Life with Nat - EP84: Nat’s Nieces #13
Episode Date: January 30, 2025The nieces are back in the room with me. Bringing wild accusations, the audience's chat about bed making, some advice to shake off a draining friend and pavement politics Please subscribe, follow, an...d leave a review. xxx You can find us in all places here; https://podfollow.com/lifewithnat/view INSTA: @natcass1 We're also on Facebook now too: https://www.facebook.com/lifewithnatpod A 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: hello@keepitlightmedia.com SHOW INFO: Life with Nat - it’s me! Natalie Cassidy and I’ll be chatting away to family, friends and most importantly YOU. I want to pick people's brains on the subjects that I care about- whether that’s where all the odd socks go, weight and food or kids on phones. Each week I will be letting you into my life as i chat about my week, share my thoughts on the mundane happenings as well as the serious. I have grown up in the public eye and have never changed because of it. Life with Nat is the podcast for proper people. Come join the community. ♥️ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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take it off take it off take it off take it take your mask off i know you're not wearing a mask. No, it's aggravating me
now.
Is that a
bush that I
can see behind
you?
No, it's
really annoying.
Really aggravating.
You trimmed your
bush recently.
This is all I've
had all week.
It's not yet.
No, you can't
say.
Is it?
Is it?
You know my
every move.
That's what I'm
confused about.
We would
know.
Sorry, I'm doing that. I mean, that's not annoying. It's what I'm confused about. We would know. Sorry, I'm doing that.
I mean, that's not annoying.
It's really annoying.
Well, I'm ever so sorry,
but my son is here to join us.
Ellie is just winding
baby James as we speak.
He's joined us on the pod
this evening.
Don't change the subject.
Oh.
Listen, I don't know
what to say to you.
You know my every move.
Our house.
That's what every...
In the middle of our street.
Could be me.
It does sound like me.
But it's not me.
Have you watched it?
It's weird.
No, now people have said it.
I did look at it a little bit and I thought,
my God, it actually does sound like me.
Well, I didn't watch it on the first one
and then people said it sounded like you.
I watched the second one and I was like,
it sounds nothing like you.
Yeah, I agree.
But there's still only bits of it
that's what I mean
I'm not
I do get
I get it
and the clues
I mean
I don't get it
if it is you
I don't get it
and if it is you
you're a fucking good liar
well I'm sorry
it's absolutely not me
what do you think James
what do you think
gutted though
that's a cracker to do
is it
is it
it's funny no yeah I suppose listen each it? Is it? It's funny, no?
Yeah, I suppose.
Listen, each to their own.
It's just not a real...
I mean, Macy Gray was happy.
Oh, really?
What happened?
Oh, you don't want...
She stormed off.
Fuming.
Brilliant.
Absolutely brilliant.
Okay, well, we're getting bombarded, so...
We don't know.
It's not Natalie.
It's not me.
Diane Morgan's a good shout though.
They've said that.
Oh, pardon me James.
Pardon you.
They've said Diane Morgan.
Oh, have they?
Yeah.
I mean, there was a couple of others.
I don't.
Stacey Solomon.
Or the other one from,
did they say it or someone else said that?
The one who plays his wife in Afterlife.
Carrie Godleman. Yes. And smith yeah i mean but they haven't said you but the internet is going mud well that's
strange and what the judges haven't said anything no oh i don't know what to say all right oh okay
moving on moving on how was your brilliant birthday weekend because you
all went out didn't you hilarious still coughing no we didn't go anywhere cancelled we stayed inside
the whole weekend i had a lovely weekend actually i may did nothing neither did I chilled absolutely lovely but can we
explain though
you are going
out
we are we
rebooked it for
another weekend
good
so
oh this kid
are you gonna
let me talk
but yeah a lot
of illness
baby wasn't very
well Jack
weren't well
it was just a lot
going on
it was a good
shout wasn't it
yeah
I really enjoyed
this weekend doing nothing went for a little walk with. It was a good shout, wasn't it? Yeah. I really enjoyed this weekend doing nothing.
Went for a little walk with Sophie.
That was it.
That was the only time I went out to get some food.
How was your walk with Eliza on Sunday?
Oh, it was really great.
It was amazing.
About midday?
Perfect.
It absolutely was chucking down.
We were all ready for a walk.
We dropped Joanie around to Rachel's because she would pop around there. And then we were going to go for a nice a walk. We dropped Joanie around to Rachel's because she popped around there.
And then we were going to go for a nice hour walk.
And unfortunately, the heavens opened and it was freezing.
And I said, let's go back home.
That was a bit like me today with my run.
I'm going to go and pass him on.
All right.
But I'm pleased you've been on, baby.
Bye, bubby.
Bye, everyone.
No.
No.
He's not a fan.
He's not a fan of the pub.
I did that today.
I'm still coughing.
Every time I went to go for a run, it was...
Do you see the house stones?
No.
Oh, Elias.
No, I didn't have house stones.
It was...
I've never...
I've not seen weather like it.
What, like golf balls?
Yes.
And then the sun come out for a bit, and then I was obviously working. Yeah. Then I thought, oh, I've got a've not seen weather like it what like golf balls yes and then the sun come out for a bit
and then I was obviously working
yeah
then I thought
oh I've got a bit of a break
pissed down again
but I am so proud of you
for doing your first run
for ages
I know
how was it alright
so hard
yeah
but you did it
well I went out Saturday afternoon
and yesterday morning
oh you did go out
yesterday morning
yeah I sent it to you
didn't I
oh you sent me Saturday I thought I sent you yesterday as well. Oh, maybe I missed it. And I beat
Saturday's time. I don't know if you have. Yeah. Oh my God, that's really good. And my
legs were killing today. I bet they were. So I couldn't run. But I don't know when I
would be able to run next, which is annoying now. Yeah, because you want to keep it up.
That's the thing. You ain't got to go every day no but I'm in London tomorrow so I won't be able to
no
Wednesday probably
won't be able to
oh FOMO
FOMO
FOMO
you won't be interested
in this combo
FOMO
what did I miss
we're just talking about
we're running
yeah
oh amazing
I just wrote
so maybe Friday
yeah maybe Friday
that's a long time.
It's pretty impressive to not have run for a couple of years
and then do two 5Ks in a row.
Is it?
