Life with Nat - EP269: Scraping the Barrel #53 - overprotective vs opportunities

Episode Date: October 4, 2026

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Hello and welcome to Scraping the Barrel on this wonderful Monday afternoon. Well, it's not a Monday afternoon. It's whenever you listen to it, actually. I was going to say it's Friday, actually. Well, actually, we have done it on purpose. I said to Mark, let's do this last night. And then I said, actually, can't finish on a Thursday because the Traitors is on Thursday and Friday. So we've watched both episodes and come up to the pub room. I know we're not a tele-reviewing pod. Or actually there's quite a good podcast all about the traitors.

Yeah, no, but it's not like a castor in it. It's better. It's better. It's better. It's, well, it's Ed gamble, so it's much better. No, I like Ed. Yeah, it's better for me. He's quite good at podcasting, funnily enough.

Well, he knows what he's doing. Well, he's been quite successful in the past. I've run it is. James Acaster. Yeah, James Acaster. And also you've got Rommish and Rob Beckett. They're all in there. All the podcast people.

So while they're all in the Trators thing, we thought we'd do a podcast. I think people will love it. Yeah, perfect. So, what do you think about there being so many comedians in it? It doesn't make it funnier. Is all I'd say. Wow. Okay.

It's true. No, because they're not there to do their stand-up, are they? But I do wonder why they've been chosen. There's a lot. Right. I just wonder what goes through the producer's heads, that's all. It's not last one laughing. You've got Miranda heart.

You've got Joe Lysie. You've got Joanne McNally, you've got Rob, you've got Romish. It's a lot of comedians. Personality. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, so if you're trying to make a program like that, you kind of want certain people to be in it and, you know. So I get it.

Yeah. Yeah. And also, what are the biggest shows in the last two years? Anything that's, well, last one laughing. Okay, so maybe we're now drilling down into the conversation. Yeah, it's true. We're sort of working out. what's going on there.

Yeah. No, you're right. More importantly. Richard E. Grant. Yeah. So when he said, I'm a traitor, my initial reaction as a viewer was,

that's quite funny, actually. He sort of said he's a traitor. And he's a traitor. But then I'm a bit confused because... No, he did it as a mistake. No, I know that. You didn't know that at the time. You said to me on the sofa.

No, but I don't believe it. It's not. Nonsense. Right. When he said that, you cannot tell me that was something that he's done. He's done that deliberately. He didn't. It's nonsense.

Honestly, it's nonsense. Do you reckon? Don't wind me out. He'd said it. The way he said it, there is no way. And then a bit later on, he's like, oh, no, actually, I didn't mean to say. Okay. I think what's happened there is he's said it as like a, oh, I'm going to say I'm a traitor, just for a laugh.

Yeah. I'm a bit cocky and I'm bit excited about being a traitor. And then later on, some intervention has happened. And he's gone, oh no, I did it by mistake. Okay. Because now that is all that anyone's going to talk about, the fact he inadvertently said he was a traitor. I don't believe it.

Okay, it's interesting. I don't believe it. The bloke's an actor. It was appalling. But do you not think he was so excited? No. Oh, that's good. Unless he's gone into it,

I never watched it and just didn't realize there are ramifications of saying I'm a traitor. I don't believe for one second he's not watched it though. No, I... But also, I've got to say as well, right?

He's got to... He said that. If he had said it by mistake, why is it later on that he's going, oh, by the way, so the reason I said I was a traitor as I was so overwhelmed

by the fact I was in the traitors and I had manifested I wanted to be... Absolutely. What are you doing? Shut up. I know, but I love him so much. I don't really think he knows what he's doing,

which is why he's comedy gold. Anyway, there's a lot of people listening to this that don't watch the traitors. That's not true. There are a lot of people. Let me tell you one thing. Okay. The first night of the traitors.

This is why I get so excited about the traitors, okay? Because people say live telly doesn't work anymore. Appointment, sorry, not live television. Sorry. Appointment to view television doesn't happen anymore. This is going to wind me up as well. Please don't wind me up about this. 8.9.9.

million people sat down. You're winding me up so much about this. 8.9 million people sat down on their sofa. Okay. I've got to say this. Go on. Just going to say this now. Go on. Because I know most, thank goodness,

because our listeners are normal people we're going to get this. Yeah. The same people that understand what Heath Robinson means. Oh, hang on a minute. Stop there. Stop right there. Heath Robinson. Say again?

Heath Robinson. No, I ain't got a clue. I'm 48. I ain't got a Scooby-Bladdie-Doo who he for Keith Robinson is. Just catching up on the pod and I came across one where you said that my face is a little bit scary,

especially the eyes. She's brilliant. Mia Adkins. Mia always sends a video of her with a filter. on. Yeah, but she's brilliant. She sent me like 15. Oh, that's brilliant.

She's brilliant. Why are you doing that? She won't send anymore if you're like that. No. They're fantastic. They're great, Mia. They're a bit weird, but yeah. Well, great, yeah.

Do one without the weird filter maybe one day. That'd be nice. No, I'm not finished. Okay. Nat, who the fuck is Heath Robinson? Haven't a Scooby-D do you? Oh, hang on. Are you, like, four weeks in now,

and finally you've got some people that don't know, because we add about 400 people agreeing. But I'm now collating. Oh, well done. You mentioned it. Well done. Who the fuck is Heath Robinson having a Scooby-Doo whom Mark is referring to? On another note, Christmas has come to Fortnham and Mason.

