Lifeline - 226. Aye Monday

Episode Date: August 23, 2026

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What's up, dude? Hey, how's it going, man? Good, I mean, long time to see. Learning English. In a cool school. I go to a cool school. Dude, why are you acting like you don't know me? Like, you haven't seen me in a long time.

That's called acting. Worst acting teacher. Now that is called acting. Hi, hello, ma'adies, how are you? Welcome to me acting class. Now that. That was incredible. Is acting.

Now, that's what we're going to learn here. How to play Pirates, how to play a bunch of different stuff. Hello. Who's that? Sherlock Holmes. Now that is also acting. There's a bunch of different, Oh, can I borrow some sugar?

That's a woman. Anyone? A British woman. Okay. So there's a bunch of acting roles that you're going to learn about here. Do you have a couple more up your sleeve? Well, yes, but I don't want to blow my load. Do two more?

Two more. Oh, no. Oh my god, do animals? Half monkey, half guy. Oh my gosh. So that's how we're going to do it here at this acting class. That's not even a thing. Yeah, well.

Sci-Fi. But that's sci-fi. We learned sci-fi acting too. Meep. Aliens? Well, yes. Crazy. Or a robot.

So either sci-fi. But anyway, we're going to get started. So it's $500 up front. It's all, yeah. It's cool. You think you'd be a good acting coach? No. I don't have the patience for it, no.

You're bad, you're out. That would be me. I mean, that's a lot of acting coaches. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, true. I think it's such dicks, you know? No, acting coach, I don't know. I think you can either do it or you can't. You can't get better at it.

But, like, if you can't do it, you just can't do it. Can act? Yeah. It's not like a thing. I think acting classes are for people who are good who, like, want to keep training and getting better. Yeah. But there are people out there.

who are being bilked that are like yane shit no no no yeah yeah but they're not gonna stop taking their money yeah i guess it sucks but they'll be assholes to everybody though i mean i've been in those acting classes and there are people that are the some of the teachers are just like as if they're fucking lawrence olivier dude like you are i'm sorry who are you yeah you're just some fucking dude like you're and you're like yelling at someone for the for their performance in the Seagull? Like, what is happening here? You're on Melrose, you know? Yeah. Well, in some building you rent. You're saying an acting teacher. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, every acting teacher in L.A., yeah. Yeah, I've never understood acting teachers. It's very strange. I mean, at like a, like, you know, acting school,

it's like a thing where if it's like Player Horizons or like Strasbourg, if you're doing a certain kind of thing and like you're going through the method that they go through and like you're learning the steps and learning the certain kind of craft in a certain kind of way that's different. But if you just go once a week

to acting class and like bring your sides from fucking two and a half men part seven and it's just like what is this? Two and a half men part seven would be fucking amazing Jesus Christ. Probably coming. It's coming.

And John Cry would still be in it. And so, but no, about that is it is good though when actors get together and like do you know work on stuff I think what do you say like you know I hate saying hone your craft but like you know if you're like hey let's get together let's do some scenes I think that's yeah that's not acting class though no that's like it's like working out

working out yeah it's like working a muscle yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I do hamlet really well really yeah so see that's a shock to me because I would think probably hamlet would be one of your worst things that you do. I'm full of surprises. Right. And I'm not even saying that you're not, just in acting, I would think Hamlet would probably be,

I would say the top worst one that you could probably do. You would guess that my worst performance that I could give would be Hamlet. Interesting. Your weakest performance would be Hamlet. That's very interesting. It's not my best performance. My best performance is Training Day when I do Training Day.

Ethan Hawke? No, Denzo Washington. Oh, really? See, I would think again He's better than me. Yeah, I get it. But again, I'm not that level.

Well, you're not an actor, but I think that, again, I would say that would be pretty like three-fourths down on how, you know, not good it is.

What do you think? That was so insecure. And he is the opposite of that of that movie. I don't know. Yeah. Also, that was a... in the script you know that's just what he did so you're just copying what he did you know what thing

wasn't in the script what so much of that initial diner scene where he's scared like he's scaring the shit out of Ethan Hawke you know I don't remember making him jump and he sticks his guns together and like wakes him up and oh there's this whole thing on there that most of it was ad lib yeah and it was like one of the first things they shot Ethan Hawke tells the story oh and he's like it was the most amazing like thing I've ever witnessed I had no idea what I was walking into oh wow really and he just like schooled me because that's the I mean that's the scene. Right. So it like, it wasn't like, I want to see that scene again. Yeah. It's an amazing scene. It is. He's reading the paper. Uh-huh. You don't remember this? No, I don't remember scenes in movies. He just

he starts talking. He's like, excuse me, I'm reading the paper. Like, why would you interrupt somebody reading the paper? And then he puts his finger down and he makes him tell the story about his last arrest. And he says his partner was a female. And he's like, she got that ass on her or whatever he says? You know, and he's like, I don't know. Right, right, right. Like in the middle of a sentence. But that was in the script. No, a lot of that shit was, that shit was not in the script. Do you fuck her? Not in script. Oh, really? Yeah. You tap that ass? Not in script. Oh. Anton Vucco was just like, I'm gonna fucking, this shit's gonna win some Oscars. You know what I mean?

Like just behind the monitor. You think? I wouldn't have thought Training Day would have been an Oscar contender. On the page, it's not. Right, right, right. Right. But Denzel Washington is a god and he's I mean, Ethan's amazing in it too. But like, Deso Washington's, I mean, talk about like taking something off the page and making it yours. That's like the most that there is. But I have a problem with that. I don't have a problem with him doing it

and that performance. But like actors see that and then they are like so bad at it. Yeah. You know he ad libbed the fucking King Kong. I know that. Well, that's what I heard. Yeah. He tells the story. Yeah. I had lived a lot of stuff on undatable. Okay. Comparable,

I guess. Yeah. sometimes even just we needed to fill time and it would be like you know my King Kong ain't got nothing on me in that in that in that series my King Kong's got nothing on me

moment was inside the actor's studio running out of guests my so my King Kong Got Nothing on Me moment in undatable and then in Whitney and also in Glory Days was James Lipton just like, what was your King Kong ain't got shit on me? What's your favorite swear word?