She got all gel because Dom smashed out half a marathon
Saturday morning.
She's like, oh, look at me.
I can run.
What did he do?
Half a marathon.
In like two hours.
An hour and 46.
Well, hang on a minute.
Move over, Malfara.
Dumb Cass is in the house.
That's insane, isn't it?
Wow, that's amazing.
Oh, I've just picked.
Oh, look at that.
What?
What is that?
It's going to be really sore.
What is that?
What should I be in?
I've just picked my skin.
No, don't do that.
It's disgusting.
This is over two weeks.
Wow, well done.
And do you want to see mine after a week?
We're talking about my nails, guys.
That's impressive for me.
Very good for you.
Do you want to see mine after a week?
Yeah, can't wait.
Show me.
Oh, well done.
Well done.
That's brilliant.
Thank you.
Elia and I have our nails on, and Natalie is eating her skin.
It's red raw.
I'm not doing that now. But yeah, you know, character driven. Can't have any nails on and Natalie is eating her skin it's red raw I'm not doing that now
but yeah you know
character driven
can't have any nails on
at the moment
you know how it is
it's not nice
yeah the bush
don't have any nails
oh yeah true
what bushes have nails
oh honestly
it's really boring
I watched that programme
the other day
did you watch that programme
the other day
what programme
on George W Bush
oh she's trying
no I got one
I got one
took you ages
no it didn't
but you don't let me speak
go on
shall we listen to some music
anyone fancy some
Kate Bush
there's got to be more
yeah she's thinking now
I was going to do
we've done
anyone fancy
watching a bit of
only fools and horses
bush bush bush
bush bush bush
snowing come
to
it's a good one though
oh you just never
quite hit the spot
Natalie
now that's not normal
that's bad isn't it
sorry guys
for everyone's information
I've just picked a little bit
of skin on my thumb
and it's bleeding
apologies
no her whole
whole thumb it's alright a little like wit low oh it's gonna be so no no it's not
fortunately it's not it's on the side um we've had some lovely messages from everyone really good
all about making the bed and that we'll get into that in a minute so did you feel annoyed you didn't
go out this weekend are you happy it's like an interview so you over there you while she keeps putting that thing in
her mouth no i am was so relieved the thought of having to have a drink fills me with dread
i've literally done dry january now because of the illness which i'm not happy about the illness but
i feel like that's when you're drunk on new year's day so you're talking absolute rubbish
no you have drunk a little bit
but you've just not
drunk a lot.
You can't say
you've done dry jam.
No but I haven't
drunk for like
three weeks.
Alright well that's
not dry jam.
Well it's nearly
the whole of jam.
Well I feel like
I've done dry jam.
I mean I had a glass
and a half of red
yesterday.
Is she joking?
She was hammered
at mine last week.
I know you talk shit.
Oh yeah last week
I had a couple.
Couple?
But in terms of
the volume that I usually consume,
I've done it ever so well.
No, yeah, it's been good.
Really, really good.
But obviously we're good for you.
Yeah, I will be drinking soon.
And tonight we've got a kombucha.
What's it called?
Kombucha.
Kombucha.
I don't know what it is.
I've been poured it.
I'd just rather a glass of water, if I'm honest.
I know, but the kombucha has lots of live cultures.
Very good for your gut.
I've been reading up on it.
Okay, so where do we,
how do I buy this?
You can purchase kombucha
from any shop.
They do cans of it.
You can get kombucha,
they get them in Marks and Sainsbury's.
Chunks, how much is it?
Chunks.
I don't think it's a lot,
but Patsy Palmer bought me this.
Yeah, so you can buy it
in any supermarket,
or no, like.
You can get like cans of it.
Right.
Or fizzy bottles of it.
I think it's just like a...
But what are you...
How much are you meant to drink a day?
I haven't gone right into it.
But there's billions and billions of live cultures in it.
Right into it.
I mean, that's the basic.
That's just how much you drink.
A can a day, a bottle a day.
Don't know.
How much is this costing me?
I just think if you have one a day, it's good for your gut.
It's a bit like a prebiotic.
Sorry. Probiotic. Sorry, probiotic.
Wow.
Jesus Christ.
Sled is real.
You're right,
and I'm gutted about that.
But yeah,
I had a lovely weekend.
What did you do?
What did you do?
Nothing.
Nothing.
I mean,
saw a few people,
but just chilled.
Spent the weekend at home.
Nice chilled one.
I was going to invite you around for dinner yesterday,
but I thought you'd pine me.
Yeah.
That was the right decision.
And we had Jimbo come over.
Did a nice bit of beef.
And it was lovely.
I cooked a lovely roast yesterday.
Yeah, I did well yesterday.
I did a slug of steak, mac and cheese, homemade chips.
You would have hated my dinner yesterday.
Oh, here we go
she had some sort of ramen
noodles
some sort of pak choy
in a broth
with some
yeah
with loads of soy on it
ginger
what did you have
I'm actually liking it too
these days
just throwing it out there
I made a banging dinner
go on
ask mum
some sort of salmon
salmon on a sundae
teriyaki teriyaki salmon with like salmon salmon on a Sunday teriyaki
teriyaki salmon
with like a rice
on a Sunday
should be illegal
that should be illegal
salmon on a Sunday
I mean salmon
Friday, Saturday, Sunday
salmon Sunday
salmon is a Monday dinner
at a push Tuesday
I know but I really was
you know
I just couldn't do it
okay so what did you have
I had with what do it okay so what did you have I had
with what
salmon
it was like
honey
soy
chilli
garlic
and what veg
wait for it
tender stem broccoli
munched too
munched too
I did a really nice
like special fried rice
right
with soy
on a Sunday
that is the worst
so I would not eat
it was really nice it was very filling very refreshing not a Sunday that is the worst I would not eat it was really nice
it was very filling
very refreshing
not a Sunday
that's a Monday
Tuesday day
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2019
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please let us know
a weird dinner
that you like to eat
on a Sunday
no I don't
usually eat that
but I didn't want pasta
I had pasta the night before
it's a good talking point though
I didn't
yeah no it's great
I didn't want
I don't I'm not a roast girl, am I?
I'd only eat it if you lot cook it.
I don't, I rarely cook a roast.
Yeah.
Shepherd's pie, I didn't fancy it.
Didn't fancy a stew.
Chili, pie.
