Limitless: An AI Podcast - HUGE UPDATE: What's Happening With Our Show & What's Next

Episode Date: October 7, 2026

Thank you for bearing with us. Today, we're going to discuss some big changes happening for us and our show. We'll also give some high level perspective on the rapid progress in AI, from early model demos to current tools for games, video, agents, and scientific research.------🌌 LIMITLESS HQ ⬇️NEWSLETTER:    https://limitlessft.substack.com/FOLLOW ON X:   https://x.com/LimitlessFTSPOTIFY:             https://open.spotify.com/show/5oV29YUL8AzzwXkxEXlRMQAPPLE:                 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/limitless-podcast/id1813210890RSS FEED:           https://limitlessft.substack.com/------TIMESTAMPS0:00 New Era Begins7:23 Why Josh Moved On9:46 AI Progress Accelerates13:37 Personal Agents Surge16:17 The Adoption Gap19:08 Robotics and Wetware21:09 Compute Spends Explode24:22 AI Penetration Reality28:10 Better Questions Ahead29:24 Team Gratitude Roundup31:05 Thanking the Audience34:05 Where To Find Us------RESOURCESJosh: https://x.com/JoshKaleEjaaz: https://x.com/cryptopunk7213------Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here:https://www.bankless.com/disclosures⁠Josh works with Anthropic as a contractor. All views expressed are his own and do not represent Anthropic, its leadership, or its affiliates. Nothing in this episode is investment advice.

What's up, everybody? Welcome back to Limitless. You probably have some questions. It's been a little while. What has it been? Three weeks and two days, something like that. Not that we've been counting. But we have some updates. This is an update video, letting you know what's been going on over the past few weeks. What will be going on over the next two weeks, months and hopefully years. And as you can see, be jazz right by my side. Things are good. I don't know which side you are, Josh. All as well. Yeah, I think, yeah, you're giving, wait, I'll give the hug, put the arm out. There we go. Yeah, there's her virtual hug. All as well. We have some updates. Ejas, you want to fill people in about what's been going on in the last few weeks? Oh, what hasn't been going on? It's been excruciatingly painful. Listen, we miss you guys so much, and we see all the messages. We have missed you guys. Yes, can we talk about the messages, Josh?

The amount of people that have messaged me, and I'm sure it's been the case for you as well, being like, have you and Josh broken up? Like, is everything good between you and Josh? Just to address the rumors, Josh and I are very well. I can still see him in his window. Well, actually, there's a building that's obstructing his view. But he's sort of. We live right next to each other also. And the messages, the outpouring of messages has been so kind and so generous.

And it's really nice to see the support from the people who have watched. Yes, it has. And, okay, so let's go through like a quick kind of, I guess, list of things that have been happening. The first thing is we've been working on some stuff behind the scenes. And what that looks like is a new partnership that comes in the form of this company. that had been listening to us and were actually fans of the show. They'd been listening to us for about three to four months and they kind of reached out. They were like, hey, how can we work with you? You know, you guys are looking for like sponsorship or like, you know, you want to expand the show and build it on a bigger scale.

And so that's what we've been working on behind the scenes. And it's been excruciating not being able to talk about it with you guys and figure out, you know, how to communicate with this and like put out new episodes for you folks. But we're finally reached a point where we're comfortable enough to do that. And we're excited to be back on the show. So I guess update number one is Yahoo Finance has agreed to work very closely to put out AI content to you. We talk about all the headline news, trending topics, new releases, new models, but there is also another update. Yes, when EGIS says us, he means us a little more sparingly than normal. Because as of now, this is going to be a different type of show where I will be less involved. And this is the part that breaks my heart. as this whole process was going on with Yahoo and we were figuring out how to transition,

