Life with Nat - EP26: Scraping the barrel #4

Episode Date: July 17, 2024

Another episode with Nat and Marc. They chat about how Nat being in the public eye affects life, how Nat likes to get involved with everything behind the scenes when filming and they put the shopping bag theory to bed. Enjoy! Please subscribe, follow, and leave a review. xxx You can find us in all places here; https://podfollow.com/lifewithnat/view INSTA: @natcass1 A 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] SHOW INFO: Life with Nat - it’s me! Natalie Cassidy and I’ll be chatting away to family, friends and most importantly YOU. I want to pick people's brains on the subjects that I care about- whether that’s where all the odd socks go, weight and food or kids on phones. Each week I will be letting you into my life as i chat about my week, share my thoughts on the mundane happenings as well as the serious. I have grown up in the public eye and have never changed because of it. Life with Nat is the podcast for proper people. Come join the community. ♥️ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

hello and welcome to life with matt on this lovely thursday morning i hope you're really really good i'm joined by emma and lovely mark we've got a scrape in the barrel part four today how are you darling i'm good thank you good excellent emma how are you sweetheart i'm all right thanks lovely thank you all for your wonderful messages about all my episodes i've been receiving so many lovely voice notes and stuff and scott lovely scott went down really well scott my agent and friend we spoke a lot about barbara his late wife and her struggle with dementia and we ran the marathon for her and we also spoke a lot about how scott felt being in the shadows a little bit of barbara um and i thought it'd be

quite interesting to touch on that with you mark well i thought that episode was so insightful as somebody you know for someone that was in that relationship yeah and to be with someone of that kind of notoriety and what their life must have been like. It was fascinating. And Scott's so eloquent when he speaks about all of that side of things. Yeah. I thought it was interesting because there were things that he was mentioning that I sort know I sort of you know could relate to yeah because I as soon as Scott started talking about that stuff it did remind me on a very lower scale because Barbara was Barbara obviously very very different to me but obviously when we're out and about I do get recognized a lot

and you do get treated in a different way I think treated in a different way in in terms of what in terms of maybe if we were sat in a restaurant together i feel like people will come over to me first people serving staff serving staff or people will in a shop people talk to me first before you they do yeah it's a funny one because i always remember very early on in our relationship perhaps i don't know we've maybe been together maybe a year or 18 months or something and we'd spent a long period of time at home i wasn't working much you weren't working much and it was over christmas yes and i really remember well going shopping we had to go to sainsbury's and yeah do a shop and as we were walking around the supermarket there was sort of people looking over like looking at me

and i was thinking like what are you looking at you sort of looked at my t-shirt did i have a mark on it and then i realized oh you know i forgot about this this is what happens when we go shopping and it had been so long since we'd left the house yeah i genuinely completely forgotten about it. Yeah. And then I... Is that when we watched the whole of Only Fools and Horses? Possibly. On box set? Possibly.

Yeah, we probably were doing something like that. Yeah. We just hadn't been out much. We'd been at home. We'd had a lovely time, seen family. Yeah. Friends had come over. We just really hadn't gone anywhere.

You know, you'd done a massive shop. Yeah, lovely. There was no need to leave the house. we just really hadn't gone anywhere you know you've done a massive shop yeah lovely there was no need to to leave the house and uh it just had been completely an aspect of our life that i'd forgotten about the girls don't like it when we're out and about and i get recognized but again i think i think it's what you become used to in a way because it's a part and parcel of your profession your job and i think that it's it's kind of like a byproduct really and you understand why it is and very much so i mean you have to have fans, don't you, and followers. Of course. To do what I do and for people to like what I do.

People have watched me on the television. They've grown up with me in their living rooms. And now I'm doing other things too. And they want to come over and say they're enjoying it, which is really lovely. It's just the odd time when someone will get a phone out and you know someone's taking a picture of you without asking or that really annoys eliza yes i understand that me too but no i think it's it's an interesting one isn't it because from the kids point of view all they've ever known is is there is a possibility

and it happens you know they turn the telly on and you're there yeah and it's something that you you do i suppose for some people most people the concept of being on television is quite unusual you know people get excited about the prospect of being on telly they look for themselves on telly you know if they're if they're at an event or something yeah whereas obviously you are on the telly as are many other people um but it does make me laugh you know like there's been times where we've come home from school and you know we've turned the tv on and you're on it or there's an advert of you on it or you know whatever it might be yes yeah joni doesn't even sort of she doesn't bat an eyelid no and neither does eliza and it's because they've sort of always known the fact that that is mummy's job isn't it your job yeah and i think they get it in quite a you know they're very grounded

because of how we brought them up yes and i think they really do understand it is your job yeah very much so i don't think they would ever think of mummy as a famous person or no or a starry person no and that's because you're you know because i'm not well you're a very grounded lovely normal human being which is it's nice which is true and and it is it does set you aside from maybe the odd person yeah in your position that isn't quite like that or you know maybe well i've always just seen it as a job but i think that's because i was 10 yeah very much so and i believe that i never i never desperately wanted it no and i think if you're 16 coming out of a drama school desperately wanting it and then you get it yeah i think that is worse than being a little girl

and going along somewhere and keeping that job because it has always just been normal for me very much so but it was interesting with what scott was saying because you know he was sort of saying you know he'd go into a be at an event or a party or something and and people would be talking across him well i'm trying to think of times where that's the case well i think what's important to say is i don't think it's done in a rude way no i think it's people naturally talk to me first because they feel like they know me well and also if you weren't known there'd be no reason for someone not to talk to you first you're you're much more outgoing than i am well that is true you know so there's not i don't think there's some sort of right to say well you know i'm not to. It's a lie. No, but I just mean, I just mean in general,

if we've been, people will look at me for a long period of time and not even look over at you. That's strange. I'm just saying in any circumstance. Yes. You should make eye contact with everybody. But again, it's exactly what Scott... But it's only because they're excited.