Oh, chili.
I have certain dinners for different days.
Oh, I get that.
Like a Thursday, we start to get.
Oh, let's dig down.
Let's dig down.
Well, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday is like your basic. That's like a chicken and we start to get down let's dig down well monday tuesday wednesday is like
your basic that's like a chicken and a bit of veg to me they're like your your days of sort of
standard your fish do you know what i mean yeah and then your thursday you can get a bit excited
you could have a little pie and mash do you know what i mean i do but if i ate a pie and mash every
week i won't be able to fit outside the house.
Well, no, that's not every week.
I'm just using that as an example.
I'll say Thursday, I feel a bit more quirky.
Oh, do you?
But Thursday for me, I like a drink Thursday night.
So what you don't eat?
No, I mean, I like Thursday for me, it's the fun night.
Yeah, so what will you eat?
I don't know.
I mean, they don't do dinners.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't know what she's talking about.
Friday.
What are you eating?
You don't eat.
You will eat different things.
We do throughout the week.
At the moment, though,
because I'm just trying to have a little sort of start,
kickstart to me feeling a little bit healthy.
And I have overeaten.
I've put a bit of weight on,
which is no issue, but I just want to get a little bit off, feel a bitaten I've put a bit of weight on which is no issue
but I just want to get
a little bit off
feel a bit better
so tonight I'm having
bacon and eggs
with a slice of sourdough
oh that is fucking grim
and you're rinsing me up
about salmon
on a Sunday
I've got bolognese tonight
I love bolognese
especially yours
and do you know what
I bought in M&S
go on
Wagyu beef mince
so I picked it up
but that is mad
for a Monday night
I know
I know
don't
that's like a Saturday night
I did it
yes but we bought it
on the
not meant
all our dinners got confused
so we bought it all Saturday
and it went a bit wrong
all your dinners got
I don't know
I don't know
I don't know
what day of the week it is
I don't know what Ellie is eating
I'm so confused
well we ended up getting
a takeaway Saturday instead of cooking,
so it threw us out of sorts.
What are you having tomorrow then?
We're out.
Oh, shit.
I keep forgetting that I'm out.
I mean, Jack had to tell me at four o'clock today that I'm out tomorrow
and I've made plans, so I now need to cancel them.
Wow.
I forgot.
It happened really quick.
Maria got me tickets to see Devil Wears Prada.
That sounds brilliant.
It's meant to be a great show.
How lovely is that?
I haven't been to the theatre for ages.
Elton John wrote all the music for it, didn't they?
I think it's going to be good.
Yeah, I've heard good things.
But yeah, so basically Sunday what I was meant to cook was lamb shanks.
I'm not going to be eating that on a Wednesday
absolutely not
so I think
that maybe that could be
the Thursday dinner
will they last that long
yeah it's lamb isn't it
why don't you freeze it
and then have them
sundae and a sauce
because we're not here
oh sorry
I don't know
and this is why
I don't do
a weekly shot
no that's like
when we used to try
and do the go fresh
and all that malarkey.
Hello, Fresh.
Go Fresh.
Go Fresh, go.
What's wrong with me?
I've got problems.
What's wrong with you?
Hello, Fresh.
Yeah, what about that?
You can't do it.
No, but I used to only do that three nights a week.
Yeah, and when I did the Gusto.
I like the Gusto better.
Gusto.
I was like, what?
Gusto. Is it Gusto? Just Gusto. Gusto. Gusto. I like the gusto better than goose I was like what's goose is it gusto
just gusto
gusto
gusto
gusto
goose fat
I thought she was
talking about
when I cooked
the gusto
when I cooked
the gusto
yeah
when I put it
in the oven though
that's what you
thought I was saying
the gusto
gusto gusto the gusto gusto
gusto
the meals
gusto
with gusto
say it with gusto
but I used to do
three
yeah you can only do
three
because you guarantee
someone
you'll have some
yeah but I'd be
fuming on a Friday night
I wouldn't want that
I wouldn't want that
you don't know
what you've ordered
you don't know what you've ordered. What do you mean you wouldn't want that?
You don't know what you've ordered.
150 mils on there.
Could be a steak.
I wouldn't want that.
Crab lasagna or something.
A bit posh.
Crab lasagna.
Oh, that sounds grim.
That sounds awful.
So was the gusto a bit more fancier?
No, I think it was...
I don't know.
It's not as healthy as Hello Fresh. don't know it's not as
healthy as
Hello Fresh
right
but still good
because the
portions are
miniscule
yeah
I mean the other
food with those
meals I'm sorry
for two people
mini
you're like
hang on a minute
there's a bit of
chicken here
and there's one
breast of chicken
to feed six people
she's gone Hang on a minute, there's a bit of chicken here and there's one breast of chicken to feed six people.
She's gone.
Oh my God, that reminds me.
Do you know what?
The last pod, we were all a bit meh.
We were.
I told you on the night.
I said that was dog shit.
Pure dog shit.
No, what makes me laugh is I remember being at work and someone saying they do.
Or HelloF Fresh and being like
yeah me and my partner
so we had our meal
and then we've got leftovers
what are they
fucking mice
where are they from
the fucking Silvanian families
couple of squirrels
and the boroughs
what no
but they must have ordered
double portion
they must be ordering
for four people they're not they double portion they must be ordering for four people
they're not
they're definitely
not
wow
that shit
cray
but they do
eat little
some people eat
little meal
I'm trying to
small portion
I mean I
when we used to
do it it worked
out well
that's how big
our tummy is
a fist
okay you alright
yes I used to give Jack like three quarters and then I'd have a quarter so it worked out quite That's how big our tummy is, a fist. Okay, you all right?
Yes.
I used to give Jack like three quarters,
and then I'd have a quarter, so it worked out quite well.
Your portions are big, though, aren't they, Angel?
I mean, there'll be four of you having a bolognese,
and she'll be like,
are these 400 packets of mints going to be enough? No, no.
I'm terrible.
I'm the same.
I'm the same.
But you, the pasta, I know, I get what you're saying.
I have a normal portion.
Jack does not.
But we have a normal portion.
No.
I don't have a normal portion.
No, she has that much spaghetti.
It's pathetic.
It's ridiculous.
Absolutely embarrassing.
I don't even want to talk about it.
No, we do weigh the pasta out when we've got issues.
