LINUX Unplugged - 491: 2023 Spoilers

Episode Date: January 1, 2023

We assemble to predict what will happen in 2023 and score how our 2022 predictions turned out.

This is Linux Unplugged, episode 491, our 2023 predictions episode. Hello, friends, and welcome back to your weekly Linux talk show. My name is Chris. My name is Wes. And my name is Brent. Hello, gentlemen, and welcome back to your weekly Linux talk show. My name is Chris. My name is Wes. And my name is Brent. Hello, gentlemen. Hello. Hi.

Coming up, we're about to own up to our 2022 predictions, see how we scored. And then we'll get into 2023. We're going to tell you what's going to happen before it even happens. We're never wrong about these things. No, never. This is a special episode where you can just listen to this episode and skip next year. I always tell you, you just follow up with the next predictions episode, see what happened, see what didn't. Do still download the MP3s though for us.

Yeah, that'd be good. Also, I want to say good morning to our friends over at Tailscale. Tailscale.com, it's a mesh VPN protected by Warguard. We love it. It'll build a mesh network of all your machines. Go say good morning and try try for free up to 20 devices at tailscale.com so before we get into the show let's say time appropriate greetings to our mumble room good morning mumble hello hello guys hello aloha aloha you know what we've got a decent little showing in there considering the fact that this is an off-schedule episode.

Totally off-schedule, yeah. A little weird, recording at a time for the holidays, as it were. And what we like to do for the new listeners out there is, once a year, we like to kind of take a look ahead and see where the trends may be leading, and try to guess at how that's going to impact Linux and the free software world. and how that's going to impact Linux and the free software world. And to kind of keep us honest, we also start with a review of how we did for our last year, current year predictions. I'm nervous already.

Yeah. So, Wes, why don't we start with you? Because I really liked your predictions, actually, in retrospect. I was looking at the rest of ours, and all of ours were kind of like required research and verification. Like we're a little too loose and nebulous. And you just swung like all the way up as hard as you could. And you just you took a crack at that ball.

And they were really obvious. And I like where you're going, but they were clear and distinct. So your first prediction last year, I'll replay from 2021. Your first prediction last year, I'll replay from 2021. I predict that in 2022, Canonical will announce a Flutter-based desktop environment. Nope. No. No.

I mean, they've made good progress on that installer, right? They've got the store, but no desktop. I feel like there's still time. They've got, what, three, four days? It could happen. I guess he could do it on New Year's eve let's be honest though if you're going to release a flutter based desktop the best time to release that would be april fools i could see it coming through in a couple years you know i think that does tend to happen we we set these with the one year timer i suggest to make it you

know have it be fair but you go back and listen a couple a couple years ago and i think more of our predictions start coming true that's true we. We're often early. Because to us, it seems like it could happen any day now. And we get a little overexcited maybe. I don't think this one necessarily starts playing out until Genome starts failing to deliver. Like, when they as a project are no longer meeting what Canonical needs out of a desktop, then they have to move on. And what they have right now is a nice situation where they've sort of defocused the desktop a bit. They can kind of just let the Genome Project run all of that and they can kind

of take a step back and just package it, package it up for their customers, meet some of their customers requirements and not really have to have the huge scale of team that might be required to build their own desktop environment. Yeah. I mean, I suppose in that case, here's hoping this prediction doesn't come true, except, you know me, I like a little chaos. All right, well, we'll see where you end up for next year, but let's review your last prediction. So we'll go back in time one more time.

So in December of 2021, you had a prediction about my laptop. I predict that in 2022, Chris will be using OpenSUSE Tumbleweed on his laptop. Okay. So this is tricky. Because I think you could look at it in two ways. You could look at total time spent on my laptop, which would go to Nix.

Or you could look at what's on my dev one right now, which is Tumbleweed. So like, I kind of feel like you should get it. If only because of how I think, you know, we had that early year tumbleweed energy and then how like, I think relatively impressed we were once again, just recently. That's true. That's true. We looked at it again and we were like, yep, still good. In fact, gotten better. You can tell it's gotten even better since we looked at it.

So I think you got a wiener right there, Wes. Congratulations, sir sir you got one it's been a while i feel like this prediction is also distinctly astute considering he like predicted that at this very moment you would have it on your laptop which is quite the prediction i think none of us had nicks on the radar though no i think it's artificially set in stone he forced open susa upon you oh nev is proposing that this was all part of a master westpain plan i believe uh all is fair in predictions i guess either way it turned out that's right okay brentley you had uh an interesting prediction i think i think maybe we felt like it was a lock at the time. You had one for the Ubuntu desktop.

In 2022, Ubuntu will snap by default another major Linux desktop application, either LibreOffice or Thunderbird. I don't think that's happened. You know, I had to look into it this morning, and luckily they make that very, very clear on packages.ubuntu.com when you search for it. Firefox has a big banner that says transition package, and they make it clear that it's a Snap package by default. And it turns out neither Thunderbird nor LibreOffice have that note. And we haven't heard very much in that

direction at all. So I feel like, womp, womp, I didn't do very well on this one. They spent most of this year attempting to improve the performance of a cold start of applications for Snap. And they made, what, two or three blog posts this year about it? Yeah, the interesting thing there, right, is once they ship a major application that has a lot of users, all of a sudden, there's a lot of work that needs to go into Snap. Isn't that interesting? And so I i think if that hadn't happened your prediction may have had a good shot it seemed likely at the time and if you were to make this prediction again later today i i wouldn't give you a hard time at all i could still see it happening so unfortunately it just was a miss yeah it did feel to me like they were

trending in that direction but i can't predict the future all right well the deck was hot on everyone's mind when we recorded last year's episode, and you made this prediction. Steam's Linux monthly usage stats from gaming on Linux will double to 2.32% at some point throughout 2022. Now, how did this do, Brentley? I know you had to look this one up, too. Again, like, your and my predictions all required pretty much research. But I think that's actually nice because you could prove whether or not it happened. And I remember specifically we chose Gaming on Linux as the source for these things because they can waver from one source to the other.

