Life with Nat - EP99: Tony talks #6

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

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When I have a Chinese, if I wake up in the morning yeah I feel severely hungover yes the worst hangover ever I know people say it's salt I'm not sure it is I think it's the MSG I think so welcome to life with Nat very special guest as always Tony my brother's here tonight it's Friday evening I know you're listening on a Thursday or any other day of the week actually. But it's lovely to have Tony here because I haven't seen him for a while and you've all missed him because I put out a message tonight and we've got some really lovely messages that I'll go through in a little while but first we're going to have a chat. How are you Tony? Yeah not too bad. Yeah. Yeah

not too bad. Good. But that MSG you're right it's absolutely... You know that there's a restaurant, the Chinese would go to in... ...in Cofso. Is it Cofso? I think so. Or Cuffley, is it? Cuffley, Cuffley, Cuffley. That's right. Called House. Yeah. Well, apparently they don't use MSG. And the times I've been there, I don't have that hangover feeling the next morning. Oh, there you go.

But I know what you mean, yeah. And thirsty as well. Gaspin'. Honest. Yeah. Like you're on yeah, and thirsty as well. Gaspin. Honest. Yeah. Like you're on a desert island in the middle of the night, 100 degrees of heat. It's true. It is, isn't it? Four o'clock in the morning, scrabbling around on your bedside table for anything that looks

like water or... It is true. It's awful, isn't it? Yeah, the Chinese isn't the one. I think we'll leave the Chinese. Okay, we'll row that one out then. It depends, you see, who delivers to you as well, doesn't it? Oh, that's right. This is a big thing now. Yeah, the Chinese isn't the one. I think we'll leave the Chinese. Okay, we'll roll that one out then. It depends, you see, who delivers to you as well, doesn't it?

This is a big thing now, because we don't want to go out, do we? We're going to have a couple glasses of wine and we're going to have a chat and don't want to be getting in the car going somewhere. Curry is a good one, if there's a good curry. Curry is a good one. And we mentioned Turkish. Yes, we had a lovely Turkish at the Rove Mustnick closed. Oh, really? Yeah, during Covid they opened up a cafe or something, we had a lovely Turkish at the Rove Mustnick closed. Oh, really?

Yeah, during COVID they opened up a cafe or something, it was a bit rubbish. But it was a go-to takeaway because it was fresh. Oh, what was it called? Samdan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was fresh, it was brilliant, beautiful meat, good chicken, good lamb, rice, lovely salad.

That's what's nice because it's a healthy takeaway. It's a healthy takeaway if there is such a thing. I don't know if there is but... No, I think you're right. Yeah, so a health conscious takeaway is always good but there aren't many about. Greek or Turkish is always nice because you've got the grilled meat, it's not all saucy. That's right, yeah. We'll see how we feel.

I'm really hungry now. No, I know, haven't we? I am as well. We've not even ordered yet. It'll be about 12 o'clock. We'll have it on toast. Do you remember when? I think we went to some occasion, some sort of night out. Oh, I remember. We ended up in the kebab house at Green Lanes at 4 o'clock in the morning.

That was ridiculous. Do you remember? Yeah. We said we'd have some fried dog shit. Yeah. And we ate it. It was ridiculous. Do you remember? Yeah. We said we'd have some fried dog shit. Yeah, and we ate it. It was lovely. That was a Savoy. We went to the Savoy for one of the Lady Taverners' stew,

the Savoy. That's right, with Wendy. Yeah, yeah. Great nights. Great nights. Brilliant. Starving when you get out. Getting pissed with Chris Tarrant.

Yeah. Yeah. Funny. Couple of people on Facebook message tonight. The age old question of, how am I so grounded? And how did you feel and still feel about me being in the public eye? Yeah. I don't know if you can answer that. Background, simple. Yeah. Sorry, just background. We're just a working class family, Noes and Graces.

We're very normal people. I think we're quite decent people, quite nice people. Yeah. As a family. Yeah. I don't think there's any real nasty ones out of all of us. And it's just your background, isn't it? Mum was very, someone needed a fiver

and she had her last fiver, she'd give it to him. That's what she was like. And I think we're a bit like that ourselves. So I think background's got a lot to do with it. And for me, you growing up in the public eye, I mean, for me, I'm incredibly proud. Like incredibly proud of what you've done. But it's difficult as well,

because you get some nasty comments and read stuff or hear stuff and whatever. And as your big brother, I want to punch their heads in, but I can't. Yeah. I'm not allowed to. So yeah, it's a double edged sword for me. What is interesting is that you square the circle a lot

where you're involved. So look, for instance, a few years ago now, I was going fishing and I'm going over this place, fishing matches and this bloke comes up and says, oh, I know your sister. Yeah. It was Darren who used to see you at the school gates or I'll be somewhere and someone will mention that you're my sister and someone will go, oh, I know such and such and there's this sort of, it's almost like there's this big circle and it squares itself a lot of

the time. Yeah, I hear that from a lot of family. Because of you. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah, I hear that from a lot of family. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah, no, I've just always been incredibly proud. I remember the day you got the EastEnders job as well.

