LINUX Unplugged - 609: We Used to Be Friends

Episode Date: April 7, 2025

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Nuclear Launch Detected Hello friends and welcome back to your weekly Linux talk show. My name is Chris. My name is Wes. And my name is Brent. Hello gentlemen. Coming up on the show today we challenge each other to get one of the best games in history working on Linux and then pit us all against each other to fight to the death. Then we'll tell you a bit about my new retro handheld gaming device that just came out and if you should get one, it's pretty cool. And if we have time we'll get into some of the technical reasons why games

still never gonna quite work on Linux, there's just gonna be some games you're never gonna play. But don't worry, we'll round it out with some great boosts, some excellent picks, and a lot more. So before we go any further, time appropriate greetings to our virtual lug. Hello, Mumble Room. Hello. Hello, Chris Hedges, and hello, Brian.

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Because we could stream Saturday. We could definitely have stuff on the stream all day, but we don't want to necessarily set it up if people, maybe you take Saturdays off or whatever it might be. We will of course be live Sunday. We'll have our traditional Sunday live stream at Linux Fest Northwest. And then Wes has a talk in HC204 at 1 30 p.m. after that. So there is things coming up on Sunday and we'll be live for part of that in our regular 10 a.m. time slot. But if you'd like to tune into a Saturday live stream, let us know. Go to the poll in the show notes and vote please. And we are still raising funds.

We have a couple of trips coming up. We have the bus trip. We have Linux Fest Northwest and Red Hat Summit and then later in the year Texas Linux fest and we're trying to get some good high quality headsets the SMD or I'm sorry the HMD 26 is from Sennheiser, which are very pricey but good quality and We're trying to raise some sats via boosts to purchase those before the event comes up, which is like this week So really it's like this week You got to get them in because I got to get the orders in.

So if you'd like to help us with the with the road gear fund, send us a boost and support the show. So we're finally doing a game night on the show. We don't talk about gaming much. And if we're going to finally do it, it felt like we should do the absolute best video game. And we should try to get the best video game working on Linux.

Of course. I mean, and we don't wanna do things in the wrong order, right? No, I mean, wait, what, us? We would never, we would never do things in the wrong order. Saturday before the show, four men assemble to conquer the galaxy. It's StarCraft time. Before we can play though, we got to get it working on Brent's system.

What? Hey, why is it always me? We were going to ask you that. Well, to be fair, you were traveling. Oh, right, he has an excuse this week. Yeah, well let him have it. Oh, I have a script here of several excuses if you need them. You've got Lutris, right? Yes, that was great advice, thank you.

I know not what Lutris is, but you will tell me, right? Well, you could think of it as like a free game, a multi-game library, so you can put multiple different game libraries in there, sync them to Lutris, and install them. Like, for example, you can go to their website, and they have a massive library of games, and then little installer scripts that Lutris can run and execute,

and kind of just set everything up for you. That's so great. That sounds like exactly what I need. It is kind of nice because StarCraft 1, which we're playing, is a Windows game. And so you do need a wine environment and you need a Battle.net software launcher and account and all that kind of crap.

And so Lutris helps you get all that going. Or if you're on the Lutris site, you could just search for StarCraft there and pull down the, but it's probably, if you're in the app, yeah, hamburger menu away. Okay, I'm seeing many options here. Do you have a games option? Yeah, you just want. OK, I'm seeing many options here. You have a games. Yeah, you just want the battle.net installer.

At least that's what Chris and I did. Yeah. So add games. And then you want to search the Lutris website, I guess. Yeah, I got Starcraft 98 Mac Windows, Starcraft 64. I hear that's a good one. We're going we're doing the OG Starcraft, which is 1998 Ah for Mac and Windows, but are we trying to get him to do battle net through this or not?

Yeah, so when you choose that one, it'll give you two options and Battle net will be the top. Yeah, I've got any two options here wine battle net or wine CD plus a C&D Raw so that I'm assuming that's if I have the disc. Yeah. Oh, see I just, I just installed Battle.net itself and then installed StarCraft through it. Totally can do that too. That's essentially what this is gonna do

is it's gonna install Battle.net and then you're gonna close it after it's done installing and then it's gonna launch it again and you're gonna log in and install StarCraft. I see. I was under the impression that Brent had already done this. Me too, me too, you know? Hey, I spent all morning thinking I would do this.

I mean, that's at least some effort. So one of the things about StarCraft is there's a lot of different ways you can actually get it installed on Linux. It is a classic real-time strategy game from Blizzard. It launched in 1998 and It's still beloved to this day. It's a huge hit and It's been free to play since 2017, but you do have to have a battle net account

Which involves maybe the worst capture system ever devised. Yeah. Yeah by far the worst one I've ever experienced which I think it's worth even if you don't want an account here, just go try that Captcha, it is life-changing. Yeah, and if you don't want an account, it's better because you can quit when you're bored. And it also would just be great to point to as the worst implementation ever. So we're stacking a few things here. So we have Lutris, which is this incredibly useful game launcher.