some of you who have been sleuthing around the internet realized that I also had a role at Anthropic as a contractor. I have decided to continue to pursue that and continue to work at Anthropic as a full-time job at a full-time capacity. And it's doing similar stuff to what we're doing here on the show. It's creating content. It's talking about AI. It's just doing so at the place that we talk about on all of our episodes. And it was really difficult. EJaz and I, we worked through a lot of the logistics of what this would look like and just kind of making sure it was cool by everybody. So instead of me being the host of every episode, I will be involved much more sparingly. I'm here today. I will hopefully be dropping in every once in a while. But EJazz is now going to be shepherding you through

the singularity and beyond for all of these daily episodes. And like I do have to just thank everyone for the support and just like being here today in general listening to this episode. Ejazz, this is number two, three, four. We've recorded 234 episodes of the show, which is just like an unbelievable journey that we've gone on over the last, what has it been, like 15, 16 months. And the support that we've garnered over the last year from all the people who just reached out over the last couple of weeks concerned, wondering where we've been missing their favorite daily show. It's been so nice and just really sweet to feel the, I guess, like, compassion from the audience that we've built, the community that we have. And like, miss you. We'll miss you, but we'll continue

to provide content on a regular basis through our pal over here, EJazz, who is now, I will say, much more resourced. EJAS will be in a studio, filming a real show, and doing so at a regular cadence. So it's, yeah, kind of a weird, big change. Tough change to talk about. It's, dude, it's huge. But like a new, a new chapter, a new era for both of us. I want to address the you moving on to Anthropic because it's kind of like going through a breakup. Josh, I told you this. Oh, the pit in my stomach definitely reassures that. Dude, I was like, like, we've been friends for so long and like we started this show literally in our bedrooms stemming from conversations that we had offline before we ever sat in front of a camera. And so, dude, it's like extremely bittersweet.

And I've, I've said all of this to you off camera, but like, going to miss you, man. Like, seriously, like, we have, like, had the most funnest times. I've had the most funnest times ever on this show. And I'd be lying if I said that, like, you know, the new version would be, would ever feel the same. I don't think we can ever replace you. But the intention of the new version of this show is that we maintain that core kind of like DNA. And, and that, And that's, you know, it's going to be me for now. And I'm going to try my hardest to meet the very high bar that we, you and I set on this show so far. And hopefully, hopefully bring the type of content and insights and sometimes very unhinged takes that you guys have been used to listening to.

And I want to emphasize the point that you just made, Josh, which is like the loyalty and outpour of support that we've seen from you folks just over the last couple of weeks has been. insane. You said it was three weeks. Josh, it has felt like three months. I don't know about you, but like, it has felt like an eternity. And there have been times where I'm like, I get these DMs and I'm like, I really want to explain what's going on, but like I can't. And this is really difficult thing where we're still trying to work through some operational challenges. But yeah, like, it's going to be a new version of the show. And I'm super excited to do it. I hope you guys will join me and us and producer Luke, who's still behind the scenes joining us on this new thing, forwards as we kind of put out more content and capture the frontier. But the cool part is we've always

said on this show, we've always kind of been like this armchair critic or this armchair expert that has been yapping at you guys. It'll be nice to have an official subject matter expert in the form of Josh, Josh, appear on the show every now and again in the arena, letting us know all the latest and greatest of what's going on at one of the top research labs in the world, which is awesome to see. The other thing I'll say is, In this new partnership, it's very important that we maintain the core DNA of this show, which has ended up being me, us, Luke, producer Luke, and all the creative kind of aspects that come with that. And I just want to emphasize that that is exactly what it's going to be.

We're going to try and maintain that high bar that we set between the two of us and put out content that hopefully you guys enjoy. So you guys are very key and important here. We don't have any restrictions. We can make whatever type of episode or show that we want, and we take a lot of feedback seriously. So we hope you guys will join us on that journey. And I'm super excited by it, albeit a little upset that Josh is moving on. But I'm super pumped for you, dude.

Yeah, I want to explain a little more context. But I also want to share the lore of Limitless because I don't think a lot of people know behind the scenes what actually goes on. How big is the team, how we get things done? Like, everything that you see in Limitless is done by three people. And two of them are on screen right now. We have a very small team.

