Life with Nat - EP97: Sowing seeds spesh!

Episode Date: March 16, 2025

Nat calls on her friend Cara (@makeitflourish) and they head to the garden centre and plant some seeds. Nat is hoping for freshly cut flowers in a vase by June! X Please subscribe, follow, and leave a review. xxx You can find us in all places here; https://podfollow.com/lifewithnat/view INSTA: @natcass1 We're also on Facebook now too: https://www.facebook.com/lifewithnatpod A 'Keep It Light Media' Production Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] SHOW INFO: Life with Nat - it’s me! Natalie Cassidy and I’ll be chatting away to family, friends and most importantly YOU. I want to pick people's brains on the subjects that I care about- whether that’s where all the odd socks go, weight and food or kids on phones. Each week I will be letting you into my life as i chat about my week, share my thoughts on the mundane happenings as well as the serious. I have grown up in the public eye and have never changed because of it. Life with Nat is the podcast for proper people. Come join the community. ♥️ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Savings may vary. Eligibility and member terms apply. Hello and welcome to Life with Nat. I hope you're all having a lovely day and a lovely week. I am here with Cara who was on the pod last September and we had a chat about her changing her career, going into gardening and planting. She's absolutely brilliant you can follow Kara or she's gonna tell you. Hello Kara, I've forgotten your handle. Oh, make it flourish. Make it flourish. How are you? Great, it's so lovely to be here.

Oh, it's so nice to see you. We finally got around to it. I'm so pleased we can make it work. I know, I know. It's brilliant. And had a little tour around the garden, your space, the potential flower patch. Yeah, and veg patch. Yes. And iron up space for a potential greenhouse.

Yeah, yeah. Only a little on mine. Mini one, cold frame. We get too much wind around here. It gets very, very windy, the elements, because there's a very open field. So you've got to be careful about what you put up. We had a playhouse in the garden. Very, very heavy wooden play.

It's still there. I'll show you it. Okay. And we had a really strong wind and it literally blew across the garden. You wouldn't believe it. Oh my goodness. So we have to be careful about what we put up. I think if we put it against the house

in a quite protected spot, I could just have a little miniature greenhouse to help me along. Yeah. We don't want to leave them on the window sills too long. No. Well, the windowsill ones that you've seen this morning, Mark did at the weekend.

I am really, really impressed. He's a keen grower. He's even got like the proper propagation sets. Yeah. I bought those on Amazon. Did you? Yeah, really impressed. He's a keen grower. He's even got like the proper propagation sets. Yeah, I bought those on Amazon. Did you? They're like professional level. Are they? Yeah, they look...

They're very, you know, quite reasonable, if I remember rightly. Yeah. But I just like them because they all come with all the bits and pieces and it comes all together. If you're doing it and you really want to, you might as well. Might as well.

And he's been doing it for a long time, hasn't he? He has. And what he's been doing actually over the last couple of years, he's bought no seeds for tomatoes and chillies. He's got them out of the best chillies and tomatoes and he's dried them himself. I love that. Yeah. So, yeah, he's pretty good.

Quite impressive. When he has an idea, he's not like me. I'll have all these grand ideas and then just think I haven't got time. I'll just carry on doing the washing or the ironing. Whereas he will set his mind to something and say no I'm going to do that this weekend or I'm going to take some time aside. Whereas I'm a little bit more all over the place. So I thought that's why this will be good for people. I want to concentrate today on flowers with you. Amazing. I'm excited.

And I want people to, if they'd like to, buy some seeds that we're buying. We'll let them know. I'll put it on Instagram. You will as well, won't you? Yeah, the exact varieties we will share. Exact varieties. We'll share them. We'll plant them today. And then people can grow along with us, show us the photos. And then hopefully by the the summer we can all cut our own flowers and put them in a vase. And share that flourish and joy of the bouquets, we can be giving them to friends, family, neighbours. That would be brilliant. You said that we're going to go for flowers which we cut and then they grow back, is that right? Yeah, so I think nearly all of them, we're going to try and get cut and come again flowers.

So they're mainly annuals. For people that don't know, what's an annual? An annual is, you sow it this year, it won't come back next year. So a perennial will come back each year. But you'll get more flowers out of an annual. So that's why they're cut and come again. And that'll be lovely. So if we, in the perfect scenario, if it all goes well for people listening, if we sow today and they go well, when will we see flowers and when can we start cutting

them? So depending on the variety, so every variety is different. So I think we said we're going to choose really easy to grow flowers. So Cosmos, Sweet Peas, Zinnias, and we might do Nigella as well. Right. We're going to share the exact varieties once we get to the store. But we're looking at those varieties. Definitely the Cosmos. So things like Cosmos, we sow them today.

They'll probably be in flower come June. Okay. Yeah. All right. So we've got a little bit of time, people. Yeah, we've got time. Okay. Don't get impatient. This is a project of joy and love. Yeah. And that will flower all the way. I mean, last year mine were flowering till first week of November. Really? But you've got to keep cutting. Right. Okay. And we can do a little demo on how to cut them. Oh, absolutely. No, definitely. This is the beginning of our journey. So this is what I think. I think people can get afraid of, oh, what do I do? How do I

pinch them out and how do I cut them? But it is really easy. I think just start with step one, sow the seeds. Once they start sprouting, that is such a joy when they start sprouting. We'll pop them on when they've got their true leaves. Okay. Which we can talk about further down the line. I'm very excited. Honestly, I just think it's lovely to do a pod about something so lovely.

In life at the moment, I've had a lot of messages from people. They're feeling quite, I don't know, just they're in a rush, they've got so much on, you know, with the kids, and even us this morning were talking, you know, your little boy's got chicken pox, you know, it's never ending, we're rushing around, there's, you know, financial worries or family worries, and I think just to get a little box of seeds.

It gives us a focus, doesn't it? Like for me, life is full of battles. Like you're not human if you don't have a battle, big or small. But for me, it's just given me a focus where I can just get away. It's quite meditative, isn't it? Yeah, it's such a joy. It's just quite mindful, isn't it? Yeah. It's a nice thing to do.

