Life with Nat - EP268: Nat's Nieces #61 - getting the pumpkins out

Episode Date: September 30, 2026

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I must just say that I also thought that, apart from EastEnders, Pam St. Clemens, was dead. And I was like, what the flip? Yeah, hilarious. And I think Chico's understandable because that was a thing, wasn't it? But yeah, that's so funny. I also thought she was dead. So there you go.

You're not on your eye. The Mandela Effect is a psychological phenomenon, easy for you to say. Is that right? Phenomenon. Phenomenal. Something like a phenomenon. Where a large group of people collected... Oh, wow.

I'm doing a Natalie. A large group of people collectively share a false memory about a specific event, detail or fact. So the origin of the term coined in 2009. To do with Nelson Mandela Dying in prison. I was assuming it was about... Nelson Mandela. And not Pat Butcher.

No. Nor Chico. However, some more facts. Pamela Ann Clements, born 11th of May, 1942. Paul, Torrean, like me, old Pam.

I know. Present. She's, everyone, she's still, well, she is still well. What does this mean, though, on Wikipedia? Years active, 1972 to present. I would say he's working.

Oh, fine. Thank you. I was like. So the amounts of people... We had some crackers. We really did. It's mad, didn't it? Well, I can see why people would make that assumption.

Yeah. But why? No, but why? It's just, I find that incredible that so many people have had the same thought. Did she die in his tenders? Yes. Yeah. And I do think...

She came back as a ghost. The ghost, and I think that's what's thrown me. Yes. She did come back as... Well, I had to, as I said to you the other day, I had to Google with Ricky Tomlinson was still alive. Just because I was like, I'm really into watching. I've watched it before but I'm obsessed with going to bed watching Royal Family.

Not friends anymore, you'll be pleased to know. You've ditched it. And I thought, surely I haven't missed his death because that's, that's heartbreaking, but he's still alive. 87 Saturday, Saturday, actually, I'll let you know. Saturday, the year 26th. That's all we're going to do now is Google and people are still alive. Fantastic. Amanda said, Ro Ro Ro, I also thought Pat had died.

Why is that? So there you go Amanda. Pat did die. No, but she means. Well, but this is where we're... Yeah. And other people did think that it was like AI generated imagery.

Talking of AI generated imagery, Julie sent us a picture from Malta of a very, very large boat with Roro on the side. Oh, so good. And it isn't AI generated. I was going to say, what's that got to do with AI? No, just trying to go into a little smooth link

that didn't really work. Well, speaking of AI, I posted a photo on holiday, and it said AI content. Have you put a filter on it or something? Nope, hadn't touched it. And then I've then post done a post, so that was a story, and then I did a post yesterday with like 18 photos. And it says, AI content. I haven't done anything AI. Well, that's really annoying.

Unless it's because I've added a song. I've never seen that before. No pictures have been AI. Like they're just from my camera. I haven't touched it. else went to Blackpool. Yes. All the pictures.

Everything she's done. She's pretended. But I'm fuming because people probably look at that. I think that's AI. I haven't done anything. That's annoying. It's not even like the caption. It just says where we went.

Isn't that weird when you think about it? Maybe it looks so beautiful. The sea or whatever. They think it's AI. You can't just do that. They think it's AI or if it's generated, you never know. I don't know what's happened. Maybe we should AI it, find out.

Oh, yeah. I'm not going to talk too much about this because I actually don't know the facts because I'm trying to listen to the pod but I've listened to it in bed obviously I fall asleep but there's a certain podcast that I listen to and it's got all these AI men on it. They're not they're real people but they're all the people that do all the AI jobs. Right.

And like some people say it's going to end the world. No, it's been a big thing in the news last week, really huge and the King had everybody up to Scotland to talk about it. Oh good, I'm glad someone. The problem with the king having all of the sort of head of AI, if you like, up there, there was apparently no one from China, no one from America. So it was a bit pointless, apparently. These guys are America.

Well, no, these guys I think are, there is everyone who's involved. Well, my friend saw a singer. But I seriously, 10 years, we could be finished. What do you mean finished? There was a guy on the radio who works in technology. And it was on LBC, of course. and he works in it and the way he described it was

there was something that happened recently where the AI bots began to talk to each other and they did something on their own within their own power that the people who were running it didn't stop. Wow. So what he said was

if that were to continue they'd be ganging up on us. Then what that would happen. Tony said it the other night and funnily enough we put a call out for an AI episode and me and Tony's next episode it's all going to be about AI so we're going to go deep into it but it is like

the Terminator now I've not seen the terminated film on on Shoresenegas, which again but it is exactly that and Tony thinks it's really relevant he said we should actually watch that film now but this guy was saying imagine if all of the government people who are in charge said this is

too much we need to blow up all the system they would then be ahead of you to stop them using the technology to blow up the system Because it's, what do they call it? Sorry, I'm terrible. But it's like now they're getting AI to train AI. It's like a super, it's insane.

And also AI, it's got no caring. There's no emotion. So it's, yeah, I mean, that's scary. It is quite scary. And that actually happened? I feel, I'm not sure. In terms of, I think, what people worry about, it should be higher on the list than it is.

But what do you do? I listen to these things. You worry, what can you do? You can't really do anything, apart from not use it. But it's gone too far now, really. No, but it's not when you say use it. I think actually using something like Chat GPT or Gemini, in the grand scheme of things, it's not that big of a deal

with what you're talking about. No, absolutely. I agree with you. Because why couldn't it just stop somewhere? Well, it doesn't, does it? That's the problem. There's too many powerful people earning too much money out of it, and that's the problem.

But the king actually helped. a big thing to say, we need to use this to our advantage. Anyway, save this with Tonyx. This is boring. Oh, fair enough. No, it was interesting, though. This guy said, though, if someone paid you a billion pounds, but you could press one of these nine buttons and it would just blow up all your fact, like, everyone, would you do it?

