LINUX Unplugged - 632: The Nightly Wobble

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, friends, and welcome back to your weekly Linux talk show. My name is Chris. My name is Wes. And my name is Brent. Hey, gentlemen, coming up on the show today, we've been giving KDE Linux a spin, and we'll give you our first impressions in just a little bit. Plus, I just made a bunch of big updates to my hyper vibe distro. Yeah, it's still a thing.
Starting point is 00:00:30 And I'm going to see if we can get Wes to get it installed and up and running live during the show. In fact, during the second half of the show, he doesn't even have the whole show. Then we'll round it out with some great shoutouts, some picks, and a lot more. So before we go any further, let's say time of appropriate greetings to that virtual lug. Hello, Mumble Room. Welcome in. We got a real small on air. And then look at that big old quiet listening up there. It's glistening with the quiet listening.
Starting point is 00:00:58 That's nice. Thank you, everybody, joining us there, and in the Matrix chat, making it a live vibe. And a big shout out to our friends at Defined networking. Head over to Defined.net slash unplugged. Go check out Managed Nebula, a decentralized VPN built on the amazing open source Nebula platform. It's a project we love, we've been following it for years, and it is so exciting to see the managed Nebula product get to something that you can recommend to businesses, friends, and family. See, Nebula is really optimized for speed, some points, simplicity and industry leading security.
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Starting point is 00:03:04 Dot net slash unplugged. Nothing else offers Nebula's level of resilience, speed. It's really great. And I now have my first lighthouse. It's a moment, boys. I felt really proud. And you can do it too. You can host your own.
Starting point is 00:03:18 You can use there's a public one out there. Or get started with 100 hosts absolutely free with a managed product. Just no credit card required either. It's Define.net slash unplugged. Well, Texas Linux Fest, October 3rd to the 4th at the Commons Conference Center in Austin, Texas, is just 18 days away. Probably about 10 or so days until Brent needs to hit the road from right now. I think maybe eight? Five.
Starting point is 00:03:42 I heard five. Yeah, I'm feeling more like seven, so I got a pack. Well, you've got to think about it this way. If you've got seven or eight days to leave, then you've got four or five days to fix whatever you need to fix before you can hit the road. I still have a leaking route. So I've got to get it going on that. We have a big update on how we're doing coming up in the show later on. We've been stacking support with the audience's help for Texas Linux Fest.
Starting point is 00:04:04 It's been really awesome. And I think with the incredible support we've seen from the audience and the fact that we just ticked over our 12th anniversary, I think we should officially hold the unplugged birthday party at Texas Linux Fest. So we have a meetup on the books if you go to meetup.com slash Jupiter Broadcasting. We have an Austin Unplugged Birthday Party on October 4th during the 12 p.m. lunch hour. Remember that meetup page is in Pacific Time, so I put it in for 2 p.m. Pacific Time. Is that right? I can't remember. But I put it in so it equates to either way, it's at lunch during Texas Linux Fest. And there's a real nice place. It offers burgers, coffee, beer, cocktails right nearby with indoor and outdoor seating.
Starting point is 00:04:52 So I think we'll just walk there. And we'll hold the 12th anniversary birthday party for Linux Unplugged on Saturday at Texas Linux Fest. It should be really fun, I think. And I think also I'm going to say grab the BitChat app. While we're there on the ground, why don't we all organize with BitChat? I think there's no servers required, no accounts required. It's just location and Bluetooth and IP-based. So get BitChat.
Starting point is 00:05:18 We'll have it linked in the show notes. Open source, we've talked about it before. it could be a great way for us to just communicate. You know, that's a good idea, as you get in the area. And we do have our link. We're trying to raise support to get to Texas Linux Fest. We were going to do the commercial sponsoring route, but nothing's really worked out. And so the audience is stepping up in a big way to make sure that we can get down there and do what we do best.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Cover these special community events like nobody else does or can. And so we'll have a link in the show notes. You can use PayPal, Venmo, or on-chain, or Lightning, to support us. And you can put a little message in there. I'm kind of playfully calling you to Facebook. boost. You can also, of course, boost us and put a message in there for going right into our fund to get us down to Texas. And I also think you could consider picking up a V-Lug identification item, like a hat or a T-shirt at the Jupiter Garage. We have a couple of new ones
Starting point is 00:06:07 up there that you could put on and get identified by the team right away. You can find that at JupyterGarage.com. I wonder, did we get the new hat colors on there? Oh, good question. I'm excited already. I mean, the schedule for Texas Linux Fest is up there. It's looking good. It's looking real good. And you're on Saturday. That's right, yeah. Everybody should come see Wes's talk on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:06:29 After our meetup. Yeah, yeah. And then right before the after parties, which there'll probably be several of. So you could grab yourself a V-Lug identification item, so that way you stand up from the crowd at JupyterGarage.com. Of course, we have the booths, and we have the playfully titled fake booths,
Starting point is 00:06:46 if you would like to support us. That way. We'll have a link for that in the show notes. And we'll have an update on how we're doing in just a little bit. But KDE hit a new release stage in this last week, and we wanted to take a look at it. We've been talking about it on and off to our bootleg members, and just wanted to get everyone caught up really quickly. The KDE community that makes the plasma desktop has also now started creating their own distribution. And it's built by the KDE project to sort of feature the plasma desktop and plasma technologies.
Starting point is 00:07:17 And we've entered into, it's still, I guess it's not, it's alpha, but, it's not alpha alpha. I mean, how are they calling? I mean, they do call it the alpha release of KDE Linux, at least Nate did over in his blog post. It's like the next alpha, I suppose. I mean, the reason why I'm trying to make this clear is it's still early days, everybody. But it is a new operating system intended eventually to be at a spot where you could daily drive this thing that would showcase plasma and KDE software in the best light they feel that the developers feel.
Starting point is 00:07:47 And they would try to highlight modern technologies in their like Wayland and Butterfess. So I think what's notable is they're calling this a testing edition now. So it's still considered alpha, but it's at the stage where they want to get public testing. So in there right now is an unreleased version of plasma. Plasma 6.5 is in there right now. And so you can get to play with the latest and greatest stuff that way. And I know immediately you're probably thinking, as you listen to this, boys, why do we need another Linux distro? Why?
Starting point is 00:08:17 Well, this is what the KDE project says. they say, quote, KDE is a huge producer of software. It's awkward for us not to have our own method of distributing it. Yes, KDE produces open source that others distribute, but we self-distribute our apps on app stores like FlatHub and the Snap Store and Microsoft stores. So I think it's natural for us to have our own platform for doing that distribution too. And that is an operating system. And so that's kind of what they say.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Now, Brent, there's neon, though. Yeah, Nate has some words here about neon because, well, if you're remember that was the old version or oof am i supposed to call it that but that was the version of linux that they were putting out for developers and those of us who are i don't know interested in finding bugs to give it a shot chris you were running that for a long time in studio too yeah indeed at least nate says katy is not cancelled however it has shed most of its developers over the years which is problematic and it's currently being held together by a heroic volunteer while neon continues to exist. KD. Linux, therefore, does represent duplication. As for unnecessary,
Starting point is 00:09:25 that I'm not sure about that. Harold, myself, and others feel that KD. Not Neon has somewhat reached its limit in terms of what we can do with it. It was a great first product that KDE distributed some software and prepared the world for the idea of KD in that role, and it served admirably for about a decade. But technological and conceptual issues limit how far we can continue to develop it. I mean, I can definitely understand preferring, even in an alpha, what they've got going now to putting things together the way Katie Neon did. That said, I mean, I ran it for years, we ran it at the studio for years.