I did do some research and I don't think I got there. Currently, the best data we have, which is the same as last year's November's data, currently 1.44%. So not the 2.32% I was looking for. Still up a bit. Yeah. Yeah, and now the deck's really just getting more generally available, too. You can actually order one and receive it within a reasonable amount of time now. You know, I did notice that on the last data point,

so from October to November, there was a quite a large spike in usage from 1.28 in October to 1.44. So that's like a 12 and a half percent increase, which is something. So I feel like, you know, just maybe it's trending up in the direction of my prediction, but I think since the data's there, we don't have the data for December. I got to say, I think I failed this one, too. Yeah, it was tough to say. It could have been a ludicrous prediction. It could have been a undershoot, depending on how the deck sales ramped up. And imagine if we hadn't had supply chain issues and they could have produced the deck in quantities they're doing just now, maybe even six months ago.

These numbers could have been in a different place. And that's just sort of outside our control. So again, if you were to make this prediction again this year, I'd kind of find that reasonable. All right. I sort of feel that way about my next prediction. So my turn here, I think I blew this one in a couple of ways.

I'm just going to say that up front. I got the language wrong and I got the timing wrong on this one. But I thought by this point, towards the end of the year, it would be possible for a pay for what you want or donate model for apps on Flathub. I'm going to lock that in. Then I'm going to say that in 2022, Flathub will feature sponsored applications. I shouldn't have said sponsored because that wasn't my intention, but I was trying to make it quick and snappy there.

We do have a lot of progress towards this. I got so damn close on this one. So just a couple of weeks after that episode aired on the Flathub discourse, a post went live. The title was Ideas on Growing the FlatHub Community in 2022. And in there, they talk about hiring contractors to build, amongst many things, payments rails for FlatHub. Just a couple of weeks after that episode. Then, as time went on, we saw a mock-up from a Gnome community member, member tobias who showed what the payments might look like for a flat hub application in line of gnome software we just saw this just a few weeks

ago even this is as of like 19 days ago this is getting shared around this is a little bit older than that but it was being shared around just as recently as 19 days ago so my hopes were high because I was seeing these things get shared. I knew they'd hired contractors. And in fact, my friends, if you go to beta.flathub.org and you look at certain applications, there is now along the install button, a donate button. And this donate button depends on like what implementation the vendor has and sometimes is like to their existing crowdfunding campaign sometimes it's just integrating stripe seems to be there's more experimentation happening there however as it stands right now that version of good home software with with those mockups showing the ability to buy applications isn't shipped.

And on the production Flathub site, you cannot contribute to the individual applications at this point in time. You can if you go to beta.flathub.org, but not a regular old Flathub.org. I like this because this prediction, I mean, okay, yeah, you didn't get it, but it's making me excited for 2023.

I know. You're so close. Just within like a stone's throw, guys. Like it could be like literally next month they flip the switch on this or something. I thought you were going to have this one because I remember that like three weeks later this was starting to come true. And I was sure the rest of the year was going to be enough time to well test that and have it out in production. But geez, some things we just can't control. I know.

And I'm excited for it. And I'd love to see a pay what you like model as well for some of these applications. I know there's a lot of things they're trying to support. I'll be happy with anything. But if I could shoot for the stars, it'd be also some of these apps are pay for what you want. Up to the developer, I think would be perfect. Okay, so my next prediction. I think this one's up for debate, you guys. Again. Totally different place last year than we are right now, and this prediction definitely feels a little old.

In 2022, an open source project will use NFTs or an NFT alone to raise funds. I think this is debatable. There were a couple of different goes at this. What I didn't say is that they'd raise a lot of money. I just said they'd try. Alberto Rodora, I think is how you say it. He's from Spain and he tried it. He minted 314 NFTs and donated the proceeds to open source projects. 14 NFTs and donated the proceeds to open source projects. And the idea was you can fund open source by buying geeky open source related

images that you could use for your profiles on Mastodon and on Twitter and things like that. And he, his whole premise was you get, this is actually from his blog. He says, you get a cute profile picture to use in the metaverse. The community you like gets donations and I am able to contribute more on open source projects.

It is a win, win, win. Others have tried this as well. I don't think anybody raised a lot of money. And now at the end of 2022, it looks ridiculous. And I don't even want the association with NFTs. I do kind of think that there is a little bit of something to this model of you contribute to an open source project and you get something back. You know, you could go to the matrix.org site and you could buy a matrix hoodie and they get a couple of bucks in theory and you get a hoodie. I don't like that model. See that the nice thing about the NFT,

and by the way, I don't like NFTs, but I'm just saying the nice thing is it doesn't say the matrix.org, right? If I could donate something to me me if i could as a membership like a ten dollar a month membership to matrix.org and as a result i had a profile picture that had like a you know a dot on it that said contributor that might be an incentive to contribute right there is a way to incentivize contributions to open source projects where the community members get something in return that's digital then that doesn't cost the project a whole bunch of production to do, like a hoodie. There's a large expense associated with that. But a digital good of some kind doesn't cost the project

anything necessarily, at least once it's been created. And could, in theory, be produced in a pretty automated way. Right. I mean, you already see stuff like special promotions. You get, oh, a limit time. We'll have this sort of swag that you can get, but only if you donate now or whatever. And yeah, but if you did it, you just have to want some sort of little clever digital item that actually has, you know, some sort of meaning to you, even if it's not value per se. It doesn't have to be an NFT to make that work, right? have to be an nft to make that work right like in the eons gone by like i used to donate and get like little artwork badges or emblems or whatever that i could use on stuff it didn't have to boil

the ocean to do it or the example we've talked about before on the show the butter fs tester badge for fedora and that works and the thing is like one of the dumb things about nfts is that you generally just are buying a url to a jpeg that sits on a hdb endpoint that could eventually go away and we in this bear market we've seen several endpoints just disappear and the jpegs are no longer loadable they 404 so that's silly but if what you're investing is a project and you know you want a badge for that project or something like that if that's what motivates you to donate, it's worth it. Because like we were talking on the pre-show for the members,

