LINUX Unplugged - Episode 110: Return of the Localhost | LUP 110

Episode Date: September 17, 2015

We cover some great open source projects that help you live life off-line, as if you were online. We also discuss the upstream contributions from Munich & an awesome block level back up system.Plus some great feedback, a road trip update & more!

Well, the reason why I was asking if producer Rotten Corpse was here is because he had a write-up that was pretty cool over at makeuseof.com about the easy way to watch Netflix on Linux. Spoiler alert, really the easy way. Do you know what it is, Wes? Install Chrome. Install Chrome. How could it be easier? Yeah. But he walks through that and then he also walks through a couple of other options you have like breaking it off into its own desktop application and the issue where it's out on Firefox and things like that.

So that's really cool. But we actually had an email into Linux Unplugged just this week that was asking how to get Netflix running again. So I thought, boy, what a great chance to mention that. And then kind of great timing. Also, Joey on OMG Ubuntu has a how to watch Hulu on Ubuntu 14.04, which includes installing HAL, I guess, because FlashDRM doesn't work on Ubuntu without that. So he goes through how to get that going on Ubuntu 14.04 or later. So Hulu on Linux and Netflix.

Do you use Hulu? You know, only occasionally, so I'd be glad to have a guide like this. Have you read that article carefully? Have you spotted anything familiar at all in that article? Let me see. I actually just pulled it up right here. I'm noticing, let's see, I can add an Ubuntu PPA here. It's very nice. I can install. What am I missing as I

peruse through it? Whose PPA is it? That's actually what jumped out at me to tell you the truth. How do you say it? Flexion.org? Flexion? Tell us about that, Wimpy. Tell us about that. That's me.

Yeah. So tell me about that. Is this an issue that you've been working on for Ubuntu Mate edition? What's going on here? Yeah. It's built into Ubuntu Mate. Oh, that's beautiful. Jeez, you're a good man. Gosh, I love that. I love that. I say it's built in.

So actually, i found the upstream project um some months ago oh here's the credit to you right here very nice very good for good for joey for pointing that out i like that you know well deserved yeah so um yeah so actually the upstream project has done all the hard work um all i did was add some packaging for debbie and an ubuntu and chuck it in a ppa and in ubuntu mate welcome when you install adobe flash it automatically pulls in that how flash plug-in as well so that you get all the good stuff baked in and what i'm currently working on is getting that into the debian, so then it appears in Ubuntu official archives and everyone's got access to it. Jeez, you are really making that

a great out-of-the-box experience for regular users. That is super cool, Wimpy. But now everybody else can take advantage of it too. The secret is unleashed. For all of you who want to watch it. I've been rather poorly doing the job of trying to publicize this, and Stuart Language has been poking I've been rather poorly doing a job of trying to publicize this.

And Stuart Language has been poking fun at me every time he's found the alternative methods in the online press. So I was very pleased that Joey actually did the job that was somewhere down my list of things to do, which is actually write this up. So yeah, he's done me a favor there. Yeah, very nice. And now others can take advantage of it. Maybe I'll try it out later. Yeah. This is Linux Unplugged, episode 110 for September 15th, 2015. Welcome to Linux Unplugged, your weekly Linux talk show that's just about to hit the road.

My name is Chris. My name is Wes. Hey there, Wes. So I am all stoked to talk about today's episode. It's funny because our pre-show, we were kind of talking about online streaming, but really in today's episode, we're going to have an emphasis on offline life like you're online. I like that. It's all the things we're used to in the modern era, but without a connection. Exactly. That's my world right now. And so we're going to cover a couple of really great, well, actually more than a couple of really great open source projects that help you live completely offline, but enjoy some of the perks of being online. Of course, we're also going to get into a block level backup system that is a little bit cooler than LVM snapshots.

It gives you copy on write essentially to any file system. It even works with ButterFS if you want to use it with ButterFS. And it looks like it just runs in the background transparently. We're going to tell you a little bit about that coming up in the show. And then also, we've been talking about Munich and their big Linux switch and all of the news that's been coming out of that on the Linux Action Show for about three weeks now. And we're going to give the final word to our virtual lug as we say goodbye to the Munich story with how they contribute upstream to open source. We'll cover that in today's episode, plus a little update on the impending roadshow and some really really great feedback

so we have a whole bunch of stuff to get into so before we go any further we should probably totally bring in that mumble room time appropriate greetings and virtual love hello hello hello there they are hello everybody hi hello hello guess what guess what we got to get right into it today because we have lots of stuff to cover. So I want to start with the emails that have been coming to Linux Unplugged. Dow wrote in with a name for the roadshow. Here's my contribution. Love all the shows. Good luck with the endeavor.