Basically, that's what they're doing. Just for money, they are risking potentially the lives. Well, there's no different to social media. And what people are saying is what social media have done to teenagers of today is what? AI is about a billion times worse because people now have AI bots as friends, girlfriends, they're only talking to their AI bot. It's crazy stuff. And they're still letting that happen. Well, yeah. But they've let social media happen for a very long time. So it is very deep. Oh, we're doomed. Well, my friend was buzzing. She said, I found this thing on Instagram. He's amazing.

She was like, I love him. And then where she's been liking his videos, someone's then messaged her to say, just to let you know this isn't a real person. This AI. Isn't that crazy? What's he doing? What does she love? Just his singing, loves his music. I mean, she showed me. I've got the video, I'll show you.

If she hadn't have said he's AI, I would absolutely have said he was a real person. And there you go, it's going to do people out of so much. It's crazy. But yeah, it did make me laugh. But there's even men, sorry, we've all stopped talking about this, or not just men, but what I've read is there's men. Thanks for letting me know I've got more sugar around my chops from that hair.

Cruffing. Her was loads of it. Everywhere. Everywhere. No, I couldn't see it. I had a little bite. Only good. Making AI women on like only fans.

So even women are going to lose, we're losing those jobs because there's guys just making AI women. It's mad. Yeah, I mean, it's terrible. Talking of the news, I mean, we've been very intellectual today, aren't we? Can we just talk about my pal Danny Dyer? Oh, it's a cracker. Oh, I've not seen it. Okay, I'm going to show you it.

Just talk me through your message for the prime minister. about what you think? I don't know the prime minister is, mate, do you? Andy Burr. Yeah, no, but who is he? I don't understand. Anyone vote for him? Because I didn't vote for him.

So, I think we've had successive, um, successive prime ministers that are, end off, put that on the fucking BBC. No. He went in. So who was interviewing him? I'm not too sure. I know.

We're always, yeah. This happened. And, uh, listen, he has his, he has his faults, how, Danny, whatever. He can say what he likes. Good luck to him, whatever. But then what I've found very funny is that our PM, Andy Burnham, has gone back. Has been asked, what do you think of Danny Dyer's comments?

And he says, I'm not really sure who that is. Is it a West Ham's father-in-law? West Ham's player's father-in-law. No. A little bit of bans going on. Yeah, I like that. Which I did quite like. Right, so he's obviously he knows who he is.

Very good. Very clever. But I did find that quite funny and I wonder if the feud will continue. Oh, how funny. I was watching his caravan thing last night. Oh, was you? I won't talk about rivals again.

No, I don't. He's always outspoken about politics of Dyer, isn't they? Yeah. I like it. I love him. Great. He's a great guy. So what you want to say?

Talking of feuds. The Oasis documentary. True. Everywhere I look, it's only got about three stars, but I think if you are a true fan, I urge people to go and see it. Mark couldn't quite... I wouldn't quite believe me. I was sobbing. He's like, what are you doing?

I was sobbing. She's embarrassing. I couldn't stop. You know, when the lights come up. What is it? What's the difference to the Netflix one? Well, do you know what? I haven't seen the Netflix one, which is terrible.

I know she was going to say. I haven't. And I know. She's gone to the cinema. She's just like, number one fan. I've not even seen this thing I've advertised, though. It's what I don't really get. It's like you only know if you're like a real third.

No, it's, it's... I can't explain it. She only knows because Jamie Balfwick Rowland is like, it's unreal. You need to go and see it. Oh, I saw everyone going to the premiere of it. No, you didn't get invited. No, which I found really upsetting. We were talking about FOMO last week.

Oh, there we go. That is the first thing that I've seen with all these assholes, was in the front of, oh, this is Britain. I thought, what is going? You could have built your... Why are they there? They don't like them. It really did.

It wound me up actually. It wound me up. It didn't get involved. You've been proper mugged off there. But no, it was really good. And it's quite emotional. What is it? What is your premise?

It's just the beginning, when they're rehearsing for the big tour last year. Oh, it's the reason. And they're all in the room. And it's just Britain. And they're waiting for Liam to turn up. many companies. Oh, nice. And you see their relationship as brothers grow.

And then their kids don't know each other and they meet and they all get on. It's just quite emotional. So they are actually friends now? Yeah. Well, that's lovely. Yeah. Very nice. For all the hundreds of thousands have helped.

Millions, yeah. But no, it's good. Well, you should watch the Netflix one. I'm going to. She felt that emotional. As I flicked through my book the other night after watching it, I thought, I still haven't watch the Netflix one, so it's on my list to do very soon. Nice.

Very nice. That was very good, yeah. I've done. You went to the cinema, geez. I know. A little date night. Late, date day. Oh, date day. Gross. You're such, that's a fucking ick if there was one. Do you know what? I thought of an ick the other day. Oh, my God. Money and daddy, date night. Mom, mom and dad.

Mom. Who says mom? People say, Mom and dad. No, not Americans. No, they don't. I've seen it a couple of times. It's crazy stuff. Mom.

What was the Hick the other day? Went to the Sherlock Holmes Museum. Yeah, you're a geek. I mean, I didn't. Sorry, we were going to do that. No, we went to the Charles Dickens Museum. And then we went to... Sounds fucking reverting.

It was actually riveting to go in and you thought he sat here. This desk wrote Oliver Twist. My mind was blown. My mind was blown. All the kitchens, that was absolutely fantastic. I thought you didn't like seeing those sorts of things. What do you mean?

Oh, you're not interested in going to, I don't know, America and seeing shit. That's why you're interested in seeing it? That's different. Why? It's up the road in Bloomsbury. Get the tube there. Crackard? Yeah, so it's only because you can't be bothered to travel.

That was great. Really good. Went into the British Library. Oh, saw the Magna Carta. We were to see. Where's so? Sorry, where is the British Library? Right next to Kings Cross Station.

Yeah, we went there. This was a good one. And he said, Amelia, Amelia, really wants to go to. a big library in London. I said, okay, lovely, we'll all go. We get there, there's no fucking kids' books. They have no children's books. I did not know that?

Yeah. Wow. We're like, perfect. You also need to go and sign in and you need ID to get a reading thing so you can actually go into the libraries and read, which I didn't know. I mean, it all sounds very complicated.