Starting point is 00:10:05 It really did work well. Yeah. Yeah, I think during his heyday, it was actually a really great showcase. I guess I do empathize with the idea of that was our V1 and this is our V2. I can kind of connect with that. And it feels like, you know, designing something like this 10 years ago versus designing it in, you know, with modern applications and construction in mind. Of course, they can come up with a very different product. All right, Big Payne.
Starting point is 00:10:30 So they keep saying it's a modern. It's a modern design. What do they mean when they're saying it's modern? What does that mean in today's Linux distro parlance? Yeah, we do live in an interesting time where people are building all kinds of new, wacky, different versions of Linux. This is not using OSTree or Bootsie like we've seen over when we talk about Are You Blue Friends? I guess they're using Arch as a base, but then they're using a tool called MakeOSI
Starting point is 00:10:56 that produces like a operating system image file. And then under the hood, you get a ButterfS main partition with a system subvolume that is your sort of like writable world. And then they're using EROFS, which is like a read-only file system. that the kernel has a modern take on that. And so they ship these images that they build as these EROFS read-only file systems that get put on your file system and manage by SystemD
Starting point is 00:11:26 with Update CTL, and there's a whole suite of SystemD tools for this. Right, so you update with SystemD. That's crazy. It's fun. It's not the best UI, but it's fun. And then, of course, right, that can hook into, like, the System D boot stuff. Right now, this does only work on UFI systems, and so you can have, like, the A, B, or, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:43 different versions that you can roll back to. too. And there's a lot to like in terms of you really just download a new file system image onto your hard drive. It gets kind of rigged up a little, you know, with just a little bit, connect a few dots. And then it seemed, I was doing some poking, mostly because it foils a lot of like the sort of kegs-ex-stuff I like to do. They do actually load the PMM module that I needed in the internet RAMFS already, which I had to extract out of the unified kernel that they boot. but they're using something where basically system D, system D boot passes an EFI variable that tells it which drive it booted from
Starting point is 00:12:17 and then it can just use the GPT partitioning to figure out what your route is automatically and it's sort of like auto generates these mount units for you. And then on top of that, KDE Linux is making sure that this EROFS. So it's like it mounts the butterFS system as your actual route, but then immediately before you ever get anywhere, it mounts this read only to just the slash user.
Starting point is 00:12:39 part. And so all of that comes from their pre-built images. Ah. And the way you're living is in the sub-volume. That's where there's stuff like Etsy and other places that you can write to. Is home in there, too, in the sub-volume? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's actually a pretty clever way to lay it out. I like that when I looked at it first, I thought, oh, okay, they didn't do home as its own partition. No, no, because it's in that sub-volume group. And, you know, they actually listed explicitly things like Nix or other tools like, you know, if we don't do, They were originally at some point in their design doing a fully immutable, just like at root.
Starting point is 00:13:13 But they felt this gave them a lot of the same guarantees, but with a little more compatibility. Although I did very quickly try to install Nix, and it was kind of failing because it was trying to write under user local, I think, which was still read only and so still was breaking some things. But I didn't try that hard. So this has been one of my questions is, and you just touched on it, who is this ultimately for? and I guess what you just alluded to is there is some flexibility in the underlying system because one of the people that, one of the groups they're clearly targeting is developers. They say, quote, you want to participate in KDE's QA process and find issues or early bugs or, quote, you are a KDE plasma developer are some of the groups they implicitly state on their website
Starting point is 00:13:58 they're targeting is developers. And so my concern is a lot of times an immutable system is a little, too rigid. And you end up doing everything in distro box or everything in containers because developers need tools. They need libraries. They need all the crap that they use to build their particular applications with their particular workflow, with their particular preferences. That's where an immutable distro can be a little bit of friction. And if you're trying to make something where people can come and build applications for the plasma desktop, they're going to need to be able to, you know, I don't know, what would you, what would be a basic closure set up for you?
Starting point is 00:14:33 and could you get that working on something like this? Yeah, I mean, I do think you are probably going to run into some limits. It does support home brew, so you can get home brew going. It's kind of like a lot of these modern systems. If it sufficiently side loads cleanly, then you can kind of make it work maybe with some modifications or some, you know, Jerry Rig support that you might need. And, of course, you know, for a lot of stuff, especially with KDE, there's, you know, Flatbacks are very first class.
Starting point is 00:14:56 So even if you want to develop some on KDE software, because they do have a section in their wiki that kind of addresses like, well, Here's how you might go about developing non-KDE software and what if you want to work on the distro itself? And so there's various setups. I do think containerization or things will probably come into play. They do mention distro box as well. Yeah, and Docker.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Yep. And System D, System Extensions is another tool that they seem to be adopting in a pretty first-class way. That felt like next time I come back around to KDE Linux, that I think I want to play with. And that lets you kind of do another take at this like overlaying, right? You can be like, oh, hey, I want you. to overlay these files on top of my
Starting point is 00:15:35 what I've already got going on slash user to then add this extra, especially with SystemD where you can override and hook in new units and lots of things. They do say in the documentation though, install at your own risk, this could break things. And I think that's the takeaway for this entire distribution is install at your own risk.
Starting point is 00:15:52 It's still early. And that's said, Brent, I know you've had a little bit of time with it. We've all just spent kind of the weekend with it. I'm curious what your first impressions were. As soon as I hit download, it was the, excitement. I think anything coming out of the KD project I've been a fan of for a long time, and we've been hearing
Starting point is 00:16:09 about... We'll note your bias here now. I do actually think... No, I think that's worth mentioning is, I think all three of us, we've become over the years, pretty impressed with what the plasma desktop has achieved and the KDE apps and ecosystem and the consistency that they've achieved. So you're right, Brent, but I think they've earned it.
Starting point is 00:16:25 They've earned it by producing and being there year after year. And if you look at the transition from the five series to six series and how smooth that went, It's really impressive from that team. And so I think I've been excited about this coming since we heard little murmurs about it. What was that? Six months ago, something like that.
Starting point is 00:16:43 So it's nice to see it finally come out. And yeah, sure, I'm biased and excited. So that was the first going into it emotion that I felt. Now I did, of course, see some differences. Like the download is a dot raw. That was a little new for me. I don't believe I've installed anything from a dot raw. typically you know you get an ISO or something like that and I wondered if that would give me any
Starting point is 00:17:06 issues but you know this being an alpha I thought I'm just going to give it a quick test in a VM and that's plenty fine maybe for a first go around and that booted up just fine if you you know give it enough space and all of that stuff what I ran into quickly though was I had issues partitioning and I know Wes you were like I didn't have any issues at all but And something about my setup gave me issues in the installer. Yeah, I installed it probably like 10 times overall just because I kept tweaking and trying stuff and all of them worked. And I don't know what I did.
Starting point is 00:17:42 I obviously tried to troubleshoot it quite a bit and I did make some progress and I ended up the auto partitioning wasn't really working for me for whatever reason. So I ended up doing it manually and even then I would get to the install process. it would chug for a little bit and then eventually get some I.O. errors and things like that. So it could very, very, very well be. It's my particular setup. How did you break your virtual hardware? Why is everything always breaking around me? So I did the smart thing and wrote that raw image to a USB drive and figured, go bare metal, baby. And so I gave that a shot today. And strangely, that excitement was still there. And I still didn't have any.