Matrix.org is having a really tough go at it right now, and they've just had to announce layoffs because they're not getting enough funding. And I'm just trying to think, what could they do to get average users who are just in there using it as a chat app that don't need their EMS service, what could you get them to do to pay? I don't know if it's an nft but something like that so what do we think people tried it i don't think it necessarily moved the needle but it was attempted now the prediction didn't necessarily state an amount of money that

had to be raised but i think the spirit of the prediction was some money would be raised with an nft yeah based on the uh open c here doesn't look like the one you cited for instance i don't think any of them sold all right all right i wouldn't think so you know because who's this guy right it needs to be from the project it needs to be associated with the project it needs to be initiative and it probably needs to be not an nft because that's done i think feels feels a little tainted well chris i feel like had you worded this just a little differently you might have totally nailed it like if it was just not nfts which now we know was a bit of a face and just maybe cryptocurrency in general i think you would have nailed it because that actually is happening quite a bit yeah one of the most interesting initiatives i think is open sets that's fascinating it's funded multiple open source projects uh speaking of that

uh the ref couldn't join us because i didn't tell him until the last minute but joe is going to be here to uh referee and uh make uh amends for his prediction but since he's not here i'll play it and we'll chat about it i predict that at some point in 2022 bitcoin will be worth more than 1 million dollars well that didn't happen. That's a good example of one that's not very hard to figure out. People are keeping records for us of that already. I think if you look back, the signs were there. So the Fed began tightening policy in November of last year after 14 years of pretty easy money for wall street and as soon as that began to

happen and the price of money went up as interest rates went up everybody went risk off and so tech stocks went down in fact this is unbelievable tech lost so far in the last 12 months 7.4 trillion dollars in value in the market we just didn't see that coming that's unbelievable that's seven times like the size of the crypto market and like the crypto market was like 1.2 trillion or something like that and when the when the market began to turn and so bitcoin as the price of everything else went down and especially risk assets bitcoin went down greater macro conditions sort of dictate that because if there's no flow, if all of a sudden money goes from flowing fast and easy to slow, then there's just not money to go into these things. But in that time, to your point, Brent, the Lightning Network grew exponentially.

Boosts have seen major adoption in the down market. When we started taking boosts at the beginning of last year, there was 4,000 podcasts. As we wrap up this year, there's now 10,000 podcasts that are doing the boosts. the beginning of last year there was 4 000 podcasts as we wrap up this year there's now 10 000 podcasts nice that are doing the boosts it's incredible absolutely incredible and of course to be at the top of that list uh several weeks has been it has been very humbling but really good sign to see that really nice to see that continue to grow out that kind of tooling even yeah even during this uh downturn yeah absolutely but i would say nay on that one uh and then our editor-in-chief mr drew had a couple of predictions and this one i really feel like could have could have been a could have been a possibility this

one feels like this one was again gonna happen or just totally wasn't going to be a thing? I predict that in 2022, an attack against the Log4J exploit will result in greater than $100 million in damages against a single business. It seems possible, right? As we were recording on December 16th, 2021, CNN ran the following headline. The Log4J security flaw could impact the entire Internet. Here's what you need to know. But looking into it i found an article that summarizes the last year of log for j news nice and this went out on december 8th of this year and it doesn't really seem to have been a big issue in fact the thing

that they touch on is that most companies have been struggling to just figure out where in their stack they were using the software that was impacted by this. Like they didn't have a good accounting of the different libraries and stuff that they were just using. So Equifax was forced to pay $700 million to settle actions with the FTC, the CFPB, and all 50 states related to the Log4J security vulnerability. That happened in January of this year. Oh, so do we have a potential? I'll throw a link. Yeah, link it up.

Let's link it up. We'll double check it. We got to make sure we get it right here. I see. Let's see. Wes is on it. Wes is on it, ladies and gentlemen. You know, you have to consider January dollars versus December dollars to inflation adjusted,

right? I think you still got it, though, if it was 700 million. Drew had one more prediction while we looked that up, which is an easy didn't happen one. I predict that in 2022, System76 will release keycap sets in different colorways and profiles for the launch keyboard. I feel like I thought this one was going to happen because I thought he had inside information on this one. I think we all suspected that. Yeah. I think this is more of a hope prediction than a prediction prediction.

What we did get were multiple launches. I have here in my hands as we record right now, the launch heavy, which includes the numkey pad and the big USB-C. And they also have the smaller launch now. So we did get multiple launches, but we didn't get any key cap, different like colored key caps and stuff. Yeah, we did. Just not a complete set.

We got some. Yeah, there's blue, but that's not, he was thinking like pink and different colors and stuff like that. We did get, there's like red, blue for a couple of buttons. I've got them here in the box, but it's like for just a certain couple of keys.

All right, Wes, did you get a chance to double check on that? Can we give this win to Drew on the log for J vulnerability? This could be a nice one. Unfortunately, at least not from this FTC article. This seems to be a warning reminding folks that the FTC has and will find people that don't patch.

And so after Log4J came out, this is them sort of saying, hey, remember how much we find Equifax? Well, better patch your ass. Sorry, Drew. It was a close one, though. Linode.com slash unplug. That's where you go to get a hundred dollars in 60 day credit on a new account and it's a great way to support the show while you're checking out fast reliable cloud

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We have one baller boost this week and we're kind of doing things out of order. So not all the boosts are in this episode. Not everything's in here, but we had one baller boost this week, and we're kind of doing things out of order. So not all the boosts are in this episode. Not everything's in here. But we had one really fantastic boost that came into the show from George, and he sent in 150,000 sats. Hey, guys, longtime listener, first time booster and brand new Jupiter dot party member. I'm also somewhat of a crypto enthusiast. And Chris, this boost is for you these sats are actually started life as ethereum and then were swapped through a decentralized thor chain into native bitcoin think of this as an olive branch from

the ethereum and defi community to you i promise it's not all scams and crap coins. All the best to the whole Jupiter Broadcasting team. I can't wait for more great content in 2023. Yeah, I agree. There is something great about decentralized financing. The trick is you start talking about, you know, Ethereum through the Thor chain to the Bitcoin. Like it just I think people glaze over a little bit. So I think once all that stuff is just implementation details and it's you go into UI and you you say this to this and maybe you know in some places that this is really the case you still have to kind of be hip to the language but once you no longer have to be hip to the language i

could see that being available to the masses george thank you i wasn't sure we were going to have a baller boost this episode because we're on a tuesday we still like way out of way it's been a couple of days since the episode just came out and uh so we'll have, I think, I'm tempted to say, guys, when we restart, we should probably consider a feedback-heavy episode again. I know we just did one kind of recently, but because we've been recording out of order, stuff has been coming to the show like email and boosts and comments. And we're recording in order, so they're not getting covered on the show. So I was thinking maybe we might do that soon. I'd like people's thoughts on that because I enjoy those feedback episodes too.