That is helping us manage the wine stuff and pull down the files we need to install Battle.net, which then installs StarCraft. But there's a lot of different ways you could go at it. That's the way we went at it. When you say it like that, it almost sounds like it shouldn't work. And yet this was like a super,

ultimately reliable method to have it work. Yeah, yeah. I was wondering halfway through going through this, but you guys were pressuring me so much, I just kept going, but why in the world do we not just use Steam? So you can do it with Steam, but it's a little bit more of a rigmarole. So you have to add the game, run it, and then you can use Proton to launch it, but you kind of have to do like the manually add stuff, because one of the things that really sucks about gaming since Starcraft came out is

Everybody has their own platform everybody has their own launcher Everybody has their own login and we're going to talk about a retro handheld gaming console in a little bit But one of the things has been drawing me to old roms is I am sick of all of this I'm just sick of having to have accounts everywhere And I was willing to go through it for StarCraft. But yeah, because everybody has to have their own kingdom is essentially the answer, Brent. And you can do it with Steam,

but it's a little more manual. But then you can have Steam-managed Proton, which is kind of nice. So yeah, that was our initial thing. But we got to run, actually, you heard it there pretty much in real time, and then it was time for game one. So here we go. All right.

Starting in five seconds. Oh, I'm getting nervous. Mm-hmm. Beep, beep, beep. Okay, so on the menu there, go to, oh no, sorry, the bottom left, diplomacy, where the little handshake is. Click allies on all of us and vision on all of us and allied victory and then accept. Nice.

So Brent, the first thing you're going to do is click that one building you have and the one thing it can create, that's going to be The guys that can like mine for you and build for you Sounds good. Yeah, not only do we have to get Brent with the game installed. We had to teach Brent had to play Mostly me too. I probably hadn't played since like 2003 2005. It had been a really long time Yeah, I confess I had never played it Which is I don't know a little bit of a crime for our kind of people. But I had played a lot of Red Alert. I also have an extra confession,

which is I tried to get my brother to play for me instead because he's played StarCraft in the past. And I was gonna try to just slot him in without you guys noticing, but. Oh my God. He got busy. Yeah, so maybe next time. I will say, I hope this was satisfying for producer Jeff

because he has been trying to get us to play some StarCraft for like way too long. So it's on us for taking so long. And I think he rightfully pointed out at one point that, you know, Brian, if you'd listened to him earlier, you would have been up skilled on StarCraft. I should listen to Jeff more often. That's probably the truth. Jeff was our teacher during this, too.

He had probably the most experience, followed by Wes, I guess. Or maybe, I'm not sure. We'll get to that. But I sat down in the studio so we could record the audio of all of us. And the studio is set up for recording, not for gaming. And one of the things I have in the studio, which I don't have on any other computer, is one of these giant Kingston track balls because I can move my mouse silently while recording. It is actually pretty legit a great little hack for live presentations. So I sat down I said, Chris you're gonna be a man, you're not

gonna complain about the fact that you're playing Starcraft on this horrible horrible trackball You're just gonna suck it up and never even mention it to the boys. I Gotta clean my trackball real quick. It's getting bad. Oh What do you got in there? I don't know dude, but it's causing accuracy issues. Oh sure Excuses begin. Yep. I just spilled tea all over my mouth It's hot tea to the word The excuses begin. Yep. I just spilled tea all over my mouse. Oh, you guys. Oh, no. Mouse issues. Talk about excuses. It's hot tea, too, the word.

And pretty quickly, it goes from excuses to just straight up dying. Uh-oh, I'm under attack. I'm under attack, boys. OK. I'm under attack. They're getting me, boys. Oh, I was doing so good, boys. Oh, you got it.

There's a lot over there, too. I don't even have that many yet. No, I'm dead. I had such a good. Oh, this is happening. I'm in the bottom left. Right. I don't even have that many yet. No, I'm dead. I had such a good Oh, this is I'm in the bottom left right. I'm in the bottom right. Oh no boys We were a little too slow I Can try this end to you? I don't have a ton. It was so beautiful. Yeah, I've got a couple on their way I had all the basic structures.

Oh, you got you got double whammy. Marines are there, too. Both units are there. We were way too slow. So maybe starting as a couple of rookies with computer opponents wasn't a great idea on a fastest map. Yeah, yeah. So we all kind of pretty quickly died and started game two.

Are you guys ready? It's kind of pretty quickly died and started game two. Are you guys ready? It's kind of great. I'm distracted because if I move my mouse all the way from one screen to the other, the StarCraft cursor shows up on the non StarCraft screen. It's kind of great. That's fun. It's just track to the edge. Yeah. OK. But I'm ready. What do you mean it It's not working Chris

No, are you just trolling? I'm hitting go Round two fight What I realized as we started playing is that I just love setting everything up. Clicking stuff. Yeah, you were really keyed in on building the society, which was kind of fun. There's a lot to build. I was really vibing on just making a thriving science-based society and clicking on stuff. I was really enjoying that part. I just like building a cool base. That's all I want to do is build a thriving society.

We could play Sith. That works on Linux. Oh yeah. If anybody that knows StarCraft probably knows how that ended up for me, but we'll get there. First there was some trolling. Hello Wes. Goodbye Wes. Oh, what happened? That doesn't... Hey, that's mean. I'm just saying hi. A little strategy of coming around and just pecking at us from time to time, you know, just decimating a few of our troops. Just making sure we weren't getting too far, rolling it back a little

bit, wasting some of our resources. Yeah, I kind of manage things all day, why am I doing it now for gaming? What's going on here? How did I talk myself into this? Resource management is exhausting. There was always probably the likelihood that some kind of plan would have to formulate because now it was the three of us. We're on an open world map. Eventually we're going to bump into each other as we grow, right? And so we have to kind of start sorting things out. I don't... I have like a very, very, very rough idea of kind of what I want to do, but not really. And then I'm constantly just failing to execute on that as I switch between managing way too many tasks that I'm managing very poorly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think you guys are doing great. Thanks. He's like, I know exactly where everyone is and I have a plan. I have no plan. I'm just doing my thing, that's all. And then, you know, I noticed, at first I thought it was PJ,

