Lifeline - 192. A Guy Complimented Chris

Episode Date: December 28, 2025

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Well, um, uh, did you want to interview me about my shingles? Yeah, I did. So, wait, wait, I got to say, first of all, before we even do that, you invited me to do it. No, no, no, it's about that, but, uh, you had shingles. What, who's interviewing who? A while ago. And I want to say, who's to say that wasn't going to literally be my introduction to my interview with you about shingles? Well, because, because I want to start with a disclaimer before the interview. All right. Go ahead. I didn't realize. that it was a thing beyond just like a kind of painful rash. Sure.

And so I would have given you more sympathy. And I feel like I wanted you to know that. And I wanted to tell you that because I didn't know that you were going through that. Yeah. Singles, anybody who's had it knows it's, well, it can range from like pretty mild. Yeah, mine is mild. Right. But like it's hell.

Considering so was mine. Yeah. But generally people that are older with immune, what do you call it, immunocompromised deficiency, immunocompromise, whatever, and people who are under great duress or stress or whatever, you know, but it's rarer for people your age and younger. I guess so. Doctors are saying they've been seeing it more from 40 plus. Really?

I wasn't even, I mean, I wasn't close to 40 when I had mine. Really? In my early 30s, yeah. Dude, yeah. Wait, wait, wait, no. Yes. Yes, 100% yes. I thought you just had it.

That's crazy. That's crazy. I had it literally when I was with... On your face, right? And I was with the girl with the same name that Anthony's married to. And your face? On your face? Yeah, dude, I had my forehead.

Okay, so my experience... Wait, hold on. Okay. You didn't have shingles while we were recording Lifeline once? Oh, no, no, no, no. Whoa, I got that in my head. No, no, no. I literally have a vision of you.

Years and years before that. Okay. I mean, not years and years. But when you started Lifeline, it's probably like three or four years, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah.

Okay. Geez. Wow. Wow. Wow. It's crazy what the mind can do, huh? Yeah, it really actually is. Maybe it's the shingles doing that.

Could be. So, okay. So briefly, mine was quite literally. Yeah. You could get anywhere in your body. Yeah. You mostly get it on your back or your face. Or your side or chest.

Not mostly on the face. Yeah, a lot of people are in the face. Oh, really? Yeah. And I got it. didn't get down my face got one one part of my body literally the dead central spot on my forehead is it that's it well then like a tiny like a couple tiny constellation once which is what happens you know but um as you're experiencing now i'm sure but um i had

just like two or three days in a row i get migraine sometimes but two or three days in a row I woke up with, like, what I would consider at the time, I thought, just the worst migraines of my life. Usually, extended migraine, boom, gone after two hours max, all day. Just not even waning in pain whatsoever. And I was like, I have a brain tumor. Like, this is bad. This is cluster headache. Something's going on, you know?

You can get sick to. You can get sick too. A lot of people get sick too with their shingles. And I definitely felt nauseous, all the things you do when you get a migraine. so then on the third day another big big headache wasn't as bad the headache but i had this like not like a is that a pimple but yeah like the half of a golf ball yeah swelling weird in the center of my forehead and i was like oh okay well that is the tumor the tumor's coming out to play yeah exactly uh but then i it happened it all happened very fast after that where it became

clear. I went to the doctor. The doctor literally walked in, looked at me, and said, oh, that's shingles. Wow. And it wasn't even, there was no sore, there was no, there was no anything, there was no scab. I mean, you don't get a sore, you just get scabs. I don't know. Dude, that's so interesting. My doc goes, I, I texted him, you know, because I took a picture of I texted him. And he calls me immediately. And he says, so do you think it is? the worst doctor and I said spitballing you know

and I said uh shingles and he said yeah really and I said he said I like to ask my patients what they think first

did you find them right then no I just what if you said like you know is HIV? Yeah full blown he said yes I just don't know

yeah it was so funny but anyway that he knows more than his patients? Yeah. He's like John Lovitz. Yeah, that's what it is. He said it.

You said it, he googled it, saw pictures and said, yeah, yeah, no, that's right. What do you think it is? Shingles. Hold, please. Yeah, so it's terrible, dude. And you have it on my back and my chest, a little bit on my chest.

And it popped up on my chest later. So now my chest is like, my back, now it just feels like regular pain. Yeah. Not nerve pain. Yeah. My chest has still got that nerve pain crap going on. The pain, luckily, didn't last long for me once the migraine stopped.

And like, what's weird is that, and this is the hardest part to explain, it doesn't go, and tell me if this was like, it doesn't, it didn't for me. It didn't go from a golf, it ended up being the size of a golf ball under my skin. It didn't go from wound to scab. it went from golf ball to scab it was covered the entire time like it wasn't ever an open oh right yeah yeah yeah yeah started weird yeah that makes no sense i know it's pretty weird they just do it real quick when you're sleeping they go like this oh should we tell the people what the shingles is so they so they even know what we're talking about they have chicken fox it's chicken pox and if you've ever had it you it stays in you literally forever and during times of great duress or when you get older

immunocomino immunocomized they go like this they go like this oh you need money go yeah exactly you guys not talking to you deeper deeper issues you your best friend signed yeah that's what they do that what sucks dude i'm already stressed come on chicken pox Don't be shingles. I'm already stressed. That's why people say shit like stress is the number one killer. They don't mean literally. They mean stress wears your body down.