Yeah. I'm excited. When those flowers come though, I don't know, do you get excited when you get the sprouts from the tomatoes? I do, yeah. Sometimes I'm like running around the kitchen. My husband doesn't get it at all. I've tried and I've tried. It's amazing that Mark's growing. Yeah, it is nice, isn't it? If I could get Adam growing. Well, I'd say it's, you know, he's probably more keen than me. He's done most of the stuff, you know, in the last few years. But flowers for me, the veg is brilliant and I love cooking with it. The joy I get from going into the garden

picking tomatoes and making a pasta sauce out of them or a salad or a bruschetta is just, there's no feeling like it actually. No. It is really great. I think that's like me with picking some flowers and then giving them to someone or putting them in the house. It's hard. Also, flowers are really expensive. You know, you go in Sainsbury's, Tesco's, whatever, you're picking a bunch of flowers that maybe aren't your favourite flowers or your favourite colours. You're spending 15 quid, 12 quid, 15 quid on a bunch.

So with this, we'll let people know how much it has all come to. Also, if you want to do one variety that we do today, you just want to get one packet of seeds. It doesn't matter. Just get a pot and have a go. And that's the other thing I wanted to say. If you haven't got a garden, but you still want to maybe have a little go and you've got a balcony, just buy a cheap little pot and we can just have a go and see what we come out with. I'm excited. Yeah, no, I'm excited. Yeah, and the pack of seeds, that one pack will last you a few years.

You might just be sowing eight seeds out of that. Yes. You've got 50 seeds in a pack. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're going to last a long time. Right. That's good to know. I didn't think about that.

Yeah, they'll last a long time, unless you're going to get really seed happy and so hundreds but I don't recommend that. No, we're not quite Monte Donne yet. I think we'll just start off simple. Yeah, but honestly, it's going to be such a joy and yeah, sharing those, the cut flowers, but you can't get Cosmos and things like sweet peas in the supermarket. No. Because they just don't, I don't know why you can't get Cosmos and things like sweet peas in the supermarket. No. Because they just don't, I don't know why you can't get them. Are they quite hard to maybe store and pack, you know, to keep fresh I would imagine?

Yeah, they are going to be, that's obviously the reason. But straight out the garden. Straight out the garden, sweet peas are highly scented. Yeah, and they're very, very delicate. They remind me of my childhood sweet peas. Yeah. My mum and dad always grow them in They remind me of my childhood sweet peas. Yeah. My mum and dad always growing them in the garden, up the trellises. I'm really excited about growing sweet peas. Be lovely. There's so many beautiful varieties of sweet peas as well, and there's some that are amazing

for containers, so they're a dwarf variety. Yes. So we can pick some of those as well. Yeah. I'm excited. Should we go to the garden? Yeah, let's go. Let's get our skates on. With the Fizz loyalty program, you get rewarded just for having a mobile plan.

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on the share. It's a piece of cake. Learn more at td.com slash partial shares. TD, ready for you. So we're at the garden center. Oh, Van Hague. I'll tell you something though there's nothing better than walking around a garden center. It is so relaxing. Oh I love it. Are we getting a trolley? I thought we needed a trolley do you? I don't know are we going to hold our microphones and do the trolley but we'll have a go. Oh dear. I love seeing all the old deers. You know like they come out they get all done up and they're always their mates. Just, you know, having a little look around. They're not old deers, not animals.

Oh dear. Because they've got the lovely train here. Yeah. Maybe they've got deers. Sorry. What I'd like to do is make sure that all the colours go together, what we pick. So when I do my vase, it all matches and goes together. That's what I'd like. These are great as well. So you've got small perennials, which you could add to your garden.

This size, they're quite cheap now. So this is a nine centimetre pot. So here in this garden, you get three for £10 pound so they will come back each year yeah the perennials yeah yeah yeah it's a really good time to plant them now is it yeah because if you come to the garden center later on with the bigger pot size you pay a lot more money right okay that's good to know yes you got like fox gloves there what else have we got? hear that everybody good time know. Yes, you've got like fox gloves there. What else have we got? Hear that everybody? Good time to get to the garden center. They're pretty. I love fox gloves. They're lovely. Little prime in there. Yes. Slugs love them though. Yeah. Wonder what that does. This one? Yeah, yes. There's still be. So,

so this is a flower. This is coming into flower. Can you see? Yeah. Is it full sun that spot? It might get me a fry. Do you know what? It does get full sun in the morning. Okay. But only in the morning. Oh, so that would be... Because they don't like full sun. Right. They're lovely plants though. Shall I get him one as a treat? What do you think? I think so. What do you think?

It's the best one. It's got old flowers. Those ones are... Let me try and find out if there's a better one. The white's nice actually. Yeah, this one. Yeah, lovely. That's the only thing. Whether it's in flower now, it won't be in flower next month. Yeah, understood. What do you reckon?

Yeah, go for it. I mean, I think if you cut it back, it'll probably re-flower again for the autumn because it's in flower now. Yes. It's quite early. The leaves are quite little, you know, to go with the... Yeah, the seeds are lovely. Can I chuck that in your basket, please?

Yeah, thanks. We're going to run out of room, but are only getting seeds now so we should be ok. You can actually put them in cut flowers as well. Oh really? Or in vases. Mark's mum really wants a water feature in her garden. Oh really? Yeah.

So she into gardening? Yeah, she loves it. What's her style? Quite wild, not too wild but... Like cottage garden? I think so. She's got quite a lot of roses. How lovely. She's brought a few things over to me and planted them.

They look nice. So do we need a couple of little pots, little bits and pieces. What do you think? Yeah, so do you want to be sewing in seed cells or like what Mark's doing? I can do whatever you think. I mean I've got quite a few pots at home, the little black normal pots. Yeah, we can buy some little pots just over here. They've got the little propagation. But you don't, seeing as you can make use of containers like recycling, if you don't want to spend money on propagation sets, you can sow seeds in the packaging

of what, grapes and the mushrooms come in and things like that. So yeah, you don't have to spend money on these things. I quite like the idea of the fiber pots because they can just be planted straight into bigger pots can't they? Yeah so you wouldn't these this is for the potting on really. Right okay. So yeah once you've got your little seedlings and you've got these true leaves you want to pot them on into nine centimeters pots right okay like this size. And what happens with the bottom of those when you water those fiber pots? These ones they bide grade.

Yeah, so you'd have to put a little tray underneath those. Yes, you need a tray underneath. So I use wall pots as well at home. So when I put on, I used something similar called wall pots. They bide grade and the wall around the edge is like deterrent slugsrant slugs and stems. Oh really? Let's see if we can find them. Yeah I've got some of them actually with me. Oh okay. So yeah really we just need a seed tray so I think we could go... Got like a propagation set there so that will be good for a beginner.