Woo-hoo, Christine. Christine from Fortnome and Mason. Anyway, more importantly, getting back on the appointment to view television. Yes. Right, okay. So, traitors. Yep. Great program.

Unbelievable. What we're going to do, right, got a new episode coming out. It's coming out on Thursday. Yeah. Brilliant. Okay, right. And do you know what? You're going to have to wait until Thursday to watch it.

Okay, right. What timed it on? 8 o'clock, right? So go to work. Yeah. Good day at work. What are you watching tonight? I'm going to watch the Traitors tonight.

It's on 8 o'clock. it. Brilliant. Get to the TV, have dinner. We've got to think about it now. Got to make dinner. Finish dinner before watching it. Or do we eat something in the living room to watch it?

But at 8 o'clock, the TV goes on and we watch it. Yeah. I need to stop you. Hang on. Don't stop me. I was desperate. No. Oh, right, go on.

I'm stopping the words coming out. Yeah, just keep it zipped up. Go on. So, we've got a... TV program. It's scheduled for 8pm and we're waiting until 8pm to watch it.

And then more to the point, we're going to go, oh, we've got this great thing about the traitors. So it's on tomorrow night at 8 o'clock. But do you know what? You've got to wait until 8 o'clock to watch it tomorrow night. And everyone's like, oh my God, that's amazing. What an amazing idea. Oh, it's so radical.

Oh, we've got to wait for the time that the TV program's broadcast to watch it on. 39 years I've been doing that watching telly 39 years that's happened it's only the last year

that we've been able to watch anything the moment it's released I know right 39 years you've got to watch the telly at the right time I can't watch the 6 o'clock news tomorrow night now can I?

No I've got to wait till 6 o'clock tomorrow to watch it correct right it's nonsense don't tell me it's clever Oh, it's amazing. Appointments of You, Telly. I wasn't going to say they're amazing. I wasn't going to say it's amazing because that's happening.

That's nonsense. What I'm saying. They're making out. The BBC are trying to make out it's an amazing idea. No. It's nonsense. No. What I'm saying is, firstly, the traitors is amazing.

There is no other show in which we plan our evening around fully. No, I know. Do you know why that is, though, Natalie? Because every other program, you can just watch it now. No, because there's even strictly. No, we plan on evening around that because it's live. Yeah, strictly maybe. Okay.

Bad example. But there are other things on. Tell me a program that isn't live, but we, but we, it isn't live. There isn't one. Because it's such a good program though. I'm so sorry. It is. Every program on planet Earth used to go out on the board.

If Ludwig was out, series. Right. If a series were going out, we'd say, are we recording it? We would. We'd say, make sure it's recorded. If you've cast your mind back to when we actually watch the telly, you have to. When Lion of Duty came out each week, we'd watch it.

Yes. But I'm saying at the moment, for us... At the moment, at the moment... You're not letting me speak now. Every program we watch is just available. Not true. True. There'll be series coming out on that day,

but it's not something. Because there's spoilers and it's a game and you cannot be behind because everyone's going to tell you about it, You're watching it, and that's the difference. So 8.9 million people watch that on Thursday evening. Okay, yeah, I don't disagree with that. So it's about the spoiler element because it's a game.

Nonsense. Because there's dramas. No. With spoiler elements. You know what it is? I'll tell you what this is like. This is like Oasis tickets. So, if you were a racist...

I got them. I got them. Don't even start me on that subject. I got them. Let's not start that a copy. God them. Am I going with you? Yes.

No, sorry. When you booked your tickets originally. Yeah, I didn't. Please don't start this. It's not for the podcast. So going back, the conversation regarding the TV show. Yes. Now the traitors is appointment to view.

In other words, it's broadcast at a set time on the schedule. It's pretty much the only thing other than the new. and live sport for obvious reasons. Because of that, it's in the minority. Yes. Because of that, people do tune in to watch it. Now, there are really good dramas with twists and turns. Are there?

Yeah, there are. Right. And people don't. Really put me off now. Sorry. I believe, genuinely, everything you're saying is absolutely true. The one element that you're missing is a bit, because everyone is obsessed with it.

You can't afford to miss one and record it. I disagree. I think there's other programmes that are so good with twists and turns and whatever's, and it's because it's in the minority, it's catapulted it even more. it's the same as Oasis tickets. So, for example, if you launched, if you just literally just went,

there you go, there's 2,027's worth of tickets. Can help yourselves? People would go, oh, bloody hell, I can book a ticket. It's fine. I'll do it tomorrow. Don't need to do it tonight. Oh, do you know what, actually, let's wait and find out what we're doing.

Let's find out what we're doing next year. We'll give it a couple of months because the tickets are on sale now. We'll book them and it's all very chilled out. and it's all like, you wouldn't sell them. Because they're very clever, they advertise the slots. So they develop a hype around the slot.

And then what happens is when you get... So firstly, you've got... The first thing you've got to do is get to the slot. Yes. And then the slot happens. And then it's all like... You cannot go away now and not buy a ticket. No.