I just say the N word. Oh, oh. So anyway, all right, yeah, but that's so, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to rewatch that movie because I remember when I watched that movie, I didn't like the, didn't they do like some sort of like DV kind of like, like, Look. Training Day? So some of it.

You're thinking of end of watch. That's later David Ayer. No, I know that. What? That's later David Ayer. David Ayer wrote Training Day and it blew up his career. And then he made like three or four movies. Basically that are training day.

One is with Christian Bale, harsh times. Another one is End of Watch with Jake Gyllenha. I saw that one. That does that with Michael Pena. But doesn't, don't they do? Training Day does not do that. What they do is Ethan's high. High.

Yeah. And they do like a weird green. I think I remember right in like. that though. Okay, well, nitpick all you want, but training. No, no, no, I'm sure it's great. I'm sure it's great, yeah. No, it is great. I saw it. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, uh, it's Sunday, August 23rd episode

226. Happy birthday to Shelley Long, the legend, Lil Yadi, the legend and Julian Casablancus. Who's that? The purve. You don't know who that is? Uh-uh. Okay, folks, he lives under a rock. Well, who's that? I mean, I don't know

who little Yadi is, so who am I to say? Well, Lil Yadi is great, but I don't know who. Do you not know, you've heard Lil Yati. I know the name. I would have no clue if I saw him, heard his voice or song. I don't know,

I don't know the name, you don't know the name Julian. I don't think so. Maybe if the lead singer of the strokes. Okay, well, I know the strokes. And doesn't ring a bell? No. Wow, really?

I mean, he's huge. I mean, the strokes. But didn't you say he's a perv? I mean, yeah, he's a fucking perv, but I don't mean like he's a criminal. I just mean like it's like a dog. You know what I mean? Oh, got it.

Yeah. known as the lead singer He's famously not a dog He's what? He's famously not a dog He's famously not a dog Yeah What are you talking about

Their whole fucking thing When the whole thing blew up Was it his dad On the modeling agency? Yeah Where he would just fill the fucking stadium With or whatever venue it was With just models from the agency

Yeah But he got married like At 21 And was married to someone For like 20 years Are they still married? No No, they just got divorced.

Really? Six years ago or something. Damn, I retract my statement of Julian Costa Blanc. But all through Strokes fame, he was a married guy. Let's say again? All through strokes fame, he was a married guy. What a weird time to get divorced after that, you know? You'd think you'd want to do it during that period.

I mean, he's definitely got a lot of money, but people, so that's fine. Now he's still cool and could probably get his fucking Johnson. Now I think he probably dates. I mean, maybe the marriage ruled who. No, no, I know. Yeah, but true. Also, you never know why people get divorced. Yeah. Yeah.

Maybe she was a beard. How old is he now? 47. 47. I would guess that he's around my age, yeah. Look him up. Let me see what he looks at. That's weird to me.

I've been seeing him around recently. Really? Like, not around town. I mean, like, I've been seeing him pop up online recently. Probably. Are they, like, back on tour or something? Oh, yeah. Jesus.

They had a new record come out last week. Oh, okay. Okay, okay. Okay, so he wasn't a bad-looking younger. No, he was a handsome dude. I mean, he's probably still handsome. To some degree. That one picture was crazy.

But that's a bad picture, yeah. That's pretty accurately what he looks like right now. What's that? That's what he looks like right now. Where? That green picture. Oh, I'm the right now. Nobody told me.

Is that them? No, that's not that. That's a killer's. No. But I used to love the strokes. Yeah, actually. Anyway, it's their birthday today. All of the strokes.

Including non-perve, Julian Casablancas. Straight, straight man, straight down the middle. Beautiful, you know, a family man.

And I'll be in Springfield and Tempe and Birmingham and Atlanta. Go to chrisleya.com. Get tickets. Thank you very much. And also other places too. Like Indiana,

I just booked. Indianapolis. Buffalo. New York, too. All right. Go there. Get my tickets. and you know what I want to say this stuff

I'm trying to start a fight one again it's all good uh I'm gonna drink coffee yeah uh sign up for a patreon patreon patreon.com slash lifeline luxury just us no submissions banta sick in it subscribe to this channel on YouTube super good studios and of course subscribe to my patreon patreon patreon.com slash Matt DeLea it's where life happens the discord is on poppins things like this happen all day long it goes crazy over there i'm pretty

get up in the discord test it out give it a test drive as they say you will not regret it here we got the thumb that's what you'll look like when you do it for a while you'll be stuck like that dude i monday i monday i

i love that movie i monday starring fucking that woman from the sixth sense fucking what the fuck is her name cursing so much god damn it Tony Colette Tony Colette sometimes when she's in something she's amazing and it's good and sometimes it's just a brutal miss

and boring so boring that if you watch it you go why the fuck did they make this movie but this one is I Monday worst copy trailer announcer

a narrator she plays a working pirate a working pirate I'm Monday Imagine an unemployed pirate Well that's what I'm saying Because I am Monday

I again Monday Well I AY Yeah Oh I was thinking like I know you were I switched it Because I think of all the different things Shut the fuck up dude

I had to make it I think of all the different things I don't like that you said that I didn't mean to say it like that. But what I'm saying is you've got to think of all the different things to keep the bit going for fucking 25 minutes. 24 minutes. Well, I was saying that's why because I do that. And then some people online get mad.

They say the guy fucking dropped the bit already. You know what I mean? But it's like, no, I don't want to do that. I don't want to fucking keep doing it and doing it and doing it and doing it. And so deeper. It's just quite simply sedieper. But anyway, anyway, I Monday would be talking about. terrible, yeah. I'm Monday, yeah. I mean, I'm Monday. I guarantee you that'll be a movie at some point.

