Life with Nat - EP76: GK BARRY

Episode Date: January 2, 2025

Well, this IS a treat. The wonderful GK Barry came into a lot of people's awareness this year having made it to the Australian outback for I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here, and she's very much on my wavelength, but we find out how much with some quick(ish) fire questions on our hottest podcast topics Please subscribe, follow, and leave a review. xxx You can find us in all places here; https://podfollow.com/lifewithnat/view INSTA: @natcass1 We're also on Facebook now too: https://www.facebook.com/lifewithnatpod A 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] SHOW INFO: Life with Nat - it’s me! Natalie Cassidy and I’ll be chatting away to family, friends and most importantly YOU. I want to pick people's brains on the subjects that I care about- whether that’s where all the odd socks go, weight and food or kids on phones. Each week I will be letting you into my life as i chat about my week, share my thoughts on the mundane happenings as well as the serious. I have grown up in the public eye and have never changed because of it. Life with Nat is the podcast for proper people. Come join the community. ♥️ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Visit BetterHelp.com today to get 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelp, H-E-L-P.com. Today on Life with Nat, am very very excited because i have the wonderful gk barry who i like to call grace hello darling hello oh i'm so excited to be here well i'm very very honored that you've found the time to come and talk to Nat of course in between the drinking I'm absolutely resi how has it been your Christmas because this is going out on the 2nd of Jan but obviously we're not doing it then have you had a lovely festive time I have it was really weird actually because it didn't feel festive when I came back from Australia

because obviously it's hot so when I came back I really tried to get in the Christmas spirit my hairdresser came down and put up a Christmas tree and everything in my house so I felt very festive yeah I had a really good year this year you have had an amazing year haven't you amazing yeah I feel sort of like um you know one person gets picked for a charity thing and you're like the plus one that's how I feel like I'm like oh thank you let me go back a bit because there's probably going to be a lot of people who are listening to this who who know you now because you've been on ITV doing I'm a celebrity with cockroaches and dirty livers and stuff but where did you start your journey for people listening so I've been 2020 on TikTok so and that only feels

like a year ago but it was actually quite a while ago now but yeah I started on TikTok and five years been too long I should probably retire been too long it's I started on TikTok then I did a podcast and then I sort of moved into some telly stuff, which has ended in me going on a sled. Everyone's going to want to talk about it. I know you've spoken about it until the cows come home, but how was it? Be honest now.

Oh, I love talking about it because this is the only thing that will be iconic now in my life. I will speak about this. Now I've come back. I remember when I left I was like that was absolute hell I wouldn't put my worst enemy through that but now I've come back and thought about it it was actually a lot of fun I think it's really iconic like I watched a couple of episodes back and I was like I want I want to select yeah it's amazing it's so weird but no it

was really fun and it thankfully was a once in a lifetime experience but I also made a lot of friends on there which I didn't actually think you know sometimes you go on shows and you're all gonna be friends of you forever and then it gets to a week later and you don't speak anymore yes um I thought it would be like that but we're all still really close which is really nice I need to see a travel log program with yourself and Richard that's what I'm hoping for for 25 you're telling me I'm hoping something like that will happen in the new year but I've kept in contact with Rev because he's just so interesting I feel like his life is so different to mine but I've never I don't think I've ever been to a parish no so yeah are you gonna go do you think you'll go and see him and go down to

church and stuff do you think you'll go absolutely I said as long as I don't burn upon entering I think it's a pretty positive start and I will go in with you and I bought a dog called noodle and he's already blessed the dog. So I know me and the dog and my girlfriend will get into heaven. Oh, that's really lovely. Yeah, thank God. Is it a good thing though?

Or is heaven a bit boring? I've always wondered. I don't know. Sometimes I'd like a flame, like a few flames would be a bit of fun. But yeah, because I suppose everyone that's in heaven is a bit too good. You sometimes need in heaven is a bit too bit too good you sometimes need someone who is a bit of a criminal that's a bit of fun you've got to break the rules a little

bit otherwise it's a bit yeah maybe like petty theft though i don't know about some other crimes but petty theft i'll deal with yeah i'm talking more about being just a bit naughty in general i wasn't talking about me going straight to criminal straight to criminal no no no no no um so did Ella miss you yeah me and Ella yeah it was actually it was like one of us had died it was a bit pathetic actually I don't think I can't do a show like that again because not speak because what people don't realize is you're also in I don't know what they call it about holding for a week and a little bit before. So you haven't spoken to anyone on the outside for a month, a bit over a month. Me and Ella are joined at the hip at all times.