but then I realized, once I realized this who was who, Wes was doing a little poking around early on hey I was I was just scouting around oh scouting around with a bunch of really powerful guys okay what they died all they had real quick they were powerful you know the Protoss shuttle really it it's just not a powerful one. But the high Templars, you know, they're not powerful either. Brent and I were playing the Terrans. I think it's kind of an easier one to start with. And Brent, you were really good. You manufactured pretty quick. I also noticed you had a sneaky strategy,

one that I used to employ back in the day, which once things started to get a little more aggressive, you started stashing your workers all over the map. Yeah. In like hidden little spots. That deeply saved me in the future. Yeah. Brent's a survivor. Because I didn't trust myself to keep myself alive,

so I figured I would just trust obscurity to keep me alive, and that paid off. I'm gonna, a little piece of advice, Brent. Those tanks are called Siege Tanks for a reason. Siege, oh. That's, oh, geez, that's cool. Alright, thank you. That Siege Mode gives them much, much better range and much better attack.

Brent started to get the hang of it. Started manufacturing. Pretty sure Jeff regretted telling me that little trick because I used it against him quite a lot let's say. And I realized at that point I would sneaky use some LLMs like off-screen. I didn't tell you guys this but I would get a little stra- because I was like I've never played this before I don't even know like what I could do with these people. As soon as Jeff said, hey, you're missing one of the key elements these players can do, I was like, I need some help.

So yeah, multi-monitor, you can sneak in some LMs there. So I got some strategies. Oh, you clever boy. I should have done that because while I had a thriving, beautiful, peaceful society, it started to become painfully obvious. We're running out of room and I was gonna need to retool Well, my one's beautiful society has had to refactor around war. Thanks to Jeff. Hey, I haven't attacked anybody

except for Wes I mean that's a loose definition However with my limited resources a path However, with my limited resources, a path began to emerge. The boys started talking about something. I had gone kind of quiet at this point. And I was focused on one thing and one thing only. And I don't know if Wes had kind of maybe thought about it, but I was already down a path.

I would also like to point out that I believe you guys have access to nukes. What? Where? Yes, they do. Yeah, Terrans can build nukes. Yeah, so they can be hard to pull off, but the command center has a couple expansions that can be added. They can add to it.

So you might want to have a couple command centers. One of them is a satcom, which can see invisible anywhere you on the map And for a limited amount of time the other is a nuclear silo which then you use ghosts to Aim and fire your nukes as you guys are talking about this. I'm like actively churning out ghosts doing the research I was like down that path, and I'm like yep. Yep. Yep Nothing uh-huh nothing my ass I heard it I just don't know where it's gonna go I don't know what you're talking about I wouldn't make stuff up mmm-hmm Oh Brantley that's my so good that felt good That felt so good You know I once I once I had nuclear capabilities I kind of had to you know see what I could do someone keeps doing new yeah, but they're just at my door You know it's basically my own neighborhood

You know like just a little back door new yeah Back door new basically they're basically my Nevada You guys are just in the space. Now, listening back to this, it kind of sounds like I provoked this war, but it does. Yeah. I was just defending my territory. Damn. All right.

All right, I see that. Talked. Just because they're there at the door. Again. You wouldn't even know it as you if you weren't at the dark So I think what I mean like so why don't you try getting a new kid, you know Have you considered nuking something a little closer to home? That's all I'm saying I mean, I'm not like a little closer to Jeff's home. Oh, well, the problem is is the ghost get detected, you know

He's got ghost detectors. Sure, but if you work on that... Is there? Is there another thing I can do? This is a turning point because this is really like, I am going to solely focus my society on producing weapons of mass destruction. And I think maybe Jeff realized that was gonna be a problem. Now don't cut, now come on, come on, come on, don't come over here, don't come over, come on. I got a good thing going over here. I got a good thing going over here.

I've rebuilt a new, oh come on, bro! Bro! Bro, I don't even have any defensive systems. It was a peaceful society. Bro! It was a peaceful society! Brooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I did manage to get a few of my guys to escape. You should be destroying Jeff's base while he's distracted, murdering me ruthlessly. You both should get on it. This is your window of opportunity.

Oh god. Oh god, I just built that. I just built that. If you want to send some, you know, send a guy down to me, I can let that happen. Oh, it's too late, Wes. It's too late. I didn't have any defensive systems. I didn't even build nuclear capabilities this time.

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That's all lowercase. You go there to support the show too. Onepassword.com slash unplugged. You know, since I was just learning the game, I took a lot of cues from the vocals. And Chris, as soon as you said, hey, I'm gonna head to Wes's base, I thought, huh, that's a brilliant idea.

I can hide some guys over there. Wes seems like he knows what he's doing party at my base and Wes comes in for the save. Can he save Brent's one last guy? Probably not but you know right bring him over to my base What? No, you're gonna We're not that way Or maybe go to Wes's base actually, it's probably safer there you should go to my base yeah I don't know which one's which Wes is down on the right corner yeah go bottom right so weak all three of us cram into Wes's

territory it was tight my guys I got to go super far to get the resources and like weave through all of Wes's guys because Wes really packed them in there. Well, yeah, I mean, I had filled most of my land with photon cannons, so there wasn't a lot of room to begin with. You were welcome, of course, as allies, but... I was actually lucky to survive at this point because, Jeff, I used to love you, but you came to my base and just decimated everything just because I was sieging a little bit. And it turned out I had lost track of one of my builder guys, the SVGs or whatever they're called.