But if they just made it, you could book tickets from now onwards, And it was just a free-for-all. They wouldn't sell. They would sell. Don't pull the face. You know what I'm saying. They wouldn't, they would sell,

but they wouldn't sell like they do. It's the hype. And you were, so. You were logged on because you had a slot to buy a ticket. And you couldn't purchase the ticket you wanted. No. So you just went, oh, I'll buy that one. Yes.

It comes with a coach and a VR that I don't want that, but I'll pay for it anyway. It's true. If you'd log onto the website and you didn't have a slot, you'd just go, I want that, that's a ticket I want. I'll buy that. But they are in very high demand. They're in high demand because of the slots, because of the time.

No, it's an interesting theory. And it's the same with traitors. The viewing figures are devised around. It's because you can only watch it in this window. It's the same thing. That's what I'm saying. It's not like a drama, darling. Because it's a game.

There are dramas. There are dramas which have been, like, who done it. No, I'm not talking about this year. No, you're right. I'm talking about over the last couple of years. There are dramas. Yes. Where we have made a point of tuning in because of that night, it's that drama.

Yes. We've done that. Yeah. We've watched very simple. We've watched, we've watched, we've watched, like, inside number nine. It's an independent episode. It's an anthology.

Every week it's different. And we've chosen to tune in on the night it comes out. Chosen to tune in the night it comes out. Yes. So all I'm saying is, I'm not for one second saying that Traders isn't popular because it's a good show. It's an amazing show.

It's really good. We enjoy watching it. But the fact that it's available only when it's transmitted initially, speak volumes. And it's because all of our content now on television is deliberately being fed to the eye player or to an on-demand service

because it's generally perceived that people consume television now on demand. But that's what all I was saying, and I think you'll agree, I love to see it. I love to see 8.9 million, because people do watch telly. So for the people that say,

No one watches telly anymore. It's an art that's going. It's for the elderly. The youth don't do it. It was proven. People, if something is good enough and something is capturing the country, you can still do appointment to view television.

And that is not the same. That is not the same as saying having last one laugh, out for three episodes. It's not the same. It's absolutely what you said, because you've got to watch it tonight. Because in the morning, when I put the radio on and someone's talking about it,

oh, no, what's happened. Sorry, can I just say? Yeah. That that has existed. I know. But it hasn't done. But that's the only program that has captured that for a very long time.

Agreed. That's all I'm saying. If we go back 15 years, ago. Fewer channels. Yes. Therefore, you're more likely to watch for shows that are on television.

Yes. Because television is naturally smaller. What's being transmitted is less. Less choice. So the odds are, if you had an office of 30 people, you've watched channels one to five. Agreed.

Right. Now, not as likely because people don't watch so much tele. It's all been diluted. There's lots of channels. There's lots of different mediums to watch as people that just watch YouTube.

or watch whatever it might be. Or Netflix, Netflix, or on demand or whatever. So you firstly diluted everything down. Everything now, we watch Clarkson's Farm, we get to the credits, the next one starts. Correct. It's all like that now. That's only the last three or four years.

Can I just say something about that? So Clarkson's Farm is extremely popular. It's won awards. It's huge. But there aren't spoilers on it. You're not desperate to watch it before someone else tells you about it. No, but that is one of the exceptions of the rule where if that was, if they had the balls to only release that on a Monday,

and it was a weekly show, it would work, and it would get really good figures. Yes. People would wait. Because believe it or not, that is how it used to work. I know. Now, it's only in the last couple of years that you've been able to watch the whole thing. The Crown was one of the first things it did that. The Crown did really well.

Yes. You could watch a couple of episodes ahead each time. It was always like two or three episodes ahead, two or three episodes ahead. I can't remember what series it was. I remember the series where all of a sudden it was all available. Yeah. This is mad. We can watch it all in this week.

It's crazy. Interesting. What happened? We didn't watch it. We didn't watch it, did we? No. But because the majority of programs now have shifted, so you can see it on the eye play.

I mean, even EastEnders, you can watch on the airplay in the morning. I think that's terrible. Sorry. I do. That's just me. Yeah. You should have to wait for East Enders. You've now got the minority, other than the news and sport, as I said earlier,

the minority of programmes are, as you call it, appointment of you. Yeah. Now, therefore, may I say, like this is a bit of a controversial thing to do. If I was starting a new TV show if I made it appointment to view and it had some kind of hook and it was half decent, I'd have an edge

now. Are you making a drama at the moment? Just hypothetically speaking? No. Oh, I thought maybe you'd have me in it. No. Fair enough. But I'm just saying now, I believe, because the traitors has got this,

the traitors is doing this massive thing about you can only watch when it comes out. And I'd have to find it hilarious because it was two years ago. I know, but it is a great show. And it wouldn't work for everything. That's what I'd say. It worked for everything for 75 years.

So I've done what you're talking about. I'm really sorry. I disagree. We can agree to disagree. It's what podcast is about. We've got a debate going on. It's spicy for a Monday. I'm confused.

You're older than me. And you're actually just mad. Here we go. Earlier on, Mark said to me, listeners, Ramesh come on, right? And it said Ramesh, 48. And I went, God, he looks good, didn't he for 48? Mark said, well, you're not far off that, are you?