The next seven years. I know you meant I Monday, by the way. Yes. I know you meant a robot. But then and that's, that is funny. And then your version will never be a movie. No, no, no, I Monday where Tony Collette plays a working pirate. Yeah, that'll never be a movie. Yeah. I Monday. Like this. She's on a corner like, I like, I'm upset about it. Oh, another Monday. I. And she's on the cover like this. I's affirmative. I know. But for the joke.

I, yeah, yeah, I, Monday. Yeah. And she's got a peg leg and a parrot. And the parrots like this. So it's the comedy. Aye. I, Monday? I mean, you made it up.

What the fuck? I am Monday. Yeah. That could never be a real fucking. I comma Monday would be such a bad drama with Tony Collette. Yeah. Yeah. You'd have to make it a comedy.

and it would also be very bad. Yeah, there's no way around it being good. You can't make that good. I Monday is guaranteed to be bad. Yeah. No matter. Neither do we. Neither do we.

Did you say the same thing? Yeah. Oh, wow. So. Nice. Don't do the thing. I know you're going to do it. Don't do it.

Why don't you like it so much? Because it's disconcerting. It's unsettling is what it is. Well, how does it unsettle you? Unsettling is like a, no, it makes me. a demon. It makes me,

it's, like sleep paralysis demon. That's exactly what it is. But a hundred percent. Okay. Do it again? Yeah,

it's unsettling. If I saw it as a kid, I'd be fucking freaked out. But you're 40 fucking, what, six? Mm-hmm. Okay,

well, you're not a kid. And I'm your brother and I'm doing this. It's unsettling, bro. You know why you don't like it? You look me in the eye.

Try it. If I'm not looking at you in the eye, it's not unsettling. Try it looking like right there. Also unsettling. You didn't try long enough, but okay. I'm willing to concede that it's unsettling, but I don't think they would think that. I think if I did that to them, they would be overjoyed.

You don't think it's unsettling if fucking someone comes up to you and goes, you're out of your fucking mind, you stupid asshole, dude. Are you kidding me? In a fucking agency lobby or some shit? Get out of here. It's unsettling, dude. If you know the person or don't know the person. Well, if you don't know the person, then you're scared.

Right. And it's unsettling. If you do know the person, you go, what the fuck is wrong with this guy? Well, I would be, if their whole body, if they were like this and they were coming slowly on me, I would not know what was going on. Right. Yeah. And that's unsettling.

Yes. Okay. Inherently, dude. But I'm doing it to you and we're here. I understand. And it's still unsettling, dude. It's just unsettling, man. All right.

Oh, okay. Fine. What am I going to say? It's not? I'm doing it to you. You're the one experiencing it. I can't say it's not, but. We don't need, look, well, there was something I wanted to talk about.

I don't even remember what the fuck it was. This is important. Monday. Monday. You want to talk about I Monday again? No, no, no. I said, I Monday. And I started to tell a story and we went out to fucking.

Tony Collette. You did it. Monday. Yeah, I know. But then you did this thing. Like you were riding a fucking trust. Like you're the saw guy. I'm doing a long more.

So anyway, want to play a game. You're a working pirate too long. Mashup. Universe. The fucking saw I Monday universe. This is terrible Wait, hold on it's okay Do it, go

Tony Colette in a fucking In the movie Where she's like Zvvv Ah It shows different Of You know what I mean

How Saw does it And then fucking Uh Uh uh Uh Uh A Monday Wow

Wow Wow come on dude never seen a single saw i saw the first saw i saw the first saw cut and then the cuts and they get crazier and crazier they last like fucking 12 minutes now i just don't want to watch people get tortured ever and when when people like getting watched people getting tortured i'm confused and and disconcerted there you go okay so it's like that's my version of this for you yeah that that's we all have our own to me that's worse yeah well no but okay Uh, Monday I woke up.

Uh-huh. And I felt better than I had in at least weeks. And it was great. And it was almost like I was on drugs, but I wasn't. I had to get no drugs. Well, you're on peptides. Yeah, but is that it? Yeah.

Yeah, you're on other things other than what your body is naturally producing. So yes. But, but okay, fine, fair. and I'm willing to you say okay, but that this, it was Monday. Not I'm Monday.

Not any of the days before that that I was taking peptides and then also not Tuesday and then not today. But. And I'm still on peptides. It occurs to me that. About to slam me on a fucking

I mean, yeah, after you start taking peptides, like it's a delayed introduction into your body and then you start feeling the positive. effects. Well, if that's the fact, then New Era, thank you very much. Era, thank you very much.

New A-I-R-A-R-A-D-C-O-O. Use the code, Chris 50. You get some stuff off. And I'm not even obligated to say this, but, you know, New Era is the peptides company. Thank you for that Monday. I'm not obligated to do this. But I do it anyway.

Should we do it? Real quick, before we start. Okay. because I forgot to talk about this before we started the show. Because I forgot to start recording. I quit. What if, you know what I want to do is like do like a movie night or not a night, not a watch along. This is part of the show right now.

We're not cutting. Okay. Well, I mean, we could cut. No, no, no. That's okay. Fine. Why cut? Fuck it.

I want to pick a movie that we watch and then we talk about on like Lifeline luxury or whatever. And then also people can watch it. Oh, that's a good idea. And I'll pick something that's like on Netflix, something that. Everybody likes. Okay, cool. Yeah. Sounds good.

Yeah. Should we do it? Citizen Kane. Okay. So I'm going to have movie options by the end of this episode. Oh, okay, cool. Okay, cool. That's why I'm bringing it up.

Great. All right, cool. Great. Anyway, yeah, we should do one though. But yeah, it's been 20 fucking minutes. Hey, what's up, guys? My name is Ross. What's up, Matt?

I love you guys. You guys remind me a lot of me and my older brother. And I love your podcasts. So I'm on my break right now. So let me just die right into it. So I have two years and a half of recovery, clean and sober. Wow. And earlier this year, I met this woman who relapsed and she wanted help.

