Chuck all the food down it, running. You know, it's brilliant, this is. And then everyone in the flats did it,

and then all the drains clogged up outside. That was a problem. And then after a while, because they're sort of, the chambers made of, it's not cast iron, but it's sort of got a, it's not smooth.

It's not like staying still. Kind of a corrugated type. Not corrugated. It's got a dimple, ripple, ripple. It's a bit like, it's not cast iron, but it would be like,

I suppose a rough metal that's sprayed with an enamel or whatever it is. And basically all the shit sticks to it and then it all goes a bit rotten and a bit nasty and a bit, and you can't clean it. You can't get your hand down because there's choppers there. Yes, yes. I'm not saying you wouldn't put it on anyway, but you can't physically get your arm in to clean it,

and it just smells constantly. That's interesting. Yeah. So... Just chuck a load of bleach down it, no. No, no, because it doesn't. The bleach will go straight down the hole and it won't coat the upside of the waste disposal.

The waste disposal was like a coconut. Okay. If you can imagine. So as you're using it, all this stuff is going around the top of it, and you can't clean it. I see. Unless they've got this thing that you'd clean it with now.

I don't know, but it was never was. Fair enough. So I'm not a lover, me personally. Fair do's. How have you been finding the heat? Because again, it's really hard to not talk about it. It people keep saying, oh, the heat wave's coming or we're in a heat, but we've been in a heat wave now for quite a while, as we know. And I wondered how you have found it with manual labour, manual work and the logistics of it.

Mark said someone he knew said to an employee, I'd like to go home at 2pm. And then I'll work the extra hours and come in early another day. Have you had any of that with any of your staff? I mean, yesterday it was about 35 degrees. Do you ever think it's a bit too hot to work? I just wonder your views? So first of all, I'm amazed how quickly I've become acclimatized to it. Me too.

I'm shocked. But it's 28 now. I mean, 28 in old money is quite warm. I'm not even sweating. I'm sweating my nuts off here. I know, maybe that's a woman. Are you always sweating, though, haven't you always? Always been sweaty better.

Yeah, sweaty betty. So I'm quite amazed at our other climate ties to it, but there's been a couple of afternoons when it's got up to sort of 38, when we've said to everyone, look, 3 o'clock, we'll all go home. It's just too much. Yes. But you can't do it too much because you don't earn any money. So I've had a couple, I think with us, when it's hot,

it's more about how you deal with the impact of the health. heat on you. Right. So for instance, I say to people, if you're working outside, get a cap on. I have bought, I've gone and bought Factor 50 Sun Motion and make sure people have got it on, saying to people, make sure you've got lots of drinks. If you've not got lots of drinks, go and get some. And, you know, it's all stuff you know, but it's about being, it's about being,

making sure that you're not overdoing it. So I've had a couple of days when I've gone home and felt like I've got heat or sunstroke and I feel sick. A couple of other lads have felt like that as well. Right. So you just have to try and be a little bit careful. It's a balance. It's really a balance.

So the heat is very different to snow, wind or rain. So snow, wind and rain has a direct effect on what we do and what we can do and when we can do it. Right. Whereas the heat is about managing what it does to you as an individual. So there isn't any kind of building things that change? Because for instance, surely if you're laying tarmac or or I don't know.

You've got cement in a mixer and you're laying bricks. Can you do that in 38 degrees then? Well, I think as long as you can keep your muck pliable and whatever, normally, there's certain, I mean, there's certain traits like plastering is very difficult when it's really, really hot because it's going off as soon as they're putting it on in certain instances, and that's really tough. But generally, it's about just trying to get through the day. you know

so like we can't lay bricks in under a certain temperature you know you mustn't pour concrete under a certain temperature but you can get retarders and you can get add additives now where you can

the cold is normally the worst bit an issue certainly with laying bricks and stuff like that but the heat I mean roofers you do not want to be using a blow torch or a heat gun

when you're doing felt roofing in 38 degrees. No. Not just the heat, but everything's so tinder dry. You've got more chance of fires. So for instance, my roofer, there's a couple of days, he said to me, I can't use the torch today. It's just too hot. It's too dangerous.

There are times, and there are certain trades where you think we've got to be careful with that. But generally in the heat, it just slows you down. Yeah. You just trudge. I think that's the same for everyone, really, isn't it? You just trudge, and you just sort of, you know. Get done what you can.

done what you can and, you know, you haven't been as productive as you should be, but you've still gone to work and done the day's work. I just wondered, yeah, because I was thinking about, you know, our European neighbours. Yeah. And how they have siesters, they close up. And I thought, do you think if we continue the way we're going, that's something... No is the answer. You don't think so.

No, because it's a cultural thing. Yeah. It's a cultural thing. Yeah. So what do we do for lunch? Mill deal, a bit of chicken, stuff some sushi in our gob or whatever, when you're busy. These places, they have a... Be lovely, though, wouldn't it, to sit down and have a lovely lunch?