I was working in the office and mum phoned me and I just put the phone down. I just stood up to shout it to the office. My little sister's just got an EastEnders. Everyone started laughing and clapping and whatever. Yeah. Goodness me. Yeah.

And now I'm gone. Yeah, you're finished, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Done. Finished. New beginnings. Yeah. New chapter. Yeah, that's right. That's right.

That's good. You feel like you're on holiday at the moment, don't you? I do. I do. Because it's only been a couple of weeks. So it's quite a strange feeling. Just feels like a holiday or a little break. And obviously I had four months off last year and those four months, because you know you're going back,

but I really enjoyed that time. Sort of squeeze loads in it, but you always had your eye on that sort of date when you had to go back then. So I feel I feel like I'm going to need a good six to eight months. Yeah, before you really feel it. Before I actually think I'm not going back. Yeah. Yeah. Funny.

Yeah, it is. It is. But you'll be surprised. You know, you think it's the end of the world or it's, you know, you're going to miss loads of people and all the rest of it. Life moves on. Yeah. No, you're right. You know, it really does. I mean, I had friends when I was, all stages of life, when I think these are going to be my friends forever and I was saying, for 30 years. And it's just life, it just moves on.

And you adapt and change according to where you are and what you're doing. That's an interesting subject actually, because I don't have any friends from school. No I've had a few try to contact me but I'm not really that interested I didn't enjoy school so. I'd say acquaintances now they'll pop up on Facebook or Instagram and yeah send a message but I do think in life you change as a person and you evolve. Oh without a doubt. And I think having friends,

I'm not saying I'm gonna get rid of friends that I've got now, because I think you get to a certain age and you find your people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But to make an effort with people that I knew all those years ago, that I haven't seen for a long time, there's not enough time. No, there isn't, no.

That's how I feel about it. Maybe I'm wrong. No, I don't think No. That's how I feel about it. Maybe I'm wrong. No, I don't think so. I think it can be quite negative as well, because, you know, people can say, like, you'll grow as a person or you'll improve as a person. And then people go, well, you've changed. Yes.

Oh, you've changed. Yeah. And you have, but not, you're not changing a bad way. You've just grown or become better in you or done what you want to do or and that's really difficult I think for older friends or people used to know it's quite difficult for them to understand sometimes, to grasp it that you you are actually a different person now than what you were. I had a phone call not mentioning any names and it wasn't a bad friend call but it was out of the blue.

My number ain't changed for years. So this bloke went, oh alright, we're all getting together soon but no one is from you. And I thought, why would I want to go out with you? Really? It's a shame, but I went, oh, sorry about that, and had this really awkward conversation. Conversation, yeah, yeah. I thought, fuck that. Yeah, things just change, don't they, sometimes? Yeah. People just have to accept that they do.

Yeah. Definitely. Before we go on to messages, one thing, and I thought of you today, I put it in our group, our little WhatsApp chat. I've just thought, Tony will know, Tony will answer this for me. Why are there, everywhere I go, road works and it's always this time of year? Is it a bit to do with the tax year finishing?

I think it's because of budget and the end of the financial year. Everywhere I go there's a road closure. I started work on the council. I remember you. I did my apprenticeship, electrical apprenticeship on his little council. And from what I understand and I don't know if they still do it, they operate at what they call a year on year budget. So they get a certain amount of money. Yeah. So they try and allocate, you know, and spend it in the right way. Mm-hmm. But if they get to around now and they've got a few quid,

they have to spend it because if they don't, they lose it the next year. Okay. So we only ever got new tools, like new drills and things like that in March. Right. When they knew they had some money to spend or new ladders or whatever it might be.

Right, okay. I don't know how true it is, but there's certainly, to me, there's a correlation between lots of stuff happening in February, March, and the financial year is normally in April. Yes. I could be completely wrong. Drives me mad. I think they just love digging the roads up, don't they? Roads closed.

Yeah, ice murder. Especially here. Yeah. Closing a road is quite a big deal because you can only get out one way yeah I know yeah yeah yeah so it really aggravates me then I had a letter from the council they are changing the bin system all right oh that's good that's always a good one what is it once a year? The black bin with everything in it. Dirty rubbish, yeah.

Three weeks. No. Three weeks. You better get some rat poison. Isn't that ridiculous? Well what I don't understand. They're going to have the food waste every week. Oh wonderful.

You know what I'm saying? Potato peelings and stuff, you know that's not. Which we've got our own compost up. But that's rubbish, isn't it? What I don't understand with these people is what makes them think that because they're telling you they're going to pick your bins up once every three weeks, you're going to start eating less or consuming less? I don't know.

Where do they think it goes? I don't know. But I also pay an astronomical amount of cancer tax. Well, everyone does. I mean, where we live now, if you've got five in a family, you can have large bins. Yes. But if you've, there's only four in a family,

you have the smaller bins. You're not allowed the large bins, you can have smaller bins. So they then said, every two weeks we're gonna collect your rubbish. And we looked at each other and said, well, God knows what we're gonna do here. But this is the best one.