But Scott said, you know, there were times where, you know, someone would speak to him or include him. And he sort of made a decision immediately, you know, you're right. Yeah. And I just thought it's really interesting. There were lots of things he said that I thought, yeah, I can certainly relate to that yeah no it was a lovely episode and it went down really well definitely going to do a marathon one with him about our training for the two marathons we've done together we should do yeah it'd be really good I've had a few people message saying they're

training for a marathon listening to the pod and uh they'd really like that so definitely going to do that yeah i always find it extremely rude if i'm walking around a supermarket with my trolley and people stare into it to see what i'm buying yes which is that is quite strange they do they they have a good old look a good old old look it can't be many people that do that though i would say 100 one every time i go i've got a question on the shopping front oh yeah what is the most common thing said to you if you're in a supermarket you don't frequent so it's not like you're going to a place you often go to where people know you yeah and i'm asking this because i've been in this position before where you've approached someone at the checkout yeah the person starts scanning your items oh and i know exactly what that question is what

is the question that everyone asks? The question is, oh, I've not seen you in here. Do you live nearby? Is that the most... Do you live nearby? Very good. Why? What was it?

I think people would find it interesting. Oh, I just wonder what you thought it might be. One I've heard a lot. Yeah. But I'm not... You know better than I do. One I've heard a lot is, oh, not you know better than i do yeah one i've heard a lot is oh not working today then oh yeah that is a very good one that might be more actually than

do you live nearby how far how far away are you from here not seen you in here before i think not working today then is an absolute classic something i've noted. Not working today then. I think, now I've spoken to other people in the public eye and when this subject's been brought up and I've mentioned that one to them and they've said, yeah, do you know what, that does get said a lot.

Yeah, it does. And I think that is, I mean, obviously it's a bit of an icebreaker. Definitely. it does and i think that is i mean obviously it's a bit of an icebreaker definitely it's also in a sentence acknowledging i know who you are that's right without saying exactly who you are but i've just always found that fascinating no it's good maybe we should we should start winding people up when they say not working today so yeah i'll start my shift in 20 minutes vera maybe we should we should start winding people up when they say not working today then say yeah I'll start my shift in 20 minutes Vera

you always said you wanted a job at M&S yeah I'd love a job at M&S just for the discount well staff discount talking of shopping I've been inundated with messages from our last Scraping the Barrel. Yes.

Where we spoke about shopping bags. I'm going to play some to you, but you have done very well. Listen to some of these. I'm going to start with a lovely message from tracy from stanford and she said hi nat just been catching up on my fake could you leave it alone i'm just turning my volume down i swear to god i've never met anyone that fiddles so much with equipment i'm just turning the volume down I genuinely can't believe how much you fiddle around with equipment let him fiddle with his knob

nah carry on film again I'll tell you what though Em you two are terrible the knob fiddling yeah is insane is it

annoying you yeah I'll refrain from doing that please okay if you could he does it with a telly m as well oh yeah i'm not being horrible to him but you're watching something and then he'll go on to settings mode and then he's on all of the settings not just kind of volume whatever he goes right in he goes all the way in and he's on looking at what is it you look at?

obviously nothing important no but no just watch the telly doesn't matter it's because the kids have fiddled with it no they have not yes it is

they haven't it is I just can't it really annoys me when the TV starts mucking about with the picture I don't get it

and then he was doing it today and can I just say doing what today? starts mucking about with the picture. I don't get it. And then he was doing it today. And can I just say... Doing what today? He's been in this room all day making the room a better place for us. Oh, yeah, he gave you new holes. He did, though. I've got photos.

Someone's been doing a stand up Oh dear I've got new holes in my table All the wires are now in the holes There's a reason why that's been done quite swiftly Em Oh yeah Well I believe you know why I believe that Mark and yourself have been texting quite a lot recently.

Have we? My nanny hoovered up the wire. Oh, yes, I did hear about... She was very upset. She was very upset regarding hoovering up and chewing up the wire. But my question to Laura is, why did you come in here and ho over anyway when there's a load of wires on the floor my mum did that once with the phone charger do you remember she hoovered up my

phone charger oh did she yeah no i don't remember that no it's in the old house okay yeah i just don't know why you'd put a hoover near any wires. Were they particularly dusty? No, not particularly. No. I think she just quite likes coming in this space. Yeah. She's a bit of a fan now, isn't she, of your pod? Yeah, she does love it.

She quite likes, you know. She'll listen to this. She'll die, won't she? Anyway, there you go. Bless her. All sorted now though new cable yeah lovely cable in yeah we've got as you can see our new video set up lovely looking good isn't it yeah really nice so thank you darling for that you're welcome thank you for doing that today but what was i fiddling with you said i was fiddling light the ring light these lights

yeah then you were i'll tell you what he was doing he was going on to the microphones m and then pressing all the buttons where it says pod mic and because there was an effect on your one there wasn't there was not there was and i took it off only because you'd probably put it on right so that's what i'm talking about it's technical quite like it yeah leave it alone all right anyway it's his studio now i know he's getting very comfortable i feel very uncomfortable with his red wine now yeah it's alright we've got some big news in massive news actually Emma oh yeah from Melbourne

is that a place the place Melbourne in Australia yeah not Melbourne from down the road well I wondered I was just checking

butcher isn't he I've just been doing the food shop and thought of you Viennetta, $8, about four quid. Oh,

$8 in Melbourne. Wow. Two pounds in Ware Asda, someone sent me today. So I know where I'd rather live. It is about time that, you know,

you'd think we might have got one free Viennetta by now don't need it do because they're cheap cheap as chips over here oh yeah but it's fine they get mentioned quite often they do but that's the way it is this is what happens with pods you get little things and you carry on doing it it's brilliant kim from salisbury said hey nat random but listening to pod 22 and you mentioned walls viennetta now my friends local and little independent cafe in salisbury do walls viennetta affogatos oh what a lovely thing you love an affogato don't you i'm not sure i know what you're talking about do you remember when we went to Domino and Lisa's wedding?