And what will we need for our dahlias? For dahlias we just need some pots. I think I've got pots in the garden. Yeah, so I normally, a lot of garden centres now have got a recycle bin for pots okay so instead of keep buying plastic yeah recycle recycle bins yeah so we've got the seed trays seeds seeds Flowers. Right. Here we go. So there's lovely cosmos. So this is trusty favorite of mine, Cosmos purity. Yeah. Let's see what how tall, 120 centimeters. You can grow them in containers. Yeah. They will be slightly taller. Okay. Would you put sticks with those? Yeah, I would stake them a little bit. Yeah, we can do that.

We can find a smaller one as well, a shorter variety. Yeah. Let's just have a look. Oh look, there's your zinnias at the bottom. Oh yeah, zinnias early wonder mixed. Trying to look for color tones. Yeah, fantastic.

This looks lovely. That looks lovely, yeah. So this one goes up to 60 centimeters which is a lot smaller yes half the size of the 120 so that's good for containers yeah this one's a compact sweep here lovely and then zinnia's frills and blushes that's the lovely cut flower one. Yeah, that's pretty. What is it you're drawn to when you look at... When I look here?

... these display flowers, yeah. I love the fox gloves. Obviously they're for the garden, aren't they? Yeah. You can grow them as for, you know, for vases, but... They're lovely. ... you've got to be careful with the children of them. Yes, of course. You could have foxgloves in your own garden. Yeah, you could. Girls are old enough now and...

I've got foxgloves in my garden, but they're in a border, so the kids can't reach them. They're hidden away. I love them though. Good to put those away. They're great for the pollinators. I'm really happy just to stick with the ones that you know and like. Yeah, okay. So shall we find a nice zinnia? Yeah, I saw those. And then we've got blue or you've got the mixed.

The mixed is nice. Yeah, very mixed. Please. Nidella. Once you've got Nidella in your garden, they do sell seed. Right, okay. Which is quite nice. Yeah, yeah. Some of the compact varieties aren't so good for cut flowers. No, but no, absolutely. Like these are all good.

They're all good. Maybe choose, I don't know, with those colours, maybe like just a nice pure white one. Pure white, yeah. What do you think? Yeah, just purity. I did see it. What was the sweet pea you said that's really big? Really? The one that's really lovely and big? These are Spencer type is actually, I'll probably go Twilight has got a really big bloom. I've never seen someone so keen in the garden centre. Sorry, you love it don't you? I've not been here for four hours, Kara.

I had about 30 packets in my hand. I was like, let's just get these a little bit, we're not going to grow all these, Kara. So I've got jobs to do, kids to feed, you know? Well we've narrowed it down to three types of flowers that we're gonna... And the dahlias. Oh and the dahlias, yeah. What have we gone for? We've gone for... So a beautiful sweet pea. So we've gone for Twilight.

Yep. Which is Spencer variety. So it's got a cool mix of like the pale lilac all the way to a deep purple. I love that. Beautiful. Yeah and really large flowers. You'll get about three to four flowers on each stem. Yeah lovely for the vase. Yes and they grow back quite quickly. Yep as soon as the flowers come you just want to keep cutting them. Yeah. I made a mistake the first year I grew flowers come you just want to keep cutting them. I made a mistake the first year I grew sweet peas, I just wanted to look at them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I left them too long, they start going to seed. Right, okay, fine. So you want to cut them as soon as you get your first flowers. The other variety of sweet peas, again a Spencer, frills and blushes. How beautiful sort of peachy pinks to creams yeah gorgeous absolutely fantastic cut flower that one and these two sweet peas we've decided to get they do grow quite tall up to 180 centimeters yeah so we will

need these in a larger kind of container apart and and use some sticks to help support them. Yeah so we're going to go slightly bigger with the container for these sweet peas. Yep that's fine. So with sweet peas they've got very long tap roots which we'll talk about when we do the seed stir along. So the container for these are going to be slightly taller so you could grow these at home in toilet roll tubes, wall pots or just a 10 centimeter sort of longer container. An old perennial pot would be perfect. All right, lovely. And then what have we gone for? We've gone for a Zinnia Purple Prince. I love that. Which is a really large purple, deep purple,

isn't it? And the Zinnia's are sort of big and round, aren't they? They're beautiful. I'm going to post all these anyway. Yeah, stunning. I'm going to post all these anyway. Yeah, stunning. I'm going to put up the seed packets so you know what we've gone for. This is another trusty favorite of mine. Grown this every few years now. So, yeah, stunning.

Again, you want to cut them when the first flowers come. Yeah, brilliant, gorgeous. And then we've gone for a trusty favourite, Cosmos Purity. Right, okay, just lovely pure white flower. Stunning, and they've got really long stems. Now, you do have the shorter compact varieties, which are lovely, but this one, you've got the really beautiful stems,

which are perfect for cut flowers. I'm so excited. I know. I can't wait to have a bow cut. You know, I can't... Are these the first flower seeds you've ever grown? Or... I've never... No, let me think.

We haven't even discussed it. Yeah, no, we haven't really. I... As we sit on the floor, it's about our centre base and then falling to feet. We are... We're in a quiet spot. People must think we're mad with our microphones.

I think we need to get a picture of this. It's all right, we will. We'll get a picture in a minute. We'll put it on. But I don't care about anything, sorry. People must think I'm mad, sorry to put you in these positions. We're in the next of the half-price wellies. It's a quiet spot, it's a quiet spot. No, I love all these. I think I have tried to grow a few flowers before, I think in lockdown, but from what I remember it didn't go too well so I'm really excited about doing this really excited and then we've got some I know I've made you get these but I just love Dahlia's. So we've got Dahlia a Wizard of Oz which I just think looks so pretty they're kind of

pale pink balls which look beautiful and then an impressive sort of February white bloom of Dahlia which is called Sukiyori Noshisha which I'm probably saying completely wrong but they're ideal for cutting. So we have gone for six different seeds and obviously remember you can get one of these, you can get all of these, you can get a couple of these and so along with us but I'm gonna post it all online. All the pictures will be on my Instagram highlights so they'll stay on for you as well so you can have a look. Let's get a photo, it's hilarious. We're just on the floor of the garden centre. Next to the half-price wellies if anyone's

in Vanhague. Well actually you're next to the gloves. Oh the gloves, yes. I've got to get Joni some gardening gloves while we're here. Oh lovely ones just here. Yeah okay so people must think we're crazy but we're having a little seed discussion. We're recording the pod so doesn't really matter what people think as usual. What are you girls growing? Joanie just loves being in the garden, helping Mark. She just loves going out there. We've got a little secret sort of space around the back of the workshop, which she's made while Mark's helped her make sort of her own little space. She's got a little fairy garden around there,

and she's got some old bricks and bark that she's drawn on and chalked. I'll show you later. But she loves being outside, Jomi. So maybe she could help you grow something. Yeah, oh, she'll love it. She'll absolutely love it. And you've been in Romania. Tell me a little bit about Romania.