He says we should call it the Finding Linux Roadshow. So in Linux Action Show, we named the mobile studio the JBRover, Rover for short. Now we have to name this tour. Each roadshow will have its own name. Each tour will have its own name, so we can refer to it as that. So DAO suggests, we're going to name it, we're going to decide today on Linux Unplugged what it is. So yeah, we're going to vote and decide. So DAO

says we should name it the Finding Linux Roadshow. And that's a good idea, because I do plan everywhere I go to try to find if they use Linux. Everywhere I go. So that's not bad. The Finding Linux Roadshow. That's not bad, not bad, but we have more. Hold on. Hold your thoughts because Terry writes in with a few names for the roadshow. Now get ready for these ones, Wes.

The Very Open Roadshow, or VORS for short. The Wide Open Roadshow, or WORS for short. The Linux Open Roadshow, or Linux on the Move. Okay? So those are a couple of submissions there. And what I'm going to suggest is while we talk about this a little more, I'm going to submit, this will be in the show notes as

well, I'm going to submit this to the chat room for voting. I've put them all in there. You guys go vote. I've got to say, so JBRover was the mobile studio name, but Jupyter 2 was a very common popular suggestion. So I have a poll up right now for naming the roadshow. This will go on while we do the rest

of the show. Chat room and mumble room, if you could vote away, I just put the link in the show notes. Strawpoll.me slash 5496571 and we get to vote. See if we got any votes yet. Finding Linux is the Finding Linux roadshow and Last Cribs Roadshow is also up

there for voting. Remember, I'm going to Noah's house. I'm going to do a Last Cribs Roadshow is also up there for voting. Because remember, I'm going to Noah's house. I'm going to do a Last Cribs episode. So there you go. And then one more email kind of in this, and we'll let the votes continue. Alex wrote in asking the following. He says, for the roadshow, I heard you might be passing by Colorado. In case that is so, it would be great if you'd like to come by for a beer at a micro-boo.

Oh, cool. All right. Well, hold on to that thought there, Alex. But here's the second thing. He says, this week, I was at a student's meeting of Linux users at the university. And it was great to see so many people that were interested in Linux. They helped installing Mint or whoever liked to try Linux out. Some of them were even running Arch.

There are around 10 to 15 people. Perhaps you'd like to meet them. They're a new generation of Linux users. So maybe I could meet them when I come back. That might be a fun thing to do. Yeah. So Alex asked about meeting up in Colorado. And Alex, so right now, we may actually end up going through Colorado on the return trip, but that's all a little tentative at the moment. So if you go to meetup.com slash Jupyter Broadcasting, we have Odyssey Westra here in the mumble room. He's going to be setting up some mumble, or I'm sorry,

some meetups as we go along. And you'll be able to see where we're at because we're going to have Jupiter Broadcasting. We already have jupiterbroadcasting.com slash rover set up. It's a live tracker of the journey of where the rover is at, so you'll be able to see what town it's at and you'll be able to tweet me or email

rover at jupiterbroadcasting.com Rover at Jupiter Broadcasting. I love tweet me or email rover at jupiterbroadcasting.com. Rover at Jupiter Broadcasting. I love it. Yep. Rover at Jupiter Broadcasting is great for trailer tips. A lot of people are emailing in with suggestions and tips for the trailer. If you want to meet up on the road, we'll be checking that inbox and all that kind of stuff and go to rover at jupiterbroadcasting.com.

It's also on the contact page. And if you go to jupiterbroadcasting.com slash rover, you can see where the rover is in real time. Odyssey Westra is going to have access to that too, and he'll be able to set up some meetups and things like that. So meetup.com slash jupiterbroadcasting if you want to meet up along the way. Because, Alex, I think that would be really cool. I'd like that. So let's try to get that set up. So let's check in with the votes one more time.

Ooh, ooh. Last Cribs Roadshow is up to the top. Look at that with 47% of the votes so far. Finding Linux is number two and the Linux Open Roadshow is number three. No votes, the Wide Open Roadshow and the Very Open Roadshow are getting no votes.

Might be good to keep Finding Linux in your back pocket here. This one is a Cribs trip. Yeah, right. Yeah, Finding Linux, that's true. When you're out of ideas and you want to hit the open road, you can just go hunt down Linux. That's true. That's good. Finding Linux could apply to a future road trip.