So you try and be clever. So what I do is, is you squeeze all the air out of the black bags. Not vacuum packed, but you don't put them in with all air in them. And I'll get on that bin and I'll push it down. Mark stands on it, gets in it. Yeah.

They've stopped taking the bin because it's too heavy. Can you believe it? Can you believe it? There's these blokes, right? They would not look out of place in a bare knuckle fight. I come home and the bin's still on the pavement. Where you've left it's the worst. Where Sharon's left it.

Yeah. And I say, why am I not taking the bin? She's got steam coming out of her ears. Because not only have we got that bin, we've got another four bins worth somewhere that we have to secret away until we can get rid of it. And she said, the bin's too heavy. That is crazy. It's all on machines now. Don't have to wheel it down and clip it on. Bin bins too heavy. That is crazy. It's all on machines now.

Don't have to wheel it down and clip it on. Bins too heavy. Leave the lid open. Not collecting it. No, no. There can't be even a gap. No, not collecting it. But I do understand, you know, recycling is important. They want to, you know, all of those things. No, I absolutely... The food, the plastic, they're telling me where to put things. That's important. They wanna, you know, all of those things. The food, the plastic, they're telling me

where to put things, that's fine. The other week, they didn't collect our recycling bin. Right. So I said to Cheryl, why have they not collected the recycling bin, I don't know. And then when I've looked, she had some recycling in a black bin liner and she's put the bin liner in the recycling bin. She's just rushing

about and she's forgot to empty the recycling bin. Easy mistake. Easily done. Yeah. But it says on the bin or whatever on the website, no black bags or bin liners. So that's our fault. Yeah. So fair enough.

Understand. We hold our hands up. That's our fault. But what I'm supposed to do with seven tonnes of rubbish other than that, I've got no idea. Honestly. So we now regularly have to spend Saturday mornings going down the tip with just household rubbish. I don't know what else you're supposed to do with it. I can't, we can't stop eating. I mean, if I could go somewhere where they gave you food with no packaging.

Well, I was just about to say that. That's really interesting because then you get people say, you can get all your fruit and your meat. You go to the butcher and you go to the farm shop and you get, that's all very well. I think it's very expensive. Very expensive. Very, very expensive. We all want to have no packaging, but it's very, very difficult for people to be able to live like that. Well, it is.

And don't forget, everyone now, because of the world the way it is, there's no high street anymore. We're all being pushed on online shopping. We're all being pushed down the Amazon, eBay. Everything you get is click and collect. You know, you can't go and buy a pair of shoes now. You've got to go and have them click and collected

at Waitrose or Sainsbury, or wherever it is, I don't know. And this stuff comes, and you've got half go and have them click and collected at Waitrose or Sainsbury's or whatever it is I don't know. And this stuff comes and you've got half the Amazon rainforest wrapped around it. The parcels that I've got, I've got a photo shoot on Monday you might have seen down there. Someone has sent me a pair of sandals I'm not joking. I can't wait to open it. Unless I've ordered four pairs of sandals by mistake the box is is, I would say, imagine buying a pair of very large knee-high Wellington boots. It's a really large rectangular cuboid, massive box. And I've ordered a pair of sandals. And it'll have another box in it and a load of bubble wrap around it or whatever it might

be. Bubble wrap or paper or, I don't know what you do with all of it. No, I know. And the maddest thing is, is that they do that for a pair of sandals, yet my bubble wrap around it or whatever it might be. Bubble wrap on paper or... Yeah. I don't know what you do with all of it. No, I know. And the maddest thing is, is that they do that for a pair of sandals, yet my customers will order a vanity unit for a bathroom and it comes like wrapped in a wet paper bag and a bit of sellotape and every time you get them they're damaged. They're all smashed to pieces in the box, whether they've been chucked about or whatever.

So it seems that they can wrap up the stuff that's inconsequential and then the stuff that needs wrapping up, they don't. I don't understand it. No, I don't get it. But the packaging that we now generate is quite disgraceful, really. It's obscene.

So any ideas that going to three week bin collections is a good idea? I'd like to know the person week bin collections is a good idea. I'd like to know the person that thinks that's a good idea. Where we are, where you live, but where I am, there's fly tipping for Christ's sake. There's so much fly tipping in the country roads. They just tip shit on the road and that's it. Because you can't get into tips now. Like I've got a van.

Yes, yeah. I can't get into my local, I think you might have to pay so much every time you go in there or whatever, which I understand, because I don't want people just going in there getting rid of all their rubbish, building rubbish. But there's got to be,

someone somewhere has got to understand that if you stop people from getting rid of what they've got to get rid of in a responsible manner and don't allow them to do that, then this stuff's going to end up somewhere else. Oh, it's a bit like, I know you've touched on it before, but the rivers and the seas. It's brilliant what the Victorians did with the sewage and all the stuff, but we've got bigger and bigger and bigger. The population's got bigger and the infrastructure's not there for our sewage at all.

