LINUX Unplugged - A Kernel in Every Core

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

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Hello, friends, and welcome back to your weekly Linux talk show. My name is Chris. My name is Wes. And my name is Brent. Hello, gentlemen. Well, coming up on the show today, a new proposal would bring proper multi-curnal support to Linux. I'm not talking to VM, but multiple kernels on one machine. Many have tried, but this week, it may actually become a reality.

Plus, we'll get you caught up on a batch of news before we hit the road for Texas Linux Fest that you need to know about. Then we'll round out the show with some great shout-out, some picks, and a lot more. So before we go any further, let's say time-appropriate greetings to our virtual log. Hello, Mumble Room. Hello. Hey, Chris. Hi, hi, Jason. Hello, burnt. I saw a couple of you pop in there for the hello and then pop out. We got the quiet listening and we got the on-air.

A bunch of Mumble pros. They are. They know what's up. You know, they're out on a Sunday. the nice thing about Mumble, too, is you can listen on the phone. I bet you a lot of the people in quiet listening are on their phone. Let me know in the live chat if you're listening on your phone in Mumble right now. I just have a sense of it. And maybe that's why they're in quiet listening.

And, of course, go check out our friends at Defined networking. Define.net slash unplugged. They're the creators of the Nebula VPN, a decentralized VPN built on the open source Nebula project, which we're kind of nuts about. I have to be honest, we've been following it since the moment they went public. public because it's optimized for speed, simplicity, they have industry leading security, and you can completely self-host it or you can take advantage of their managed product. And if you go to define.net slash unplugged, you can try it out with 100 hosts absolutely free,

no credit card required. I have been slowly learning and building my Nebula network. I came across a really cool tool called Nebula Tower. It's a really nice web UI to manage your Nebula Mesh network. I don't think it's the direction I'm going to go, but I remember in early days of Wiregard where it started to really get adopted from not just Enterprise, but moved into the community like Nebula has been doing. And you started to see projects like this crop up. And they just kept getting better and better and better. So I've been talking to the boys. And when we get back from Texas Linux Fest, we're going to do like a fabulous network makeover for me. And I'm going all Nebula, baby. I'm going all Nebula. I just, I love, I love the tech.

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Not even sure we can pay for the way Every wrong turn makes a story new But Texas Lenox Fest is what we're born to do It's coming up Just 14 days away October 3rd through the 4th At the Commons Conference Center in Austin, Texas Really, I put nine days, but it's a lot less from that The next time we're doing a Linux unplugged

Brent will be on the road And if he's not, he's not going to make it on time. So that's exciting. That's a good way to measure it. Hey, Brent, are you on road? Yes or no. And even if you are on road, I think I'll have a good sense, based on your location, if you're going to beat us or not. Are you tracking me? I think, well, no, I'll just know when you stop to do the show and you tell me where you're at, I'll be able to base it on that.

And so I think, and then I'll know if Wes and I have a good shot or not, but I'm feeling really good. We're going to beat them down there. Hey. Hey. I'm just feeling it. I'm feeling it. Don't even have to speed. You will eat all the good food without you.

Yeah. Just a friendly bet. Just a friendly bet. We're doing pretty good. We'll have an update on how the fundraising is going to. I mean, we are stacking your support to get us down there. It's an audience-funded trip, and we're crazy, and you're crazy. We really appreciate it.

And while we're down there, we're also going to celebrate the 12th birthday, the 12th anniversary of your unplugged program. Very excited. Check it out. Meetup.com slash Jupiter Broadcasting. If you're going to be in the Austin area, Saturday during the break at Texas Linux Festival, we're going to sneak out, have a little get to get. At the, right now, we could always change it, but I guess it's, the turnstile coffee beer cocktail and burgers turnstil i don't know but they got everything that's

what i do know and um yeah you had it right with turnstile you'll have to grab your own food and drinks we're doing this on a shoestring budget but it should be a lot of fun but we can eat them together that's true and i got some good news if you are going to texas linux festival you can use the promo code jb15 and take 15% off your registration save a little bit of money while you're going to one of the best little fess around. I'm really looking forward to it. And I'm just so grateful for everybody that's helping us get there, and we'll have an update on that in just a moment.

Well, in a few moments. But before we get into the show, I also wanted to give a shout out to Mr. Larval over at Foronix, who is one of the true workhorses of original reporting in Linux media. And I think he also gets unfairly maligned on R Linux as sort of a meme. The guy works, than just about anybody out there. And, you know, we can recognize a hard worker when we see one, and it's, he's going all the time.

And there's really not enough people doing actual original reporting, let alone things like benchmarking, if you like them or not. And every now and then he runs a sale, and he's running one now through the end of September. And you can get the Octoberfest rate, which is the, I guess, reduced rate of $45 per year. No, that's the full rate. Oh, okay. It's just... Oh, it's now down to 30. Yep, or 150 for a lifetime subscription.

And there's, you know, I think Feronix has been getting just hammered by the changing ad market, which sucks for everybody. But additionally, advances in ad blocking technology have also been hammering foronics. And if we lost Feronics as a community resource, I think the open source discussion, I think reporting, a discovery about new things that are getting worked on, some of the things we're going to talk about in this very episode would be much harder to come across, would probably go unnoticed in most cases. He's doing a real service out there, and I hope he can

keep going. So if you've, even if you're not a regular reader, but you support somebody that's contributing directly to the ecosystem and has been at it for many years. We'll put a link to the deal for Foronics in the show notes. No relation. He didn't ask us to plug it. He doesn't even know we're plugging it. I just feel strongly that he does good work over there and wanted to give him a little bit of love right here at the top of the show. And with all of that, we have some news that we wanted to cover with you before we hit the road. The big one this week is Gnome 49 is out, and it's a big shift in the quality of life of using Gnome

because a couple of classic apps, love it or hate it, have been replaced with more modern designed apps. Of course, we have deeper whalen and remote desktop capabilities as well. I think the ones I'll just, I'll say it up front. This is the bad news, okay? Totem and events, or however you say it. Evens? Yep.

Long, long, especially totem. long goodome staples. I was a big lover of Totem. They are officially retired in Goodome 49, replaced with Showtime and Papers, which are using GTK4 and Libid Wadia Foundations. So they look a little bit more modern, take advantage of some of the newer stuff.

That's all right. What are they as good as our old-time panels, Chris? I mean, they're pretty good. I like them. There's just so many options in the space, too, that I'm not particularly... I honestly, I've moved from Totem to just MPV for the most case. I just run an MPV.

But it's nice to see, And the other thing to keep in mind is Gnome 49 is what you'll be using in Fodora 43 and Ubuntu 2510, which are just around the corner. So you'll be seeing these changes relatively soon. You know, what's interesting about the replacement of Totem and events is that it kind of signals that Gnome is willing to leave behind those legacy apps for, I guess, moving the desktop forward. As you mentioned, Chris, accessibility is also moving forward. So that calendar now works entirely with keyboard navigation. I know you're a big keyboard guy these days. Hey, oh, that's nice.

Also, it looks like the browser. Web is gaining better ad blocking and regional filter list just out of the box. I don't know if you guys have tried Ghanome Web or just web, but it's a pretty nice little basic browser. It's sort of like a Safari equivalent. You could just use it for a few things. I mean, it's not my go-to browser, but it's nice to see ad-blocking out of the box,

especially as Chromium or Chrome, removes Manifest 3 support. There are new security dialogues as well and some sandboxed image loading, smart card support. So Gnome is like baking in stronger defenses by default, which I find attractive. And community-wise, Gnome Circles is growing with apps like Workbook and Majong reinforcing that Gnome ecosystem, not just a desktop. Yeah, there are a good collection of apps. Yeah, you mentioned web, the native Gnome web browser. Well, it got open search integration as well, smarter bookmarks, and enhanced password dialogues, which is small. But, you know, having password dialogues that work well and get properly picked up all the time, that's one way to not annoy me when I'm using a web browser.

And it's interesting to see this focus on improving that kind of across the different apps as well. The one I hear everybody talking about is HDR support. Oh, yeah. Yeah, well, of course, in mutter with 16-bit color depth, no less. 16-bit. 16-bit. I thought, okay. So it's working on paving the way for professional-grade color workflows.