So she asked me to take her meetings, asked me to take her to church and do bookwork with her. And I did all these things. But in that, I started to develop strong feelings for her. Now, all my close friends, they called me stupid. They're like, dude, what are you doing? And then I would say shit like, oh, I'm not in love with the chaos. I'm in love with a person underneath the chaos and all that. crap but anyways um she started slowly like slipping to psychosis and um she's like hey i really do need

help could you move in with me and i said yes i'd move in with her um but right before i was going to move in she got so deep into psychosis that she actually cursed me out and said some really mean things to me and uh she disappeared for like a month i had no idea where she went what turns out she ended up going into a psychiatric word it was at that point that she started taking her meds yeah and uh she got to a new program. And I was really happy for her. But then when her mind became better, she decided that she actually didn't have feelings for me. Okay.

And that really crushed. Yeah. And so I kept crying about it to my friends. And they're like, dude, you need to get over it. But I'm having a hard time getting over it. I don't know why. Like, I literally think about her every day. And I just want to know what are some ways that I could try to figure out how to get over this?

Anyways, love you guys. Love the podcast. God bless. Dude, that is a hell of an honest, like, submission, and that's cool. And you sound like, sometimes you're like, people in recovery are like so well. They understand themselves so well if they're doing the work. And he's obviously doing the work, but the thing about that, that jumps to mind is just, you know, sometimes, and I know this are. our addicts take shape in a different way.

And just two things. That could be what it's doing now with this woman. Like you could be just addicted to this chaos or this is what your addict is telling you. But then also you can be in love with somebody and then also just have it not work out and that's okay. Like those two things should make you feel more comfortable because like I don't I don't think that this person sounds like she would be good for you in your life just given what you have said whether you're in love with her or not. So there's that. That's a huge thing that life is actually telling you right now. You know what I mean?

And it sounds like your friends are too. And also at the end of the day, whichever one it is doesn't. And I mean this in a good way doesn't matter. matter because like you catch feeling for someone you catch feeling for someone the reasoning behind it the machinations in your brain that you're totally unaware of as to why you're attracted one person on another you don't control so like what your friends might have been saying about like don't get caught up with this or whatever in the beginning they had every right to say that probably because they saw something in her they knew about your past yeah they knew it was maybe

not the best idea, probably wasn't the best idea. But whatever, you wanted to help someone out and that was genuine. That might have gotten blurred a little bit with your feelings for. Shit happens, whatever. The psychosis part is very unfortunate. It's fortunate she got help. It's fortunate that it's not fortunate that she disappeared on your ass for a month and you had no idea what was going on. But it is fortunate that she came back on meds better.

obviously it's unfortunate that now that she is on meds and feeling better, the feelings that she purported to have for you, then she no longer has. Brains are weird and the slightest brain alteration, whatever meds she's on, whatever experiences she went through, whatever program she was in, her brain's different now. And there's nothing you can do about that. and when someone says, ah, just get over it, that it's like, that is meaningless. That's utmost unhelpful.

Yeah, I mean, you still have to get over it, but yeah. Yeah, but you will. Right, you will. But like to be like, oh, come on, you got to get over it by now. Like, come on, like, this is not realistic. You can't rush someone to get over someone. But what I would say to you is try to keep in mind,

that person is not that person anymore. I don't mean that like... They are now Johnny Cash. Exactly. What I mean is like their brain chemistry is completely different. She was struggling with addiction. She was doing whatever, whatever was going on earlier.

Still got the back door though. Then she had psychosis and then she came out of psychosis with treatment and now is being treated. Her brain is completely different and it's operating completely differently. So you can. can ascribe, you can really, I mean, it's a blank slate. You can put onto that whatever you want. Her feelings before were fucking real. Sure, they were. But now, because the meds, they're not, it has nothing, what I'm saying is that has another fucking do with you. It has to do with what she

fucking went through and what she's going through and where she is right now. And if that, for, if I'm you, I'm telling myself, this is not the person that I, was that into to begin with in the first place. Yeah, but she still has that ass. You can still be attracted to her. You're attracted to or you're attracted to. But I'm saying like it can make it a little easier if you remind yourself that that person is literally not that person now. Right.

But they look like that person because the ass is still how you like it or whatever. And you can still, I mean, I don't know what a bra size is, but you know what I'm saying. I don't mean to be disrespectful. But if you like that size of. bra than size of bra i don't want to say tits well he's not a cross-dresser if you like that size of bra tits if you like her tits okay fine i said it but i do think uh uh you know sometimes addicts you know

well yeah i left that wholly out too but go ahead yeah we get a little bit more kind of involved than we should have than we should in situations that we shouldn't you know and maybe that's what you're doing. Also, maybe there was part of the savior complex that a lot of men have. Well, that's kind of what that is part of that. And now there's nothing to save anymore. And that might be discombobulating. I don't know, dude.

But also that's what, that's a version of an addicts too. So, you know. Savior complex? That's in a lot of, yeah. It's in a lot of them. Yeah. Really? At least when I went to rehab, yeah.

I hadn't, I haven't experienced. I mean, I'd take your word for it, obviously. I mean, different addiction. Yeah, yeah, yeah, different. Yeah, mine was, I was addicted to all things Robocop. And Robotheism, yeah. Yeah, I was addicted to other stuff, but yeah. Drop them.

I would say that to women when they have their panties on. Drop them. And they go running. Zsk, sask, oh, sk. I would go like that after them. Mm-hmm. I don't remember that from Robocop. I don't remember that when you asked me to draw my panties.

calling me out in incendiary like just at the top level mock 11 calling me out I don't remember that when that was in Robocop you don't remember what from Robocop to be specific huh drop them you don't remember drop them yes oh the yes was unreal the yes the pause between my question yeah and answer and then the affirmative was wild so unsure that he doesn't know. I could have heard it actually. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Did I hear that? Yes. Um, no. Yeah. He, he, he, he, drop them's famous. Yeah.

Well, is it? Yeah. Drop them. Google it. Google Robocop drop them. See what comes up. Oh, because that could totally just be a thing that we did in our childhood. It could be for sure.

Yeah. The phrase drop them or drop gun your underrest is a famous catcher. Yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah.