Yeah, they'd have a two-hour lunch. And it's just, you know, culturally, they're just built differently. So to introduce that to this country, we'll take probably 200 years. I know what would happen. Just everyone would be in a pub. Yeah, exactly. They'd be hammered. We'd be able to go back to work.

Yeah, beyond the piss. You know, a lot of countries, you know, sort of Spain and Italy and those sort of, you know, those sort of warmer countries. It's all about culture and family and talking. They sit around and have a glass of wine, but they eat here. Yeah, exact, exact sort of stuff. And with us, it would just be, oh, we'd just go down the pub then. It would.

Yes. What food they go to the pub? You've got curry, chicken a basket. But it's true. Chosey and our cheese and we're just fine just go down the pub have six points.

Different culture. Sorry. I don't see it. No. Fair enough. Well, we've had some lovely messages from our listeners. Yes, we have.

So let's have a few of these. Hello, lovely. It's Sarah from Battersea. Hi, Tony. I just got the message to say you two are doing a pod so I thought, I haven't had to send a voice note

for so long. Life has just been really busy. We're going on a cruise in two days with the family. There's nine of us going all together, and we're going to different parts of Spain and Portugal. And they love a siesta over there. I envy them.

When we do go out and we get off at the ports and we go shopping, there's a lot of shops that are just shut, just totally shut. And it's very eerie and quiet, so relaxing and calm. There are a few little shops open, but yeah, they love doing siesters. And I just, I think that's great. I think we should definitely have, them over here. We all work so hard and we need a siesta. In terms of the heat, I am struggling in

these heat waves. I was sent into medically induced menopause at age 39 due to breast cancer and I have hot flushes every hour or so. So with the heat wave on top of those, it is a nightmare. I'm having like seven cold showers a day. Grands are on constantly. The bills will be through the roof but it's all worth it just to stay cool. I live in southwest London, so obviously built up area, not much breeze going around here. And yeah, I hope you're both well.

I hope everyone in the family as well. And, yeah, just wanted to reach out and send a message. I had my scan a couple of days ago, so I'll be waiting on those results. The last one I had was on your birthday, Nat. So I hope it's good news. I hope and pray that it is good news, and I can stay on this treatment that I'm on

for stage four cancer and the cancer has not grown in the last three months. So love to you both, as always, loving the pod. And yeah, you're on my lifesavers. Love you. Lovely to hear from Sarah there. Yeah, beautiful. She's our fave. So pleased to hear that you're doing well.

What a great guy. What a fighter. She's just great, isn't she? Although I tell you what, Sarah, seven cold showers a day. There's a hose pipe ban. Don't want to be knocking that about. I don't know if we're allowed seven showers at the moment. Well, not under the hose you're not.

Or right indoors. I've got a real problem with a hose pipe ban. Sorry, I have. I'm not happy about it. Well, who would be? It's ridiculous. Three times, you know, our bills have gone up. How much do we pay for water?

How much has it gone up? Yeah, but that doesn't mean anything because they're fucking clueless. They're about 20... No one's built up. It's 1992. They're 20 billion pound in debt. They've got a monopoly.

I can have a monopoly on something that's life essential and be billions of pounds in... Does that tell you the mismanagement and total clueless list of the people involved? It's ridiculous. And you're absolutely right. The reason we have droughts

is because there's not enough water storage when we have rain. No. That's it. I heard today, I might be wrong. I heard today. I think you are probably one.

It was a guy in LBC chatting. Yeah. There hasn't been one built. I mean, come on, guys. The infrastructure is ridiculous. Yeah. It's crap. But they're not going to build any reservoirs now

because at the moment they can't pay their electric bill because they're 20 gazillion pounds in debt. I mean, imagine, so I said to you, look, there's this thing we all need really, really badly. We're all going to die if we don't. have it. Yeah. We're going to die if we don't have it. I'm giving you the sole ownership and distribution rights to it. And you come back to me five years later and go, Tone, I go, what, you go, I'm 20 billion pound in debt. I'd put you in fucking prison. It's not like they're not

even competing with anyone. No. There's no competition for Walter. They own it. It's theirs. All of it. It's fucking mad. Why are they in debt then? Because they're, fucking incompetent. Totally. I only have one shower a day anyway. Yeah, I can miss a day sometimes. Oh, I know you do, yeah. Your soap, dodger.

Not in this heat. You need a shower every day, this heat. Yeah, but I'll shower the night, me. I like a shower of a night. Isn't that funny? Yeah. Sharon's very much in sort of early morning. It's like to shower first thing.

Yeah. When I come over, I've all shit in my air. Oh, of course. Dust and crap and whatever else. But then in this, when it has been really hot, I've been known to get up and have a quick shower in the morning as I think there's a lot to be said for it. Yeah.