He's close than I am. Hang on the fucking minute. I'm 42. I'm not 60 years ago. I'm 43? You're more than 42. Definitely. I can't remember.

Yeah, I think you're 44. No, don't wind me up. I think you're born in 82, 83. 83. Right. Where are we? 7, 10, 17. I'm 43 now.

Am I? 7. 27 had 6. Yeah. I thought I was 42. Yeah. You're in your 44th year. However.

No, you're not. No, I'm not. You're in a 43rd year. Am I 43 or 42? You're not 42? I'll tell you why I know you're not 42, because I'm 40. Fine. Yes.

That's right. And soon you're 41 and then there's two years between us. Yeah, well, it's not as there. It's a three years. Yeah. But I genuinely thought I was 42. I quite like that. You get to an age where you don't really remember how old you are.

Well, it's trouble. You've forgotten it to run the wrong way, haven't you? Never mind. You know. I remember the year that I thought I actually lost the year. That was the best feeling. I know. You've spoken about that. It was brilliant.

Well, you're 41 in three weeks. just so you know. And what are we doing for my 41st? I think we're both working on knickers off, which is a shame. I'm doing a little job. Not sure if I'm back that day or not yet. It's one of those we have to see.

Okay. Yeah. Okay, brilliant. And what am I doing? Working. This time last year we're going to Wales. It's lovely. I really enjoyed that.

And our lovely hotel stay. Oh, yeah. So nice. That was nice. It was lovely. That's why they're special. What's special? Sort of the big birthdays

because you have to plan around here. I don't call it a big birthday. Okay. It's not really a big birthday, is it? What, 40? No. Rower, I might have something to say about that. Oh my God.

I mean, when's for next party? Well, we've had the brunch, Saturday. It was fantastic. There was a little cake that came out. That was up for her birthday. Oh, I know, but we celebrated it then. up. Yeah.

Shut up. That was going to be the last celebration. That you're winding me up. You're making that up. You're making that up. Spoiler alert, everybody. Not a spoiler. Sorry, it's traitors.

It's in my head. It's not a spoiler alert. It's happened before this has been out. Yeah. We haven't had the brunch is tomorrow. But yeah, we have mentioned. No, it's not. Tomorrow is Tuesday.

The brunch was last Saturday. So confusing for everyone. It's not really. It's the same sort of concept as what we've just been talking about for 15 minutes. It is true. Because you can't just go,

Oh, there's a year's worth of life of Nats to download and listen to. You have to listen to it on a weekly basis. Wouldn't it be good, though? Yeah, but people do find it. Wouldn't it be good? Oh, yeah. People discover it, and they catch up or they listen. Okay.

Or maybe. There's someone listening to this right at this very second. How is this for a fault? Go on. Someone, I reckon, in the year 2050, has found this, and they're listening to me speaking right this second. No. So if that's you, and it's 2050, hello.

I'm probably not alive anymore. but nice to nice to you to listen hopefully you will be baby 2050 maybe 65 sorry

about 75 or something about math tonight is terrible 50 604 phone Carol sorry phone Carol phone Carol

phone Carol Vorderman anyway what have you got coming up podwise have you got any special guests coming up um

you're one important I've got someone really special coming up My problem with special guests is I always worry if it's not in the can, I don't want to say it. No. No, that's fine. You say you don't need to say it.

No, but there's actually two really good ones. But we can play a game though, couldn't we? There's two really good ones. Okay. Well, coming up, there's some good guests. Two super guests. Obviously, family always, but two little guests that I feel people will be like, oh my God, that's great.

Two super ones. Really good. Okay. Do you want have a little guess? Yeah. Play a game. Yes or no game? Okay.

We do guests each. One or two? Sorry? We do the meat. Can you speak English? What are you talking about? I can't. You need to...

Right, I've got to think of the first one, is what I mean. First what? First guest in my head. Guest or guess? Guest. Right. Because I can't... You can't guess for both of them.

Does that make sense? No, it doesn't. And what you're saying, it literally doesn't. Well, if you say, are they female? Right. It needs to be for one. Oh, my God. Is it what I mean?

No, not really. Is it bedtime yet? I'm so tired. Right. I'm thinking of one guest. Here we go. Right, okay. Have a little guess.

You've got five questions. Is it a male? No. Are they off the telly? Yes. So it's a female? and they're on the telly. Have they just produced a book?

Yes. All right, okay. Well, if I get it, I can't say the name, though, because you'll get annoyed. All right. Is it... Yes. Oh, okay.

Right, next guest. Is it a male? Yes. Does everyone in the country know who they are? Are they famous, in other words? But quite famous, yeah. I'm quite famous. Male, quite famous.

Are they on the telly? Sometimes, yes. Sometimes. Yeah. But is being on the telly, not their primary thing? No. Okay. Is it...

Yes. Amazing. He did really well there. That's quick, wouldn't it? Yeah. Is he going to be in this room, though? No. So how's that going to work?

You're going to go to him? We're going to do a Patreon about it. Don't worry. Okay. But we can talk about it now because we've been quite elusive because no one knows who we're talking about. We can, because thankfully this isn't live. Yes.

I'm going to push it now. And we've got a very good person editing it who will know how far to take it, won't they? So when you go and see this person, yes. They're not going to be here. No, you've got to go to them. Yes.