Starting point is 00:18:29 and install it because I didn't want to wipe the entire, you know, framework maybe an hour or two before the show. But I get a sense you guys might convince me to do that after the show. But I did get it running and ran into a couple little bugs like plasma crashed one time. And I did have some errors doing updates, but eventually an image came in and I realized these are huge. I know the installer told me, hey, you're going to need at least 40 gigs to install this, as opposed to to what typically we see like 8, 16 gigs, something like that. So I know there's stuff that's a little different under the... If the images are big, and if you've got a big faster net connection, it's no big deal.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And if you're on a slower connection, you really feel it. They weren't even that fast to tell? I have a pretty decent connection. Yeah, you did. And it was still, you know, a few minutes. Yeah, when I did the update CTL update or upgrade, whatever it was, at first I thought nothing was happening. And then I realized that that progress bar was just taking a real long time. It was just at like one or zero percent for...
Starting point is 00:19:30 It also has a fancy little colored progress bar, though, once it gets anywhere. And once that image is downloaded, it switched so fast, I thought it failed. So there's that for it. It's got that going forward. I'm curious what your impressions were just kicking the tires, Wes. Yeah, I like it. I mean, it's a very lean system. Pretty much everything's just in flatbacks, a little bit in the base system, as little as they can, I think.
Starting point is 00:19:54 So it's pretty snappy, which is nice, you know, comes from a pretty nice little arch-based. for what you do get in the base system. I was trying it out in a VM. I did try it on hardware at the end too, but in my first install, I noticed that my mouse was totally upside down, but in a way where, like, clearly, like, where you clicked
Starting point is 00:20:10 was down no longer where anywhere that was drawing the mouse. So you kind of had to guess it was just like a little, you know, a few millimeters above that. It's, we run into that every now and then. Yeah, but... Not unusual, but I saw other folks
Starting point is 00:20:21 reporting that issue as well. And so I just thought, like, is this some weird issue? You know, there's a lot of ways that could happen, issue, or some way that they were plugging it all together, because not only did it not do that at the login screen,
Starting point is 00:20:34 but then after I did an update, totally went away. So, and I could see, because I was running over a couple days that, yeah, they've clearly got their CI all hooked up and it's pumping out, like, daily or nightly images that you get updates for. I don't know that they have, like, the binary diff stuff
Starting point is 00:20:50 that they eventually want to be able to do happening right now. So, you know, do be aware of that if you're on a paid connection. Yeah. Yeah, if you're metered, you might, you might maybe wait. because I'm sure it's under very rapid development at the moment. I do think, like, if you're someone who really likes fresh plasma and wants to live dangerously, if you can already make a system like this work where you are doing stuff in containers,
Starting point is 00:21:11 you're happy to run stuff in Flatpackers, browser tabs, then, like, for that kind of workstation, it'd be totally fine. I asked you guys earlier, who's this for? And I'll tell you what my use case is, is I want to check out plasma from time to time. And, like, why not spend the weekend in the latest plasma? And now that you've got the, you know, a functionally atomic setup. Yeah. While it is like this brand new setup and maybe you're on these unreleased versions and all that, like that sharp edge is at least somewhat blunted by the fact that you can roll back if you do have a known good state. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:21:43 That's fair. You have that sort of safety net. I'm not saying go switch all your business employees to this, but, you know. No. I mean, it right now is very much, it's an MVP. It ships with Dolphin console, Arc, Spectacle, Discover, Infocenter, system settings, and a couple other systems. level apps in the base image and then kate and firefox are installed via flat pack that's pretty much it boys lean it is which i don't mind discover is installed already pre-configured to look at
Starting point is 00:22:09 flat hub um the one thing that really stands out though when you're on a really lean system and you open up discover i i don't know what they're using to pick what shows but like so if if if you wanted somebody to be able to sit down and install this and be able to maybe just just add some of the most common applications. That's not what's on the front page of Discover. It's like a random selection of apps. So you really have to know what you're looking for, which is fine. But it'd be kind of cool just to have maybe like a curated selection of like the most go-to apps that people need to get their system working and functional.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Just right there. I was really happy to see ButterfS en route. Nice to see that. And they also have ZD standard compression, as our friends would say, enabled by default. They also have the SSD flag turned on. But ultimately, my impression was, is plasma 6.5. I get to play with plasma 6.5. What? This is great.
Starting point is 00:23:03 I don't have to mess up my whole system just to go play with plasma. This is another case, right? Where, like, since they do have all the automation set up, you just get these stamped output regular snapshots of what the trees look like. I don't know the exact details, but... Some of the stuff that actually really tickled me in 6.5 has been in plasma, at least for a couple of releases. But just for an example, the remote desktop stuff is so nice now.
Starting point is 00:23:31 You go into system settings, remote desktops, in that, there's a section for it. You enable a user, so I turned on, I added my user, and then you check a box. And then it gives you your IP, and so I went over to another computer, I installed KRDP or whatever it is, put in the IP address, set no other settings, hit enter, and entered my username and password. and I was remote controlling the plasma machine, a KDA Linux machine. Over whaling. Over whaling on both systems, on both ends, no problem. Really good performance.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Like I could move the windows around with the wobble and everything. Now, obviously. Wait, with the what? What did you say? With the wobbles. You got to have the wobble, right? I want the absolute latest version of the wobble. I want nightly wobble, okay?
Starting point is 00:24:20 And I have it now. And the remote desktop, all that stuff, Like the things they've been adding to plasma, it's so well refined and comes together in 6.5. So who's it for? I think it's for people that want to just experience plasma. Maybe you're creating an application and you want to see how it works on kind of like the reference plasma desktop. Because I think that's what this is striving for is the reference plasma desktop. And for some users, that's going to be very appealing to them.
Starting point is 00:24:49 For other folks, there might be something we check in from from time to time. But, I mean, does it feel like an alpha? A little, but like you're saying, you can always revert. Like, Nate, he's been running it for months on the daily. So it's getting to a point already. I do think, right, like, we are, the ecosystem is adapting now to work better in this environment where, like, what you depend on from that core operating system is less and less, and that means there's less that you have to get to get to sort of minimum viable distro in that sense.
Starting point is 00:25:20 I also get a vibe that maybe there's a long-term goal to create a reference platform for OEMs, hardware manufacturers that want to ship laptops or tablets or whatever using plasma. And we also seem to have a bit of a roadmap. Three editions are planned, testing, which will be like daily Git builds, Enthusius, which will be the beta versions of released KD software. And then stable, which will be only released quality checked software. So you'll have three additions. of KD Linux eventually.
Starting point is 00:25:51 It's only one right now. Right. Because it's probably, it's all just testing right now. But that kind of also sort of slices it up, right? Enthusiasts, you could go check out
Starting point is 00:26:01 the enthusiast track of it or whatever you want to call it or the enthusiast edition. I think that's good. One thing I wonder, you know, in the UBlue world, it is very much on like the container side of this tech.