But I know what's coming, so I don't bother. No, I get that because you're out all day, you're sweating all day. Yeah, it's hot and sweating all day. But I think, do we need to start being a bit more responsible with the water that we are using? That's another question. Hello, Nat. It's Claire from Swanley.

I'm just walking over the park, doing an early morning walks. It's going to be really hot today, apparently. I just wanted to make a comment and respond to what you and Mark were talking. about the data centres and the water. There is some talk I think it's come out of the World Health Organisation that if we carry on doing what we're doing and misusing our water we are not going to have enough water sort of in the next 10 15 years and we get our water from like the weather and the rain and all of that and the hot summers we have without any rain we're not replenishing our water but get

We're choosing to use things like Chalachy and tea or the generalised, all the AI stuff. We're making that choice. So we're just as responsible. This is my opinion. You might agree. You might not agree. But I just think, you know, when I see a trend going around social media about, you know, changing your photograph and all these cartoon things that come out that are generated by AI. and I just think, look at all the water being used

for something that you just want to look good on social media. It's just like a trend. I don't do stuff like that because I just think of the water. I'm a little bit sad and a little bit of a nerd. But where I can, I won't use AI. If I'm searching for something on the internet,

I'll put in negative AI so you don't get a lot of the AI stuff up. But we have to make conscious decisions about what we're doing because we are contributing to that because we can't expect the data centres to be running and then not have the water and then go, well, I can't water my garden, which I totally agree with you. We should be able to water our garden, but then we've got to be more responsible about how we use our resources, and that's the collective thought. And if one person makes that decision to be more mindful, and then it's followed by others, we don't have to follow the trend of AI.

We don't have to do it. I know it's there, but we can make conscious decisions about how we use stuff and how we live our lives. Anyway, that's my little rant. I hope you're okay. Speak you soon. Bath. I think it's a very good point. I think it's a very, very intelligent point well made. Yeah.

The fact of the matter is, it's a total pointless argument because if companies are allowed to develop this technology and give it to people, people will use it. Yeah. I understand completely where she's come from. And as an individual, you can make the choice. Yes. So I'm not going to use chat, GBT, everything I need. I don't use it. I don't.

I just don't. I just don't want to use it. I don't know why I just don't. And people go out to me, oh, you know, I was asking chat, GBT about my kitchen and it done me a kitchen design.

Yes. Which is all wonderful and great and whatever else. But the fact of the matter is, is that the big businesses that are driving this and pushing this are, I mean,

we're getting into different discussions. Yeah. If they were told, You're not doing this. We're not going to give you a licence to build a 146 hectare data centre in Cambridge or whatever they're going to do or Sussex or whatever it's going to be. We're not giving you a licence to do it. You're not having it.

You're not doing it in our country. If they were told that, then it would stop and they would have to find some other way of getting people hooked on their services, on their data, on their meta, on their... Yes, artificial intelligence, etc. on whatever it is they're trying to do. Well, it's really made me think, though, because again, it's a habit.

You start that chat, GBT, and then you think, oh, I'm going on holiday soon. Instead of Googling, which is enough, really, it's enough. Have a Google, go on Safari and find stuff. Now you can go, I'm going here, here and here. Could you plan me out? Where are the good spots? It's lazy, is what it is.

It's not lazy. It's a resource that is free and readily available at your fingertips. It's not lazy. Wow. It's not. It's just very... Look, let's not get back on the moon pig. Let's not.

No. But we are talking about easy, internet-based resources. Yes. And people will choose those over difficult, got to do this, got to get a book, got to read it and got to look at Google. with you, and they're going to do it. Sorry, that's what people are going to do because everyone wants an easier life and everyone wants less aggravation. And just quick, because time, it's about saving time. So I completely agree with the sentiment. But unfortunately, unless, like most things, unless you stop it at the top. Yes, I agree. Unless you stop it at the top and say, no, this is, no, sorry, this is wrong. Yeah.

And I know about data centers. I know people that build, not people personally, but I know people involved in the data. centre weld. Really? And there's issues with legacy. There's data centres now that were built 15 years ago and they are not worth anything. Because they can't hold the technology that's required. They have not got the infrastructure.

They haven't got the water supply. They haven't got the power supply. So could you talk to me, I don't know how much you do know, so I'm not putting you on the spot. But the water thing, I don't. Is it to call these centres down? As I understand it, I'm not an expert on the technology. But in layman's terms, when you do a search on AI search, it takes a litre of water.

Right. A litre of water for that search. A litre? Or whatever it. Don't quote me on it. No, I know. I heard a bottle. I heard a bottle of water.

All right. 500 milliliters, half a litre. Yes. That matters. I know it does. But there is a finite amount of water for each search. There is a direct correlation. But why is that?