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Do you want to hear about my weekend?
Yeah, I would love a few voice notes, but yes, I do.
Go on, go for it.
Go for it.
No, knock yourself out.
It's the climax now.
No, go on.
What did you do?
Did you clear out your wardrobes on Sunday?
No, that was my intention.
I didn't do it.
It's your intention every fucking weekend.
I know.
I couldn't be arsed.
I went for two runs.
That's what we said earlier.
Earlier.
Earlier.
Earlier.
Alfie got a rosette from school.
Aww.
For?
For being good with his adjectives.
Aww.
He said that Paddington had an antique suitcase.
That's really good.
Aww.
So cute.
So that was cute.
And then we had a nice evening.
He watched Alice in Wonderland.
We watched it properly
oh did you enjoy it
he really enjoyed it
that's good
oh did he see
what's the name
that one from
the New Forest
Alice Liddell
Liddell
that one
do you not remember
what does she call it
yes Alice Liddell
alright good story
Liddell
Liddell
oh I saw someone
sent the Bissinger
yeah
Bissinger
my friend Linda
Bissinger
Linda D Maria
one of my dear friends
did she enjoy it
yeah she said it was nice
she said it was absolutely banging
she's a huge fan
say hello to her
hi Linda
she said
she needs us to go
she said because I feel like
I should be your friend
so she needs to come over
you've said that for years
I've been saying it
for a long long time
so why have you never done that
I think I've met Linda you have Linda at work I've said that for years I've been saying it for a long long time so why have you never done that I think I've met Linda
you have
Linda at work
Italian
yeah I've met Linda at work
but yeah
we will
we'll get together
get together in the summer
we will do that
come on over Linda
that's about it really
oh
no what else
I mean it's more so than mine
no I had a thing from school
warning about head lice
oh no I told Alfie about it and that's all he talks about oh you said and he was wanting to watch though, than mine. No, I had a thing from school warning about head lice. Oh, no.
I told Alfie about it
and that's all he talks about.
Oh, you said,
and he was wanting to watch
videos of the head lice or something?
He wants to know what they do,
what do they eat,
where do they live,
what happens if I get them.
Now he's sitting in bed,
he's like,
Mummy, I'm a witch,
my body's got that thing.
Yeah, but that happens.
It does happen,
especially with little ones
because they get panicked by it.
I mean, they haven't got head lice.
But the girls have never had it, have they?
No.
But that's mad.
We used to be all the time.
You were running alive.
Oh, I used to get them all the time.
I used to pick them out of my hair.
Yeah?
Yeah.
One of my favourite pastimes was getting the comb
and just brushing them out on slugs.
Really bad.
We used to sit in a row.
I'll shit you not.
I used to get them a lot.
Mum used to sit them.
It would be like,
tonight we're doing this
and we'd be like,
for God's sake.
I'd be doing Elliot's
and Mum would be doing mine.
That would be our evening.
I don't know,
but we always...
Grim.
Don't know.
But they say they like clean hair.
Yeah.
It's not even a...
I don't really get
why we used to get it.
See,
I wash my kids' hair every night. Is that bad, do you think? Yes. I don't think there's a used to get it. See, I wash my kids' hair every night.
Is that bad, do you think?
Yes.
I don't think there's a need to do that.
Not every night you shouldn't be washing it.
You wouldn't wash your hair every night.
No, no.
Why do I do that?
I know, but I want to eat fish fingers, chips and beans every night, but mine do.
I'm joking.
No, I don't think you need to wash their hair every night.
Absolutely not.
Yeah, but it just gets a bit ratty.
Can we just talk for one minute about Joni?
Last night, I went to bed really early.
I got into bed at half seven.
God.
And the night before?
The night before, no.
Oh, no, Friday night.
Friday we watched The Traitors and I fell asleep immediately as it went off.
What did you think?
I was a bit let down.
Same, same, same. Only because there wasn't... Yeah, you just knew it went off. What did you think? I was a bit let down. Same, same, same.
Only because there wasn't, you knew that,
yeah, you just knew it was all faithful, didn't you?
But I fell asleep on the sofa at 10,
woke up at 20 past one in the morning,
went to bed, got up at nine.
Oh, that would really annoy me.
No, I love going to sleep on the sofa.
And you go back to sleep straight away.
I don't enjoy that, no.
Immediately back to sleep.
And then last night, did the roast.
I genuinely mean this.
I just poured a really nice bottle of wine into a carafe for me and Mark.
I had one glass.
Didn't want it.
Did all the dinner.
Stopped.
We all washed up.
I said, I've got to get into bed.
I'm exhausted.
Got into bed at half seven.
Where were your children?
I was reading and stuff.
Eliza come up, sat with me for a bit.
Joni went well.
She went to bed at quarter to seven.
Got her into bed.
Four o'clock this morning oh no
Joanie comes in
I gave her a bit of cowpul
before bed
because she was a bit warm
but she was okay
that's weird
because I did exactly the same
with Ruby yesterday
half five
she fell asleep on the sofa
woke up at six
I thought I'm going to try
and give her a bottle
and put her straight into bed
no
then she was up to about
nine, half nine
oh shocker oh wow yeah so no she would
come into the bed but i don't mind because they want you don't know as kids they want you
but the coughing and spluttering all over me for two hours all night i was like joni cover your
mouth joni all night and i thought i haven't got time to be ill please don't let me be ill
so i got up six o'clock i was up i had a lovely baking hot shower but I have got a little cold sore coming
getting run down
both got cold sore
all the way
it's getting everyone
evil
I haven't got time
though I'm scared
yeah the cold sore's grim
you can stay away
I've got the
when I went to Greece
I bought all the cold sore
tablets
because you can't get them
in this country
which is a piss take
oh really
who told you to do that
you
thank you
touch wood
we're not cold sore people are we you and what ulcers You can't get them in this country, which is a piss taste. Oh, really? Who told you to do that? You. Thank you. Touch wood.
We're not cold sore people, are we?
Are you?
And what ulcers?
I can get a cold sore. I get ulcers and cold sores.
However, one thing I have been doing recently is the kids have been going straight into their bed at night.
Well, that is brilliant.
But it's hell on earth.
Does anyone else have this with their children?
Of course I do.
You're mad.
To stand there with them.
You've got to stand there.
The whole evening.