Play it. Let's play it. Drop them. Yeah Might have to cut it Well This is too long Now this is too long

You know the whole movie Fucking universal Whatever he fucking says Drop him Drop it There we go It drop it Yeah

Drop it Yeah I think that was a thing I thought it was drop them too But I guess it I think it probably was Because I would start making Jokes about Panties And maybe it became that

Really Or you know It could have been guys with guns drop them to everybody yeah I don't know what?

Nothing what do you say? I said wait a sec but I said it to myself I didn't think so I'm like this guy's just fucking pulling shit out I don't think so anything you say about Robocow

I'm a fucking may say or about Robocout I'm skeptical leaving it existed All right well yeah so yeah I hope they you're okay bro but you'll be okay you will absolutely no you will be okay yeah that's the thing dude nothing matters you know isn't that he seems really solid actually he said he's two and a half

year sober he said yeah that's good congratulations man that's a all right that's actually a huge fucking deal yeah good for you yeah you want to do next one yeah yeah what's up guys second time calling first time i called for career advice on whether i should look for a job for higher pay or stay in the one that i'm happy in uh i'm the guy with the four-year-old and two two-year-olds been to announce that the compensation side of things did turn around this year. So sticking with that and all good there for now. But what I am calling about is how do you explain to your kid or Matt your nephews what death is when they ask, especially not being a religious guy like myself. My four-year-old son is pretty insightful, thoughtful, and has asked about that. And the way that

I've tried to explain it is that we're all part of the universe. We're all energy. We return to that universe, life, death, it's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful life. Put a positive spin on it because I truly believe it probably is pretty awesome, the experience. Obviously, not for the people that are mourning you, but to see what it's all about is probably pretty amazing. So how do you guys go about answering that question when Calvin or Billy comes up and says, you know, to Chris or Uncle Matt? You know, where do you go when you die? What do you guys say? I'd love to hear your thoughts. Take care. Yeah.

All I say is ask your dad. And I go, ask my dad. No, I don't, yeah. I mean, they say just be very direct about it and don't couch it like in any way. But it sounds like you're doing that. You're like, you know, I mean, what you're saying is, you know, true. And a good way to say it to a four year old, I think. I mean, I, you're saying they say,

What? Don't like, don't, don't, don't, don't, uh, let them understand the finality of it. Like, don't be like, they need to know, this is what I've heard from some sources. Sure. Is to, is to let them know that, don't put it off. It's death. It happens. If they ask, be like, this is what happened is sometimes people die. And then, you know, you're just honest with them.

Damn, that's intense. I know. I know. It is. Um, you know, and I don't know if that means don't, you know, if you believe, you know, you say you're not a religious guy, but if you are religious guy, I don't know if that means give them the heaven speech then or what, but like it's like, uh, it's, it's wild because, you know, yeah, I guess it's probably easier if you're, you know, believe in one of the. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Calvin knows about it, you know, he knows about, um, you know, we had a dog, we had a dog pass. And he was through. that and he'll remember that you know and when i told him we said listen i gotta tell you a pd died last night you know and we let him know what it was and he was like wow i remember he said i remember he said oh my god and um yeah so it's it's tough though dude it's probably like one of the

toughest things ever you know and it's just i remember being a kid and waking up i guess it was mom because it was that side of the bed. In the middle of the night, often, I would wake her up, and I would say, how do I know when I die that I'm going to go to heaven? But it would be like 3 a.m. You would sleep in the same bad as mom? No, I would go into a room.

Oh, got it, because I would be racing thoughts. Yeah, yeah. And I was young. Like, maybe Cal's age. Maybe a little older. I don't know. How do I know when I die, when I go to heaven, I would think it was in a nightmare.

I mean, she wasn't a nightmare. Yeah, but mom would probably like, don't have Ben. She was just like, because that's just how it goes. That's just what happens. And I'd be like, well, how do you know that? And she'd be like, because I know that because that's how it is. And I'd be like, but what is your, and it would be so annoying about it. Of course, yeah.

End up being just like, go to fucking bed. Right. But I have no insight into this whatsoever. I don't remember when I learned about it, but I just remember being stressed. out about it when I was a kid. When I was a kid I was. Now my own death does not scare me at all. What scares me are the deaths of people that I care about. I don't know. It's actually strange. I don't know when that changed because I used to be afraid. I used to be a hypochondriac.

Yeah. I used to think things were going to come out scared in my 20s. Yeah. Somewhere in my 30s, I just was like, I don't know. He's fucking dead. I don't know. Who gives the fuck? If someone, you died, I'd be like, well, the fuck. I know. You know what I mean? Like, that would be devastating for the world. If Chris died, I'd be devastating. If Tay died, I mean, who I don't care?

If Anthony died, you'd be like, who's Anthony? No, but, yeah, I don't know. Death is, yeah. They just say be pretty direct, but yeah, I mean, you know, it's one of those things that it's unavoidable. So, I mean, most people know this, but you're not supposed to say went to sleep or something like that.

Right. I guess that's kind of what I mean. Like you're not supposed to say they, you're supposed to say death is a thing and it happened. Not they went to sleep. They went to. Because then they could be afraid of going to sleep.

Right, right, right. That's part of part of kind of what I meant to say. Maybe you could play a trick on that. Something that your kid doesn't like to do. Like say it bothers you. I'm just going to think of something when your kid goes swimming. You can say,

oh, they went swimming. and they're never coming back. You know? The worst dad. It could work out for you, as an absolute worst dad. They wouldn't stop, they didn't clean their room. Yeah. And then they died.

Yeah, no, that's even, that's way better. Yeah. Pure manipulation. Yeah. This is good parenting advice. They didn't do their parents' taxes. There you go. Hey, I'll drop these off.

Um Here's my turbotax login Hopefully you get it done by February 16th Otherwise You owe me Yeah Death you know I'm not afraid of death

I'm afraid of pain Well yeah Yeah that that Yeah Dude I'm afraid of a Like A shitty death

You know And I mean, and not like, I mean, yeah, I mean, there's, what disease is one thing, but, um, gosh, man, have you ever like, that guy who got stuck in the fucking cave and, like, was just. Bro, I just saw this thing today on fucking Instagram about that. It was a virtual representation of this dude. Yes. You saw this? No, I saw it a little while ago, though. I know what you're talking about.