And he was actually trapped behind some of my last buildings. So I couldn't actually move this character the entire game because I had trapped it there. But I guess Jeff never noticed and that was my last, I had like the one unit left and I quickly dashed over to Wes's base and survived. And Wes, thank you for the real estate. I was able to rebuild and siege again.

Rebuild quickly, you did. I focused on nukes. Brent began building a new force. Jeff started getting worried. Nuclear launch detected. I think Wes is gonna have me. He's just got way too much defense I might just have to give it up there's no way I can get through those get to those cannons just a few this is really when the siege set in. I mean, Jeff put up a heck of a fight and Wes brought a ton of carriers.

Holy cow, that's a lot of carriers. Now you're playing how I like to play. Send a hundred carriers, let's go. Come on, guys, come on. Do I have an air defense? Nope. Come on guys, come on. Do I have an air defense? Nope, they got nuked. Alright guys, come on.

Get them! This is probably the moment that was always destined to happen where all three of us begun working together on the attack. Let's have to pay attention to what these guys are firing at. Oh no, siege tanks. together on the attack. Brent comes in with the siege tanks, I drop the nukes. You guys are awesome man. The nuke at the same time as you come in, there's no way I can find it. with the siege tanks, I dropped the nukes. I've been hearing that a lot. Holy cow. Get out of here Arbiter. Over three hours into it, like really, a hell of a fight.

I think the end was in sight around the three hour, fifteen, maybe ten minute mark. It just took some time because, you know, Jeff had really built himself a nice base. You building on my base! You guys are getting in! Look at this! This is insane! I've never seen nothing like this! Holy cow! Oh there's shut shuttles all Templars Send it all in and then I started focusing on resources cuz you know, I didn't want I didn't want Jeff's economy to hold up. UGH! Hahahaha! Nooooo! Where are you? There you are.

Oh, you got him. OK. Not fast enough. Dang, you must have an upgrade on your nukes. Those things are coming quick now. Jeff, you forced me to be a society from peace that focuses on weapons of war. How does it make you feel? Oh, that's a lot of Archons. Oh, that's a lot of Archons. Now I really saw, you know, the sort of twisted side of Brent come out during the end of this battle. Oh, really? Yeah.

Oh, no. I don't really. I kind of blacked out. Brent's upper base is wrecking Brent's upper base. Brent, you got guys there that aren't doing anything up there. It's because I all my rally points were in Jeff's face. Do you set your base rally points straight to the base? Yeah, that's funny. To your base. Oh straight to the base? Yeah, that's funny But it's just cranking out guys and just sending them right to Jeff space the entire time pragmatic My annihilation was swift and complete. Yeah, really the best part though was when the economy collapsed that that felt good

Because your attacks focus your attacks. Oh, there's more No, and that's it. That's it. There's no way I'm just gonna start talking branch just because His base has gotten way too big over there You guys you guys put up a damn fight here One-on-one whatever that would have been fine, but this this is stretchery I Was peaceful dude Same same I don't think that's the name of the game

As much as you want to tell yourself Oh a nuclear launch. Where's that coming from? You gotta go here, of course. How'd you get rid of my lurkers? Oh, the uh, cannon. The turrets. Their detectors. Nice. Yeah, these guys are not focusing on nothing. Come on, at least get one more carry. There's so many down. Oh no, that's it. Nice! Oh, that is it. Nice!

Oh, that is it. Oh man. There goes my economy. I can't even make one more little guy. Now, it wasn't quite it. There was a couple of floaters and you can understand as a society that was now built around creating weapons of mass destruction, I had quite the pipeline, and well, I had more birds to fly

and my society has the view you can't make an omelet without cracking a few eggs and sometimes it's worth finishing them off. Nuclear launch detected. What are you blowing up, buddy? Oh man. detected what are you blowing up buddy actually oh yeah he did I know he blew it into himself or Brent hey sometimes you gotta crack a few eggs. There it is. Good job.

Oh, I see. Are the tides turning? No, no. Yeah, this is where Chris decided... I was just trying to get rid of one guy left. It was worth nuking Jeff's last guy. You know, if he had to take out some of my cannons and a bunch of my units, this was no problem. A couple of Brent's soldiers too, I think. Yeah.

But you know, it was a dramatic way to end it. We captured our immediate thoughts after the game. Well done, gentlemen. Jeff, you only lasted four hours. Oh my god. So looking at the units, Wes had. You did the best of the resources. No cow. No, well not according to mine. I did so poorly.

Oh, total, my total score is higher, but that's because my structure is higher. At the end, I just entirely focused on nuclear capability. I just, that's all I know. Yeah, which was great. What does units mean? Like how are you building that many things? Just constantly building.

I mean, Zerg builds fast. I can't click fast enough. Oh, I see. Yeah, for Terran you have to use multiple barracks, multiple buildings, and then you queue them up. You do four or five at a time or whatever. For Zerg, I can double click, there's these little grubs that are next to the hatcheries,

and there's three of them per hatchery, so I can build three at a time. So if I double click them, I got a bunch of hatcheries, I can click 12 and build 12 of the same unit at the same time in parallel If I it's the kind of game you could literally play for 20 years. Oh, yeah And look at that We just play for three hours three hours and 20 minutes and not a single glitch on any of our Linux boxes No, of course not. I

Even I was using alt tab and I got multiple screens going. Oh, he's looking up strategies. What are you doing on this? Oh, he's on perplexity, that's what's going on. Okay. I definitely have a perplexity strategy screen up. Oh, wow. I should have thought of this.