So now they're just tipping it into the river and the seas. I think a lot of that's got to do with the fact that Thameswater were nearly bankrupt, that's what that was, and most of them are by the sounds of it. I think there's a wider political issue there with privatisation and money being taken out of it and all the rest of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm afraid. But I do worry.

I worry about, I know I'm sitting here having a mundane moan regarding the rubbish, but I think you're right. I think people are going to see a lot more rubbish on the streets. It's just incredible. I mean, we have skips. We're builders. We have skips. We have all sorts of shit chucked in our skips.

I bet you do. You know, we've turned up on a Monday after having a new skip on a Friday and it's virtually full up. Yeah. Where people just pull up and just chuck all their stuff in it. Bloody hell. Fly tip it and it's in your skips and stuff. But it will happen because if you've got a local authority who's responsible for that

service, they're responsible to the taxpayer. It's their job. It's not their job to say, well, we know you've got a load of rubbish, but we don't care. I'm not interested in what rubbish you've got. We're only gonna pick it up once every three weeks because we're the council, we do what we like. That's not their job.

Their job is to service the council tax payer. And we are all paying a lot of money. That's their job. And to say that they're only gonna do it once a month or once every three weeks is dereliction of money. That's their job. Yeah. And to say that they're only going to do it once a month or once every three weeks is a dereliction of duty if nothing, it just is. Because this stuff's going to end up in one of my skips probably. Probably. Where are you next week?

I've just had a new one dropped. I'll give you the address. I'll text it to you. No, it just wound me up because again, I'd sort things. I am quite good. I will wash out my tins. I put them in the recycling. I do, you know, the best I feel that I can do.

And to say that your black bin is not going to be collected for three weeks, it's obscene. I don't even know where I'd go with that because. I don't know what I'm gonna do. What do you do with it? I think I'm gonna have to scurry some away in sort of little bags, take it if I go to the supermarket find a normal bin genuinely. Oh yeah that's a good idea. You know that bins? Yeah yeah. I think I'm gonna just have to do that. And then everyone's gonna do that and they'll all be full up and well we could just if just... I mean you've got a nice garden but let's just turn it into a landfill. We could do.

Seagulls and you know all sorts. I'd rather not do that, Tony. No, no. It's not a good idea. If possible. Well at least not when the kids are here anyway. No. Let's see what people have had to say. Oh dear.

No, it's lovely. I said, brother Tony's coming up for a takeaway and a catch up. If you've got anything you'd like me and my brother to chat about, let me know. Carol said, Tony, yeah! With a lot of exclamation marks. I like you, Carol. You're involved, you're in it. I like it.

Favourite takeaway and is it on your knee in front of the telly or at the table? Oh I'm at the table these days. Yeah these days yeah. Because I get it all down me. I'm like a big old slovenly pig with it all down the front of me otherwise no good. If you listen to Off the Telly with myself and Joanna Page you'll know that I don't eat in my living room. No thank you.

No it's too nice. It's at the table. Yeah definitely. Dinner should be eaten at the table with conversation. Yes. Apart from when Joni's there and she puts the telly on. Yeah but that's. You know that's by the by. That's by the by. But no on the table and yeah favourite takeaway we just said about the Chinese and the MSG if you've got a good Chinese, I love a Chinese. I love a wonton. I love bits. Oh, you're a bits person, aren't you?

Yeah, I don't mind, but I love a noodle. Oh yeah. What sort of noodle? Singapore noodle, yeah. Yeah, which is even worse, because not only is it full of salt and MSG, it's got chili and stuff in it as well. So you're literally, like you've basically got your head under the,

you know, head under the tap all night. Yeah. Because it's so, yeah, it's... I love a salt and pepper prawn. Mmm. With all the garlic and the chilli, like you said, gasping all night long. Yeah, keep on going, I'm going to die here in a minute if you carry on. Salt and pepper prawn.

I'm so hungry. We could have opened up a packet of Chinese. We are, aren't we? We're talking ourselves into it. Deep fried wonton. Yeah. I'm terrible. I like all the deep fried things. But I won't eat loads of it. But I'll have a prawn toast, a wonton, some prawns, a bit of chilli beef. That'll do me. I like all those bits. Yeah, bits and pieces. Yeah, I like the bits. But a favourite takeaway for me, I bit of chilli beef. That'll do me. I like all those bits. Bits and pieces. Yeah, I like the bits. But a favourite takeaway from me, I haven't got one. It depends what mood I'm in and on with. Well, we had one last week. Just thought about the blue really on Sunday night because... Sunday night?

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it'd been a busy weekend and both tired and... Oh, the kids weren't there first time in ages so we thought we'd treat ourselves. So we had a curry and ordered chicken vindaloo and it was unbelievable. Good one. It was really, really good. I mean, I've suffered the next day, my God. But you enjoyed it.

Oh, but it was lovely. It was really hot, but it was really fresh. And it wasn't, it was a really good hot it wasn't just unbearable but it was it was hot but not terrible and it was really nice and you always know when you've had a good curry because you get up the next morning think I could eat that again tonight which obviously I never would but if you've had a really good curry that's the for me you don't regret it no you actually feel like you could eat it again the next day. OK.