I don't think we're all the way there, but we have to keep unlocking all the pieces if we are ever to get there. Yeah, I was commenting last week, Plasma 6-5 is really just polished up that remote desktop experience. I know that's a thing in 49 as well. They've been working on that. You get multi-touch support in there now. multi-touch forwarding, relative mouse input for games, and games and remote desktop. Virtual monitors. That is sweet.

Right? That is sweet. It's been kind of fascinating to see these remote desktop. We kind of recently talked about the improvements on the plasma side of the fence. And, yeah, things are getting a lot better. This is one of the sketchier stories when we started this whole whaling business and really for quite a long time. Yeah. Gnome Software saw some re-engineering of how it parses and handles flatpacked

repos, which reduces memory usage, nice for low resource devices, especially as the world moves more and more to flat packs, so you kind of almost have to use them. And this release continues Gnome's strategy of amazing out X-11.

Yes. In fact, I think they're doing that pretty hard in the next Fedora as well. You still have some time, but I think by 50, you're S-O-L. Yeah, you're just, it's not, Gnome on X won't be an option for you. Of course, X-Wailing and stuff is still there. You'll be able to run apps, but in terms of having it at the base, no.

50, I guess, is a nice round number to remember when it happens. Are you boys also impressed with the seemingly just march towards improving security? I've noticed it over the last few releases. Little things to tighten up security, be it with flat packs, be it with this new password dialogue to make it clear what you're doing. They seemingly are baking a lot of little things in there. Like, this didn't get a lot of attention, but they've reworked the way the login screen works. So the media controls can't be used to bypass the screen. The accessibility menu is

redone in a way that avoids bypassing the login screen. It's also earlier of an option now, so you have more accessibility earlier in the process. And the reboot shutdown menu is now guarded by a G setting, which I guess there was a way to sort of do a DDoS abuse against that and force a reboot against the system. Like they've reworked that stuff. They've improved the security profile in Gnome Web. On remote desktop, they've done things there that are, this implementation is much more secure than how we used to do remote desktop.

And then you have sand, I think the bigger change in Gnome 49 overall is the sandboxed image loading in GtK apps. Because wildly enough, loading an image can be an attack vector. Yeah, I mean, here you've got to go parse this arbitrary, binary

file that's just being handed to you. So now they're isolating it and the image loading is done in the sandbox. And that is one we've seen in the wild multiple times over the years. Yeah, that's great. I think it's important for a lot of reasons, but in particular, it's nice to have an answer to some of these questions that get brought up as our competitor desktops advance on these fronts, too,

especially maybe in like an enterprise or IT environment. Right. I mean, it's a great space to differentiate in, and it definitely would appeal to enterprise customers that are using this in that space. And we've seen a lot of more, you know, sandboxing and security controls baked in it like the system D layer and on the server side of things for a while now. So it's definitely needed.

Well, you know, you heard me mention Ubuntu. You heard me mention Fedora. Let's do a little distro news roundup. Brentley, you want to take the new Ubuntu beta? Indeed. Canonical this week's released the Ubuntu 2510 beta. So they're working towards the stable 2510, which is due in about mid-October.

They're calling it Questa. I got to get this one right. Questing Quoka. Quoka? Yeah, okay. Well, let's hear you say, Chris, you're great... I'm going to say Quoka. That's what...

Yeah, I think you're requesting Quoka. That beta lands with Colonel 617, Gnome 49, and updates across every single flavor. So if you want to kick the tires before that final release, October 9th, give it a go. Tell us what you think. As we noted before, also, Ubuntu now has the dangerous desktop images, which, you know, if you put danger on there, we're going to try it. That was announced recently, and those images are... are being produced on a daily basis. It's built with all the seated snaps switched from the stable channel to edge,

including Firefox, the Snap Store, Thunderbird, and a bunch more. Now, those images are explicitly not for reliable production use. That's the responsible thing for us to say here. Yeah, got to say that. Of course, you're going to use it, right? You're going to, this is going to be your daily driver. Well, yeah, we've got to do something crazy on the trips. I will say, just, you know, from our weird perspective,

I am loving this, like, between KDE Linux now being thing, between these existing. Right. And we already had GnomOS, which has nightlies. Like, it makes it super easy to try the stuff as it's coming out, as it's getting updated, as it's getting shaped without having to, like, maintain some system that I'm updating all the time. I can just make a fresh VM. That's true.

Dip in, try it. Dip out. I do like that. That's good to see. So it's now a daily danger. And it makes me feel, yeah, dangerous. That makes it cool, right? Yeah, well, absolutely makes it cool.

While we're talking about fresh Ubuntu, there was a wee bit of controversy this week. I guess some bug reports came out showing some performance issues, like in Chexom tool, 17 times slower than the Ganoon non-rust version on large files. A couple of other issues cropped up as well. Of course, we've covered this transition Ubuntu is making to some new rust core utilities in place of the Ganoon core utils. in place of the Gnu core utilities. And these performance issues are probably not too unexpected, but a 17X slower result definitely got some attention. Developers are actively patching and then benchmarking to see if they can get it better.

Of course, they have time before the Ubuntu release. But it did generate a lot of, ha, I told you so kind of comments, which you always see in the community. But, you know, they fixed one of them already. What do you think, Wes? Are we going to end up shipping these things and they're going to, you know,

maybe not be 70 next slower, but do you think we're going to live for a while with four or five times slower? I mean, we'll see where it ends up performance-wise, yeah, probably not exact parity out of the gate. I do think the real story is that this is the level of issue that we're running into along this path.

Oh, ooh, I didn't expect. Okay, right. Because if performance is the issue, then that means you're getting the interface largely correct, right? Like all the other stuff, the quirks, the behavior in scripting application, you know, like wherever else it might appear. If that breaks, you kind of notice that

before you ever get to the performance side of things. That's a fair point. Okay. All right. I like that. And I think it's worth giving a bunch of credit for being willing to go out here because this is exactly the kind of like,

okay, go try it in a whole bunch of places, kind of feedback to let the developers, like, actually find and fix these things. I was surprised to see so many people not understand why they're making this change. And I seem to recall multi-core support, or multi-core, multi-architecture support was one of the

big reasons. And people seem to forget that, but I know that's a challenge still for it, like it's not 100%. And that's one of the, but to this end, I feel like this is not worth the, sort of the pushback it gets, because we're talking about Ubuntu. We're not

talking about all Linux distributions, and it's actually a good thing to have one of these distributions experiment like this. And of course, you You can install the C versions if you want. There you go. Okay, well, not to be left out, of course. Fedora 43 is also right around the corner. And there are beta ISOs available for testing.

Ooh, I always love that. Of course, you're going to get that fresh Gnome 49 in there, aren't you? Yeah, of course. And Linux 617 as well. And you've got a modernized tool chain under the hood, GCC-15.2, L-OVM-21, G-GLPMC-242, NRPM-6.O. Hey, that's pretty fresh. All right. Also, I think we're going to see the Anaconda Web UI move out, right? Yes. So last time around we saw it only on Workstation. Yeah. So now it's migrating over into the spins by default. And I guess before it was actually still using TNF4. Oh. So now it's using DNF5 under the hood, which is, as we know, a major improvement to DNF. Much faster. Yeah. Okay. They're making tweaks. And I don't really follow it, but they're making tweaks to how they produce the CoreOS Bootsie stuff as well. Something we could do.

dig more into, I think. Yeah, there's a lot of sort of build system improvements going on under the hood, which is maybe a little harder to see up at just the user layer, but it's important as things like, you know, the atomic side of the fence advances, and as has been

stated, is going to be, you know, the future of this whole thing. Something to follow for sure. I think maybe late October, early November, you know, sometimes that can shift around with the Fedora release. I think they're doing pretty good on timing so far, though. You know, they're kind of on target. It does seem so. Yeah, absolutely.