Makes every system much more vulnerable. Yeah. And then you're likely to get to file for. It's not like this. You got to file for bankruptcy. What? Oh! Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. It's like this. You got to file for bankruptcy. What? Really? No, but oh, fuck. Okay. Click.

Oh, man. Years. years years years years well a couple years sometimes a clock a bird oh man what is this mouth cancer do you leave a love it anyway yeah that's exactly how it works so yeah um but yeah if you don't if you've never had chicken pox. Well, I don't even remember. I've been immunized for chicken pox. There is a shingles vaccine.

I know. And it's similar to the COVID vaccine where you can still get shingles. Right. But you can't get it bad. It's similar to the COVID vaccine where it's a sham and the government is trying to track you and they implement a tracking device in you and they can shut you down. Or if you can't shut you down. So, so hard not to say more about Arifka, Jr., but I'm not going to do that on the show. Rufka.

So, Rufkajur. Rufkager, that's kind of cool. Oh, man. Dude, wow, I just saw that coffee that you have, which is from Alfred's. Yeah. And I imagined being at Alfred's. Okay. And it produced such a pleasant feeling inside me.

You'd like being at Alvards? I didn't know that. I don't know if I'd even say that. I just sitting at a coffee. Like sometimes I'm doing something and I'll just go, oh, tonight, dude, I'm going to watch TV. And I go, and my, literally my psyche goes. Oh. And I'm just like so excited for it.

And do you, this is my core question here. Do you think I don't know you fuck my wife? Do you put like do you hold off a little bit longer so you have something to look forward to or are you first chance you get you watch TV? Oh no first chance I get okay. I used to be like that too. I've changed recently. Why? I'll decide the thing that I'm most looking forward to.

You know why? Because I think I actually think not the key, but one of the most important ways at least for me to remain happy and happy. whatever that means, is to always have something to look forward to, even if it's that stupid. Yeah, no, that is very, I mean, I, it's almost like, look, getting sick is worse than being sick and having something to look forward to is better than actually doing it sometimes, you know? Sure, yeah, that's true. But yeah, it's, it's the anticipation. Yeah, I know, super weird, which means, I did the last night, my buddy sent me a video of James Woods, who I love. like to watch more than anyone in interviews or just in movies.

And you have similar beliefs. And, and I was like, I want to watch this so bad. Mm-hmm. But I'm going to do it tonight. So I have something to look forward to. That's cool. That's how much I like James was. Yeah.

No, I delay ratification so much anyway that I don't, I would never do that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I can relate. Yeah. Yeah. Not like I grew up. I'm just saying.

No, I know. Yeah. You're just saying I'm immature. Okay. I'm more mature. I'm more mature. Yeah. Well, when you become an adult.

that and shingles i went to before you but anyway um all right you want to start sure okay let's start i feel like every third call somebody is saying i'm just going to get right into it well congratulations on not getting right into it yeah you don't have to preface you're going to get right into it and just got to do i agree thoughts i mean that's quite don't do that you know what it is what is that thing you probably know what i'm talking about uh being gay is gotcha smoking a dude in an alleyway gotcha is it called the millennial breath or the millennial pause the millennial pause mm-hmm it's like that kind it is like that it's like a version of that where millennials pause before like they'll start the selfie video the way and then they'll start

yeah and anyone younger than them is like why are you wait like i've already switched to me weird mm-hmm um but yeah obviously you don't need to say i'll get right into it because the whole point of the show is to start the video and be getting right into it dude now that being said does it bother me goose eggs dude i can't tell you're doing how much that doesn't bother me that's just how how people talk just like colloquially doesn't bother me like whatever i'm going to get right into it okay that's how people talk who cares it's half a second yeah um i don't but you're right of course the guy's right yeah yeah he's right i was thinking about um how i worked on my back yesterday you were thinking about that even after you did it

how much longer after you did it were you thinking about it why i did he yesterday and i'm still thinking about it i mean so you didn't stop thinking about it i don't understand so he's he worked as such a simpleton such a simpleton doesn't understand all honesty that is i don't know if something easier to understand i worked out my back yesterday hey one i don't understand no what i'm saying is i don't understand how you could think about how you worked out oh oh you know him though yeah but so i so now you understand i i obsess about everything well i think i got shingles whatever new thing he's on which is right now working out and eating his fucking macros dude he fucking can't not think about every second

holy shit my arm looks massive okay hey we got a still frame looks maxing it does actually yeah I'm a fucking massive dude because I don't fuck around to gym dude a guy complimented me fucking gay dude

I mean just slowly not even about the gym anymore just turning into a gay man i fucked this dude and i can't stop thinking about it no i i i did my back yesterday yes so what no so what dude i got great question i got in touch with a guy named michael gay only gay dude like what's happening here who's my uh kind of boyfriend i he's like my what do you call it um uh i look up to him what do you call that person mentor No, well, no.

