Life with Nat - EP82: Nat's Nieces #12

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

It’s Els Bels’ birthday! Maria’s shoe cabinet saga continues and she’s ill again. We catch up on old topics and love hearing from you all. ❤️ Please subscribe, follow, and leave a review. xxx You can find us in all places here; https://podfollow.com/lifewithnat/view INSTA: @natcass1 We're also on Facebook now too: https://www.facebook.com/lifewithnatpod A 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] SHOW INFO: Life with Nat - it’s me! Natalie Cassidy and I’ll be chatting away to family, friends and most importantly YOU. I want to pick people's brains on the subjects that I care about- whether that’s where all the odd socks go, weight and food or kids on phones. Each week I will be letting you into my life as i chat about my week, share my thoughts on the mundane happenings as well as the serious. I have grown up in the public eye and have never changed because of it. Life with Nat is the podcast for proper people. Come join the community. ♥️ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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happy birthday to you has to be one of the most awkward things ever especially when there's just two of you doing it for your funeral well anyway that's going popping up online for you all the best. Thank you.

How are you? Good. Good. 33. The big three three. Yeah. Why is it big three three. Yeah. Why is it big?

Dunno. Just double numbers, innit? Birthdays are so shit when you get older, aren't they? Shit. Hate them. There's no point. I mean, we are going out. We're celebrating. I know.

I can't wait for that. That'd be fun. Yeah. Yeah. No, you'll have a nice time. It's just another day, isn't it? Just another day. But it shouldn't be, really.

We create that. What, a big thing? No, it shouldn't not be a big deal. What? Well, just like people that say, oh, it's just another day. No, it's your birthday. You should have a lovely day. Yeah, of course.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I do know what you mean. I don't like, but I get a bit funny about birthdays it's a bit much for me why I don't know I find it all a bit overwhelming well there's nothing

to be overwhelmed about the expectation like no see I don't I just think have a nice day no I know but I just think

sometimes you feel like it should be a certain way and if it's not it's a bit like if you've got expectations then yeah my birthday

being the 23rd of January I have no expectations no but you always have a lot like you always have a lovely time yeah no I do a lot but we've had also a lot of people generally don't want to do anything I say that it's me making that assumption because you feel bad yeah yeah yeah um and also we've had some shockers remember when we we went to London and it was like dead. We just were like walking around London. Oh, was that when we went to go swingers? Yeah, it was just like nothing was there. It was just dead everywhere you went.

Just mocktails. And also I was saying today, people don't like going out anymore. No, it's true. So we're going to do a little girly night. And one of the girls was like, I'll just host a little thing at mine. Yeah. And I'm like, yeah, that's lovely. Because wasn't it when we went to...

No, when was it we went out locally and we were the only people in there? Yeah, and then we drove... No? No. Where? When? How long ago? I don't know if it was for your birthday.

Oh. But we all went out. Oh, yeah, it was my birthday. We went to where? On a Friday night, yeah, in Ware. We were the only people in this place. Yeah, it was mad. For the whole night.

And I think one other group come in. And we were saying, you must be, you're open. You must be losing money. So when, you might as well just be, like you say, at home. And that's it. So I was like, yeah, I'd much rather do that. Have a night in play a few games

yeah lovely people don't like going out anymore do they no well I certainly don't well I think times change as well when you've got kids and stuff

I do no I like going out but we like doing nice dinners yeah a dinner of course we're going out Saturday night what I mean is

it's just a different like going to a bar for drinks I'd rather be at someone's house playing a nice Saturday night with a nice for drinks I'd rather be at someone's house playing Saturday night with a nice night it was a lovely evening honestly

going out and standing in a bar I just would never do it I genuinely just would not do that no I have no interest no I don't mind

I'd go to a nice pub I do like a pub nice pub but yeah but there's bars and then there's bars yeah it depends if you've got a nice table or whatever is different i mean standing up at a bar no absolutely not no it's not i'm just

not what are we animals no i wanted to talk to you about the socks you gifted me for Christmas. Absolutely love them. Go lovely with a boot. But? My feet stink. Well, that's your problem. No, I don't have smelly feet. I sound like I smoke about 40 cigarettes a day. Marie's ill again, everyone. Shock horror.

Excuse me. Right. Can we just start? Yeah. That. It's not nice. What's that sweetheart ill again

but it it's true but it's not my fault if I went through whatsapp and saw Maria Merg

with ill the word ill would just be like a reoccurring would it overtake wardrobes no but no

I know I am ill a lot I am but that's your immune system's down but why well yeah because that's not my fault No, but... Or shoe back. I know I am ill a lot. I am. But that's not... Your immune system's down. But why? Well, yeah, because that's not my fault. But also... That's not my fault.

It's harsh to say that to people. It makes me feel really shit. It makes me feel guilty. I feel guilty for being ill. Well, that's stupid. No, but you do. And do you know what I've discovered is I don't rest in... I don't let myself get better. Well, that's stupid. No, but you do. And do you know what I've discovered is I don't rest.

I don't let myself get better. Well, that's the whole problem. This is it, exactly. So that's still working. And the problem is because you can work from home, which is great. Yeah. But then you're not resting. But that's the whole point.

So that's why I'm ill all the time. Correct. But I think you need to be aware of saying that to people. Because I do. I say it to people. You're always ill. It's not a nice thing to say it's not our fault what can I do?

You're doing really well because Maria this week I'm not sure if you saw it on Nats and Nieces but she's decided to get a box to put her vitamins in which I used to have which I used to have for my dad when he was 82 so it was a blast from the past seeing the picture if I'm honest It's going well. Which I used to have for my dad when he was 82.

So it was a blast from the past, seeing the picture, if I'm honest. I sent the photo to Mark and he's put, what did he say? He's a weirdo, that bloke. I sent it to him because I thought, oh, he's going to be so proud of me because we spoke about the old vitamin D. And he put, aren't you a bit early in life to have one of those? I am so confused. Why have you sent me a photo of a pill box? I said they're vitamins, you dope.

No, I do get it. Yeah, but you do forget to take them. It's great. It's the best thing I have invested in. Do you know what? I nearly ordered one when I was pregnant and to be fair, I didn't. Just don't know why.