Why is that? Because you have to call the servers down. I mean, I can only, I don't know the technology. No, no, fine. But clearly the technology that exists is. Hang on, I'm just going to go on GPT and find out about the technology about it. But, look, years ago, when I was, when I did data centers 30 years ago, you have to call them down.

Right, so you've got, we used to have to call, If you've got an air conditioning unit in your bedroom, that is about three kilowatts for your bedroom at its total highest cooling capacity. So it probably needs about 150, 200 watts a square meter, say, to provide your bedroom with adequate cooling. Yes. Yeah, so if you've got a 15 square meter bedroom, 200 watts of square meter is about 3 kilowatts of cooling, right?

So back in the day when I was involved with data centres, we used to use about 2,000 watts a square metre of cooling to cool the server racks down. And that was generally done by large refrigerant-based air conditioning units that would pump freezing cold it, like a big fridge. Yes. So you've got a compressor that compresses gas, creates very, very cold conditions in pipes,

run air over it and pump that into the space. Right. Otherwise, everything overheats and stops working. My involvement in that stopped 30 or years ago. Yeah, of course. Can you imagine the strides and what have been made in 30 years? Yes. So I can only assume now, and I don't want people sort of writing it

or whatever messaging and saying, he don't know what you're talking about. I'm surmising. Yes. But I can only assume that the cooling load is so great, is so great that these racks have to physically be putting water or have to be in a liquid environment to cool them because just doing it by air isn't enough.

I don't know. But what I know is, is that AI data centers are taking humongous amounts of water, massive amounts of water. What a bad world we live in. Yeah, it is a mad world. Water is the most important thing in our lives. It is. Without it, you'll die. It's crazy, isn't it?

Yeah. But AI? Yeah, but stop it. But we can live without AI. Yeah. Because we've done that. We've lived... For 20,000, 50,000, whatever many thousand years.

We don't need it, do we? We don't need it. We don't need any of it. Don't need any of it. Don't need any of it. Don't need any of it. We all lived without it before. Got on with it.

People made millions, lost millions. We're poor. We're rich. We're all. All the same stuff that we do now, exactly the same stuff has happened. for thousands of years. Yeah. And now we're doing this thing.

I know, but I was talking about this, and you, I know, you're getting into sort of deep shit now. But I love not having my phone. If I go on holiday, I leave my phone. I'll look at it for maybe half an hour, see emails or what have you. I could absolutely live without it, but I couldn't in what I do.

So I'm stuck, aren't I? If I said, no, I'm going to throw that way. Oh, no. I can't get social campaigns or promote the pod. No. So it's very, very... Messages from people. But that I make...

Messages, WhatsApp. Yeah. So that annoys me a little bit. It does, yeah. And also you can get... Bound to it? No, sorry. I'm buying to it almost, aren't I?

I think also it just grabs you. It just does. It's just quick dopamine and all that, which we all know about, stuff like that. But I think we're going down a very dangerous route with AI. Yeah. They're really talking about. about in 10 years there won't really need for money because AI will do everything that you need to pay for and there's all this stuff going on.

Yeah, it's going to be... Elon Musk has said it. In 15 years you won't need money. What does that mean? The whole entire financial system of the world crashes and burns. I don't know what that means. It's huge. It's a huge thing. Oh, I know, yeah. Did you watch the Elon Musk documentary? I might have watched a bit of it. Scary stuff.

Scary. Not as scary as in with no t-shirt on. That was scary. Sorry, Elon, if you're listening. Off. Fucking, nowhere to be. It's wiped off the face of the planet. We can't get life with that anywhere anymore.

Instagram goes. Everything is gone. He just points one of his lasers at the pod room. and we're all, and that's it, although everything's blown to bits, all of our machinery is gone. Gone.

I saw a post today, and again, it's ridiculous because I saw it on Instagram, so you're talking about these things. I always think that, you're like reading these really wonderful quotes, all about not being on social media, but you're reading them on social media.

It's fucking mad, all of it's mad. But Steve Jobs told the world not to give kids iPads. That's right. And most people treat, it like a casual suggestion rather than a warning. And I always say this. I always say this.

People in Silicon Valley, all their children went to school and they didn't touch technology until they were 12. Because the people that created it knew the dangers. So if those people that created it didn't allow their children to have a screen, Why should I give my child a screen? Because it's an easy option.

Because you've been provided with something that's an easy option. I don't think at the beginning it's an easy option. No, no. It's a new exciting thing. Exactly. But all these things, it's like the Terminator film. Not seen it. Oh, I'll leave off.

I haven't. You've not seen any of the Terminator films. No. Oh, just getting up and leaving now, this is fucking ridiculous. You're not saying Star Wars? No. Oh, just sorry. That's completely from me.