Starting point is 00:26:14 I wonder, you know, where it's also encouraged, like you can just import that and adroo. layers on top and make your own thing. I wonder, will people fork this? Will there be like, you know, system extensions or things that become like, oh, here's like an add-on for Katie Linux. Obviously not right now, but maybe. These additions also get me thinking about who is the audience, right? Like daily Git builds, I totally get that through testing. Even
Starting point is 00:26:39 maybe enthusiasts, you get bug checkers and things like that. But I guess it's natural to put out a stable, but is that really their goal? Makes me curious. Is that maybe for the neon folks that have been, you know, because neon has been based on Ubuntu LTS. Great point. So maybe this is, you know, for them. And if you were going to run it on the daily yourself, that might be the one you want to target, because even with the stable version, I'm sure once the next version of plasma is considered stable, you get probably that day.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Although I wonder, because there's the plasma component, but then there's, like, if they're using an arch as the upstream, there's the... That's true. I don't know how many net packages it is. That'd be good to take a look at. Maybe that's not a crazy burden, but in theory, that is really. that is rolling underneath still that you get snapshots, unless they're backporting, you know, there's... And Chris, maybe it's perfect for you. You run stable most of the time. And then when you want to get that weekend where you get a little preview, you just switch images to testing and give it a couple of place. Right. You could rebase. That is one of the, that is one of this. Distro hopping is going to be something that we tell future generations that we used to do. Oh, yeah, we used to reload the entire system. And we'd format it. Or some of us would have separate partitions.
Starting point is 00:27:49 drives for our home folder and we'd keep that between the reinstalls and it'd be a couple hours or people had slick setups right on their case so they could switch which was like the primary hard drive oh the switch is to like kegzek you know that used to be a thing but now we just rebase and in five minutes you're you're on the new thing lame it is nice though to be able to check things out you could rebase to testing for the weekend and then go back to stable so interesting i think it's going to be a distribution to watch obviously just because of who's making it. The security updates will lag a bit behind Arch. They say by a day or so, maybe that gives us a little insight to the process there. The governance seems to be run by, quote,
Starting point is 00:28:28 a council of elders, according to LWN, with a final arbiter involved. And if there's ever an end of life to KD Linux, like they, and I like that they're talking about this. If the project fails, they say a last update will convert the system into another supported distro. Yeah. Thinking about the whole life cycle up front is smart that's I don't know what that what exactly that means but okay they're promising it goes back to neon
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Starting point is 00:31:44 to support the show OnePassword.com slash unplugged Chris, I got an itch this week and it's to learn more about how hyper vibe is doing you haven't talked about it for I think like two weeks now
Starting point is 00:31:58 is this is this a bad sign? We're worried something's wrong. I'm doing okay I've been biting my tongue but some big things happen this week so we're going to talk about a little bit while Wes
Starting point is 00:32:10 while we do the segment attempts to get it running on a laptop live during the show, West Payne. Are you ready to install Hyper Vibe on that laptop? Well, we'll see. As Jeff knows, well, you have a notoriously large config? Yes. So I think we're going to see
Starting point is 00:32:29 what things need to get trimmed down to make this work. My config highlights the best that free software has to offer. So there's a lot in there. So it's been a bit. Hyperland 0.51 dropped this week, and they actually completely reworked the gesture system with true one-to-one trackpad gestures
Starting point is 00:32:47 you can map to fingers and modifiers and all kinds of cool directions and you can now set scroll factors per device which is really fun that's nice so you're you can dial in the mouse and you can dial in the touchpad and they don't have to have the same exact scroll settings there was a rework on animations
Starting point is 00:33:03 I got a nice polish with smoother transitions for pop-ups and screen sharing for Chrome and Firefox is fixed up a little bit with 8-bit color, so it's a little bit faster. So I had to incorporate all of this into Hypervibe, and I had to fix up some deprecated configs. I had to go in and change a few things around the new gesture system.
Starting point is 00:33:22 I got all that refactored. But the thing that was big is I also have a new shared module stack. So all my hosts now have a consistent base, and then I have independent configs for each host. And then I've cleaned things up to make builds go faster, like I removed WebGTK.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Yeah, I wonder if you didn't push that yet because... Oh, maybe not. I'm having to do that right now. Oh, you're going to be building WebGK for the whole show. I'm removing a bunch of it. I think I got it gone. Yeah, you're not going to want that. It takes forever to build.
Starting point is 00:33:52 And it's Telegram and Full 8, they pull it in. And Telegram, you can just installs a flat pack. So I guess in the config I haven't committed yet. I pulled out Telegram as a package and now it's a flat bag. I'm making it harder for me. I know. I'm sorry. I also now have fixed auto updates.
Starting point is 00:34:07 I had this ridiculous bug where auto updates were building the wrong version. So now they're locked to my repo's flake. So the system only builds against known good configs. I overhauled the way bar. The clock is cleaner, supports multiple time zones in the drop-down now. And some systems, people are having problems with the emojis, so I simplified that. I also have set up better device rules, so Android phones and a lot of USB gear just works without warnings. You just plug it in, and you should be able to access your USB device or like your Android.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I've moved to Kitty, and I've moved to nerd fonts, and that all looks really nice now. And I've installed cursor. I'm playing around with the cursor editor, and it should be able to edit the files. It needs to edit and things like that, but all at all, new features, lots of tuning. It is all there. The new version of Hyperland has launched and Hyper Vibe, My Distro on Nix, has taken full advantage of all of them. It's looking real beautiful. In fact, I was telling Brent before the show that I liked the setup so much that I'm working from home more just because with an ultra-wide screen and the tiling window manager, I can achieve a lot of the productivity I feel like I get with multiple monitors.
Starting point is 00:35:20 I don't think it's a one-to-one, but it's pretty close. And it's really, it's great for work and it's great for gaming, like because I have GameScope and game mode and all that stuff. So when you launch games, like it's a full ready-to-go gaming system. and when you want to work, it's really nice and I've got key combinations that launch groups of applications and position them where I need them and all of it.
Starting point is 00:35:42 It's just, I've been very happy and I think it's going to be hard to go back to a non-tyling workflow. Well, why do you need to? I don't know. I don't know why you ever would. I don't know why you ever would. Okay, West Payne.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I might be ready to try. No way, really. You got around WebGTK that quick. You stripped her down, didn't you? I did. I did notice you have a few, a bit of duplication in here. That is the old config. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Yes, because I did actually go through and remove some of the dupes. Because I was like, why do I have to remove element a couple of different times? Yeah. And then you had some old plasma five packages that had to get removed. Yeah. That is the old. I'm sorry. No, I need.
Starting point is 00:36:25 What I, I, I, no, this was whole, I wanted him to review what I got wrong. And the problem is, is that I do kind of, like, batch, commits. So I've changed a lot of things, and then I do one commit, and I just try to put all my changes in that commit. Because otherwise, I'd be committing stuff all the time. Well, Chris, there's a good way to use Git and a less good way to use Git. Just saying. Tell me more. Or Wes, I'll tell you after the show. Am I using it wrong? Am I getting wrong, boys? I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:36:54 That you're getting at all is a huge success. So please don't stop. Speaking of Git, we thought it'd be fun to kind of what Wes is. is doing with my hyper vibe config right now let's do for anybody i wonder if we couldn't even make an episode out of it so we want once again we're putting the call out for you to send us your configs but we want to do it a little differently this time we'll take a look at them we'll call out what you got good i love that part we'll even call out if we're copying anything you've got and we'll call out the bad so it's like you know it's all out there um and we may suggest a few improvements and we want to be able to actually commit those improvements back so we're going to put
Starting point is 00:37:33 a link in the show notes for people to submit? What are we, have we decided the best way for them to send it to us? I think however they, you know, send a boost email. No, no, I mean, like, we need it somewhere where we can get it. I think we'll just have to fork as we go. Okay, so just put it somewhere where you can link it to us. So send it in as a boost or send in an email and link it to us, and then we'll grab it. That'll work. That'll work. And that we want your next configs. And then maybe we'll put together like a list of the ones that we receive or something and then link out to them. Is there any other configs we want people to send? besides Nix configs that we want to look at?