What do you mean though?
How long?
Hours.
Yeah, it's good that long.
Ruby's quite good,
but then Alfie is like,
he wants a book,
then another book,
then he was hungry,
it's all that.
What's it called?
Delay tactics.
I know, but Joanie's nearly nine in August
and I don't spend less than 35 minutes with her in the evening.
Yeah, it's mad.
I thought sleep patches, sleep spray.
But it's good.
It's good.
Try and enjoy it.
But after an hour, an hour's no longer.
No, but do you know what?
I must say, usually I get really stressed.
And now I'm like, do you know what?
If that's my evening, that's my evening.
But also, maybe you need to try, and like you do with small,
and I'm only i mean i don't
know if it works with them go on but try walking away so even leaving the book with him and saying
i'll be back late down i'll be back in a minute and then go back and then leave the room rather
than actually i know you can't really do much in that time but you can go and take your makeup off
yeah no absolutely that's why I let him read a bit
but try a little bit
yeah
and then
then he'll start
falling asleep on his
own hopefully
and then that will
just shorten and
shorten
and he's been good
because he's been
not waking up and
staying in his bed
whereas Ruby's still
been getting up in
the night
I wake up in the
morning sometimes
she's just there
I know
but she's three
I know
they are little
yeah
they are little
she's only three
but I'm proud that I've done that
because I was got in a bad habit of them in my bed falling asleep and then carrying them in I
thought nope that's it now yeah they're going straight in their bed it's good so we seem to
be grasping that a little bit that is good well I um I I don't know if you've seen it in accident
well I say social media but I was saying to someone the other day, like Megan McKenna, about the self-soothing.
So obviously with baby, he now will lay in his bed and he'll go to sleep.
Yeah.
But Megan McKenna has been doing much the same.
Who's Megan McKenna?
Just reality stuff.
Okay, yeah.
But she's done some music.
Anyway, she's been putting some videos up of her little boy.
And he's literally the same age as baby and um the ag that she has been given for it oh really oh my god it's
horrendous but i'm surprised at that why because leaving them leaving him to cry he's not crying
he's sort of you know when they you can tell they're falling asleep but they're doing that
he's not screaming yeah but it's keyboard
it's keyboard warriors
they are going in at her
and I feel for her
and then I'm reading the comments
and then you're
and then I feel bad
so then I'm like
googling it
thinking is this
and I'm like no
I know he's fine
he's not crying
and I'm in the room
I'll you know
take my makeup off
put my pyjamas on
while he's settling himself
that is crazy
yeah
like you just
like nothing you'll do is ever right no you've just got to do what you want to do you feel is crazy yeah like you just like nothing you'll do
is ever right
no you've just got to do
what you want to do
you feel is best
absolutely
in every
in every
everything
people rocking their baby
people will say
you shouldn't be standing there
for 40 minutes doing that
but unfortunately
until
you know your child
you know your lifestyle
and how you want to live it
it's down to you
no but it's the same as anything
you should
have this much sleep
have six hours sleep,
have eight hours sleep, do this, do that, everything.
All children are different and you get to know what they,
you know, like you with Joni, she wakes up early.
That's not going to change.
She's never going to change.
She'll always be up at half six, although it has got better.
Half six is probably seven-ish now,
but then she goes to bed a little bit later.
Yeah.
But also she's getting a bit older
maybe brain developing
and stuff
yeah I just thought
that was quite interesting
oh bless her
but I have been productive
this weekend
in the sense of
I've booked opticians
dentists
that's good
yeah that is good
I've booked Delphi Karate
oh
yeah I love that
she really wanted to do it
Karate is so good
and how's Ruby
enjoying her little drama?
Yeah, she really enjoys it.
She's going to turn into one of these mums
where they're doing something every night of the week.
Well, no, this is, I have, well, it's swimming, football.
Yeah, but it's what happens.
Two kids think a couple of things each.
But when they show an interest in something,
it's like, how can you not do it?
No, it's good.
The only thing missing for me is the instrument,
but that will come in time.
Yeah, again, they're three and five.
Yeah, they're little, aren't they?
Get on the piano, Alfie.
They do.
You can do that now in his age.
No, I know, but give him.
I mean, Joanie was, but also.
But that's her thing that she, you know, give him a rest.
He loves his football karate.
That's brilliant for him.
Ruby might be the one with the instrument.
No, I'd like them both to play instruments.
But what if they don't want to?
What do you mean?
Well, they've got to try it.
And what if they don't want to? Well, then I'll be a bit've got to try it, haven't they? And what if they don't want to?
Well, then I'll be a bit sad, but I'll try.
That's only because you're living through your children.
That's what I did.
Because I've always wanted to play the piano.
Yeah, because I think it's lovely when people can just pick up and play the instrument.
I think it's a shame.
Well, can you just do the guitar then so that when we're all together,
we can smash out the guitar and we can all sing Oasis.
But the drama school thing on a Saturday it's lovely
but it's very restricting
isn't it
yes
for your day
yeah it's mad
what do you do
go for your run
I've got healthy darling
so on Saturday
I took Kim to the park
but then that's nice time
with you two together
yeah it is
but do you know what
I realise I'm not a park
sort of person
well you better get used to it
I don't like it.
Boring, isn't it?
Yeah, it's quite boring.
Yeah, but also in that time you should maybe meet up with friends,
with their kids.
It's an hour and a half, it goes like that.
By the time you've dropped them.
Yeah, but if someone meets at the park,
even one of the school friends.
It needs to be organised.
You should just, you know.
That's what me and Maria Green used to do.
It was always quite nice just to have an hour.
Yeah.
Quick coffee, little chat, and then you go and get your kids.
Yeah, yeah, fine.
It is worth it.
Have a little catch up with the kids.
Also, even little things.
When James is a bit older and he's going in a swing,
in the summer, for example, we could easily do that.
Yeah, no, definitely.
I know it's not for Alfie, but it's still nice.
No, it is nice.
The only good thing about it is, though, if you have got plans,
if you let them know far enough in advance,
they don't charge you for that session, which I think is really good.
Oh, yeah, that is good.
You've got a wedding or holiday.
Yeah, exactly.
That is really good.
I do worry about the summer, that it's going to get a bit hectic,
but hey-ho, we'll see how it goes.
See what happens.