Yes. And we went to that nice Italian restaurant. Yes. And after the pizzas. The ice cream with coffee. Yes. Yes. That's an affogato.

Right. So in Salisbury, get yourself down there. They're doing a Viennetta affogato. Lovely. Viennetta slices with the coffee in. Does that not add like all the texture of the crunchy viennetta bits i would imagine it does but surely the advantage not the advantage but the thing that's nice about the uh ice cream with coffee affogato is the warm coffee obviously melts the ice cream but it would

melt the chocolate wouldn't it to a certain extent also and then you'd have a little bit of biscotti but how are they doing the coffee i don't think it's a huge slice they're putting kind of a maybe a cube a square in an espresso cup but surely you just get a viennetta and pour coffee on it uh and that would have a you're not getting the whole lot i think they give you a little slice in a cup or in a bowl. Oh, is this not in a shop? Is this something that... Sorry. I am listening to what you're saying. What do you mean, darling?

Is this like in a restaurant or a cafe? It's been a long day. I'm going to do it again. My friend's local and little independent cafe in Salisbury. What did you think I was talking about? I zoned out on that bit. I was thinking about shopping tokens or something. Sorry.

But what was you thinking? That they're selling it? Yes. But it was like, you know, like a special edition. Viennetta. You're selling a Viennetta and a coffee to take home in your supermarket shopping. I thought. Do you know what?

Don't worry about it just leave it i've ruined it yeah it's absolutely terrible it's all right though you are tired you've been drilling holes for me all day love today's ep darling ah this is a lovely message this is about monday's ep with roe roe the mum guilt episode loved the ep darling i'm step-mum and I get mega mum guilt if we aren't doing something all the time as I want them to always enjoy coming to see their dad. With the ages of 14 and 8, it's hard to entertain on the same level, but I try my best, but I'm very hard on myself at times.

Can I also just say that I get such comfort just listening to you and whoever you have on i feel like i'm with friends having a lush catch-up from samantha so thank you samantha that's really really lovely so going on to the shopping which is i think why we're here and what's really important is i'm not sure who's won this battle i mean i wasn't even aware that it was a battle it's a battle what is it's massive mark i really don't um i don't know what you're talking about you go into a shop yes and you fill your shopping bag yep with the shopping yeah before you've paid for it yes okay i fill a shopping bag up in a trolley if I'm scanning and shopping.

Yes. Because I'm literally paying for it on the way around. Okay. Because I haven't got to take it back out of the bag. Right. When I get to the till, I scan and I pay for the shopping. I disagree with loading up a shopping bag. Okay.

And then having to take it all out to pay for it and then refill it. I don't understand it. And I did it last week, as I've said, and I felt like I was shoplifting. Yeah, but the thing is, I only do this if I'm going in to buy, well, no more than a bag's worth of items. You don't really do a trolley shop, do you, sweetheart? No. No.

So I only really do this if I'm going in to buy a few items. So it's not quite the same as going in to do, you know, your week shopping. Yes. I mean, I wouldn't do that. I would use, you know, obviously I'd... Well, you wouldn't be able to because you're not an octopus, are you? No, but I also would put all the goods into the trolley and have a selection of bags, I would imagine.

Correct. However, when you're going in to buy four or five items and you happen to have the bag you're going to put the goods in at the end anyway, why not put them in that bag? I get what you're going to put the goods in at the end anyway why not put them in that bag i get what you're saying i just don't think it's right louise from wakefield said i got a bollocking in home bargains for using my bag she said it's company policy to get a basket i'm more than happy to show them inside the bag to prove i'm not stealing anything i will probably carry on using my bag so louise is with

you what i find interesting on this particular subject of shopping is you're quite happy to as you've discussed before for it you know and i would never i never did this as a child wasn't allowed to but the whole sort of letting a opening a multi-pack and giving a child a part of a not particularly no only if they are having a complete meltdown and i need to finish the shop yeah yeah it doesn't come naturally to me i don't think it's right okay i know where you're going with it but no that's not really what what'm about. I mean, look at Lucy from New Zealand here. Hashtag stand with Mark. Hashtag bag shop.

Hi Nat and Mark, I'm with you. I've just gone to the supermarket for a few things, taken one bag and I've put everything in that bag as I go round. Then I go to the till and I put it all back in the bag. Totally with you on this, Mark. Hashtag bag shop. Hashtag stand with Mark. It's really good for knowing how heavy it is going to be for the rest of the journey home and stuff and how much space you've got, at least.

I think that's pretty good. Absolutely. But everything else feels wrong. Dawn from Southampton said, Hi Nat, talking about the supermarket shop. I'm in Marks and Spencer's every Saturday morning. Lovely. Doing the weekly shop.