Okay. Do you think it would be quite high security? I would imagine so, yeah. Okay. We can't do that. No. We can't. There's too much.

Darling, we've had a huge amount of the same video, which went viral on Instagram, and people really do think of us. I can't tell you how many people have sent me this video. Three? No. Four? No, quite a lot. Five?

Over 20 people. Okay. Over 20. Right. Irish fella breaks world record for fastest time to eat a full. Vionetta. Rory Finley ate a whole Vionetta in one minute, 15.30 seconds, setting a new Guinness World record. I have to say, what do you think about that? They're not that big. One minute, 15.30 seconds, I think you could beat it. Imagine if you became a Guinness World Record holder.

So I've got to say, right? Yeah. I know it's a bit of a, you know, Not wanting to sort of like, you know, what's the expression? Rain on my parade? Yeah. I've not had a Vianetta for about five years. You liked them, though? I did, yeah. I like a Vionetta.

We spoke about when the podcast started. Yeah. I've not actually had one for a long time. Could I eat one in that time? Probably. I genuinely think I'm going to buy some. But it's not like I eat many of them. No.

But I think if we bought it, we should have a go. Because wouldn't it be brilliant if you could be. become the Guinness World Record holder. No, I wouldn't. I actually, it's almost making me feel like I'm going to be sick. So, no. Okay, fair enough. But nice, though.

Nice to me for think of me. But they have. They thought of you an awful lot. Yeah. But unfortunately, I'm sorry to say, I've not actually had a Vianetta or part of a Vianetta for quite a long time. I hate to say it. In fact, I actually had some ice cream earlier.

You did. But other than that, I've not had ice cream for quite a while. You did have a maxi chalk. Oh, I did. You did. Tim brought one. Yes, I did.

There was a few brought around for me. I mean, there don't exist anymore. But I've still got, I've got three. I've got the last three in the world in my freezer. We think. Quite likely. You're tired, darling. I'm so tired.

Oh, bless you. We're really there. That's why we scrape the barrel. It's brilliant, though, that you're with me and you support me. I have to say. Hi, Nat. I'm listening to you. your beloved,

scraping the barrel, and you're making me bloody hungry talking about that curry. Could you please, please, please, please, please,

share Mark's curry recipe because it sounds divine and I'm on the way to the supermarket here in New Zealand thinking, my goodness, I need to make a good curry,

but I always make a shit one. So if you would be so happy to share the recipe, that would be amazing so then I can wail the hubby with it. That'll be awesome. Love the pod. Love all of you and the nieces.

You and Mark and your brother. I'm a massive fan in New Zealand. Keep it up. Love you guys by Sandy. Sandy, let me tell you now, the fat of curry that was made two days ago, you know when they do Master Chef and they're like, what we're going to do is you've got to go into a kitchen and we are now feeding 100 people and they have to scale up the recipes and they're like in a massive warehouse and that's what it was like here. How many, well, I can tell you how many froze. 12 portions of curry use froze after eating it.

There was two portions consumed. And 12 frozen. 12 frozen, yeah. Unbelievable. So how many portions did I make? 14? Very good. I'm not a dickhead.

Well, you have a way to talk about it to say. Are you going to tell Sandy your recipe? Yeah, it's chicken. Yeah. So you get some onions first. Just do a couple of onions. Put a minute. It depends on.

How many are we making it for? I think for Sandy, she said her husband. So I reckon let's make it for four. They might freeze two portions. One large onion. Yeah. Dice it, fry it. A little bit of garlic.

Garlic and a curry? Yes, Natalie. Yep. Garlic and a curry. Listen, Sandy. A bit of fresh garlic, deliberately. I mean, any curry paste will have garlic in. Yep.

As I'm sure you know. Ask Tony. Yep. Continue. Did you put garlic in your curries? Yeah, I think so. I can't remember. So why are you questioning the garlic?

Not sure. Okay, so do you want the recipe or should we... I think you... Honestly, I think it's a lot giving it out. No, it's not. Save it for the cookbook. One onion. Save it for the cookbook.

Sandy asked for the recipe. I know. I'm not going to text it to her, so I'm going to say. One onion. Wack it on Patreon. A little bit of garlic. Fry that up, then a pepper. Chop the pepper.

It doesn't matter. what pepper it is, bread pepper. Pepper and a curry, guys. It's a really good recipe. Do you know how many people now are screaming for you to stop interrupting me because they're trying to write down a recipe? It is true.

I can see people now with their pen and paper in their hand. They can carry on. It's just sandy. Pepper. Pepper. A bit of chicken, but I don't cook the chicken.

Don't brown the chicken. Don't do anything with the chicken. Just mix the chicken in with the onion and now turn the heat down. massively, because we're going to cook this curry all day. Obviously, if you're going to eat it within the next hour, cook the chicken. But if you've got a bit of time on your hands, or you're at home, turn it down to the lowest power level now on your hob.

So we've got our onion, our garlic, our chicken, and a bit of curry paste. If you're using a traditional jar of curry paste, not sauce, paste, just like a quarter of a jar for that. four people will be perfect. No more than that. Choose what you want. So for our house, we use a corma. You can buy a corma.

