Life with Nat - EP47: My brother Tony

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

Nat talks to her big bro Tony about saving money on memberships, the famous crap drawers we all have in the kitchen and another of Tony’s pet peeves… grand designs. Enjoy Please subscribe, follow, and leave a review. xxx You can find us in all places here; https://podfollow.com/lifewithnat/view INSTA: @natcass1 We're also on Facebook now too: https://www.facebook.com/lifewithnatpod A 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] SHOW INFO: Life with Nat - it’s me! Natalie Cassidy and I’ll be chatting away to family, friends and most importantly YOU. I want to pick people's brains on the subjects that I care about- whether that’s where all the odd socks go, weight and food or kids on phones. Each week I will be letting you into my life as i chat about my week, share my thoughts on the mundane happenings as well as the serious. I have grown up in the public eye and have never changed because of it. Life with Nat is the podcast for proper people. Come join the community. ♥️ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Get groceries delivered across the GTA from Real Canadian Superstore with PC Express. Shop online for super prices and super savings. Try it today and get up to $75 in PC Optimum Points. Visit Superstore.ca to get started. Welcome to Life with Nat. Today we're going to be talking about scones and which way the jam and cream goes. And loo roll and don't worry my mum swears more than you do that's a message from devon and chester and laura again from northamptonshire your biggest fans

oh thank you so much devon and chester and laura I'm so pleased I got to hear your amazing impression of me. It was super duper. We might not talk about Luerol tonight, boys. We might mention the odd scone. Welcome to Life With Nat. I am here tonight and I'm joined by my brother, Tony. How are you? I'm fine, how are you? Yeah,

yeah. All good, all good. They were good, weren't they? Yeah, very good, yeah. I think they could take over you know Morgana Robinson's place possibly possibly

I think scone and jam is the done we've done that now to death really haven't we well there's been a lot

of messages about it someone sent me from the Tesco magazine Tone the great debate right jam or cream

first on the scone or scone 63 percent say jam vindicated there you go yeah that's it it's definitely if it's in the tesco magazine it's job done job done yeah it is the foundation absolutely so that's it we don't need to talk about it no more no more that's it're done. That and bog rolls were finished. How have you been? I've not seen you for a couple of weeks. Yeah, all right. Busy.

Yeah. You know, summer's always nice in my game because there's no traffic on the roads and you've got no school runs to contend with if you've got to run to jobs and stuff. So, yeah, temperature drop. What does that mean in your game? Well, it means you go from wearing shorts and waking up hopefully to a nice sunny monday morning and if you're outside it's nice and you're worrying about you know do i wear a hat today and how much stuff have i got a slap on to stop me getting burnt to uh this morning when it was about eight degrees so it was a little bit yeah it was a bit of a

rude awakening this morning and uh one of my lads mark Mark, he's been away for a week with his wife. They went to Croatia. And I spoke to him first thing this morning, and his first words were, it's bloody freezing. It was. Because it's about 25 degrees different to what he's been used to for a week. It was nippy this morning. Yeah, yeah.

So it's all changed and you feel the season's changing you know you've got cold mornings and warmish days yes but you know it's all changing now and we're going into winter which i absolutely detest yeah we're very different there yeah you try working in a loft conversion in winter i think you might change your mind i think that's yeah i understand that's the problem if you're working if i'm working in a property and it's we've got some windows it's not so much the heating it's mainly when you haven't got any windows or you're not in a roof of it whistling through the scaffolding and stuff yeah then it's not too bad but yeah we've we do have jobs in the in the winter

where you've got you're literally you know it's like so and if you're in a house with no windows and it's cold it's like a fridge yeah it's even worse yeah yeah yeah i bet so uh in terms of the seasons then in terms of not liking the winter forget the job yeah in your seasons what's your favorite do you not like the dark i don't like the dark nights and i'm not i don't like boiling hot weather i'll be quite honest with you know the other week we had two days it was 34 or something stupid and that's just too warm and for me you know in in my life and what i do i like it dry and temperate so for me that's you know anywhere from 17 to 22 is lovely so i like the spring and i like the autumn yeah yeah um Rain's a massive issue of what we do. You know, if you're working outside and you're trying to do brickwork or groundworks

and, you know, it's like the Somme, you've got mud everywhere, it's terrible. So if we get some dry winters, that's nice. And you can never tell, we've had Augusts that are wet every day and we've had a January where we've not had any rain. Yeah, it's funny, isn't it? I feel like people forget when it comes to the weather. We're obsessed as a country about the weather that's all we talk about

I talk about it all the time actually but I do feel we every year are saying the same thing you go oh I can't believe we've not had much of a summer yes you go well you were getting everyone last year or the year before I can't believe it's this warm in September it's always warm in September I know yeah can't believe it's this cold in January it's like finding Nemo you know Dory

just forget everything that's right water's wet you know same old thing isn't it yeah absolutely because you've been

talking about your job yeah I threw out a little message okay to say if anyone's got any questions for you all right okay yeah to do with houses building decorating that sort of thing let us know now disclaimer this is absolutely genuine anything that i read out now and tony has a chat about

is not the gospel no i'm not an expert no i've got i left school at 16 straight into the industry so i've got 40 years behind me but i don't proclaim to be an expert in anything really but i've got quite a lot of experience and if i can impart a little bit of help to people i'm glad to do it but it's not secure professional advice and you can't sue us no so if someone decides to do something as a result of what we said and it doesn't work i'm afraid that's uh that's down to them yeah fair enough but you wish you could say that on the job yeah a lot of stuff i'd do to be honest but oh dear so what we got we have got loads on scones hang on a minute minute. Oh, don't. Don't. I wish I'd never brought that up now.

I know. I'll tell you what, before we go on to that. Suzanne. Yes. Sent us a lovely selfie of herself. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Hello, Suzanne.

She was out on a lovely walk. Nice green behind her, nice fields. Lovely. And she said, walking with Nat and T and tone in the lakes life is 59 and complicated i really need this time getting out tone needs his own schedule of podcasts wow isn't that great well i've only been doing it two minutes but it's lovely for you to say it's nice yeah it is nice yeah do you know what i think if anything can help people when they are a little bit she's saying 59 and complicated obviously stuff going on in her life you know that's it

yeah and anything that gives people a little respite even if it's me babbling on about whatever or us talking about whatever we talk about it's so nice it's lovely it really is and i know you've got a few messages like that and i've and it really does it amazes me really that people listen and enjoy it not yeah but i it what amazes me is is that i think life is so complicated these days so difficult and everyone has got trials and tribulations and family issues and work problems and whatever i think it's just a if if people can This is what it is. For half an hour, 45 minutes, whatever it might be, and just forget what's going on. I was having a chat.