If I go to the toilet, she goes to the toilet. If I brush my teeth, she brushes her teeth. So yeah, that was, I think that was actually the worst part. Oh, my daughter's here. She's a huge fan. She wants to say hello. Come and say hello Eliza

hello how are you I'm good thank you how are you good I love that you're a fan great taste I know I just told all my friends I was like guess who I'm about to meet they were like who I was like GK Barry no way you've got one up on him now and I respect it yeah I know I'm like yeah I'm better than you now oh yeah you are right okay babe see you later oh that's great though isn't it it's a great thing to say to your friends I can be a cool mum you know when I get cool people on and it doesn't happen often it really doesn't but it's happened today it's happened today she's going to be very pleased about it i've also got to introduce you to my friend elliot

now this is a funny story elliot is sitting opposite me now really quiet he's very shy but about three months ago was it three months ago longer longer four or five months ago elliot was like you need to get GK Barry on your pod and this is being honest I was like who's that I don't know who that is I'm being honest but come on I'm you know I'm old I don't do TikTok it's not because of you it's me and I said who's that and he's like she is an icon she's my hero and you would really get on and you need to and that's when i first messaged you wait and you got back to me and then i've obviously watched your content and i'm like oh my god we would be best friends i love them well thanks to him

yeah come and say hello elliot there you go come on hello oh you're actually really pretty as well Well I needed that actually I thought I'd put a bit of slap on for you today Not just for me No well and for you Thank you for introducing us today Otherwise what would we be doing right now Probably not this

No I just thought As far as podcasts go I don't really do them that much but I've listened to a few of yours and yours yeah but you love grace don't you good save good save oh I love that well thank you so much yeah this is a massive box ticking for Elliot today so I said you've got to come and say hello didn't I absolutely enjoy enjoy so you're making people's day grace you're making people's day you know. You're making people's day. Oh, do you know what? Only human.

What can you do? What do you think it is, seriously? Because obviously you've got millions and millions of followers on TikTok, 1.3 million on Instagram and stuff. Who is your audience, do you think, generationally? Or is it quite big? Is it quite diverse? Who sort of gets you?

So when I was on just TikTok, I would say it would be like teenage girls and maybe like the younger mums but then I started doing loose women and people didn't really I thought oh this will like broaden my audience I don't think the audience took to me very well just because they thought here we go another young one that doesn't know what she's talking about which to be fair it's completely true um and then when I did I'm a celeb my audience now has completely broadened right when I landed from Australia the first thing me and my girlfriend did was went and got pie and mash so weird because we were walking down the street and it was just like 40 year old 50 year old eight year olds being like I loved you and I'm a celeb you're so nice and I was like because I'd never had

anyone probably above the age of 30 come up to me and be like I know who you are so it was it was really nice I've broken it I've broken the boundary it's really really good and I think that's why those programs are so good because you get to just show yourself, don't you? And it's really hard to hide. If you're not a nice person, those shows you cannot bloody hide. I did Big Brother. I've not done I'm a Celeb yet. Yeah.

You've got to say yeah, haven't you? I mean, it'll happen at some point. Of course. Let's be honest. I hope so. I'm going to have a large tax bill and I'm going to need to go in there and eat kangaroo bollocks. Let's be honest. We've all been there. It's going to have a large tax bill and I'm going to need to go in there and eat kangaroo bollocks, let's be honest. We've all been there.

It's going to have to happen. But you came across honestly so well. You were just so funny. Thank you. Well, it's funny because I went in just being like, right, I'm just going to be my online persona. I'll be really bubbly, really loud, blah, blah, blah. Day two, I was absolutely exhausted. I thought, fuck this.