That's for me, because it was so nice that you think, oh, I could eat that again. Here's a question. Go on. I've known people to order a takeaway, order too much. Yes. And then they put it in the fridge and eat it the next day for lunch. It's brilliant that people do it. I have to hold my hands up. I can't eat leftovers from a takeaway. I can't help it. I just can't do it. I will give it out,

give it to people. I don't want to throw it in the bin. No, no. But I just wondered if you had half of Vindaloo left, would you take it to work the next day for instance? No. No. No, I wouldn't. No. Just wondered.

Cause people do. But I know like we've got family members and that. I know people that do, they order a bit too much and they'll have it the next day for lunch and they quite enjoy it. Yeah. You know, so if they're happy, I think they're happy doing it.

It's great. Yeah, brilliant. I mean, I always, I'm always dubious of rice because I've read somewhere. Yeah, I've read that. It's mad. That if you reheat it, it kills you or something. Yeah.

Is that right? No, I've, where have we, that is true. But now apparently you die if you reheat rice. I'm not sure if you die. This is not a public service announcement to anyone who's had a bit of reheated rice, don't panic. But I read somewhere that it's really dangerous. I've never ever tried to reheat it.

I have read the same. I don't know how true that is. I have read the same, I really have. Is it an urban myth? No, I think there is germs within rice if you reheat it. Right, all right. But I think once you can reheat it, I've done it at work. I see people with whatever they've had the night before

and they chuck it in the microwave and I'm the first one. It's like, no, don't do the rice, you can't eat it. They're like, what are you talking about? I always really eat rice. So maybe if you get a bad grain, I'm not sure. That's the only thing that's ever sort of stopped me really but in terms of favorite takeaway it all depends the only thing I can't stand never ever order not for me not for the children is a takeaway pizza yeah as in a Domino's or a... I understand. Fuck myself up for adverts, don't I?

Yeah, you have there. Oh, shock. You've got no chance with Domino's now. Pizza are alright though. No, I'm just joking. No, I don't like takeaway pizzas. No, but see again, those chain pizzas, I agree. Yeah.

I think the only one that's sort of passable, I think it's Papa John's do a vegetarian one. Oh, okay. Which is sort of all right. But we've got a couple of Italiany sort of places near us, restaurants that do take away. Oh, brilliant. And they do their own pizzas. Stone baked. Stone baked.

And they're really nice. Absolutely. I just think, I think the supermarket ones are so good now. St. Spirits, Marks's, the stone baked. Put them in the oven. And they're much now. St. Spirits Marks's, the stone baked, put them in the oven and they're much cheaper. Yeah, I mean these pizzas that you get, they think they're doing you a deal, you get a small one, a large one and a can of Coke or whatever, 38 quid or whatever it is. Yeah, it's crazy. And they're all really doughy, aren't they? Yeah, really, really

doughy. Yeah, and some of them have got that crap in the crust as well, they've got some cheesy stuff in the crust, don't they? That's the only bit I like oh god no that's the only bit I like a bit of stuff cheese and garlic in the crust that bit I don't mind oh I'll agree to disagree on that and that the cheese is like rubber yeah it's not even cheese, it's not even real cheese comes out of a tube yeah I don't mind that yeah but anyway yeah pizza's not for me but everything else depending on who's here it's all up for grabs Comes out of a tube. Yeah, I don't mind that. Yeah. But anyway, yeah, pizza's not for me. No. Everything else, depending on who's here. It's all up for grabs.

It's all up for grabs. Yeah. All up for grabs. So thank you, Carol, for that. Yeah. And thank you for your exclamation marks. I love your enthusiasm. Hayley said, I love how family-orientated you are and how he tells you snippets of your

childhood you don't know. Well, that's because I don't remember much. I don't know if that's good or not, Hayley, to be honest. My memory is shot to pieces and that's because when I learn lines at EastEnders, I feel for all my life I learn something and I throw it away and I genuinely believe that there are different muscles in the brain and I really believe I've been trained to do something and just throw it away. Yeah I know what you mean. Maybe that will change. Don't need to retain it.

I don't retain much but I love it when Tony or David or anyone really says, oh do you remember when this happened? And I don't remember. So it's like a new story. So thank you for that. Here's one that could go on. Go on. Well this could go on for an hour. Oh dear. But we haven't got an hour. But I think this is a good question. Louise Jackson said, but I think this is a good question Louise Jackson said yeah do you or Tony believe in any conspiracy theories oh my god what a question it's a great

question documentary question Nat and tone. Wow. That and tone on conspiracy theories. Yeah, on... What we're doing? UK history. Yeah. I'm gonna have to say yes, I'm afraid. Gonna have to. Tell me more. Well, you have to be really careful with this sort of stuff, don't you?