So, yeah, so it was in my algorithm today. Okay. It showed the virtual. Do you know about this guy? You know what spulunking is? Yeah. Extreme cave diving. Yeah, I know what it is.

This guy got caught at the end of a tunnel this way and he couldn't back out. And they showed on this Instagram clip the virtual path he took and it had, it's like POV. And it was fucking, it's just like, Jesus, man. Why would someone make that? Oh. Because this is the world we live. Right. Yeah, you're right.

No, it was terrible. And then they said that guy was a lot. for 27 hours or something and just couldn't do anything that's what I think of and I'm just like fucking well that yeah well there's pain right I mean like again not afraid of death but I am afraid of pain that is terrifying

because that's that's not just physical pain slunking is crazy bro mental pain emotional pain you go 27 hours to what think yeah and slowly pass that's the worst possible fucking thing well not the worst possible I'll behold of my breath to die trying to tape it shut yeah yeah uh that's a fucking downer can we go and do a new one yeah we're a really really good one yeah comments under

shit like that are always like the cool thing is you don't have to do this and that's what I always think oh like spulunking yeah man I don't understand why people do that I mean I I I don't I'm not even really a thrill-seeking kind of guy though but like when I got sober the guy my guide the uh uh uh who was like, not necessarily, whatever, got me through it, was he said there's two types of people who get addicted to what the kind of drug I was addicted to. And that's, that's people with, who are,

thrill seekers, thrill seekers, and people with high IQs. And I was like, well, that must mean I have a high IQ because I'm not a fucking thrill seeker. But he was like, Thuvese cures opiates 80% of their time. Wow. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, that makes sense, I guess. Especially if you're going to fucking get hurt, getting splunk. Yeah, exactly.

It's easy to get hooked on them, yeah. What's the most thrilling thing you guys have, like, forced yourself to experience? That's honestly looking at that clip, the virtual clip of the spulunking guy. What is the,

what was the question? What's the most thrilling thing you guys have forced yourself to do? Like skydiving or a bunch of, So rare. Yeah. I can't even. Honestly, stand up. I mean, that's good.

Yeah. I don't. Otherwise, honestly, that far second would be, I mean, obviously. A roller coaster? Yeah, roller coaster, I think.

That's what I was going to say. That was the first and only thing I could think of. Like, I mean, probably something more, but that's what comes to mind. That's nothing, though. I mean, that's the fucking amusement part.

I follow this person on Instagram. She just, like, jumps out of shit and, like, parachutes. And I'm like, what the fuck dude she just keeps doing it i'm like this is crazy to me and every time i see i'm like man that's so fucking high and she just for so long and i'm just like i i'm just sometimes look at it and be like what would make me want to do that and then well nothing i guess it takes all kinds i mean but also life is a long time and i have changed my mind on lots of things

You know? So maybe one day I would be like, oh, I got to do it. I could so see that about me. But I just, you know, skydiving. I don't think I've done anything crazy than a fucking roller coaster either. I've never been bungee jumping, skydiving. Yeah, I haven't done any of that. I don't, I've always been afraid of, I used to like going to water parks. And I wouldn't even go on the one that goes straight down. Yeah, yeah. But, but no, to be clear, though, I don't think I don't do those things because I'm scared, though. I don't, I am. I am. But I think I don't do them. I know what you're going to say. Because it's just too involved, too much to do. This is exactly. You got to get on the plane. You got to. This is my whole thing.

Yeah. And scared or fear shows up later, like under that hierarchy. Yeah. Because I think if it was just fear, I would probably do it. Yeah. Because I don't, I don't. If I'm, if I close my eyes, open my eyes, I'm in a plane. I'm with a fucking skydiving instructor.

Oh yeah, for sure. And he's like, we're ready to go in a minute. You ready? I'd be like, I would do it. Fuck it. Yeah, yeah. So you guys just don't want to do anything. I've always said this.

I've always said, pretty much for me. I've always said the less gear, the better. That's just I don't. That's why I love stand-up, dude. I feel like all stand-ups want to be rock musicians, rock stars. I don't. Dude, I have to show up with all that fucking equipment sucks. I want to show up.

minimalist. I don't ever want to have to bring anything. That's what when people are like, oh, would you love to go fucking skiing? Are you, oh my God, dude, no. Hasn't it with fear. I just, that sucks. All that shit. Got to carry the skis. Get the boots on. Got to click them on. Got to go up the whole thing, the ski lift. Yeah. You know what I mean? All that stuff. I'm with you on this. Put me at the top of the ski with all the shit on, fine, maybe. But. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, I'm with you on all that. Yeah, a rare full agreement from both of us. We must, it must have been mom and dad that just kind of are like that.

Yeah, they're like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, totally like that. I mean, we never fucking. Oh, we went on ski trips. When we were a little. Yeah, but it was a little different, though, because it was like, you'd go there and

you'd just rent this stuff. It wasn't like, okay, get everything together. Get the pack, get the camping. You know what I mean? That's different. That kind of family's different. But we never even went camping as kids. No, I mean, we did Indian guys, but no, yeah, that's not, yeah, that's up as cabins and shit.

Yeah. Yeah. Remember the guy, Indian guys who drank his drink like this? No. Don't remember that? Uh-uh. Wow, that's shocking to me. He'd hold this drink like this and we wouldn't make so much fun of him.

Was it a kid? Yeah. Asian kid. I don't remember. Damn. Fuck you. Sucks. Fuck you, dude.

No. Yeah, no, fuck you, dude. Anyway, let's do another. Okay. Oh my God. Gandalf. What's up, Chris and Matt? Young Gandalf.