We have a very lean team that pumps out four episodes a week. And it's myself, EJez, and producer Luke who edits all the videos. Luke is graciously going with EJAS to Yahoo to continue that side of things. And then I want to explain just a little bit of the thinking behind it because I feel like I do owe it to the people to just like share what happened here. So it's like the dream for me has there's been two parallel dreams, which is one creating content, two being at the frontier of technology, all the things that we love, all the things that we do. And then these two opportunities kind of happens within a few months of each other simultaneously. One was to talk about the thing. The

was to talk about the thing while building the thing. And it feels like such a rare opportunity to contribute to a frontier lab in a meaningful way, doing what I'm responsible for is a lot of the content creation and the social channels and distributing videos. And I'll be on a bunch of videos over there. And it seemed like an opportunity that I could contribute as a non-technical person in a meaningful way that can make a difference. And that to me was really important to give it a try and see it through. And we chatted about it. I've all all the faith in the world that after 234 reps, you're pretty good at this thing. And I think we're both pretty good at this thing. And the product will not die as a result. It will just look a little bit

different. And I think that is okay. And we'll both still be creating content in our own worlds. And we'll both sync up when it makes sense. And I think that's like going to be, that's, that's the explanation. At least that's kind of the reasoning and the thinking behind it. It's going to be weird though. It's different because we, dude, so much has changed since we recorded episode one. Like episode one, I think was May 17th, 2025, something around there. I think it was Sean McGuire as the guest. And I remember, like, I was going through a few of our episodes, particularly the new model launch demo episodes that I was like clicking through just to see. And I remember not even, what was it, like eight or nine months ago, we were stoked just to have

like a little sprite on screen running through a 3D world. And that was like the coolest demo in the world. Like, we couldn't believe it. We posted a short about it. The short went viral. It was like our best performing short ever because, holy crap, you can prompt a model to make like a game. And fast forward to today, it's like, dude, if you prompt a model, you'll get like, you're getting like Hall of Duty now in one prompt. It is like a full-blown AAA game. In fact, I was going to ask you if you've been interested about any topics recently because one of the things that I got one-shot it with recently was the reverse compiling of games. I don't know if you've seen this on Yes. But as an avid gamer myself, I've loved gaming since the beginning of time. I still play every day. I got my controller right here on my desk. It doesn't leave my side. People who've been using these AI models, the more recent frontier ones, they've been reverse compiling these games back to their source code, rebuilding them in a different language to bypass the IP laws, and then just allowing you to play them and remix them together. I found this so unbelievable that you can have like Portal 2 with Call of Duty zombies in one. Or I saw like Tiger Woods.

driving like a car through like a Zelda map and I saw like a chess game mixed with like Link and there's been so many these remixes. People are jailbreaking PS5s now like on a regular basis. You can play any game you want for free. And like I was just telling EJAS before I started this that I was recording a video was getting ready to publish it and I had the model edit the video for me overnight, generate the animations, make the cuts, do the sound design. And it's like the progress that we've had from episode one to now has been staggering. And I think we could both agree that the rate of progress is still that vertical curve. So I don't know what the hell is going to happen the next few months, but like, dude, it's going to be busy. Like you might need six, seven,

eight, nine, ten episodes a week to cover all this stuff. Or maybe I just need six, seven, eight, nine, ten versions of me to cover all of this. And people can guess kind of like what the AI generated version of it, because the video models are also getting super freaky. Did you see this? 11 labs? I don't know whether it was the 11 laps thing, but it was this. What were you going to product from Tavis. Did you see this? Where it's like a Zoom call. Okay, so there's this video of this guy sitting down

and he's having a Zoom call with one of his colleagues. And they're talking about how they should like release like the announcement of their product. And she just goes, well, maybe we should just record us speaking as like the video. Oh my God. Yes, I saw this. Do you see this? And then he goes, do you think people will understand that your AI? And she goes, it doesn't matter if they do or they don't.