But, yeah, I think when you walk around London, you forget how lucky we are, the things we've got to do, to see. I think it's actually great that we still have libraries. So do I. It's nice, really. Like, everywhere you go, there is a library in the town. Well, around here.

Thank God. It's good, really, isn't it? We won't belong. What do you mean, thank God. When do you visit the local library? I used to with the children often. I used to do all the reading challenges in the six-week holidays. Go up there, you collect your stamps when you've read your book.

Libraries are great. When you've got smaller children, libraries are excellent. Yeah, I used to take them, like you went to the, Rime time. But even sometimes just going in there now like just for James to to smash all the books up

and pull every book up off the shelf and he's not doing it at home. Smash them all up not read one single book even though he loves a book. Hell, you're heck, you just take that in. Wow.

Oh, I didn't see it from the same girl you've got a fucking get him right on my nerves. No, because he does love a book so it's nice to just go in there if we're wearing where and we just pop in there for 20 minutes although every time I want to go, it's close.

Is it nice in there? Yeah, it's cute. It's a new one, isn't it? I know. It's a new. It's a little. But I haven't got a card and all that shit because I know I'd forget to bring them back. I'd lose them, break. It's just not worth it. Fair enough.

It's very good for the summer challenges for your children's age group. Yeah, that is a good idea. And you walk up there, and then you get a little lollipop at the end, and it's a little challenge and you do the stamps. Just keeps them a little bit... A little bit involved. I don't agree with lollipops. Well, I don't really particularly like them,

but why don't you agree with them because of the choking hazard? They're awful. James is never having a lollipower. I understand. I do, but if they were that bad, they wouldn't do this. They are that bad. They shouldn't. What do you mean?

That's what a stupid thing to say? What do you mean? Surely. Some of the food we eat the shit that's in it. Oh, we shouldn't do that. No, I know, but you don't go, oh, you know, he died. That's because he ate too many. But if you actually saw paediatricians and stuff, all that jazz, they would say, do not give your children a lollipet.

Let me know now. No, well, come on. I'm saying it's got to be a threshold, isn't there? It's like we're talking about roads. There's got to be an X amount deceased before you can put a hump in the road. Yes, and also, I thought you were going to start talking about roundabouts then. It's just really bad. No, I agree.

No, it is bad. But that's like saying we can't have grapes anymore. You can cut them in half. True. And they're healthy. They can be cut. They can be cut. The thing is, that's the thing.

You can't cut it. And it is literally like the same size that could just completely block. Well, I've been very fortunate because my kids don't eat sweets. So I've never had the issue. But usually kids have, you know, the round ones that are flat? Yes. What's happened to them? They're still knocking about.

Well, they're safe. Like in the sort of clear thing. Chapper, chapper, chapper, chapper. No, they're bad. Yeah, they're bad. They're dangerous. If it was like a little drumstick or something, you know, that. The long whistle ones, they could go right down, couldn't they?

So what's the facts? There are no statistics. There we go. Well, it doesn't matter. I will not be letting him have a lollipop. No, I agree with you is older. I won't. I've got friends that they've never.

I've got friends. That don't allow their kids to have lollipops. Really? But it is mad because you know that you go to a restaurant? They're like, have a lollipot. It's a bit like, because then you've got to say no. And then they've got the amp and then it's hard really. Just change it to something else.

You're going to be like on the WhatsApp group, like the WhatsApp chap about the Oreos that's online. What, don't send your kids in with lollipops? That's great that. What was it? The Pat Lut. It's been very good. Well, yeah, I just think, yeah, it's just no need for it, is there?

No, fair enough. What way does get on to that? Yeah, I'm not sure. Lovaries. Libraries. Libraries. Because you said you get a lollipop from the reading. That's right.

Or a badge or something. So that was your exciting day date. It was really fun. Really enjoyable, actually. I haven't done anything. Just two kids' parties this weekend. All good? Yeah.

James loved the Bounter Castle. He's learned to jump, so he's absolutely buzzing. He just jumps off the stair, I can't believe it. Yeah, he's really into jumping now. That's good. Really good. I'm hoping the weather will still be nice around his birthday, because I might get a little Bounce Castle for the Garden.

Oh. Yeah. It's looking lovely. I mean, it's unbelievable. The weather's, like the day before his birthday, it's like 20 degrees. Yeah, it's unbelievable this weather, but it can fuck off. It's mad. I haven't.

It's really confusing my life, I have to say. The clothing. I was in shorts yesterday. I don't... I'm getting changed. I'm getting changed twice a day like a child. When I say I've been bitten on my leg. I mean, it's not normal.

I don't know what it is. It's weeping. I am fed up. I don't... In bed, got into bed last night. Mosquitoes in my room. The flies are still about as well. Loads of flies.

And now we're getting all the spiders as well. the spiders. I saw one this morning it was huge. I woke up this morning there's about 15 spiders in my kitchen and like

the really big skinny leg ones what she was saying earlier ranked up a cushion and it was like that with the legs out but what's that

like just this time of year the fields are being harvested everywhere the cobwebs oh my god I picked up some conchors

apparently sticking them on the window ledge keeps them away yeah some yeah I need to do that that there'll be some right there somewhere around here i assume so it's weird though

isn't it september so it's open it's late september we do have nice weather no we do yeah it's true but this feels particularly it is particularly warm it wasn't this warm last year i'm sure it was i think it was more wet maybe yeah which i can do without but yeah it's just not very season or is it. And I'm sure, is it in your line of work? I would imagine it's a struggle. Yeah. People aren't buying winter stuff. Yeah, that one's really, what you buy, have you bought much? No. What are you buying?

It's too up to buy knitwear. I put a jumper on the other day. Walked outside, I thought, where am I going? I took that off. I could do with some long-sleeved t-shirts. Yeah, jersey is what people are buying. Are they? Jersey, very lightweight jackets. Yeah.

That's it. And I even feel sorry. for some of the shops with all the kind of pumpkin stuff. And I know it's not quite yet. But no, I'm saying, but they all, I'm just saying they have these seasons and they get everything ready. Maybe they've got to change it.