Role model? He's my workout. InSpo. Yeah, I guess. He's your North Star. He's where you want to be. Yeah, he's my workout. I mean, I gave you so much.

Yeah, no, but it's none of those other words I'm thinking of. But anyway, he, um, we've been talking and he told me what to do and I did it. And that's probably why my arm looks all fucking beefed up right now, dude. Gross. Anyway, I ate a whole pint of ice cream last night. I caved. I fucked up, dude. A whole pint of ice cream.

ice cream, chocolate ice cream, because my fucking assistant bought ice cream just for the fuck of it, dude. And it's in my freezer. Whoa. And so I ate it, and I felt bad after that. And I fucking still

watched the seventh episode of Pluribus. The whole time I was thinking about how I ate the ice cream. I love that show, by the way. That's one of my favorite shows in a long time. Anyway, you know her right yeah she's a sweetheart i mean i barely she's great in it too is she yeah i only saw the racy horn yeah she seemed really good but no she's in better call sol like a

i know i got to watch that uh anyway so so i you know i don't know a little of me you know there go there's a little of me so i don't know if you want that right now or not well it didn't matter we were going to get it no matter what because all you ever do is talk about working out so it's all you ever talk about no boring guy in the planet um well but i was thinking about that and i also i'm a good storyteller so it doesn't matter i i it's not just about working out i could tell you story about something else but i don't want no no but you but you only tell a story it's about working out now yeah well that's more if i was going to write about i want to write a book about working out i want the character to be working out a lot in it

american psycho i want the character to be working out a lot in it and thinking of about working out a lot in it. It's going to be such a fucking dope book. And returning videotapes. No, no, no, no. It's not going to be about American Psycho. It's not like that. Oh, you're being serious.

Yeah. You want to write a book about a guy who works out a lot? Oh, yeah. Oh, dude, you were going to write erotica for women. For gay men. No, but I want it to, to, I mean, well, first of all, let's be clear about this. I can tell the difference between when he's fucking totally bullshit and when he's actually thought about it before.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I was heavily thinking about it. Proceed. I just want to write a book and I haven't thought about everything yet, but one of the parts, main parts is that he keeps going. He keeps working out. Yeah. I mean, just like not all that is is extension of you things about you working out, dude. That's not even an idea for a book. Nothing about that is an idea. But I mean, it would be cool if he like keeps seeing women, but he's like, I absolutely do not fuck them. And he's just like. So he's gay?

No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, he's not gay. He just goes. Is he like a monk who's buff? No, no, no. He's just like super regimented and like I would never let them take my energy like that, maybe. A fucking insult. Okay.

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Okay. I just need to know if you have any thoughts on this. Anytime I call a business, big or small, and they have an automated answering machine, it always tells you that the fucking, it says, listen carefully because the menu options have changed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why is it every fucking business you call? It says, listen carefully. The options have changed. First of all, who are they letting know?

Who has memorized the menu options for these businesses? and second, why the fuck are they changing them so much? That is a fucking great point. I don't understand this. It's been bothering me all day. Yeah. Anyways, I love you guys. I'll submit that other one later.

Listen carefully because the menu has changed. Yeah, who, honestly, who the fuck calls a business and then calls a business in a month? That would, and then it would be like, it's like you call a business. If you're going to call business again, you call them right. away the next day you go hey by the way that thing isn't happening and the menu didn't change yet so if if it did change and then you call a year later about something else you're not going to remember you got to be like i go this in the menu anyway what do you think this business is so fucking cocksure and conceded that you they think that you're always on their mind fuck that

dude yeah yeah i mean i don't have much it's so stupid i don't have much to add don't even alert me Don't even alert me that you've changed your Ben. That's what my point was going to be. Just drop the listen carefully. Like, hey, I'm calling you. I have a reason to call you. There's something on my mind that I want from your business. You don't need to remind me to listen carefully to the fucking information that's about to go into my ears, whether it's from a person or a machine.

I'm like, you're not just going to the whole fucking time. Christian Bell. You're going to fucking. Oh, good for you. you're gonna fucking just listen because that's what ears do when you make a fucking phone call. Yeah, or you're just gonna go person, person, person,

I want a person, that's what I do. Yeah, I've done that before. Fuck them. Yeah, I think maybe one time in my life there was something that I was doing on the phone repeatedly and I figured out that if I, as soon as it picks up, right, I could just go like three, two, two, four.

And then I'm into the person that I want to talk to. Yeah. It was like one time in 40 years. Yeah, it's not worth it. It's a numbers game. We do this because Chris Mocko did this thing one time. But listen carefully.

The menu items have changed. But the percentage of people. We come over and jerk you off. Oh, boop. Oh, too late it changed. We're coming. We're on our way. Ding dong.