I'm not doing stand-up for three weeks. This is just, I don't have it in me, especially if I'm so tired and cold. So then I just started. And most people in the camp warmed to me a bit more. Then I remember Colleen was like, everyone's such a big personality in here. And it was really overwhelming. And then when you started being yourself is when I sort of felt like more you know that you could speak to me a bit more oh no it was absolutely brilliant it was brilliant what are your plans for 25 grace I mean

I know your podcast is amazing I mean it's huge right you've got a massive following on there what are your numbers like yeah we don't have to go into them but I have absolutely no clue I don't either I look at my thing I get the chart up right and I can't read charts it's not what I do so I'm like yeah is this good is it not Emma my producer M is it all right she's like it's going really really well I don't know a thing that's exactly what I do and the way I base it is tours so like I'm doing a tour in 2025 but if if I'm doing bigger venues I know the pod's doing well yeah that's how I'm basing it because I started off oh my god my first tour was awful it was like in like a little bar that had like sticky floors and everyone was feral that'll be me this year I'll be off touring those places. Too, right? It's a humbling moment

and I'm sending thoughts and prayers, but you've got to start somewhere. It's funny because it's grown so much. So yeah, I think I'm going to tour next year and I'm hoping to do more TV. And do you know what? I speak to Stacey Dooley and she's actually really

lovely, thank God, because they say don't meet your heroes. She is beautiful. Currently talking to her on Insta, getting her on the pod in Jan. Love her. I'm going to be listening to that. I cannot wait. She's absolutely amazing. But I want to be like Stacey Dooley's prodigy.

Okay. That's what I want to be. Yeah. I want to be her in 2025. Fine. Do a doc or something. So you want to do a documentary like that sort of stuff yeah

yeah anything I think this is very possible fingers crossed I think anything's possible this year I'm doing lots of different bits and pieces fingers in a lot of pies are you?

I want to come on your pod as well yeah 100% if you need a guest for your live shows let me know because I would love to come and do that. Oh, I love this. It's so awful booking guests for live shows. Yeah.

So thank God you've reached out for that. Yeah, no, honestly, we'll have a little look at the dates, but I'm well up for it. I think it'll be fun. See you in September. Is it September? It is. Listen, let's chat.

It could happen. Let's chat. So where are you? Whereabouts do you live? Not exactly, obviously, because we don't want everybody knowing your postcode, but where are you?

How long have you been where you are? Now, I lived here for a year because before I used to live in Cambridge with my mum and dad. To be honest with you, I don't know what's better. I feel like I like it because it's really quiet. It's just quite nice.

And there's a Tesco three minutes from my house. You surprise me, you know. I thought you'd be wanting to be in central London, in the middle of town, Soho, kind of in the midst of it. Is that your worst nightmare? That is my worst nightmare when I have to go into London for work I think I hope that somehow I just drop dead on this journey like it is hell and when I used to get the tube oh my god I would be having like pure panic I don't know how people do that every day like my mum used to have to get the tube every day and I look at her like

god does give the strong what is it the hardest battles to his strongest soldiers that's saying I'm like that you know if I get on a train and I look at everyone you look at the commuters and you think you do this every day and every night more power to you it's amazing there's no fucking way no I couldn't do it I'm not cut out for it no and I hate yeah I hate anything like london i remember when i was at uni i was like i'm gonna move to manchester i'm gonna go central manchester then i went there my friend's car got smashed in i thought you know what i'm not about this city life i'm in the sticks i love it i love the stick it's like the vicar of dibbley out here we've got a village hall two pubs and everybody knows everyone's business it's great that's how you know when it's got a

village hall you're winning it's very a village hall, you're winning. It's very, very good. Very, very good. Now I need to ask you a few questions regarding my podcast because last year, I'm ready.

You know, there was different opinions about different things. So I thought we'd go through a few things to see what Grace's point of view is. Okay.

So number one, do you drive? I do. Right. If you are sat on a dual carriageway and there's a roundabout coming up ahead and there's loads of traffic to turn right, do you cut in or wait? Are you a cutter in a? Okay.

My issue is, is I'm a massive pussy when it comes to driving. And I've got a thing that if I have to come off on an exit and it's like two miles, I'll get in just in case I can't get in. So I'm not a cutter upper when it comes to like a roundabout. Fine. But I do respect people that do because you've just saved yourself 20 minutes. I hate them. Really? I hate them.

Yeah. My nanny, Laura, right, who looks after the kids, she's very proud of it. And she tells me to wind me up. She's like, I just did the A414. I said it took me 35 minutes to get to the roundabout.

And she goes, oh no, I just went whizzed up and cut in. And it really aggravates me. And that's why it takes us 35 minutes because everyone's cutting in. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you're right. Do you know what? I'm on your side now.