So I went out there for a project with Big Love Charity. So the project was to transform space in a children's center, outdoor space, into a garden space for the children. Yes. But when we got out there, it was thick snow to our knees. Wow. So, snow wasn't part of the plan.

Good grief. Yeah. How did that go? It was a challenge and we, yeah, it was amazing though. We got quite a lot done. Yes. Some of it was painting, all the decaying concrete and things like that. Yeah, yeah. You know, making it really clean and tidy, putting the beds in, which was quite hard

work because it's shoveling the snow. I can imagine. Getting the beds in. But it looked, obviously I shared it on Instagram, it looked like a really humbling, rewarding experience. It worked, yeah. And we managed to do some seed sowing with the children, teaching them how to grow and sow seeds.

And a lot of them haven't grown anything before. No, of course. When we got the seeds out, I've never seen such joy over compost and seeding. It was amazing. That's amazing. Amazing. Right, well I can't find any children's gloves, which is quite annoying. I don't know if it's just get some little small ones. There's some ones, don't they? Oh, they're just small. Oh, they're just small.

Yeah, they're just small, not children's, which is annoying. But that's okay. Never mind. You'd think they'd have children's though. Missing a trick. Yeah. Have you got compost? Oh, I don't know. We should get some. Yeah, I did see a bag. Is it a compost? I don't know.

No, I'm not sure. There probably is, but you know what? We'll always use it. We'll get some. It doesn't matter. So what's the best compost to use when growing the seeds? So, peat-free. I use a multi-purpose compost. Yeah. And just sieve it if it's quite chunky. Right, okay. Because I find that works really good for potting on the seeds. Let's have a look. Any of these? I use a compost called silver grow, which works really well,

but any heat free multi-purpose would be good. How about that one there? Yeah, we could go with that one. Should we? Yep. That's enough, isn't it? Yeah. Loads enough isn't it? Yeah. Loads isn't it? Yeah you've got enough there. Yeah. So we've just picked up a little 10 litre bag. You'll need more for your dailyers. Yes. I want a big bag really. I think they're around. I'd rather buy a couple of little, but I think they are round. I'd rather buy a couple of little bags. Yeah, because they're easier to carry on now. Because they're easier to carry.

Yeah, happy with that? Yeah, all good. I've got all my bits and pieces at home. You'll be quite happy with a shed. I talk like it's my stuff, but again. So are you sewing them in your shed? Or in the inside? Don't forget we've got a lot of room.

Probably gonna sew them in the kitchen. Yeah. That's all right. On the kitchen table. Yeah, I've got a nice tray we can put everything on. That's all right. I've got a wipe clean cloth on there cause the kids are in the table.

So we're all good. So you're not tempted by any of these lights and Not really. Decor bits. Not at the moment. One thing at a time I say. Although I do love all the Easter stuff. Look over there. Oh yeah. Lovely. Do you do Easter egg hunts? Easter egg hunts and also a little

Easter tree which has always gone down quite well. So do you store, you've got the tree? Yeah. I store it. Get it out, put all the little eggs on. Pretend. Little pretend ones that the kids have painted over the years. Oh, I love that. I do Easter egg hunt. Yeah. I think that was a very, very good trip. Yeah. You happy?

Yeah. One thing I've just thought of is plant labels or what we can do. I've got plant labels. I think we'll get home and we'll realise that I've got loads of seed tray spare as well but listen you can never have enough, I can keep them so that's fine. And if you haven't got plant labels, quite often milk carton, wash it out, cut it up into little strips. Chuck it, put a sharpie on there. Yeah. Yeah, it's lovely the stuff that you're saying about recycling for people.

I think yeah, you just, because in the lockdown, I was sewing in like old paint trays. Yes, yeah. Drilling holes in it. As long as he's got the holes in the bottom, you can sew in literally anything. I was rummaging in my garage because everything was closed. Yeah, of course. So I was even sewing in conflate boxes.

Yeah. I spent ages cutting out my conflate boxes and cereal boxes, wrapping them in bin liners. Yes. And then just putting handles on the bottom. Brilliant. But there was not, we couldn't. The time we had on our hands. I know.

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We've got the tray of beautiful peat-free compost in front of us. We've got the lovely seeds. So we're ready. We're ready. Let's get growing flowers. We are going to start with the Cosmos Purity. Yeah.

Yeah. And we are going to do them explain to everybody how you can use lots of things around the house to plant rather than spending money because we're going to use what we're using. So today we've got some packaging. We've just got out your fridge actually, haven't we? Yep. So packaging from grapes, we've got one that's got holes in here and one that hasn't got holes in. So the one that hasn't got holes in, that's going to be the tray and the one

with holes in, we're going to... ...insert into the other one. ...sow the seeds in this one. Yep. Yep. So that's the one with holes for the grapes has got the drainage. So that's already made. Yeah, if it hasn't got holes, literally just cut a few little holes at the bottom. And then we've got another lid.

Which is again a grape packet. That is, yeah, and that's going to be a beautiful little... Miniature greenhouse. It is. And you can even leave this outside if you wanted. Yeah okay lovely right. We're gonna leave them on the windowsills aren't we? Yeah we are. Until they germinate. Okay. So varieties so we've got the lovely Cosmos purity. Open that. I said earlier it makes a beautiful cut flower because it's a really long stem

variety. And these are about two to three quid a packet. Yeah. And you get how many seeds in there usually, Kara? Oh, this pack here, I think we've got about a hundred seeds in there. Wow. But it can vary, you might get fifty to a hundred. Yeah. Let's get the compost in. So we've got this grape container, we're gonna fill that with lovely peat-free compost. Let's get the compost in. So we've got this great container. We're going to fill that with lovely peat-free compost. It's just multi-purpose. We haven't gone with seed compost, but if it was chunky, we would sieve it. Yeah. But look. Breaking it up a little bit. Breaking it up, but it doesn't need it. If you've got a compost and you've got big chunks of like woody bark in, I would definitely say give it a good sieve. This one's quite fine though, isn't it?