Seems better to address them now than later. That's true. Good point there, Wes. Let's get into our predictions this year. So, gentlemen, you know the format. We can talk about it a little bit, but then you eventually got to lock it in and that's what's going to be held accountable.

So we could talk it out, but ultimately you're going to have to give me a concise lock-in and we'll do that and then we'll move on to the next prediction. And Brent, since you had to go first last round, you get to start this round with your first prediction, sir. Hmm. Let's call this a JB prediction. you will find a tiling manager to fulfill your wish of having not a full tiling manager, but tiling only on specific desktops, virtual desktops, or specific monitors. And I'm thinking maybe KD's been working on this,

so you might find it in Plasma as a home for you, or maybe as a stretch. Maybe New Cosmic might come out and have something like this for you. God, I hope you're right on this one. And so you're not saying I run it. It's not my primary. You're just saying at some point it comes out and I get to try it out. Well, there's the measurable part, isn't it? So I have to come up with a way that we can assert or measure your usage there. I think the thing that's easy to measure is that did it ship or not?

Regardless if any of us ended up using it but is the plasma stuff i know they're they're toying with some of that has it shipped yet i mean you could do with k-win scripts already kind of sorta and i do know they're thinking about building that in i don't know though i think this would need to be a feature that you might actually use right isn't that part of brent's thing here right it's talking about like okay yeah you've had a wish to find this for the last few years. And I, I think that wish will be fulfilled is really the essence of this prediction. Cause you're clearly not using K win scripts that much, right? You know, maybe it's something you install on your workstation upstairs. Okay. Xfinity and DWM can both do this already. This is a little hairy. We got to make this a little simpler, don't we?

I think you're onto something. It's something I try and use. I was going to give it two weeks. Two weeks is like a, hey, I tried it, but I liked it enough to keep trying it. I don't know. I don't know. This is where you and I went wrong before. Because if you just drop the two weeks off and they say it's just one i try predictions easy to measure it's one but if we want to measure how long i use it then we have

to find a way at the end of next year to account for how long i use that desktop environment i also worry that like that could just mean because because he has so many machines right like he can he might install it and play with it for a bit for the show and then he just doesn't get to it to remove it until a couple of weeks later, even if he wasn't using it. Yeah. So I say if you drop off the time thing, but say I try it,

I think that's a good enough qualifier that we can measure. Is that not too easy? How could it be too easy? How could it be? How can it be too easy? If it literally does not even exist right now. Oh, okay.

How can that make it easy? It doesn't exist. And even if it lands in plasma, I may not end up using it. And it may or may not end in Cosmic. Like, we really have no idea at this point. It's not easy. Here's the way to make it measure how to make this actually work. Chris keeps it on his computer.

Oh. Because that's the only qualifier we can use to measure that it was successful. Does he have? Yeah. That's true and if it if it was successful i would always leave it on on workspace two and probably three that's very true well hey chris i have a proposition okay what is it now i generate a nixos configuration with with a pre-configured desktop environment using exponent at the base and then just give it to you.

I mean, that seems like by far the closest to something he would actually try that has been tested. Yeah, if there's an easy way for me to then deploy that on a machine and try it, I'd give that a go. But that would be cheating. Well, I've got time to fool around with that shenanigans. I'm not using X and O, man. All right, Brent, you've got to lock this thing,

and we've got to move on. We can't take an hour on one prediction. So, you ready to lock it in? Well, I think you should help me pare it down first because there's a lot of like what ifs here you know i think what you have here in the doc kind of works if you just tweak a little bit so chris is going to find a tiling desktop manager that does per virtual desktop tiling that he ends up sticking with defined sticking with how do you measure sticking with as we were reviewing before like what about but you know when we review the predictions next year he's still using it yeah that's it okay okay okay oh i like that should

probably make it clear that we're that i'm still using it by next year by next year's prediction episode yeah you're ready to give it a go let's do it okay lock it in brit chris will find a tiling desktop manager that does per monitor or his favorite per virtual desktop tiling and have it installed at the time of next year's predictions episode. That's our first one locked. I'm excited to find out what happens. I love your next prediction. I really hope this comes true. Go ahead and give it.

Give us your pitch. See if anybody has any issues. All right. Yes, I find it hard to distinguish between predictions anybody has any issues. All right. Yes. I find it hard to distinguish between predictions and hopes and dreams. So here we go. I believe System76, or I predict System76, will begin development of an in-house laptop hardware. And the evidence of that will be some CAD designs that are committed to their public repositories, similar to what they do with Athalia.

Oh, this is a spicy one, Brent. I like this because I feel like when you and I and Wes were last at the System76 factory, things were maybe it was a time before. Things were a kind of like it was launch and then on the laptop. But then the whole supply chain thing happened. And I think they kind of went into survival mode. Parts became less available. Not only that, but like availability kept changing from out underneath them. And I think I would guess the laptop just went on hold.

But maybe that's clearing up now. Well, I found it hard to when I was authoring this prediction and pondering it for the last few days, I found it hard to say that they would release it because that feels just super tight considering the environment we've been in in the last year. But to start and really make it at least some public development in that direction, I feel like maybe is realistic. All right. What about they make driver code for it we always we always do overshoot this stuff so what if we did something like that like software related to the laptop is either upstreamed or published on their github well how do you distinguish that from what they're currently doing they'd have to be transparent that it is for laptop hardware, right?