You can always maybe just block a couple out.
Yeah, now I'm just, yeah, club mum.
And not in the club.
Not in the club.
Not in the club.
Taking them to clubs.
As long as it's those clubs.
We'll stick with those.
Yeah, absolutely.
Shall we do a little bit of correspondence?
Let's.
Because we've had loads of messages.
I haven't got my phone, so.
That's all right. Natalie's got hers. I'm joking that is got hers all right guys you know it's just a joke
jesus obsessed with the phone just caught sorry just caught up on the last two pods and what
i picked me up when i have been generally feeling shitty january and all that thanks to you and
tony a curry is now top of my agenda as As far as beds go, I am one for changing mine
and the girls' beds once a week, but that's just me.
Talking about the miserable and rude people,
I like to compliment or share a nicer tea with someone wherever I go,
be it Costa for a coffee, Sanos.
She's used Sanos, the girl.
Sanos.
Oh, Sanos.
Oh, my God.
We need to do you a dictionary, I think.
Where's your whiteboard?
It's over here.
Oh, that lasted long.
We'll get it out and use it.
I've had no reason to put anything on there.
Carry on with your voice, with your message.
That was it, really.
Lovely.
It's just nice to hear from you.
Once a week, she changes the bed.
Wow.
We are, well, yeah, I mean, to be fair,
I read all the messages and stuff about changing the bed, and I thought people would be a bit more liberal. We are, well, yeah, I mean, to be fair, I read all the messages and stuff about changing the bed
and I thought people
would be a bit more liberal.
We are scumbags.
Yeah,
we're scumbags.
Filthy bastards.
Absolutely.
No.
Talking of rude people,
I've noticed,
Natalie,
you would have noticed this.
Go on.
Sorry,
it was no offence.
When you're running,
I mean,
sorry babe,
no,
I'm just saying,
when you're on a run,
some people don't like to move out the way, do they?
Oh, no.
Why is that?
Sorry, even when you're walking with a pram,
people just walk in front of you.
Actually, mums with prams are a bit rude at the old runners.
Oh, I think we've got to be careful.
We can't tire everyone with the same brush. No, I'm not'm just saying some of them on my run down the river you've had
some experiences they don't like to move out the way yeah you should move out the way i'd move out
the way yeah i know i think it's a two-way thing that i will always do my thing to help someone
there's a lot but there's some people that literally just do not move and i'm like wow
there's a lot to talk about there because I used to do a lot of canal, river running.
Yeah.
River, river, river.
And you've got the bikes with the bells and the prams and the people.
And the dogs and the children.
Just a lot to get through.
Yeah, I get it.
I get it.
But for me, if I'm walking and there's someone running, I will always step out the way.
Yes.
Always.
Yeah, agreed. Yes. Always. Yeah, agreed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If I'm walking slow, I always move to the side
and let the people go in front of me.
It's the same as if someone's on their bike, you know,
they can't stop so you move out the way,
but then for some reason runners, some people just don't like to move.
And I'm always very conscious of dogs,
so I will slow down a little bit, do you know what I mean?
Yeah, so to not frighten them or then bite you.
No, so I don't frighten them.
Yeah, fair enough.
I think your little run is going to frighten a dog.
I mean, what am I listening to?
Some little cyclist, yeah, not you running.
Some little dog's might.
You're not bolting, you're doing the little run.
You should have seen me.
Hi, Nat.
I'm just finished catching up with um you of your nieces and I'm sorry it's Denise from Holbridge I feel like I'm a stalker
because I've just heard myself from the pod but I just wanted to quickly jump on to say um yeah I
won't leave the house without making the bed and rearranging the cushions and all that stuff that
my husband goes absolutely mad about because all I have to do is chuck them all off at night but yeah it's something I think
from a little girl um I just had it in me that oh if anything happens to me I want people to
see my room and my bed's all made and it all looks neat and tidy and I tend to change the bed every
other week in the winter and probably every week in the summer anyway fair play keep
keep on keeping on because it just brightens my day all of your pods i love them all thanks denise
yeah taking all those cushions off the bed every night nah hey now just finished listening to
latest nieces of course i make my bloody bed every day Jesus I understand not making it if
someone's in it but if you get out of it and it's empty make your bed it's the start of your day
it's it's tidy tidy room tidy mind all that shit but yes have to make my bed can't get into an
unmade bed would never leave a bed unmade unless someone was in it.
Second thing, the pub quiz thing. I don't know if you've heard of Jay's daily quiz.
Jay used to do the quiz on a Thursday morning with Zoe Ball on Radio 2 and he's absolutely brilliant. brilliant i really think you should look into potentially getting jay to come on your pod
and ask quiz questions to you and the nieces yeah i think about that he normally does five
maybe he could do a few more and we could do it as a play along um anyway sorry this message has
gone over one minute and i love you lots uh rachel in lincolnshire bye I don't mind that it's long Rachel
because it was a cracker I don't I can't
remember Jay though and I am an avid
BBC Radio 2 listener
let's do it I'm up for it
someone else mentioned an app called Kahoot
yeah we used to use that
and we do a Kahoot with everyone
yeah with everybody yes we could do that
someone said you can play with what different games
or quizzes
you can write your own quiz I could do a little Someone said you can play with different games or quizzes.
You can write your own quiz.
I could do a little quiz.
Yeah, I've never heard of it.
Obviously, you know, but someone mentioned that we could all link together.
Just regarding the bed.
Yep.
Absolutely make the bed every day.
The only time I won't make the bed is if I'm in a hotel.
Oh, absolutely not.
Never.
They can make the bed.
That's what we're paying for.
Fine.
Just to clarify.
Or I don't make the bed on a Thursday when I've got the cleaner. Never. They can make the bed. That's what we're paying for. Fine, just to clarify. Or I don't make the bed on a Thursday when I've got the cleaner.
Wow.
She does it.
What do you mean?
That is awful. It's not.
It's the best night of my life.
I mean, I have to say sometimes that's because if I've come down with a baby.
So you're going to make your bed for the cleaner to remake it.
What's the point?
Oh, no.
It doesn't need to be remade if I've made it.
Oh, leave off.
Or sometimes if I've come down and I go back up,
she's already here and done it.
No, because that is the best.
That Thursday night is proper.
She's made the bed.
Oh, yeah, we've got a message here from Pearl from Hull.