Chris, I know you're going to say I have upside downhead because of my beard. That's beyond upside down here. That's kid and play up. So my question is, I'm a studio musician in Nashville. No, really? And sometimes I get lots of work, sometimes I get no work. And I feel like I put so much identity into what I do that on the slow months where bills are hard to pay and stuff, it kind of feels like a personal and a professional failure yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

yeah so i was wondering if you guys can relate to that yes i can what your thoughts are um just kind of putting so much identity into your career and that really affecting um your mood and your outlook on life and everything so that's interesting. Yeah. I'd love to know your thoughts. You guys have the shit. Thank you, dude. It's very common. Yeah, that's stuff for a man. I can relate extremely heavily to that. Uh, you, it's... Can you explain it more? Yeah. Like what it is. Uh, you tie your success at work. Not necessarily... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, fucking huge success. You could write all day and fucking be happy with what you wrote, but if nobody's reading it.

Right. Right. Yeah. So you tie your success at work to your identity. And that means... What does that mean, though? What that means is if I'm not making whatever X amount a month like I did two months ago, three months ago, then I'm failing. I'm... Me as a human as me. Got it. Got it. Got it. And failing. And thus a failure. Well, that's very, very common. Yeah. But it's, it's tricky, I think, because it's not necessarily a bad thing to identify. yourself with your work. If you love your work especially.

But like that doesn't mean that a slow month means or slow few months means that you have failed. It just means that especially if you have experience with it, which this guy does, he knows ebbs and flows, it's going to come back. So to identify yourself with your work is one thing. Whether work's coming in or not, you can still do work on your own. You can do work. over much you want, as little as you want.

That's free time in the sense, and that's the way to look at it. If work is going to come and you know it, you don't know it because you don't know anything. You get hit by a fucking bus tomorrow. But like, as you said, it ebbs and flows. Some months are great, some aren't, and you know that. So it's easier when you know that to remind yourself to relax in those moments of slower work that work's going to come. It's dangerous though to identify

Yourself you with the level of success you reach because that's gonna change month to month and your fucking life and your feelings about yourself are gonna be a fucking roller coaster And that's not good for you obviously But it's really really also and this is not something people talk about enough Not good for the other people in your life Yeah Because those people are affected too So if you're having a fucking bad couple work months you're fucking asshole you're You're a dark cloud.

People are like, what's wrong with man? Fucking, I had a bad few months. Boo-hoo. Yeah. You know what I mean? Fucking life is life, work is work. It's not steady. It's hard.

It's a lot of things. You're an artist. These things are fucked up. But like, you can't tether your own sense of self to your level of success on a straight line. You need to know that it's going to dip ebb and flow. Come up, come down. and live with it. Yeah, I'm trying to think because I like so strongly identify as a comedian, but also it's just

kind of like professionally, success-wise. I don't know. It's not really a personal thing to me. Like I fully am happy with my capabilities of it. Yeah, but what if you stopped getting hired to do gigs and you had to start just going doing open mics again. I mean, you'd have something to compare it to, so that would be difficult.

But would you, that would shift your perspective on what you do entirely, no? Or no. Is that what I'm saying? Would you still just be like, this is what I do, this is what I love, and like it will come back?

Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. I would. I think, yeah. Well, that is, I would say, is that healthy or not healthy? I would say that's the peak healthiest way to think of it.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't. Because what you're doing is you're identifying with your work because you love it. Right. But you're not tethering that to the level of success. And that's when shit gets dicey. Yeah. I mean, if I played, you know, if I had to play coffee shops now.

Yeah. And there were 12 people there. I would find unreal joy during those shows. That's a beautiful thing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the lows would be probably worse because no one's laughing and there's only 12 people there. Yeah, and they're all drinking coffee and not paying attention to.

But no, yeah, I could find unreal joy doing that. Yeah, I mean, you're you're very lucky. I mean, it's being an artist in general is really fucking hard to make living at. And being an artist finding a steady living at that is, I mean, less than 1%. Like that's really difficult. Even ones that you would look out in the world and be like, oh, that's a successful actor.

Dude, I'm telling you, that motherfucker is struggling. It pays bills. I guarantee you know who I always think of is, and this is just the guy I think of that is so like. If you say the same person I'm thinking of, I'm going to fucking shit myself right now. Go ahead. The guy who played.

Oh my God, I think you're going to. No, I don't think so. my best friend's wedding the fucking the the guy that liked her and that was what's his name Rupert No not not the gay one

The other one My best friend's brother No not him though Murroney Murroney Oh Dermit Mulroney I always think of him as that guy Because I guarantee

He's so recognizable And I guarantee that he's just like Every three months like Where the fuck am I gonna get my next gig Yeah You know what I'm saying? Yeah yeah yeah

Yeah and people think of him and rightly so as a famous actor. Yeah, he had a good actor. He's good, yeah? He's been in some great fucking movies. He just came out with a fucking new action movie. Oh yeah. Yeah, he's doing that kind of shit now.

Did you see it? The trailer I saw. I saw it for 10 minutes. Holy shit. Is it sick? It is beyond bad. Is he sick in it? No.

I mean, in our way, maybe. What is that movie? What's that Jack Black movie with James and Marsden? It's, uh... Yeah, he's in that? Yeah, he plays himself in that. Dude, that movie's so funny. And Jack Black's like, I'm friends with him. him. And he goes up to him at the club.

Yeah, it's like, uh, the D train. The D train. Oh, God, dude. Jack Black is like, oh, I know Derman Murony and he goes up to him and Durrance like, uh, it's really my friend. My friend. I know the guy who directed and wrote that. And my God, that's such a funny movie. And it is a funny movie. Um, uh, yeah, he's like, well, who are you going to say is like that? I was going to say somebody less or no. I, uh, uh, Shea Wigam, who is one of my favorite actors. That guy. He works all the time. He's been in many shows

And as you know You get paid way better on TV shows Than you do on movies But dude This motherfucker will take I mean he's in so many movies In the tiniest roles Do you know him?

I've had a meeting with him I don't know him now But he is my favorite character actor But I bet this guy's doing better Than Dylan McDermott You think so? Yeah This guy's in too many things

Maybe He doesn't You think he's quoted high though Well, no, you might be right. The other guy's quote might be higher, but the, I just don't. Yeah, this guy just like. Well, this guy never stops work. He's also, this guy is also very good.