It's quite good. Yeah, it's nice and fine. It's got the confidence in it. What one have we used? Because people might want to do exactly the same as us. This was John Innes, wasn't it? John Innes? Yeah, it's the Westlands Multi-Purpose.

Lovely. Peep free. Okay. And what's nice, they're in little bags. That's why we went, didn't we? Yeah, because I don't like those massive bags when you're lugging them around. I can't carry them half the time.

So you filled that right up. Right up. And then we're going to pre-water. Now this is important with Cosmos because we don't want those little, they're quite small, they're not too small, but we don't want the seeds to be watered all the way down to the bottom. So we're going to pre-water this compost. Yep. Good, good drink. And then we're gonna sow the seeds so in a

container this size I say maximum 8 to 10 because they are gonna get big their roots need room okay they don't get too seed happy I, eight is probably a good amount. I was just spacing them out. And you're spacing those out to about two centimetres, would you say? Yeah. Just what I sometimes do is imagine like the seed cell trays, like we've got one over there that's growing in my place. But if someone hasn't ever sown before, how do we explain this for the pod? So I would imagine little squares, so you imagine little grids. Like a Norton Crosses board?

Yeah, yeah, that's good. I mean you can, some people just throw them in. There's no right or wrong way with growing. It's finding the right way works for you, and this way works well for me. Yeah, do what you feel. Yeah, so we've got about 10 seeds in there. Okay, now all you've done there is laid that on the top of the soil. You've just laid them on. Now we're just gonna press them in. Right. If you just get, would you mind giving them a little press? I shall press them in. Press them in and now we are gonna give them a little sprinkle of compost on top. There we go.

And then firm it down again. Do you press that down again? Yeah, give that so they're nicely intact. So that's only, isn't it funny you see? Now if that was me, I would have thought you made a deep hole. No. And you see what I mean? So you must explain.

So cosmos need the sun to germinate. Yeah. So literally they're just only on the surface. So when I say a sprinkle, it's like putting a sprinkle of icing on a cake. Yeah. It's a dusting. So you're literally just giving a dust,

it probably a bit more than a cake, would you say? I think so, yeah. But just a small layer on top, just maybe a couple of millimeters of soil on top of your seeds. Yeah. Yeah. I mean mean on the seed packet I think they say 0.5 but they really need the sun to germinate cosmos and then we're going to give it a little spritz on top. Now if you had a water sprayer right now that would be perfect but we're

just going to give it a little gentle water so those seeds on top yeah get nice and moist lovely but it's already been saturated so just a gentle water then we're gonna put our plant label on so we're just right then this is purity now these plant labels obviously you've got because you are a gardener but really good tip you gave earlier was an empty milk carton cut it all up and you can just spray it on there with marker you've got because you are a gardener but really good tip you gave earlier was an empty milk carton cut it all up and you can just spray it on there with a marker pen sharpie and just chuck it in. Amazing. Yeah and you can reuse nail varnish remover. Yeah. Reuse them again. If you have got the plastic ones you can just reuse them. Yeah. Take them off

for nail varnish remover. Right and so now we've got the plastic lid for the grape container yeah another one going on top you can fix it with a bit of string or sellotape okay but like that that's safe to go in your window sill yeah no leakage because it's got the tray underneath I reckon that you'll start getting sprouts within seven days on the seed packet it says up to 14 but every cosmos I've grown is normally within a week so they're really easy to grow. Fantastic, if you can just put that there and then we're going to pop them through to another room because Mark's taken up all of my window space here. I know, look at them, look at these professional growing propagation sets.

Yeah so they're brilliant. So they're gonna stay in there until they've got their true leaves and then we're gonna pop them on later on. But we can talk about that later on. Just, otherwise it can get a little bit confusing, can't it? Absolutely. So we've done our cosmos.

Now we're going to use a little seed tray, which we got off of Amazon. Yeah? Yeah, just a show how much are they roughly would you say I think this is ten pound for six okay yeah but you again you don't have to so in this you could do is that actually the same yeah in the grape containers we just have this with us absolutely growing a lot so yeah this is actually reusing so we're doing the zinnias now. Okay, here we go. So we've got a beautiful variety called Purple Prince. These are beautiful. And you said these were... Vibrant purple. You said these

were as big as your head. No, no, that's Dahlia's. Oh, they're Dahlia's, sorry. Right, okay. They are still very big. Okay. They are cut and come again. Vibrant and exotic in appearance, yet easy to grow for a great dramatic statement in the border and as a cut flower. They're also loved by butterflies, so that's lovely when we get them outside. All these things. They love them. Yeah, brilliant. You know what?

When the flowers are here, don't know about you, but I can just sit there for hours. Just watch. yeah, absolutely. That's the other thing that's really important, our bees, our insects. Yeah. I watched Dragon's Den the other night. Yeah. There was a lady on it, a couple, and they had these files of, it was like bee rescue, almost like a defibrillator for bees.

So you carry a little shard of syrup to help a bee in need. It was fantastic but she was saying over 60% of the bees in the US died last year. 60%. So planting a few little flowers does help our ecosystem as well. And we can't grow vegetables without flowers because the vegetables need to pollinate. Absolutely. So if we don't look after the pollinators we won't have vegetables. It's going to be stuck in that room there. Yeah. Right so you're filling this tray up. So we filled it with the compost, yeah, pressed it all down. Mm-hmm. This is a seed cell tray. If you haven't got this at home you could do grape container

like we've done previously. Pre-watering again. I'm going to do the next two because people are going to say well Kara's sowing everything, you're a cheater. Oh you're doing this. So let me do it. Right. Oh look this has already got a... Yeah that one's got a lovely label. So these ones are Johnson's. So this range's got a lovely label so these ones are Johnson's and so this range comes with a lovely little label so you haven't got to worry about it yeah that's okay so again I can't believe how many seeds so you're keeping these we can just pop those away in the dark am I right for sort of next year? Yeah so I keep mine in like an old roses tin or you know something like that. Yeah. That's perfect.