Yeah. Okay, there's a distinction to be had here. My initial prediction had to do with in-house case designs based on the things they've learned around the launch keyboard, some of the aluminum work that they've done. So I was thinking more physical hardware that you touch in terms of

like case designs. Not necessarily a from the ground up sort of laptop. Yeah, but I think this has legs too, doesn't it? The software in relation to that new development. The drivers are probably more likely than the schematics because the drivers don't necessarily quote unquote have to be associated with a particular model but they are indicative of them actually doing something that requires code to be changed to support the product so what about code code related to a system 76 laptop development goes public in 2022 it It's pretty concise, pretty easy to measure. Just got to check their GitHub. Let's do it.

All right. I bet we'll find, you know, if it does happen, I bet we'll, there'll be some sort of news about it, perhaps on a related show to this one. Hmm. Hmm. All right, Brent, lock it in. I predict that in 2023, code related to a new System76 laptop will be released on their public GitHub. All right.

I would love to see that. I really would. I'd love to see that enter the market. Okay, Mr. Payne, I was curious to see what you're going to come up with. What is your first 2023 prediction? I thought it was time to recycle an oldie, but a goodie. All right. I predict that BcashFS will be merged into mainline Linux sometime during 2022.

Wow. God, I hope so. Because it's just like, it's been so many years now and it's getting really close. We're at the final bits. You know, you and I have been following the development pretty closely. You mean 23, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah, I totally do.

I've got 23 on the brain still. And I think that's that's pretty doable seems like just based on kent's most recent updates that seems pretty doable god i hope so i think he's still the only person working on it and i know that one of the things he mentioned in his latest status report is that his main condition for being able to upstream it is to get more contributors working on the code first. Here's hoping that happens. All right. I think you could lock that in.

Let's lock it in. All right. Here we go. Go for it, Westpain. I predict that BcashFS will be merged into mainline Linux sometime during 2023. I hope you're right. I'd love to run that on like a Raspberry Pi, maybe a laptop SSD. Okay.

So you got another one in there for us? Yeah. Here's one I hope doesn't come true. Okay. I predict a vulnerability related to eBPF or IOU ring will be announced that has a CVSS score of seven or higher. Oh, I love this prediction. Wow. Because this is the new hotness in the kernel,

ripe for people to bang on. And with a CVS score, we can just go check. Like, we can go check the numbers and see if they ever issued anything related to ePBF. And IOU ring, there's two different categories, but I think it's good to lump them together because they are the new hotness no more surface area to you know maybe catch catch

something here yeah and they can do incredible things so if you could exploit that you could do incredible things all right all right i have no contentions you want to lock it in all right go for it i predict that a vulnerability related to ebpf or or IOU ring will be announced sometime in 2023, and it will have a CVSS score of 7 or higher. I hope not. Yeah, right. I hope you're wrong on that one. I hope you're wrong on that.

You got a bonus prediction in there. Yeah, just a fun little prediction I thought I'd throw in, because this way we get to check next year and it'll be fun to talk about. I predict that over the course of 2023, the Linux Foundation will announce at least 20 new foundations. I'm going to lock that one right in. I think that's an easy one. Excellent.

Yeah, you've got to have a foundation. Oh, my gosh. They'll probably actually do it, too. Like, I think they did, like, three or four this year. Three or four a quarter, I think, is what they did. It's really something. It's quite impressive. All right.

Well, for my first prediction, pretty easy to measure. I'm going to be really disappointed if it doesn't happen, boys. SteamOS is available for download. The official, genuine SteamOS from Valve. Okay. And like,

is there any matter of like, hoops you got to go through? Do you have to like have any count? Or is it just like a website's there? I can go get an ISO like we're used to for most distros. God, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if they make you like log into your steam account or

something, but I don't know if I want to include that because once the ISO is out there, it's out there. Well, you're assuming it's going to be an ISO. It might not be because the way that they've designed steam OS, I don't think it's particularly amenable to being an install. Maybe,

maybe, maybe. So like an ISO or amenable to being an install ISO. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. So like an ISO or just like a disk image? A way to get it is what I'm thinking. They have to. Otherwise, there's just going to be more community spins. We already know a couple that are out there. And if they don't release it officially, the community is just going to take matters into their own hands and it's just going to grow.

Is that a bad thing? No. But if you put your corporate strategy hat on, I don't think it is a good thing. I think the reason why you create SteamOS is because you want to create a reliable common platform that game developers can know and trust. And the best case scenario is that as many people are using that target platform as possible. And if you start having a whole bunch of fragmented different versions with slight differences in implementations, I think that's bad for Valve and what they're trying to accomplish here.

And the only way to get ahead of that is to release SteamOS in time to prevent that from happening. And they've already are a year behind. There's only one way to find out, I think. So yeah. Should I lock it in? SteamOS is available for download, you think? You will have to define SteamOS 3 because SteamOS 2 is available for download, but it's the Debian-based version.

All right, I will make that clear right now. I predict in 2023, Valve will make their Arch-based SteamOS monster available for general download. I hope. I'd love to get my hands on that. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so this next one just seems like it's kind of, you know, I'm looking at the trends. This is where maybe drew in sideways with the log for J vulnerability,

but I'm looking at the trends as we, uh, looking at the trends as we round out the new year or this year, whatever the hell it is. And, uh, it seems like some sort of GPT-inspired command line is going to get released. Some sort of CLI tooling using the GPT-3 or GPT-4, I don't know what it'll be at the time,

backend to try and make your command line experience better and easier than ever. And guess what you're trying to write and help you auto-complete your bash. And it's just going to be the best thing ever and it'll be generally available start probably as a beta and then you'll install this and it'll become like a shell or something it'll be some sort of cli tooling to help aid your command line adventures and it's going to be powered by gpt3 to have kind of a conversational thing so instead of saying you know ps, PS-AUX, you'll just say, what are my running processes?

And it'll come back with a PS of your running processes. And I think, I don't know if it's going to take off. I don't know if it's going to get more than 10 users, but I think somebody is going to give it a go because there's going to be a lot of stabs at trying to integrate this into our tooling, I think. So you mean like Houston, the GPT-3 based AI terminal assistant?