Like that's just. And she had the. thickest Scottish accent ever. And her facial expressions were like very human-like and she could see everything he could see. So the joke, I guess here is that like AI has accelerated so quickly since

we started the show. I distinctly remember Josh doing an entire episode. I don't know if you remember this. Comparing the personality of how the different models sounded. Do you remember that? Where like, GROC, the first version of GROC was basically like, extremely

brash. And then you had GBT40, extremely sycophantic, agreeing with everything and we couldn't stand the thing. And then we had Claude that was just like just starting their assent to fame at that point where it was like, oh, this sounds actually smart and very reasonable and we should start using this model one. I remember that resurgence. Fast forward to today where now I am kind of using these models in an increasing amount of tasks and just surface area of my life, Josh.

Like, recently, you asked me what I got excited about. I've been obsessed with Mews, Metz's new personal super intelligent. When it came out, I was like, why can we not film an episode about this immediately? It's so sick. They beat Johnny. I have an opening eye out of the punch. They got the device out. How did Zuck do that?

Well, I guess, like, Zuck has built one of, like, the largest, most successful social media suite of products ever, right? Instagram, WhatsApp, Facebook, yada, yada. And so he has all this data as to, like, you know, how people act, what they want to buy, and he can help bridge that gap between them. So using Muse, guys, if you haven't used this, and maybe we should make an entire episode about this as kind of like one of our comeback episodes, but it's like, it is so good and easy to use. And the greatest part about this is there's so much competition popping up now. You've got Open AI last week releasing their version of this called Dots. You've got GROC from Elon Musk, Grock bots, working more on like the

knowledge work side of things. But this era of personal agents is something. that I'm very excited about, because sometimes the model releases are now happening so frequently that, I know about you, Josh, especially as you're working on Anthropic, but like, you kind of lose track of all the updates and, like, there's so many things going on at once and you don't quite know what model to use and when it's maturity good for you. And these personal agents kind of act as the new medium, the new layer. Honestly, feels like Jarvis, dude. I was playing around, or rather, I was watching demos of Open AI's new ultra-mode or ultra-fast mode, where it spits out like 300 tokens per second.

At like 8x the cost. Do, yeah, at 500 bucks because thank you Jane Street for driving up the prices. But they just like, the demo was of this guy not touching a single keyboard and just kind of talking to his AI agent and when he would ask for a product, it would just appear

in milliseconds in front of him. So I just, when I compare this to episode one, I'm just like, we have come so far. You and I have learned so much and I honestly don't know where all of this goes. It's just crazy. It probably just goes faster. I remember, like, the first time I was ever on bankless, I spent so many hours trying to figure out, like, the best intro. And the intro was just like,

everything around us, it was a Steve Jobs quote, actually, which was like, everything around us is made up of people know smarter than us, but like, what happens when they are smarter than us? Yeah. And we are like right on the cusp of that reality happening. And I believe the downstream effects of intelligence smarter than we are is like still near incomprehensible in terms of of how it plays out, but I think there is a high level of certainty that it's here. And if it's not here, it is like very imminent and it is happening this year or next year. And it's really remarkable just to see the acceleration of progress. And to your point, it's like, I think the average model launched the time was like weeks last year. And now we're down to like 10 days or something

like that. And I'm sure that's just going to compress. I'm really excited about the personal agent era. I think having a personal assistant, giving it a hardware embodiment, whether it be through Musis device, the open AI device that we're getting later this year that like, dude, whenever that happens, we need, we got to chat. Like, when we finally solve this. Bring you on. Let's go. We've got to chat about that one because like, oh man, that's coming. And it's this whole new paradigm where it's like this weird as symmetry, right? It's like there, there's been remarkable amounts of acceleration on the frontier. But then there has been a much more limited amount of, of, I guess absorption from the general public where there are more users for chat GPT today than there