Anyone famous? No. No one famous. Oh, right, okay. Just Kylie Minogue. No, no, no. It's Kylie Minogue. I've told her to stop phoning me, actually.

I know she keeps ringing me and ringing me. Drive me mad. Now, she texted me the other day. I just said, could you leave off, please? I'm trying to do some tiling here, Kylie, and now leave me alone. So I think I've frightened her off. Now that's not true but uh i wish it was but it's not but i i was saying you get a lot of podcasts that have a structure which is great yeah you know be it off menu where it's you know your food or i just did memory lane with kerry godleman who's an absolute fan what a girl

and jen brister brilliant and it's all you pick five photos and you were in there did a little bit of chat um but i think the messages i'm getting and the reason people like this is it's very varied and there's something for everyone it's a bit of a pick and mix yeah yeah so you know people might like us people like me and linda to having a chat aren't you linny yeah then there's me and the girls which is sort of younger and fashion and whatever and it's just i feel like my audience is really wide ranging yeah and i love that yeah i love that there's 28 year olds that listen to it and i love that there's 60 year olds that listen to it absolutely yeah brilliant it's good isn't it it's really really good yeah anyway enough about me that's all right

banging on this is really nice from rachel right hi net wanted to let you know that your podcast has kept me company whilst writing a 6 000 word nursing assignment i'm also a single parent i love the pod as it makes me feel like i'm having a chat with a mate when i'm a bit lonely rachel from harlow you're down the road love yeah she only 10 minutes only up the road yeah we'll have to get a coffee yeah pop in and see us i just said get a coffee by the way he's gonna rip me over the head with an hammer in a minute i meant have a coffee what a stinker i'll be honest it wasn't can i get was it that's that's the worst so get a cup yeah it's a bit it's not great it's not great is it no there we go and the problem is we can all fall into it it's easy i think the odd like will get into a sentence

when you don't mean it if everyone's talking like it's really difficult to sort of hold back and not, but. It is. Anyway. Yeah. So, but you can pop in and have a coffee. Tell you where they don't say, can I get a coffee? Go on. I went today, you know, like a bit of art.

Yes. I had a spare hour. And I wandered into the Royal Academy of Art on Piccadilly opposite Fortnum and Mason's. Fabulous. I was thinking about getting a membership for a members club. Right, okay. So you've got Soho House, you've got the Groucho Club, and they're about £1,200 to £1,500 a year. Right, okay.

Really, they are glorified watering holes. They're pubs, really, you know, members bars. They're a bit poncy. You get the old famous person in them and they're extortionate. But I was thinking about it because I'm in town a bit more now and I'm meeting up with people. Is that also, is there sort of a no phone, no picture policy in those places as well?

So you can, you get left alone a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. However, I went into the Royal Academy, saw a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. However. Go on. Went into the Royal Academy. Mm-hmm.

Saw a lovely exhibition. Did that. Had a wander. Had a cup of tea. Members room. Have a look through. And I remembered, I used to be a member there a long time ago. Right.

It's got the most fantastic coffee shop bar. It's got the most fantastic coffee shop bar. It's got a restaurant upstairs. And it's full of people who just want to walk around and look at art. Couldn't care less who you were. 150 quid for the year. Signed up. No brainer. Really lovely.

Yeah. In the middle of town. Yeah. And it's a really lovely place to be. I was proud of myself. Well done, yeah? Yeah. Amazing. Saved a bit lovely place to be. I was proud of myself. Well done, yeah? Yeah. Amazing.

Saved a bit of money. Yeah, and got what you want, which is a little bit of an oasis in a sea of whatever you want to call it, really. There's a lot going on down there. And sometimes you don't want to be in a position where you feel a little bit exposed if people know who you are. And we've been out, haven't we? Yes, yeah. And sometimes it's fine. Sometimes it's good. People are really nice. Of yes yeah and sometimes it's fine sometimes it's good um people

really nice and then sometimes it's not so good you know sometimes it can be a little bit intrusive yeah and and i just need somewhere to go and sit and if i meet up with someone or talk about work or what have you i thought this is a great idea yeah i understand that i mean we went to the original ivy before didn't we and i liked it in there because there is a please don't approach people, don't take photographs, because we've been eating before, and people have just, like, we're in the middle of our starter, and people have just walked up and, like, said, can I have an autograph? I know.

You're in the middle of eating your starter. I know. And I know you don't mind, because you're always very, very good with anyone like that, but sometimes people don't, they forget that you're actually, you are a person yourself. Not in the telly. You're not in the telly yeah and you're not you're not just there to take a photo a selfie or an autograph or whatever and so i understand it can be intrusive and you need a little bit of respite from that sometimes when it when it does happen definitely so i like it in there yeah lovely yeah now i've said it probably people might pop in and have a look for me if they do you know come and say hello yeah come and say hello come and have a look in a controlled

environment yeah a really quiet one a quiet controlled environment where people say please may i have a coffee please yes and not can i get yeah Stop sitting on your Aeroplan points and get big savings so you can be somewhere you actually want to be, like on a beach. Right now, you can save up to 25% in Aeroplan points when you book a trip to one of 180-plus Air Canada destinations worldwide. So stop sitting on your next trip and start saving on one. Don't miss out. Your chance to save in points ends February 23rd. Book at aircanada.com. Conditions apply. Have a listen to this one. Hi Anna, it's Jo here from Bristol. I just wanted to say how much I am

loving the pods with your brother Tony and the pods with Mark. It's really nice to get a man's perspective on things, I think. And on a side note, my husband always says he much prefers having a chat with a woman than watching TV. It's me again. I get cut off all the time. I can't work technology. Don't worry.

It happens to all of us. But yeah, what he was saying was, yeah, my husband always says he much prefers to have a chat with a woman i think just because i don't know more emotionally intelligent there you go i would agree with that yeah so is it general i mean we're generalizing aren't we but yeah i think yeah but you hit a bit of a chord there because you're honest when we had that chat yeah and people really went well i really appreciated that yeah that you're happy to say that you know you were comfortable enough we had that chat. Yeah. And people really went, well, I really appreciated that. Yeah. That you're happy to say that. You know, you were comfortable enough to come out and say, I like being in a room full of women.

Yes, because I feel for me, I'm more comfortable. I think it is the emotional intelligence thing to some extent. And I just find sometimes that a room full of blokes is a bit, it's just a bit much. Yeah. You know, just before that testosterone starts flying about as well god yeah yeah yeah it's it can be a bit of a it just gets worse that's right yeah it's all that and it's worse and worse so so it's nice that someone's uh yeah someone's come back with that it's lovely it's like a room full of rob

beckett's at an arsenal game joking love you beckett hi nat it's maria from winchfield where's winchfield i ain't got a clue nice nice sound lovely it sounds lovely it sounds like it should be near winchester winchester or i'd go um oh yorkshire or something winchfield winchfield yeah i've no idea geography is not my thing i've been chucked out in the third year, so I've got no chance. Yeah, I've got no idea. File of faxes are still all the rage with my husband, Alan. 2024 and he's still using one. We both love your pods and it's always a race on who listens first. Would love a mention as we're celebrating our 25th wedding anniversary next Wednesday.