I too move stock to get the latest dates. I stopped doing my online shopping when I had to start throwing away fresh food because it had no shelf life. Yes, Dawn. You take the crates off food because it had no shelf life. Yes, Dawn. You take the crates off. Did it only the other day. What was I buying? Lettuce.

Off came the round lettuces from the top. Two crates under. Lovely fresh ones. Have you ever done that? I did that exact thing today. Did you? What for? The celery. Yeah. Did you? What for? The celery.

Yeah. You know the interesting thing? Go on. Best before date of the items on the top was 20th of July. I thought, oh, I can do better than that. Put my hand underneath, pulled out a packet, 14th of July. Not stacked in order. Wow. you dub them in done did you dub in the staff for throwing it up well i wondered if uh you know people were worried about you promoting that practice oh it's my fault possibly i happened. I also noted, actually, that, and it might have been because of the particular store that I was in,

which has very small packing areas once you've paid for the goods. Tesco's? Nope. Aldi? Yes. And I would say 50% of the people in there were shopping with their branded Aldi bags and not baskets. Just saying. 50%?

Yeah. Right, okay. Started a movement. No, seriously. The people that weren't were people with trolleys. Okay. Yeah. This is an ad from BetterHelp Online Therapy.

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That's BetterHelp, H-E-L-P.com. Love you and Mark. Regarding his shopping bag thingy, if he's just using it instead of a basket before he gets to the till, fair enough. Thank you. What's the point of a basket in this case but he must get a few strange looks i mean would someone feel the need to watch him

merrily fill his shopping bag to see if he walks straight out but i don't see what the difference is but the basket's got all the holes so you can see exactly what's going in and it's clearly what you've picked up in the shop whereas what's in your bag could be anything it could be if you were loading it straight into a backpack or whatever yep there's a lot of confusion about what's what's yours versus what's just been picked up in the shop but so the thing is i'm using a you know like a a bag used regularly you know a bag for life thank you like a plastic one of a tote bag it's actually the like the freezer version i've got loads of those freezer ones you know like the tesco do the silver insulated yeah so so i use one of those you like a bag for life don't you i'm your bag for life so plastic i walk about that bag

i take the stuff out of it pay for all the items put the stuff back in the bag and walk out the shop i don't i don't really see i don't just see i don't really see it's a thing i don't really see the difference well let's have a little listen to what cara has to say hi nat it's cara here from norwich um couple of things absolutely loving the pod um it's the highlight of my week and second thing just finished listening to ep 20 with your lovely mark and i am 100% with him on the old m&s shopping bag um sorry that's just a really loud noisy dog um I actually put all of my shopping in my shopping bag in M&S I walk around M&S with my shopping in my bag I take my shopping in my bag to the till I unload it scan it put it back in the bag it's just I don't know

just seems so much easier than a basket thanks see you later okay bye i just think mark you're a gateway for criminals i think you're just normalizing criminal behavior making it easier for thieves you're assuming but i've still got with you no i'm absolutely with you 100 but the sort of you've got to walk past for checkout with the stuff in the bag yeah but people just don't get all the stuff back out the security aren't being paid to go through your bag completely and imagine having to go through everybody's bag i mean please zara zara are now doing an amazing thing because everything that you pick up in there now.

So my friend's husband, they'd bought a load of clothes for the children, but he had some hair bands in his hand. So they'd bought everything and he'd forgotten to pay for these hair bands. And as he walked out, the security guard went, oh, excuse me, sir. You've got some hair bands that you haven't paid for. So the shop knows every item that is in your hands.

Natalie. Yeah. It's just CCTV. No, no, no, no. Yes, it is. No. Yes, it is. No, it's technological cctv no no no yes it is no yes it is it's technological yes oh no because even the amazon fresh shops that are like all these ai power things are just cctv with people in other countries having to watch everything people are picking up the cctv thing i can assure you, when I went to college, loads of people

I went to college with did that as their part-time job. Right. They did. Okay. That's why there's a man... Just listen to Lauren now. Hi Nat, it's Lauren here from Chelmsford in Essex.

I've just listened to your Scraping the Barrel 3 pod and i am 100 with mark i do that i walk around the supermarket with my bag for life and i put my shopping in it and then i take it to the checkout pay for it and then put it back in the bag however i wouldn't do it somewhere like boots or super drug with higher price items like makeup. Because I think people just think of nicking stuff. But I 100% do do that. Loving the pod, Nat.

Really, really like to listen to Mark as well. I think he's awesome. And yeah, it's great stuff. I listen to it every week or twice a week and can't get enough of it. You take care. Bye. Why wouldn't you do it in boots what's the difference they've got security tags on the very expensive stuff as well

yeah but as a checkout yes it's not quite the same it's not like a oh do you know i'm amazed you're even talking about it i can't believe what how has this sparked a lot of conversation well no there may be yeah a lot let's listen to um trying to find one that is okay for me but there isn't any funny that hello it's jemma here again i used to work in retail and it was horrendous in a supermarket, but that's besides the point. My opinion about shopping is that anybody who doesn't work Monday to Friday all day long should be banned from going into a supermarket on a Saturday and Sunday. Anyone. It's not fair. It's just not fair on the people who work and have to go on those days to be stuck in a queue behind goodness knows how many people who

could have gone in the week also i do pack my shopping in my bag as i go around sorry thank you very much for your message so a hundred percent so far yeah so far but let's dig down a little bit on that because i love that comment and i really enjoyed that message i am absolutely with her when people are going shopping at really busy times when they're off a week so for instance this is not being rude but on a saturday morning is there any need for a retired couple to be in the shops it depends what they're doing monday to friday i would say i'm saying they're retired yeah and i think they could probably squeeze in an hour when the shops are quieter maybe but a lot of the retired people i know are probably busier than when they worked so and they might be looking after their this for you got to be careful here because they could be looking after their kids children yes their

grandchildren perhaps i mean you'd be a bit crazy to elect to shop on a Saturday, the classic busy supermarket day. But the people, that's what I'm saying. The reason it's a busy supermarket day. To be making that choice to go on a Saturday. You think they can't go at any other time? They would 100%, just the same as when you and I are off on a weekday. We're going to go shopping on a weekday.