We're doing the old Bassett's vitamins because they're good the kids oh the kids yeah cracking I've bought every flavour under the sun

yeah went to Boots on Saturday with Alfie he saw a new flavour Apple and Blackcurrant perfect spat it out

I've got about 100 packets at home excellent and Ruby just smashes the strawberry ones down like they're sweets but I don't

take any vitamins. You were really good when you were pregnant. Yeah I did. I took all the pregnant care. What do you mean? Yeah just the one No three. Oh. Two of the big green ones and then there was a yellow one. Oh I only took one. This is like the pregnant care max. But I've got a whole box spare and I've been trying to give them

away. Yeah. But then someone said to me the other day that I should still just take them because it's all just vitamins. Well, absolutely. It's just the folic acid. Does it matter? Yeah, but is that going to hurt? I don't know.

But anyway, the good thing about this pill box is you can take, when I go on holiday, I can take the little ones out. Oh, that's amazing. That's fantastic. What has our life come to? Oh, I'm trying here I'm trying to get better it's about good food

good sleep I watched Dragon's Den last night with Joe Wicks on it is he on the whole thing no it was just

the first one I just watched the first one I find him really likeable like I don't know he just seems so normal

but when he was like I don't know about the dissolvable vitamins or whatever, and he says it's just down to good sleep, eating well, a bit of exercise. And he is right. I know it's boring, but we try and find miracle things,

but it's actually really basic stuff. No, it's true. We're lazy, so we hope for quick fixes. No good. But the vitamins won't. Vitamin D, he said that's work for him this year. No, I know, I for him and we don't get a lot of sun

in this country so no it's true true say the vitamin D sorry just going back to the socks

oh yeah sorry yeah because she doesn't wash her feet no no no I promise you no I've got to let me just explain

because my feet my socks my shoes trainers never I promise you my feet never ever smell my socks, my shoes, trainers, never. I promise you, my feet never, ever smell. My socks never smell nothing, but these bad boys.

What are they then? Oh, you're gross. What is that then? Really? Let me have a sniff. I just think they're a little bit, they're not bad, but for me, that's bad. But is it the fabric? They're not like a cotton? Yeah, no, they're like a wool.

Oh, my days. They don't smell. Your feet are probably sweating in them Lovely though Kept me warm today But are they different to my ones Because these are a new version I've not had these ones

They're really comfy I really like them Well you wanted to Why don't you leave them in a boot And send the boots back Yeah I could do that No Who knows

But anyway there you go But they're lovely Really like them Good I'm pleased you do They just make my feet sweat a little bit Because like you say They're woolen Yeah But they're nice You said you them. Good. I'm pleased you do. They just make my feet sweat a little bit because, like you say, they're woolen. Yeah.

But they're nice. You said you wanted a thick, warm sock. I did. And I provided the goods. You did. I had an Ola as well, designer ones. They weren't called designer ones. Designer ones.

Oh. Yeah, they're nice. They're nice, aren't they? Yeah, they are. It's good, yeah. Excellent. I wear them every day. What's this stain on your shoulder?

Oh, sick, obviously. Probably some. Yeah. Sorry. It's this stain on your shoulder? Oh, sick, obviously. Yeah. Sorry. Oh, sick. A bit chander. Yeah, just got quite a few down me, but I couldn't be bothered to get changed. No, fair enough. Fair enough.

You know, why are you doing that? They're not wool, are they? No. No, just cotton. I didn't realise, yeah. Oh, what, you didn't mean to buy them? No, I did. They're just the newer ones.

No, the reason I like them is I even like the little label on them. Oh, that's what I thought, yeah. They're not sporty, and they can go, when the boot's on, you can see the label. Crack him. Really nice. Do you want to hear another cool car? Here we go. Yes.

The shoe rack. Go for it. It's not a rack. Can we stop calling it a rack? Shoe cupboard. Cabinet. Oh, God. Shoe cabinet.

Item to put the shoes into to tidy the porch. I know it's 2025 and we need to move on no go for it but I haven't received my refund how long ago we took

no that's bad it's it's yeah there are no words how bad is that it's appalling I emailed them

last Monday just saying where is my money because I can't where is my money give me my money bitch give me my money because I can't where's my money give me my money bitch give me my money because I can't

I haven't got the energy so they've stolen my money no you're going to get it did you get confirmation that they'd received your return

no nothing perfect what have you done to your hand burnt it how bad is that show me

that's a shame how have you done that oh on that bit on the rim around that sorry Burnt it. How bad is that? Show me. That's a shame. How have you done that? Oh, on that bit on the rim. It's all around that rim. Sorry. You need to take a photo. I must say burning yourself is one of the worst things in the world. It's a horrible, horrible pain.

No? Yeah. It blistered. I didn't mind it overnight. And then the skin ripped off again. Again. it's a horrible horrible pain no yeah it blistered I didn't mind it and then the skin ripped off again again

you love burning yourself I've just got scars all the way the same scars from the oven when I was do you remember how old was I

probably about eight yeah dad was making a sauce and it was a summer's day and I was going to one of my friends birthday party so I had like a

little strappy summer dress on yeah dad was doing the day and I was going to one of my friend's birthday party. So I had like a little strappy summer dress on. Yeah. Dad was doing the sauce and we always used to love, you know, the little tins of tomato puree. Yes. We used to always love like having a little bit of it. So like we'd get it and I don't know, put your finger in, have a little bit. And I went to do it. Dad was there.

But before he could get to me, I picked up this little tin. And it had boiling hot water in it. And I jumped and I literally threw it all down me because he would then put the boiling water in, swish it around, but he didn't get to me quick enough to say, don't do that. Oh, my God, it was awful. It's really bad.

My friends had bad burn accidents, hot waters. Wasn't it with rice? Yeah. It's really hot. Wasn't it with rice? Yeah. It's really hot. Yeah, it's not nice at all. That's bad, the rice, because it sticks to you. Goodness.

But while she was seeing to one child, she didn't realise the other one in the walker had done that. Yeah. All three of them? Two. Two of them. Yeah, it's awful, isn't it?

Yeah, it's not good. And because she's got the scar, hasn't she, which looks like it's all like bitty. Oh, bitty. It's more like rice. Rice pattern. Like rice grains. It is, isn't it?

Well, no, it's just scarred. It is scarred, but you... Oh, because you think where the rice stuck to it? Yeah. But I don't think that was... Oh, maybe. I'm sure we've had that conversation. Maybe.