We do also see, speaking of Atomic, Fedorikinoite, Discover is now going to be automatically updating the system in a safe fashion via RPM OS tree staged updates. So Kenoite getting some nice reliability improvements. Ah, interesting. You know, I've been using Aurora still on my studio machine here because I don't really reload this until I have to. And I have the auto update feature turned on, and I just reboot from time to time and get the new stuff. and I think right now that's being held I don't think that's being handled

by Discover I think Discover's just handling the flat packs could be wrong on that actually though I don't think it's handling the flatbacks either when I think about it interesting interesting

it's really of course I'm sure it's being handled under the hood and Discover is the top top of the beast but right right so if you install

you're just going to get automatic updates now interesting well our friends over at Omar Archie hit 3.0 and this is a big one because they're now

introducing their own standalone installer, which is supposedly very fast. We'll talk to Wes about that in a moment. They have MacBook support for some of the T1 and T2 generation MacBooks, and lots of polish in here. So it's getting to like serious daily driver. Now, some folks online have been reporting a two-minute install entirely offline, and it's a 10th the size of Mac OS. And being able to now just install it simply on decade-old MacBooks means easily putting a Linux development environment on Apple hardware that has been long abandoned. And to me, I think this is a notable moment for the Omar Archie project with a downloadable standalone installer. They go from a script

you run on Arch to, you know, a real distro. This feels like a moment to me. It also feels like a little bit of residue or a change from that Arch DDoS that we saw a couple weeks ago. So I think an offline first ISO seems like a win in that regard just to protect themselves from upstream projects. What do you think? Yeah, I agree. And it may also, maybe, maybe not, it depends on what's all on there, but it would give you an easier maybe opportunity to, you know, have a safe install point that works behind various corporate firewalls, that kind of thing. You want me to, uh... Do you want to try it? Yeah, I got it ready for you through the miracle of KVM.

So we have it running right here on a laptop right now. I like the low-key style. I select my keyboard, I'm going to say English. My username is going to be Wes, of course. I thought we always did Chris F now. Oh, yeah, right. And my passwords, Brent, like it always is, of course. Oh, I have to type it again. But you use the French spelling of Brent.

Yeah. Rui. Well, we. Full name is Wes. Email address is Wes at west.com. Ah, yeah. I can't believe I snagged that one. That was really quite the win.

Okay, so I'm just doing like host name stuff and selecting my time zone, which is auto-detected. it. Now I have a nice little box to review everything, and I'm saying yes. I can select. Do you mind what disc I choose? It's fine? No, yeah. It has just the one. Yeah, let's wipe everything. Okay, I'm going to format Wes's disc. It is installing Omar Archie now. Just that part right there. Pretty smooth experience, right? Yeah, especially if you weren't just jerking around and you knew the names you were going to use for stuff already. Like that would go, you just bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, and you had a password. Okay, it says installing. All right, getting the keys, formatting the disc. Wiping the partition, I do love how fast this is.

This is really great. Creating dev slash VDA locking me in a virtual machine. Probably be even faster on physical. Oh, yeah, totally. Also, this is not a high-performance machine. No. It's a good laptop, but it is not a new laptop. It's an 8th gen.

Eighth Gen I-7. So it's got some age on it. But it's a nice trusty think bad. So now I can see the packages. It's installing a lot of what you would expect. It's checking the camera. Oh, I love this. It better be installing stuff because it's taken up seven gigs.

I love this, actually. I just think this is just enough interface to tell you what it's doing without needing to be much more. Yeah, it's kind of a clean log. I show that stuff in the graphical ones anyway. I know not everyone does. I love it when they let me expand the details and I can see what's happening. It's basically that. Especially if something takes a while.

Like, maybe you see that there are updates in the log that the UI doesn't communicate. I also just like to get a sense of what packages are going in. And I even love it. if it gives you version information. True. Yeah. That's really nice. All right.

So I look like, it looks like I am running. Brent, you're doing the stopwatch, right? I am running a build hook for Linux 6.16.7 for a module right now. Fresh up-to-day kernel. Yeah. That's nice to see. So I think it's basically done if I'm on kernel modules, right? We're getting pretty close.

Yep. It is, in fact, now creating a boot image. It is updating the information. It is checking for old pearl modules. Update the info directory. My keyboard is set to U.S. And running the boot hook. Yeah, I think it's done.

That is really something. Well, we've got to reboot and see if it worked, right? It is really amazing to see them go to their own ISO like this. It does feel like a different era. This is not just like when we started with Omicube, and it was just sort of... Run the script. Install Stalkabuntu, run this badge script.

Yeah. Or even early OMA Archie was, you know, install stock arch. And even just getting... stock arch installed is a pretty big barrier for people that just have a Saturday afternoon to try this. It's a lot easier than it used to be, but it still takes some know-how. I also think the audience

he's targeting, they want more to mess around with the workflow and to see if it can replace their macOS workflow than they want to mess around with installing Arch. That's not what they're there for. They're there to see, will this workflow be comparable? Can I just use this as a better dev station?

And this lets them get right to that. That's the thing here. Here you go. So it's, yeah, it's, uh, oh, it's updating. I think it's updating. So it's done, but I think it's updated. Oh, I figured out that it had network access. Yeah.

All right. Well, we'll see if it gets me to a workable desktop before we end in the segment. That is really cool. So, I mean, huge for them, right? And if you do a little digging, too, you get a sense. There's a strong community building behind this. I think I want to say they crossed 20,000 in their discord now. Well, yeah, I heard their, uh, the community's adding a bunch of,

of like theming tweaks, Chris, that's kind of your thing these days, but also a bunch of hot keys and aesthetic polishes. And it feels like a distro that's shaped by the community more than, well, definitely more than corporate roadmaps, but the pace of development, like, from going from this Bash script to this, what you guys are saying is a beautiful installer in what has it been like a small number of weeks? Yeah, it feels like it. There's also something else happening here that's maybe noteworthy. Arch isn't a corporate distro. Hyperland isn't a corporate desktop environment, and DHH and his

reg tag crew building this aren't a big corporation either. These are all either small to micro businesses to not even a business that have created something unique on their own, and it's all building together. And the reason why I think that's noteworthy is because a lot of of the other distributions and desktop environments that have so much momentum behind them do have corporate sponsorship at some level. Perhaps the developer gets

paid by a corporation or something like that. And it's a corporation creating the distribution. Maybe it's canonical. Maybe it's red hat, etc. And here we have Arch Linux, a community project. We have Hyperland which is really made by Vaxry, one developer, and I don't know how many other contributors, which is a truly remarkable,

fantastic, well-polished desktop environment that's really, really come into its own recently. And then you have DHH who's fanatically passionate about the learning aspect, right? That's what I think is unique here, is that he learns. He goes out and he just spends hundreds of hours learning, and then he comes back and he builds on that, and he shares it with his team, and he gets people fired up. And like that, that is a great, all that coming together is just such an incredible combination that I think is making this a unique distribution.

and a lot of people in the Linux community that have been around for a while are sleeping on this because they're not following this cohort of users. I also think it's such a nice example of, I mean, we talk a lot about the downsides of the Linux and open source ecosystem where you have tons of options,

you have to put stuff together yourself or select the pieces you want. But the flip side of that is, you know, you can see small shops or individual actors come in and really have a lot of leverage because there's so many things you can and are encouraged to build on top of.

And I think that's what enables someone with a vision, you know, like DHS, to really have a great palette of brushes to use here. Don't you think it's, I mean, I know I'm sort of, maybe I'm stuck on this, but we went from like... You miss the really cute animation it does when it finishes. Oh, yeah, yeah, I know. It's installed in five minutes and 43 seconds.

Not bad for a VM. On an older machine, too. The thing that people are missing in our space is this went from zero to a distro people or actively using and talking about adopting. And I say that quite confidently because I'm consistently seeing the user testimonies every day, multiple user testimonies. There's momentum behind this. And to me, it's remarkable that we went from, here's our top four distros, or here's the distro landscape as we know it.

And it's sort of been set in stone for a few years. The last big disruption we had was Santos becoming Sentos Stream. Yeah, it looks great. Full dust up, ready to go. That looks great. And then Amicube comes around and that creates a little bit of disruption. But Omar Archie comes around and we're really seeing something. And it's incredible that another distro could carve out some space by addressing the right market.

And what market was that? It wasn't people that have never used a computer. It was people that were actually willing to go out and maybe buy a new computer like a B-link. It was people that were willing to install Arch and understood how to run a bash script, people that were down with the idea of navigating their interface with a keyboard using key bindings and a tiling desktop.