Right okay so how many go in each little section? I'll do one per cell. One per cell. Yeah they're quite big seeds. Okay and again am I laying these on top? Yeah, on top. There we go. One pastel. So what was the first flower you ever grew? Do you remember? I actually, I think it was possibly a sweet pea. Possibly. Yeah. But like I say, I've always grown the tomatoes and the chillies and stuff like that because I love the cooking. Yeah.

But I do love going to the florist, getting flowers, looking at flowers in the supermarket. And I just think it's so expensive to have fresh flowers in your house. This is why I wanted you to come over because I really do love a vase of flowers. But it is such a huge treat that hopefully by growing my own I'll be able to have them a little bit more regularly.

And like you said for birthdays, you know, for presents for people, if someone's a bit down you can have a major little bunch of flowers, I just think it's lovely. And the kids can pick them as well. How's that? Happy? That is great. So now we will just do a little um. A little sprinkling over the top? Yeah a little bit more for the zinnias. Okay. The seeds are a bit bigger aren't they compared to the cosmos. Okay. Perfect. It is so relaxing. How's that? Yeah, press it down and like all these varieties you can direct sew them outside so if you're

listening and you're thinking oh I don't want to start them up you could direct sew so if you've got your container your forever container outside these zinnias are great for direct sewing. At this time of year no in April and so I would probably say mid to late April direct so straight into the ground yeah they do really well direct sowing so you could do that if you've got your terracotta pot or an old tub or something you can direct sow them straight yeah straight in but this just gives us a head start so you've got more flowers at the start of the season. Perfect. So now we just need a water and then this one. So

this one's got a nice lid with vent holes. So you can take the lid off. Once they germinate with all of these seeds, we're going to get them outside because that's really important. We don't want them to get leggy. What does leggy mean? So tall, spindly. For me, tall and leggy is a positive thing, not for the flowers. No.

So it's like when they grow really tall, they're not getting enough sunlight. It's probably too warm environment. So as soon as you see those sprouts on at least half of the tray, you want to get them outside. If you've got a cold frame, brilliant, or you could use an old see-through storage box, turn it upside down, just put a few little holes on the top. And that is your greenhouse. Right. It makes them really strong plants because if you keep them on the windowsills the whole time, they can be weak. They're It makes them really strong plants because if you keep them on the windowsills the whole time they can be weak. They're not going to be strong because if we're not adding

any wind they need to adapt. They can spoil. Yeah. So then when you plant them out they're not going to cope very well. So as soon as they sprout definitely they need to go outside. Okay. So that zinnias sewn and completed. Oh you've done it. Yeah I've put the label in. Perfect. So there's Zinnia's purple prints. Perfect. Put that there.

So for the sweepers we're going to sew them in wool pots today. Wool pots, tell us all about these because these look like bandages. They do, they do look like bandages or like like they are a bit like a sock in some way. Yeah they are fabric pots made completely from British wool. Yeah. And they're brilliant for sweet peas because they're a little bit taller. Mm-hmm. And where they're made of wool the top rim acts as a deterrent from slugs and snails. Oh amazing. So these, what we sow now today, they'll be planted directly out into their forever home

in this pot. Amazing. They'll be no trying to take it out the pot, this is their, they're going to live in this and they're biodegrade. The roots will come through the wool and they'll be really, really happy and healthy in these. So these are really eco-friendly? Eco-friendly, they're brilliant, all from British wall, they're really, really great. If you haven't got these, you could use toilet rolls.

Okay, so the toilet, the cardboard? Yeah, so you probably, if you're sewing, probably need a minimum of six to have a nice display of sweet peas. So, rubbish, start collecting your toilet rolls, your kitchen rolls are really good, probably need a minimum of six to have a nice display of sweet peas so Rammage start collecting your toilet rolls or kitchen rolls really good cut in half or you could if you've got some card you could make your own yes yeah toilet rolls really so yes we're gonna use these because we've got them I'm really puzzled as to how this works yeah so I'm just grabbing that. Yep. Oh so you put it inside out. Yeah it's like putting

compost in a sock really. Yes. So I turn the sock inside out and then just moulding it, filling it in. Oh I like those a lot. They're nice aren't they? Yeah. They look really pretty as well actually with little um, little ribbon around them. Yeah, little bedding plants in. Yeah. I put some primroses in some, they look really lovely. So, there we go, that's our wall pot. So we're going to give that a, if you do the same, so we've got five more to do, I'll get the seeds ready. So the seeds that we're going to be sowing, we've got a variety called Twilight. Yep. And the other one is frills and blushes. So these are both Spencer varieties, which are the best for cutting. Okay. So this Twilight is beautiful, deep purple to lilac. Beautiful. And these frills and blushes are anything from cream all the way down to kind of a deep pink really, like all lots of coral, pale colours, lovely.

Okay. So what we're gonna do, we're gonna pre-water the compost and with sweet peas, if you're listening and you haven't got your seeds yet, I would pre-soak them for about 10 hours if you can. But if not, they're still going to pre-soaking just gives you a quicker germination. Okay. We've not had the time to pre-soak. Right. So it doesn't matter.

We can just, it just speeds things up. Right. Okay. And sometimes what I do at my workshops, if people really want to speed it up, you can sand them down a little bit. Oh. Yeah, so you've got a nail file, you can just sand them down till you see the white inner. Who's got time for it? I know. Stick them in the compost. But instead, they'll still grow. You've stuck your finger into that compost. Yeah. Would you say it's about a centimeter deep? Yeah. one centimeter deep. Okay. Two holes for each pot. This is a wall pot. If it's a toilet roll, I'd do one per pot. Yeah. Or if it's like a perennial

pot, I'd probably put two or three because it's a little bit wider. Okay. Lovely. Yeah, it wouldn't go any more than three. Okay, great. Lovely. And then we just fill the holes. Yeah. If you do the next, how many are we doing on the sweet peas? We're going to do 12, aren't we? 12, yes. So let's do six of this variety. Yeah. And six of the other.

Brilliant. As we've got them. Yes. Now, once you've sown your sweet peas, it's great to think about where are they going to grow because they need to climb up something. So I make a teepee in my garden and the kids love sitting in it. And sometimes I go and sit in it and it's that little tent and you can get a beautiful scent of them.