Is that really a thing already? I think it's going to be. This is a post-diction. So it's a category, obviously, for 2023. It's clearly going to be a category. I wonder. It got a commit two hours ago. I got an alternative.

Really? Okay, so I think it's going to be called the conversational interface for the command line or something like that. What do they call it? This is, I did not know about Houston. Does that disqualify my prediction or could we see more? And if we see others develop and the prediction still, I think you need to refine your prediction into something a little bit more over the moon. It's a little, it's a little tricky. This does seem to be quite, Houston does seem to be quite, Houston does seem to be quite similar

to what you've predicted. And there has been a lot of other sort of, I could see where Neil's coming from, like if you got something designed around that and ships a whole application package, it's not just something you, yeah, like it's not just a little additional thing that you run in your bash shell,

it's a whole new interface that you're using. I know there's been stuff like Warp that has its own terminal, something like that, but designed around whole new interface that you're using. I know there's been stuff like Warp that has its own terminal, something like that, but designed around it. And that could be it. It seems like the reason why I didn't want to make it a standalone application, but maybe I'm wrong, looking at Houston as a thing, so maybe this is fine, is my thought was it's a lot of the models.

It's a lot to download and install locally. Whereas if it was something you installed on your box that connected to a cloud instance, it's actually running all the modeling. Sort of like when you do voice dictation on your phone, how sometimes it does some of that locally and sometimes it's actually uploading to the cloud and doing the dictation in the cloud

and then sending the results back to the phone. That's what I would imagine something on the command line to do tooling would be like. Yeah, I think that's what these are doing. Okay. Yeah, because you've got to have an open AI key. Here's one that you'll like this. Please, please CLI, PLZ, uses GPT-3,

and it's written in Rust. Really? Yeah. Oh! Well, now we have to try these in a future episode yeah that would be interesting so i could just kick this prediction to the curb i don't mind getting rid of this one either uh because this seems like it's already happening i you know what by the way my workflow for this which is all offline which is really great is i installed the next cloud notes app

on my uh pie cell 7. And then just when I thought of something, I opened it up, took the note in there. And then when it came time to put them in the doc, I went and opened up the text file on the NextCloud web instance. And just copied it right over. Yeah. Super nice. That is nice. Worked real good for capturing my notes and my thoughts. Okay. How about this one? How about I take a different track? Because I do have an alternative prediction in here. And that is that we'll have an open AI search engine to compete with Google that's available to anyone. No account required.

You go to something that's like a short word, .com or whatever, and you just do your search there. No API key, no account required. It's just a general open to the public, perhaps labeled beta, open AI search engine. So something that could function as a competitor, even if in beta, to Google, Bing, etc. Yeah. If you went over to chat GPT right now and said, who makes the best brand of motor oil?

It would tell you who makes the best brand of motor oil. If you go over to Google right now and ask it who makes the best brand of motor oil it would tell you who makes the best brand of motor oil if you go over to google right now and ask it who makes the best brand of motor oil at best it's going to give you a list of five or six maybe some some advertisements and some blog spam and people want the actual answer and people that are not computer users already ask google things in conversational prompts so they're already doing it that way. And if you ask ChatGPT a question, generally, I don't know if it's right or not, it'll give you the answer. And you can ask it about brand information. You can ask it about best reviewed. You can get specific.

And it correlates all those different reviews. It looks at the stuff and it gives you an answer in a way that Google just simply can't. Are you trying it right now? Okay, Wes is trying it right now. Are you asking if what's the best brand of motor oil is i've never tried that search but chris i asked it's woo from alpha assuming motor oil is a material input interpretation texico ec eco sae brand name blah blah trade blah, blah. Trade name is Eco. Description is Motor Oil. It gives you all the information, not specifically in a text result,

but it does it. A competitive, alternative, preferably open source search engine product that uses this kind of technology to give human comprehensible answers to human comprehensible questions.

I'd do that, but it's just not going to win. I'm here to win. I'm bringing my egg in. No, you're here to shoot the moon. No, no. You're not here to win. No, I got to win this one. He's got vision and drive.

Listen, I could take a couple of years of losses, but I want to win. I want to win next year. And I think an open AI search engine is going to happen. I just think it's not going to be open source. In fact, I think, I don't, this is not my prediction, but I expect looking at the trends over next year, the license of a lot of this technology and the backend license in particular is going to become more and more of a hot topic because they call themselves open AI. How do I get the models?

Anyways, what do you think, Wes? An OpenAI search engine open to the general public, perhaps under beta, but available to the general public. Should that be my prediction instead since we killed my other baby? I mean, that works for me. Oof!

Jeez, the things a guy's got to do around here. All right. I predicted 2023, an OpenAI search engine will be available to the general public. We'll see. We'll see.

I'm exhausted. It's, you know, making good predictions. It's a lot of darn work. Yeah. All right. So Neil,

I want to give everybody the chance to get one prediction in because we could otherwise go forever. So do you have a top prediction for 2023 that you'd like to slip into the show? Yeah, I'm going to shoot for the moon and it might or might not happen, but let's go for it anyway. I predict that in 2023, Canonical will announce that Ubuntu will use ButterFS by default after choosing to deprecate and retire the ZFS integration that they did this year. That's a good one! All right. I think all three of us wish we would have called that one.

That's a good one. Dang it. Yeah, you're right. They've got to be right because they've been slowly, quietly backing away from their ZFS tooling. They don't seem to be investing in that anymore. They just, they filed a launchpad bug in the spring, just before 2204 launch, to remove ZSYS from the system and remove the integration from Subiquity and Ubiquity.

So my thought is that, well, you know, we talked about like, I will be a happy camper when Ubuntu adopts Butterfest. I really do think that maybe next year they might actually do it. That'd be nice. Let's hope so. Yeah. I mean, we've seen it before.

They, you know, they pivoted to Wayland. They jumped from Upstart to SystemD. It's possible. It's totally possible. All right, Dev, give us your prediction. Okay. All right, Dev, give us your prediction. Okay, so in 2023, JB will deploy on a server somewhere,

whether it be a physical server or VPS, free BSD. I like it. I like it. That is shooting for the moon right there, I tell you what. I wonder what the, I guess, you know what? If we did it in the course of content to do a comparison or something like that in a show, that would count. That would count. And I could see that happening. Yeah. Sounds fun, actually.