They weren't people that needed something that worked like Windows. They were people that were looking for something that wasn't MacOS. They were looking for something truly unique, innovative, and powerful. That's where Linux shines. And we've been spending so much time

focused on trying to make Linux work for these new pretend-use that this market was left wide, gaping open for someone to fill, and DHH filled it. And it's crazy to me that everybody slept on this. And the fact that Framework and BLink are the hardware partners that are manufacturers that are benefiting from this is also an indication that other folks in our community missed an opportunity here. There's a lot of reflection that should be going on by the creators of Ubuntu, Fedora, over at Sist. System 76. All these people should be asking why they've missed this and why they're still missing it right now and why it takes a podcaster to tell them about it and why you aren't

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System D 258 is out. The latest major feature release to, of course, the famous system. And it brings a feature that I have yet to wrap my head around, but seems like a big one, called System D Factory Reset. You can now request a factory reset on the next reboot. Yeah, it's kind of more of a framework than anything else. It's a set of units and hook points that enable you system maintainers, distribution providers, IT people, to set up factory reset like. capability. A lot of it, especially in its sort of default state, relies on the system D repart tool under the hood, which can kind of look at partition information and redo or refresh partitions. It'd be really interesting to see KD Linux take advantage of this. Oh, yeah. I've already using system D for so much stuff. Yeah, absolutely.

We also see the final, like, cleanup of C Groups version one and the original system v. In it compatibility, sort of like just some legacy stuff being removed, which notable. We were still using Intel in it. Sorry, that's going away. Also, the baseline kernel required moves to Linux 5.4 now, with warnings that 5.10 will be required soon. I appreciate how that sounds old, but then I SSHed into an Enterprise distro the other day, and it's on a kernel older than that.

So... Hey, try Colonel 6, folks. Come on in the water, it's fine. It's on a 0.17 release, and people are still running Colonel 5 something. I want to say, don't hold me to it, but I want to say it was Colonel 5, too. So you had SSH access, but didn't want to do something about it?

Oh, well, it wasn't my box. I was on somebody else's box, yeah. That's kind of you. There's also some new tooling coming in here. I think some of this is really to make Boot CTL and Boot Z work a little bit better. System D, Pty, Y, forward sounds pretty interesting, as well as reboot on air feature sounds pretty interesting. Just a lot of themes here,

getting rid of some of the legacy stuff, simplifying and modernizing other areas, potentially breaking some older setups. I think that's something the community should be aware of. Now, there's some community impactications, like you're saying, Chris. The removal of that

SIS-V-In-Nit scripts, those scripts in 259, it's a bit of a symbolic milestone, so the long migration to native system D.D.U. It's definitely enforced here. So for those stragglers out there, expect more and more friction. They must have moved off

System D by now. Oh, sure. Oh, yeah. Well, those legacy admin habits like Init 3 and Force FSCK and others are being retired as well. That might just frustrate some traditionalists, but it also

declotters, well, Linux for the next decade. I will admit, I will admit, you kids don't know the pleasure of just doing a knit 3 and then just bringing down so much stuff, just collapsing it down to like a basic headless system. And then, depending on the box, you know, you might do a Knit 5 if this was a graphical system. And then a whole bunch of more stuff would come up. And what was really neat about it is you felt like you could tear down

parts of Linux without having to reboot the whole system. So, so it, run level 5 was like all your applications, your GUI, all that stuff. And run level three was like a, for my setup, it was like a lean, mean, tight server. Nobody used run. level four. Come on, let's be honest. So when you drop down to three, you are just killing a ton of stuff and kind of bringing it down to just a base headless Linux box, which was always solid and reliable. And the graphics stack was always, the issues were always in the graphics stack. And then just hit it hit a net five, bo bo bo, bo, but bring it back up. I do miss that. And you could do things like, you know, in System D, you could restart your

login manager and things like that. But it just ain't the same, boys. It ain't the same. Ain't the same. I miss it. Well, hopefully this helps you. So there's some unprivileged access that's expanding. Is that helping? I do like that. Android debug ports, AV lights, and unprivileged VM and container networking. Okay. So that balance between security and usability. It might be shifting in ways you like. I do. I think that is a nice change to see. That said, this release might divide camps a little bit further. So power users gain fine grade controls, but those minimalist and, well, the anti-SystemD communities will see more reasons to resist newer versions. Yeah, like Wes.

Yeah, I'm a big Devon guy. Yeah, I know you are. You just don't run it yet, but I know you are. So how do you feel about any of this, Wes? Any of this jump out at you is notable? I mean, yeah, there's a lot of house clean. I think it, like many system D releases, there's just so much in there we can really only talk about kind of the highlights. But it reminds you of the scope of System D, of just all of the things.

things it can do. It doesn't have to do all of them, but it really can do a ton of things. It's, you know, so so long, C Groups v1, it's been, it's been a great run. Yeah. C Groups v2. I think everyone likes a whole lot better, though. That is a very long transition. That is one of the longer transitions we've come along. And I think it's just because so much container early infrastructure was based on the C Groups V1. And so it just took time to transition. Some stuff I saw that stood out to me just from recent things I've worked on,

like that mesh module and a few other just system administration things, the protect host name unit setting now accepts a new value called private, which is similar to yes, but allows the units processes to modify the host name. So it sort of gets its own unique private host name that it can change for itself inside its little

sort of containerized environment. All right. All just set up with system date. Okay. Also now, for the wider host name, it can include question mark characters, which when red will be initialized by hexadecimal digits hashed from the machine ID.

I think we talked about this when it was proposed a little bit. This is useful when managing a fleet of devices that should each have a valid and distinct host name but generated in a predictable fashion. This could be really nice for your brother's store. Brent, I could see that like a, you know, just to bring it home a little bit. That's a great point.

Deploying a handful of systems, yeah. Small thing, but mount units, which you can use to sort of define things for System D to mount. Yeah. They now support System D credentials, things like load credential, set credential, import credential. So you can have System D basically go grab credentials you have in a protected place on the system and then make it available for that unit automatically without having to like yourself handle all the permissions.

Yeah. In a clean way. Or you can have encrypted credentials. Anyway, I think it was definitely a miss before that mount units could not do this. Say if you're trying to set up some sort of network mount that needs a password or some key or something. There's also, I'm excited to read more about this one. There's a new setting, delegate namespaces for units, which controls which type of namespaces to delegate to the invoked units. This primarily controls if the listed namespace type shall be owned by the host user namespace or by the private user namespace of the unit. So I think this is going to give you a little bit more control over just which namespaces are sandboxed or not. Okay. That's great. And as Brent kind mentioned, there is some, like, improvements, especially around SystemD VM spawn, which is a

newer tool that's just like, and you have SystemDN spawn, which does containers, VM spawn does VMs for you. And you now have access to unprivileged user networking, so your VMs can just, like, get sort of good enough networking out of the gate without very much fuss. That is so appreciated. And on the container side of the fence, you can now do unprivileged execution of container images stored in plain directories. So you can just sort of have like your container stuff laying around in the old file and quickly spin up a container of it. Huh. Just a note, it looks like I'm going through the release notes here, they actually are recommending Linux 514 as the minimum version now with this current release. You can make it work with 510, but they're actually going to recommend 514 just to make that clear.

That's a pretty big jump going from what they have now. A lot of this, West, when you mention it, if I disassociate myself as a long-term Linux user and how big SystemD is getting and how much SystemD does now, and I just think of Linux as a technology platform, I'm honestly surprised it didn't do some of this already. And it does show you why we need a project like SystemD to kind of handle some of these things that it's really nobody's job right now to properly do it. manage or make available.

And a lot of the stuff would be stuff probably that various downstream distributions or providers would have to figure out. And the way we used to do it, for some of this stuff, is just, you know, a bunch of different implementations. Well, and like the system reset stuff, right? That could be one example that in the future, maybe there's some standardization around that. Yeah.

Yeah, so it's a big one. It's a brickin West. It's a big in, but I'm looking forward to it. I still haven't played around with the new system D-Home D stuff. That's still on my list. I want to check that out too. And the big story this week, there is an RFC. This is all in the request for proposal stage,

but there is some example code to introduce multi-colonal architecture support to Linux. So typically there's one Linux kernel. It runs the show. It manages all the CPUs and the memory. And then if you want to run an additional kernel, you do that in a VM. But a developer by the name of,

Wang just proposed something different. It's multi-colonal support where each CPU can run its own kernel. Say you've got a 12-core CPU. Would you like to run 12 individual Linux kernels? Yeah, isn't this an absolutely delightfully kind of fun idea? Screw VMs! Yeah, exactly. So far, I mean, it's definitely early days.