That's great, I didn't do that either. I actually stopped looking at it, but at the very start of the game, I did ask for a sort of like, if I wanna build a lot of Archons, what step should I take? Now I know, now I know, but at the very start of the game I did ask for a sort of like if I want to build a lot of Archons What step should I take? Well good job boys. All right. Well, so Brent I want to hear your thoughts on it What how do you think the game held up how it worked on Linux?

Getting it going all of that. Yeah, I was running this thing on my dev one because I figured you know, why not and didn't great I because I figured, you know, why not? And it ran great. I would say the most painful part was the setup only because I was unfamiliar with all these launchers and things like that. That's what friends are for, right? To guide me through that path. But as far as install goes, everything was super smooth, no errors at all.

And throughout the gameplay, I kind of completely forgot that we were doing a thing that wasn't meant to be done by the original makers of the game. So total success from that perspective. I understand it's an old game, but very, very playable. I enjoyed the heck out of that and would totally defeat Jeff with you guys again. You were on Nick's OS. You were on Nick's OS as well? Indeed. Yeah. It was kind of great because I just did Nix run NixPackages hash Lutris-free to get started. I didn't even have to install anything really.

So I tested a few different install scenarios with Lutris on NixOS and my experience was is the flat pack didn't work as well. I got errors during the installation of things but if I use the Lutris-free package in NixPackages that worked just fine. So on NixOS my advice would be I use the Lutris-free package in Nix packages, that worked just fine. So on NixOS, my advice would be to use the built-in Nix package. On my Kubuntu slash neon system here, which is a little bit older,

the, Debbie and I installed first, actually got the same errors that the Flatpaks got on NixOS. Ooh. And so I uninstalled the Deb package on Ubuntu, and I actually went with the Flatpak on Ubuntu and that's worked great for me on Ubuntu, it's the Flatpak. So, depends, you know, your success may vary there.

So there's those little weirdness, but that's not anything to do with StarCraft. It's just the state of game launchers, I suppose, on different Linux desktops. I think the game holds up incredibly well. We had all three of us playing flawlessly across different systems. Jeff, what distro were you playing on? I was on Archwindows. Yeah. I was on Arch.

Arch. Okay, there you go. So it's wonderful because really Wine's doing the bulk of the heavy lifting there. And so as long as you can get a good Wine environment and you've got, you know, you can play games. I was even doing it on an Intel Arc system here in the studio. You know, I believe I was watching some of the command line stuff go by and I believe even Lutris was using Proton on the back end to do this stuff. I'm not that familiar with how all that stuff works out, but I think this is, we're so lucky. Can I just say that?

Like 10 years ago, this was just a dream to get gaming, especially more modern games working, but this is, I feel like, the golden age for Linux. We're just getting better and better. Okay, just one final follow-up question here, Brent. Did you have a good enough time, did we convince you to try the single-player campaign? I will say immediately after we hung up like our four hour phone call I was like I should go play campaign so I know what I'm doing and next time I could like you know resist the Jeff let's say. I'll tell you one thing that would be useful is

if you go through some of the initial tutorials they start very very basic very straightforward goals and one of the things they do through story is they introduce you to some of the key characters that have special abilities that you can then deploy in game later on and you kind of understand more about what they can do Chris also offers a paid online class for you know, if you want to base your society around you. Yeah definitely Config cat comm slash unplugged we have a new sponsor on the show I am thrilled and excited to welcome ConfigCat, the feature flag service that helps you release features

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Just go to config cat dot com slash unplugged. Now, with all this gaming talk the last couple of weeks, I think you got a new little something in your hands, right? Chris, you've been teasing this thing, but you haven't really given details. We talked about the older version of this a while ago on the show, these little portable gaming handheld retro consoles, the R36S is what we talked about on the show forever ago.

You can get them on Amazon or other places for around 60 bucks and they come with thousands of ROMs. Well, in March of 2025, the r36 max came out a brand new updated version of it and it's a little more expensive at the moment because it is brand new but one of the things that it features is a larger one to one screen it does run Linux I couldn't tell you much about it it has an arm 64 quad core cortex a 35 processor that goes up to 1.5 gigahertz. It's got a Mali G31 MP2 GPU and it has a little bit of built-in storage 64 or 128 depends on the one you get and then it has an expandable TF card slot too. So you can you know you can load that up with as many ROMs as you want. It's got a 4,000 milliamp battery, which is plenty, six hours of gameplay, lasts forever for me. And it's about the size of a Game Boy,

but with a lot more screen. And Wes, I wanted to have you take a look at the screen, because a lot of the games that you play on this are not actually formatted for that resolution. Ooh, it's crisp though. It is, so it's a 720 by 720, four inch screen. Yeah, Wes is playing a little Metroid there. It's slightly skewed perspective.

Can you see that? Yes, I do. Yeah, the aspect ratios has been stretched slightly, but it's not realistically interfering with the gameplay. I haven't found it to be a problem. However, purists might, and you can pop it into native resolutions. Oh, okay. Yeah, you can pop it down and then you just have sort of a black bar. Okay, so how many different platforms? Am I on Super Nintendo here?

You are on Game Boy Advance. Game Boy Advance, okay, see. So I know it supports NES, SNES, Sega, the PSP, the Nintendo 64, the PS1, main machines, PC, arcade, and a lot lot others. It's a lot of platforms. This particular one claims to come with 18,000 ROMs preloaded. Other numbers say 16,000, so it's, you know, it's suffice to say so many games that you have to come up with tricks to navigate all of them. And they have some folders of popular ones and you can mark favorites. But the biggest problem this thing has is that there's so many games

because you just have to scroll through the giant list of games, which you want to play some subset of. But that's also the upside. You get this thing out of the box. Mine was charged, actually. And everything's loaded and good to go. There's no account to create. There's no Wi-Fi. It does actually have Wi-Fi built in. I don't know what you would use it for.