I would personally use madras, but because we're busy with a kid, we do corma. Then I reckon for four people, two tins of tomatoes, maybe one, two tins probably. And then for four people, probably don't need any water,

but maybe dash, but just now start looking at it thinking there's there enough for four now. If there isn't, a dash of water would be fine. Tomato puree, then you want 150 mils of yogurt, 100 to 150 meals of double cream, stir it all together on a low heat, and I cook that on like power level one all day.

So when you eat it, the chicken just falls apart. Yeah, it does. So it's like a slow cooker. but that's roughly back of a fag packet. People are now screaming what other spices are in it because it's a curry. Well, because I bought a curry paste, that's all been done for me.

You can put a little bit of, what did I put in the other day? Oh, I forgot my name of it. What I would say is our kids are not massively, they wouldn't eat something that had loads and loads of spices in it. So this curry is perfect, because the kids absolutely love it. So for families, this curry is perfect.

If it was you and me, I'll be getting them a dress sauce and I'll be putting loads of other stuff in. Name me some spices. Coriander seeds. That I did chopped fresh coriander. Oh, you did. Chopped, yeah. What's the other one?

The garam. Garam masala. Right. But that's in the paste. That will be in your paste anyway. I put a teaspoon of that in. Yeah. Yeah.

I put in, what else should I put in? I put a little. bit of stuff. Do you know, I'll be honest. You sort of chuck it all in when you're doing it, don't you? I'll be honest with you, right. Just go on BBC Good Food. Chicken Chicken, Ticket, masala. Yeah. For 10 people. Look that up, just do the Korma instead of the Ticka masala. Brilliant. That's basically the recipe I do, although that's for 10 people.

Well, there you go, Sandy. Hopefully that's helped you. Probably not. Let us know, though. Send us a voice note. Good luck. And just make sure you cook the chicken through. We had some wonderful messages regarding Pinino Pinini A lot of people It was a good talking point 100,000 people looked at the video Big video

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Yeah. How's Dave? He's right, yeah. I really, really miss the crew from his tenders. I really do. Yep. Like, genuinely. Because they don't seem to mention you.

No, I really miss seeing Marco, for instance. Giuseppe enjoyed it as well. He said you had a good accent. Did he? That's not. Nice. Grazie, Giuseppe. You see me presto.

Ciao. I had to explain the story of a minibus. Oh, did you? Yeah. So I didn't sound like an absolute asshole. Like talking about how you're... When I said, don't do Italian. I had to explain why I said,

saying don't do Italian. When he listens to that, he'll say, what are you talking about, Mark? It's not that bad. No, he actually said the accent's really good. Yeah, Laura. There we go. Yeah.

So moving on, yeah. Joanne Perrota. Oh yeah. She said, thanks for the follow. Following people now, are we? Following ladies on Instagram? Is that a new thing or?

No. No, fair enough. If you follow, if you go camera underscore Mark on Instagram, give me a follow, send me a message, I'll follow you. Within reason, as long as, you know, it's, you know, polite and not rude. Thanks for the follow. Nafel on social media, so I don't expect any exciting content. Have got this for you, though.

I'm just recently back from Salerno in Italy, and their speciality ice cream is a bit of you, I reckon. It's gelato in a briosh. I can't explain how good the brioche was. It's like a maxibon on steroids. I'll send you a picture. Have you ever had an ice cream in a brios? Because that is a very, very Italian thing, and it is delicious.

No, but I tell what I have done. What have you done? Ice cream in a Yorkshire pudding. Fucking hell. Which is actually what gave me the idea. I can't have that, Mark. We had a roast dinner and Alex was over, and I said to Alex, and there was two Yorkshire puddings left over,

and I said to Alex, were you there? Said to Alex, I'll watch this, do you want an ice cream and the Yorkshire pudding? He was like, yeah, right? I mean, he's normal as well. So I took the Yorkshire puddings, and what I did, very cleverly, was I put them in the microwave for five seconds each. Then I put a scoop of ice cream in and then put them in for 10 seconds each.

So the ice cream started to melt into the Yorkshire pudding and the Yorkshire pudding starts to soften. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Same as a pancake, isn't it? I know what you're saying and you're right. The ingredients are absolutely baker's ingredients. But for me, putting a sweet substance

within a Yorkshire pudding is sacrilege and it's not for me. It was lovely. It's disgusting, actually. No. I'd let them often. Would you put ice cream in a Yorkshire pudding after eating Yorkshire puddings with a roast beef? I had one Yorkshire pudding in that mail.

Who are you looking at? My listeners. Right, okay. Just to say, there's about four people to watch this. Fine, no problem. And you're looking at them. I'm listening to them. I'm looking at them and I want their opinion.

Okay. Everyone matters. All right, okay. Disgusting. What about the 95% of people listening to this? You've got to say to them. 077-8-28-20-1919. Is it okay to have a roast dinner

and with the leftover Yorkshire that you've had with your gravy, put ice cream in them? Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're completely making that up now. No, I'm not. I'm talking about, can I just be clear, though? No.

We're talking about... Sorry? You had Yorkshire puddings with gravy for your dinner and the leftovers you had with ice cream. You're completely... Did you do that or not? I did not do that. You're making it sound like I've taken a Yorkshire pudding off a plate covering gravy.