were last year, but not by the amount in which the intelligence has improved. So I think that we're at this now with this weird place where the rate of acceleration increases, but the rate of adoption is still a lagging metric. And I think one of the most important problems is solving that lagging metric. And that's done by all the people watching the show. You got to tell your friends about what's going on, how to use it, how you use AI. Like, what are you using your personal assistant for, your Grockbot, your dot from Open AI, whatever it may be. I think that's like a really important paradigm shift. And then the sheer amount of intelligence meant science, biology, if you could break down those things into quantifiable math, like math seems close to

solved, right? It's like we're solving all these impossible millennium problems. That probably creates a really interesting place in the next 12 months where it's like, wow, what if you can actually solve biology by breaking it down to numbers and then figuring it out using, large language models, like, that seems kind of cool. There's just so much stuff that's going to happen. And it feels like the stake, not the stakes, but like the importance of it gets larger. It's like, oh my God, not only can I write your essays and like do your work, but also it could save your life. And I think I'm excited for like that jump to, oh, I don't want to use AI. It's scary to, oh my God, AI created this thing that saved my life. And that's like a really cool thing. So I'm

hopeful that we get that next year and like, therefore we get a sentiment shift around AI as a whole, which has generally been mixed as we've done this thing. In fact, I will say, you Jess, when we started, people were a lot more favorable towards it than they are today. So I think there has been this, like, backwards momentum that hopefully will shift forward sometime soon. Yeah, you're right. There's been this sort of, like, dumerism that has taken over, especially with, like, all the frontier labs calling to kind of, like, slow things down with all these, like, crazy AI agent hacks. But I think very little time is spent on pushing out all the positive advances that we're making. To your point, I do think the gap between what's happening on the

bleeding edge of the frontier, like, for example, what's happening, Anthropic, opening in all these frontier labs, versus what the majority, 99.9% of people actually understand is widening. It hasn't gotten any closer. And when I think back to starting this show, that was kind of the reason why we started because you and I were trying to figure all of this out. We were trying to unpack it ourselves. We were looking for feedback, we were looking for an audience to kind of like give us that feedback. So we were like, let's just film the show. And that's the like kind of like full intent of the show going forwards as well. It's like kind of like trying to unpack the craziness that's going on. Stuff that I'm excited about is, well, as a former biologist, I will say on your point around like

moving from this world of software and just chatbots to kind of physical wetware. And I know Anthropics is actually, you know, working on like a biology lab that has advancements by robotics. and you can plug in cord and you can run a bunch of experiments physically, autonomously. I know it's in those early stages. Like, seeing more of that, like Demis Sosibis is kind of like stepped down

from his chief of AI role at Google and is working on the same thing at what is the name of his lab, isometric labs or something like that? That sounds right. Yeah, just seeing that come into real life, especially with robotics, is going to be such a major trend and theme of 2027,

in my opinion. But there's also a case around fear. Like people are worried that we are accelerating too fast and we need to build this in as constructive a manner as we can. So the same tools that can be used to build all this amazing innovation, solve math, solve physics and, you know, build the cure for cancer, can't also be used for more malicious types of stuff. And I think it's a very reasonable shout. And I think, you know, for those folks who are worried about that, you have a right to be worried about those things. But I guess the case that you and I have always tried to make on the show is that it is

way more optimistic than mainstream headlines make it out to be, and it's our kind of like goal to kind of like, you know, I guess explain why that's the case. I'm excited about the robotic stuff, dude. I was looking at, what was it? There was an announcement from Brett Adcock, so he runs Figer, which is the US Robotics Lab, one of the leading robotics labs here in the US. And they're announcing like their new personal agent called Hark. I got access to it. I was playing around with it last night. It's pretty cool. But like, I don't know. know when this episode releases, hopefully it's out by that. I think it's releasing today or yesterday, depending on when you hear this episode. But like, we see hardware and software kind of