I can't remember. I mean, sounds good if that is the case. I was going to say something else about hot water. Now it's gone. You should always have a hot water in the morning with a bit of lemon. It should be one of the first things you drink. Oh, I thought it was cold. Wow.

I thought it was a cold glass of water. No, hot water. Let's get the old. Why? Hot water. Why? Drop a lemon in it. Why? Slice a lemon. Why? I don't know. It's of water. No, hot water. Let's get the old. Why? Hot water. Why? Drop a lemon in it. Why?

Slice a lemon. Why? I don't know. It's just meant to be good for you, isn't it? Yeah, but again, all these things, it's a lot to think about. They all contradict one another. A glass of hot water with a bit of lemon's not a lot. No, but then someone else would say cold,

and someone would say before you go to bed, do this, and someone says at 11 o'clock, you've got to do this. No, I know. I agree. Just get on with your life. Yeah. However you live live and if you want to wake up and have a coffee feel your boots absolutely love coffee i've been doing my coffee with my keto cream i need that can i have that i'm into tea these days more so than coffee interesting really enjoying a cup of tea well i've gone the other way purely because of this keto cream and my divinia potato one that i

do you can have it with tea it's not the same you prefer it with coffee i tasted gone the other way purely because of this keto cream and my Davinia potato one that I do. You can have it with tea. It's not the same. You prefer it with coffee. I tasted yours the other day. It was nice. It's lovely. Well, today I went and popped into Ware to get some bits for dinner and I hadn't had a coffee,

so I thought I'm going to go to the coffee shop and get a coffee and I got an oat milk latte. Did you enjoy it? I did. It's quite creamy, isn't it? It's meant to not be that good for your oat milk better off just having full fat milk absolutely great so what's the point or black no nothing wrong with full fat you should drink full fat milk yeah it's better it's better than skimmed

yeah agreed all of that that's why we always drink that at home i only have blue milk but that's because of the kids yeah anyway just quickly i just wanted to touch on a couple of things from the last pod sheree healy chelsea healy you meant that's who i meant yeah but we were talking about sherry oh i know so i don't know why she was saying healy oh it was she she got that wrong fine we understand i meant to say sediment not filament we did understand that just minutes after

just didn't come yeah after we finished we were like it's sediment yeah and then Mark liked to point that out yeah you said sled not sledge

you can say sled what's a sled I don't know sledge or a sleigh not sled I don't know Iedge or a sleigh not sled I don't know I feel like you can say sled

I've never heard sled no no I've just fucked it up and the date night was not just for indoors I was right she just said date night did she

we could have gone I'm sure she said indoors we can fill your boots right up can we just go out for dinner casino cinema I said about swing it like the golf no can we? Just go out for dinner. Casino, cinema,

swing it, like the golf, no, the thing in London, swingers, swingers and golf, the darts I went to was good. Flight club.

No, okay, but yeah, it was anywhere. Alright, all the best. And also, Aquarius is not a

water sign. It's your star sign. I knew that and then Jackie texted me and in fact, let me, should I read out Jackie's message? What is it, an F sign? Air. Air, sorry.

So Jackie said, I've listened to today's pod. At the risk of being more boring than usual, just wanted to let you know that although Aquarius is depicted as the water carrier, it is an air sign. And I totally agree with you. We are the best. And then I must have apologised. Jackie said, no need to apologise.

But I was like, I felt like a right knob. No, because water sign is Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces. I don't know. Is that right? I'm just saying, that's right, isn't it? She never got back to me. All right, I'm not dwelling on that. Just saying. No, I'm just, if't it? She never got back to me. All right, I'm not dwelling on that. Just saying.

No, I'm just, if anyone knows her. You got mugged up. I don't know what I've done. We were talking. I sent her a message. We can't even get the star signs right, so she probably thinks that. Yeah, I'm not going on there.

See ya. She probably thought, no, no way on earth. See ya, pal. See ya, pals. That was great, wasn't it? I watched Happy Gilmore last night never seen it

it's such a good film have you not why are you sat there like that is that Ben Stiller no oh no

Ben Stiller is in it Adam Sandler Adam Sandler is he yeah Ben Stiller's the care home I don't remember

him in it I've seen I remember did I make it. I've seen that. I remember seeing... Did I make it up? I just remember seeing sort of... Adam Sandler. Yeah, it's such a good film. Have you watched 50 First Dates?

Yeah, look, he's in the Care Home. Fair play. Have you watched 50... I'm not sure, you know. Oh, my God. I'm not sure that I have. What, is it good? It's the saddest

film I've ever watched in my life no it's good it's Adam Sandler it's humorous but it's so is it Jennifer Aniston no that's

get with it that's good it's with what's her name oh my goodness gracious what's her name Perry Malone

do you think I am possible isn't it? My memory's really bad What's her name? American Oh my god, it's just come and it's gone again Let's play a game Who am I? Who am I?

Female? Yeah Blonde? Yeah Reese Witherspoon? No No, you've got to do more guesses The other one

Lucy Kudrow She said Jennifer Aniston Cameron Diaz? No Over 50 I don't know Maybe now Pedro. She said Jennifer Aniston. Cameron Diaz. No. Over 50. I don't know. Maybe now.

American? Yeah. Oh, my goodness. What's her name? No, I don't want you to tell us now. Is she? I don't know what else she's been in. Well, this, I mean, we're asking questions,

so she doesn't even know who it is. I do know. She's in quite a lot of films. I mean, you're asking me. she doesn't even know who it is. I do know. She's in quite a lot of films. I mean, you're asking me, I probably won't know who she is. Come on. I don't watch films. So you're asking the wrong person. Woman, blonde. Oh, Drew Barrymore.

Yes. Thank you. I don't know what she looks like, sorry. Yeah, really good. Yeah, good film. Sad, really sad. I don't know if it's meant to be sad is it it's horrific oh why someone dying it no it's just sad she loses her memory it's amazing it's good it's very clever i didn't expect to be having convulsions it took me by

surprise i'll probably just be cracking up all the way through it. You'd be sobbing. I cry at his tenders, to be honest. I cry at his tenders, I cry at anything. You've got a bit emotional. No. In your old age. No, I've always been emotional. How's the baby? He's good.