Thank you for brightening up our Mondays and Thursdays. Well, Maria and Alan, happy wedding anniversary. Yeah, congratulations. Congratulations. And do you know something? It's just reminded me that it was yours

and I didn't text you or anything. That's all right, don't worry. I do forget. I know you do. I know you do, yeah. You're the 3rd of September. Correct. David and Linda are the 1st.

Yes. So I forgot both of you. That's all right. How many years was it? It was 30. Oh, it 3rd of September. Correct. David and Linda are the 1st. Yes. So I forgot both of you. That's all right. How many years was it? It was 30. Oh, it was a big one. Well, yeah, I suppose so. Oh, how lovely.

It was 30 years, yeah. Did you do anything or too busy at the moment? Yeah, a bit busy. Yeah, I feel it was just too much going on, really. And we were going to do something and then something happened and we didn't. So I think we just went gonna do something and then something happened and and we didn't so i think we i mean we just went up we just went up the top and had a had a bite to eat yeah and yeah and a couple of drinks really so um but it is an amazing thing now to be married that

long i think it is yeah i think it is i mean that's a whole different subject on its own yeah almost yeah i just think you've really got to work at it yeah and not walk away when it gets a bit difficult yeah you know and it does at times living with people i'm a nightmare at times and i think you know most people will admit that if they've been married a while i think anyone that says they haven't had ups downs and downs i don't believe them unless i don't know unless it's adam and eve or someone like that but i think they had a rough patch didn't they but you know what i mean it's sort of i just don't believe that i think i think if you're human and you've got feelings and you've got emotions then you that's all going to come into play and and yeah i just think we've

you've just got to work it yeah you know and and I'm glad we have because we're yeah we're still going strong and that's really and that's really good so I'm quite proud of it I'm super proud I think it's amazing yeah

yeah brilliant I saw the wedding video we've got a wedding video that we had done when we got married it's in the back of a drawer somewhere I won't be able to watch it

because I'll cry my eyes out because everyone's dead on it yeah mum and dad and you know nanny and yeah you know I mean mother and on it mum and dad and you know nanny and you know my mother

Bernie's mum and you know lots and lots of people are not here anymore so I don't think I could ever watch it but it was funny I opened the drawer

sort of the day before and I was rifling around you know that crap drawer that everyone's got yeah the crap drawer sewing needles oh don't

what is yours some old screwdrivers 167 iPhone chargers we don't use anymore. Cocktail sticks. Cocktail sticks. Old photographs. Paper clips. Beer bottle tops?

No, no. That have been left in there? No, no beer bottle tops. Oh, okay. Paper clips of different sizes. Yeah. Lots of old silk that you tie things up with. I don't know what that was all about.

Yeah. I think it was a packet of playing cards in there. Matches? Might be some matches in there, yeah. Probably a candle or two, just in case we have a power cut. Yeah, tea lights. Tea lights. There were definitely some tea lights in there.

Yeah, yeah. Any ticket stubs, that sort of thing in there? No, no, there was none of that in there. It was very much, I think it was all stuff that you would use if you were stranded on a desert island. Understood. Yeah, so it's all useful stuff okay

but crap well it's better than my drawer because the things I just mentioned are in mine right okay people that

open the drawer and have a beer yeah but they leave the beer bottle top in there yeah I don't really understand

that yeah 150,000 elastic bands of every shape and size they're useful though you don't need 100,000 of them

well I'm always looking for an elastic band maybe i'll have half and then i'll never go without elastic band you can have some i'm always looking for that i've got um the bureau in there yeah it was dad's there's you can have it he used to make a habit of making a ball yeah i remember yeah yeah yeah i'm sure it's in there right i could take that home. I can take that home. All the elastic bands. All the elastic bands in the world, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And it's interesting. With your crap drawer, I call it, or your rubbish drawer,

and everyone's got one, it doesn't matter how many times you clear it out, I can never, ever shut it. There's always something in there that stops it from shutting, always. Right, yeah. And I think, well, I've cleared that out, or Sharon's cleared it out, and she's had a good go, and I'm trying to shut it, and something's stopping it, and then there's this errant screwdriver that's about nine inches long that shouldn't be in there that's stopping it from shutting that's true though isn't it it is

the drawer i'm talking about it's even worse than a crap drawer because it's the utensil drawer which suddenly has then become oh full of shit oh my god i can't do that it's really really bad no no no no you can't mix utensils with your rubbish no it's really bad i'm gonna have to sort it out later no don't worry i'm getting it i'm gonna sort it i am gonna sort it i promise you and you know i'm a clean person all got out of hand but i've got a big tin uh a cake tin if you like massive and it started out with we'll put our keys in here right okay and the wi-fi code yes and then the knitted poppy went in in november i've got to show you it later i'll take a picture

um for instagram put it on there it is filled with broken sunglasses old batteries hair bands safety pins all of that sort of stuff. But I've got a tin. Right, okay. So let us see pictures of your crap drawers. Yeah. Not crappy drawers, please. Rubbish drawers. Your drawers with rubbish.

Oh, God, it sounds terrible. Every time you say it, it sounds even worse. I know. Oh, Harold. Oh, dear. Carry on. I'm not showing you my rubbish drawers. Well, carry on, yeah. Yeah, I think everyone will have a drawer like it. Yeah. Carry on. I'm not showing you my rubbish drawer. I want to carry on, yeah.

Yeah, I think everyone will have a drawer like it. Yeah. And it would just be interesting. Probably, I think the thing to ask is what's the strangest thing that you've got? Very good. In your rubbish drawer. Yeah, I like it. Or your kitchen drawer that's got all the crap in it. What's the strangest thing in there?

I mean, has it got someone's ashes in it or something like that? You know, there must be drawers out there that have got some really odd stuff in them yeah i agree with you yeah but i've got a little cupboard with daddy's ashes i know yeah but that's next to his glass and scotch exactly i know so that's that's a little sort of in there yeah that's a little shrine to dad isn't it yeah it's different i don't think yeah takeaway menus in yours? Takeaway menus? In the drawer. Yeah, I mean, we've actually, we've sort of got another drawer for that, which is keys, change. Hang on.

He's got two crap drawers. We've only got four drawers in the entire kitchen, and two of them are full of shit, basically. No, this is true. So we've got, this gets really complicated now, so I'll be as quick as possible. No, I like it. So we've got the crap drawer that's got all the stuff in it that you never use.