He's amazing. Yeah. He's serviceable for whatever movie it is. You know, when you hired, what's the guy's name? Patrick Mulrone. What is this fucking name? Dermit Moroni. Dermit Mulroney.

What's he, Patrick? Dermit Moroni is, can do kind of his thing. You know. Dermott started doing indies, like, again, a little bit as an older guy, uh, that were kind of interesting. And that kind of re-kicked him back into some kind of light. And I think now he's trying to do, no, no, no. Yes.

You keep saying him. No, dude. I'm not talking about him. This is so weird. This is so weird. Okay. I'm talking about Dermit Maloney. Dermit Mollone.

Dermott is up Dermott Morn. Dermott is in both of them. Dermit's a fucking stupid name. How about that? And if you're going to fucking. have it and there's another guy around you with it kind of near your name you got to fucking change it dude one of you does well they they both have successful careers why would they change it this guy i'm talking about my best friend's wedding he was in my best friend's wedding this guy is the guy

i i know i have zero confusion about okay i'm not talking about okay go up go so this guy is i guarantee every three months is the guy that i was talking about i understand and understood that and he's good he's great yeah real good He's in Zodiac. Yeah. Well, look that shirt he's wearing in that fucking picture with the beard. Yeah, oh, yeah. He's a Southbuying that shirt.

Oh, that was at the premiere of one of the fucking, uh, uh, uh, Indies he did. Guarantee he bought that shirt in when he was at Southby. Look at the green bandana. I would wear that green bandana. Wow. But, um, so anyway, I think that, uh, he's the shit, dude. Uh, and he should be in more stuff. but my point is

I think that they should do I think that they tried to do straight up what they did with Liam Neeson and taken with him in this new movie that he did. I fully agree A

and B, I think they have tried and have been trying to do that with many other others. Yeah, they have for sure. Aaron Eckhart. Yeah, Aaron Eckhart is I think if there's going to be a next one I don't think it's going to be him

but I think the best chance to be the next one is him. he started already he has a new one out i know that's just i know but nobody's seeing it oh is it out already he's just i don't know but he's too he's too uh conventional kind of looking what's his name leom nison is just so mysteriously cool he's handsome he's really sexy he's very handsome but um okay so anyway let's talk about yeah go ahead yeah let's talk about the lifeline movie club oh But what's Deepwater? Maybe it's the Aaron Ackar movie we should watch.

That's not on Netflix, though, is it? No. Oh, no. Oh, is it theatrical? No, that is on Netflix, actually. Oh. But I, you refuse? I don't know, maybe.

Who made, oh, Rennie Harlan directed that shit? Rennie Harlan's still directing movies. Ben Kingsley's in it. Is that T.J? directed Cutthroat Island. The Long Kiss Good Night. Die Hard 2, this guy directed. Wow.

Is that T.J.? Cliffanger. This guy. He's a king, dude. Wow. Oh, he's still, how old is he? And is it, T.J? I could have just clicked on his fucking, nobody wants to answer my question.

59? 1959. So he's fucking 68. Damn, dude, he's still working his ass off. Is it, that's tough to direct the movie at 70? What? Never mind, nobody cares. You're saying he looks like T.J. Miller?

No, is T.J. Miller in it. It looked like that was T.J. Miller in the movie. Oh, I'm sorry. But whatever. and that's fine. In deep water? Yeah. He probably,

uh, okay, listen, we're starting a movie club. That looks like T. J. Miller. Okay.

Is up there? Yeah, that was the right there. Yeah. Anyway, is it him. It doesn't matter. It doesn't,

it's probably, it's probably, who cares? It's not him. Yeah, who cares, really? I guess it's not him.

But, uh, so you were wrong. Fucking. Such a little brother. So, uh, trying to get a topic going here.

Yeah, I understand. I understand. Well, this was that, though. I was suggesting maybe this. What's the... Motherfucker? No, we should pick this movie, though. We should pick another...

I didn't... I picked three movies that... Oh, I'm sorry, fucking the Master of the Universe over you. I haven't been... I don't know if it's on Netflix. Okay, puppet master. What do you got for us? You know, it'll be amazing. If this was on his list, though. Deepwater, number one,

okay? So that's the one I thought maybe we should watch. All right, what are your three? Okay. So, well, first, I want to say that we're going to... Here we go. Watch a movie. Everybody's, we're not going to do it all at the same time because that's too hectic. Yeah, of course.

We're just going to announce what we're watching and then we'll talk about it on luxury later. Oh, that's a good idea. Okay. So it'll be one of the things that we talk about because the conversation could be a little bit more organized. So, my three picks are spy game. Okay. Fallen with Denzel or caught stealing. What's that?

Oh, no. I saw caught stealing. Cost stealing is the biggest piece of shit and Autor has ever made. Wow. I've seen Spy Game and Fallen, but I can watch either of them again. I would, I pick Fallon. Guys, have you watched Fallon recently? No, I saw Fallon in the theater.

I saw it forever ago. I saw it in the theater. It's unwatchable. Oh, we're watching it. Well, that's that, but yeah, but that's kind of. That's good. I guess that's the point, right? Okay.

My game is great, though. Denzel's in it, though. No, I know, no. So Fallon is available on Netflix. Yeah, it is. And we want everybody to watch this and we'll probably, I don't know, it'll probably be on luxury in two weeks.

And the king of the world, Denzel Washington's in it. So we're all good. We're all set. Okay, so everybody listening to this, if you're not on our Patreon, sign up for our Patreon and join the discussion, but we're going to watch Fallen with Denzel Washington. It's on Netflix.

So watch that and then you'll be hip to our conversation on one of the things we'll talk about on luxury. I'll do a great breakdown of Denzel's performance. Oh, I bet you will, man. And I'll do really good impression. of it. And you and the audience can be the judge of who did it better. And I won't be insulted if you see him.

Okay. And I won't be insulted if you say he did it better. Oh, he's better. Anyway, appreciate you guys. Thanks. Love you guys. Copenhagen and Buffalo, New York. See you.

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