It's just a proposal. It's kind of just starting the basics of what you would need to have any of this be testable or workable. So it's about like 1,400 lines of code change, basic features, like there's this proposal for sort of how do you have the kernels do interprocess or inter kernel communication between them, especially to manage sort of like devices and stateful stuff. Which has been, I did a little deep dive, huh, and that has been a major contention point for different ideas, going back to like 2002. But sorry, just like how you messes. There's a rich and long history of these kinds of ideas for sure. Brentley for Posterity, would you like to read the patch note that came in? Yeah, Kong wrote in the Linux kernel mailing list.

This patch introduces multi-kernel architecture support, enabling multiple independent kernel instances to coexist and communicate on a single physical machine. Each kernel instance can run on dedicated CPU cores while sharing the underlying hardware resources. This is great. And Wes, I'm sure you noticed. that they're building on top of K-Exec to make this happen.

Yeah, that's right. The first part of this is a new K-Execl multi-colonel flag that requests a new kernel be booted on a specific CPU. It has to be offline. The CPU has to be offline first. And right now you can only assign a single CPU to any given kernel. So you can't say have like,

oh, I want this kernel to run with two of the CPUs. It's sort of one-for-one right now. And I think it's kind of specific to X-86-64. because there's a whole bunch of assembly magic, at least for now. Yeah, and then right now there's kind of a sketch for what this inter-cernel communication mechanism would be like. There's shared memory areas that are set aside for moving data between the kernels.

There is base infrastructure present to start, but there are no actual users of it yet or examples of using it. Sure. And, of course, a real-world system running in this mode would clearly need, you know, some kind of, like, a lot of stuff implemented on top of this system to be able to actually...

To manage it. Yes. And not to mention, I'm sure that eventually security issues would be discovered and all of that.

But it really is a crazy concept that you could run multi-curals, maybe even different versions of the kernel and come up with a way for them to talk to each other

is absolutely wild. Now, remember, RFC at this point, trying to get feedback on the design. There is some example code in there. It would create a slash prox slash multi-colonel entry

where you could monitor. to this. And you can go see which kernels are running on all of your CPUs. Can we just take a moment and appreciate how something so extremely complex comes down to slash prox slash multi-colonel? It's just an entry on your... It sounds cool, too. So like I said, I did a little bit of digging around.

You could call it, I suppose, a wee bit of a deep dive. Right then. Let's get ourselves settled in for a wee deep dive. I saw different proposals for this going quite a ways back, but in 2009, it seemed like Microsoft might actually be getting pretty close. And I'll put the PDF in the show notes. It's called the Multicournal, a new OS architecture for scalable multi-core systems.

And they called it Project Perilfish. And the idea was a totally clean slate, brand new OS, that treats each core like a separate machine. And then all the coordination would be done inside this complex messaging bus that they created, but they couldn't share any data. And they felt that this design would be,

extremely scalable and it was elegant, but the reality was it just simply wasn't practical. And it really, and in the PDF, you can see it kind of, it comes down to this communication that they didn't work out. Whereas Wang's 2025 RFC seems a little bit more practical, right? It's building on existing tools like K-Exec. It does have fault isolation. It does let you run multiple kernels, but it would be using more conventional ways to communicate between them that kind of exists. We have to be modified. But Right, it's not a whole cloth, clean slate implementation like Microsoft's idea was. So you could probably get a little bit closer.

Yeah, you did see some interaction on the list, too, from the proposal other people who had tried kind of similar ideas. Wang mentioned a few specific advantages, like you said, fault isolation, security, better efficiency than virtualization, perhaps, and the ease of zero downtime updates in conjunction with the K-exec handover mechanism. That's cool. Yeah, which we talked about recently, which we talked about recently, which is a sort of more structured way to be able to pass data from one kernel into the next running kernel. This gets interesting, too, if you could dedicate specific hardware. So you could have maybe a machine that has multiple video cards in it or multiple network cards in it,

and you could allocate them. And so it's one box, but everything is running on physical hardware. Also, there might be the ability in the future to run special purpose kernels, as long as it's loadable by K-exec, I assume, such as, say, a real-time kernel that you just need to do like a subset of processing on a subset of course. This is just crazy. If you have any ideas what you would use a multi-colonal setup for,

boost in and give me a few ideas. Because I'm thinking part of the reason why this hasn't really been achieved yet is maybe there isn't huge demand. But I also wonder if we lived in a version of history, if this came along before VMs, would we have just gone this route, perhaps? Yeah, good question. I mean, I think probably there's still some use case for VMs,

but this is a fascinating extra bit of flexibility. I don't mean to imply this replaces VMs, especially because it's like one core, all that. But you do think early on, VMs were not great. They were really rough. They were not as nearly performant as they were. We didn't have hypervisors, right? We had virtualizers.

And this just would have been a dramatic performance improvement back in the day. I just wonder if we would have seen more. of this. And also, like, how can you even, even as limited as this sort of proof of concept is, 1400 lines of code change? That's it. Like, how, what? Yeah. Well, because it's, it is really relying on a lot of stuff, which is what makes me think this actually could happen. Yeah, in my work, there might be enough people who find some kind of use case. Yeah, you can do this with 1400 lines of code and use existing infrastructure like K-Exec and the messaging. I mean, yeah, it could actually happen. It's really exciting. We'll keep an eye on it.

I mean, it's so early days, but it would be a really cool superpower. I want to see how, you know, tools like H-top and B-top have to change to account for handling separate kernels on separate cores. It's for people who like to mess with computers. Okay, so we are asking you to send in your Nix configs so we can do a config confession session next week. We've gotten a couple, but we need more. And we need some janky ones, too, because, like, Matthew wrote him. I got to appreciate he says, hey, I wanted to share my Nix Confisc. and a blog post made about how I use it to self-host.

I want to thank you for introducing me to it. It's given me the ability to try and fail safely. I'm happy to get feedback on the config. I know it's not perfect. All right, Matthew, when you open this thing up, it is like a gem of configurations. It's so well structured. Also, just his GitHub page is beautiful.

He has a diagram of the config structure layout right there. How do you beat that? And his self-hosted services. I mean, he's just, and then he's got like a one-liner. He's got a one-liner once you pull down his flake. I mean, the whole thing, he's got guide on how to set it up. This is so well done. And then, and then, like we mentioned, Matthew has a blog post where he shares his build with NixOS, ZFS, tail scale.

His choices he made for privacy, data control, how he made it more usable for his friends and family. You know, and a lot of it's based on trial and error over the years. And he did one of our favorite moves. Matthew has a public VPS, and then he has that come, you know, privately back to a true NAS server to get access to core services. Nice. It is way too nice to criticize. So, you know, I mean, we could probably go through and pick it apart, but I was just so impressed. So it's more likely we'll just be copying, really.

So we're clearing this one out of the gate. It's a good one, and what we're going to do is we're going to have you send your configs in. You can boost in a link or attach a link to an email if you go to our contact page. And then we're going to go through it, and we're going to make it better for you. We're going to tell you what's good. We're going to tell you what's bad. We're only going to be able to do a few per episode, but we'd like you to send them in. We've gotten a couple so far.

And you'll walk away with a better config. Come in, though, with a thick skin. Brent is ruthless. Yeah, how's, how did you feel about the host names here? Hmm. Well, let's talk about it next time. I don't know. I feel like you got to choose wisely. Yeah, I think if Brent doesn't eat before the segment, people better watch out. They better watch out. Unraid.net slash unplugged. Unleash your hardware with Unraid today. It's a powerful operating system that will help you take advantage of the hardware you already have. And it's built on the latest Linux kernel and technologies. It lets you run VMs, containers, mix and match disk, and use the file system of your choice.

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Thank you very much. Love having some new members on board. Now, boys, we did get a nice batch of fake boosts. It's a loving term we have for folks that would like to help us raise funds. to Texas Linux Fest that want to support us without a boost like PayPal, Venmo,

on chain and lightning as well. And last week we were able to secure our Airbnb in Austin. I think we got a nice one too. I thought we were going to have to settle. I mean, I'm not talking it's super fancy,

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Don't tell them that. No, rent it to us. We'll put it back. never knew. You never know. That's true. So now we've got to round out the support for the trip, right? We got the travel down there and back fuel for the car and the van, lodging for three on the trip, food and anything we could scrape together for a birthday meetup. All of that we're still trying to raise funds for. And we have one episode left before we hit the road. So boys, let's see how we did. And we'll start with some fake boost and then we'll get

into the boosts, you know, they're not fake. They're all not, none of them are fake. I'm not trying to be mean. It's just fun. It's a fun name. Who name this thing? Yeah, I know, right? You know, store brand boosts. We also, we had a couple come in just before the show. They'll be captured in next week's batch. All right, let's kick it off. The

Golden Dragon is back. Hey, with 10,000 sats. Sorry, I've been so silent. Life is chaotic with a new job. It's not much, but here's some support to get you down to Texas. Wonderful to hear from you, Dragon. Thank you, Dragon. It is good to hear from you.