Well, there's no point. That's cut that conversation off straight away. No, go on, because other people all have obviously 90% would have watched it probably. What we're talking about has a link. The Terminator film is basically about a world that embraces AI, embraces technology, embraces robots, and embraces, a defence system called Skynet that is designed to defend America

and defend. And Skynet becomes intelligent and then causes a nuclear war to wipe out humans so that Skynet and the robots and the... Can take over. And the cyborgs can be the ruling species, right?

Everyone thought really far... Brilliant films, but a bit far-fetched. You've now got... We were in a situation where you've got... People are saying, that they're going to build something like 10 billion cyborg robots in the next 20 years to look after people and to do this and to do chores and to build houses and to do, so everything's going to be done by cyborgs or whatever it is

and we're all going to be like sitting on a beach and whatever else. And so the point I'm making is that I watched a film when I was 10 or 12 or whatever was the original one. and it was so, you thought it was a brilliant film, but it's obviously science fiction, but now within the next 10 or 15 years, it will be science fact. Yes.

And they are already talking about, again, with all these things, if you dive a little bit deeper and look into it, they are talking about these AI systems becoming self-learning. Yes. They are talking about them becoming more intelligent than humans. Not yet,

but the rate at which this stuff multiplies, technology multipliers, the capability to compute multipliers, all this stuff, you will be looking at a, from what I'm reading, you're going to be looking at a major, massive social, structural shift and change within the next 15 years. Can't wait for it. Bomb happy.

As long as I don't go fishing, I couldn't give a fuck. All the robots will be doing the maggots. They'll be breeding them. You'll be going in the shop. I'll get decent stuff. I reckon so. If the cyborgs are breeding me maggots, I'll get decent ones. I reckon they'll be really sucking them on that power coin.

I won't get some of the old shit that I'll get now. I reckon there'll be special stuff. So I'm right up for it. I won't have anywhere to live. Why? Because the cyborgs will have taken it all. Oh, fair enough, yeah. What do you think the cyborgs could do for me?

Um... You'd have one in your house, wouldn't you cleaning and that, wash in? In 15 years' time, they might be installing air conditioning, so we won't be sitting there sweating our bullocks off again. Good point. Yeah, there you go. Do you remember last pod we were talking about pets and telling your children, you know, breaking it to them?

We had a cracking message here, Sue, from Warrington, right? Hi, Nat and Tony, just listening to your podcast, you were talking about what parents tell their children when their pets die. A relative of mine told their children that their children that their dog had gone to live with Queen Elizabeth at Pal Moral Girls in Scotland. That's bold. As he would get lots of fresh air

and the Queen would take him on really long walks. Love all the pods from Sue. It's a great one, isn't it? Dogs are going to live with a Queen. Yeah. Can't argue that one. No, you can't get better than that. Hi, it's Emma from Edward. I'm absolutely crying.

this tears running down my face because I've just listened to your Patreon special with Tony about the bird about the bird I'm sorry I am absolutely dying my eyes of water

and the mascara has gone in my eyes that's the funny story I've heard in ages I just imagine his poo flowing towards his fella honestly I'm crying I have to say tell Tony for me That's absolute banner of a story.

I have to say the worst place I have to do is shit, is at work because we've got one toilet in a salon of about 25 staff, plus the hundreds of clients that we have through the door, there's one toilet. And I kid you not, I cannot poo at work. I will hold it in all day to go home with the stomachate, honestly. Many of the times I've been driving home listening to your pod and needing a poo. I'm to share that one with you.

So that's my worst place is my everyday life at work. I can't put at work. I just can't do it. I don't know if it's, I'm scared. Someone's going to go in and go, oh my God, that stinks. But I just can't relax. To be honest, I'm not really good pooing anywhere else other than my own toilet.

So anyway, thanks for really making me laugh out loud. Absolute brilliant. Lots of love. Oh, brilliant, Emma. Yeah, it went down well. Honestly, if you've got a spare six quid, just sign up to live to live. listen to the Tony shit episode.

And then you can just cancel it again. I'll be honest. I went home after the last time we did this. And Sharon said to me, what did you talk about? Oh, no. I said, shit. She went, no, don't be like, no, that's what we talked about. And she looked at me like I was about.

And then I said I told them the fishing story and the that story and that story and she did laugh. And I actually, I don't like listening or looking or watching myself, but I did watch a bit of it. And even I laughed at some of it because it was quite good. It is good. So, yeah. And we've actually had a few of those messages. And on Patreon, we've had quite a lot of people saying they're absolutely crying with laughter.

They've said that episode, they're happy to pay for a year just for that episode. So there you go. So for six quid. If you're down in the dumps and you fancy a bit of a laugh and you're not eating your dinner, give it a go. Give it a while. Give it a while. We've got a message from Lottie.