That's a super easy one to win. Dang it. Dang it. Dang it. Bybitten, you have a prediction. Give it to us. In 2023, an AI text-to-prompt engine will be used to configure Linux systems. I think you could see that.

People are already almost writing entire automations in Home Assistant using ChatGPT, which I really want to play with that, because that could be a great way to get started with writing automations. And that's all just YAML, right? It's just kicking out YAML, and I guess it's just read probably thousands of examples online. We've made YAML so bad that now we need the machines to write the YAML for us. Yeah.

Before I was just copying and pasting from Stack Overflow. So maybe this is better. So I wanted to cover a couple of trends that we kind of have our eye on that didn't really make it into a prediction, but I think are just interesting to talk about. And I would imagine we'll continue over 2023. Noster clients may be showing up for the Linux desktop. Noster just got 14 Bitcoin from Jack Dorsey, and it's a decentralized social media protocol, I guess. I think that Noster

basically stands for notes that are relayed, something to that effect. I think the other trend you're going to see is just a continuation of decentralized front ends to centralized services. An interesting example of this is Knitter, which are self-implemented Twitter front ends that allow you to view Twitter threads logged out. And when one gets shut down, four more pop up. And it allows you to kind of jump into maybe a topical discussion that you're interested in without having to participate directly in the Twitter ecosystem.

Another example, Google search, W-H-O-O-G-L-E, is a self-hosted, I want to cover it on the show in the future, a self-hosted Google front end that anonymizes your Google searches. So you run this on your LAN, you go to that web page and do your search. It's kind of doing like this backend Google search for you and then delivering you the results. Another example is libreddit. Same idea. It is a web hosted front end that you run on your land that on the backend is going and retrieving the actual subreddits you want to view and displaying them to you. And so it's a way to kind of gain a little bit of privacy and reduce the tracking and reduce all the crap they're running on your machine while still participating in these really popular centralized services. Right. But get a little bit more control over the delivery and how you interact with it, which is important. Another service we've seen a lot is NVIDIUS. It's been around for a while. But Chris, you challenged me to trying this lib redirect plugin for Firefox, and I'm

sure it's available for other browsers. And it's been fascinating to sort of browse the internet with this thing. It broke a few little things, but for the most part, Chris, it's been pretty good. Yeah, that's a good example too. That shows you a whole litany of services that have kind of been stood up as alternatives or redirects. And I think decentralization in general is going to continue to be a big term that we just see kicked around by people that were never saying decentralization before. And I think you're going to see it manifest, of course, in social media. But I think the logic around social media and the issues with centralized platforms will begin to take hold. People are going to realize that Twitter is a 1.0 of social media. Anything centralized like Twitter is always going to inherently have

flaws and biases. Could be for some periods of time in one direction, and then it radically flips to another direction. There's always going to be a constant source of friction there because it's controlled by a central group of people and it's trying to reflect the world of decentralized opinions and ideas and cultures it's just never going to work it's a flawed design and i think as people begin to realize that more and more people will understand and appreciate the value of decentralizing these services and having decentralized communities and uh they'll start advocating for decentralization a lot more, and I think that's going to be a great thing.

And we'll be sitting here the entire time going, that's what we've been saying the whole time? Yeah, that seems like a prediction that will definitely come true. Bitwarden.com slash Linux. Go there to get started with a free trial for a team, or as an individual, try it for free. Bitwarden.com slash Linux. Bitwarden is the easiest way for yourself or a business, maybe an open source team to store, share, and sync sensitive

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I went from Windows NT4 to OpenSUSE 9 or 10. Can't remember exactly, but it's been a while. And they also added, I would send a boost in, but I haven't quite figured that out yet as truck driving is a 24-hour job. It sure is. Sure is. Thanks for the feedback TuxGearJammer. Wow. Only ever using one distro? That sounds like paradise in a way. Yeah. So simple. So clean. Everything's just an open-source-like world. It's all in that world. Joss wrote in, I heard recently that you were looking for an alternative to meetup.com. For about three years now, my lug in upstate South Carolina Linux users group has been using get together. That's get together dot community.

And we really enjoy it on their website. They say get together is an open source event manager for local communities. They host their service for free and their BSD license. Python code is available on GitHub and in the about link. You can find all the information there. I especially like that the meeting descriptions can be written in Markdown. Oh, that's nice. We did try it. We tried it, the barbecue that we did last year in January. Ah, right. We used get together as a test and there was a lot of complaints. So we didn't use it again. Yeah. I wouldn't mind looking

at it again, especially if we could self-host it, because one of the key things we'd like to see is a way for community members to self-organize their own meetups. Yeah, maybe we can't go, but that doesn't mean you all can't get together. Every single meetup we go to, this following series of events happen. A group of the people at the meetup decide,

we need to do this all the time. Let's meet up all the time, even if the JB crew isn't here. Oh yeah, oh yeah, we should do that. Oh yeah, yeah, let's do that that oh yeah yeah let's do that oh yeah let's do that if at that point in time in the conversation we could say go here to this url and organize it right now yeah that would just be the best it would happen but what what ends up happening is four out of five times they all just kind of drift and it doesn't happen go back to your lives you know the moment of the magic is lost to some credit though i was just peeking in at the uh

west coast crew in the matrix chat room and there has been some self-organizing meetups going on in there so that is actually happening it's pretty great to see uh yeah we'll look at it again i think you know because otherwise we're gonna have to like build our own damn thing and now it is time for the boost. Mayhem amongst many boosts this week, but boosted with 2023 sats and said certain political events over the last couple of years will have a bump on the number of VPN commercials. I'm seeing have had a bump and I'm putting my 2023 sats on an increase in privacy considerations for normies to quantify. I'm guessing a healthy 20% increase in password managers, VPNs and related company revenue. Interesting. Yeah, I don't know if any company is going to have 20% increase in revenue over 2023.