Well, yeah, because normally people are probably getting it earlier, getting ready. Well, don, by and what, what are we talking about? Pumpkins for Halloween. What actual pumpkins? Oh, I'm talking, you know. Or the decor. Halloween ain't moving, babe. I know, but I'm not interested.

I've got my pumpkins out on the old. I bet you did. Oh my God Trick our dream Oh no Can we change the subject or not Are we still Childish

Losers What you've got pumpkins out on the doorstep? No On the mantelpiece My felt ones Of Stacey Solomon Georgia Astor Got them last year

Have you seen Stacey Solomon's moved house I know To a farm She's showing on She's showing all the rooms. Yeah. Have you seen the... No, it's not a farm.

It's like a manor house. No, a banner house, but she's doing a farm, isn't she? She's going to do a farm? Yeah, she's got lots of land. But it looks fucking huge. She was like, this is the bathroom as big as my lounge. It reminded me a scarface, the bathroom. You know, she's got the other packed, yeah.

I mean, unreal. She's got quite a lot of kids, though. She probably did need a bit more space to be fair to it. Absolutely, yeah. And she likes doing things that she does all her DIY. forward to seeing what she does. Did you see her fireplace? Yes.

She was, oh, you just want to, just to put into perspective how big it is. And then she like stood next to me. It's huge. Massive.

Like double the height of her. Cause, she'll make that look lovely for Christmas, won't she? Good luck to her is what I say. Oh, what was I going to say?

What did you say about pumpkin? Oh, did you see that? I don't really know who she is. She does a podcast with someone, but she was talking about breastfeeding in public. How funny is that? We are one mind.

Why? Because Romo mentioned it earlier. Who is she? Who is she? So I get confused. They both look very alike. I don't know who they are. One was on Love Island, I want to say.

She's very controversial. She's quite aggressive in her approach. People have gone in on her. But even just like... She has done a bit of an apology, I think, on the breastfeeding point. A guy put something up about his wife breastfeeding, like an actor or something. Everyone's really, yeah. Wow.

I mean I just think it's such There are certain subjects Whether right wrong or indifferent That I don't think You should talk about Because they have such strong opinions But why is

But everyone should be allowed their opinion I know You should be allowed your opinion But breastfeeding is nature It's natural Yeah So that's where it's weak I absolutely agree

People should be that entitled to their own opinion From what I saw from her apology She was saying that she said, she was saying just about, like, not covering up sometimes. If she's in a situation, there's just someone sitting there with their boo-b out. In like a situation you wouldn't expect them to be in, it makes her feel uncomfortable. I don't know why it would make her feel uncomfortable. I don't get it. I was quite an open breast feeder.

Like, you know, I said to Natalie, though, it's funny I've seen on social media now, the other extreme of people doing it, like walking along the shops, breastfeeding. I'm like, I don't know if I would personally do that. No, but also if their kidneys feed in. Is that safe though? Would you walk and do that? I couldn't have really imagine. Probably I've done it before walking.

But now everyone's showing these examples of where you, you know, but... For me, I just think, wow, if you can walk along and do it, good luck to you because I've struggled to do it at any point of any day, sitting down, standing up. I've found it absolutely horrendous. You know, everyone's just doing it. But I think, you know, there'll probably be someone, I don't know, jumping out of a plane doing it or something, you know, just to prove a point. It's, you know, it is what it is.

I don't know. But some people do feel uncomfortable by it, don't they? I don't know why you'd feel uncomfortable. Some people do not. As I think I mentioned before, they've become sexualised. Yes. But that's not the intention of them. No.

So, like I said, about that woman who was on, who'd had double mastectomy and she was on Good Morning Britain with no top on. And I think at the time, you look like, well, that's all you. No, it is. No, but when I spoke about it, But, yes, boobs are sexualised. They're not a sexual thing. They are nature.

So why does it matter? What did you think of the Sydney-Sweeney thing? Have I got her name right? Yes. Thank you. Is this the one that did the football? Yeah. What's the problem?

Oh, no. See, again, I'm so torn. My opinions are so divided on it. All right. Sorry, can you just explain to make sure I've got the right thing? The football about sport. Yeah. American football, but she's not.

She's naked in it. Yeah. And I just think it's so like 1995. It's so fucking boring. But she's not naked. She's got the ball. I mean, she's pretty much, she's naked with the ball.

I just think, for me, I just think, oh, really. It's VH, you know, when we had, what was it, FHM magazine, naked women sprawled over cars. I just think, oh, really? It's a bit, just a bit. But also, she's got a banging body, so she wants to show her. Oh, no. Oh, yeah, no.

I'm not saying that. I'm just saying from an advertiser's point of view. Yeah. Sex still sells. Yeah. Yeah, I suppose so. Yeah. Yeah, it's a hard one because I was, again,

reading loads of things about it and people are like, well, do you remember when it was the Diet Coke adverts and the guy? Yes. You know, all of that. Oh, yeah. It works both ways. That's what I'm saying. A lot of that was old.

It's just very old school. You still have, you still have some advocates. You still have like a man on a boat, on a boat with all these abs out. Yeah, yeah. You know, on the river. Yeah. On the river. Down by the river.

You know, going... But like, you know, no top on on a boat looking unbelievable. Or the perfume advert, I suppose. You still get lots of bodies on this. I think it was just because it was very... Oh, so who is she? I don't know who she is. Electric.

Okay. But I... So Nicola McLean actually posted something about it. She was getting a lot of stick about the fact that you're sort of supporting women's football maybe, is that right? But it wasn't. She just said, this is sport or something. So then everyone's taking it.

And they're like, well, you want to see how women actually play sport. They don't look like that. No, so there was loads of TikToks of women in sport saying this is what women in sport look like. But it's not what she's trying to be that. No, it's an advertising campaign, isn't it, to get people's attention? Yeah. No, interesting. Just wondered your thoughts.

For me, I went, gosh, is it 1992? I just found it a bit old-fashioned. Yeah, I think. So again, like for me, if I have, again, I have no issue with it whatsoever. Would I want my young daughter looking at that? No, I wouldn't. That's my, that's my, no, not really. I wouldn't, probably.