Yeah. It's not fucking right, Grace. I was trying to be a woman of the people then. But fuck that. You're absolutely right. Yeah. There we go. First question.

Second question. When going into a supermarket, do you ever use a shopping bag and fill up your shopping bag with food and not use a basket no because isn't that really point well actually no because well no that's really stupid what is it because okay right have a think you have to unload it you have to unload it yes but this is actually this is what it depends on it's stupid if you're going to a self-checkout yeah yeah because you've got your unload I unload one thing at a time and then put it in the bag so what you've just unloaded all of it to put it back in the bag that feels like to me extra stress but if you're going to a normal till and you're putting it all that smart

and then you also know when your bag is full it's nothing worse than overfilling a bag and having to this is true how about the fact that when you are filling up a bag this comes from a podcast a while ago now with mark and i me and my other half and he he fills up a bag my point is does it not look like you're nicking it yeah and to be fair we can't have that on our backs the sun would be all over that be in the daily mail with a huge red circle it'll be blown up straight away yeah natalie cassidy steals beans we don't need that on the record but you're right it does look like it's like when people start drinking their drink

during their shop and then go and pay for it. I can't. I have done that before with a bottle of water and I'm absolutely gasping. I have. And children, if you've had children in a trolley that are doing your brain in, you have opened the odd packet of Wotsits, I'm not going to lie. If you know what, motherhood, you can't judge anything when it comes to motherhood. Anything goes.

So that is fair enough. It's really hard work. The kids are now through it. They're through it. I've got an eight-year-old and obviously the one you just saw, she's 14. So she's sort of, you know, in that sort of non-human sort of phase at the moment where she's lovely, but she wants to sort of just be in her bedroom. Bargain. But when they are little and they're tired

and you're in a supermarket, you'll give them anything. Yeah, see, Ella's got nieces and nephews and I've never really been around kids before, but you do, like, if her niece said to me, I want a sweet, best believe she's getting a sweet because if she cries, I won't know what to do. There you go. They rule you.

Kids rule you. They're powerful things. Of course, yeah, of course yeah of course terrifying they are absolutely terrifying do you think you'd like children one day I was pretty against kids just because I've got a thing about germs but I think it would be quite cute to have a mini me and Ella I don't think I'd take the piss and have like five no I'd probably stick to like two um two's enough do you know what I say Grace you've got two hands when you cross a road right right I think two is a safe number that's completely fair because at one point I was thinking when I came out the jungle I was I didn't even say

I love you to Ella I was like what we're going to do is we're going to have three kids we're going to get married somewhere and she was like can we relax but I think two is absolutely correct yeah because otherwise and yeah you just can't hold their hands you're completely right yeah and you have to get another car when you go on holiday you've got to get another room or it's got to be a king-size room it's a fucking nightmare unless you are absolutely Keiko which I'm don't get it wrong I'm sure you are but it's aggravating. The flights, the ticket, it's a lot. Four's a safe number. I'm not getting a six-seater.

Yeah, I'm not getting a six-seater, five-seater. I don't know how cars work, but I'm not getting one of those big ones. I'm not doing that. No, and you can't go in multi-stories. They're an absolute nightmare, those big cars. Yeah, you've charmed me. I'm not doing that. I had a Land Rover Discovery years ago.

Come on. to me I'm not doing it I had a Land Rover Discovery years ago come on and I broke the glass roof twice by not it was too tall for two multi-stories do you know how embarrassing that is what do you even do in that situation really bad you go through and you just hear in my memory I think I just looked up there's no there's no point even getting angry so you just look up you know you've then got a reverse back so you know you're gonna crack it more and then you just go to the garage and you just have to just deal with it except your fate but it's not it's not good no Land Rover discoveries for me then you're right lovely cars though lovely cars if you don't have good um if yeah if you if you don't go in multi-storey car parks.

But dashing in and out of town and stuff, you know, to park, it's so much easier. Yeah, you're right. I want to get a little electric car for that reason. Because you can always park in town. Parking's free. Congestion's free. Right then, electric cars. Shopping bags, you look like a moron and you look like a thief.

We've done that. Cutting in, you're on my side. I'm very happy about that. Do you like Viennetta? Who's that? Viennetta is an ice cream, Grace. It sounds to me that you've never heard of it. Viennetta?