I have to be honest with you. That would be a remarkable year for 2023. But I do get your general gist, which is as we have these major breaches, we get a whole new round of users that all of a sudden care about their privacy. Like for me, even though I've talked about it for years, that New York Times article about the dad taking the pictures of the kid crotch for the telemedicine. Changed your life. I could take a picture of a kid crotch.

Who knows? Haven't yet in 13 years. But you never know. And I don't want to get my old Google account shut down. So now I'm off. I'm off. So everybody has their moment. SoulTr trust came in

with 2023 sets i predict youtube will begin charging for 4k videos spicy this is a good one i've heard from multiple providers that their bandwidth costs are going up that like somewhere in the stack low in the bowels of the, somehow switches that they've owned for 15 years are all of a sudden costing them more than they ever have before. Have you seen this kind of in the world that you work in? Have you seen an increase in, like, costs for, like, hosting providers and bandwidth providers and CDNs? Because I sure am seeing it for the stuff we do for JB. Yeah, I suppose so, although it's a little hard to tell with the general rising prices i suppose yeah youtube has already announced that they're blocked that they're locking it behind a premium paywall wow so it is happening now i don't know when this boost came in i didn't grab the

date but uh maybe they work for youtube they sent it in before youtube announced it norcal geek boosted in with 2023 sats i predict another major linux distribution besides open sus or fedora will release an immutable based desktop os oh that would be pretty cool i'd love it to be an arch based does does steam os count here i was gonna say norcal you and i could both win here if uh if steam os comes out that's uh yeah let's go sammy boosted with 42,023 sats keep the change you filthy animal it's a big one thank you sammy greetings lep crew long-time listener first time booster here's my prediction with continued reduced raspberry pi supply a new sbc takes the helm as the mv The Latte Panda and Odyssey designs with coprocessor microcontrollers are really good candidates

for this. I'll tell you what I've been telling people at the family meetups, at the family events over the holidays. Odroid 3, baby. This actually happened. Multiple people came up to me and said, Chris, I can't get a Raspberry Pi. They're like over a hundred bucks. What's going on?

And I said to them write it off give them another nine months go get an odroid intel based processor modern enough adam cpu got quick sync in there and you ready for this one and they say what and i say to them two sata ports and they say no and i say not only that mvme slot and they say, no. And I say, not only that, NVMe slot. And they say, what? And I say, two SATA ports and an NVMe slot.

No SD card. And they're sold. Every time. You've come a long way on your journey. I know. It's like you've rediscovered ports. I know.

And Intel processors. Yeah. And Atoms. Yeah, I know, I know. At this point, you're going to need an Odroid promo code. That's a great idea because I'd love to have a couple more myself.

I'd love to get it on a discount. Marshall Miller boosted it with $0.2023. I predict there will be a new fork created for each of these project mispronunciations. What I like about this is if Marshall's real serious about this prediction, they could go fork themselves. They could. I'd like to see a genome repo that just mirrors the upstream one and just changes notes on pronunciation and spelling.

I have a proposal for you boys. For the new year. What do you say we knock all the shenanigans off and we just stick to the basics, the goodies? Debian, Genome, and the Dave file format.

I feel like those are our strongest. It's getting a little out of hand. And you know what? Out of respect to Genome and Debian, because we all know the story of Debian is the founder loved bees. And so the founder's wife loved bees. And his name started with a D.

So next you're going to tell me it's Debian new Linux. No, Linux. Everybody knows that. Debian stable. How do you feel though? Like can we just keep it down to the essentials? Keep it straight. You got your Dave file format. Everybody knows what a Dave file is. We don't need to explain that.

Clearly, you know, we don't want to mispronounce that. And Debian. And we just keep it simple for 2023. I'm in. I could accept this if we also do giraffe you know s i'd be okay with that okay all right that's a good negotiation sure sure i'll accept it uh all right moving on i thought we'd round out the prediction boost uh with a couple of messages from the show mascot, the Golden Dragon comes in with 10,000 sats. In 2023, I predict that Immutable Distros will gain a ton of popularity. Another Immutable Distro. All right.

I could see it because, you know, we've been talking about my kid's computer and what I want to do there. And I'm really tempted just to put an old Amoots on there. Hit them up with the Amoots, you know. I did manage to get Fedora sleeping and shutting down. That took about two hours of pulling out different software and disabling virtualization and fixing all kinds of things, but it's there now. So the Fedora install continues.

The Golden Dragon took a dark turn, though, with what he calls his small dark prediction. He says Matrix will abandon the FOSS model soon. Oh, boy, I hope not. I know. And you know what? When I saw that boost, I hadn't seen the blog post from the Matrix Foundation where they're talking about the layoffs and not making enough money. And, you know, I hope they come up with something that's palatable for regulars because we are just not the right customers for any of the Element-hosted services.

And I don't want my support for something like that to be through Patreon. And I don't want to spend $100,000 to become a member of the Matrix Foundation. But I like what they're making and I want them to continue. Yeah. Then the Golden Dragon rounded it out

with a good old classic row of ducks. He says, I'm really glad I joined this community. This has been the most welcoming community that i've ever been a part of to me boosting is a small way that i can make a contribution to a podcast that's made a great impact on my day-to-day thanks for another great year of podcasting and here's to another year well thank you dragon thank you thank you we look forward to many more years with you yeah thanks for kicking off the duck meme in the booth, too. That's been a lot of fun. All right.

So that's the end of our predictions episode. We'll revisit this in a year. Seal them up. Seal them up. Put them somewhere safe. See how we did? Put them up on the shelf. And then we have to hold ourselves accountable.

That's part of the deal here. Yeah. We don't want anyone sneaking in, you know, mid-year predictions or anything. Yeah. Yeah. Although I have thought sometimes it would be kind of want anyone sneaking in mid-year predictions or anything. Yeah, although I have thought sometimes it would be kind of fun to do a mid-year checkup or like renew them.

Oh, okay. Because things have changed. Right. See if I need to have a hit already. I feel like I should have predicted Flathub goes with paid apps because that seems like it's a lock now. Anyways, we'll see about that. Join us next week. We're back on our regular Sunday time over at jupyter.tube at noon pacific

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