I wouldn't want her thinking, oh, that's what I should have to do to be noticed. But it's not have to, it's a choice that she's made. Absolutely. But I'm just saying it from an information. type of thing. It's not something I would... Yeah, I think I'm probably going to agree with you there. Yeah.

But at the same time, I get it like, to me it doesn't bother me as a person. If you've got an amazing body, good luck to you. Interesting about bodies, and I will mention this, which I think is very important. Joni has been really talking about weight, which for me is very odd. I'm not... I think she's just at that age. I'm not saying she's talking about her weight. Well, she was looking at her bum, and she was looking in the mirror, and she was saying,

I thought a really big bum, haven't I? She's got a lovely little bum. Then I said, I just get aggravates me. So I'm like, no, I don't know what you. So why are you even talking about that? And then she said, oh, lots of people at school were talking about Aurella Grande being thin. And I thought, this is wild. Yeah, but it's just people at school talking.

All these people at school, but you're 10. I know, but she's a singer who's very popular with that demographic. Yeah, but I'm saying Joanie wouldn't talk like that. No, she wasn't at school. Yeah, but she's obviously hearing it. She's hearing it from people at school. Again, I don't ever remember at that age. I go back to Spice Girls, but I never thought of Victoria's thin,

or I never remember any, like, that was never a conversation. But she's also said that a few people at school have said she's got a big forehead. And it's upset her. Oh, no. And she's so. That's how old and to love. Bless her heart. But she said, because you've got a big forehead, I haven't.

Yeah. Well, I haven't. I haven't. You have. But again. But also it doesn't matter. It's just cute. But again,

but she's now conscious about her forehead. I know. But she's just getting to that age now. I'll smash people up. It's not acceptable, but it will happen. Spam. You should say, we'll smash a head button with your big forehead.

I should actually. She'll come on. She's broken someone's nose today. Bless her. Yeah, no, I know. I just don't like it. I'm not saying it's acceptable, but unfortunately at that age, this is where they've got to build their resilience a bit.

It's hard, though. I mean, I'll smash people up there. Just that little naive people going to school and just going to school and playing. For me, though, as well, it's like, changes quickly. For me, also, it's, where are they getting that from? Parents, from older siblings? And their phones. Because for me, it's like, even with the whole, I've had it, well, not that bad,

but Alfie's come back. I've said it before, oh, my hair looks like a girl. It's all this stuff, it does come, it's not just... It's from their home life, it's from older siblings. Of course, it's generally... And social media. Yeah. But we had it.

You say that, it's not social media. We had it at school all the time. It's just a thing, isn't it? It's just... Yeah, kids can be horrible. Every kid goes... I can't imagine there's not one person in this world who's gone through school life and not being called...

Something or a comment. Yeah. There's no way. No, it's true. Even if they're, and there's nothing wrong with anyone, but someone will always try and pick out a weakness to you. Always. What are you going to do?

What you're going to do when Alfie gets to an age, hopefully you won't and he'll love his hair forever. But when he comes home and says, I want to go to the barber's mom, I want to be, I'm playing football on that, and I want to be, well, the good thing actually about football is they've all got quite caught. Yeah, exactly.

So I was going, go, Maldini! That's like he's going to be a little Maldino. But yeah, what would you do, though? I said it all off. I say no, absolutely not. Not why you're living under my roof. What if he's deeply unhappy though? I say, I don't give a fuck.

I'm joking. Oh, I can't imagine. He has mentioned it before and I said, no. No, he's too. I think he'll see if he gets older and he wants to. It's hard because I think if a little, if Ruby at his age said, oh, I want a Bob, you would say absolutely not.

I'll cut my hair out. I want it until you're up and eight. But with Alfie, it feels a bit, I feel like, oh, but if he wants short hair. But again, because I'm sort of generalising that he's a boy, and most boys have short hair, albeit they really don't. No, they've seen loads of boys now with long hair. But you sort of think, oh, well, if he wants it, you should have it, but you wouldn't allow a seven-year-old girl.

No, well, I personally don't think I'm home. And also, I'm trying to teach him that you haven't got to be like everyone else. Of course. Or do something because other people think. That's your hair. You've got beautiful hair. There are lots of boys in his school that have long hair. And Joe, what, every time I come out of an assembly,

some random mum will say to me, he's got beautiful hair, isn't he? He's lovely. And he's got the most beautiful hair. And he's close circular friends. One of them's got curly-ish, longish hair. The others have got short hair. Ah, yeah, is. But I just want to teach him that you haven't got to be like everyone else.

But what I'm saying is it gets to a coin. Of course, when he's older, teenager. When you get to, not just him. I'm just saying that you try and instill it in your kids the whole of your life to be individual. and don't be in a part of a pack and don't follow people. But as soon as they get to secondary school, it's impossible. They have to fit in, otherwise they're unhappy. Yeah.

It is so sad, but that's true. Just homeschool them, lock them up. That's what I say. Just changing the subject, I saw the best picture on Instagram earlier. Steve and Graham and Jason Stapham. Please look at how beautiful both the men are. Yeah, we see. Oh, I love them.

That is like, what a cracking, combo. Are they doing a show together? No, well, they just said long time, no scene or something. It is, yeah. It's cracking. How good does Stephen Greene? That's not a fashion show, isn't it? I think they were, we've, I can't remember.

This isn't the original thing I saw. How cracking does Stephen Graham look? Yeah, he's fit, ma'am. I tell you what's interesting about him. He's just, he's done a McDonald's advert, isn't he? I bet he's absolutely caker. I mean, I don't, I think maybe all the shows that he does, not really. McDonald's.

No, McDonald's would be like. No, it was, yeah, mega-buck. He's got a new show. I know. What's it called? When is it on? With Ashley Waters. No.

Burberry, of course. I said Burberry. Thank you. Bastardy. Ashley Waters has written something. Is that what you're talking about? Was that me? The back of your throat.

Oh, Romeo Beckham? Wow. Didn't he? Didn't Ashley Waters write the prison thing that was on? No, he's... On the BBC is our drama. No. He's in this new, though.