like really merging together. We see models iteratively being produced faster and faster. Dude, the compute Kappexband, do you remember, like, our first episode about this where we were like, these billions and billions of dollars is a big number? Remember when it was billions? Remember when it was billions? And then we have like kind of these leaks, rumors, and like actual real figures from some of the biggest companies in the world. I think between Google, Amazon, Meta, Microsoft and Oracle combined, they're spending upwards of $800 billion just next year over the next 12 months. We see the price of memory still skyrocketing, even though the last time we spoke about it was

about a month and a half ago, and we were like, oh, this might be the top. Like, prices are still going up. Demand is still soaring. AMD CPUs with this new AI agent stuff is crazy. Like, it's hard to get my head around it because every time I think I'm being honestly like a little too optimistic about this stuff and I'm trying to ground myself. I'm like, but the numbers are telling me a completely different story. I don't know, man. As you can tell.

It's not driven by debt. It's driven by revenue. And I think that's a big difference. And it's driven by like real value that's being delivered into the world. And like to your point about people disliking AI, I think like one of the most compelling arguments for it is that like almost all the problems that we face today. are matters or like our downstream of a lack of intelligence or a lack of understanding. Like the reason why we get unhealthy is because we don't understand what makes us unhealthy. The reason why we can't build amazing structures and buildings and infrastructure quickly is because we don't have the materials.

We don't have the manufacturing. It's all kind of downstream of increased knowledge. And as we as a society have gotten smarter historically, we have unlocked new technology like the internet, also like the nuclear weapon. Both of those things are good and bad. They have both upside and downside, but the net net of all of this technology, technological progress is that the quality of life of the average person is far better today than it was for the wealthiest person in the world even 100 years ago. And I see no reason in which that should change. In fact, it should accelerate even more so. In terms of volatility, sure, because there's a lot of uncertainty, there's a lot of change. Change is difficult to manage. But on the other side of that,

it's, well, now we have intelligence that not only could we figure out, but we could use this artificial version that's smarter than us that could think for millennium worth of time in like a couple of days to solve these problems that we could then take and use to improve our life. So I think that's a really cool, really exciting thing to think about is like every problem is downstream of a lack of intelligence. We are now able to generate intelligence at the cost per per watt, per like ray of sunshine on the planet. We can convert that ray of sunshine into thought. And like that's such a brilliant thing. And I think the back. half what comes on the backside of that. It's just this like unbelievable new future that does

things that like we can't even imagine. And this is the early stages. It's like I have to keep reminding myself how fast this has gone. This still is like day one. It's like, oh, remember the internet when you had like dial up connection and you had to like type onto like a message board and it was just text and then you got video. It's like this feels like that time. And there's so many downstream effects. This is a wave that is never going to end. There's like only ever going to be a need to record more of these episodes because there's just going to be so much stuff happening. And I think like it's very easy to have a pessimistic view and to join these groups of people to feel as if you are part of something special. But I think the more interesting place to be is joining the groups who are

focused on making the change happen. So like you don't need to sit there and yell on the internet. You can go and like get in the arena and do the thing. And I find that once you start doing the thing, It's like, people start to realize like, oh my God, wait, this is actually pretty amazing. And this is unbelievable technology. And this is a really exciting future, man. It's just going to get crazier. It's like so fast. The curve is straight vertical and it shows no signs of slowing down.