On social media and Facebook and all that sort of stuff. Listen, it's our pod. It goes and Facebook and all that sort of stuff. Listen, it's our pod. It goes from... We can say what we want. It goes from the Queen being a lizard, you know, and all this sort of stuff you read and a lot of stuff about the Masons and the Freemasons

and all the signs and all the symbolism, a bit like those films, you know, with Tom Hanks in it. What ones? He's a symbolist you know. Don't watch films really? No okay. Not a film watcher? Angels and demons and that sort of thing. Oh okay. He plays a... Oh is that the Dan Brown trilogy? Yeah Da Vinci Code. Da Vinci Code. That's all a bit conspiracy theories, isn't it? For me, the one for me is the pyramids in Egypt. Inconceivable that they were built by blokes pulling rocks up, bits of wood or whatever. I just cannot for life for me see how it was possible. Oh, that's an interesting one because that is your forte.

Well, I like that, you know, like history and and I like that period in history and I've read some interesting stuff about it like I read somewhere that they worked out at that time there weren't even enough people in the world to provide the manpower to build the pyramids in the way that they've said they were built. Right and also the precision of them. Absolutely unbelievable they wouldn't be capable of doing it now with computers and all the rest of it. You know, but 0.1 of a degree north or whatever it is, you know, the base is, I don't know, half a mile long and it's within millimetres at the top and

inconceivable that someone that we actually think that it was a primitive race of some sort that cut these blocks and dragged them up hills or whatever they did, built hill. Even someone else done a time and motion study on it and it worked out, get to move a thousand ton block every 30 seconds or something to build these things. It might not all be true but... What do you think? I don't know. At the risk of sounding like David Icke, I do feel that there could possibly at some point been a race that was more intelligent than we knew about. Yes. And maybe that was lost or than what we knew about. Yes.

And maybe that was lost or whatever, I'm not sure, but... But in terms of the pyramids, do you think there could have been technology, machinery back then? Well, I can't see how there wasn't. Right. I'd love someone to call me out and say it's rubbish or whatever. Yeah. I don't think we've got any Egyptology professors listening but...

Who knows? 0778 20 1919. You never know. Any historians? Please. I am fascinated by stuff like that. Yeah. On the conspiracy theory thing, you know, JFK is the huge one, isn't it? You know, and I've seen lots of programs about it and I've seen the last one I watched a couple of years ago, it's basically, they said it was a, there was a CIA or FBI agent behind him

and his gun went off by mistake and that's what killed him supposedly. You're never gonna know. No, no. I do think there's a lot more to some things than meets the eye, and I think we're told sometimes what people want us to hear. Yes.

Without sounding like a loon. I do. My darling Patsy Palmer. Is very, she loves to chat about all those sorts of things. And I do think there is something behind we get told what they want us to know. Oh, absolutely. And I don't know who they are.

No. When I say they, but you know, it's bigger than it's the secret people that we don't see. Not to talk about Kirsten Stahmer here. We're talking about MI5, you know. Yeah, there's a- All of that secret stuff that we don't know about I think is fascinating. Yeah. I mean, there's organizations, we don't even know the name of them.

There's an organization called Blackrock that sort of owns most of the world. You don't even know it. No one knows who they are. No one knows what it is. It's just, it's an organization and it owns... Really? Yeah, massive lumps of banks and this and that and whatever. Wow.

Very secretive, you know. Does it scare you or do you just get on with it? Because for me in this pod, obviously, and my life, I used to really love watching Question Time. I used to, couldn't wait. Thursday night, after the news, it was a bit late, but I used to stay up for it, really watch it, news night, LBC would be on. And I really found it affected me actually. I became really a bit bitter, anxious, just worried about everything. Everything in the world, you know. So I don't now watch those things. If it's on, I will.

I don't look forward to watching. I won't set a timer for them. I'll put on my music or a podcast that I wanna do. And I feel a lot calmer. Yeah. And sometimes I think, is that a good thing or am I being ignorant to close myself off? Am I being ignorant?

You're not being ignorant, you're realizing as you get older, as the older you get, you realize that there's not really a great deal you can do about any of it. No. So you can only worry about you and yours. And I'm not talking about being, you know, in a horrible way.

I do care about other people and what goes on, but you sort of realize that a lot of the time you can't affect it. There's not really anything you can do. So I think shutting yourself off from it is not a bad thing. I mean, Dad, the last couple of years of his life, he used to sit and watch the news all day long and it drove him mad. It phoned me up and say, you know, the world's going to end because of, you know, the oil price has gone up or because he was watching something

on whatever it was, you know, some channel where they're saying there's going to be a world recession because the price of oil has gone up by $2 a barrel or whatever it is. I think you can really overdo it with the news. I think it's quite dangerous, you know, if you're just taking that in all the time. They never, let's be honest, there's very rarely any good news. You know, good news doesn't make news, does it? No, it's all bad news. It's all problems. It's all wars and murders and famines and whatever else.

You know, it's not a nice thing to be involved in. And I think in your local area, shutting yourself off, as I say, LBC, just, I don't know, it was just all a bit much for my brain. But what I will do is a beautiful lady got in touch with me last week on Instagram. Her friend had a few days to live and they wanted to raise some funds for the family. So I will share that post and they can't thank me enough. So locally, like you say, you and yours, but then extend that to where you live or people that might get in touch.