Do you know what I think? I think people are reveling it. I think people go, shopping now. And they like the busyness. They like the chaos of it. Maybe. You know like I am at Christmas, the way I am at Christmas.

I'm not going to go into that now because I'm not doing that. into that now because we can't I'm not doing that no but you know how I revel in the busyness of it all I think there are people like that all year round maybe yeah I mean it's yeah maybe I don't think there's loads and loads of people I don't know why you take your family shopping you see family shopping so a mum a dad and three children yeah i see that on a regular basis yes i don't i would rather run around the shop naked for all to see then go shopping with me, you, Joni and Eliza to, say, Lidl. That's been quite a few times we've done that.

No, we haven't. Not to Lidl. But we've definitely all been shopping together. No, we haven't. You're talking absolute nonsense. Okay. When was the last time we all went shopping together? Yeah.

As a family doing a food shop, family a weekly food shop i don't know no there won't be one there won't be one because i go out on my own thank you no one else um do you remember when you were younger did you go shopping as a family for a family day out occasionally i think it was everyone yeah yeah often it was just mum and me and my sisters yeah i think we've been out yeah both parents and all the kids all of us which is yeah i can't imagine how intense that is but there's enough noise and sounds and things going on that we're just mesmerised by it all. It doesn't really matter what's going on in the trolley, shopping-wise. I used to go shopping with my mum. I remember going shopping with my mum as a little girl.

The other thing I remember with great fond memory is on a Saturday we'd always end up in somewhere like Magnet or B&Q and I would take great joy in playing in the kitchens and the bathrooms as if they were my own. And what I don't understand

is why we would be in a b&q or a magnet on a frequent basis i'm talking twice in a month i can get b&q because you know they sell all the sort of diy stuff but magnet is just like fitted kitchens isn't it yeah there'd be a lot of fitted kitchen shops a lot of fitted bathroom shops and we used to spend quite a lot of time in them rather than like play zone or something just leave you running around there yeah no i never went to a play zone no as a child that is quite a strange thing my mum did like to decorate a lot things got changed over quite a lot you know like wallpaper was on the wall. A different wallpaper would be on the wall every, I don't know,

a year to 18 months. But was she using it as childcare to just, like, here, run around a fake kitchen? I think it was probably just to get out for a bit, yeah, maybe. And they felt comfortable there. Yeah. We never went anywhere which was child-friendly. I never went to a cinema with my mum.

A park? Not really, no. No. Not to a park, no. Not really. Get in this fake fridge and stay there for a bit. Off you go. Yeah, I just used to...

That's why I like the home, I think, because I spent a lot of time looking around kitchens and bathrooms yeah they would have loved an ikea wouldn't they oh what they would have loved it now that's a day out might have been a little i don't think my dad would have got on with a queuing system though he would have been annoyed about that i don't think and my mum they wouldn't have had the patience for that no having to go a certain way because someone's telling them to it would have been a nightmare now ikea is a shop yeah where you do see families walking around yes you do a lot but you can have lunch there they do good meatballs for a cheap price they do they kind of do i get that and there's stuff for the kids to

look at it's quite you know kid bed kiddie bedrooms and there's stuff for the kids to look at. There's quite, you know, kiddie bedrooms. And there's, you know, quite a lot of stuff. There's so much for everybody. I think that is quite a fun experience. Should we do that with the kids? Do you want to do that? Ikea? No.

I would rather. I think the girls would love Ikea for a day out. They'd really love it. Joanie would be picking up different things for her bedroom. Eliza would love ikea for a day out they'd really love it joanie would be picking up different things for her bedroom eliza would love it yes maybe well there you go that's what one of the days in the summer holiday sorted i think we should do that i think i'd really enjoy it yep lovely look forward to that How was Wimbledon, Mark? It was wet. The court I work on has a roof,

so we continue to cover tennis when it's raining, but it obviously then causes the championship to have a bit of a backlog of matches that need to be played. So, yeah, it was busy, but it went pretty quickly, actually. It did go quick. It was, yeah, no, it was busy, but it went pretty quickly, actually. It did go quick. It was, yeah, no, it was good. It was a nice job. We enjoyed spotting him on the telly. Ah.

We play Where's Marky, point at the telly, see where he is. Only when it's a boring match, obviously. And they're showing the camera angles of other camera angles. Yes, quite. No, but it was lovely. boring match obviously and they're showing the camera angles of other camera angles yes quite no but it was lovely i always i'm really proud of you when you do that job i know it's a hard slog but i always think he's on center court for two weeks people are paying five ten grand to go and watch that and you're doing it willy-nilly well i'm very fortunate i'm being paid to be there that's it yeah i would say i was doing it willy-nilly well i'm very fortunate i'm being paid to be there that's it yeah i would

would say i was doing it willy-nilly just just for the fun of it it's just turned up for the crack oh it's yeah it is it's it's um yeah it's great oh well that's that then any fun uh celebrity spotting you did well there's a lot of people that come and watch on that court yeah there was uh did we see pink yes oh nice yeah what did pink look like uh well she wasn't pink no no no i did have to before when i knew she was going to be there i did have a google just to make sure it was the person I was thinking of. And it was. Yeah.