There's no Wi-Fi you need to sign on to, nothing. You turn it on, you select your game, and you play. That is pretty compelling, just like, oh, I ordered fun game time from the internet, and then it just showed up and I can use it. Yeah, and this beautiful IPS screen makes these games look the best you've ever seen them, and you're not stretching them up to 1080p.

It's 720 by 720, so they they actually they still look pretty good. The fact that you can also pop in storage and add more ROMs is really nice if you have like some custom hacked ROMs. It's USB-C. It's got two USB-C ports on it actually. It's got a power port and then it labels the other one as the OTG port. It's got a headphone jack on it and then then it's got your typical D pad and thumbsticks with a YX BA and start and select. This is where the cons come in. The controls could feel a little better. I don't know if you noticed that they're not the they're not like

a high end console controller. They they're a little squishy. You're a little tight because it's a small device. Right. This is not what Uncle Jeff would want to use for competitive gameplay, right? It took me five or ten minutes the first time I played this for games where you really got to move fast and you really Have to be accurate took me five or ten minutes to get my thumb in the groove, but then I got there Okay, I see it's also got what like four Triggery type buttons on the back there. How are those? I don't use them much except for like some of the games that support but you

can use them for different things and triggering they can hold them down with other combinations to trigger system events. They're good. I don't find that I mispressed them. The new one has more ergonomic grip so I've got the old one here in the studio Wes and you can see the old ones kind of got a flat back. Yeah it's just like a rectangular construction, primarily. Right, where this new one kind of has. Ergonomics may be a hand shape, I suppose, depending a bit on your particular hands, but still. And the new one is definitely taller, too,

because of that wider screen. So the new one's, I actually think, having played them both quite a bit, the older one, you know, for 30 bucks, if you could pick it up, is still kind of the way to go. The keys might be a little nicer on the older one, you know, for 30 bucks, if you could pick it up, is still kind of the way to go. The keys might be a little nicer on the older one, and it still has a lot of games. If you really want the best screen though, you got to get the R36X. It really is something. So the D-pad's okay, they're not great. It's the analog sticks are okay, they're not great. They're definitely serviceable. They're just sort of what you get

for this class of device, right? And there is this silly soccer ball on here that doesn't do anything and that kind of stuff. But when you bring it all together with the 720 by 720, one by one aspect ratio screen that just really pops, the fact that you power it on and you're playing immediately, like I have it suspended right now,

I press one button and the game immediately fires up. It does seem perfect for just taking it on the plane, carrying it in your bag for a little downtime here and there while you're waiting for whatever. I keep it on the couch. And you know, if I'm waiting for the wife or something before we watch, I just pull it and start playing for five minutes and I hit the pause button

and it goes back to sleep. I've been playing this one level of Metroid for like three days. It's nice. It's nice. It's fun. Chris, I'm wondering how the old one held up. You've had it, what, for a year now? And have been playing it pretty consistently

from what I can tell when I visit. How did it hold up from a hardware perspective? Well, about three months ago, I let it go really dead apparently, and I cannot get it to hold a charge anymore. And it won't work if you take out the battery and plug it in directly. So I found a replacement battery on Amazon for like $6 and it's going to be here today. So my hope is I can plug a new lithium battery into that thing and then it fires up and then

I've got both of them. Then the wife and I can both play. But we'll see. Otherwise it's been great and I would still I'd still give it a recommend if you're really, you know, if you really like nice graphics, then I would say go for the R36 max, because it really does pop, but that's still really holds up. Um, and then, you know, you cannot get away from the fact that it's just. It's, it's kind of a conversation starter.

It's adorable out of the box and you can just start playing. You can hand it to anybody. I handed it to the wife. She went through the games, picked the one she wants, spent 10 minutes playing the game. It's really easy to use. And again, you could like say for a road trip, buy a couple of these, take them out of the box, hand them to the kiddos or whoever. They get in the car, they're ready to go.

They don't need a connection and they'll play for a six hour drive. And when they need topped off, you just plug them into USB-C. You really can't beat it. So the R36X Max right now, it'll come down, but right now because it's brand new is $99, but you can find the older version, which I still think is pretty great, for like around 30 bucks where you look for it

maybe on eBay to 60 bucks on Amazon. And again, they come with all the ROMs that can't last forever. That's probably gonna eventually get shut down. So that's why I mentioned it from time to time, because it's such a great deal. And it's nice just having one. And when Linux Fest comes around,

I'll have it here in the studio so people can check it out. Well, thank you everyone for sending boosts in this week. It's kind of strange here. I think he was trying to pay us off. Our baller booster this week is producer Jeff now there's many boosts here the first one I see is a hundred sats for a test you sent in a couple boosts but the second one is the baller it says to the headset fund let's go to gaming yeah all right so we have Zenotic here urban

tear tux cart veloran I don't know what that one he's got the StarCrafts in Gaming. Yeah, all right. So we have Xenotic here, Urban Terror, Tux Cart, Veleran. I don't know about that one. Uh, he's got the StarCrafts in there, of course, for the proprietary. Left 4 Dead is a great one. Payday. Oh, Castle Crashers. Yeah, that's fun. Broforce is fun.

Broforce. Yeah, Jeff and I played Broforce when I was there last. Very, very good. Thanks for the sats for the headset fund, PJ. Appreciate it. Frigolet comes in with 50,000 sats for the headset fund, PJ. Appreciate it. FreeGoLay comes in with 50,000 sats. I hoard that which your kind covet. And just as headphones.