Hello. I, no, please. Oh, yeah. God damn it. I just needed help with my air conditioning. The other problem is the weirdest company ever to buy. They come up in their uniform. You would hit the buttons.

before they even said, listen carefully. Yes, very good point. And you'd hit it before they even said fucking the thing. Very good point. And what's the worst that could happen? Listen, what's the worst that could happen? Listen carefully, the menu about how to say, oh, press one, we kill your whole family. Oh, oh.

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Dik, digg. Oh, mommy daddy. Oh no. Oh, oh, oh, oh, dude.

Jesus. I just needed a help with my air conditioning. The most varied service of all time, dude. They kill your family or fix your HVAC. Dude, it's so stupid, dude. So we agree, yeah. We, you know. We find you on vacation and shit on you.

We're service. it takes so long with the with the with the with the with the with the with the air conditioning stuff it takes so long customs we cost so much just because of the travel time and the travel there customs is my seven grand just to get shit on what you're here to soda you know i'm here for work but yeah okay rent hurt at hurts yeah yeah just a small phone one was fine yeah i don't need a big one at the resort looking for the family oh there they are

at the pool which one of you which one of these brett oh shit you're Brett English you hit one you hit one

it's because you hit one but shit in his ass walking away The menu changed Using a towel At the pool It's because the menu Changed

He's only saying that Because he's sitting in the horror on the guy's face Because he thinks he ordered it That's why we didn't come fix your air conditioning too That was number two That's a really For fuck sake man I'm in the pool

Oh Shit dude Oh fuck man That's a really dumb bit that I'm laughing really hard Wow Fucking shit Sometimes that happens. Usually happens late in the show.

Yeah, that's a late in the show bit. This is the first half in the show. Fucking shit. All right. I'm crying. Let's go. Let's keep going. All right.

Hi, Chris. Hi, Matt. So last time you were talking about how Gingis tend to skip over videos that are like three minutes long or something. Oh, yeah. So since I'm Gen Z 25. Got to keep my eyes. I have cousins that are younger, like 18 and 20. So I asked them, I have my own opinion on it.

Yeah. Pause it? Why do they do it? Nothing in my life has been more boring than this. Why is it boring? He's specifically referencing something. I don't know. Do you know the way he's saying it, I'm saying.

Oh, okay. Okay, so keep going. It just sounds very solemn and serious to me, so I'm very interested, yeah. Okay. Turns out they are just too overwhelmed by it. because there's too many things to watch, there's too many things to listen. Is he dying?

And I don't know when you all started on the internet, but I started in high school. But some of these kids, they have been on the internet since middle school or even elementary school, which is wild to think about it. And that's why I think. They can be boreded. I mean,

I think about this. Hey, hey. I just died right after. Do I get to go to heaven? No, you're too boring. What the fuck did he say? You really? Yes.

Okay, I'll tell you exactly what he said. Please, he was... Can I come in? fucking pearly gates please because saint peter please i understand like he's christian you know like this guy's christian bong sticking in the fucking daggagagagagaggagg in hell ouch he's got the right temperament for hell it's so so even you know it's so hot yeah in here

fucking christ i don't know what he said is that hitler oh my god gangis khan oh my god um Stalin wow it's actually jangelo somebody corrects him it's actually jangus he is 25 he is Gen Z he talked he has cause I think he said cousins that are between the ages of 18 and 20 and because of the my rant the other episode yeah the very recent episode might have been the last episode where I was like going off on people who like can't watch 10 seconds of a three minute video even uh-huh he was curious about that and asked his cousins exactly what I was talking about.

Sure. And they didn't pay attention. Their answer was not that it's too long. Their answer was that it's, and I don't know how we got this out of them, this is very interesting, that it's overwhelming to commit three minutes

when you could commit three minutes to anything else that's also out there. That's extremely interesting to me. as an alternative to them just having no patience. It's not like they can't dedicate three minutes because they can. They listen to podcasts. They watch movies. Like they can do it.

They watch entire fucking Netflix series. But like it they need to be feel convinced enough apparently according to this guy that it's, it's not going to contribute to their overwhelm or they need to know it's worth their time because they're already overwhelmed by the amount of shit. shit content that they could be putting into their minds i wonder if that's like very specific to his family or whatever or if that's uh yeah i wonder that i mean that it's probably i mean it's both what i was saying and what he was saying i think yeah yeah yeah you know it's like they have less patience but it's also because it's like dude i mean i was thinking about this the other

day i'm probably i mean not me specifically only but people my age and within maybe five years give or take either way like that is the last generation that will remember what it was like before the internet and that's just dial up yeah like kids now are going to be like what do you mean dial up yeah what do you mean like physical media yeah what do you mean by any of this stuff well i was yeah like they're just they just grow up but it's super fast and there's so much of it when we grew up the only things you could even watch were video cassettes you already had physically in your presence a VHS player or whatever was on channel two three four seven nine or eleven or thirteen eventually that was it that was it