But yeah, she was there. Who else? Did she seem happy? Well, yes. Yeah? Yeah, I mean, she didn't. No, just any gossip? Did you see any arguments or anything like that?

No. No. No. Tom Cruise? Yeah. Cliff? No. Tom Cruise. Yeah. Cliff Richard is there most of the time. Yes. Trevor McDonald's there pretty much every day.

Is he? Yeah, he's always there. He's got his own little seat. Does he really? Yeah, he's there all the time. Always there. Always sits in the same place. Good old Trevor.

Loves tennis. Yeah. You said Dustin Hoffman was there. Dustinffman is there um who else was there who was the guy that i mentioned who was will ferrell will ferrell was there oh wow that's a biggie isn't it elf biggie yeah and and funny thing was i don't think a shot of him went out i could see him from where I was. He's quite a tall fellow, isn't he? Thought he was sat down.

No, but he's quite a large fellow. Yeah, him and his wife were there. Who else did we see? I mean, the Royal Box each day. Of course. There's a good selection. I mean, the people I've mentioned weren't in the Royal Box each day. Of course. There's a good selection. I mean, the people I've mentioned weren't in the Royal Box. But yeah,

that was... Lovely, isn't it, for a bit of star spotting. I like looking at all the outfits. I like watching what everyone's wearing. It's quite a fashionista's paradise. White, usually, is quite popular. White stripes. Yeah, white, a tennis racket,

maybe a headband and a cap. You're thinking about just the ones on the pitch. Great. Grass? What are they? Is it a pitch? Court!

That's close enough. It's made of grass. Yeah. Talking of pitches, that was a shame, wasn't it? Bit of a letdown, wasn't it,

at the weekend? What was that? England losing. wasn't it? Bit of a letdown, wasn't it, at the weekend? What was that? England losing. Losing what? The Euros. And a football. A football. They lost in the end.

Shut up. I know you're not into it, but you don't have to play it that badly. Well, I didn't play it as badly as they did. They played really well, actually. They did very well. Not well enough. Not well enough badly as I did they played really well actually they did very well not well enough not well enough but they did well

we didn't embarrass ourselves we got a goal in second best second best out of all of the Euro teams really good

I think Gareth's done a lovely job yeah I'd quite like to get Southgate on here for a chat yeah I'd really like yeah you've met him you've always said that he was a nice man I'd love to get southgate on here for a chat yeah i'd really like yeah you've met

him you've always said that he was a nice man i'd love to get him on here yeah let's see what you can do emma what are you gonna do ask him about how he shops possibly yeah i might talk to him about queuing how much would he pay for a viennetta if his socks are paired up yeah has he got has he got a trolley? I think he'd really like the chat. I think he'd find it very refreshing than sitting here talking about why Foden didn't come off at this point and how comes Kane's there.

I reckon I could say, come and sit down here, Gareth. I'll make you a nice cup of tea and we'll put the world to rights just about the mundane things in life. And I think he'd love it. How are you going to go about getting him on well i've said it now i've put it out there hopefully someone can get this message to gareth

that i'd like a chat that's it isn't it really simples i think he's a great guy and i think um if you look back at the stats of when England have won, obviously only once, but when they've got into these different tournaments, World Cup, Euros, and you see his form and where he's got England too, the guy's an icon. Yeah, he has done exceptionally well.

Exceptionally well. But there you go. That's over with now. Tennis is over. Football's over. Paralympics is coming up which is going to be super exciting. And the Olympics.

And the Olympics. It's going to be really good. Do you watch the Olympics much? I like watching the gymnastics. I like the floor work and the bars and stuff and I think Joni's really going to enjoy

watching that this year. I really like is it the ice skating? No? Is it ice skating in the Olympics? I think ice skating tends to be more Winter Olympics. Oh, fine. But I could be wrong. No, no, you're probably right.

Yeah, a bit of it, the track running. But out of everything, I like the Olympics. Curling? The gymnastics. Curling, not really for me. No, I quite like curling. Do you? Yeah, I find it strangely infectious.

Right. To sort of watch. Remember it used to be on a Sunday? It used to quite often be on Sundays. Anyway. Yeah, okay i'll do let's see what martin had to say about the shopping hi natalie martin again from uh worcester um i just wanted to reply uh i'll leave you a voice note about mark using his shopping bag to put stuff in on the way around um mark you can you can you can't do that

absolute nutcase what are you thinking lovely martin well martin i can assure you i can do that because i've managed it for the last two or three years martin said you're an absolute nutcase. I know. Well, that told me. Thanks, Martin. And I love hearing from males. Really nice to hear a bloke on here. I'm going to go into my favourite message that I've had for quite a substantial amount of time. We were having a little chat, Debbie and linda and i saying that we might do a menopause episode one of my favorite messages that i've ever received this is tony listen to this

hello net tony here i'm a black cabbie from london uh love your pod i said it's a bit of a guilty pleasure for me i've got to be honest I feel like I should have been listening I feel like I'm sort of earwigging women's conversations and I should be listening but as I said it's like a guilty pressure and I can't stop listening

well anyway I hear you're going to do an app on the menopause and I actually can't wait for this because I think my old woman has been having me over for the last few years I'm sure of it she blames everything on the menopause like she's got to 50 and she thinks that's it oh I've got an excuse now so she'll forget to bring me something back or or herself something back from shopping or what she's supposed to get and it's always the same oh I forgot it's the menopause brain freeze and I said no you just like forget you're supposed to get and it's always the same oh i forgot it's the menopause brain freeze

and i said no you just like forget you're not thinking are you all right concentrate and she said no it's the menopause so you got that and then there's other times she'll be nice and she might bring me a treat home from the shops might bring me a cake home or something just something like that be nice to me and i'll sit down five minutes later not a word spoken and she'll be staring at me going who you fucking looking at right and i ain't done a thing and i'll sit down, five minutes later, not a word spoken, and she'll be staring at me, going, who are you fucking looking at? And I ain't done a thing. And I'll say it, I said, I ain't done nothing.