Which would be good on a desert island. It would be good on a desert island. Yeah. And then there's the other drawer, which is what I would say it's our daily drawer. So when I come into work, I put my wallet in there. I put my keys in there. Yeah. There's spare van keys in there for other vans that the business has got.

Okay. Change goes in there so once a year we work out there's about two pound furs worth of one and two pennies in there and stuff like that there's probably some old credit cards in there old store cards there's there's a checkbook from about 1987 i think because no one's used the cheque since then the menus there's the menus the takeaway menus right

so that's so what I would say is that's a draw that's it's got a load of crap in it but it's used regularly yes it's used every single day

that draw is used but it could do with a little sort out probably yeah and we probably do it once a year around Christmas like in between Christmas

and New Year you know when it's that dead space and no one knows what to do no one knows what day it is yeah that's it yeah we might sort of have a look at it through at that point uh there's an old diary in there with all the numbers of people that are dead in it now you know that we used to phone once in a blue moon but then they're not here anymore

um yeah so it's that sort of um it's that sort of scenario so it's not the it's not the desert island draw it's the day-to-day put your shit in it draw. Okay, fair enough. It's like keys and all that sort of stuff. Yeah, yeah, I understand. It's somewhere for stuff to live. Yeah. I think people are going to love this chat.

Well, I mean, it's relevant to everybody. I think so. I think it must be. I mean, unless you, you know, let Michelle and I draw. What about your carrier bags? Because I like this conversation. Well, they can be sometimes. Do you do bags in a bag in a bag in a bag and they're shoved somewhere?

Yes. So it can be covered under the stairs. Okay, yeah. Yeah. Or sometimes it's under the sink. Yeah. But it's normally covered under the stairs. Yeah.

But I think now we've got all these bags for life and canvas bags and all the rest of it. They tend to reside in the boot of the car mostly. What, the canvas stuff? Yeah. Oh, agreed. Me too too otherwise you think i mean i don't do a lot of shopping i don't because i just don't i'm not about to do you know sharon does it during the day and stuff so but a lot of the time it's in like they're in the boot of the car agreed yeah i've still got a lot of carrier bags mine uh i have a cupboard where the water tank sits right okay so like the immersion a cupboard or yeah and i put my uh washing stuff on there yeah and then there's a corner which is minuscule and i seem to shove them very tightly in that corner where there's no room so there's about 40 bags so that's quite an interesting point because it's all out on me yeah in my

business life, I very often have to go in the cupboard under the stairs that someone, they've got a cupboard under the stairs, obviously most people. And I've got to get in there to get to a fuse board or turn the gas on and off or whatever it might be. I don't work on gas, by the way, but sometimes my plumber has to get in there

and turn the gas off or whatever. And we have to clear the cupboard out to get in there to work. And there's time, have found honestly just just probably 200 carrier bags yeah and probably i'd say almost every time i go into someone's understairs cupboard to do some work enough to clear it out there's almost always christmas wrapping paper in No. That they've probably forgotten about. Almost always. Really? Yes. Yeah.

Yeah. So it's carrier bags, plastic bags, Christmas wrapping paper, and then some other stuff. Who else has got Christmas wrapping paper under the stairs? Because for me, everything to do with Christmas goes away.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, honestly, and I think what it is, people stuff it under, after Christmas, they'll stuff it in their thing, and I'll what it is, people stuff it, after Christmas, they'll stuff it in their thing, I'll do something like that. Do that later.

And then it stays there and never gets moved until some electrician goes or someone or a plumber goes in there and sort of has to have a mooch about, you know. Have you ever done a cupboard which has taken you quite a long while to clear? Yeah. Before going in and you're thinking, I'm not a decluttering service.

Yeah, I mean, it happens a lot. You'd be amazed. We say to people, well, we're starting work, you know, in and you're thinking, I'm not a decluttering service. Yeah, I mean, it happens a lot. You'd be amazed. We say to people, well, we're starting work in two weeks' time, so could you please make sure that that's clear and that's clear. Ready for us. And you turn up that day and they've done sod all, basically. Right, right. Yeah, we had one.

We did a job ages ago for an old lady, a lovely old girl, and we had to get into her cupboard under the stairs, and she had tins of food that were 30 years old. Right. Where she just stocked them up and never used them. Was she ready for, what do you call it? What? An apocalypse type thing.

Well, I don't think she was. No, I don't think she had guns and stuff like that. Right. And sort of six million litres of water. No? No, I don't think so. I think it was more that she just bought stuff and forgot she had it oh bless her bless her so we was it was interesting because

we've taken all these tins out and they were honestly on the dates on them sort of 1978 1982 1985 and i was still still in her cupboard and we just put them all back when we finished did you didn't have the heart to say this looks out of date like yeah you can't say that so um so yeah but yeah it happens quite a lot we've we've gone in to do loft conversions where the loft's supposed to be clear and you don't honestly and you go in there and there's just just tons of stuff in there oh that's mad yeah that's mad yeah going back to tins yeah i reckon if i went downstairs now in the tin bit yeah of the cupboard yeah sort of corner cupboard and i've got like a swishy circular thing that moves yeah a little magic little magic cornery type yeah i reckon i could find a tin that

was at least four or five years old do you reckon i think i've got a small tin of dead salmon still downstairs right okay so that's got to be four years old yes probably yeah so i'm no different but i think the issue is is that if you've got cupboard space and you've got a magic corner and there's some there's a little crevice around there that you don't use a great do you just forget about stuff you do you know when you haven't got loads of covered cupboard space or you've only our tins go in a certain place and you can we know exactly what we've got yes yeah there's no hide in it because it's sort of all there at eye level and you know what it is we know what you need to replace or what have you exactly i think the more space you have you fill it yeah the more

crap you fill it up you fill it with more shit without a doubt if i give a bloke if i said to a bloke so i'm going down the bloke route here if i said i'll give you a shed that's six foot by six foot yeah or i said to him i'll give you a shed that's 16 foot by 16 foot. I guarantee you that in a year's time, there'd be as much crap in the 16 foot by 16 foot as there is in a 6 by 6. Because people just, if they've got space, they just fill it, people just fill it up. Well, I know I do because I did the lounge and I've had those cupboards built, haven't I?