No? You're deliberately phrasing it like that. Sorry, I beg your pardon. No, they're plain. Yes. Clean yorches of an hour gap between the mills. So you've got a standalone Yorkshire pudding that's not been near a plate, near beef, near gravy.

Agreed. You're talking about lots of different ingredients and then throwing ice cream into the hat. This is standalone. Yes. Forget at the roast dinner. No, I can't. If I was to go, right, okay. Because two hours before, you'd had a Yorkshire pudding with gravy.

And then an hour later, you're changing it up. I don't think I did. I don't think I did. You did. I can assure you did. You did. Okay. That's my problem. Right.

But I'm looking forward to the response. Let's see. Because you're right. It's flour, milk and eggs. I haven't got to tell me. Same as pancakes. I know you're good at that stuff. It is exactly the same.

But for me, the shape of it... Go on YouTube now. It's savoury. It's savoury. Go on YouTube and type Yorkshire pudding with it. I know. I know. People have jam with it. I've seen it. Okay. They have rice pudding on it. They smash Nutella in it. For me, a Yorkshire pudding is a savoury item. That's all I'm saying.

Hi, I have just finished listening to episode 52 of scraping the barrel. And you and Mark have asked for some voice notes. So here is a voice note for you. I am 25. I'm currently in a job that I don't really want to be doing. I have a childcare qualification, but no longer wish to be in childcare for the way Ofsted is going. And every time I try and get a new job somewhere else, my parents kick off. And it's like, how do I stop feeling guilty about the way my parents feel towards a job if I feel comfortable doing it? But yeah, they just Yeah, I can't afford to live in the area either So I'm looking at moving up north So yeah, I sort of

What advice do you have for a parent That is far too overprotective of their child I thought that was such a good message And thank you, we always love voice notes And we don't really get a lot of advice questions So I thought it was really good So I am very overprotective of the children I think they are always looking out for you

which is really annoying. If you are not happy in what you're doing, then you're absolutely doing the right thing. And if the job comes up, which is more simple, maybe you're overqualified for it. It actually doesn't matter. As long as you're getting up and you want to work and you want to earn money,

I think you're doing really well. In terms of moving up north, because prices down here are really high, you're not my child, so I'd say, I understand it, I get it. You want to live within your means and be able to earn money and I get it.

But as a mother, I'd be heartbroken if my child wanted to move up north, but I understand it. And I'm very interested to see what Mark says. I completely understand where you're coming from. You sound like a very sensible human. But your mum and your dad, they love you, they don't want to lose you,

they want what's best for you, and they're very protective. That's what I'd say. It's very difficult to answer that really because I don't really, I don't fully understand the means in which this young lady is in. No. So, for example, you know, are there other options

if you don't go to that job? You know, I don't know. But for a last time around and said, Daddy, I want to move up north because it's really down here just the cost of everything's terrible when I move up there. The first thing I would do, and you would do, is look into it and go, well, how can we help her, stop her doing that?

Because both of us wouldn't want her to do that. However. Which is kind of my point, because I don't really know what the circumstances are because if there's, I don't know if there's any justification behind that in as much as they can go, well, you don't need to because we can help you.

We can keep you down here. We might be able to, you might be to live with us, rent free. You might be to, I don't know what the circumstances are. No. So that's, that's tricky. There's a thousand circumstances. Yeah. But given the circumstances it would have been given.

Yeah. I would say, yeah, it is really hard. It depends on... See, if you want a vocation... Yeah. Which care is. And that is an option for you, then, yeah, that's the job you want to do. And if you need to move...

It's no different to people, like, 20 years ago that I worked with now, 20 years ago, they weren't to work in television. And one of them might have been in Newcastle and they might have had a local TV station or they can move to London and they moved to London. Or I worked with someone

I used to work with someone at TLS who was from Whitby. Yes. He's moved down from Whitby to be in London. Because... Opportunities. That's the job. To do the job, you've got to be in London.

But now that's changing for television. Oh, that's changed massive. Nowadays, you're not allowed to travel. Nowadays, what they've done is they've moved the whole industry. to different random places. Don't even get me started on that. I know, but it's really good, though, darling.

Is it? It's not good for you, but it is good regionally for people that... It's good for the north. Hang on. It's not for me. No, no, no, no. I'm just saying it isn't good for you

because you live here. I'm not saying it. I wasn't... That was not weighted in my perspective. I don't know about that. It's massively affected the industry for the worse. The quality of programming is worse. So, I'll explain why.

So if you've got a TV show, let's, for argument's sake, I'll just pick on BBC Breakfast. Yes. BBC Breakfast used to be based in London. Yes. Let's be honest. Most people, on BBC Breakfast, do you want your politicians? Where are they always going to be in the middle of their, when they're working?

Well, if Burnham is his way, they'll be in Manchester. See, what they're at number 10? No, let's be honest. Let's go back to reality. They're in London. They're in London at the moment. And generally speaking, if you've got to, got, if you've got like a

junket, a celebrity junket going on. High profile guests. Where are they? Where are they? London. Right, okay. So we've gone to, what we've done is we've gone, okay, we're going to do it in Manchester. We're going to take a feed of a London background.