And my God, what a fun journey it's been and like what a crazy journey is going to continue to be over the next few, like, days, weeks, months, year. Like, it doesn't stop. And it just gets me really excited for the future and all of the cool stuff that's coming from it. I saw this crazy stat from, I think it was the A16Z team two days ago, where they talked about, like, AI penetration across, like, the entirety of the U.S. or U.S. households in general. And the number was, like, 2% in terms of, like, power users that had used AI chatbots beyond just, like, an average Google search. And honestly, it's something that I believe, when you kind of, like, step out of, like, the Twitter bubble and when you speak to people that are kind of, like, just doing kind of normal 9 to 5 jobs, they've heard of the AI thing, but they have, by no means kind of like downloaded or used an open source model or used one of these personal agents or understood like what you could potentially use these different tools for

beyond just kind of like a chat bot. And that just gives me so much hope towards productivity of humanity and where we're kind of like moving towards in terms of like inventing brand new things. Like when I think back to kind of like history in general, the craziest or the hardest challenge that humanity is always faced, is how do we invent a solution towards some kind of a problem? And to your earlier point, with AI, the idea here's is you can just kind of apply it blanket to anything and every kind of problem. And whether it's physical or software, it will eventually be able to figure it out. About six months ago, that was crazy for anyone to kind of like conceive of,

bar maybe like a couple thousand people in the world. And now you have an internal model that was trained for, I think it was 11 days at Open AI, that has reportedly solved, hundreds and hundreds of open standard math problems. And now mathematicians are kind of scratching their heads thinking, okay, one, how do we feel about this? Because we've just dedicated our entire life to figuring this out. Number two, how do we understand what the solutions are? Josh, I don't know if you remember we covered the whole Navio Stokes thing,

like back in the day, right? Back in the day, it was like three weeks ago. Month ago. Navio Stokes was like this millennium problem. There's like seven of them. And if you solve it, you get like a million dollars. Open AI figured it out with, you know, one of their internal models. mathematicians still haven't been able to go through the solution that they created or that the model created

because it's so hard for them to kind of wrap their heads around. So it's like this weird thing where it's like, okay, maybe the humans don't check the work of the AI. Maybe it's another AI. And I think the fear that comes from that is like, well, AI is just going to automate a bunch of our cognitive load. And I think the important part about, you know, this technology is it should be used as a tool very much in the same way that the internet has benefited so many people by being used as a tool. If you use AI as kind of like a thought partner as something to make you smarter and teach you different things, you could actually end up having the opposite effect where you just become a way smarter, way more productive version of yourself in a very short period of time.

And I hope that's what kind of like this show and the stuff that we talk about inspires. That's what inspires me at least. I know that's what inspires you, Josh. So yeah, I think that's basically it. Is there anything else to catch folks up on? I mean, yeah, it's just like AI. AI as a means to asking better questions. And right now it's solving our existing questions. But man, how cool is it going to be when it starts to ask more interesting questions that we can't comprehend, that unlock all the secrets of our universe?

It seems like a reality that's coming. I read a lot of sci-fi, which helps kind of synthesize what this is. Like, Asimov has the last question, which I think it's a short story. Everyone should go read. And it's about the idea of asking better questions until eventually the world just reaches the heat death of the universe. And like everything is a form of intelligence. There are two camps. You can choose to be the pessimist. You can choose to be part of belonging of like this like armchair critic. Or you can choose to like take the more noble side, I think, and fight the good fight and see how this can actually change the role for the better. And that's what I would encourage everyone to do. I did want to leave with some thank yous because they are in order. This has been one hell of a journey. I first, EJAS co-host number one right here could not have done this all these episodes without you. So that like, oh my God, what a run it's been. What a run. It's been. What a run. will be. I'm so excited to continue to do this, to continue to hang out. We're still good, everyone. We live right next to each other. We're neighbors. He can't escape even if he wants to. Love you too, man. For better or worse? We're doing the damn thing. You broke my house, but yeah.

Yeah, we're good. Yeah. And like to Luke, the producer who made all these episodes possible. That dude edited so many episodes. He could probably do it with his eyes closed. He is the reason why we look so good on camera. The reason why we say things that make sense. He is the like the reference check for all of the crazy ideas that happen in our head. It's like, No, you cannot do this. Yes, you should do this. And it's oftentimes right. And I trust him with deciding the topics for so many of these episodes.

So many are gabbled by him. We like, Eda and I will both have an idea. Luke's like, we should do this one. We're like, you know what? I think you're right. He's like totally pivotal. We'll still continue to be involved. And we'll still, you'll see his like hand pushing on this.