But she just turns like that. And the worst of all is the body temperature. Yes, Tony, it is. It could be middle of February, minus 10 degrees outside. I'll go to get in bed. She's got both bedroom windows open, a fan next to the bed bed six inches from her face, on full blast. I'm struggling to get in the bed because of the jeep for the fan and not a stitch of clothing on with her. And she might just be under a sheet or whatever.

I'm getting dressed to get in bed because I'm so cold and shivering. So I'm putting pyjamas on and socks over them as well. And yet I get in and she's about 4,000 degrees centigrade. Like we're not having nothing on and the windows open and all that. And so I'm under the covers for five minutes and then I'm sweating. So I'm then having to get in on the top of the bed and then I'm freezing again honestly I'm not sure if she's winding me up or not but honestly it's so hard I can't wait till she's come through the other side of it it drives me mad so I'm looking forward to

listening to the app and uh and see if she's winding me up or not uh crack on with the pod really enjoying it see you later Nat One more thing I'm sorry for the long message I know you only want it to be a minute But I couldn't fit it in, thanks Right Tony I played your message which was two and a half minutes Which I wouldn't usually do, you know why?

Because your poor wife Sounds like she's having an extremely Bad menopause And you definitely Are coming on here And I'm going to extremely bad menopause. And you definitely are coming on here. And I'm going to get a menopause expert on. And you are going to try and understand what it is like for a woman to go through it. Because the things that you have just said are the three, the biggest things for women in that time. Memory loss, hot flushes.

And what was everyone? Mood swings. Good job, and experts coming on. That's all I'm going to say. Thank goodness for the experts. It's a perimenopause. I can't remember, can I?

No. Mood swings. So, Tony, thank you for your message. It made me me laugh but you are going to come on and you are going to be sympathetic to your wife she's not making it up i promise you yeah what would you be doing just for the fun of it just to wind you up no i mean how has she got control of her own body temperature as a that's quite impressive.

It's almost sort of magic circle territory. Yeah. That sort of ability. Absolutely. Consciously. I mean, as a wind-up, that's not bad, is it? Do you know, when the monopause wasn't spoken about as much as it is now, and people are learning about it more,

and it's much more of an open subject, I remember my mum when I was 10, because my mum had me at 44 so she would have been about 54 and i remember her bedroom being so cold she had a balcony and all the doors would be open no matter what weather and i also remember her stripping her bed every morning and she used to sweat a lot in the night but nothing was ever said about it and I used to think that's weird

why is it always freezing cold in there and why is she stripping the bed every day and I can remember her being so hot in like a nightie

and I remember you know now you look back and go oh you must have had a really bad time so it is it's a lovely

good idea Tony and absolutely I'm going to definitely do one about the menopause that'll be with linnie and debs i think because they have the knowledge um but we'll get on to that and we might even give you a little tinkle and get your wife on see what she has to say about your comments does your wife know that you're messaging me and listening to the pod or is it so much of a guilty pleasure

that no one knows you're doing it that's what i want to know there's an interesting thing with cab drivers yes and yourself because you've always said to me a bit like what we were talking about earlier in the episode yeah what people regularly say to you i remember you telling me oh it's brilliant go on so whenever i get in a cab most of the time not as honest as tony there saying his guilty pleasure you'd get in they'd look at the back up at their mirror they'd say you all right love oh yeah you're in that he sters. I don't watch it, but the wife does. Can't stand it. And then they would reel off

the storylines that are happening, which cast they like, who they should get rid of, who should die, don't think that one should be getting married, and they know more about it than me. And apparently they don't watch it, but their wife does. Does that still happen now?

I suppose you don't get black cabs as often, actually. We got a black cab on Saturday, actually, funnily enough. And it was just a lovely guy who said, Oh, lovely, nice to have you in the cab. Just a nice one. But it doesn't happen as often. But then I don't think a lot of people are watching television as much. So, there you go.

Well, no, that'll be really nice. We're doing the menopause episode soon. Do you know, I'm really excited, actually, for the weeks coming up. I think it's going to be really really lovely we've got a david and joe from chatterbix in the bank not sure when that one's going to come out but it's an absolute corker i wish i could have spoken to them i really would like to have a chat with them both i'm sure you can soon well i'd like to arrange that. Well, we talk about you all the time, the three of us.

Yeah, not really. We do. You know, we have a good old chat about all the things you do, how handy you are. I think that's being polite, actually. Because I think you might mention me and then they sort of feel the need to... They are blown away with how much you get up to

well i sincerely hope that joe makes another appearance on a series i'm working on next year hopefully fingers crossed because it'd be lovely to have a chat with him what was that what series did you do he did a episode of not going out that's right in the coffee shop yes yeah he was great in that we have mentioned that previously yes yes we have oh yeah that'll be lovely if he goes back was it a character that could return uh i can't remember if it was kind of a one-off thing it was it was really it was kind of a one off thing it was really it was kind of pivotal to that episode you never know no you never know

what I'd like is Lee Mack to write me a little part what you're not going out? yes Lee don't do that please I love the way that we think Lee Mack's listening to it well just in case just in case but it'd be lovely I'd love to

go over there and do that live sitcom studio sitcom be great I've only ever done a scene of that and that was in Catherine Tate and I really loved it I loved rehearsing and I loved doing it was great fun I wonder who you would have worked with that I know then. I'm trying to think who, uh, well, you would have recognized and known most of the crew, I'd imagine, in that era.