Starting point is 00:38:06 I mean, I just love config setups, so. Sweet Ansible setups, that's fine, too. I'd be down for that, yeah. So boost them in with a link or email them in, so we can take a look and tell you what we think of them. You know, if you got like a real dope, docker, composed, yeah, we'll send that in. Apparently we got a Hyperland guy here.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Hey, yo. Okay, Westpane, so we're going to let you keep going. We'll give you through the next segment. We're going into the last half of the show. So you've got a little bit over there. We'll see how it goes. So ladies and gentlemen, stand by why West Payne tries to build hyper vibe on a laptop that's old and slow. Yeah, we are doing a little bit of finishing building Hyperland.
Starting point is 00:38:49 So there's that going on. Yeah, it's always pulling in the absolute latest. It's one of the funny things actually was. I knew about the new gesture stuff before the Hyperland announcement of the new release because they broke in my config, because I'm running raw, man. And so I was fixing stuff in line as they were getting published
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Starting point is 00:39:54 to the latest RAR series of things. And if you know what I mean, you know what I mean. Now, I got a note from Allen in Texas. He says, in your latest read, you mentioned you wanted to hear people with their Unraid setups. Well, I am running Unraid on a Dell Power Edge R730XD as my home server. It's running a couple of VMs for Home Assistant, PF Sense, and a Minecraft server on Ubuntu, and a couple of Linux distros to play around with. There are also several containers for Image, Jellyfin, Next Cloud, Pinch, Flat, Matrix, Manyfold, Vault, and More. I've been busy with work, so it needs some love.
Starting point is 00:40:29 I'm not really sure if that's worth sharing, but if you guys want to pull the trigger on Linux on Plug HomeLab Extreme, makeover podcast, I could be a prime candidate. I would love to do that, Alan. Thank you for sending that note in about your Unraid setup. I love hearing what people use it for. I'm going to check out Minifold. I know everything on that list.
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Starting point is 00:41:01 Unraid's fantastic, built on modern Linux. You're going to love it. Unraid.net slash unplugged. That's unrayed. That's unraid.net slash unplugged. Well, this week we want to do a big shout out to core contributor Pierre G. Thank you very much for joining the core contributor team
Starting point is 00:41:21 and the party. Yay. I hope you get the bootleg this week. Check it out. Let us know what you. you think. Brentley, we had a bunch of people take advantage of the fake boost link to support the Linux Fest trip to Texas.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Can you remind what the heck is a fake boost? Yeah, so I created a page that lets you use PayPal, Venmo, on chain, or lightning. And you can put, and the reason why I'm calling it, and I'm calling it teasingly a fake boost, because you can put your message, you can put your name or a username, a handle, and a message in there, like a boost. It doesn't actually use the boost payments system, but it kind of replicates the experience of who you are, amount, and message so we can give you credit.
Starting point is 00:42:07 And so Jordan Bravo took advantage of it with 10,000 sats. He says, have some sats for the Texas Linux Fest. I also hope you consider attending Self next year, since I live in Georgia. Self is the only Linux conference I can reasonably travel. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it makes sense. We get that one.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Do you want to take the next one, Mr. Payne? I know you're in the middle over there. Let me, I got to scroll up. Oh, yeah. Brett and I could do it, too, if you've got a build to take two. I know you're in the middle of that. Matt M. Fake boosts in with 250.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Oh, USD. Yes, thank you, sir. I think that deserves a baller. Yeah. It's not a fake boost at all. That's some value. Thank you, Matt. I've been listening and watching since the Linux action show.
Starting point is 00:42:46 All right. And I'm hopeful for at least another 12 years of Linux unplugged. Yeah, bro. Setting it high. I love it. Yeah. Hopefully this will help with part of the hotel. costs. Thanks to the whole team for all your dedication
Starting point is 00:42:56 and hard work. Oh, well, thank you. Thank you, man. I really appreciate it. I think he means you know, the bus. We're all going to just pile in, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, right. That's the whole, that was the long-term plan, wasn't it? Uh-huh. We got us a blender cat sending in a little message with a fake boost of 105 U.S.Ds.
Starting point is 00:43:15 I hoard that which not bad at all. Thank you, sir. Fun will now commence. Blender cat says, I hope to see you all at Texas Linux Fest. Okay, Blender Cat. You got to come up and you've got to identify yourself. You've got to introduce yourself as Blender Cat now. Yeah, please. Wear a shirt or something.
Starting point is 00:43:33 I will accept a pantomime as well. Okay. Matt F came in with $50 and said, get some great barbecue. Thank you, Matt F. Appreciate that. I can I just say, do not blend cats. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Yeah, okay. Crashmaster comes in with 50 bucks. Hey, Crashmaster. What the heck? For Texas Linux Fest, get some good recipes for members and office. Justin for the lunch. Good call.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Good call. Hey, wait, you can't call it that. Well, Vince P boosted in. Oh, no, that's not a boost. It's a fake boost. 200 U.S.Ds. Hey, 200. Hey, rich lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Ah, thank you, Vince. Vince says, cheers, boys, and enjoy the fest. Thank you. Dee came in with $150. He says, here's some Fiat fun for the meeting. coma. Much required. Thank you. Phil J. comes in with a fiver. Make it so. Enjoy the trip, guys. Listener since 2020, started with self-hosted.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Yeah. All the best of the J.B. team, looking forward to hearing your coverage. Cheers from Switzerland. Oh, nice. Thank you, Phil. Wonderful. We will do you proud. I've never heard of this guy. Carl George, aka Mr. PocketMeet, uh, fake boosted in an old 50. Nice. 50 for the group. Well, this isn't looking great. He says nothing but barbecue. That's how you know it's car.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Three words, three letters. BBQ. Barbecue, yeah. I think this counts as buggy meat. Oh, oh, Wes Payne. What is it? Failed to start display manager. What?
Starting point is 00:45:12 Why? It may be geared up for... We started our power top tuning, so that's... All my systems are AMD. Maybe that's... Hmm. Oh, that's a bummer. That's a bummer.
Starting point is 00:45:22 A hyper vibe fail. Yeah, well, you can keep poking at it, I suppose. I'll take, I'll take Noah here. Noah came in with $5. Fun will now commence. Thanks for all the great content over the years, safe travels. Thank you, Noah. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Oh, good. Postgres is running, so that worked. Oh, good. Yeah, it's ready to run as a server. Not so much as a desktop. Isn't that the intention? Oh, man. Donnie came in with $200.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Keep up the great work and event coverage. Thanks for sending up this payment method for the lazy folks like me. Thanks, Donnie. We still love you. Yeah, I appreciate it. Well, Brandon R sent us one of those fake bees of 20 U.S. dollars. Nice. Have fun in Texas and enjoy the barbecue.
Starting point is 00:46:09 We will. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Joseph B. came in with 20 bucks. Finally, I can send some money without having to buy Bitcoin. I bet. Yeah, phone, yeah. I thought that might be appealing to some of you out there.