Pearl.
Pearl.
Gotta stop watching Friends, man.
Pearl.
Hi, just wondering,
what is the age gap between you and your nieces?
Are you similar ages?
You get on so well together.
Love listening to you all.
I don't know if we've said our ages.
Oh, do we want to?
Oh my God, I'm now 33.
That's the first time I've said that.
So I am 41.
I'll be 42 in May.
Elia, 33.
Maria.
How old am I?
You're 38.
38.
So yeah, we're quite similar in ages so yeah me and Natalie
three years
nine years between me and Els
me and Els
six
five
five
five
oh I thought it was six
no
but I have just turned
five and a half
yeah
so there you go
the photo you posted yesterday
I'm disgusted
me?
what was it?
£8.25
£8.25
what you posted that?
no I just sent it to Natalie
I forgot to put it on my Instagram
put it on
Lurpak
£8.25
it's the big one
is it a wind up?
it's more than olive oil
but that was £7.50, that big one.
It's mental.
That's crazy.
But it's not 5p, it's 75 pence difference.
What is that in inflation?
I think we should do something.
What do you want to do?
I think we should go, like when we go to supermarkets,
there's certain items, I think we should take photos,
check the prices and stuff.
Well, you say that.
Nick Ferrari's been doing it on LBC for years.
But yeah, we can copy Nick.
No.
He's been doing a basket of shopping
and how much it costs for quite a long while.
Early.
I listen to LBC.
I've never heard that.
Early.
Early.
Not all the time.
You didn't need to mention that
because now it looks like we're copying him.
Well, you know.
Ours would be more interesting.
Sorry, Nick.
But yeah, £8.25.
I mean, come off it. Yeah, that's the pits. You might as well buy a bottle of ours would be more interesting sorry Nick but yeah £8.25 I mean come off it yeah that's the pit
you might as well
buy a bottle of wine
and be done with it
oh just a quick shout
out to Dawny
who sent us a picture
of her bed
lovely bed Dawn
really nice
very well done Dawn
well done
neat
it's got a blanket
it's got some cushions
feel like
quite
what's the word
vibes
I bet she's got some
crystals knocking about I think so yeah quite therapeutic quite zen it's got some cushions quite what's the word vibes I bet she's got some crystals
knocking about
I think so
quite therapeutic
quite zen
yeah
it's all
low bed
low bed
what is it called
is it low
or have I made that up
let me see
what's the word
you're thinking of
no
wait for it
you're thinking of
when the room is
feng shui
feng shui
she just smashed
herself in the head gotta stop doing that feng shui. She just smashed herself in the head.
Got to stop doing that.
Or is Maria in that for dinner tonight?
With some chilli and garlic.
There's something with the pod where the brain just goes
and then after I'll think of stuff and it really fucking aggravates me.
But yeah, you're correct.
Exactly that.
Well done, Dawny.
Great bed.
I was listening to
Parenting Hell earlier
aren't we all
no
oh Elliot get on it
I don't listen to any
I need to sort
yeah
it's funny
I mean
I had to listen to it
because I saw
the title of one of the
episodes was
have you ever eaten
a kumquat
what's a kumquat
it's what we were talking about.
What is wrong with you?
It's because she doesn't listen to the pods after
so she forgets.
Yeah, I don't.
When Natalie,
when we were talking about the star fruit.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because that was when I saw the fruit.
Yeah.
Although, let's just say,
should we look at the dates there?
Because are they stealing our material?
Yeah, I thought that.
Shall we check the date?
Because old Joshy and Robbie might be having a listen to ours and nicking our ideas what were they saying
about um rob was saying that he was in marx's with the kids he said that i saw one at the end
of oh we've never had that before i'll give it a bash and it was fucking disgusting like an old
lemon oh the old boys and um josh hasn't been well is he yeah no i've mentioned that on the last
part do you know something
perinatal I've got
enough listeners
we don't need to
keep going on
I think we should
invite them
and do a joint one
one day
we talk about the same stuff
but no
Covid
I think I've had Covid
oh 100%
it's mad isn't it
and no one just
talks about it anymore
but it's just
another illness
I know but it
wipes you out
it's going on
for a long time
yeah it's fuked.
What time is it?
Right, come on.
Chico time.
Sorry, I can't hear you.
Yes, that's the first of 2025.
It's been a while.
R.I.P.
That's joking.
You can't say that.
It's a joke.
No, it's a joke.
He's alive and kicking.
He's fine.
Right. That's good. He's alive and kicking. He's fine. Right.
That's good.
He does loads of retreats.
He does amazingly well.
Can we not do a thing every time we do that?
Chico time.
We need some little...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How much?
Chico time?
Getting in your bag.
Exactly.
Fucking get on it, Madeline.
I'm trying to get Chico to record it for you.
Even better.
He didn't come back to us, did he? We had to talk to him. I think he's just a bit upset. He don't... I mean. I'm trying to get Chico to record it for you. Even better. He didn't come back to us, did he?
We had to talk to him.
I think he's just a bit upset.
He don't...
I mean, I'm not surprised you keep saying he's dead.
The poor boat is literally living his best life.
I'm going to pop on and do a voice note.
Well, not really, because you say I'm dead every week.
Okay.
Please keep me anonymous.
Warning, I'm about to sound like a right cow,
but I do need the advice. I met a friend
through work about 10 years ago. I left that workplace about five years ago. We have kept in
touch, but I feel like my lifestyle has completely changed and we've almost grown apart. She's a
lovely lady and would do anything for you, but I just don't seem to have anything in common with
her anymore and I find her quite socially draining I've tried small doses
so arranging a coffee or bingo or something like that so it's not long I've had to stop inviting
her around as she just doesn't leave I almost find myself being rude and I don't want to be like that
I'm just not sure how to approach this matter has anyone been in this situation please help
oh I feel like give her the elbow I feel like you're already
doing it
she's done it
yeah
you're already
I think
it's really hard
and you sound really kind
I think even for you now
to be doing
a little coffee
or a bingo
you're doing really well
if she's draining in your life
get rid of her
yeah
but how
that's the point
just cut her out
well there's two options
you either just be really honest
and say
oh yeah
this is how.
And if you haven't got things in common with people, that happens over time.
It does.
Life changes and you ain't got time to spend your time with people who don't interest you.