What does it look like? Oh, she's too young. I can't bear it. So annoying. It's unbelievable. It's a layered ice cream yeah which you get in the freezer of it in frozen you know the frozen aisle of a supermarket i'm showing you a photo i think i know what you're about show me a photo hang on lots of people send me different viennettas because over the year i've said it's

it's a cheap dessert for people and it hasn't gone up like everything else has. So lots of people send me them. 90p here, £1.20 in Spain. It's become a little thing. Really? Yeah. This is a Viennetta. Viennetta.

I must have had one because it's ringing a bell. Well, if you haven't, get yourself down to Tesco's later and have a go. I think you'll enjoy it. Do they sell them in in pubs not the pubs i've been in i'm gonna go to a pub after this i'm thinking maybe i asked for a viennetta yeah no i don't think they'll have one but you could have a go you could try is that what you're doing today you're having a nice pub lunch yeah i'm gonna go for a pub lunch because nowhere accepts dogs no it's really annoying actually unless you've got a great day and then i get it toy poodle that's hurting ridiculous i suppose what you have to think of in a restaurant right is if they all said yes yeah you could have a lot of yappy dogs all wanting to play with each other do you know

what i say and i think this is if i was prime minister i would stick to this go on if you've got a dog that doesn't really bark like our dog doesn't really bark you're allowed in you're allowed in the inn if you have a barky dog the beer garden's free. It's means testing dogs though. That's out of order, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Before you come in, bark. And if it barks, it's out the back.

Sort of box ticking exercise. Can you come? Can you not? I'm not sure about it. I'm not sure it's going to work. Yeah. Morally, it does feel wrong. You're putting them all in boxes.

Yeah. I'll work on my manifesto. I think you'd be a great prime minister however i actually do agree i wouldn't have a clue what i was doing but i do agree oh i know but there's loads of people below you don't they the ones that are in now you know they don't do all the work do they they're sort of the front man you've got bundles of people behind you doing the work and i'd wear like a cropped blazer little trouser number lovely bouncy blow so you need what shoes would go with that outfit I'd have a kitten show that I I know that you know I've got

a lot of walking to do because I'm in power places to be people to see but also you know I'm not wearing a flat because I do care like I care about this country I like it a lot um I can't wear heels. If I wear a heel, it looks like I've shit myself. You've got bunions. Yeah. Right.

Can't do it. I didn't mean to laugh at your bunions. I've got bunions. But you know what? Sometimes, like, you know, some people you see just always in heels. I don't get that.

People run for the bus in five inch Louboutins. I've seen a woman do that. That's not normal behaviour. The bus comes every 10 minutes, slow down. There's no need. I think it's amazing for people who can walk in heels. When I wear a heel, I go progressively more forward. So I end up at sea because of the pain so I don't know what's worth I just don't think they're very good for our bodies I love a low fat and I love a trainer I love a trainer and I love an hug ah they're not good for your feet though are they are just be honest I mean if you want athletes for it probably is from an hug

there's a lot of warmth. We're putting on a sock though, are we? Because that is stinky. Oh, of course. Yeah. Yeah, of course. We're putting a sock on with the UGG. Okay, that's fine.

I love a croc as well. Do you hate me for that? I love a croc. I've got croc charms. I've got a little boiled egg. I've got a trumpet on my croc. Love that. And I've got a couple of little random ponies i believe and a rainbow but they're very cute it's fun i feel like look at me i've got croc charms when i go out

i like i like the fact that the croc now you can build your personality with them that's what i like it's cool yeah you know what people like. You know, they've got Gavin and Stacey ones on there. So, you know, right. If I have a conversation with them, I'll probably just bring up Gavin and Stacey. It's a good conversation starter. How did you enjoy the finale?

I thought it was amazing. I'm glad we didn't find out what happened on the fishing trip. Because I remember as they were about to say it, I thought, I don't want to know because whatever they'll say won't be good enough for my head. And that's why they didn't do it. I thought that I thought it was 90 minutes of perfection. In every way.

Everything. The vodka, when they were all pissed as farts, loved it. I cried. I cheered. And I laughed and I sobbed. And I haven't done that to a television program for a very very long time the last program I did that with was only fools and horses heroes and villains when they found the pocket watch and they were dressed up as Batman and Robin I'm sure it might not be your

thing I'm gonna nod but yeah I have not seen that however I do like when a show gives you like the seven stages of grief I enjoy it because I feel like right that. However, I do like when a show gives you like the seven stages of grief. I enjoy it because I feel like, right, that wasn't a waste of time. It was unbelievable. And we've gone back and we've started watching all the older ones again. I've done it all around the wrong way. People were doing that before this was on, but I didn't have time for that, Grace. Yeah, I only watched a couple of episodes.