Starting point is 00:46:22 We still love you. Thank you, Joseph. Well, Sunbaked sent us $40 U.S. dollars. Nice. Some for the trip. Here's some help from the other W.A. Western Australia. We're three times bigger than Texas, but have many times less Linux vests. Looking forward to hearing all about it.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Can I just say how awesome the international support is to get us to go cover a Texas Linux event? No kidding. A great blue. Really, really appreciate that. Thank you, Sunbaked. David H. comes in with a hundred bucks. All right. I've gotten much more than this amount and value from you folks
Starting point is 00:46:56 and look forward to the continued great work. I was also lucky to attend the 600 meetup sometime ago. Have a great trip, David, and Burlington. Well, thank you, David. From around the world to right around the corner. Yeah, really. No kidding. All right. So, our total of fake boost so far,
Starting point is 00:47:13 this is the grand total for the last two weeks, is $1,245. Hmm. That's like the combination I have on my luggage. You're right. I didn't even notice that. That's pretty interesting. Yes. That's amazing. I've got the same combination of my luggage. That is darn near almost exactly in the range of what the VRBO is probably going to cost us. We found some that are probably about in the 10 to 15 minute range drive. I will warn you, boys. It is nothing fancy. So I'm staying in the van. Is that what you're saying? Maybe. I mean, it's serviceable. It's got bedrooms. But it's all we need. We're going for budget. And with this, we're going to be.
Starting point is 00:47:53 able to secure the VRBO weeks before we head down. So thank you everyone. That is a major cost that has been solved. We still have gas. We have hotel on the way down and probably on the way back and any meetup related costs that we are still fundraising for. But this is a huge milestone for the trip support. We at least know we can secure a place to land. If we can knock out a few more of those expenses with the boost, that would be fantastic. But we really appreciate everybody that sent in a fake boost. If you want to do that, we still have the links in the show notes. It will still be available. It automatically gets tagged for Texas Linux Fest,
Starting point is 00:48:28 and you get to put your name and a message on it. Thank you, everybody who sent in a fake boost, and now let's get to Le Boose. And now it is time for The Boost. And how about this? Adversary 17 is our baller booster this week with 256,000 cents. Hey, Richel Laster!
Starting point is 00:48:53 Adversaries, right, sats for the Texas trip. Thank you, adversaries. We really appreciate that. That is a fantastic boost, and that is going right to the trip budget. To Texas, we go, boys. I like that you have stuff in here that, I don't know if you were yelling at the machine or what, but it has stuff, and it just says, preserving your existing config in all caps. I had to make it clear.
Starting point is 00:49:27 I had to make it really clear. Nuclear launch detected. Well, K.R. Hill 94 boosted in real clear with 100,000 cents. Hey-ho. I hoard that with your kind. Short and sweet. For Texas Linux Fest. Heck, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:45 We appreciate it. Thank you, 94. Really appreciate that. That's great. Right to the fund it goes. Well, we got a Padre here sending in 71,282 Satochis. Okay, dokey.
Starting point is 00:49:57 I hoard that which all kind. Here is a Linux fast boost from a first-time booster. Heyo, thank you for get it all set up. Appreciate that effort, too. I started my dev journey on the lamp stack, but life took a different direction. I became a Catholic priest about 20 years ago. I came across J.B. by way of self-hosted,
Starting point is 00:50:21 which gave me an outlet to reignite my life. love of DevOps. So, naturally, now I run a ramshackle home lab on half a dozen old PCs and max. Half of my church's IT needs are on top of NixOS, thanks to Chris and the Badger. I don't spend a lot of time on Linux, but I do love the show and the network. Prayers for a safe journey to Texas Linux Fest, and thanks for the hard work on that old J.B. P.S., the total of these boots should be a zip code, but only time with Will Tell. Thank you, Padre. That is a great boost. I love to hear that NixOS has creeped in and brace yourself West because actually... Yes, zip code is a better deal.
Starting point is 00:51:04 All right. So this is the total of this boost should be a zip code, but only time will tell. What does that mean? I feel like it's a riddle. All right. And then you just spin the map around. You put your lucky finger down and you land on Tallulah, Louisiana. Louisiana.
Starting point is 00:51:22 T-A-L-L-L-A-L-A-L-A-H. I don't know if that's not if I'm saying to write, but T-A-L-U-L-A-H. That's fantastic. In Madison Parish. Will I be driving through there to get to Texas? I don't know. Take a look at the map, Brent. We just had it out for goodness.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Can you unfold it a bit more? You're kind of hiding in the section of... We were going to ask you what your route was, but you're asking us. I know. This is not how this works. Boost in what you think my route should be. He doesn't know. Biggles knows, though.
Starting point is 00:51:52 He came in. with 50,000 sats. Oh, my God, this drawer is filled with broilobes. Thank you, sir. Looking forward to the Texas Linux Fest coverage, here is my small contribution. Not small at all. We really appreciate any value people can contribute. It is extremely humbling, and comforting isn't the right word, but to know that
Starting point is 00:52:12 the Linux audience, that chooses to listen to our podcast, at least, has our back. You know, like, there's a community behind us. We're going to go down there, and we've been doing this for a long time. So you know we're going to deliver, right? You know we're going to do it. You know we're going to try to have a good time to, and we're going to try to get you great coverage and come back with a solid episode.
Starting point is 00:52:30 So any amount people can contribute is really appreciated. Thank you. Thank you for the boost pickles. Chlorifor comes in with 47,180s. You make me want to be a better man. We'll pump the brakes right there. This is a live zip code boost West Payne. So you're doing double duty right now.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Yes, zip code is. is a better deal he said i i agree i hadn't heard one for a while so here is a zip code boost it's 47180 oh here comes the map again going from hyper build to map like a machine is that a hypermap okay what uh what do we got here we got 50 000 471 47 180 oh i see i was one back yeah there we go that explains why i was in the water yeah you're way off It's right. I think you got to go over there. There you go.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Not next to the oil rig. It might be metric too, Wes, just in case. Ooh, I hope not. Metric zip codes are hard. You got to do the conversion. Is it in progress? I think there's a hint here. The pause, what is this last bit here, Brent?
Starting point is 00:53:40 You need to read that. The pause. I would prefer if you read it, but, you know, if you really need me to. Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. Posderwinias, Polowski.
Starting point is 00:53:51 this is i think polish i have a teeny tiny bit in my old roots but i i don't got the language i apologize for everything i just did how's the zip code uh search going over there west not so good he stump you uh there is a 47 dash 180 in poland oh okay i think i think you're i don't know if this is right though i think you're over the target at least thank you appreciate it chloro for you've kind of stumped us, but I think we're close. Yeah, I'm going to have to do some more research and maybe get a bigger map. Damn, comes in with 43,100 sets. This is the way.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Thank you. First time booster. Yes. Thank you. Longtime party member. Oh, my goodness. I use Linux every day as a visual effects artist working mostly on TV commercials. What?