Hey Natalie, Tony talks working in the heat. We should live like the Spanish, work shorter days and have time for family. Never going to happen, but that's the ideal. My perfect balance would be 8am to 2.30pm each day. That would give a lovely family balance and make us present as mum's, maybe even time around the dinner table altogether. again. Obviously this hugely depends on the job, office, window cleaner, co-op shop or radio DJ, but once general office hours change, this could help other sectors change too. Also,

Aircon needs to be a must. If, and where possible, I'm sweating my coconuts off at the moment. Love to you and yours. Speak soon, Lottie. I like that, sweating my coconuts off. Yes, that's a good term. It's a good term of phrase. Not one I've heard. I like it better than sweating my tits off. Yes. It's just a little bit classier. It is. It is.

And coconuts, it's sort of, you know, you're thinking about maybe the sea breeze. And swaying in the sort of tropical. Tropical. Yeah, yeah. And also just visually, I know what she's talking about when she says my coconuts. Yeah, but not, it's not literal. It's just nice. Yeah.

Classia. Yeah, classier. Classy lady. Hi, no. This is Kim from up in Northumberland. I've just seen you having to chat with Tony tonight and even though I am only on episode 112 I thought I'd just send a quick note in

I'm busy doing my cleaning job and I am absolutely sweating and it's not even as hot up here as it will be down there in the south and I think all houses should be built with aircon systems in them so that I can use them for hot and definitely for cold absolutely loved there's DIY pod that you did with Tony episode 119

I think years are just absolutely great together your band has mint and love how you're teaching different people how to do things and trying to help as many people as you can these are just awesome second episode on grief that I just listened to thought that was really really good got us to let out a little cry

which you know definitely all need from time to time and I'm also looking forward to sown some seeds but whether that will have to be in a different month of the year, given what's going on with the temperature at the moment. Who knows? Maybe I'll get some further pods down the line, but I'm currently on 122, so got a long time to go, but at 30 hours a week of listening to you, it won't take us too long.

Anyway, keep doing what you do and love the pod. Sorry, it's over a minute. Bye. That lovely that she's listening right from the beginning. We're over 250 now. I know. But just lovely that she's cracking on with it. 30 hours a week she's listening to.

One of the most, I think one of the most loveliest dialects and turn of phrases I've heard in a long time, your buntar is mint. Love it. Absolutely love it. Really nice, actually. Yeah, really nice. She's got a long way to go though, aren't she? She's halfway through already.

I don't know when she started. I'd like to know when she started. Yeah. Because I reckon if she's smashing out 30 hours a week, I don't think it'll be long. That's a job. Yeah. Proper job.

It's basically a job listening to the podcast. Oh, she's cleaning. Yeah, true. Yeah. So she's on the move. She's going to get sick of it. Do you reckon? Oh, God.

You can't listen constantly to the same thing, can you? I do. Do you really? I only listen to Chatterpix. Right, okay. Which, again, is very, not niche, but you've got a sort of, like those boys to be able to sort of listen to their shit all day. But if I'm in bed and I can't sleep, that goes on.

If I'm cooking and I don't want the radio on or whatever, I'll put them on. That's the only pod I listen to now. The others have fallen by the wayside, but I just like that quirkiness. There you go. But thank you so, so much for listening. And it's lovely, lovely that you're listening.

Thank you. We need to do a little building one, and have a little advice one time. Well, you know, I'm sort of, quite up for any time. I know you are. I know you are. I think the problem is,

is that the last one we did. Yeah. Which, I can't remember when it was, but I think we got, like 60 messages or something. There was loads and loads and loads and loads and loads. Maybe we just go back then over those.

They probably, I think you've got to start again, but the problem is that we just, there's no way we can reply or answer all of them. I'd be, yeah, but everyone knows that. Everybody does know that. I know, but I feel bad.

No, I know. If someone's taking the time to message in or do a voice, I know, but you can't. And people understand. Yeah. It's impossible. The messages I get every day, everyone knows that I'm doing it.

Yeah. And people get it. People know that you can't do it all all the time. But yeah, 07,000, 28, 20, 19, 19, don't ever forget, when me and Tony are on, you can always ask Tony a question about your decoration, your building, garden issues, patios,

you know, anything to do with DIY our building at all, remember that you can always drop us a bit of a question for his advice.

And it doesn't matter what pod we're on. We'll always do that. Yeah, yeah. So please remember. Yeah. Hi, Nat. This is Julie from Wiltshire.

I just saw your message about talking about the weather and stuff with Tony tonight. One of my sons lives in Mallorca and I go there quite a lot and I've been there a lot this year

and the heat is unbearable some days, constantly 38 degrees in recent weeks. You just can't live there without air conditioning. Even when you go into the town, you're going from one shop to another just to breathe on a really hot day. You just can't do it, you know. But having said that, early evening, they do stuff like the locals, they go to the beach at half-past eight in the morning or earlier, half-past seven.

they have a completely different thought about the weather. They do stuff in the morning. They do stuff in the early evening and evening. And, you know, that's something I think we have to learn, really. Because, and the whole siesta thing, I used to think, because my daughter-in-law, she still likes a siesta when she comes to the UK. And I find it quite funny that she wants to sleep. But when you're out there in the heat,

it's essential. It's absolutely essential to have a little nap in the afternoon because the heat just gets to you so much. You need it to get through the day. And that's everyone of every age, really. I'm in my 60s, so I definitely needed it. Anyway, love the pod. Keep going.