We know what to do with that. Thank you very much. The Muso comes in with 50,000 sats. I hoard that which your kind covet. Unplugged headset fund is go. All right. Thank you, Musou. Nice to hear from you, too. We have another boost here from not sure.

Not sure who that is. 30,000 Satoshis. Rocket roll. And this is another headset boost. Says new headset boost. Who doesn't love new gear? Yeah, hopefully we love them. One arrived, that one that I ordered,

and I'm waiting for the cable, which all these things take a lot of time. So I'm thinking this is the week, Monday or Tuesday, I have to finish all the ordering. The cable requires signature. And while we were recording yesterday the StarCraft stuff, they knocked on the door here at the studio and I didn't hear it. So I'll have to catch it next time, but appreciate that.

WH-2050 comes in with 20,250 Sats. You want a piece of me, boy? Plus one for a Linux gaming episode. I'd like to better understand why Anti-Cheat doesn't play well with Linux. I don't play many games that use the tech, but I know several people that would switch to full-time Linux if they could play things like League of Legends. So we looked into this WH and as you probably are somewhat aware, the primary problem comes

down to these games implement anti-cheat at the Windows kernel level and they are just simply they're simply not a one-to-one comparable offered on the Linux side. Then you add to the sort of complexity. I'm trying to say, Proton could be used as a way to kind of suss out API calls that games are making. And you could even devise a fork of Proton that makes cheating even more possible. And so I think some of the game developers are a little leery of that as well. So you have technical limitations aren't available in the Linux kernel that we're probably never gonna add and

These are essentially root kits on Windows. So let's be clear about that Yeah, there's also they're like human sort of cultural problem beyond the technical problem in that sense I would argue on the Windows side, but here we are and then often when there's cheating at scale that's done on Linux So a lot of these developers are lazy when it comes to this stuff and they just say, well, we won't allow Linux because then we don't have to worry about this problem, which is a real crap, cheap kind of way to go. But it's just the way it is. Now, there are some workarounds being created.

EAC, for example, offers Linux builds, but developers have to enable them in their game. There are some user space anti cheat solutions where you could actually use SE Linux and app armor, but obviously if you have root on the box, you could disable that stuff. So it doesn't really solve it for the game developer. Then there is the fact that there's a lack of widespread secure boot adoption. So it makes it harder for anti cheat software to verify that the system hasn't been modified in some way, like something at the kernel level. And so on Windows, they can verify

that the kernel they've rootkitted essentially is the kernel that is in use. They don't necessarily have that mechanism on Linux unless you're actively using secure boot. And would you really wanna have to use secure boot just so that way you could play a proprietary game that uses anti-cheat root kits? So that's the TLDR essentially of it.

Good question and on topic. So thank you, WH20. Appreciate it. TR, Selby boosts in with 8,000 cents. You want a piece of me, boy? Where the rubber meets the road. Used towards getting the Brent bus new rubber boots, so you can roll on home. Oh, thank you.

Thank you. Yeah, that old rusty can does need some love, which we will be giving it next month. And thank you. Really super appreciate the support. Yeah, that's definitely gonna need new boots. Hey, look at this, a Mr. West Payne boosted in. Oh, me?

3,222 Sats. Upgrade complete. Saying hi to PJ. I love it. Good. Kylo Dog came in with 2,001 Sats. Roger that. I had thought while listening the other day, it would be funny to have a sound effect to boost values right at or just above the 2,000-sat cutoff,

like doing the bare minimum or something like that. We kind of have like a basic pew pew that we use from time to time for like the 2000 set. But I don't use it that often. I just like playing around. Soly86 moves in with 2000 sets. This move. Regarding the sleep mode with framework laptops,

I found that my framework Doesn't sleep when an application is stopping hibernate in plasma Sure, my other issue may be closing the lid while plugs into a dock and then pulling the USB C cable. Ah Confused with a hardware disappearing and what state to be in I could see myself doing that closing the lid and then pulling the cable As I walk away Brent Do you think it could be that an application you have is telling Plasma don't sleep? Considering the number of applications you guys know I always have open, I would say probably yes.

But the real trick is figuring out which one. I don't know where to start there, so happy to look into it if you have any tips and tricks, dear listeners. I think we write a little script. It kills processes at random, and then it just records that so that you can trace it back from there. That seems completely reasonable. Make sure to run it while you're trying to get work done.

Like during the show, you mean? Yeah. Well, Distro Stew boosted in 5,555 sets. Well, I'll be dipped. In regards to signing PDFs, I've had success with Journal Plus Plus for many years, just keeping around an image of your signature. But these days I use Firefox because its built in PDF reader now supports forms and images.

Hmm. Yeah, you got me with that. Yeah, I did use Journal for a long time, but this is an awesome hack. Thank you. That is. awesome hack, thank you. That is, thank you for the tip. Coffee Bacon Linux is here with 5,000 Sats. Reporting in. New gear day, enjoy, loving the show, keep up the great work.

He says, he also meant to send a second sat boost because he wanted to send a little more for the headsets. Little top up boost. Thank you. True grits boosts in with 17,010 sets. Nuclear launch detected. Oh, it's a little announcement. True Grits is officially coming to Linux Fest Northwest. Nice.

Ah, but Grits does have a question mainly for you, Brent. Uh-oh. I think I'm going to do some car camping if possible. Do I need permission from the college to do so? Any tips? Are you asking because I've specifically done this exact thing at my first Linux Fest Northwest and did not ask for permission because I was actually in a car? Was that a UV at the time?