Knock turn? Yeah. Let me see it. Oh, God. But he's in it, isn't it? Yeah, yes, yes, yes, this is. October 30th, 26. Thank you.

What's it called? Nocturn? I don't think it is this. That bloke just don't stop, does it? What? Stephen Graham, he is unbelievable. Doesn't leave off. He does not.

Can you imagine the scripts coming in? I bet he hasn't got time to read him. To be able to just, I'm going to do what I want to do. Absolutely. It's a new thing, Elliot. Ashley Waters, I believe, has written, directed it, Stephen Graham's, in it? Yes, I'm aware. I'm telling you.

Oh. I told you about it. Fantastic. Ashley Waters and Stephen Graham I know that was adolescence. I don't know, you know. But I saw something about him too. You are useless.

I did see something about him. Good story, Bru. Yes, Nocturn may feature his most unsettling performance yet, Stephen Graven stars as Jamie's dad with Ashley Waters as the detective leading something. There you are. Detective leading. I'm sure. Just want to ask, I just think it's a great subject,

and I want people to let us know. What is your favourite name of a business or a shop that you really like? For instance, I saw this. It's really on the spot. How are you just thinking something? Well, you did yours. What? Because you created it all those years ago.

Oh, happy days. That sort of shit I'm talking about. No, that's stupid. Can't do that again. Unbelievable hair salon. I just really like it. Well, yeah, there's a load. No, but unbeweevable hair.

That's not her. with loads of followers. 41.5K. Yeah, she's like a very expert. She is an expert in her field, I believe. But what I'm saying is, yeah, very good. The play on words. Unbelievable.

Like in Hartford, the codfather, the fish shop. I like it. And what about only poles and hoses, the window cleaner? That's excellent. He's around here. Brilliant. That is a good one. And in the sort of signage.

Yeah, very good. I like that a lot. So please, 07-8, 2019, shops, businesses that make you laugh. I'll tell you what I don't like, and I think it's around here, is chish and fips. Like fish and chips? That's icky.

Yeah, that's awful. It's not funny. Yeah. There must be some others. Have you not got any? I can't. I can't. What do you mean you can?

I don't know. Like, what can you like? That is quite funny though If you think about it What do you like Oh like what do you like Is that what it is? No

Is that what it is? Oh I just fuck What do you like? No I know they're like No I think of what Is it a bit of everything Is it a little

An amalgamation of the two Oh my God Oh, what you like? Yeah. That one. Never had a thought of that. But yeah, I like it. I like that subject.

That's why I like the subject. It brings joy to me. Oh, dear. Yeah, O yappy days. That didn't last very long. That's a good one for the dog walking business. It's very good. Oh, right.

Maybe you didn't need that O. Maybe just yappy things. I know, because it was like, I hate it. I know, but we didn't need to say, oh, hi, oh, yappy days. You know, it did. It wasn't oh, yeahppy days.

It was an oh, yeah, Fee. Schuck. You couldn't have answered the phone, oh, yes. No, no. It's like, no, I just stopped my website on website and email addresses for about 10 years. Oh, don't. Oh, well.

It is very good. I'm not ashamed that Ellie is. Walking business didn't work out. I mean, there's time. There's still time. Oh, dear. I think you all would support me as in my pod fans. I think they would all really come behind me.

What, do you mean what? Give you a million dogs to walk. Yeah, I think they'd be rooting for me. They'd, like, post it and stuff. You're all not picking up dog shit. Are you? Oh, dear. That is very random.

No, but it would be funny to see. Maybe I'll make it franchise See if someone wants to fail Oh, bloody Yeah, we do laugh Don't we don't look Oh sorry, I keep smashing that money We know

I give up now Don't even know I don't ask Oh dear Oh dear Bubba word jam Quick update What you want?

Are you sure you want to know No Because I've played it 270 It's been really It's been really tough Like I'm having to Google All the words

278. Look at her face. She's living. What are you on? 278. And I've caught up with Kat. She's on 277 as of about an hour ago. 1-35.

Yeah, see, I can't keep things up. Some of the, it's just. Oh, sorry. Oh, here we go again. Level 1-48. Oh, I'm on close. Yeah, well, she ain't played it for a month. Yeah, I haven't played it for a month.

Yeah, I've played it for a while. I'm just still addicted to my other games. Do you know what it is, though? It's the time, isn't it, during the day? It's the time during the day. So I'm reading my book now for book club. Well, who's planning during the day? During the day, during the evening.

Whatever time I have, spare, I'm reading at the moment. So I haven't got time to play that. Good for you. How's your reading going? Non-existent, perfect. I haven't got time to read, guys, please. All right. Earlier is no longer part of the book club.

Thank you. I don't think she's ever been a part of the book club. No, I have. I read, um... No, you didn't. You didn't. She had already read that book. This is why we did book club club.

That's right. I don't know what you're talking about. You've read one, two. Three, listen to one. That's true. Anyway, we're back on it. Back in the game. Excellent stuff.

This has been Guanin. A little gripe of mine. People that have very few followers, or even a lot of followers, it doesn't actually matter. When they post... What in Instagram? She's obsessed. Obsessed on social media.

Right, on Instagram. be it five followers, five thousand, whatever it is, when someone posts up, hi guys, just to let you know, I'm going to go a little bit quiet on here. I hope you don't mind and I'll see you soon. I just need to have a little break on it. No one gives a fuck.

Why are you telling everyone that you need a break? Well, your close friends would know. You're not going to hear from much of me on here. And? So what? But what if like she posts quite all here? posts quite a lot and then is conscious that if they...

But your friends and your family will know that you're okay. Because you talk to them, don't you? Or you text them. She might think people might think she's dead or something. Or their messaging saying like, oh, you've been so quiet. Where are you?

But I'm not talking about famous people. No, I know. I'm aware. We could write that on the house even week to be honest. No one gives a shit, let's be honest. Who cares? Or why do you think that people care about that? Because

You think people are waiting for your posts Yes That's mad, isn't it? But that's some people That is what their lives are Just focused on what am I putting up I did my first post in six months

I think on Instagram Not a story, like actual posts I was like, oh wow I've got posted for a... Listen, no, I'm not... I'm having a go No, I know what you mean but no one really does care

I am on there for a couple of minutes. I am on there. I have to be. What was all the comments? What were the comments? Don't think much. I'm honest. I'm from Natalie writing. No one gives a fuck.