I absolutely love listening to you girls. Speak soon. Bye. Oh, thank you so much, Thamesham. What lovely lady. Lovely. But she's, again, we go back to it, it's a cultural thing, isn't it? So it's a very famous song back in the whenever it was.

Only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun. Yes. Which is true. The locals look at you like you're mad. Yes. If you're doing anything other than sitting in a cafe in bed or lying under a sun lounger between 12 and 3. 12 and 2 or 11 and 2 or whatever it is, you're a complete nutcase. Yeah.

It's just culturally different. And also as well, they get the heat longer all year round. Yes, but I feel like we are now getting through. We're not, we're not. We've had one summer for the first time since 1976 where it's been extreme temperatures. Yeah, that's true. Sorry.

No, it's true. And if you look at, also there was a thing on the other day I saw in 76, it was the temperatures were about the same as now, and it was just like sunshine. You know, they put, they stuck the sun things on. Yes. Now it's all red. Extreme heat.

You're all going to die. You're all going to die. It's over 15 degrees. You're all dead. That's the message they're sending. With the red. With the red. It's red.

Bright red. You're all burning in hell. It's that. Literally. It's true. And the fact of the matter is, in the last, from 76 to now, we've had a few long dry summers, a few days when it's been 30 and not very often. The last few years has been with a bit more of it.

We might just as likely have a wet summer next year and it'd be rubbish. You know, we don't know what's going to happen with the cycles of weather and all the rest of it. Yeah. So there is definitely a place for a slight change in the way we do things in the summer. but because we're used to four seasons and we're used to not having wall-to-wall sunshine for nine months of the year which some of these countries have

culturally, it's not going to happen. No, it's true. You know, you're not going to be in the middle of January and it's freezing cold and you go, you're in the office to go, I've got to go and have a kit back, see you later. I do. I know you do, yeah, but you ain't got a proper job.

Never had a proper job in your life, have you? You know, I could be working in a house with no windows. And at midday, I'll go over and right, just going to go and lay on the floor and have a sleep for two hours, amongst all the cement and the sawdust. It's not going to happen. No. No, it's not going to happen.

So whilst I understand certain issues, and I understand the way they feel about stuff at the moment, we'll talk about it again in February. In February, when it's freezing cold, and, you know, we've all got, soaking wet feet and white shoes. Fair enough. Hi, and that.

It's probably a bit late for this pod now, but we've just been at Johnson Zoo feeding Capoebaras. So anyway, yeah, just about your pod tonight, Tony, talking about the heat and that we have in. I think I don't know how we build our houses differently because obviously we have cold winters as well as very hot summers. But I think with the fact that they have like government grants for solar panels, I think they should be having that in with aircon units as well

because I think that's something that we're going to keep needing in the future. We're lucky we got ours like three years ago, two units. But we're going to get two for the kids' rooms next year. My daughter ended up in hospital because of the heat this year. She was really, really sick. So yeah, and she's going to continue to be vulnerable. So I think it's definitely something that, you know, and we need to look into.

And I also think, you know, we have a minimum temperature of what we're allowed to work in and what the kids are allowed in school in. So why don't we have a maximum temperature? I think, you know, that's something they definitely need to look into. So, yeah, I don't know, there's lots to think about in there. But anyway, I love your Tony and Nat chats and your relationship together. So, yeah, love you lots. And this is Jess from Huntington.

See ya. Oh, thanks, Jess. Sorry to hear that your daughter was Paula. There's nothing worse, is there? But yeah, I think you're right. I don't know about government now putting aircon units. They won't because it's not energy saving. They're only one about saving energy and CO2 and whatever.

And the air conditioning just spends more of that and uses more of it. Don't mind the data centres, do they? No, they don't, no. That's fine. Yeah, that's fine. Someone's getting loads of money somewhere for it. That's fine. We can drain all the rivers for the data centres and stuff,

but you can't have a towel when you're far from or whatever. So the thing about building houses differently and, you know, can the technology change? The problem is we have to build houses for four seasons. Yes. It's the same thing I was just talking about. Exactly what Jess said, yeah. And if you look at the way they build houses, not in Greece, in Spain, a lot of Italian. They are all solid, brick built, concrete, whatever it is.

They are solid. Tiles, shutters. But they've got zero insulation in them. Nope. Right. So what happens is they're very, they're cooler in the summer. Yes. So their thermal mass absorbs the heat, lets it out of a night.