But like before it came on to like refresh. But I don't know. I just thought it was amazing. And a lot of episodes before it came on to refresh. But I don't know. I just thought it was amazing. And a lot of them haven't aged. No, I agree. Ruth Jones don't age. At all. At all.

At all. Tidy. Yeah. And James Corden. No, James hasn't aged. They're like fine wines i'd say right i need to ask you about scones now cornish scones when you go on holiday or if you buy them yeah do you put jam on first or cream on first please so i too call it a scone. I think scone is wrong. Yeah, I do believe that.

I put the cream on and then I put the jam because personally it upsets me. The jelly texture and then cream on top of that, I feel like it would then mess up the spread of the jam. So it must be cream then jam. I'm completely with you. Thank you. And that's how I feel. You're on my wavelength, Grace. You're on cream then jam I'm completely with you thank you and that's how I feel you're on my wavelength grace you're on my wavelength I'm very happy about this if you

would have said I put jam on first in the cream I might have switched off the zoom yeah you deserve to be on a register if you do anything of that sort yeah perfect that's really good have you got a weird food combo someone yes um oh go on what's your weird food combo that you love I don't think this is weird okay but when I was telling people about this they were like I like a scotch egg with loads of salad cream weird right you do agree that's weird I love it I get it but I don't like scotch eggs really I'm not a scotch egg fan I'm more of a pork pie with a little bit of Branston pickle but have you had like I'm not talking about a supermarket boiled egg scotch egg I'm talking about like a farmer's market gooey scotch egg you don't like them no i would have that i would

that's different now we're talking yeah because sometimes yeah a boiled egg i do think this is it's like war food it is isn't it yeah it really is it's like you found it it's like spam it's no good no need for spam there's no need for spam i I used to fry spam. I went through a phase of frying it, deep frying spam, and having it just on its own with mayonnaise. Right, see, I've seen this on TikTok. Oh, have you? But I don't get it. I just, I mean, anything in a tin makes me a little bit uneasy.

I completely agree with you. Those frae bentos meal. You can get roast dinners in a pot like in a pot in a tin it makes me uncomfortable i think i would rather sit and eat a fresh cockroach in front of ant and deck than eat a frae bentos pie uh do you know what actually i do agree completely oh look hello darling no no no no noodle noodle oh my god i can't cope he's really sweet he's absolutely gorgeous look at y'all congratulations on being a mum that's so cute do you know do you know what i bought my eight-year-old for christmas i've bought her a reborn doll very complicated again this is elliot's fault elliot's mum's fault we're into

these fucking dolls as well in fact the whole of the marchant family has really annoyed me this year no not really well of course they are really weighted heavy they look like newborn children I've seen these yeah right but she keeps introducing the baby to different members of the family and she's not getting the reaction she wants she's getting this oh because it's so lifelike but it's really upsetting her that people she said why does everyone think my baby's weird I mean mean, I see it, but I don't mind when kids, I think that's a smart idea, giving a kid, because sometimes you see those babies that kids have and they don't even look like babies. No. You could throw them at a wall and they'd still stay the same.

Yeah, no, these are really, I mean, I spent 45 minutes in Matalan yesterday for her to pick out a baby hat with her Christmas money. This is where my life is at the moment and that's your fault as well you started that I know Moses basket arrived this morning from Amazon you're going to start rumors now I know I know Natalie seen with another baby it will if I go out with it that will definitely be I should do that for a laugh actually I should take it out because it will it will be in the Daily Mail saying there's Natalie had a baby. When you pick her up from school, if she wants you to bring it, all the mums are going to be like, Natalie, you held that well. We haven't seen you much over the last year. Is this what you were up to?