Thank you very much. Dave O'Neill fake booths in with 173,228 cents. Whoa. Hey. Look at that. It's interesting using the fake boost mechanism but still doing stats. Love it. Thanks, Dave.

I've been a longtime listener and have some Bitcoin from a few years ago. Hope this helps. Ah, thanks, Dave. It's good to hear. Certainly does. Yeah. Well, Tobias sent in five U.S. dollars saying, I have a nice trip, and I like the show.

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Thank you, Johannes. Appreciate the value. Orion Code came in with $10. Here's support for the trip to Texas Linux Fest. I appreciate the great content over the years and hope to see it continue. Thank you, Orion Code. Nice to hear from you. I'm looking forward to our birthday party down there in Austin.

Connor comes in with 50 USD. Hey-o. Nice. Excited to see y'all in Texas. Excited to see you too. Yeah, Connor. Thank you. Well, Mark, I also came in with 50 USDs saying, hey, I started with that self-hosted show

and moved to Linux Unplugged. I finally caught up from the fictitious point I started at, so paying it forward. I became a member, and, well, here's some gas. for you. Wow. Just started Home Assistant. Yeah.

Where should I start with dashboards, fellas? I have all the things, but it's all a horrible jumble. I got dashboards. I got bad dashboards. Yeah, well, the good news is

they're innovating quickly on dashboards right now with each release, including some new cool automatic dashboards. I think the way to do it is go find some screenshots that inspire you.

Then you'll find the different themes and whatnot. you can install from hacks and get going from there. I have done it mostly by room and function. So, like, I have living room and stuff like that in bathroom areas, but then I also have the heating, and I have the lighting tabs, and I've kind of broken it down like that.

And I've, for most things, I use custom themes for my dashboard. It's a whole new world. Let us know how it goes, and thank you for the fake boost. Thank you, Marku. Veymax is here with $20. Thank you for helping us. Help you, help us all. Here's some snacks for the way down.

Really appreciate the, non-crypto way to support the show. I always appreciate coverage of these meetups since I'm far away from them. May, Max, we're happy to do it for you. Thank you for the support. Appreciate it. DJ in Oakland comes in with

$123 and $45. Hey, you know what that is, right? The streams are crossing. Yeah, the streams are crossing. So the combination is one, two, three, four, five. That is great. Have fun going to Plaid.

But watch out for the wind blow. blowing open tumbleweeds down the trail. So good. Hell was that. Spaceball won. They've gone to Plaid. Thanks, D.J. Well, Nicholas sent in 100 U.S. dollars, saying, thanks. And have a great trip and fest.

Well, thank you. Appreciate it, Nicholas. Ned is here with 20 U.S. greenbacks. This is a tasty burger. Shout out from London, sending some boost to help towards the Linux Fest. I've been listening to the podcast since Health, self-hosted 150. Rest in peace, and I wanted to show some support. Thanks for the awesome show.

Well, thank you, Ned. Nice to hear from you. Really appreciate the support from London. It's pretty funny. Next caller. Stoof comes in with 21 bucks. Hey! Did you buy that from a certified vendor?

Thanks for the great content. Thank you, Stoof. Appreciate it. Well, Lee's 7868.8.1 sent in, you'll never guess it, one, two, three, dot 45 U.S. dollars. Yes. That's amazing. I've got the same combination on my luggage. Love it. That's a spaceball's fake boost to welcome you to Austin.

My name is a zip code. Okay, Wes, it's Lee 78681. Yeah, that's right. It looks like it is, um, oh yeah, uh, in Williamson County and, Texas, which includes Round Rock, maybe bits of Austin. Okay. Well, then I hope you... I hope you do make it to Texas Linux Fest.

Yes, zip code is a better deal. Oh, I get the tax right here, 8.25%. Really? Yeah. Your map is awesome, dude. I got a trivia question for you guys. I learned this week. Ready for it?

Yeah, I'm ready for it. What does it mean? ZIP. I'll have to come back to you on that. All right. No, no. Zebra information processing. You tell me at the end.

Nailed it. Lee, thank you for the boost. Appreciate you. Why do I need a name for a Bitcoin donation comes in with 85,707 SATs? You're doing very well. I love it. He did send me an email later on. I thought that was so funny.

No message, just a value. Appreciate it. And Danny comes in with 300 USD. What? Stop it. Hey, Rich Lobster! All right, Danny. Thank you very much.

Longtime listener, we met at scale last year. I was the dude with the tux tattoo. Malaysian living in Houston now, I can't make it this year, so I'm supporting the team instead. Have a blast in Texas. We will be representing. Thank you, sir.

You're the best. Now, thank you, everyone. If you didn't hear your call out, PayPal currently has five transactions on hold under, quote, review. I guess they came in fast and close together. And right now, they tell me they'll be released by October 9th. Not ideal. Well, good for the trip back, though.

But it'll be good for the trip back. So if you didn't hear your shout out this week, either you came in right before the show or you're in one of those five, and there is some pending transactions there. But thank you everybody who did contribute with a fake boost. You raised in Greenbacks, $827.90. And in SATs, 268,9305 Satoshes. Thank you, everybody, very, very much. We appreciate you for fake boosting. If you would like to send us a support via a fake boost, that's PayPal, Venmo, on chain.

We may add more others for some other event down the road, but that's where we're able to scrape together now. We'll have a link in the show notes, for a fake boost. And we do appreciate those. We call them fake boost because we love you. And because we kind of were able to replicate what we get with the boost, which is we can tag it for a particular thing, in this case, Texas Linux Fest. We can get your name, we can get a message, and you can attach value. So that's why I call it a fake boost, because that's one of the key things that the boost. that the boost unlock for us.

And now it is time for the boost. All right, gentlemen, now we did get some boost-boosty-boosters into the show. And we start with our baller booster this week, which is our podcast. And whoa, our podcast comes in with an unbelievable 902,345 cents. Thank you. Yeah, ho! This is your celebration. Celebrate good time.

Come on. Celebrate it. Thank you, our podcast. Incredible. He says, greetings J.B. Crew. I wish I could be at Texas Linux Fest, but the next best thing to make sure is I send a few sats your way. I can't wait to hear about it in the coming weeks.

Who knows, maybe next year, I'll finally. be able to make these fests. Wow. Incredible. Thank you, our podcast. You're the best, dude. That's really remarkable. I just have no words.

And I feel like we don't have enough boost clips to represent this. Thank you. I know. I should just fire them all off. Do you have like a batch, batch button for that? Yeah, it's a booby-be-bub. I think I just did that, dude. That's what I just did.

Your fingers hurt. I love it. Thank you. Also very cool. He sent that from his own self-hosted note. Rad. Right. I mean, can we just appreciate PayPal would have blocked that transaction. And that's just really awesome. Thank you, our podcast. No Joe's comes in with 100,000 sets. All right. Hey, rich lifestyle. Coming in half with the boost.

No joke there either. Thank you, No Joe's. Texas Linux Fest boost. I just recently drove from Texas to Cali, so I know what an undertaking this is. Oh, no. Wouldn't be a fest without the J.B crew, though. Can't wait to see you there. A big, juicy van. Oh, man. Yeah, I know. And we're doing it from Washington.

And what people don't really appreciate is Washington and Oregon actually pretty big states too. Not California, Texas big, but take a whole day to drive across big. So we're going diagonally. I think we're going to go diagonal across. That's the most fun. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Thank you, Joe's.

I seem to have decided to drive from northern Ontario, which seems to be. Seems crazy? Yeah. No, that's not good. That's not good. We do have Moonenite here, though, who sent in 50,000 sets. Hey, hey. I like you.

You're a hot ticket. The heck. Thank you. This one's from Fountain, too. Can't let Fiat fake boosters win. Here's some open source money to get you to the open source Texas Fest. Woo! Thank you, Moona Night.

Representing. I appreciate that very much. Maybe laugh. Fortidoo's came in with 42,000 sats. The answer to the ultimate question. Here's a little value for your Texas trip and all you do. And you asked for it. You got it.