Starting point is 00:54:44 Neat. We need to know more about this. I got my start by accidentally wiping the family PC with rail 2.1 in high school. Been there. Doesn't that happen to everyone? Man, when I screwed up the family PC, dad was so mad. He says, thanks to JBI, almost all my installs are now Nix OS. I hope this gets a tank of gas for the Texas Linux Fest.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Thank you, sir. I'd love to know more about using Linux for the visual effects stuff, even just software, distros, what works, what doesn't work. That's fascinating. Really appreciate the boost. Thank you for taking the time to get that all plumbed up. Well, tomato, or maybe it's tomato, sends in 28,000. Sets. Put some macaroni and cheese on there, too. There you go. This might be a high cue,
Starting point is 00:55:26 but I don't know my poems, so here we go. I nodes at night are big and bright, deep in the heart of Linux. The H-top sky is wide and high, deep in the heart of Linux. Fodora's whale along the trail, deep in that heart of Linux. The Nixie's rush around the brush, deep in the heart of Linux. These are some sats to help you with your trip to that old 28th state. Yehah. Yep. Yep. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:55:58 I like that. Thank you very much, Tomato. Nice to hear from you. Xocina comes in with 25,000 sats. Well, that's hear it good, buddy. Yeah, I got answers and I want some questions. Almost 10 months since my last boost. Sorry about that. But I have perfected my next cloud.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Oh, my, he calls it my next cloud. With one command in the terminal, you can create a ready-to-boot SD card image for a Raspberry Pi 4 or 5 with NixOS and NXCloud ready to go. Automatic mounting of USB devices and NXCloud external storage and peer-to-peer remote connectivity enabled. You can check it out on my GitHub. We'll put a link. It is J. Jack 13 or J-JK13 slash Nix Club. We'll put a link in the show notes. the direct p-to-pe connection with no firewall or no ports exposed
Starting point is 00:56:49 it'll work behind your net all you have to do is just scan a QR code you can also install it on your existing NICS system he has a link for that too he says I also have a PR pending for a merge in NICS packages when I first tried it it blew my mind you gotta give it a try thanks for the show keep it up that is an awesome project it looks like these peer-to-peer tunnels or from a project called wholesale wholesale.io looks completely open source free for some p-to-pe, good action.
Starting point is 00:57:18 I should give this a look. Thanks for letting us know, and thank you for the boost. We'll put those links in the show notes if people want to check them out. Augustine boosts in with 20,000 cents. Hey-o! They're real and they're spectacular.
Starting point is 00:57:32 My summer vacay started with the mother-in-law's dog sitting on the Ethernet cable. That's plugged into the ISP's little fiber box. No. Completely wrecking it. Oh, that was bad placement. I just got to say. So we were cut off from the outside.
Starting point is 00:57:46 world for two weeks. The ISP was not quick in fixing it. Oh, that's so frustrating. That's ouch, yeah. Oh, man. This, however, showed self-hosting's true colors. We could still watch shows, movies, and listen to music from Jellyfin, and I could listen to audiobooks as well as catching up on Linux Home Plugged episodes that I downloaded with audiobook shelf. That's so great. It feels as one is cheating the system. I totally agree with that. Even though I do think this is how the system and tech and services should work. Yes. Here's some sets for the road.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Thank you, Augustine. That's really great. Boy, you and I are locked in on that vibe. Let me tell you. It's so great, especially when you're offline. And it's still working.
Starting point is 00:58:26 It's just, whew. It's how technology should be. But it ain't always that way. Appreciate the boost. I just want to take a moment here to pause and say that was all of our baller boosts. We haven't even gotten to the
Starting point is 00:58:38 slightly less baller boosters. So thank you, everyone. Now, SatStacker 7 did send in two boosts for a total of 7,000 sets. I like you. You're a hot ticket. Hey, it's me, the user who pinged Wes about using mesh sidecar with paperless module and apparently
Starting point is 00:58:57 triggered last week's paperless deep dive. Yep, it's your fault. I am glad to hear you tried it and liked it as much as I do. I paired it with the old scan snap IX-1500 duplex scanner and connected it over USB to the machine where paperless is running. I can recommend the Sane project for scanning. on Linux combined with the command line tool, Sane scan PDF
Starting point is 00:59:19 that acts as a wrapper and lets you configure scan jobs. I've heard it works really well. I mean, ultimately, you just need to get that PDF into the consume folder. And so you can do that with any old scanner that can out, it doesn't have to be a PDF, but I think that's probably the preferred
Starting point is 00:59:35 format. But what I love about this setup is with Sane PDF, all your scans go to PDF. It just produces that PDF. You could have a go scan directly to the consume folder, which is probably what Sat Stacker is doing, and then it just gets imported.
Starting point is 00:59:51 That's pretty nice. All right. So again, that was the SnapScan I-X-1500 duplex scanner. Getting tips from the pro. I like it. Thank you. Yeah, appreciate that. Okay, Groovy came in with 2,000 sats.
Starting point is 01:00:04 No messes, just value, which we always appreciate. Thank you very much. Poppy Boozin with 7,832 sats. Well, that's here, good, buddy. Uh-oh, Wes. Guess what? zip code is a better deal i love it's just such a good deal it is such a great deal yes zip code is a better deal this is we i appreciate zip code boost we're making west work today
Starting point is 01:00:26 he is earning his split that is for sure okay so we got seven eight three two but first multiply by 11 so naturally chris as you know that's 861152 right but then you need to add one for the zip code okay sure we do i love him Okay, there you go. Let's use parentheses. I don't mind holding the corner if you want me to hold on to that. I know it's big. Yeah, here, just give it to me.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Yeah, just hold it still, Wes. I don't know why I have to move it around so much. All right, do I got this right? 7-8-3-2 multiplied by 11 plus 1. Yep. So is that 86-153? That's my math. I hate building PCs.
Starting point is 01:01:14 There you go. Okay, well, let me double check here. We got a couple of leads. Oh, my God, with the math at all. Okay, what's you got for me, Wes? What's got for me? Maybe this is a postal code in Germany? Augsburg?
Starting point is 01:01:27 A city in the state of Bavaria. Oh, nice. That's going to be my official map guess this time around for 86153. Thanks, Pabby. Let us know if we got it right. That's great. Doornail 7887 is here with 4,44 stats. That's a big duck.
Starting point is 01:01:43 That's a big duck. Texas Linux Vest, baby. Also, would you mind doing a quick tutorial on setting up a small Matrix server again? I want to join my Matrix, but of course I want it, I want to do it the hard way and use my own instead of someone else's. What is the best way to do this if we don't want to make it publicly routable? Is this possible or does it need to be online for many use cases, for his use cases? Well, you probably do need to be online in order to, what do they call it, Wes, when you... Talk to other people.
Starting point is 01:02:12 There's like a terminology, though. Federation? Yeah, when you federate. Thank you. When you federate. So you will want it online, but there's a lot of ways you can do that. But honestly, I think Home Matrix servers are a really good idea if you're up for the config, which is a bit of an uphill climb, but there's a couple of options out there. The Ancable route being probably the most popular. You can throw it on a VPS, a pretty cheap one for just a handful of users. And that might be the way to do it.
Starting point is 01:02:34 And I think that's one of the brilliant things about Matrix. We shouldn't all be reliant on matrix.org. We are looking into Matrix in a box-type solutions to recommend to people. So if anybody out there has some suggestions, obviously we are aware of the Ansible solution. But that might be a bit of a lift for some folks. So, boost in if you have any suggestions for that. Well, Jordan Bravo sends in a good old row of ducks. Yay!
Starting point is 01:02:58 I thought this was an automated message, but it's not. It says, no message, just value. Always appreciate that. Hey, guess who's back? A.A. Ron's here with 3,333sats. Where is A.A.R.R. right now. I just spent six hours troubleshooting why my games were running a two frames per second after updating to the NVIDIA driver 580 on Kibbuntu.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Turns out, you also need to update the Flatpack NVIDIA components to match the driver version. Insert face palm here. So, if any other nubes like me are running to the same problem and have steam installed through Flatpack, make sure you're running Flatpack Update, you can do that on the command line, just Flatpack Update, if you've installed the new Nvidia driver recently.