The sweet pain. Yeah. Or you can grow them in containers and you could grow an arch. Yes. So it could still be in a container, but grow up a, say like, you know you've got a rose arch out there. Yes. You could grow them up an arch but they don't have to be in the ground.

No, I see what you're saying. Yeah. Oh, lovely. There's so many different options. Right, so I've sprinkled a bit more on top of there. Yeah, so you've got two seeds in there. Yeah. Okay, so should we do...

A little bit more watering or is it all done? Yeah, give it a good... Because we're not going to water these until they sprout now so we're giving them all a really good drink so we're going to put these wool pots on a tray and with a lid on top okay or we could put a little plastic bag over the top just to keep the moisture in. Can you put cling film over them for instance? Yeah or the plastic sandwich bags, the large ones, they work really well. Oh okay, great. Just to keep the moisture in so they don't dry out. Now with sweet peas they take a little bit longer to germinate

but stick with it. Okay. So I think it's 14 to 28 days it might say on the variety they do because the shells are a lot harder so don't get upset don't get upset keep a lid on top of the whatever you're growing the sweet peas in keep a lid on on a sunny window still and again as soon as they germinate get them outside okay because sweet peas really can get very, very leggy. But we're putting everything outside. Yep. Underneath another thing. Do you see what I mean? We can't just put these trays outside with the lids on, can we? What now? No, once they sprout. Once they sprout. Do they then need to go into another cold

frame? I would put them, yeah, just for risk of frost. I would either put them, if you had like a what I said like a see-through storage box that would work really well or a cold frame just because they're very when can we get them out of the cold frame just once they're bigger and then hopefully we'll be into April you know end of April beginning of May no frost and then we're putting them in their last home. Yeah so when we get to end of April, beginning of May, we can start taking them out in the daytime when it's nice bright day, keeping them outside all day, getting them so they're climatised to the weather being outside and then gradually if you just check the weather, if it's nice, if it's good

weather overnight, there's no frost leaving them outside and then keeping an eye on it. But the sweet peas are very hardy and all of these, the zinnias have got to be a little bit careful of. They originate from Mexico. So you're going to have about 50,000 texts from me. It says it's four degrees. Do I need to bring them in? Am I bringing them out? degrees do I need to bring him in am I bringing him out? I would say don't worry too much sometimes I've left my whole like mini greenhouse open for like two days really if I've gone away and I mean and my husband might be looking after it and things haven't been and you know what they do surprise you but I would definitely did you you put some in there? No I'm just putting water in this one. Okay. More sweet peas, the fills and blushes. So with these sweet peas, once they grow

three sets of leaves we're gonna cut them which is called pinching. So and basically what that means they're gonna bush out and grow more stems from underneath. Okay. And we're gonna do the same with the cosmos as well but I don't want to overload them. I don't want to get them through the lime. But we will be doing that down the line but all that means is just snipping it which basically means more flowers. Right we're onto the frozen blushes now. Okay. So we've finished our Twilight and we've done six of those. Yep. Six plants. So we're going to do six of these. It's very relaxing isn't it?

Isn't it lovely? Like you said, just not thinking about anything else other than what you're doing. Yeah. That mindfulness. And when they sprout, you'll be dancing around that kitchen. Oh happy days. Is there a line? Yeah. My happy days. Right're a lot. My happy days.

Right, it's going to be good. Right, like, pre-water. You want it quite tight, don't you, the soil? Yeah, it's quite tight, but not, you don't want to push it, they want to breathe. Some people do per night in, but we're just, we're're just doing compost so making things simple. Giving the compost a really good water so they don't dry out. I'm a bit obsessed with these wall pots. I think they're unbelievably cute. I'm going to have to do a photo of them.

Now we're going to have a little look at our danias, which are a bit different aren't they? Because they are bulbs or they're tubes. Yeah. Sorry they are. It's the same thing. So this one here, these are pom pom, birth to a pom pom. So we've got Withered Abbas, should we start with that one? Yeah, please. A beautiful pink, pale pink pom pom.

I love the fact that it's called the Wizard of Oz. Oh, it's quite a well-known variety, so you could easily available online this one or most garden centres. It's been out for quite a number of years right so what we want to do we've got a large perennial pot I'd say it's about 30, no it's not 30, it's about 20 centimeters isn't it? Is that an osmo? Yeah about 20 centimeters wide so this tuba is probably like a medium size they come in all different shapes and sizes something

really weird don't worry if you've got some that are quite small like if you look at that one that's really small it doesn't matter hold that up this yeah that's what I mean like they're all very weird and wonderful aren't they? yeah like that one I've just filled up that pot should I have not done that? no that's perfect you want to probably take a little bit out. So, if we've got any dangly bits that we don't want to... This one's actually okay. You can cut these stringy bits off if there's too many of them, but this one isn't too bad.

So we're just going to place it in compost. So we filled the pot with some compost. So we filled the pot with some compost, put it in and then we're just gonna put the compost on. This is just starting off the dahlia to get it sprouting. And then give it a good drink because as soon as we water it, it wakes up the dahlia. So as it is in the packet, it's dormant so it's like a sleep for winter so as soon as it's got that water in the compost it will start growing they will take some time has that got to be covered completely fully even this middle bit here that's hard stems fine fine okay so the hard stem which holds all the bulbs together

sorry the tuber together that hard stem you can leave out. Okay. So the new growth, right, this is a tuber, and these are called eyes. So the new growth will come out these eyes here. What I'm gonna ask you to do, if you don't mind, with everything we've planted, if you can do a little fact, how to plant,

and then just add me, and then I can put it on all my socials and that'll be brilliant for everybody. Right, okay, lovely. I hope you're enjoying this yet, but I know it's very different and I'm not talking about what I usually talk about, all the rubbish that I talk about, but it's so nice to just do something mindful and I hope you're enjoying a nice chilled episode. Right so we're giving the potted tuber with it planted in lovely peat-free compost, good drink. Now what I would say is give it a really really good drink. Yeah if you're outside sometimes I just use my big watering can. And when do I water these again?

Because you said the sweet peas I don't water now. Yeah, so I think with all of them we're not going to water them again really until they've started sprouting. Okay. That's probably enough now. Good. Do the touch test. If you look at them and think oh it's a bit dry.