Yeah. And stick it on the back wall. I know. But we're going to do it in Manchester. Well, I've got one question for you. Why? Because now, if you've got any high profile guests. I know.

they can't be on it now because they've got to go to Manchester or okay let's take another example let's choose a popular panel show yes quiz show let's go and do it in Glasgow okay we're doing it in Glasgow because we've got a facility to do it in Glasgow we've got staff who do it in Glasgow but the talent

okay we've we're recording three shows a day and we need 12 people a day a month in we're running out of people now in Glasgow we're a bit short so what do we have to do we have to get people up from where

London okay and where was the show made originally London right so we're now taking the people I thought it was to do with sort of regional fairness hang on a second well hang on we then fly the person up

yeah okay so we paid for the person or train or train paid for them to go up we've paid for them to get in a hotel we pay for them to be there for the day, we pay for them to stay in hotel again, we pay for them to travel back again,

all with the idea that it's better because we're now making these TV programmes regionally. Yeah. I'd love you to explain why that's beneficial. I have no. I can't explain that to you, I'm afraid. Okay. Because when I got offered things that are in Glasgow,

I really have to think about it. And I think that could take me, if that was in White City, it's an afternoon or an evening. Yeah. Now it's two days and I'll often say no. Now don't get me wrong

because there'll be people listening to this going, of course you're saying that because you work in London. Well it's true. I get it. Yeah, fine. But let's now look at the TV industry sort of 30 years ago, 40 years ago, where we had a Scottish region.

We had Manchester. Yes. We had Granada in Manchester as well. Independent channels as well as We had, in Birmingham, we had independent channels. Absolutely, I remember BBC Birmingham. We also had ATV. Yep.

So we had, you know, there's lots of regional telly, 30, 40 years ago. Not my fault that there was this mid-period where there was nothing. And then all of a sudden, when everything was sort of whittled down to just being in London because everything else had closed. Yes. All of a sudden there's this like knee-jerk reaction to suddenly make it regional again. Now, all we're doing is emulating. what had always been done before.

I know. I know. And my argument is, moving BBC breakfast, I don't really care, to you honest, but I don't work on it. It's got no interest in mine.

I was thinking it looks ridiculous. But moving something like that to Manchester or moving a popular quiz show to Glasgow, it doesn't make any sense. However, I would love programs to be made in Manchester

as they are and programs be made in Glasgow, there's nothing wrong with that. That should be promoted. That should be happening. But make your own ones that can be made regionally. Like if you're making a show in Glasgow,

don't do a show where you've got to fly people from London. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you can do Mrs. Brown's boys. That works. That's always been in Glasgow. You can do that in Glasgow

because the whole cast stay there. They rehearse it for a week, they record it, and then they rehearse the next episode, and then they record it, and it works. Yeah. The whole cast day there. There's no one flying up and down the country or flying in from...

That's fine. But don't move TV programmes that have been based in London for the sake of making a point of moving it out of London and being anti-London. Because it's not good for your licence fee payer. It's not good for costs. No, it's true. it doesn't make any commercial sense.

You wouldn't do it in any other industry. What industry would do that? No. You don't, you don't, if you happen to be making, if you're at Vitties, you're making biscuits. Yeah. You don't, and it happens to be like in a city. Whatever, Harrogut.

You don't suddenly go. We're going to come to Cornwall. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to be inclusive to Cornwall, so we're going to go and make them there. And then everyone's got a move now. You've all got to relocate, all your families.

Yeah, yeah. We're going to make biscuits. down here now. What other industry would do it? No, I did it. So actually, I'm quite defensive on that subject because it isn't sensible. And it is to tick boxes and it's an absolute waste of people's money. When we're talking about the BBC, it's a waste of licence fee payers' money.

When we're talking about commercial telly, it just doesn't make any sense. But that's why a commercial telly doesn't really do that. You know, they've started to try and do it because they've got a bit of funding and a bit of grants and a bit... Now they're like, that's mad. It doesn't make any commercial sense whatsoever, so they don't do it. But you are right. Regional places can make great telly.

Absolutely, they can. Probably the best. Yes. But don't feel the need to relocate a successful program, which is probably only successful because of the people that it gets, and the reason it gets those people is because of where it's based. Yeah, because it's easy. But if you've even move it and you can't get the people,

I mean, there shows that we've watched where you, you know it's made. You can immediately tell when it's not made in London by the quality and the variety of the people that are on it. Oh, I thought you said the quality of the programme. I thought we're going to have everyone here. No. I'm being absolutely honest.

We can have every region. Absolutely. Hating us. There is nothing wrong with it. And do you know as well, never before, in the last five years, there are so many good productions made regionally, which are self-sufficient. I'm not for one second saying,

this is the thing. Let me be clear. I am not for one second, obviously, saying that shouldn't be happening. No, I know that. Of course. We talk about it all the time. My conversation, my opinion, is of productions that have been moved. Yes. That is all I'm talking about. When the production has been moved.

Not if it started somewhere, good luck to it. That's what should be happening. Don't move production. Well Most people have switched off now Because they're like this is quite boring I don't know I think people will like it

I've really enjoyed today I think it's been really insightful I think we've had a little bit of teletalk Which we don't do often No We've had an opinion I think it's been really really good actually 0778828201919

Let us know what you thought It's nice to have a little change up Isn't it Do some different bits and pieces There's quite a lot of different bits and pieces coming soon I can't wait for you to see what's coming I'll speak to you very, very soon

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