Starting point is 01:03:38 I'm kind of feeling like Chuckie Cheese out here, boys. Chuckie Cheese got wasted. Hey, Aaron, you got it working, though. that is there are multiple layers there it's a good tip that's also yeah great PSA thank you yeah hey and even even in the thanks today we got a Texas boost from MJVC with a little tiny binary boost 1010 awesome stats for the trip thank you everybody thank you everybody also stream sats as you listen 25 of you did that and collectively you stacked 31,884 sats when you combine that with our boosters We stacked a really incredible 700,287 sats.
Starting point is 01:04:35 We're getting really close. I'm feeling really good about it. I think it's happening. That's what I feel like. I mean, we were committed, but like we can, we can, we can really start actually doing this now. We can book places. I don't know if we're fully there yet,
Starting point is 01:04:49 but I just really want to say a huge thank you for everybody for reaching out and doing this. Think about what we're achieving here. We're doing something that traditionally has been funded by commercial entities that want an exchange. They want us to do something for them
Starting point is 01:05:00 or cover their product while we're there, whatever it might be, which sometimes is a good fit, but not always, and this time it wasn't. And we're doing this now with our community and our audience. And it's open source content creation
Starting point is 01:05:11 at this point. It really is, and we're going 12 years strong. We're going to get down there. We're going to have a great time, thanks to our audience for the 12th anniversary, and get us set up for another great 12 years. Thank you, everybody who supported it either with a fake boost or a boostie boost. And if you'd like to do that, you can get in on the action with Fountain FM. It's probably the easiest way. Or AlbiHub. And then you can just use any of the apps that support
Starting point is 01:05:32 that. It's also a great way to get started. And of course, a big shout out to our members who are supporting us every single week. You're our foundation out there. We really, really do appreciate you too. Okay, how about a couple of picks before we get out of here? And then we'll check in on how the old hyper build is going one last time. So the first pick this week is, it's a genre now. I think it's officially safe to say the lazy genre is a thing, and we have a new entrance. It's lazy SSH, a terminal-based SSH manager inspired by lazy Docker. Lazy SSH is a two-week out of an interactive SSH manager that sits on top of just different directories
Starting point is 01:06:10 for managing quite literally a fleet of SSH servers if you want. I mean, I have like a handful, right? A dozen maybe that I want to SSH into, which is nice for. So you can navigate and connect and manage and transfer files between your local machine and any server that's defined in your SSH config. You don't have to remember the IP addresses. You don't really have to worry about SCP commands anymore. It all takes care of it with a clean, keyboard-driven 2E.
Starting point is 01:06:36 It's really sweet. It looks really good. And it's got fuzzy search. So, like, if you kind of remember the machine's name or IP, if it's been a while. One key press SSH into selected server. You can tag servers like prod, dev. You can sort by alias or last time you logged in. Okay, you'll have to give this a try.
Starting point is 01:06:51 It does look like quite a nice little to-y. It is. I like all the color highlighting and stuff, too. It seems like I should have needed this years ago. I'm loving the lazy. You know, we have lazy Vim. We have lazy Git. We have lazy Docker.
Starting point is 01:07:06 And now we have lazy SSH. It's pretty new. It's 93% written and Go. And it's Apache licensed. so you can go have fun with it and we'll put a link to that in the show notes for you all you can check that out now do you have lazy hyper vibe
Starting point is 01:07:22 because I think we might need that uh oh okay well I was able to figure out that well you had auto logging going on so I turned oh really yeah you have GDM running and then it does auto login so that must be doing okay yeah so I turned that off and then so GDM's working again it wasn't it was just core dumping before
Starting point is 01:07:41 but now when I try to log in, Hyperland court dumps. Oh, man. Do you have any suspicions as to why? I'm looking at the logs. Hmm. Hmm. Failed to create DRI2 screen. LibbyGL warning.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Hyperland has crashed. Oh, there's a crash report. Okay. Yeah, I wonder if you're, you might be, it's interesting, I wonder which base configure it uses when I have two different systems. Well, we're going to play around with that. I based it on Nix station.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Ah, that makes sense. Yeah, because Nix station has multi-screens. Oh, maybe I should. And RVB is a more simpler system with only one screen. Picked wrong. You might have. You might have been there if you'd pick the RVB route. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:27 But clearly, I still have more work to do. And I have one more pick. Wes actually found this one. It's called term. Dot everything. Term dot everything is a Linux command line program to run GUI windows inside your terminal. quality of the window is limited to the number of rows and columns in your terminal
Starting point is 01:08:44 but I mean it if you've got a newer terminal like Kitty or I-Term 2 or something that supports some like video rendering you can you could take your desktop applications and you can put them in the terminal Wes I don't know how
Starting point is 01:09:00 the hell you found this thing that is bonkers so this example I didn't find it during our freaking terminal challenge well yeah no kidding it works on both X-11 and Wayland And in the video, the demonstration, they show somebody taking their Firefox web browser that's watching a YouTube video and pulling it into the terminal, and then it's being rendered by terminal characters. And they're watching a video. What is going on?
Starting point is 01:09:28 This just completely short-circuits my brain. There's another screenshot here, and the description is, Behold, as I play a video game in a font, in a web browser, in a terminal, transmitted over a screen. S.H with one hand tied behind my back. This is our kind of guy. Yeah, it's like I think it hooks in as like a Wayland renderer. Like it talks the Wayland protocol, but then it uses the terminal to... Right.
Starting point is 01:09:51 So only certain terminals are going to support this. Kitty, which comes pre-installed on Hypervibe, does support this, though. So, I mean, this is next level stuff. This is next level stuff. Go check out, go check out the link in the show notes, just so you can see what the heck we're going on about right now. You're not going to believe what they've been able to do with this app. And it's GPL3.
Starting point is 01:10:12 So, absolutely crazy and bonkers. And worth just going and looking at the videos that they have embedded on the GitHub page. Even if you don't install it, just go Marvel friends at what is possible. And try it out, maybe. That's all I got. I could use a few good picks. If people want to send those in, if you're looking for an excuse to support a trip to Texas Linux Fest and you want to include a pick in your message, I'd love to have that.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Of course, we're going to be wrapping up this whole getting to Texas Linux Fest. and essentially next Sunday. It's kind of the last one before we're hitting the road. And it's getting really close, you guys. It's getting really close. Also, I'll put a link to Hyper Vibe. It's on my GitHub. I'd love you to go check it out.
Starting point is 01:10:51 We'll maybe fix up some of this stuff and we'll do a new commit. Should probably have done a commit before we got down this route. But I'd love you to check it out and give me your feedback. We'll have that link to the show notes. And if you give KDE Linux at go, we'd love to also capture that experience too. We will be live next week. See you next week. Same bad time.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Same bad station. That's right. Make it a Tuesday on a Sunday. Join us 10 a.m. Pacific, 1 p.m. Eastern. You can get more show that way. We always have the Mumble Room going and our live chat. But we have a pro tip for folks, Wes, before we get out of here. We have a couple extra benefits.
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Starting point is 01:11:38 Thanks to what we talked about, Linuxunplug.com slash six, three, two. Thank you so much for joining us on this week's episode of your Unplug program. See you right back here. Next Sunday! Thank you. Thank you.

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