There will be a lot of similar themes. And that'll be Luke in the background to Ryan and David, the bankless guys. They're the reason why this happened in the first place, particularly David, who took the bet to say like, hey, do you want to do this podcast thing? Like, I think you're pretty good at it. I think we can make it something special. He believed in our abilities to make this podcast. And he was right.

And I feel so much just like eternally kind of grateful for him for believing in us, for allowing this to exist, for creating this entity that we now call, like, limitless in this show that we have. And without his support throughout, like, overwhelming levels of support. Even against my resistance against it was like so critical it's making this happen. And then one final shout out, which I have to make because, He does. We've published 234 episodes. And that is a tremendous amount of listening. And I don't know if anyone has listened to every single one, ourselves included, except for one person. My dad has listened to

234 of these episodes, every single word of every single one, which is just like this unbelievable feat. And certainly supporter number one. So thank you for listening to all these episodes. And yeah, it's just the last one I guess is the people. It's all the people that have been here for like in eternity for supporting us, for making this happen, for giving us the platform to be able to talk about this cool stuff every single day. And it just like you mentioned, this is not the end. This is the beginning of a new era. And I'm so excited for what that new era holds because if you thought the last 16, 17 months were crazy, like, oh, buddy, buckle up for the next ones. So for all the people who have been here commenting on every single episodes,

who show up every single day, four days a week, soon to be five days a week, and watch these episodes, engage with us, follow along with us, like, oh my God, a tremendous amount of gratitude for all of you. One of the things that we've been in awe about for so long is just the quality of our comments section. Ejice, we talk about this every day. We have the most thoughtful and interesting and productive comment section. I think on the whole internet. I've been doing the internet for a while.

of YouTube, by far. I don't know how you guys found us, but thank you. So, like, seriously, from the bottom of my heart, thank you for making it exciting for us. There's a world in which we get the Dumer people in the comments and they hate everything, and it just becomes this hard thing to do, but it's so motivating waking up and seeing the support every day. And that has been so critically important to making this into the thing that it is today. And that is the thanks.

I feel really just, like, grateful for the run, excited for where it goes. next. And man, what a freaking journey, dude. It's been, it's been like absolutely insane. It's amazing. And I'm going to miss you now. That's like, there's no other way to put it. We are going to miss you, but you're always welcome back to the show whenever you want to come in and be your armchair expert and let us know about, you know, future model releases that we can break maybe before anything comes out. But, you know, I'm excited about this new version of the show. and I'm excited to most importantly keep bringing new folks' content.

It has killed me. It has killed us. I'm being able to put out an episode for so long, but we're back, baby. And hopefully you enjoy this new version of the show and you keep giving us feedback as has been so constructive, if not just thankful in the comics section.

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you just mentioned, like, you know, there are probably some people that have listened to almost all or most of our episodes. We want to hear from you guys. We want to give you guys a shout out because, like, we read every single comment. And, you know, we love you guys. We wouldn't be where we are today if it wasn't for you guys. And it's going to be the exact same case. as we push forwards into the new frontier of this show going forwards. Thank you guys so much for listening. And I got to tell the people where to find us also. So like, I'm not disappearing off face the internet.

Here, handle right here at Josh Kale, you can go follow for personal stuff. We'll be showing up on the Claude YouTube channel. EJS, you have a gazillion followers on X. You probably post like 12 times a day. So that would be his handle. That's where you can go find out about that. And then these channels, of course, will begin to get out. active again. I believe, EJ, as you've been recording some episodes for the Yahoo channel,

it's like kind of figuring out where all these things are going to live here. They'll all live here. Just to be clear. They'll all live here. Yeah, yeah. So you don't have to go anywhere else for that. But yeah, I think that's the update. Thank you all so much for watching. Thank you all so much for being here along this journey. And we'll see you soon.