They're all filled with stuff. That's right. And you've never had them before. So where's that all come from i don't know exactly i've got old newspapers from when the queen died that i've kept and i've put candles in there that i'm not using which actually is quite good but there'll be other things and i look in there and go i don't understand what i've done it's just modern modern life isn't it i mean we've got a loft isn't converted but we've got a loft um it's boarded out and it's clean and tidy and whatever up there so we use it for storage yeah and if i tell you i mean we've

been in the house 25 years ish i can't remember now exactly and we've probably emptied out the entire contents of china's cargo ships a couple of times into skips basically yeah where we have had so much stuff up there that i don't even know we've got it you know it's when you've got kids and you know you buy stuff and then you say i'll put it up there put it up there put it up there and now it's full up again full with rubbish i don't even know what half of it is and we regularly clear it out you know probably every few years it's crazy it's just modern life isn't it you know people don't we just buy whatever yeah we'll buy stuff and if get it tomorrow yeah and if and if it doesn't work we won't try and fix it

you know we'll just stick that up there in case we might be able to do something with it once upon time get a new one mark's very good though like that the loft's very good he's quite meticulous yeah which is nice yeah it is garage is in order yeah yeah yeah workshops his workshop yes it's filled but with stuff he needs yeah yeah he's quite good at all of that so that's his sort of forte that he gets on with which i'm grateful for yeah absolutely yeah you can't yeah i say i'm the one going to whack that in the loft because what for no don't because we're going to not know where everything is and it'll end up being a mess and we don't need to do that well i once read somewhere i can't remember where it was or someone said to me if you haven't used

it in six months you're never going to use it again that's right and i think that's probably true they say the same about clothes yeah fashion if you haven't looked at it for six months to a year i think you know or something you should just you know put it on vintage yeah do something with it do something with it because you're not going to put it on. No, no. I think it's different if you've got a nice smart suit. You know. Yeah. You know, the classic sort of

the funeral outfit that you get out every now and again. Yeah. Yeah, I had mine out last week. Yeah, for that. Yeah, the funeral outfit. Yeah. So I've got,

yeah, I mean, I've got a funeral suit. I thought you've got to have one at a certain age, haven't you? Because you find yourself going to more and more of them. So, but I know what you mean.

I know what you mean. There's a few things. Yeah. You know, I'll have a couple of evening dresses., but I know what you mean. I know what you mean. There's a few things. Yeah. You know, I'll have a couple of evening dresses. Yeah. Sometimes I won't wear it for a year, but that will come around again. And I'm pleased I've got that long dress for an awards do.

Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. You know. Yeah. I haven't got that same problem, I must admit. No. I might have the same jacket that I'll wear to go down a pub once

in a blue moon, but that's about it. Yeah. Right. So, a few little questions for you. Go on then. Here we go. Far away.

This is from Joe. Okay. Remember what we said. You can't sue us if you take Tony's advice. We're just having a chat. It's a podcast. Hi Nat, just saw your message about questions for your brother and yes I have one in the wetter months I am getting black mold creeping in on

my ceiling it's against an outside wall I live in a bungalow as a single parent and I don't really want to spend a fortune on different workmen to check the walls roof and loft is there anything i can do from joe okay right so joe has said during the wetter months now if she means the colder months when it's wet yeah that's one potential answer if it's any time it's wet that's another potential answer go for it so if it's any time when's wet, that's another potential answer. Go for it. So if it's any time when it rains, she may have a little leak. Right. Somewhere. But normally that wouldn't just manifest itself as mould. You would get brown discolouration on the ceiling.

You would have, if it's wallpaper, you'd have wallpaper peeling off. You would see it if there was water coming in. So because it's black mold i don't think it would be a leak okay so but we don't know that we don't know that for certain without going to seeing it and so all of this stuff is obviously i haven't been seeing it so it's quite difficult so with a lot of properties of a certain age they were all built with solid walls okay so what you have is you end up with something called cold bridging. And what that means is that during the colder months,

there isn't a great temperature differential between the outside and the inside. So when it's warm, the outside is a certain temperature because it's warm. It's warm out and whatever. But once the temperature plunges, that wall gets very cold outside, but it also can get cold on the inside and at that point if it's if if you've got um you've got naturally got moisture in houses when people breathe when they cook bath exactly that can create a condensation problem and if the temperature is right then that creates mold okay so i've seen properties for instance where mold is quite prevalent and it's normally because of that and also lack of ventilation so again you know people

when they had double glazing fitted as and when decided it was a good idea not to have any air vents in the property people blocked up air vents they didn't have any air vents in they didn't have any trickle vents in the windows so what they're doing is they're hermetically sealing their house if you like from any ventilation okay and that coupled with a lack of insulation gives you these problems i see that's not the only reason there's a number of there are a number of reasons that can create it yeah it sounds to me like joe's got that problem so maybe a bit of ventilation well my mother and father-in-law have got a house very much like that right and over a period of time in the winter they had what looked like water coming in and they were adamant that they had water coming it was condensation all the roof and i

said to him this is condensation yeah so what we did was we bought a small dehumidifier yes right and they're available online yeah mark's got one in the workshop exactly so and they're there and and so what they do is when that air becomes too moist i think it's over 55 relative humidity i don't exactly but it will start to take the moisture out of the air condense it and put it in a tray and you just empty the tray every day yeah so my advice joe would be without going down the route of expensive tradesmen and roofers and all the rest of it is get a small dehumidifier probably get one amazon john lewis all those places will do them probably 120 to 150 pounds yeah and that hopefully will help with the with the humidity in the mold

problem fingers crossed fingers crossed fingers crossed yeah Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed. Yeah. And one last thing is as well, these houses are not great when you wallpaper the walls and ceilings because they can't breathe and you get moisture behind the wallpaper and that can cause problems as well. I see. But I think for her specific issue,

I would try to dehumidify it and see if it works. Right. Joe, let us know how you get on with it, please. Yeah. It would be really interesting. It would. I mean, because it worked for Bernie and Sylvie's. Yeah.

Okay. Now, because their house is solid, I bought this little dehumidifier and it's perfect. They don't get any problems anymore. You know, their house is lovely. We've redecorated it all. It looks beautiful now. Yeah, yeah.

And they don't get that issue that they used to get. Yeah, lovely. And it's really lovely now. Oh, that's good's good that's very good here's a lovely little message look hi nut struggling with a few back health issues at the minute so is tony i've missed lots of episodes currently catching up whilst trying to walk to gain some strength to get back to work teaching all right feels like i'm having a walk with friends with the pod chattering in my ears you're doing a great job distracting me and i'm walking further every day because i'm laughing and chatting out loud to you my baby has just returned to uni for her third year and after i'd had my usual cry she drove away i don my headphones and walk with you and the girls thanks nat not

sure you know how much you helped. Well, what a lovely message. What a really nice message. So thank you so much. Yeah, brilliant. So, so much. Brilliant. Another little question.