Sometimes peat-free compost is brilliant, but it does dry out quicker. So if you have a little feel and it is feeling dry, they shouldn't do. So if we're putting lids on everything, I don't always cover my dahlias, they start growing. But if you feel like it's probably a bit too warm, you can put a little cover over or something over them. Okay just to keep in the moisture. Yeah I personally don't do that I haven't needed to. Right okay. Right next one so what's the next Alia that we've got? We have got this one snowflake. The

snowflake we didn't sorry I didn't mention this in the garden center it got hidden under a creeping time that i got from arc um but i love this because it's just pure white yeah i just love it i love the look of it it's so pretty yeah and i just think they'll go so lovely with the wizard of oz's yeah really pretty yeah that bulb's a bit smaller isn't it than the wizard of oz some of them you might buy buy daily and the tuber might just only have two little bits. I keep saying bulb I beg your pardon. No it is a bulb, when you get them just have a look like this bit, it's just a bit squidgy so get rid of that bit.

Okay. Have a little feel, you want them nice and firm. Yeah. Yeah, so that's good to go. Okay. There we go, Pop that one in. Compost on top. Now, if you don't want to start your dahlias off now, you could wait until the start of May, the last week of April and plant them out. So if you buy your dahlias now,

just make sure they're in a cool place, maybe in your garage, breathable, maybe open up the packaging a little bit. It's just finding what works for you again. Because it is quite time consuming doing starting dahlias. But even if you do like we're doing three today, three dahlias, you know, you could plant more out in April. Yeah yeah of course. But doing it this way it works well because the slugs and snails you're giving them a chance to grow so when we plant these out they'll be a bit strong they're established mini plants so you know you still got the battle with the slugs and snails but they're not gonna eat those first leaves.

I am gonna try and keep all of what we're growing in containers because then I know they're mine. Not being selfish, but I want them in my pots. No, I just want them, I don't want them in the grout. I was like, oh, what's going over that? Something sprouts up and it's in the way because I'm not very good with my beds yet or anything. You know what I mean? I don't quite know what's out there I want

to really look after these so I'm gonna keep them in the pots and also just for anybody again who's listening who hasn't got a garden got a little balcony I feel like they can grow along with me if I keep it into the containers and what's nice you can do a container display and you can move them around the sun's always moving if you feel like a container display and you can move them around, because the sun's always moving. If you feel like they're not getting enough sun, move them around. You know, make a little gallery pop display.

Yes. So your kids enjoy you doing this. They do, yeah. My daughter, she's nearly three. Her favorite thing at the moment is watering. My son loves, he does love it. He's grown up with it, because I only found growing

and gardening in the national lockdown. So he was always sowing the seeds with me. You know, his thing at the moment is finding bugs. Oh, they love it, don't they? Yeah, he's making bug hotels. Did you not do that though, when you were little? I used to find all the worms. Did you, yeah.

And then get a shoe box and put all the leaves in and make them a little, yeah, make them a little house. It's so good for them. Last year it was snails. It's brilliant because it's getting rid of all my snails. We've only found about 50 snails. They were hiding all in the raised beds. Oh, that's a cracking idea. I'm going to get Joni to do that. However many you find. Yeah, well we had the lid on and then next morning the bird must have taken the lid off. They're all gone or is it they've escaped? I never know. They've all got together and go on emergency meeting. They're getting rid of all the family. We've got to move out quick I don't like using slug killer or no. I use sheep's wool. Don't we need some more water? Sorry, darling

So I use sheep's wool on top of my daily is So I use sheep's wool on top of my dahlias. That works really well. Right. So you can buy something called haughty wool and you just, it comes in wool and just... Pull it apart and go around it. Yeah, but it stops them from eating your dahlias. Oh wow. That's enough. Yeah. I think so. Have a little look, see what you think. Yeah, that's perfect. Yeah. Yeah, that's all good. That's everything. So, we've done everything.

It's marketed. Now, be honest, that's taken us about an hour. Yeah. But we have done quite a lot. We have done quite a lot. So even if you haven't got a lot of time and you buy one packet of seeds that I've done, please let me know.

I don't expect you at all to do loads and loads and loads but if you fancy for the first time like me having some cut flowers pop out get a little packet of seeds listen to this and send me pictures and we can all keep in touch Facebook's going to be the best place for that I think yeah and it's encouraging others to grow, so I like sharing it. Your neighbor might see it or, yeah. No, it's brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Right then, should we have a tidy up?

Yeah. Because it's given me a lot of anxiety. Really? Here we go. I'm quite messy aren't I? You are quite messy, Kara, but I don't mind it. No, it's all right. We're each to their own and all that. Jesus

Christ. I can't believe that we've done it all. I know. It's brilliant. How many plants have we got? About 41-ish, like over 40. 41 plants and we've probably spent under about £8 on seeds. Well, the dahlias were a five a each. So if you know obviously the dahlias are a little bit more expensive so they were £4.99 each but if you take those away or even if you did one of those so say we've got one dahlias and that's £4.99 plus the seeds that we've planted I reckon and the materials that we've used because I've recycled a lot from the garden yeah and recycled the trays really from last year plus the grape tray etc I reckon it's sort of a tenner ish yeah 10 12 quid yeah for 41

plants I know that is and that is mad if you buy a daily a potty plant from the garden center probably in July August you're looking at like 15 pound for one plant. Really? Yeah and think about all the cut flowers like Stave's you could buying a bunch from the supermarket. Yeah. I'm really looking forward to it thank you so so much. I'm so excited. So when am I having you back once they've sprouted once once they're outside, so how big are they gonna get? So in about what a month six weeks time?

I think six weeks time yeah that would be a good time. Yeah so we'll have lots of plant babies with their true leaves. And then we'll start planting them out. Yeah well we might have to pot them on. Pot them on? Pot them on into our little pots. Okay. And then they should all be in outside, kind of in their-

Pulled frame or what? Pulled frame or little box. But yeah, and then we can talk about what to do next. Yeah. Perfect. One step at a time. But I'm so excited for everyone's flowers. I am too. It's gonna be really lovely seeing them all.

Thank you everybody. I hope you're having a really relaxing time. I hope you've enjoyed this little flower special and I shall speak to you really, really soon. Enjoy, see ya. Hi, this is Chris McCorsland. And this is Diane Buswell. And we've got a new podcast, haven't we, Di?

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