Jesus that's that's like a that's like the most remarkable shift in history yeah and and and I mean these kids that he's describing if they're 18 and 20 they were born I mean they came of age when it was already at the very least very very very fast internet i mean you everything was available to them yeah exactly uh almost immediately like it's really wild to think about yeah i was watching a movie the other day and i was like you know when you watch well you know what first of all you know when you watch a movie and it like takes place in the 1800s and there's like carriages and shit and you're like and then like there's no phones yeah yeah okay and you're like oh shit man it was different

back then uh i was watching a movie that took place in like 85 87 or something you know and they just had big phones and shit that they were dialing and i'm like what the fuck would calvin and billy think those things are even it's so different yeah you know yeah no i know i mean it's crazy what's really crazy is like what you were saying about looking at 1800s and characters and shit for a minute there's just a little bit boring but like bear with me it's okay we had enough excitement so far. There was like a period of my life where I was like obsessed with like the founding fathers and like everything they wrote.

Okay. And Aaron like I read Aaron Burr's letters between him and his daughter. Okay. And it was no, nothing could have made it more evident how different life was. Really? Than reading personal correspondences between people back then. Like knowing the letter wasn't going to get to the person for months. That was a text message. Yeah.

like it's just like it's it's you can't even you can't even come close to wrapping your mind around it sup yeah there's none of that it's just like everything and it's florid language and it's everything's misspelled because nobody knew how to spell shit back then because everybody's dumb as fuck yeah and but it was like 18 pages long my beloved daughter everything that happened in the last like nine months you know oh if only what's up worst message ever what's been going on

I mean worst what do you call those things bird carrier what do you call those things carrier pigeons it's not stork but the babies yeah carry your pigeons

that's what I was doing I know I was trying to think of the term I mean you up you up gets their fucking eight months later yeah she's already married As kids Met a new person

Has kids Oh fuck I got your carrier pigeon So late Sorry I didn't check my carrier pigeon I left you on red You didn't check your carrier pigeon For three years

Bullshit No it didn't come for three years You know the network I want to go back to the 90s Like bad I think that's a common thing I'm hearing a lot Well yeah but also

Kids are gonna say I wish we could go back to 2025. Dude. When we were kids, though, there was both a feeling of, wow, the 90s or the shit. And people were still doing that about the 60s and 70s. Yeah. But I don't know how many people are thinking now is the shit. I'm saying I don't know.

Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't hear that because of obviously I'm not. Yeah. I haven't had like seven. Yeah. But I don't know. I don't get that sense that like, I remember like, just like, like, like, like, like, learning about pearl jamming shit and being like, this is the, or Nirvana, and being like,

this is like the coolest time to be alive. Yeah. You know what I mean? Watching Pulp Fiction just being like, what is like, this is fucking so sick. Well, yeah. I don't get that vibe. Well, yeah. So I saw something the other day where it was like the 90s was the best time because technology

was good enough, but it wasn't, you know, inundating us. And, you know, of course I read that online. But like, you know, I. like the Blair Witch project when the VHS was being passed around and the excitement of that and the oh my God, what is this and putting it into, like that doesn't exist anymore.

You know, if there's an exciting thing that you don't know about, you can see it immediately now. You know, you get the link. So, you know, I mean, there's other exciting things but I don't, I don't know. Yeah, it's just weird. It's so different.

Also, we can edit it here because we've been going on for a while, Like, you could kind of predict what things would be like in five years in 1995 or even 2005. Now you try to even look five years ahead, like for yourself, for your children or your family, whatever. You have no. Yeah. I mean, it could literally be like, I'm not going to go. I'll send my representative.

You have no idea what it's, like it could be the earth could move under our feet by so much that people in med school now by the, by the middle of it might be just like, Oh, the thing I'm pursuing is dead. It's dead and gone. Mm. You know, it's such a weird time, dude. Money might be gone. What if we started a city called... So high.

Here we go. So hot. There we go. No, we get, yeah, buy a bunch of land, and it's called the 90s. Okay. And everything... The city's called the 90s. I mean, no, I'm in so far.

Yeah. But that's a hilarity. And you can imagine what I'm going to say next. Yeah. Everything has to be the 90s. And so it's just, you enter it. And it's, and it is that for all intents and purposes in the 90s. You can exit it and be in the real world, obviously.

The most mobile phone is a car phone. Right, right, right. Or Nokia, remember those? No, yeah, you can do Nokia. Or beepers, maybe, yeah. Yeah, okay. And then every car, like, there's no cars that can be past the 90s, 99. You know what?

I bet things like that, whether it's exactly that or not, I think they want to. Things like that are going to start cropping up more and more. 90s land, like it's Disney. But like 90sville. like you live there you don't visit oh yeah yeah yeah well it i mean it definitely will want whoever hits the button will have to go back a little bit of you know hits the button but the fucking nuclear we have to go back a little bit after that you know i mean can't stuff like why did you bring nuclear holocaust into this well because that's what i'm saying is why did you know why did

you think the button world war three will be fought with nuclear bombs and war war war four would be fought with sticks and stones and i would have said that if even if i didn't hear Who said that that you heard it from? I think it was Einstein that, that quoted that. But somebody big said that. And then I would have said that even if I didn't hear them say that. And I would have been credited it as like a genius. But I heard it from him.