And if you can do a little bit, you can help someone. If you can do someone a good turn, yeah, that's right. A good turn. I'm talking about the big picture. That's what I mean. The stuff that... If there's going to be a recession, you can't stop it. No... If there's going to be a recession, you can't stop it. No. If there's going to be a war, you can't stop it.

No. If there's going to be a riot, you can't stop it. You can have your point of view on it. Yep. You can, you know, be vocal about it, but you're not going to be able to stop those big things from happening. No. And because they're so negative, a lot of them, but you're not going to be able to stop those big things from happening. No. And because they're so negative, a lot of them, I think it's probably best that you

pay attention. Yes. But you don't. Also, I really do hold my hands up to people where you have marches and, you know, people Yeah, but that's their democratic right. That's their democratic right to... Yeah. That's what I'm saying.

Voice your opinion. You can voice your opinion. You can do that. And obviously in the past, some civil rights stuff has been changed because of people marching, which I understand. But I'm talking about now, these days, if you've got a major thing going on in the world, you sitting at home and agonizing over it isn't going to change it. That's the point I'm making. I'm talking about the big stuff. But you're stressing yourself. You're stressing home and agonizing over it isn't going to change it. That's the point I'm making. I'm talking about the big stuff.

But you're stressing yourself. You're stressing yourself out. Yes. You're stressing yourself out for something that you can't impact. Now if they're going to build an incinerator on the football pitch in your village or your town, you can get out there and you can march and you can argue and you can go to meetings and you can... Those local issues you can affect. I'm not disputing that.

I'm talking about the big... Worldwide, massive. Worldwide, massive, big stuff. That is on the news most of the time. You can't do a great deal about it. So it's to some extent, it's pointless wasting your energy. That's how I feel. That's how I feel.

Yeah, sometimes I feel guilty about it. I know, there's other people that will say, well, you need to, you know, if you're going to be informed and intelligent, you've got to have a view on world politics and all that, which again, I understand, but if it's negative to you, if it makes you... If it's not good for your mental health, I don't think you should do it. Melissa Thompson or Melissa? Hi Nat, let's talk Easter eggs. No thank you. We'll do that in a couple of weeks thank you.

I like the question, what's your favourite egg? But not yet. Easter's late this year. I shall bookmark it. Suzanne Thompson said, looking forward to this, can you ask Tony why my living room wall has cracks in it? It was plastered a year ago, then painted. Oh my god.

I've just recently noticed a massive crack in the middle of the wall, with all smaller cracks going from it. It's noticeable, especially on a sunny bright day. Oh dear. It's just movement with the house isn't it? My lounge is the same. Yeah. Got all beautifully painted. Yeah. I've got a couple of big cracks in there now so you can help me and Suzanne. Cracks are so difficult, so difficult. I talked to someone, one of my customers about them today.

We do jobs and you don't get a crack. Other times stuff opens up, stuff moves, you'll get a crack for no apparent reason. If it's a wall in a, is it a living room, did you say? Yes. See, just because it's been re-plastered doesn't necessarily mean that it won't crack again. They might've just skimmed over what was there. So if you've got some stuff that's loose,

if the substrate's loose, come away from the brickwork or whatever. A lot of people do it. They don't want to hack everything back to bare. So they unibond it or prime it and they'll skim it and it will get rid of the problem for a while. But if you've got a loose substrate, then you will get cracking as a result.

There's other stuff as well. You know, if they've used the sand and cement render, if it was done as part of damp proofing and stuff like that, that's notorious for cracking and crazing a few months after it's been done. So yeah, difficult one to answer, but sometimes houses have a fault line on them. I've got one in my house where two walls meet and external wall meets the sort of hallway wall meets an outside wall. Right.

And on the inside in the living room, doesn't matter what I do to it, this crack opens up. Literally, I've been there 22 years, I've done it five times. Oh wow. I've filled it, I've meshed it, I've taped it, I've raked it out and done it again and it just keeps cracking. And it's probably a construction defect where it's not tied in properly. Maybe the foundations might be slightly different heights, levels, whatever. And it's just a movement in the house. So yeah, not sure. It's a pain. I mean, the only way to deal with it is to try and repair it. If not, there's some good lining

papers now, which will help to get over the problem. But ultimately, if it's happened and it keeps happening, then it's a hack it off, get it back to bare brick work and work it back from there. That's the only way you're going to know if you're going to deal with it properly. I'd put a bit of masking tape over it and paint over that. Lucy, talking of damp proofing riveting Friday night conversation I know yes but I would love to know Tony's thoughts on damp proofing oh my god our house is a mid-terrace two up two down right desperate need of a lot of work including including rewiring. Some say damp proofing, others say don't. Thanks Nat and Tony. Some say damp, well, have you got damp?

I suppose is the first question. If you've got rising damp, you've got to deal with it. Number one. She doesn't actually specify. No. If she's got damp, but she does say in desperate need of work. Yeah, yeah, okay. So there you go.