Yeah? Yeah, he's at home. A little trunca. Sleeping through the night he's so good isn't he so good such a good boy

keep it up boy no all good started swimming yeah bless him loved it oh the thing you bought the thing to cover up

the nappy did it fit alright because you were worried it was too small because you buy one of those have to oh I never did that yeah it's a requirement

that they have two layers so the poo don't seep out yeah but no the idea is they're meant to be tight but it was fine

he was fine in it it's just a lot of layers and you've got to put the thing on aggravation but they to be honest he doesn't even need a swim thing so warm in there

they can't just go in in that oh that's good so I'll probably do that I hope he does oh bless you but no yeah he loved it yeah he's a good boy that's good not much to report on that front this is an ad from better help online therapy we always hear about the red flags to avoid in relationships but it's just as important to focus on the green flags. If you're not quite sure

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This is really great that everyone's sending Viennetta all the time. The Viennetta story has been going on for how long? Too long. No, no, how long? A long time. Nine months? Yeah. I have not once been offered a piece of Viennetta in this house.

Never. No. Why? Why? Because there ain't none in the fridge. Or the freezer. There isn't any. So why? Because we were talking about the cost of living one day. Right.

And Mark brought up the fact that you can still get a decent viennetta and it hasn't changed. Okay, fair enough. People were loving that at the weekend the old lure pack £7.50 that's a joke and the kids are

scraping it out making well my new my new favourite thing is to just if nappies are on offer I get so excited

it's the best thing how much are nappies now? today in Tesco is on club card £8.50 down to £5. Oh, that's good. For that size pack.

Not the massive one. What's that, like 70? Oh, the 70 ones. Is that right? I don't know. I used to buy, I used to get two for like £19 was it

or something? Yeah, so two for the big boxes. The big boxes. It's a lot of money. Two for 20 quid. But you're buying Pampers, do you know what I mean?

No, I know, but I get so excited when they're on offer. I think, how many can I buy? I just buy stuff on offer, just because it's on offer. Always. Prime example of a shopper, naive shopper. Always. Hey, me.

Just buy stuff that's on offer. Yeah, Audi price match, club card, put it in the bag. Get it in your bag. But do you need it? Don't know. Maybe. No, I wouldn't buy something completely random. No.

I'll buy like a couple. Oh, you think, oh, they're an offer. I'll grab them. Alfie likes those Foxy's chocolate round ones. Oh, yeah. In Asda. They were a pound the other day. Did I get them?

Might have done. Then I go in Tesco's. They're a pound usually on Clubcard. £2.75. I'm not buying them yes no I know I'm not a fool

but this is why you have to stock up I know but I've only got so much room in my cupboards no I appreciate that and then they smash them out a whole pack in

five minutes that annoys me and also you've got to look at dates all very well saying stock up some of these things haven't got good

expiry dates on them but I didn't know butter went out of date that is the new one sorry sorry a dairy product you didn't know it lasts a long time long time yeah it does last a long time so it doesn't last a long time gone watermelon does it not no no i find at the moment that any melon or any fruit. You shouldn't really buy it, should you now? But any fruit is not very good. Everything goes off. I bought some peaches the other day.

They're actually better now they've gone off, I think. They were really hard. You need them to grow. But I think they're off. The date is off, but I had one today. Beautiful. I do find you should be buying things that are in season. I know, but then it annoys me it's there.

No, I know. Just don't have it. No, I know. It shouldn't be there. I agree. Why is it there? Well, no, you wouldn't be saying that if you couldn't get cucumbers for four months of the year because your kids would lose their mind.

What would I do? Well, there you go. Exactly. I'd have to grow them myself. How's the pepper getting on? There's no peppers there, but it's still there. What? No, we got some good little peppers off of it.

What? Could I eat them, do you reckon? What, are they still there? No, they've rotten. They're dead. Oh, that's a shame. It only took over a year, but it's all right. But the plant's still there.

I think once there's a bit of sun on it, they'll come back. I need to plant it in the garden. Yeah, do it. You must do that. Yeah, I will. I put like two seeds in with Alfie one day he was desperate

to try and do the herb garden yes and he was getting in the way so I said come here let's do our own little one yeah and blimey this thing has grown out of nowhere

oh it's brilliant unbelievable do I plant it in the bed oh not in the pot in the herb garden

in the herb garden no do it in the bed well it depends what's in the herb garden at the moment nothing oh if there's nothing in there put it in the... Pot? In the herb garden. In the herb garden. No, do it in the bed. Well, it depends what's in the herb garden at the moment. Nothing. Oh, if there's nothing in there, put it in the planter. Can I put herbs in there as well? You could do, yeah. You just don't want it to strangle the pepper,

so I wouldn't put mint in or... Some of them are a bit mad. They go a bit crazy, don't they? How often do you use the herbs from your herb garden that you plant every year? Rosemary's there. I mean, I've got so much rosemary around my house.

They die. They die. Just put your pepper in there and be done with it. I know, but I would like some coriander, some basil, some rosemary. Why don't you... Ellie is doing a big planter of coriander

this year, she told me. Massive one. Oh, that's the pits. Oh, I love it. I really got into it. I don't get that. It's wild. Lovely.

I think you could educate yourself. No. I hate it. Isn't it funny? I love a little I really got into it. I don't get that. It's wild. Lovely. I think you could educate yourself. No. I hate it. Isn't it funny? I hate it. Because I love a little bit of cilantro. No, I hate it. I'm really bad.

Is it actually the thing of the carrot? Sorry. I know what you're saying. No, it's not. It isn't. Is it? No. Why are you looking?

I'm sure it is. No, it isn't. That's just No. Why are you looking? I'm sure it is. No, it isn't. No, it's not. That's just greenery. So you're saying... Are you going to speak or are you just... Why are you doing... So if I go into Pierce's and I buy the big fresh carrots,

Pierce's is a farm shop near us, so I get the carrots with all the big green stuff on the tops, the carrot tops. You're telling me that's coriander. You're crazy. Carrot and coriander. It is not coriander. Itot tops. You're telling me that's coriander. You're crazy. Carrot and coriander. It is not coriander. It might be.

That is just absolutely ridiculous. I think it might be. Are you both Googling? No, why should you look at that? Go on then. Parsley. Oh, same thing. It's parsley.