And I was like, I fucking already probably almost thought something like that. But I just didn't say it. Was it in the movie? I highly disagree that World War III will be fought with nuclear bombs. Highly disagree. Yeah, I mean, we've, well, it's mutually insured destruction. Nobody wants that. Vladimir Putin doesn't want.

that he wants to rule and live until he's 150 jing ping doesn't want that he wants to rule and live till he's 150 i don't don't don't want that he wants to live to lose 150 well well i don't know what the actual quote was but it was something like that something about it and then war war four is fought with sticks and stones and now you're backtracking but but that's the end of it and then when i when i heard that i go like this fuck i i i almost thought of that almost you know like in the hypothetical you didn't actually quote the amount of quotes i almost thought of her fuck is fucking insane i mean the dumbest fuck in the world on wikiquote dot com all the time you know oh i almost thought of that i swear scrolling

oh somebody says something i hear it i go oh fuck i could have thought of that damn it mark twain you know no no no no no oh reading all right let's do another one what's up lads it's me again. I don't know if you remember me. I'm the guy that asked about kicking it to a girl who's in the car next to you. Oh, yeah, yes. Just quickly, Chris

said, oh, he looks like the kind of guy that listens to a song he doesn't like and goes, but I see where they were going with it. And the funny thing about that is that I am an audio engineer and have been for 20 years. So he knows people. Good, good. Anyway.

He doesn't know people, but good time. I do. I have a new question for you. And that is, The rocky, weird world of, should you, and if so, how should you kick it to a girl that you work with? Yeah, a rocky now, yeah. Won't add necessary, and won't add any details. Let's just leave it a blank slate. Last thing. How bitch is it to be pushing a shopping cart in the grocery store, and then you go over those little.

bumps and you're kind of like oh oh yeah yeah and you have to just pretend like it's all good okay yeah bye guys i mean that actually is pretty bit it could be got you could get away with that without being bitch because when he said it resonated with me i've been there before and you're and you know what it does it shakes your cheeks and you feel like your cheeks are jiggling and that's always that's no matter what yeah if you're on something or do participating in any activity that makes your cheeks cheek shake Mm-hmm. It's bitch from Saudi Arabia. That makes your sheiks.

Bitch? Yeah, I do. I, I, I, it's crazy how in line we, we know what bitch is. Yeah. It's hammered down, yeah. I mean, it's, I know you went on your way to not give details, but it is so context dependent. Like, if you work in an office. Yeah.

And there is a woman, a cubicle or two away from you, you don't what what was the term he used kick it kick kick it kick it at her kick it to her yeah kick it on her kick it in her kick her you don't kick her in any way because fired and because inappropriate and because like yeah just there's so many other women in the world like relax everybody that sucks though because that's how you meet people I know but but look I'm not saying if it's like whatever a work event right

different story but like at work you do not do these things but if your job is like I don't know fucking in a tertiary way involved with her

then that's different like if you don't see her every day and you're not going to fucking scare her potentially by being around her all the time after she here's the thing you don't

ever want to you don't you even forgetting about her for a second you don't want to put a woman in a position that makes her feel like she has to say yes to a date to you with you like that's not good for you because it's going to suck it's going to end up bad for you no matter what and when you're in a situation some work situations like a woman is awkward and uncomfortable and probably feel she has like she has to say yes and that's not good for you in the long run it's just going to end up a waste of fucking time anyway and you're going to get fired and everything's going to fucking suck and you don't want that but if it's the kind of job where it's like way looser than that then just like what kind of job i don't know i'm trying to think of wait or waitress like uh yeah i guess yeah something like a barton i don't know yeah yeah something like way more casual than like the typical workspace scenario i guess is what i'm thinking of uh which is common now you know you know uh but I would assume if you're an audio engineer, it will be tricky. But, well, then you have jobs, right?

You could wait till it's done. Exactly. Jobs with beginnings and ends, which is what's important. You wait to the jobs. Oh, you're an audio engineer with the job's over. Say something to her. Then that's that. Yeah.

Or just continue the conversation and like see what's up. You don't need to be like, hey, the job's over. Want to go out? You don't have to be a fucking idiot about it. But like, there's a number of ways to go about it in that. and that's that's actually a good scenario that's why yeah yeah a lot of actors end up together people that work together or movies end up together because it's like they don't necessarily end up during the shoot together but it's like you bond you get to know each other than afterwards

it's like hey right you know right but your work it's not as bad as a gym or anything but like well no it's worse in a way you want to make sure you don't get fired you want to make sure you don't make her uncomfortable and you want to make sure you don't waste your own time. And if those three are minimized in your particular situation at work, then kick her in on at inside. So fucking confusing. Whatever you said. Yeah, I don't know. I think that you should yeah, it's a tricky thing. But but also a gym is not worse than at work because at work you get fired and in gym you're just like annoying guy. I mean for the I think for the woman. like the woman is more annoyed at the gym than anywhere else.