They cool naturally. And so that helps. Not in extreme conditions. You've still got an air condition. I'm not saying that. But their forms of construction are built because of their warm, hot, dry climate. Yes. If we built those same properties here, you'd have terrible mould and condescending.

condensation problems because they don't have the humidity, they don't have the wetness, the dampness, they don't have the cold. You know, we can have a winter that's mild, sort of cold, mild and wet from October to April. Yes, yes, true. And so we've got to build houses that deal with all of the issues that we've got as an island in the middle of an ocean.

Yes. So, unfortunately, even though modern construction now is very, very, very, heavily insulation based and loads of insulation and stop heat loss and try and stop heat gain and you know you've got glass and shading and all that sort of stuff to try and stop heat coming at the end of the day you have to build a home that's for all four seasons and that's where we suffer no i understand it i haven't found the aircon man again i know leave it now till next year we'll get away of it no i'll do it october so it's got to be a bit cheaper What you've got to do is you've got to do it in January

because they can get the stuff then. At the moment they can't get stuff. I'll do it in January. There's so many people want it. I mean, I've got through this. Yeah. Might as well just crack on the shit. Just crack on weight, yeah.

When I had mine done, I was fortunate. Yes. But when they installed the pipes first for you. Can I ask you one thing before you continue? Sorry. You sent me the name of the AECON person. Is that his real name? No.

Fine. His name's Tommy. Yes. And his company is Frostbite. But when you sent me Tommy. But when you sent me Tommy Frostbite. You thought, he thought, can you imagine if that was actually his name

and that's what he's gone into? Mr. Frostbite. And that's the business he's in. That's the business he's in. But it would have been brilliant, isn't it? It would be great, yeah. And sorry, and this is the thing. I have known people.

So Tommy, I've known for five years. I don't know surname. Oh, all the time. Vic, who he's a partner. Yeah. Don't know surname. No. Right?

There's blokes I've been fishing with for years. We don't even know their name probably. I don't even know their surname. I think it's a bloke thing. You say, oh, it's John the Gas or the Plummer. Yeah, it's like Chinese Allen or... Yeah. It's like Smithy, isn't it?

Yeah. When they're talking about whoever's done the pub. Exactly, yes. Steve the bin. Don't know his name. Don't know his surname. His name's Steve the bin. So what happens is, is that let's imagine they committed a crime.

This is what I always think of. Right. Imagine someone like that committed a crime. Yeah. And the police had them in, and they wanted to know all these known associates. And they'd get me in, and they'd go, right, Steve the bin's been arrested.

He's going, oh, God, what's he done? I don't matter about that. You're a known associate. So I want to know what you know about him. Oh, all right, yeah, I know him from the pub, yeah. So his surname is such as, oh, no, I don't know his surname. they go, are you having a laugh? It's true.

You've known this bloke for seven years. You've been drinking with him on a Friday night for the last seven years and you don't know his surname and you say no. Yeah, but you know what? You're absolutely right. And I'm thinking now, I don't think I know Brian's surname. No.

I don't think I do. I've got a mate of mine. His mum listens to the podcast. I call him squid, because he calls everyone squid, Richard. And I only found out his surname. I've known him about 10 years. I only found out his surname about two years ago. And for eight years, I just called him squid.

Didn't even know his name was Richard. I swear. I had some lovely squid in Covent Garden every day. Lovely. It was like being on holiday. It was that hot day. Sat down there, a little bit of squid. Yeah.

Nice. It has to be right, though, didn't it, Squid? At what time was this, in Coving, Covent Garden. About one o'clock. Was it really? Oh, lovely. Yeah.

Nice. Took Jane to the Transport Museum. Earlier in James. And we took the bucket to the Transport Museum. Excellent. But we just thought we'd stop off and have a little Hugo Spritz and a bit of squid. Whereabouts? The place outside, where all the entertainers are?

Yeah, yeah, the Palat. Piazza. V something. I can't remember. Italian. Nice. Nice. So we just sat there from.

an hour. Nice. Got the train. I do like a bit of squid. Must be right, though, this is. I know. Years ago, sorry, just one other story. Years ago, I went on, I'll leave some mates, and we went to Ibifa, and then one night

we decided that we was going to cook our own dinner, which was a massive mistake. Of course. But we were in these apartments, and there was a supermarket downstairs. So we went down, we bought the best, what we could find. So we bought some Frankfurters, which were sausages, some streaky bacon, which was not really what we wanted. We managed to find beans and obviously eggs. and then we bought onion rings. Yes.

Right? So we cooked it all up and we ended up having squid with an English breakfast because the onion rings were squid. They were calamari. They were calamari. But we didn't know because it was all in Spanish.

Was it nice? No, it's fucking horrible. And on that note, I hope you have a fantastic rest of the week, everybody. 077-828-201919. Please follow us on Instagram, live in that pod. And if you go there, you'll see the Comey,

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