I never knew that. There you go. I thought it was just greens. Bollocks. Carrots, parsley, cilantro and dill are all in the same botanical family and we know that alright

I'm just telling you alright so it's I was close carrot greens make an excellent and tasty substitute for parsley I was going to say

what are you talking I'm actually being drawn in here they're herbs what herb is the top of carrots I'm sounding like a fucking knobhead

and I get dragged into it. Okay, use carrot tops anywhere you would normally... Oh. It says parsley. It says parsley. It's parsley. And then it says, use it like parsley. Fine.

So maybe it's not actually parsley. It's fine. But you should use it. It's green. Chuck it in your salad. Usable. I reckon you could put it in like a stew. I think you could put it in a

bit of a stew or what have you thank you um let's have a little listen to this good morning nat it's denise from holbridge denise denise i just had to quickly message i've just popped into local co-op to get some coffee pods and your pet peeve lady young lady in front of me, rushing out and clearly didn't have any children with her. And she's taken the only mother and baby space in the little co-op car park. And there's another lady struggling to get her buggy or, you know, the car seat out of a car because she's squashed in a tiny space. So I just had to let you know because car seat out of a car because she's squashed in a tiny space so i just

had to let you know because it really annoys me too anyway can't wait to catch up with the pod later when i'm doing the dog walk starting work now so love you bye oh fuming that give that actually fills me with rage it's just so lazy and so inconsiderate it's and i just don't get i've had so many rows i can't tell you we can imagine no because sometimes i do butt my lip but the other times i have to say something the other day i was in tesco's parked the car lovely was waiting for my friend and just watched a guy in a whole Tesco's uniform park his car in the parent and child. So he was going to also be there

for quite a significant amount. Surely not. I promise you on my life, promise you. What did you say? I didn't say anything to him because I thought, do you know what,

I'm not going to, but I just stared at him. I think you didn't say anything if I was your psychotherapist because he's in his uniform. No. You'd be scared to see him in the shop when you went in.

Absolutely not because I'll go and find his manager and you'd be scared to see him in the shop when you went in absolutely not because I'll go find his manager and I'll tell her and all or him the other day I tried to park in Sainsbury's

for about 25 minutes and then a guy got out of his car watched him park get out of the car and I was raging

so I wound the window down and I said where are your kids he said they're inside the fucking shop mind your own business I said okay so you've got it you've parked your car and your two children are just in the shop so they're not kids are they they're probably like 18 or something what do you mean but and fair enough look I don't know he might have been picking them up from a grandparent, but I was raging that I couldn't park the car and he just got the worst of me.

It's just not on. Gave it back, though. It's not on. It isn't on. You can't get the car seat out of the car. I do also think, I know we've discussed it, but I do think they're greedy and they put too many spaces in. They just need to make all spaces.

I know, but i'm just not enough parent and and people just don't like a lot of people do but someone today in the post office she sort of like tried to open the door for me but she couldn't really be bothered and i'm really struggling to get it in i'd rather you not do it then because you've just annoyed me now you just and then walked off and like the door's half open. Yeah, I find there are a lot of people that are just very miserable. Grumpy. But even in the shop, so if I'm with Ruby and Alfie, bless them, they want to help.

They're trying to carry the basket together. It's annoying, I get it. I'm constantly like, mind out the way. Get out the way. Get out the way, Troy. No, no, no. Some people literally are fuming. Yeah. I'm like like, mind out the way, get out the way, get out the way, no, no, no. Some people literally are fuming. Yeah.

I'm like, I've just got two children. I can't always come out on my own. I can't leave my kids at home. Do you know what I mean? I'm just shopping. People have got no patience. No patience.

I'm like, okay. Yeah, but I have that. If I'm looking at something and the pram's in the way and I go, oh, sorry, and they just sort of look and I think, what do you want me to do yeah

people are just miserable yeah I'm one of them that's not that's not all of the listeners by the way we're not branding you miserable well we don't know

no I'm joking no but people just no I just don't think it takes any effort to give a smile or say good morning

or thank you or hold a door open. I said good morning to a lovely older couple the other day outside Tesco. They said good morning, dear. They were very good. I love that. Some old people are well cute. And they actually address the children more as well.

Yeah, that's nice. Always look like an old woman looking in the pram. Oh, yeah. Yes. It's a funny old world. It is. I play a game sometimes. If I need to go to a shop and I just think to myself, do you know what?

If there's a space, it's meant to be, and I'm going in. If there's not, I'm leaving. I do that. Do you? Yeah. I did it. When was it on? Yesterday.

I thought, do I go Tesco's? And I couldn't be bothered to park in the actual car park you know you've got them bays the one near me oh really you were really testing so I thought do you know what

if there's a if a bay's free I'll go if not it's not meant to be and I'll go Asda literally drove a car come out

and I went in see meant to be so good I feel like I'm quite a lucky I'm quite lucky with parking oh yeah you like always get a cheeky space

always but I have got patience, I will drive around a couple of times I mean the patience I had at Christmas around Brookfield oh my god I've never experienced anything like I'll never do that again I have to say that Christmas parking I feel like it wasn't that busy this year

when was I there though? Christmas Eve was it or the day before? maybe I don't remember wasn't that busy this year when did I when was I there though Christmas Eve was it or the day before maybe just yeah and the I don't remember the parent child thing they were literally just row

like people were just waiting oh it was crazy I mean I did yeah I was patient I got one in the end but it was nuts let's have a listen to this

hey Nat it's Claire from Swanley here I am just sitting in Swanley Park on my morning walk. I've just had my hot chocolate and sausage sandwich. I'm watching the ducks. Lovely. I'm sitting on Linda's bench. I don't know who Linda is, but her family have put a bench here.

So I always think I'd have a little sit with Linda and just send a little thought out to her. I'm just listening to your episode on my walk. I'm just like, I've been heavily catching up with the podcast, been listening from day one, but fell behind a bit. But I've just caught up with the most recent Nats Nises episode. Oh my God, I love you girls. You're hilarious. But you were saying about photographs.