Yeah, maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm more likely to say no. Yeah. Than anywhere else. Yeah. But, but yeah, no, of course. That stakes are way higher work for you personally, yeah.

Which is, I think, probably the number one consideration. Yeah. But if you're an audio engineer, yeah, your job ends. She's just a person in the world after that. Send her a CD with a, check this audio. Hey, want to go out some time. Yeah. So one, one way.

I guess you can try that send her a link well flash drive is a better idea no you don't know just send her a fucking email or a link send her a link and if she clicks it and then send her it she says no send her another link where it's a fake Netflix page and then you sign into it you get her passwords and then you fuck her life up

all right no don't do that just different yeah again a little bit different a different direction than I was going but yeah I think you want to minimize the life fucking uppage yeah right yeah i mean pretty much honestly that's good for everything yeah but in this instance

it's it's potentially explosive i guess in certain settings so avoid the explosion yeah avoid the explosion okay another one what's up chris and matt um i was on an earlier episode and i was talking about taking the bar exam and comparing myself to my friends oh yeah and i just wanted to update and say that I passed. Oh. And I got a job. Whoa. And I moved to Montana.

Jeez. Wow. Friends passed. Life's good. Things are good. Whatever. Good for you. But now that I'm employed and salaried, um, I just have this feminine urge to, like, settle down.

You know what I mean? And not with a man. I mean, like, I think I want to get a dog. That's not settling down, man. When is a good time to get a dog? There's always been something that doesn't. sit right about having a dog in an apartment I feel like a dog

needs to have a dog but also at the same time Bozeman is like really pet friendly so I know that I could get help and have plenty of resources if I wanted to get a dog but I just I don't know I don't know if I'm ready any help would be great

Well yeah if you get a dog get a small dog Get a dog Yeah if you have any remote inclination to settle down and like Don't know what that the architecture of that might even remotely look like that is a good first step uh maybe even get a dog that isn't a puppy uh right and then also if you're worried about your dog in your apartment all day have a their dog walkers in bozeman bozeman's a city not in the middle of nowhere uh i'll never

been yeah it's a small city in montana but it's where the like the main airport is yeah and um yeah i get a dog just don't get a fucking you know uh uh german shepherd a puppy great dane yeah uh that would fuck your whole life like uh from beginning to end a medium or small dog and see what's up and don't just be like oh i don't like it and give it back you get it you keep it don't be one of those motherfuckers she wouldn't it just didn't work out and bring it back this is not a fucking purse got to have an ease you want a dog and we all know it and you know it and you want to test the limits of what settling down means to you. So see what's up with the DOGs out there.

Google have an ease. Look how cute they are. Look at that fucking third one. Yeah, they're really, really, really cute, huh? I don't think there's a cuter dog. I don't think. Then I have an ease. And of course, I guess I'm biased.

I had one. You had one, yeah. What's the, that one. I mean, dude, that's crazy cute. Yeah. I mean, if you're just talking pure objective cuteness, that's an adult one, too. That one's hilarious looking. They're pretty cute.

Yeah. What are the two puppies up in the right? Those are real? No. Those are real? That's how Sam looked on the left. Wow. That's just nuts, bro.

They look like dolls. But then they fuck them up when they let the hair out all the way on the left. They fuck them. That's, come on. That's, that's. You get to see the cut. you're like a verbo or whatever the fuck cousin it the covering the cleaning up the floor you're you're an actual mop yeah oh my god dude that's crazy like dude when you see dog you know how

they say wolves evolved into dogs so they could be that's how you go oh my god i got to take care of this motherfucker and then they eat all your food you know how wolves really adapted into dogs yeah that's not how how once humans became a or agriculturally capable 12,000 years ago or 1,200, I mean 12,000 years ago. They could use irrigation. They could be nomadic. They could stay places for certain periods of time longer than just constantly moving. Wolves would learn, obviously, that the detritus of things to eat would end up on the interim of where people were.

This is what I was saying. This is what I do. Yeah. So they'd have to get cute so they could get food. Yeah, but it wasn't not, it wasn't being cute. is being useful useful the dog the wolves became useful to them the people began began you began using the dogs right because the dogs became felt safe around the people right then the wolves started working for the people and those ones were adapted to be well but eventually became

dogs dogs are exist so that they could work originally so they could work for people to do things that people didn't want to do. Like hunt, like a dog's, like a rat terrier exists to kill rats on farms. It was bred to do that. I mean, that's way down the line from wolves. Imagine the first guy that was like, all right. Let's try this guy.

Maybe we can turn in. Ah! Just fucking. Had no fingers ever. Can't fall asleep. Can you just get the rats? The cute thing is real, but it's different than what Chris is saying.

What do you say? I can't hear you. No, it's people were partial to the cute ones just because, well, instead of coming up and be like, there's that episode of Cosmos where they just talked about now, of course, yeah. No, no, no, but back then. But there were no cute ones back then. I know.