Go on. My best mate has just bought a property that needs a complete rip-out job. As a single parent, her budget is very slim. Right. She's going to have to do it in bite-sized pieces. Okay. She was thinking windows, front door, little roof over the door, which is collapsing,

and ripping out an interior wall between the kitchen and dining room first, but isn't sure if this is the best place to begin. Okay. Where should she start with the renovation using the budget she has roughly 25 grand okay i mean this is it's quite a big question isn't it really it is so she's single parent and she's got kids or has she got kids well yeah yeah you're sorry obviously yes she's got one a child or children yeah yeah and she's on her own so it depends for me that the key for this sort of thing is what sort of doer-upper is

it so is the bathroom and kitchen serviceable well i mean she said she has brought a property that needs a complete rip-out job that's fine. But depending on how your two most used rooms are. Yeah. Will normally depend on the way you will do things. Right. Okay. So if the kitchen and the bathroom are serviceable. Right.

Not brilliant, but serviceable. You can use them. You can use them and she can put up with them for the next couple of years. Yeah. It's going to be, it's not great. She's got a sink. She's got a washing machine. She's got another that works.

She's got a bath that works and a toilet that works and all the rest of it. Right. I would suggest that you start with the basics and you make everything safe, secure, watertight. So that would be, for me, if the windows are knackered do the windows yeah um if you've got a roof that's collapsing get that done yeah basically what she said this is not a cop-out but this is what i would say yeah i would then do the structural work if she wants to do that and then any rewiring and replumbing that needs doing up to a point of the bathroom and say

the kitchen it's very complicated of course it is yeah yeah it's difficult listen we're only having yeah so but that's my suggestion is that if if the amenity rooms kitchen and bathroom is serviceable then she looks to do the basics right early and then in a few years time if she wants to do the kitchen she can do that with a you know she can go to somewhere and get a bit of, you know, credit for the, you know, 0% finance helper with the units. Yes.

Because they're the most expensive rooms, basically. You know, so that would be my suggestion. But if the bathroom and the kitchen are unlivable, that's different. Then she's got to try and decide what she can do in order to live in the property. In a usable manner. In a usable manner yeah yeah okay so it's quite a difficult one but for me always if you can i see people going in and they they'll start sort of they'll do a bedroom up and they'll re-plaster it all and they'll make their bedroom nice and then they start rewiring it and then you know then you're smashing holes in things and chasing boxes in walls and the carpets all rotten and stuff so it's it normally is get the very very basics right then do the kitchen then do the bathroom

and even then only then worry about carpets and stuff like that because nine times out of ten this is all stuff that's going to get ruined if you're doing major building work and of course of course. You know. Hallways last, don't it, upstairs, really? Generally, yeah. I mean, again, you sort of work, ideally you work top down. If you're doing a full refurb and you haven't got a budget issue, you normally start from top down and you make sure you're not doing stupid things.

Dragging bathrooms. Exactly. Old sinks down the new wooden floors yeah you don't yeah you exactly you don't you don't do all your whole way up and then start doing your bathroom on the first floor and stuff because you're going to end up messing it up and doing it all again so but it is a very it depends on personal circumstance in that particular situation you know no fair do's funny thing i'll tell you what made me come to this thought we're talking about you working

yeah hallways and i know that you have the radio on yes this is all going on in my head yeah i'm listening to you by the way that's fine greg james radio one right okay yesterday morning he he did a week driving to school doing the the school run. Joni's in the back. Eliza's in the front. Eliza says, she's driving me mad, all of that going on. And Greg James goes, and we're doing siblings. Why does your sibling get on your nerves? So Eliza went, oh, I wish I could ask him.

I said, I've got his number on my phone. Voice note him. So she went, hello, Greg. Hi, Greg. It's Natalie Cassidy's daughter here, Eliza, and Joni. And my sister drives me mad. And I hope you're OK. And that was that.

Anyway, I dropped Eliza to school. I said, bye, darling. Got her out of the car. As soon as we drove off, he played the message. So thanks for that, Greg. Excellent. So that was quite nice. But yeah, what radio are you listening to at the moment?

Where are you? Because you change, don't you? I do, yeah, flip and flop a little bit. I'll be honest, I'm listening to Greatest Hits at the moment. Oh, okay. Because it's, I like the morning show with Rossi. Send to Ken and he does what year, you know, I guess the year and stuff like that.

Yeah, yeah. Then Ken Bruce is on it mid-morning which is a no-brainer i love him don't you yeah just love it love pop master yeah he's great music um and then the afternoon sometimes i get a bit solely for me yet they play tend to play a little bit more so i'm not really my cup of tea no more sort of an 80s, seventies, eighties rock and roller, you know, and a bit of nineties and a bit of sixties. And then, and then we're sort of packing up, we start packing up sort of our four.

So it's just a little, we're just a little way into the drive time show with Simon and whatever, you know? So yeah, I was sort of used to listen to talk sport a lot, but, and still do sometimes depending on when the mood takes me. I love Hawksby and Jacobs, Paul Hawksby. I was actually on the show with James once sport a lot, but, um, and still do sometimes depending on when the mood takes me. I love Hawksby and Jacobs,

Paul Hawksby. I was actually on the show with James once upon a time, one Christmas Eve. Brilliant. Um, and Paul lives around our way. He lives, I think he's,

he was Grange Park. So he's just around the corner from us. How's the football season going? You, you into it? Are you watching it? I mean, I haven't,

I said last season when it ended, I thought I really would like to sort to get into it a little bit more and just haven't had the time. I will start watching a few Arsenal games, but how's it been? A bit of a mixed bag, really. Yeah, it's been all right. A decent win against Villa. Drew to Bryant.

A little bit lucky in the Villa game, I think. We could have been one or two down before we scored. Bryant was a 1-1 Declan Rice sent off so just a yeah just not I don't think we've

I don't think we've set the world on fire you know in the first couple of free games or whatever now we've got massive injury crisis for the Spurs game

on Sunday oh no I think most of the first choice what you'd call first choice midfield is injured or Declan Rice is suspended because he got sent off.

Can I ask you how footballers can be injured when they've just started back? Well, I think you get injured at any time. Yeah. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You know, because like Martin Odegaard, captain, can't remember the last time he was injured. He's played for Norway.

So we've had three games back and then there's been this international break a load of glorified friendlies I think it is basically, National, what is it, Nations League, I don't know what it is to be honest and Odegaard's gone out playing he's played for Norway and he's done his ankle he was on crutches and you know so things like that

happen so I think players can get injured at any time and they're highly trained athletes at the end of the day. But I think there's some that are more injury prone. I mean, you look at our boy, Bakayo Saka. I mean,

they kick him to pieces every week. He's never injured. No, it's true. The boy must be, I don't know what he's made of. He must be made of, he must be made of aluminium or something or whatever.