Here's my Nix config. I shared this before, but I think it's come a long way. This is a Nix OS and Home Manager Flake that manages multiple hosts with my shared modules and a few host-specific modules. It's pretty nice. Good usable configs for Hyperland, Neary, Sway, River, and Wayfire compositors, all enabling in plasma and cosmic desktops as well. Holy crap, dude.

One recent change you might appreciate, I abstracted out my username, to a let's statement in my flake.nix. It makes it easy for another user to try my flake quickly and just change the username in one place before building. That's a smarter approach than everybody use Chris F, I suppose. Yeah, it doesn't quite have the same, I don't know, ring to it, but it's a pretty good idea.

Wow, very impressed. Wes, will you save that? I sure will. We will add that to our list. I have a feeling I'm going to be humbled when I go through that one. Thank you, 40 Deuce. Appreciate it. Well, Lieutenant Merth comes in with 42,000 sats.

The answer to the ultimate question. You're doing a good job. Another recent paperless NGX convert here. Oh, right. I knew that in order to really adopt it, I'd have to minimize any friction to getting documents consumed. I thought I'd share my solution. Since I already had a CUP server running,

I decided to make use of its built-in virtual PDF printer driver. This new network printer with some scare quotes is accessible via MDNS and Airprint to all of the desktops and mobile devices on my land. I wrote a Python script running as a system D service to watch the server slash var slash spool directly for file I.O. Whenever a new PDF shows up, it makes a post-call to the paperless API,

uploading the document, and tagging it as to-do. So now all I have to do to get anything at all into paperless is hit print. Nice and low friction. That's great. What a clean, easy solution. That's big brain stuff right there. That is so big brain. I should have thought of that, too.

I used to manage cup systems like a machine. And I used to take advantage of that stuff. That's so brilliant. And then anybody can just print to that too. Combine that, you know, with some nebula mesh or something? Can we just, thank you. That is a great idea. I think I'm going to rip that off somehow.

and I want to use that. That is really great. And the beauty of it, too, is all your systems, as long as you have it turned on, we'll just auto-discover it, right? Like, pf, ah, I love that. All right, I'm taking this next one. DHH comes in with 30,000 sats.

It should be the DHH. DHS writes, instead of sending Nix configs, I figured I'd show you what I've been working on. It even includes a working display manager. Ouch. Did I just get trolled my DHA? I think so. All right.

It's fair. It's fair. It is a little bit further along, I will say. Maybe you could borrow a few ideas for hyper vibe. His installers a lot better than ours. We got it installed on the air. That truly is pretty great. Yeah.

Also, Wes, what's the name of that chat app, that sort of minimal group chat app that they just released? Was it like Campfire, right? Yes. So shout out to. DHH and his team also, they just released what you could call like a Slack competitor, if you will, but more of an MVP Slack competitor, which might actually be perfect. Multiple rooms, access controls, DMs, file attachments, preview, search, notifications. Yeah, we should put a link to that in the show notes too because it's really neat to see them come out.

I don't think that's got enough attention. And an API with support for bot integration. Also, DHS, thank you for taking the time to set up Fountain to boost in. Great to hear from you. And awesome work with the project. Thank you, sir. Well, Binary Patrick boosted in 22,22 Sats, and we know what that is. It's a big old duck.

Ah, fuck. Met you, Jens, last year at Texas Linus Fest, and I wanted to contribute to that endeavor this year, too. But to be clear, this boost is only for a little barbecue at Terry Blacks. Enjoy. We are, you know, required by boost. A lot to respect that. That's a good investment, you know, right there, because that is the, you know, yearly meat that I think fuels the show.

Right, we go there, we eat up, and then we wait a year until we can go back because nothing compares. You know, when Brent and I lock eyes over a beef rip, something special happens. Yeah, I know, it's awkward. I've had to leave the room. I drip sauce everywhere. W.H.20. 250 comes in with 20,250 cents. Oh, my God, this drawer is filled with broolopes.

Booze for Texas Linux Fest, make sure to stop at Blacks, but take a quick road trip to the original Lockhart just outside of Austin. The original in Lockhart. Oh, yes. Okay. So I do think this could be an opportunity, since the Fest is at a new location, we may try a new barbecue place, too. That could be a thing.

Kiwi Bitcoin Guide comes in with 20,000 sets. Well, let's hear it. Good, buddy. Have a great time in Texas Linux Fest. Do you have any suggestions or old episodes to help new Linux users decide on distros as a daily driver? I'm not a total Linux newbie, but I have been running a couple of Ubuntu servers and Linux been on a laptop for over a year now. But I want to set up a Linux Depstop as a daily driver. I'm looking at PopOS for now, but any suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks from New Zealand. Pop OS is a good one. They're about to have a new release in the not too distant future. I think Omaha Archie is worth considering as well. A lot of excitement around that right now. Ubuntu on the servers does make me lean a little bit towards maybe checking out of Ubuntu flavor. as well. There's so many options, Kiwi, and so we don't have a specific episode on it, because our pick would probably be, gosh, I mean, it changes every year, really, but

might depend exactly what you want to do with it, too, but you could check out something from the Yubaloo family, like Bluefin. Yeah, the reason why it's a hard answer, because it's really, it depends what you're going to use your computer for kind of answer and what kind of computer user you are and how you like to maintain a system. That's the tricky thing about it. It's just not a great answer, but it is one I like to give thought to. So thank you for asking it and appreciate the boost. User 8777343 boosted in 20,000 sets. I like you. You're a hot ticket. Hey, with Nebula coming around, have you guys still been using taelscale? Or is that sunsetting with the end of the self-hosted podcast? Oh yeah, I have a bunch of tail scales still. I mean,

I use it for all kinds of stuff. But I do think. I think I will transition a nebula for new infrastructure or like when I'm redoing networking stuff in general. Mostly, I really like the option of just going all in with my own lighthouse and maybe a couple of lighthouses because I have the means and having that optionality to fully self-hosted, but then maybe for family going with the managed option, that to me is a really nice sort of best of both worlds where the self-hosted version isn't limited in a way that I'm not, that I'm uncomfortable with, right?

It's a full product. So it's a slow transition. West probably has spent the most time with it so far. But even there, I also still have a bunch of stuff on Netbird for my personal infrastructure. So we kind of have it all, as usual. We're a bit of a mess. Yeah, I think when we get back, though, from Texas Linux Fest, I'm going to do a bit of a fabulous network makeover. I'm going to swap out the pie hole, going to switch out maybe the Wi-Fi, do a few other things on the endpoint, on the edge side.

And I think that also means roll over to Nebula, too. boat put up the lighthouses and all that kind of stuff. So it's going to be a big project, but we're going to have Brent in town and all that. So we're just, while we're all together, we're just going to knock it out. And then we'll have a great template for Brent's van. And then when Wes finally builds us, that cabin in the mountains, we'll have a great temple for that too. You can borrow mine if you need it. Yeah.

Abby comes in with a row of dogs. Hey. Love the map. Augsburg was correct. Nice. Good job, Wes. Finally got started with lightning and Bitcoin for the boosting, AlbiHub's setup was a breeze. Oh, that's good to hear.

Is there any way to yet to boost the member feeds from Android or the web? Would love if there was a way to gain member feeds access via boosting as well. It's just more fun than autopsy. I think Podverse will do it, right? Won't Podverse? Castomatic wood on iOS, yeah. I don't know if Podvers will. Okay.

I know, that would really be great. Also, thank you for even even being willing to do that. No kidding. Yeah, jumping through the hoops and wanting more. And congrats on setting up your hub. Glad to hear it went pretty smooth. Yeah, those are all things we'd love to see more,

and we will push on that as we can. Yes. Well, Thor boosted in 3,000 sets. Live long and prosper. Hey, I sent in my next config via the email form, so look for that one. been meaning to check out your hyper vibe setup too I really wanted to get a solid modern

tiling window management setup yeah do it let me know how it goes I did see the email thank you Thor I have tagged it appreciate that Marcel came in with 7,833 SATs this is why I have bedtime wine

he says to Pappy who boosted last week 7 832 times 11 plus 1 I think I'm right across the river from you If you multiply this by 11, but this time add 4. Let me know if you want to grab a beer or your beverage of choice. Are we matchmaking here? What's going on? We made a match via Boos.