Although Chris did catch me brushing my teeth, so I didn't go completely undiscovered. But I think it's pretty okay. I would say if you're riding a rig like Lady Joops, like we do, maybe you need permission because it takes up like how many? 10 parking spaces, something like that. But otherwise, if it's just a small camping rig,

I think you're fine. Yeah, that would be my approach, is if it's small and discreet, you're better off just probably not bringing it up and don't ask. But if it's a large, you probably shouldn't do it or you need to get permission. That's probably the way to go. Forward humor comes in with a row of ducks. LibreOfficeDraw has great PDF editor built in. Just open your PDF in LibreDraw,

and you can insert a PNG image of your signature in a few seconds, export as PDF, and you're done. Hey, that could be a pretty easy one. I started doing this recently, and I agree, it's great. I realize when we ask the signing PDF question, there's a whole bunch of different meanings to that. One is, which we're seeing here, is just having a photo of your signature.

They just plop on a bunch of documents, which I think is the simplest one, but digitally signing is a whole other ball game, so, which I haven't figured out yet. So I would love some tips on how to do it the right way. SatStacker7 moves in with 10,000 sats. Boy, they are doing a lot with mayo these days. Plus one here for the idea of making all those great AI songs available for streaming.

There's some real gems in there and I would love to browse through. Yeah, the members, usually we kick off the member stream with a custom song. Some of them are hits, some of them not so much, but we'll have more on that soon, I think. And just a general thanks for the great work. Well thank you. Nice to hear from you, SatStacker. Next, High Five Connoisseur sent in a total of 10,864 Sats across two booths.

Well, that's very good, buddy. First one here, here's some treasure for the headsets for your lovely gents. Thank you. Another shout out to the bootleg version of the show. It is the best way to listen, for sure. Join that Jupiter party. I do think we could probably plug the bootleg a little more. There is a lot of show in there.

It's clocking at an hour 42 right now. Yeah, someone has a habit of overproducing the bootleg. Mmm. Yeah. Anonymous sent us some sats to test out their setup, thank you, and Tomato came in with 13,337 sats. Linux or something. Some sats towards a pair of lead headsets for Wes and Brent.

And our last boost from Bronze Wing with a row of ducks. Headphones and gaming. Yes! Great. We're well in progress on both. Yeah. I would love to know how the gaming episode was received too. If you're looking for a reason to boost us 600 episodes we've done two three of them ever and

We really don't know but we'd love to hear your feedback on that This is something maybe we would do in another hundred episodes if you liked it. I don't know In the back of my mind I thought if we can get Starcraft working for us Maybe we could do like a game session at Linux Fest or something like that with StarCraft. Ooh. Careful what you suggest, because you're going to start something here. I know, I know. Well, maybe that's my intention.

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about a topic that only us geeks could love. Well, we got too many picks. So let's start with Brent's. I'm going to say it's pronounced Kua. It's Kua. What do you think? Do I like that?

I was going to say Kua, but I like yours a little smoother. I kind of like yours. So what'd you find? I found this little app just like minutes after the show last week and I've been looking for, I gotta say, probably like a year and a half for a very simple screen recording app. I used to use Peek quite a bit to, as you guys know, record a bunch of bugs. I find when doing bug reports and issues on GitHub,

it's really helpful to even just have a screen cap of sometimes the behavior that you're seeing. It's a really great way to communicate to the developers what's going on. And it turned out in this transition to Wayland, a lot of those tools just weren't compatible anymore. And Peek is one that just, they decided they weren't going to make it anymore.

And it just kind of went discontinued and wasn't really useful on modern Linux desktops. And I have been looking ever since. I know the built-in one on Plasma has been adding this feature, but I don't love how it works. And it's a little, I don't know, not my thing. So I found- You answered my question, I was gonna say.

You gotta give Spectacle at least the, you know, a little dimension. Yeah, Spectacle has added this feature recently and I've been trying to use it, but it seems I just trip over the feature sets. Like it, I don't know, doesn't work for my brain. It's not doing it for me. Although I use spectacle constantly every single day.

But Coo-ha has been really doing it for me. It's nice and simple and elegant and just works. So I would say if you like that kind of thing, it's great. It is also licensed in GPL v3. And I think it's 96% written in Rust. Yeah, we'll have a link to it. K-O-O-H-A in the show notes. Yeah, nice find.

And then Wes, you founded Doosy too. So we had to do two picks this week. You came across VTT Summarizer, which summarizes VTT files, which if you don't know, and I'm sure most of you probably wouldn't be unless you're a podcaster, those are transcript files. Yeah, like SRTs or subtitle files, basically. Yeah, yeah, could be a subtitle for a movie too, right?

And we use them to, all of our episodes in 600 have had Transcription and you found a tool this VTT summarizer That uses open source LLMs To essentially go through this and summarize it could also do with meeting notes. Tell me about this thing Yeah, I haven't actually had a chance to try it yet. It also looks kind of new I don't even see a license. Right. On there yet. It's just basically like a Python file that hooks into all the APIs we have around open source LLM.

So here's how it reads. This script extracts structured information from VTT files, such as Zoom meeting transcripts or closed captions, converts it into JSON and Markdown formats. This includes an overview, participants, main topics, key points, decisions, and action items. It uses open source LLMs to handle the data extraction and summarization, ensuring everything can be run locally without the need to share with third parties.

But presumably also if you wanted to, you could plug in a third party API provider as well. Hmm. Very nice. Link to that in the show notes. Also, shout out to Llama4, which came out today. That's exciting. We'll be digging into that at some point in the future.

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