There are some properties that are, you know, what you call heritage style properties, where the idea is, is that you let the damp come in and you let it dissipate. So for instance, you use lime plaster, lime mortar and brickwork, it's all breathable. Right. So if you get damp coming in,

you allow that damp to come in and then you ventilate and get rid of it that way. Yeah, so that's a very old fashioned way of doing it. Right. The problem is that what we did in the 1900s or into the 20th century, we started to encapsulate our houses with double glazing and heating and all that sort of stuff. And a lot of them weren't built for it. They weren't built for a sort of hermetically sealed environment, if you like.

So that doesn't help. Some are just built badly and they use, you know, they use slate as a damp course and stuff like that. And that just gets breached over time. It breaks down. It doesn't work. So if you've got rising damp in the two up two down, then normally you've got to deal with it. And that is get a damp company

around, they'll do a free survey, be careful, don't get stung. It shouldn't be hundreds of thousands of pounds, it's going to be a few quid. But it normally involves injecting and then seeker rendering or waterproof rendering to a certain height just to stop the damp from coming through. Right. Because it's there, you're not going to stop it. So you've got to act upon it. You've got to act upon it, yeah. But there are various schools of thought on it. And there's lots of stuff on Facebook and various social media channels about damp and how you deal with it.

And some people have terrible, terrible problems. They just can't get rid of it. And it's just, they're just unfortunate that their house is built in a certain way. It works in a certain way. It's got a certain temperature at certain times that that means that they, they get condensation or they'll get them forming or that there's a lack of ventilator. There's loads and loads and loads of stuff. You can't just say that's the reason you've got them. No, no. Karen Crowe said, yay. We love tonn isn't that as with you? No questions for him, just wishing you both a lovely weekend.

Oh that's lovely. That's lovely from Karen. Yeah, thanks Karen. Vicky Patterson says, can we have a rundown on your family tree please, because I really get confused on who is who and which kids belong to which siblings. Love the pod and everyone you talk to but gotta admit Tony is my fave. Oh that's nice thank you. Right I did I was I need to do a picture I'm looking for an animator actually because I'd like a caricature or family tree of the pod which I think people would like again something that I'm thinking about doing. So

which I think people would like. Again, something that I'm thinking about doing. So I have Tony for Tony Talks. Tony is the middle brother. David is my eldest brother, but David hasn't been on. David's wife is Auntie Linnie, who you all know. You haven't heard from Auntie Sharon who's Tony's wife. Then you've got Maria and Elia who are Nat's nieces who are Linda and David's daughters. That's it. That's it. And obviously my Mark that you know Mark is. That's where we are at the moment. Could extend, who knows? I hope that helps. Karen Gilbert said, love your chats with Tony. I'm really looking forward to this. I've missed him. Oh, that's nice. Kerry said, oh, I love Tony. I can't wait. There's a lot of exclamation marks for you. Really? Yeah. Is that good? Yes. Excited. It's excited. Oh great. And there's me going on about landfill. I bet they're going to be absolutely over the moon about that.

I know, yeah. Egyptian pyramids, landfill, bins and roadworks. Enjoy yourself. Donna said, I love the chats you do with Tony. His voice is very calming. I could listen to you two chatting all day long. I've had a lot of people say they really like your voice. Really? Yeah, they find it really calming. Oh, that's nice. It is, isn't it?

Yeah, I'm available for voiceovers if anyone's interested. Someone said they wanted me on their sat nav, which was a bit weird. There you go. Maybe you could start charging people. You know, like people do cameo. What's that?

Cameo's a- That bloke that sings word up. What's that? Cameo's a... That bloat that sings Word Up. What's that? Cameo. Word Up. Don't know it. Oh, sorry. Man of a certain age. Sorry. But it was a great joke. People will be laughing at me. Hopefully, yeah. Anyone that's from sort of my age group must remember cameo and Word

Up. But anyway. Cameo is a video service. Oh, okay. So celebrities... Yep....go on cameo. Yes. My age group must remember Cameo and Word Up, but anyway. Cameo is a video service. Oh, okay. So celebrities go on Cameo and they'll charge whatever from 20 quid to 200, 300, 400 quid for a video message, personal birthday message, an anniversary message, and they do these videos.

So what I'm thinking is we could start our own one. Okay, yeah. And you could do alarm calls. You could read people books. What, do you mean like, wake up you lazy bastard. Just like that. Just like that. Yeah.

Wake up, it's time to get up. Yeah. Don't spoil it, because because people come they're gonna take that down you're gonna use it you've lost money now sorry but there you go I think there could be a market do you reckon for your calming voice yeah you're mad well there's at least four or five people well that doesn't make a market is it but I am grateful it's very nice of people to say it. So thank you very much. It is nice.

Oh, it's been a really nice chat tonight. I've really enjoyed it. So have I. I'm so hungry. Oh no. I could eat a large scabby horse. Yeah. So I think we better sign off.

Yes. And go and choose what we're gonna eat. Definitely. All right. Love you. Love you too. Thanks all for listening. As always 0778 20 1919.

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