There were no cute wolves. I know. With a little kerchief on it. They had to learn how to do it. They became useful first, not cute, is my point. How do you make a wolf useful if it's going to be fucking eating your food and biting you all the time? You have food that they need and want so that that is their incentive to do what you want them to do. It's just like any other thing.

Cuteness came later. What? Cuteness did come later, yeah. Well, it had to. Yeah. It had to have come later. Just like it did in humans, though. Yeah.

Yeah. Babies are cute so that we don't smash them against rocks when they go, ah! And you want to fucking smash their head against rocks. Okay, you know. That's really why. Well, yeah, but the way you doubled down and said it twice in one sentence is crazy. It's crazy hearing a baby scream. I mean, come on.

What? Yeah. You're like biologically wired to want to smash his head against her off. You know, third time. Set it, brought it home. All right. Three times is enough. A little more.

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I play drums I play keyboards And I want to release my songs to the world But I'm self-conscious of my voice I also love board games And I took the chance this year To self-publish my own game Oh wow

Island GameCrafter.com And I want to tip the chance with music So any advice is appreciated Thank you for the show Thanks How interesting What's the game? call on the website

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this year to self-publish my own game skip the island gamecrafter.com skip the island game crafter.com cool um

dude how many singers even I don't even know your taste right how many singers of music that you like don't like actually have

objectively not good voices I would say not most of them but definitely some of them because a lot of what people like in music isn't necessarily what they're not looking for a good voice the modern lovers what's that guy's name

Bob Dylan so I mean you could say it's a cool voice but that's not a good voice like a good voice is not essential for people to like your music i mean is that true in dude if that were true then there would be way just a way different musical landscape right now bob dillon fucking there's so many yeah but i'm even thinking about like actual singers like now you can just auditing and shit out of stuff no i know i know yeah no totally simon i mean he had a good voice but yeah simon's got a good voice yeah but yeah i guess you're

right but the there are bob Dylan is the is the ultimate example which is like there's nobody that in a vacuum, not knowing who Bob Dylan was, would hear Bob Dylan's voice and be like, that's a good singing voice. In fact, you only think the opposite. But it's because with his music and his vibe and everything else that's going into his music that he's arguably the most legendary musical figure in 20th century history, modern history. So fuck it, dude. Also, you're going to die dude we could die not releasing your music like why would you why would you do that why would you even risk that you have to release your music what is being a lot like it's getting to existential but like what is even being here if you're not going to do

the thing that costs it costs you nothing now too just put it out there dude what if it's the fucking banger of what's it called soundcloud I will what if it's the bangor SoundCloud of 2026. You don't even know. Yeah, that's true. AI artists get like, you know, like six million listens a month or whatever. Like, that could be you. If he can, you know, this is crazy. He made a ball of a game. Yeah, that is crazy.

Escape the Island. What kind of a person makes a game? Aitn Up. Escape the Island, a card game by Zane Christian. Cool name. Be the first player to escape a desert island by collecting all five resources. what kind of mind thinks of this you know it's really interesting I'm into it but he had it made and all that's why I'm into it I mean how many people think a shit like this

and don't do it here's the thing if you're if you're this kind of person what's the hold up with the fucking yeah true music it's because I get you're insecure about it I understand and I understand being insecure about your creative output I completely relate but like

the way over that is just very simply what is the alternative it's like the categorical imperative it's like if everyone in your situation was like uh i'm actually not going to do it then we would have so much less amazing music arguably no music like you need to be on the other side of that and you need to say yes i'm going to make my music and i'm put out in the world if it gets two listens what you're really worried about is is is not finding success but like dude i mean that is just you don't have success now that's just the world right but trying and then not not another right different than not trying at all i'm just saying the outcome is the fucking same it's true uh but all yeah you're gonna die

release the music uh it's it's i i see no other way you're gonna just think about the rest of your light like come on yeah yeah you got to do it I hope his musical artist name is also Zane Christian. Because then you got a leg up. Zane is a crazy. Zane is wild. It's a, it's,

I don't like that name. Oh, fuck off, dude. What do you mean? Why? Well, I don't like any name that's like,

Aine. Okay. But if you're going to pick one. What, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Name another one. Dane. Okay. Uh, uh, if you're going to pick one, they'll pick Wayne.

But. I mean, what a rule book. There's also Kane. Kane is, yeah. I just, I don't like to, it's like, it's one of those names where it's like, ah, we know names, but we're going to do a little different. No, it isn't, dude. Really?

Kane is one of the oldest names. Kane is, yeah. Dwayne, these are all old school, like, Dwayne. No. Working class names. Dane is newer, I guess. Zane is old, though. It is like old West shit.

Yeah. Oh, okay. But that's not your point. Anyway, you just don't like the name. Zane is kind of like, who do you think you are? No, well, he didn't have a fucking board game. If he did, he picked a cool one.

You're a singer, bro? I think you are a board game maker. I said that already. You did? Yeah. I didn't, I wasn't listening to you. Well, that's okay. I appreciate you listening to Lifeline, everybody else.

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