You were mentioning about photographs and how you like the ones that, you know, people aren't aware they're having their pictures taken and they're the most natural ones. But do you know what I find is really sad is that people don't do that anymore because everything's taken on phones or it's selfies or it's posed and pouted and kind of filtered and I just think those old school photographs that we've all grown up with they're going to be a thing of the past and I find that really sad that people aren't going to have those kind of albums and photographs up everywhere um

yeah it was just something I was pondering what do you think about that like do you encourage that people aren't going to have those kind of albums and photographs up everywhere. Yeah, it was just something I was pondering. What do you think about that? Do you encourage your girls to take these kind of photographs and do you make photo books up and stuff? Anyway, I'm going to keep listening now and watching The Ducks and the Mutant Swans on Swanley Park. I'll speak to you soon, hopefully. Bye. Sounds beautiful. Where's Swanley Park?

It's where Mark and his dad there was a railway there so that's where Mark's love of steam engines started which is why Kentway

Kent yeah Swanley oh nice but she likes to tell me she's in Swanley Park and it reminds her of so what I would say is

you're right I don't make the girls do that I need to really get out the old pictures and show them the pictures I know it's just different times it's a really good point

because I was looking at some of the photos we could bring it back just bring back doing the photos we say can you take a photo of me someone takes it you look at it you go it's disgusting let's just do a selfie I look at Christmas and some lovely photos of us all but I'm literally in the same position the whole time

because I'm always taking the photo. I know, but that's because you don't like other people taking your photo. Because people go, I can't do it, I can't do it. I mean, I do take quite a lot of photos of, you know, like if Jack's just laying with the baby or something, I'll just take a photo. Yeah, but no one ever does it. I bet you've not got many like that.

Yeah, Jack does take a lot. Yeah. We've got loads of photos he does take quite a lot that's good yeah that is good but yeah but even us as kids or growing up we used to spend hours we'd get all mum's photo albums out and we'd just look through them watch home video we used to love that well i have to say the kids love watching any kind of videos i found over christmas some school plays of Eliza's. Yeah, she was sending me some.

She loves old photos and videos. She's obsessed with old photos and videos. Oh, that's being in the past, all the nativities and stuff. You're not allowed to film them. No, but they do a DVD. Don't do that. Not allowed. Eh?

No. Don't do it anymore. Nothing. But all my girls, well, some of my girls sent me videos of their girls, so they're allowed to video it. Really? Our school's like, no. I think it's no videos, but people still video.

No, I didn't see one person videoing. Well, I like that because you're never in the moment. You're never watching the assembly or watching the play. Everyone's got a phone out. I find it bamboozling. I've never got mine out. I'm videoing all songs at a concert that you never look back on mad but why do it i don't know why people do that i've done it for you yeah i know i i do it i'm not like when i videoed

the fireworks when we were in ibiza mel was like what are you doing and videoing all these fireworks she's like you're never gonna look at them was that when we saw a reachy uh because he's dead now yeah that's quite a nice moment that you captured. For fuck's sake. Just quickly, the lack of refund. Not much of a reaction. I think, to be honest, I'm glad that the whole thing is sort of put to bed. It's not, is it?

Because I haven't got my money back and I've still got to order chairs from them. Yeah, but that you can't do. But what do I do? I have to. I've only got two. I need another two. She needs the chairs.

Oh, I see. They've got me by the short and curlies. Oh, I don't know what to say. That's mad though, they've stolen my money. I have no goods. Yeah, but if you haven't had a proof of return, that worries me. But then someone physically came to pick it up, right? Yes.

And you've got 100 photos, because all you do is take photos and videos of these poor delivery people. Anyway. They're photos from the past. They're not posing. Those delivery men their memories don't guys it's really bad

this is my email I'm such a dick yeah no confirmation all the best he probably got so annoyed he probably just dumped it down the end of the road

I don't I need that money I need to order another one anyway the bed what's the bed what are you talking about so obviously I had all my headboard done right and I thought of it I thought to myself this morning about my bed

never looks nice made and then I was on Instagram and they'd like shared a story and I clicked on it and it's this house that's had their headboard done yeah and it all looks beautiful or my bed never looks like that how do people get their bed made and it looks it's a skill no because you need to get the cushions and all that no no but even when i've when i've slept on it it's increased it doesn't look nice i know what you mean yeah so i'm sorry that no one's bed can look like that my cleaner is the only person that can do it and I don't get it. I can do mine with time but I do something weird don't I Maria? You do lots of weird things. No but with the bed

making you can't believe it. Mine's very up so at the end of my bed I don't have my duvet hanging down. So you have the bed sheet hanging you can see the end of the bed her duvet

she puts it right up to the headboard so then the end of it is like flat on the yeah that's awful the pillow I've started pulling it down

thank god for that I think your voice is in my head when I make the bed now and then she pulls it down so far you can't see the fucking thing

that sticks out so every time you walk in the room you smash your leg in fact that bed you need a new bed because it's so bad I can't wait to get new

that is so odd though where did you learn to do that I don't know you've got to have a bit but I'm saying tight Maria does it all tight

fitted it looks like a showroom you're not sleeping on that and making that bed look like that again but what's on top of it yeah your mum makes a bed like that yeah my mum can make a bed

I don't get it. So now, basically, I, well, I have done for a long time. I just, I don't even make the bed properly. Do you fold it back? Yeah, I do that. And the bed. Yeah, I do that. And people think that's weird, but I like that.

No, no, I think that's good. Bed bugs. Yeah. In the summer, especially, windows open. And the bed. Bish, bosh, bosh. What? Bish, bosh, bosh.

Bish. A bish, a bosh, a bosh. A bish, a bosh bish bosh bosh a bish a bosh a bosh a bish a bosh a bosh a bish a bosh a bish a bish a bosh I do it do you air the bed do you pour yours yeah I do

I don't fucking make the bed every time I go in there the bed's not made yeah there's loads of times that blows my mind if in the morning well can I not be rude

maybe an argument maybe brewing but if I leave the house in the morning well can I not be rude maybe an argument maybe brewing but if I leave the house in a rush then I've not made it but if Mark's in it but some days he makes a bed

better than me yeah I can imagine he makes a bed like a hotel bed he does a good bed but some days yes some days the bed's made

some days it ain't I'd hate to get in the bed that's unmade no but a lot of yeah you'd I'd come home I'd make the bed before I would not get in an unmade bed but some people don't make the bed no I knowmade no but a lot of yeah you'd I'd come home I'd make the bed

before I would not get in an unmade bed but some people don't make the bed no I know what do you mean what do they do just leave it

they can't yeah they do loads of people do yeah but what do you mean they get out the bed and just leave

and leave it and then get back in it again that to me I could never it's like once the bed do the number I don't believe it. And then get back in it again. That, to me, I could never. It's like once the bed, do the number. I don't know it. 0-7-7-8-20-19-19.