Just blows my mind still. I can't get over it. I can't change with the times of it. And I'm on it and I get work from it and I'm eternally grateful. I'll get the odd campaign and I have to do things. But I still don't understand. I mean, I'll probably stop getting any work from it because I do fucker on there. I think as well what you've got to remember is there's a lot of lonely people out there.

So that's like an outlet to them, right? Yeah. That they feel like they might have fake friends on there that like they, you know what I mean? It's just that. It gives them a purpose. Yeah, it gives them that. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's what it is.

That's a nicer way of looking at it. That is good. No, no, I like that. I'll think about that now. It gives people a bit of a purpose to do something. Yeah, I'm not. I mean, I'm not saying I think it's the right purpose in life to have. No, no.

Everyone's got different things going on. They have, but then I think what that does is, unfortunately, instead of people going out and actually doing things and they're just thinking, I'm just going to sit at home and do that. No, it is. It's funny a world. I tell you what, though, it does make you, again, I know that you laugh at me and all that, but the reason I like going into museums or art galleries or libraries,

it restores my faith a little bit. I come away, think, oh, there are loads of people who are not on their phones, who are interested in the world, who are talking to each other, who want to find out things and discover things, and you can see them. They probably have...

They probably haven't got social media. They probably don't even know on a telly, if I'm honest. But what I'm saying is there are still a lot of people in the world that are very curious and haven't gone down the route. of that, which makes me happy. It's a generation thing as well, isn't it? No, really? No.

They're right, yeah. Definitely youngsters. A lot of youngsters, I would say. I would say a lot that have fought away from it and have said, no, I don't want to do that now. You can see it. You can see the curve. I think it's a healthier way of living, isn't it? Let's be honest.

Yeah. Fucking hell, you know how to bring the tone down. Anyway, back to you. What I like is out the downs, the downs and the ups. It's like a really good stuff. And what's your search page saying on your Instagram these days? She loves it. Just because I just looked at mine.

Can you tell me how to do it again? No, no, just your search. Just when you go to search. The magnifying glass. Yeah, like what's coming up for you? Because all I have is beige trainers, white and beige trainers. Just clothes, basically. This is?

Yeah. I've got 400 Ricketts givace videos. What do you purchase? The magnifying glass. Yeah, but like what's coming up for you. Nail, nails, lots of nail in the spook. Mine is all, mine is all clothes for the autumn. Oh, that's nice.

I've got Liam Gallagher. How is that? Addidas track suit. So, look. That little check of Adidas. Oh, that's lovely. Oh, I want that. This is the problem.

Do you want to know what sounds? Go on in. I've got Ricky Jervase four times. I've got something about being a Torrean. I've got something that's come up that says you're eating at the wrong time. Perfect. 11 signs you're becoming. someone new.

Some inspirational shit. Behaviors of people who handle stress well. What your sleeping position does. Right, so yours is a lot about sort of self-care and... Self-care and then Ricky Javis and Liam Gallagher. Basically. And who was she playing the other day, like 100 times? James Flores.

Oh, that's annoying. What's yours, Meg? Yeah, lots of nail stuff, really. Oh, really? Some trainers. Hmm. Nice. Some stuff about my zodiac.

Or some bed design trends. They look nice. I'm going to have to get this Adidas. Lacey's on here. Liam Gallagher. Oh, lovely that Lacey's with Vito. I don't know. I mean, it's a bit of randum.

I mean, mine is actually just new balance trainers, children. Oh, look, Turtle Burgers. Maybe I could make them for James. Oh, fuck me. You see? No, don't even get me starting on that shit. Oh, I see. Oh, he would really like that, though.

No, I think he doesn't even. He doesn't like me. No, that's true. That would be a waste of time. Sorry, you said Lacey popped up on your Instagram there. Lovely Lacey Turner, partner with Vito. Woo! I'm so pleased about that.

I'm really pleased. Cannot wait to watch it on Saturday. Did it start on Saturday? No, it started last night. No, I know, but I'm not interested in that. Me too. I know what you mean. I like, it's like, ooh, we all know.

It's fine. Just get on. Yeah, but I, no, I'm going to be honest. I was going to lie and so I saw it. I haven't seen it properly yet. The launch show. Why was you going to lie? Just because I want to talk about the presenters, but they've had very good feedback.

Have they? Yes. And I think everyone has said it's, you know, very, very good. And Emma Willis is... Yeah, meant to be really good. Yeah, she's meant to be good. Claudia Winkerman put something, didn't she, one word, I can't remember what the word was. Perfect.

Just something like, you've smashed it, you know. Yeah, yeah. Well, she didn't say that because that's three words. But anyway, I think she gave her the nod to say, well done. I'm excited about it. But the judge is the same. Yes. I think so

I believe so who are they Shirley Ballas is she still one yes Shirley Ballas I like her a lot yeah Craig Revel Hawwood

who I absolutely love actually yeah love him as well yeah and you've got Mozzi great it's a good panel it is a good

it is good it's really good I'm not sure about the changes if I'm honest to the host but whatever I'll have to watch it

and see because I can't I've not given it a minute no got to give it a minute but I can't wait Saturday nights. What else is on?

Oh, Hit List is back. Is it? It's actually been back a few weeks. Oh, I watched it and it went. No, oh, maybe. Oh, yeah, so it wasn't on last week, but there's a few I've missed. Anyway, I watched that. That was absolutely fucking.

Do we think the floor's coming back? Yeah, but that wasn't, yeah, that's. Yeah, the floor is good. Alex. Nah, Alan Carr's picture slam. Oh, you? That's sick, that one. Really, really good they are.

Really easy watching. Can't beat a little game show. On a Saturday night. Can't really? Like watching, easy. What will we have? The wheel soon. Oh, the wheel.

The wheel will be back. Big brother, guys. It's all picking off. What is going on? It's Jedwood, isn't it? I thought I heard something about Jedwood. I saw something. I'd really like to watch it.