That's great. So 7-832 times 11 plus 1. If you multiply this by 11... Yeah, okay. That is also in... Yeah, I get... So it's 7883 times 11 is 86163 plus 4 is 86-167. And that is also in Augsburg.

You think if we hurry, we could make it for the beer? Let's try. You have the RV turns into a private chat, right? Yeah, yeah, a really fast one. Thank you, Marcel, I think. LG 37? Or IG 37? I'm not sure. Elgy, yeah, there we go. Comes in with 7,000 sats.

Good, good. Fountain is okay, but I yearn for the simplicity. simplicity and open source nature of antenna pod. Now that listener earnings are functionally non-existent. Emptying the wallet to support Texas Linux Fest. Also, shout out to Drew for helping J.B. Productions stand above the rest. That's true, but sad to hear you moving on. You know, I have a lot of respect for antenna pod, though, so I do get that.

I would love to see them pushing a few things more forward. Like, ironically, and this is true, but it's just wild to say, Apple Podcasts is starting to more podcasting 2.0 features than antenna pod does. That's where we're at now. They've recently implemented some additional support. And, you know, I would not be shocked if Apple Podcasts supports the lit tag for live streams before antenna pod does. So there's just something wrong there. I'm not calling to integrate social networking or anything like that, but there's a few quality of life things. And the existential threat is YouTube and Spotify. They have these features. that draws content creators and audience.

Podcasting is trying to respond to some of those features in an open way, but the app developers just can't be ours to implement it. So we're seating ground to YouTube, and they're not standing still. They're adding more features, and they're going to do more stuff, and they're going to do more stuff when it comes to advertising. And podcasting is just being left behind because app developers can't be ours to integrate the features that are open source and out there and already in a spec. I will say antenna pod did seemingly recently improve their transcript support,

so they're now able to take advantage of not just the SRT file we published, but the VTT, which includes speaker diarization. That is nice to see. Again, though, they're trailing Apple on that. Apple did that over a year ago. Yeah, but it seems to be better than some of the other podcasting to at point out, including found. It is a better implementation because it does do diarization, which I do appreciate.

So it's a mixed bag, is all I'm saying. It's one of those things I have installed because I still think it's a great app too, but I'm disappointed that it isn't leading a bit more. And I know some of the stuff is tough, but some of it could be done without back-end infrastructure. Some of it's just implementing... Lit stuff would be huge. Lit would be huge, and it's really not a big ask.

Well, that's easy for me to say, but technically. You know, maybe we got to somehow we fund, crowd fund some money for vibe coding tokens to, you know, build out the support. There you go. Well, SatStacker 7 is here with 4,000, 444 sets. This old duck still got it.

Hey, you discussed in last week's member feed about setting up DeVarich or the Big D to share others' locations on your trip to Texas. While OnTracks was exactly built for this use case, you simply spin up an MQTT broker, download the own Tracks mobile app, and connect to it. Done. It's all amazingly simple. No recording, therefore no database needed. Yeah, that could be a solution. We might do that. I have a sense. We're just going to be sharing locations and chats, but it would be nice to kind of have time to cook all that up.

You guys have a better idea? Yeah, maybe we just, and then we run it in the Linux terminal set up in one of our phones. There you go. I like that even more. I was thinking we use mesh-tastic, you know, see if we have enough nodes to connect ourselves and share locations that way. We should bring our nodes. Also, I mean, I meant to mention the housekeeping.

I think we should be using BitChat when we're at Texas Linux Fest. I think we should be using BitChat. Everybody, go get BitChats so we can coordinate. I need to mention that over, and I haven't. I should really hammer that. All right, let's say thank you, though, because we got some great support this week. Boys, we're jumping on the road here. We had 22 folks stream sats as they listened,

and collectively, they stacked 60,663 sets, which is really great. I mean, I think was it just two months ago or a month ago? we had an episode where I don't even think we managed to collectively stack that in total. So thank you everybody who stream sats as you listen. That's really awesome. It's such a cool feature, too. Now, when we combine that, especially with our podcast's huge boosts, we got a monster report. Our total sats stacked for episode 633 are 1,33,33,33,9,929 Satoshes.

Make it so That's not possible Nothing can do that Fun will now commence Thank you everybody who supports the show Either with a membership A fake boost or a boosty boost It means the world to us

We're going to get down there And do what we were born to do And that's covered Texas Linux Fest Like nobody else can We didn't have to bring on a big old commercial sponsor And sell you on it We just had to sell you on doing a good good job. And you know, after 12 years, we're going to get down there and do the best damn job

we can. You know, it's fun. At, uh, you know, a little boost report there, total unique senders, 37 in one way or another 37 different different people and reach down. Yeah. It really makes a difference. Just 37 people can make a huge difference. And of course, our fake boosters and our members too. Of course. Huge support this week. Really, really appreciate it. Unleashed the ego. We are on our way. Last week will be our last episode before we hit the road. Thank you, everybody. That's just, it's crazy. I'm going to get home tonight. I'm going to tell the wife, and she's going to be absolutely blown away.

Now, we have just one pick for you this week, but it's a good one that Wes found. If you like things like Pocket and Instapaper and whatnot, but you want something that's all yours, Wes found, saver. Read it later, keep it local, no server needed. Yeah,

from a J.B listener, no less. No kidding. Uh-huh. Do an open source, write. GPL3.0. Can I just say I had no idea when I put this in the notes? I mean, I saw you tag it, but I did not know that was created by a listener. That's cool. Yeah, I think they also posted it in our Matrix chat as well.

That's what I get for taking the week off. This is really nice looking. And I guess it's so it all runs local. It's all file based. Offline first. This seems pretty nice. Don't need no server. Don't need no service.

Yeah, it's a progressive web app. So it just basically runs in the browser. So it's super simple to use. It has a bookmarklet, though. so you can, you know, still have super easy integration. You can run your own course proxy to go along. And it has experimental synchronization support, which has support for Dropbox,

but also remote storage, which is an open protocol that sort of lets you bring your own backend to provide to this app. So then you could sort of sync this across different systems with whatever storage you want to bring. I was surprised that some of these tools like Omnivore don't cache the images for offline,

viewing that's wild to me i'm glad to see savor does that i was shocked shocked when i heard that and we've got a uh extension for chrome or firefox so uh that's good nice to see yeah so this is from uh listener distro stew who we also got to meet at oh distro stew yeah at planet nix that's great good work distro stew yeah this is super impressive and um it seems like a great little utility yeah yeah and i don't need a whole bunch i love how lightweight it it as and easy to use. Absolutely. And it's GPL3.

So it's nice and easy-peasy. If you'd like to suggest a pick for us, if there's an app out there that you love on Linux or a service that you host that we've never talked about, please boost that in. That could be a great way to support a trip to Texas Linux Fest. You can also go to Linux unplug.com slash contact. I'm also genuinely curious if any of you out there could think of a use case, even if it wouldn't be for yourself, for a true multi-colonel system.

And you know we would try that, right? If they ship that, we are going to take a multi-core system and we are absolutely going to try it. Why would you not play with it if you can? Do you think you could run free BSD on just one of the cores? Wes, you would run a VM? Well, could you still could, right? One of them could run KVM and you could run free BSD inside that VM.

Or what if you just booted free BSD on the core? All right, boost in some crazy ideas that we'll try if they actually ship this thing or what you, would use it for. We will have a live show before we hit the road. You can make it a Linux Tuesday on a Sunday. Join us 10 a.m. on Sunday. It's 10 a.m. Pacific, 1 p.m. Eastern. See you next week. Same bad time. Same bad station. Yeah, if you want more show, we have been going for our members now for two hours and 25 minutes. They get a bootleg that has a lot more content. You can also join us live and hang out in the mumble room and hear the stream with low latency opus. Details at jupiterbroadcasting.com

slash mumble. And our show notes are at Linuxunplug.com slash 633 this week. And, Wes, we've got some power user features for them, too. Yeah, that's right. We've got those incredible transcripts, including speaker diarization, if your client can handle that VTT file.

Don't forget about them chapters, Wes. And we have cloud chapters. They're also embedded in the MP3. But if you want, you know, the most accurate, if you want custom features, you want cool images that we don't do right now but could do in the future, just you wait, you need those cloud chapters.

It's just a JSON file away. Shout out to the chapters. They're all in there. Also, while we're doing shoutouts, shout out to editor Drew. Appreciate you. All right. We'll see you next week.

Thank you. Thank you.