But also, life is so precious that you have to have the...
There's not enough time to see people yet.
No, it's a hard one because obviously this person likes her.
Again, we don't really understand the content of
the you know when they're together and what that you know what is that she has someone but is she
someone that comes to her and just moans and whinges and bitches or is you know i mean what's
the well she said emotionally draining it's draining and they've got nothing in common so
they just don't she just doesn't really want her as a friend anymore no so i'm saying you could approach it in a sense of being like i've just got a lot on at
the moment i just need a bit of space or i know but then that's not the end is it a little bit
no i mean i've sort of that's not the end now is it i know but then well then you just don't reply
to people that's what i said or yeah you either have to slowly, really slowly cut. And I know people that do that.
I'm the opposite.
I have to say.
Yeah.
I just have to go back.
No shit, Sherlock.
But over the years, that's happened to me.
And I have to just block it out and say,
this isn't good anymore.
And I don't want it.
Yeah, it's good.
Yeah.
But then I know people that do that whole sort of slowly.
Phasing out.
Don't sort of, I don't know, like,
might not message them on an important day or,
do you know what I mean?
I know that sounds awful, but you have got to try and phase it out.
Not inviting them to things that maybe you would have once invited them to.
Yeah.
I think it all depends as well on, like,
when you've had that relationship
so like for me there's people that go way back who have probably tried actually to get in contact
with me or see me and it's not I'm not being nasty it's not that I don't want to see them but
it's just time is of the essence so I've not really done that but it's not a fallout I've
only got four friends and I saw one on Saturday morning for an hour.
No, but I haven't seen anyone.
But I'm happy with that.
No, I'm very happy.
And that's why if you're not giving me what I need,
I'm quite, you need to go.
Because if, you know,
A, you don't need loads of friends.
No, you don't.
And B, if people are draining
and not actually bringing you anything.
But this is it.
If people are not adding value.
If they're not adding value, then bye, you've got to got to go they've got to go so you have to either be honest
or slowly cut them out and that is by possibly doing things not as regularly cancelling as awful
as it is if you're not confident enough to say this is how i feel i don't want to be your friend
which is a horrible thing to do and hard yeah yeah yeah but also it's not it's not nice for
either of you to sort of carry on a fake friend it's no different to a relationship no it's the
same thing you wouldn't you know if you you're not going to just stay with someone you've got
to be honest you've got to be honest if you can do that in a relationship you should be able but
this is it for me it's like how much do you care and cherish that person if you don't really give
a shit about them then just yeah like you said knock it on the head yeah if you do have a bit
of care for them then actually you should be honest with them because they might
need that to recognize that actually they need to sort themselves out yeah and also yeah when i see
you you're a bit draining like if you do care that's a really good point actually if you care
about them yeah because it might help them but like they might need to do some work on themselves
and it might just be they're going for a hard time. Or, again, you might like seeing them for an hour every six months.
Say that.
Say, I just haven't got time.
Listen, I'm not going to be seeing you now every fortnight,
every month.
My life is different and I hope to catch up with you once or twice a year.
And if they like it, I'll lump it.
And people also shouldn't depend on you.
No.
And that's how you know who your friends are
because you should be able to leave it three months and then when you message them
there's no
oh where have you been
no definitely
but then there's always
there's that but then there's always
you have got to make time for people
and if it's your friend you're checking in
if you genuinely care about someone
it can't just be one way
no absolutely not to be fair, it's a bit, it can't just be one way, can it? No, absolutely not.
But I think...
Absolutely not.
To be fair, if it's a work friend,
then maybe it's not.
I mean, I know you can get close to friends at work, but...
I know, but sometimes that's even more awkward
because you're with them every day.
No, but they don't work together.
They're not working together anymore.
So they've obviously become friends at work.
And maybe it is one of those things
where they've sort of kept in touch,
but they're not really close.
The job made them close.
Yeah.
Yeah, now...
I think you've just got to
prioritise yourself.
It's 10 years as well.
You're a different...
You can be...
Your life has massively changed
in that 10 years.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Oh, well, I hope that helps.
What was her name?
Anonymous.
Oh, sorry.
Anonymous.
And I wonder why.
Fair enough.
No, no, no.
Thank you for that.
I like giving a little bit of advice
yeah
we're shit at it
but yeah
imagine it's someone
that we know
that sent it in
and it's actually about us
about us
not you
work 10 years
me
you
imagine
could be
and they're like
going to listen and be like
haha you know it
nice
I don't think it is.
It could be you.
It could be you.
Or it could be anyone.
Could be me.
Quite easily.
That's brilliant.
Love it.
Oh, that has been brilliant tonight.
Well, if it is one, like...
If it's one of us, all the very best to you.
Cut me out now.
Back up.
Stop texting.
You took the words out of my mouth.
No, we're joking brilliant
absolutely brilliant
well thank you so much
for listening
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thanks girls
love you
love you ciao ciao ciao ciao happy running
you forest oh yeah i'll let you know how i get on i'm proud of you i've got to get out thank you
come with me come with me yeah i'm very slow but yeah i said that we've done it before we can do
it again all right okay right and have a brilliant weekend for your birthday thank you no one even
asked me about my birthday or the best oh yeah, yeah. We did. That came and went quite quickly.
This and when it...
What?
I can't speak.
No.
When it comes to Natalie's birthday, we're going to be having a pod party.
Yeah.
Oh, well.
It is bad.
You didn't do anything for her birthday.
I just...
We've all been busy.
No, you've been busy.
I've been busy.
You were ill.
She weren't really up for it.
Oh, well.
We'll do something nice.
We'll do a special.
We won't do a birthday. I don't want anything for my birthday Oh, well. We'll do something nice. We'll do a special. We won't do a birthday.
I don't want anything for my birthday either.
We'll do like a nice evening.
We'll do something like when we all feel good.
Spring's coming.
I feel good.
We'll have some.
No, we'll do a night.
We'll do a...
I'm all right.
We'll do a pod.
We'll do a pod night.
Little drink for little Elia's birthday.
Little Elia?
What the fuck is she talking about?
Don't fucking patronise me.
Little Elia and her family
who use one breast of chicken
to feed six
little
I don't know why
I called you little
I meant to say
my little sister
she's little
she's little
yeah anyway
all right
all the best
see you later
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