No, I can't believe I have them. It's meant to be too much controversy. But it's a time, isn't it as well? The time it takes. No, it's more. It's more. It's just how, yeah. I mean, I watched a bake-off last night, which has come back,

because I really love the bake-off. I like watching it. It reminds me of Eliza being little. It's got so much enough nostalgia for me, the whole programme. So me and Joanie watched it last night. Nigella has started, so it's Nigella and Paul. It's excellent. Although, I did have a little voice note that I will play regarding that subject.

Hi, Natalie. I hope you're well. Just watch the bake-off. and I'm slightly concerned at how Nigella eats cake. It's awkward to watch. I feel awkward for her, but I'd just like to know whether you've seen it, or even if the nieces have seen it, actually,

to get your take on it. And also apologies to Wales bells, if your chair is squeaking. It might be on my fat ass that's caused that, so my apologies. Anyway, thank you, see. Good evening. Catch you soon.

Is it Tim? She's Tim, buddy. Oh, I'd have to watch it. I didn't. I'll tell you what, Tim. I didn't think it was that bad. I was waiting for it to be a lot worse. In what respect to, sorry.

Well, because she's very... A news article from two hours ago, Nigella Lawson makes debut, but baffles fans with weird way she eats cake. What do you mean? So it's on there. How she eating cake? Because she is a bit, is it like, sexualised?

I thought she's eating it. I just thought it would be more sexualised because her programmes, have you ever watched Nigella? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They are a bit, very much, you're all very sort of sexualised. Do we need to do that? But I don't feel like she has been that bad, it wasn't.

It's a family show, she should have. Well, they're all talking about it, so all the best. But what I was going to say regarding it, A, I love it, it was great. For me, that kicks off the autumn, as much as strictly does for me. The music and sitting down. Poor Joanie. She, I've matched it.

I said it'd be off in a minute. Fuck me, the adverts. Yeah. Oh my Christ. I'm not doing that again. Well, you shouldn't have started, you shouldn't have told her about it and you should have started today. What turns it on?

Is it on every night? No, Tuesdays. Oh, so 10. Starts at 8? Yeah, well, to record it. 10 o'clock. It wasn't. She fell asleep and, I said, I paused it.

Oh, 10th up? Eight till 10? It was until 10. Well, maybe it's because it was the first one. There's so many. Adverts are annoying, me. But the adverts every seven minutes. Well, it's like when I'm watching Royal Family, there's a fucking advert in that.

I've recorded it. I've like got it on, you know, it's like on, well, I don't know. It's just available to me all the time. Why is there an advert? I don't want the advert. I'm not watching it like. But you can forward it. I know.

Still annoying now. Yeah, no. Of course. I know it starts at eight. It was probably just a longer episode because it was a first one or whatever. Anyway, it was just a really long time. And yes, unfortunately, I am going to now watch it. for OD or, you know, I record it and then watch it on Wednesday nights instead.

Yeah, we all do. Because it's really long. I just really found, is it because we're not used to advice anymore? No, of course we're not. No, we've got no patience for anything. Yeah, but there were so many. I feel like more than ever. Yeah, but that's like, I'm a celebrity.

Yeah. I would always watch start that half an hour later because you, genuine, you can watch, what, yeah, it's like an hour and 48 minutes or there's actually a lot. eight minutes or there's actually an hour and 20 worth of watching the program. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't like an advert. I know, it's a shame, isn't it? Yeah.

We're all too lazy and... And I'm new them. I can't bear the noise. It winds me up. But then I remember when I was younger, I loved adverts because you'd see, like, what toys were coming out. That's right. And Joni doesn't mind the adverts now.

She gets a bit annoyed when she's watching a film because she can only watch Harry Potter at the moment on ITVX, and that's really annoying her. But she now does the advert game within the adverts. So she jumps off the sofa and she's in front of the telly doing the adverts. That's hilarious. Oh, well, at least she's enjoying it. She's right.

But yeah, no, I enjoyed it. And as far as Nigella's cake eating is concerned, I actually did not really notice much. She likes a big, big spoonful, but good on her. I think people that are tasting things should be having a good old go. Yeah, but I don't think that's the issue. I think it's how she's eating it, how it's entering her mouth. I think she's just getting it in. I don't think she's doing that somehow.

And that's not based on the picture I've just seen. Yeah, exactly. It's all very like, yeah. Well, maybe they've just got that as a screen, a screenshot of it, because she's known for that. Let the woman just do the job. She was never going to do it, and people weren't going to say it, were they? Why are you not?

I've never, like, she's never been someone, like, I want to watch Jamie Oliver, I want to watch. I've never wanted to watch her. I've never, it's just as it. Like Delia Smith I could watch. Oh, yeah. Not really bothered about her. There's a.

Mary, Barry, I love. light her kitchen stuff. I can't wait to watch Jamie's Christmas. Oh my God. So excited. This week it's just started, isn't it? His new program. What's that? Jamie, Oliver meals in minutes, 20 minute meals.

Oh, yes. I love them. 20 minute meals, great. I'm going to watch that. Well, on Samsung, on the actual telly, you know when you turn it over sometimes and there's a load of channels up and you think what's going on? I haven't got it on Netflix, I haven't got it on Sky yet. No. And there's bundles of channels.

No, I just don't. Smart TV, babe. Smart TV. There's a Jamie Oliver channel. Oh, wow. On the smart TV. Yeah, I really love his shows, but the Christmas with what season? And then the other one he does with Gennaro.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's good, that one. It's very, very good. But Joni really made me laugh, actually. She was like an old woman. You know, sometimes she says something. And she went, oh, I do. She said, I do.

I love these cooking programs, my mate. She said, I really do. She went the other morning I come down. She went, there was a Jamie Oliver thing on, obviously this channel I'm talking about. She went, I didn't even put on my own. was going to watch. She said, I watched him for 20 minutes. It's the way she said it.

Oh, bless her. She's funny. Yeah, she's a little funny old thing. Right, lovely jubly. That was a nice little chat, that, wasn't it? Very good. A little catch up. Lovely jubly, let us know what you think.

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