I'll say, no, I've just been working my nuts off. Yeah, same sort of thing though thank you so we've gone through most of the questions i know people would love to hear from you one more special one if you can think of one but it is putting you on the spot a bit but holiday disasters can you think of a story of a holiday disaster definitely well I'm trying to think of it okay then I'll give you two examples because one's a bit short perfect one I got taken skiing um turns out I despise I can't ski I despise skiing and I get out of tube sickness so that to me was an absolute disaster but my other one is I got taken on a brand trip to Ibiza and I was like yeah let's let's have it large and on like the second night and it's with a group of people right I'm talking all the

tiktokers and you should probably put your best best socks on or whatever the saying is for it but i didn't and they took us to this restaurant um and they just served you like meat you know like salami oh yeah charcuterie board you know stuff that like wouldn't even fill up a quarter of your stomach it was not not even. It was a grape and a bit of salami. Right. And gallons of wine. Right. So, yeah, I had a bit of that and they were like, should we just all go clubbing?

And at this point, I was absolutely pissed as a fart. Oh, no. But you know when you're that level of drunk, you think you're sober. Many times. That was where I was at. Yeah, we went to the club I had more

to drink and then I thought I'm just gonna walk home I reckon walked home with a lot of my friends I nearly drowned in a fountain because they don't look that deep oh no I then had to walk back home and at the time I vaped my vape died and honestly it was the worst thing in the world and in Spain they don't sell proper vapes right that was my last one so that to me was like oh the end of the world have you given up vaping then do you not vape now now I have yeah I've given up now I'm so proud of you for that because I am still vaping. Oh, I miss it every day. I really, really want to give up.

I was saying last night, nothing hits like a vape. But I just thought, I don't know, I kept wheezing. And I'd wake up during the night coughing and choking. I thought, I've probably got popcorn lung or emphysema, so I should probably give this up. Yeah I gave it up. Don't get me wrong sometimes if my friend has a vapour we'll have a cheeky part but nowhere near as it was. That's really really good and I'm going to do the same. That's one thing I'm not into new year's resolutions Grace. I don't know about you

but I think you're setting yourself up for a fall. You're setting yourself up to fail. I'm going to stop this, stop this, stop this and bybruary you feel awful i don't think it's good for your mental health to keep setting yourself up for resolutions but that is something even like you say to sort of cut it right back but yeah i do vape but i used to be a smoker that's what you've got to remember for many years right i love them it's the routine you know what you should do you You should get like the hard Nicorette patch or whatever. And there's these little whistle things that, because it's more the putting it into your mouth. Yeah.

So put a patch on and then take the little blow and pretend you're vaping. And then once the head rush is over, you can take the patch off and do that every time. And then it will get to a point where you're like, I don't need to do this. All right. I'll have a go. I see. I see.

If that doesn't work, just maybe try something a bit more hardcore. I'll have a think about it. But you need to be in the mindset to do it. Don't you? Yeah. And you need to stop making excuses. Just go on Google. Go on Google.

What for? Just be like, how many people died from this? Oh, I know. And then just scare yourself into it. Yeah, see, I'm not one for, don't Google much. I don't really, I've given up watching the news for the last sort of six months. I haven't really watched much news. I haven't been listening to LBC as much, which I used to.

And I do feel a little happier for it, Grace, because I do think there's a lot out there. Part of me feels, am I being stupid and a bit selfish for not watching it? But I've got enough to do in my life. And I just want to sort of concentrate on all the things that matter to me and not have to worry about everything else as well. Do you think it's selfish? No. If something's not positive, don't watch it.

And also, I feel like with social media, you're clued up on the important stuff of what's going on. It will appear on your For You page anyway. Whereas sometimes I watch the news and I think, Jesus Christ, is there anything good? So yeah, I don't really watch the news either. It's Christ look anything is there anything good so yeah I don't really watch the news either it's so depressing no fair enough I'd watch it if you were prime minister on the news though I'd watch prime minister's question time with you popping out

in your kitten heels I'd be on chat gbt trying to type the questions that I've been asked and have a perfect answer for it that's what I I'd do. Well, that's brilliant. Right. I am going to say thank you so, so much for coming to have a chat with me today. I'm sure everyone will love to hear from you. I might go and have half a pork pie now and a glass of Prosecco. Who knows what's going to happen? Oh, that has made me feel a type of way.

I'm going to do the exact same thing. It's giving me tingles. Well, listen, I hope to speak to you more in 2025. Love to Ella. Absolutely. Kiss to noodles and have a wonderful 2025 because you deserve it. You've been absolutely brilliant last year, Grace. Oh, thank you so much for having me.

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