Do you make your bed? Every day. I have to say, there's nothing in it. It doesn't matter. Whatever you want. Do you make your bed? Don't you make your bed? And when do you change your bed?

I've got something to tell you. I've got something to tell you. I've spoken about this, spoken about this i think every two weeks yeah well i'll tell you what it wasn't you don't it wasn't i do usually but it wasn't your phil fuck yeah it really wasn't she's so christmas the kids beds mine i changed oh the are changed. Oh, the kids' I don't change. The kids'. I think it was nearly a month. Oh, yeah, the kids', that's all right. Why? They don't.

Well, my kids do sweat, actually. No. Milk. No. That's all right. Bad, isn't it? Two weeks, guys. Oh, not the kids'.

Mine, yeah, but not the kids'. No. Should be every two weeks. It should be every two weeks. should be every two weeks as well definitely well they're in it every night aren't they they're not getting into bed filthy though no they have a bath before bed it's like the feet thing every two weeks but yeah my bed will never i've got all new bed linen yeah but can i just say something about your room at the moment you do have quite a large object next to the bed,

so you can't really make the bed. No, that is true. You can't physically... But I could pull the snooze pod out and do it. Yes, you could. But it still doesn't look how I want it to look. It doesn't look clean. You should steam.

Yeah, I've got so much time to steam it. What else are you doing? No, I've just about got time to make the bed in the morning when he's hungry and whatever. But no, it will never look like that. But it's all right. It's okay. Just a load of pillows to cover it.

Yeah, but then who can be bothered? Then you've got to take all them pillows off the bed. Cushions, not pillows. Take them off every night. Nah, not for me. It's like the houses you see on Instagram and the lounges. There's 28 blankets folded up on a sofa. And I think, how do you sit on the sofa then?

Do they take them all off after? Yes. Or is that just for photos? I just wonder. And all the cushions. All the cushions. All the ones like that. I've got 15,000 cushions.

But it's the back, isn't it? But they are all like, feathers all coming out of them. Yeah, so. It's just for Instagram, isn't it? And I'm all like, feathers all coming out of them, yeah, so. It's just for Instagram, isn't it? And I'm sure it doesn't look like that all the time. No. Tell you what, though, I do need to do my wardrobes out.

I'm joking. You're not joking, are you? No, I'm not. She's not. She said it's Sunday, I'm going to go home and do my wardrobes. Did she? Did she?

And did you do them? No. No. I said, I don't get it. I don't know what's in the wardrobes. I've got to show you my wardrobe. Oh, God. No.

Hang on a sec. What do you mean? You're going to be so proud. You know I've got my Christmas decks in here. I don't know what that is there. What is... Oh, okay. Yeah.

What do you mean? For the purposes of the pod, tell me what I'm doing. Sorry. She's revealed behind the curtain, sliding wardrobe. Which has always been there. Well, it's been in there, though. I've got my Christmas decorations. Yeah.

Right. Mark's packed them away so nicely. Yeah. I've got all my coats here now. Beautiful. Well done. Stunning. Yeah, well, everything was just chucked in there.

Yeah. Yeah, you, yeah, this is the thing. Right, I know, I know, I know, I know. I'm that guy, sorry. I bet you miss me. I understand. But what I'm saying is once it's organised, you create more room. Yes, you do.

That's what I need to do because I've got still Christmas, the kids' toys, boxes stacked. Yeah, but by the time you do that, you'll be organising something else. We did all cupboards out and I feel like they all need doing again downstairs. Yeah, it's impossible. Well, I paid someone £100 or whatever it was to come around and do them. £100? Absolutely pointless.

And the rest? Maybe it was more. Pointless exercise for me. Told you. Not necessary. No. Waste of money for me. Because things don't stay as they...

They just don't stay as they are. Oh, mine have stayed where they are. Yeah, no, mine haven haven't and i'd rather just do that when i've got time myself it's hard isn't it yeah yeah with kids and stuff as well yeah and also i just think let kids be kids i'm so getting more and more relaxed i just think they've got to play they've got to play with stuff they should have things out all these things get bought and i'm hiding them and tucking them away if the leg goes out the leg goes out she's playing with it

if she wants a puzzle out like and you've got the space it's not like in four years time she's not going to like any of it everything's going to be gone there's going to be no toys left

and I'll think oh remember that she had all those toys that I never let her play with that's mad though you're coming up to the stage where you will never have toys well I will

because I'll keep some for your children so hold on where are we at this year nine yeah she'll still have toys

but I'm saying the next few years it's a big big clear out stage you'll still have bits but yeah

mad I've loads of room in cupboards though yeah lovely and then I'm just mine's all going to start My corner's already Been taken over

I mean my house has taken over It's crazy But Yeah like you say Look how quickly the time goes And then And then that's it Then it'll be

Fly in the nest and Oh god I don't think about that Jesus Are they? Nah they're not going anywhere Where are they going? Nah hopefully not

they'll be staying around hopefully yeah 100% oh no oh god what's she done now? dropped my phone

we had a nice evening Saturday didn't we? yeah we had a really nice time oh yeah it was lovely no you went there I know we got a bit drunk didn't we?

we did we had a good time we had a little listen to some music we had a bit drunk, didn't we? We did. We had a good time. We had a little listen to some music. Music. We had a little boogie, didn't we, in the lounge? Boogie? You did. I had a boogie.

And it went very random, didn't it? We were playing Italian songs. Yeah, I can't remember. I can't believe no one called me for Who Wants to Be a Millionaire. Well, no one phoned a friend, bar me. And you didn't call me? No, I called Jimbo and he fucked it right up. We played The Traitors.

Was that good? No, not the board game. Joni just wanted us to be traitors for the whole evening. And it was quite funny to me. Everyone thought I was one and I wasn't. Mark turned against me right at the last minute. That's brilliant. Very good.