He just, he just bounces off and they kick him. He gets up again and gets on with it. Amazing. And there's other players in the league like it that are, there's players that have, you know, for other clubs that have played every minute of a premier league

season which is incredible given what they do but there's other players that are just you know they just get niggles and knocks and and it's just i think it's their physiology is it or whatever you call it it's just how they're made well it's interesting isn't it because joni obviously i broke two bones as a child. I broke my arm twice. And Joni has now broken four. We've been in hospital with Joni four times. She's just turned eight. She's done her collarbone twice by falling out of bed.

I mean, quite ridiculous. Falling out of bed, doing her collarbone. Yeah, I think it is. Then she's broken her arm, clean break. And then she's broken the same arm and smashed it to bits. Exactly what I did. And I have said, you know, when you're there, I think it is. Then she's broken her arm, clean break. Yeah. And then she's broken the same arm and smashed it to bits. Exactly what I did. Yeah. And I have said, you know, when you're there, I go, can I test her for brittle bones? But they're really not interested.

They said, listen, some people are prone to it. Kids come in here, they've broken three bones. Some people never break a bone. Yeah. It's if you fall awkwardly or... You're just prone to it. Just prone to it just prone to it i don't know i do worry i'm giving her some calcium supplements yeah well if that

makes you feel better whole milk have a glass of milk yeah sort of worries me a little but do you think what do you think about that i think um unless you're probably prepared to spend lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of money to see whether there's an issue. I think they just look at it as they just look at it as that. I've never broken a bone and I've done all sorts of stuff. Well, touch wood, yeah.

You know, as a kid, you do all sorts of stuff. And I remember kids that had broken an arm and broken a leg and broken this, and I've never touched wood. I've never, I've never broken anything. So just how you made, I don't think David has it. I don't I've never broken anything. So I think- How about David? Just how you're made.

I don't think David has it. I don't recall him ever breaking anything. No. I think it might just be how you're built. Yeah. And I do, yeah. Wear a couple of awkward annies. Yeah.

Basically. Yeah. I think. But then you have other issues. I've got muscle problems and tightness and all that sort of, which I think you've got as well. You had that when you was doing the marathons and you was having your massages and I said that to you. So sort of, which I think you've got as well. You had that when you was doing the marathons and he was having your massages

and I said, that's you. So that's a different thing that we've got that is not, you know, it's not related to breaking bones, but it's a different issue that causes pain or causes a problem, you know? So I think.

Yeah. I just wondered. So you've never broken bones. You're in David. No. None of the kids have. You have David's kids no

Dominic did but that was a rugby injury so it was quite bad yeah I mean but that's rugby you know it's kind of sport like you say

contact sport but James and Evie yeah James don't think Evie has James dislocated a finger at cricket yes which was brutal

again a sport yeah it was broken and dislocated where the ball came straight at him and hit him on the finger and pushed it all back into yeah bro it was broken and dislocated where the ball came straight at him and hit him on the finger and pushed it all back to into his hand it was terrible yeah yeah yeah yeah it was really not very nice at all um but no one sort of tripped up and smashed a bone to pieces no what's happening here no not just falling over and broken arm or no yeah saying that i'll probably break my leg tomorrow.

Yeah. We'll go down the stairs a bit. I'll talk over you. Yeah, that's right. We'll both end up in traction for six months. Laurel and Ardy. Yeah, no, I did want to ask you about it, but I have to say the hospital,

I do shout out for the children's bone department, the fracture clinic and all of that has been absolutely first class so thank you very much really really has been amazing

and what hospital was it that was Harlow Hospital they've been absolutely brilliant with Joni yeah big up to Harlow and you know the children's ward and everything

absolutely brilliant over there fantastic brilliant right last question for you okay hit me baby

please let me know if this goes down well because I'm very up for you know criticism and telling me if this is really boring we won't do it again

yeah but you don't know there is a danger but it might it might strike a chord with a few people you don't know people might think

it's helpful I'm hoping there's loads of people with you know with little patches of damp and stuff and thinking well I might just buy

dehumidifier for that during the winter and it'll help me out. Have you put one on Amazon or something? No, I should have done before it came on, shouldn't I? It's an absolute shocker, isn't it? Could have put one on. First one that comes up. Yeah, I know, yeah.

Could have got five or six. Might have sold eight. Not going to set the world alight. Myself, £28.50. Unbelievable. Yeah. A couple of pints, isn't it, in the the pub well i don't know i don't think it is anymore right last one question for your brother would it be costly to put a new roof with velux windows in place of a flat roof on my kitchen not asking for cost so much as the implications and the issues that may arise

whilst doing the job not a massive area i wondered what questions i would need to ask a builder or a roofer thanks in advance t right okay t um this is quite an interesting one because i've had a few of these recently where people um have had a a flat sorry i'm really enjoying this by the way okay i feel like we're on a radio i'm listening to a radio show and it's kind of tony's building moment right okay well go on carry on sorry that's fine that's fine as i say so i had one of these a couple of weeks ago a friend of mine phoned me and said i'm doing this job and they're looking to put they've got existing flat roof and

existing extension not enough light they want to put two velux windows in it what's the implication it's very very similar question so the implications are you can't just cut a hole and stick a velux window in it um as simple as that so when we build roofs with velux window flat windows in them so a flat roof for an extension yeah you would always double or triple up the timbers both ways around the window to strengthen the roof right in some situations we've actually have to put small stills in because if the span of the roof is over a certain span then we would put a small steel in to stop the deflection and make sure the roof is stable enough okay so all that would be done by our structural engineer right yeah so that's if you're building them into start if you want to

put stuff in retrofit it's always more expensive so you've got to start stripping the top of the strip the roof off outside and depending on the age of it you might not be able to put repatch it back you might have to be looking at if it's felt or something you might have to strip it all off and then put a new felt roof back you would then do do the same inside. You take the ceiling down inside. You might have some electrical issues there. You might have cables in the way. So you would then have to expose the ceiling timbers, rafters, from front to back.

Sounds like ever such a lot of work. Well, it is. And then you have to start cutting the roof about, putting extra timbers in. Yeah. Say doubling up around the roof light, tripling up around the roof light sometimes. Yeah.