I can't really remember. I was so nervous. I just remember focusing on what I was doing and then going home quickly. That was really good fun. Priorities. Yeah. I'm going forward. Yeah,

I know. I'm always nice to the crew. You know I am. Well, yeah, I can vouch for that. Treated you well, haven't I? Yeah, I guess so. No, on a serious note, though, the crew are more my friends than anyone else. I think that's very much Wendy's influence on you.

Perhaps. I think you've got that maybe not but i'm saying what you you you being nice everyone is disingenuous because that isn't the case at all no you obviously are you know you i mean you're very savvy when it comes to the technicalities of of your line of work? Well, I am. I'm very, very interested in every part of it and how it goes together. Yeah. And I think also once you've worked somewhere for 30 years, well, give and take,

I just like to keep myself occupied, which also is not always a good thing because you're actually getting involved in someone else's job quite a lot of the time. I'm very nosy, and I do get involved in things I probably shouldn't. Yeah, but I think that's with an air of trying to be helpful. It is, but at the same time, you should really let people get on with their own jobs.

No one steps in and does my lines, do they? Well, if you forget them, the first AD does. That's true, yeah. Not quite the same thing, but yeah, I know what you mean. But no, it's very good for you to have a... I've got a keen interest in every department. You have. We have very keen interest in directors.

I can just imagine now now anyone listening to this who you work with yeah sort of rolling their eyes they will oh yeah hasn't she just yeah

it's true yeah oh yeah she knows she knows how to clip this mic on and put the pack in the right place well I do I always do that myself

okay I can't have all them sound men standing around me driving me mad no well with the exception of Marco and Dave Okay. I can't have all them sound men standing around me driving me mad. No. I don't miss it. Well. With the exception of Marco.

And Dave. And Dave. And Callum. Yeah. Oh, I'm going to be told off now by someone. Well, there's quite a long list of people you've not just mentioned on first name terms who work in that department. Yeah, I know. Very important department, that. It's the one that always gets forgotten about in my eyes,

the sound department. Why's that? I just feel that lighting have their time, cameras have their time, and the boom guys, the ops, just get on with it. I would agree. I never hear them moaning no

they never say could you come and just stand there I want to see where the boom goes they just get on with it don't they they do they do I mean

occasionally there's a bit of fiddling around that goes on yes when I've done what 20 years in TV 17 of them waiting for sound that's a terrible thing to say he's really laughing here by the way double up

he's doubled up bent over I'm bent over because it was a port don't start did you hear what that just sounded like that was terrible it was like a balloon Did you hear what that just sounded like? That was terrible.

It's like a balloon. It's just a very poor delivery of what should have been quite a good joke. I can't help but laugh if you say you bent over. Sorry. All right. We found your level. No, it's lovely. i love chatting about work and as i say i do love filming different sets different things you know i feel like we're very very lucky in our careers you know i couldn't imagine going to an office the same office every day and seeing the same people and i'm not saying that's bad i just can't

imagine doing that don't you think we're very lucky very much so and i think that it's very easy to become complacent and realize that you're not actually in quite an unusual circumstance or position or meeting people or seeing people you know yeah there's been interestingly actually at when we did the Wimbledon final me and um a colleague who I've known a very long time I met him first when I was at college he worked for BBC outside broadcasts and it's brilliant because it's such a nice thing now that I work with him professionally yeah yeah and funnily enough we were doing we were sharing the same camera on on Sunday for the Wimbledon final and which is really special for me because I think it's brilliant it's like somebody who's maybe only 10 years ahead of me or thereabouts

but when I was wanting to do that job he was doing it that's right and someone to look up to and aspire to absolutely yeah and and obviously well now we work together quite often which is great and we had a really nice chat actually before we started work and we were talking about all sorts of little bits and pieces you know little stories of things and it's when you have those conversations you realize actually wow you know i actually i saw that and there's right there's so many that especially with royalty on the royal events i do and we were discussing when um i did an event a few years ago and uh i was doing a camera which basically was pointing at the royal family in in this sort of

royal box and just getting to see these little moments, these little reactions, much of it didn't go on the telly. No, that's right. But you're there watching it all day. And I'm sitting there watching and you can't help but almost lip read what's being said. It's like big brother with the Royals.

It's quite amazing really. But yeah, there are very few people that are in those positions or get to go to the places you might get to go to. That's right. Absolutely. Very much so. Especially Sutton's Centre Court for the final. What a match that was.

That was excellent. Fantastic. But yeah, it's a very... No, we are. We're very lucky. Privileged position. We're very blessed. Very, very blessed.

Well, I hope you've really enjoyed this episode, guys. It's been lovely having a chat. Mark won. We'll have to all start just taking our shopping. In fact, why don't they just throw the baskets away? Get rid of all the shopping baskets and just say, bring a bag in. And if you haven't got a bag, use your arms. Maybe they should do that in future.

When you say I won, it wasn't quite a competition was it it wasn't no but the listeners turn it into one oh it's very nice to be acknowledged well slightly overwhelmed once again well there you go how lovely have a wonderful weekend enjoy the sunshine if there is any and i will speak to you on Monday. You take care of yourselves. Be lucky. Hi, this is Chris McCausland. And this is Diane Boswell.

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