But I feel we were saying. Oh, please explain this because I think we've got to do it. I'm going to explain it to you. I feel we could, as a family. Do it. Play it, but over a six-week period. How? So I'll be Claudia.

Of course. Obsessed. Obviously. But I can text who's a traitor or who's a faithful. Yeah. But we can do missions. Like, for instance, I said I could text Dominic and say, within the next three days, you need to drop something round to Maria's randomly.

And I need to know you've done that. Or mention a sentence. Yeah, but I'm going to know. But I can come up with things no you won't know because Dom never comes around and

drops things off randomly no but I'm just as a you know yeah but it might be and Lisa's asked me to do it alright I'll do it

and then but you need to tell the traitors who that's good you need to tell so then the traitors have to meet or whether that's

no or they do a FaceTime with me that's good and then we have to find and we have to ban have to meet or whether that's a FaceTime. No, they do a FaceTime with me. Oh, yeah, that's good. And then we have to find... Yes, let's do it. And we have to banish. Let's do it. Let's do it.

But we can make our own one up. All right, let's do it. We can apply now for the traitors. You need to apply, you two. Yeah, you... No, I can't do it. I can't. Oh, no, you can't.

I'd be so bad at it. Yeah, but also, it's three weeks away from home. Happy days. Yeah, you do it. You could... I think you should do it. I'm trying to get my mate To do it with me

Well you're not both Going to get on are you Yeah we will As friends That's the whole That's the whole point No The whole

Little different thing Because they had sisters this year Yeah I think you should do it I wouldn't be any good I can Do you think I'd be good though Yeah Yeah

I think you'd be good yeah I'd have to be a traitor though Wouldn't I Well either I think you'd be good I think it'd be boring though if not being a traitor no not necessarily i'd get the ump though if i didn't plug in it again but i did a traitor special this morning it was out yesterday guys off the telly paul gorton had a little chat with tyler on the phone just saying it's a cracking episode if you like the traitors it's good though isn't it yeah i love it really good absolutely love it just really don't have a gap between them no i can't abide it it's wrong it's all wrong

but i think we should do that i think as a fat and we can report back how we're getting on can i just say that jen bought me and mark and the girls a family present i will show you it later it's called served and it's a card game So you get two packs of cards in the pack And you tell each other How long you're playing for So again, a month, six months, a year And you're not allowed to look at each other's pack of cards The kids get a pack

We get a pack And in the cards it will say No telly today Or got to go to bed early So so like parent things yeah and then they'll get drive-through day or and you can play your car you have to play your cards and you have to do it that's brilliant yeah it looks really really good we haven't started it yet that's really good i'll show you the cards it's really good there's a i I saw something on TikTok about, so you know they're doing like the cube and all of those things, but there's actually like a game show.

The traitors? No. Oh, no, just like a quiz. Like you'll stand in a circle. You can do like a music quiz or you can do like interactive. Like a live experience. Oh, a live experience. That's good.

You should do that. There's the traitors live. What does that mean? You can go, like you can do the Cube And Monopoly You can do the Traitors Oh can you? I'd love that Why don't we do it?

We should Should have done that for your birthday I know I just thought that Why don't we do a Games Night special? I'd really like to do a Games Night special In what respect? We just play We pick a game

Maybe the viewers The listeners can tell us what game we could do a live like pub quiz and everyone could get involved that's a really good idea or what you do

sorry I'm thinking on my feet here guys you've got to just bear with me bear with but we could tell them what game we're going to play

and do a play along bear with me I mean I'm just picking thoughts out of the air here. All the very best to you. No, pub quiz. I just thought we play a game and we... Who's going to want to listen to that?

Yeah, no, that is boring as hell. Is it? Yeah. We'll have a laugh. You know what we're like? Fucking stickler for the rules over here. No, yeah, you can't. Can't get anything wrong.

I mean, let's talk about it. Let's brainstorm. Yeah. Well, let us know your thoughts. You can't get anything wrong. I mean, let's talk about it. Let's brainstorm. Well, let us know your thoughts. That's what I'd say. Yeah. I think a live pub quiz night would be good over Instagram. Yeah. Because you do good questions, don't you?

No, I'm not going to start doing questions. I ain't got time for all that. We'll just get one. Oh. Buy one. What do you mean? I can't sit there doing a quiz. No, fair one. What do you mean? I can't sit there doing a quiz.

No, fair enough. You've got merchandise to sort out. How's that going? Any danger? I'm not well. Give me a break. Unbelievable.

Unbelievable. No, I hope you feel better. I need to get better. Just let me recover. Can you try and rest? What is your week looking like? I'm working. I'm going to try

and work from home. But with the weekend. I'm out. So this is what I mean. from home. But the weekend. I'm out. So this is what I mean. You can't say you're ill and then go out. True. I did nothing this weekend. If I'm ill, if I get ill and she ruins my birthday.

Finished, Dan. Yeah. I'm going to be really fuming me out. Elliot, what do you want me to do? This has been brewing. I feel like it's just been there. No, I wasn't ill over Christmas. Thank you very much

No you were fine actually That was three weeks ago Right What are we talking about Christmas for? You had norovirus You had a sore throat That was beginning of December Do you remember I said

Oh at least I won't be ill for Christmas Right Got hit with the old Neuro Neurovirus Anyway No I do wish you better Can we do some fun stuff So we've got some fun stuff to talk about

Oh yeah Well we're going to have fun Oh yeah we can talk about our fun night I look forward to hearing about it We shall see What are you doing for your birthday sweetheart Going to London for the weekend Leaving the baby for the first time

Oh what Oh because you're doing the night Yeah Saturday night going to London for the weekend leaving the baby for the first time oh what for oh because you're doing the night yeah Saturday night yeah I thought you were

leaving him overnight is that the first time well yeah because I've always gone home and stayed oh I see that would be lovely but yeah

so we're just staying up there and just yeah going to chill just chill really nice and then go for dinner have a few drinks aww

thanks everybody for listening let us know your thoughts on making beds because i'd quite like to go you know are you changing them are you making them what you're doing with them let's hope so um let's hope maria gets better and she uses her pill box well and for now that's it thank you so much. Ciao, ciao for now. Bye-bye. Bye. Hi, this is Chris McCausland. And this is Diane Boswell. And we've got a new podcast, haven't we, Di? We do.

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