So you're getting down the route of, you know, you're probably going to spend thousands of pounds doing this, not hundreds of pounds doing it. Yeah. And don't forget, with all this stuff, it's got to be done properly because if you do something like this and it was picked up on a survey if he's trying to sell the house and it wasn't to regulations building control uh building regs hadn't been done on it and checked on it you may have an issue when you sell the house if it was

ever picked up so i think it's quite a big job it's not a straightforward job it's not simply cutting a hole in a roof and that's in. Yeah, which people might think. And people, dodgy builders might do. DIYers might do it. Dodgy builders might do it. I've seen stuff you wouldn't believe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I could do a whole podcast on the stuff that I've seen

and I've heard and seen people do, but that's for another time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The only thing I would say is we have put a lot of VLux roof where there's loads of roof windows available flat roof windows and we also use their ones in their loft windows as well right vlux for me if you're thinking of doing anything like this on a new build for me they're probably the best we've come across because they do not leak the way that they're built into the structure the way the roof covering goes up the sides of them there's nowhere for them to leak no mold dirty yeah no mold so velux are excellent we try and use them wherever we can because we've had terrible

problems with other roof windows that rely on silicon and upstands just to stop them to stop the rain and the snow coming and stuff like that okay but so that's just an aside on the velux thing but um yeah not a straightforward job not straightforward no and likely to cost a good few quid i'm afraid keep the flat roof t yeah or move just keep the flat roof oh yeah move because that don't cost a lot of money no no put some more lights i don't look it's a difficult one because there's nothing like natural sunlight if you get natural sunlight in the space it can lifts it it makes it you know it makes it a million times better than what it was without it but go into it your eyes open and it isn't just a case of cutting a hole in the roof

and sticking a window in it do you like watching grand designs no it winds me up oh really drives me mad oh okay can't watch it okay there's a bloke on there was two blokes on there a couple of years ago they bought this bit of land next to a mill so it's waterlogged yeah and they were gonna build two houses on stilts or whatever they was gonna do yeah and he said what's your budget and he went 40 grand for the pair of them or something mad it just does me and then they start and then you know the neck then you go to the break and you do your adverts they come back and there's and so the next shot is of them all living in a caravan yeah pissing rain freezing cold with half built

stilts sticking out of a what was once a pond And they've run out of money. And they've run out of money. Yeah. There was some other bloke in Bright and spent nine million pounds or something and ruined his life. Building his bungalow into a rock that he had to... No, it was on top of an apartment block or something and he just said, I'm doing this and I'm going to do this project,

this mad round project and yeah yeah and he spent fortunes it cost him his marriage he fell out of all the neighbors because all was pissing through the roof into their downstairs and just some of it's lovely don't get me wrong some of the i mean kevin mcleod i don't know he puts up with it i do my because he because he knows yeah you know when they say and he says what's your budget for this and they say you know flump and say you can see him flinching. Yeah, you can see his eyes going and thinking, this is not going to end well, you know.

Any of those property programmes. He does it as well. Who's the estate agent? Kirsty and... Oh. Kirsty Allsop and... Oh. What's his name?

Yes. Though I love him. What's his name? Phil. Phil him what's his name phil phil phil and phil so they'll again you know i've watched bits and and phil will say you know and um there was one and he said uh well we think you should if you extend you know put a ground floor extension on and knock through this and do this and do that and such and such he said i've spoken to a local builder and he thinks you can do this for about 30 000 30 000 what guineas pieces of gold ain't 30 000 pounds that's for sure so that gets me a little bit as well because it's always the budget thing's always a big thing and and and yeah they

just and then gives everyone false hope watching it and the other one the brilliant one is Homes Under The Hammer have you seen that I've seen it in the past

yeah yeah again someone will buy somewhere and they'll spend nine months of their own time doing it up and they've got

all their friends to help them there's people in their weekends all for nothing and they buy it for 90 grand and they've got all their friends to help them there's people in their weekends all for nothing yeah and they buy it for 90 grand and they've they say how much have you spent on it and they've they've rewired it replumbed it replastered it put a new kitchen new bathroom new roof new windows new doors done the front garden what they say uh well we had a 17 000 pound budget and we've gone over by 500 quid and i'm thinking how on earth can you do all that for

that yeah yeah yeah and they don't tell you about all of the like the eight million man hours that goes unpaid because they've done it and their mates of course of course yeah and all of it is a little bit of a it's all a little bit of a facade i think a bit of a smokescreen yeah just being in the game i'm sorry i just know what this stuff costs and you you don't do that amount of work for that amount of money but there we are. Tony Cassidy's building show, The Truth. The Truth. Boom. Yeah.

It's a hundred million pounds. It's a hundred, yeah. That's going to be, you want a new bathroom, you have 70 grand. 70 grand. The Truth. The Truth, no. There's good and bad out there

and there's people that will do things for certain prices. I know people that have had stuff done and it's cheap and it's all right and it's not. Yeah. So you can, there's a whole, you know, there's a whole. It spans, doesn't it? It's massive. It's a big, big.

People say to me, they phone me up and say, I want to do this. How much is it going to cost? And the analogy I use with people spending money on their home is like a car. I say to people, well, how much is a a car I say to people well how much is a car and they go well it depends what car you buy is it a small one and a red one and got nothing on it or is it a big black one you know with massive engine and all the rest of it and one of them's 500 quid and one of them's 500,000 pounds and it's the same sort of thing you know if you're going to buy a car you've got a budget to buy that car you'll try and fit your budget to that car and your building work is the same yes and for some reason

people honestly think at times they can get um they're going to electric land rover discovery yeah for a Nissan Micra yeah yeah not quite as bad but you know I will speak to people and say what's your budget for this work and they'll tell me and I say you're not gonna not gonna do it you're not gonna touch it with that. No, no, fair enough. But it's good to be honest. I like to be honest with people because you never, if you lead people down the wrong path, on the understanding,

Well, it's only going to bite you in the backside. Of course it is and you'll end up raring with people and we don't do that. I don't do that. I try and be as honest and straight up as I can

and make sure people know what they're in for. I feel we're very honest people, actually, aren't we? I like to think so. Yeah. No, I think we, actually, aren't we? I like to think so. Yeah. No, I think we are. Yeah.

Yeah, I'd like to think so. It's straightforward, straight talking. Yeah. You know, it's good. It's a very good way to be. Well, I think it's how you are. I've always said to the kids, you've got to get up and look at yourself in the mirror every day,

and if you can't do that, then there's something wrong. Yeah. So you've got to be who you are, haven't you? Yeah, you really, really have. Oh, I like that. I think that's a great end tone thanks very much thank you very much i'm just going to end on this thanks everyone for listening yeah speak to you soon please send us in your thoughts on the pod today i appreciate you all for listening. It's 0778 20 1919. Tony, I'll see you in a fortnight or two. Okay.

Loads and loads of love. Yeah, and you. See you later. See you. Bye. Ali from Cornwall here. Just to confirm, on your scone debate, not a scone, it's a scone. It is jam first, then you dollop the the cream you don't spread the cream like butter

you dollop it on that's how it's eaten and the more cream the better so from a Cornish maid that is the way you do it cheerio hi this is Chris McCausland. And this is Diane Boswell. And we've got a new podcast, haven't we, Di? We do. What's it called? Winning. Isn't.

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