Not that we should be influencing the votes, Wes. Certainly not. Please, please, just disregard everything you say. Yeah, right. That's just standing order. Yeah. So there you go. Let's see what happens.

And then by the end of this episode, maybe we'll have a name. We'll see what. We'll see. If the votes are really super clear about it, we'll see if we have a name. We'll see what we'll see. If the votes are really super clear about it, we'll see if we have a name. But I'm so this is the last Linux unplugged recording in studio for that. I will be you'll be in studio. Yeah, but I will not be in studio starting next week. I'll be on the road.

And there's definitely a few things still to work out. I don't actually have all of the studio itself assembled in the RV yet. And I have disgusting tank issues that need to be worked out. Extra baggage. And there's a few other things that are just really kind of still up in the air. So it's a little crazy, and I still have, you know,

before I leave on Saturday, I still have unfiltered two tech snaps and a Linux action show to record and see if I can fit in a tech talk. So it's going to be nuts. It's going to be good. It's going to be nuts. That's all I'm saying. And, you know, speaking of the road trip, and then we'll start.

Let's talk about Munich. I am really excited to say that right before we started the show, my first, I'm going to get, I'm going to have two Ting MiFi devices, and they just sent me one of the CDMA devices that I'm going to use on the road. So I'll have Ting-sponsored connectivity while I'm on the go, thankfully, which is going to solve a huge part of the problem. That's amazing. Yeah, it's really great.

And, you know, right now, Ting is doing a $50 promo for the month of September. If you go to linux.ting.com, that'll support this show and give you $50 off Ting service for you. Ting is pay for what you use mobile. It's $6 a line, and then just your usage on top of that, that's how Ting works. And they have a really great dashboard, and they have no-hold customer service. And that's the core recipe of Ting. And they make this super, super valuable.

Like, it is unbelievable with three lines. I'm paying like $40 a month for three smartphones. It's amazing. And the nice thing is if you need like a MiFi device and you just need data from time to time, Ting could be a great, great solution for you because it's just $6 for the line. You can even suspend the line when you're not using it. Go to linux.ting.com and click on that how much you would save and put your deets in there

and check them out because they've got a CDMA and GSM network. They have a lot of coverage you can choose from and that also means there's a lot of devices you can use. In fact, very likely you might have already a Ting compatible device, in which case you'll get a $50 service credit. And they have some devices that are just absolutely unbelievable. Like right now the Galaxy S6 is on sale,

the Blue Studio 6O LTE is on sale. And look at the Kyocero Duro XT. I think that thing could survive like an alien attack. It's so cool. $47 for a feature phone and the battery just lasts forever. And Noah was saying that the speaker on that thing is so loud too. That's a really nice feature because it's designed for construction sites. So a lot of good phones.

Everything from the feature phones up to the latest and greatest devices. It's amazing how many devices they support. And, you know, the Karma Go is new, and I've been looking at that Karma Go. That might be what they sent me. I don't know. They either sent me that or the Netgear unit. I'm not quite sure which one I got. Just show them off on some future updates.

Totally, totally. Yeah, there's a great range of devices to pick from, including all the iPhone devices, the latest Android devices. And you can get that $50 credit by going to linux.ting.com. Check them out. Take a read at their blog. Try their savings calculator. I think you're going to be impressed on how different a mobile company can be. It's a really cool setup. And Ting's a unique company backed by a great company, 2Cows. You're probably familiar with them. You can go to linux.ting.com to support the show and get our discount. And a big thanks to Ting for sponsoring. Linux Unplugged.

Okay, so we've covered the Munich switch now for well, for years in Linux Action Show technically. But in the last couple of weeks, there's been a lot of hoopla around are do they do the users want to switch away? Is it a core group of people? Or maybe it's just these one group of department department users that want to switch away and some Microsoft spokespersons. And in all of this coverage, I think one of the things that came up was holy crap, the the Munich IT department is modifying the Linux that they're using. I mean they have Limux. And the LibreOffice they're using quite a bit, something like 40 patches to LibreOffice.

Yeah, a huge patch load to carry. Yeah. And a lot of people thought this was a big mistake. Now, one thing we did mention in the show, but I think it kind of got missed, is the patches that they're doing, they are sending upstream. That's awesome. That's the way to do it. So they consider themselves a major contributor to free and open source projects, sending bug fixes to upstream developers, making available software solutions, and sharing best practices

and technical information. Now, this is true. I know that there are IT folks, when some of the things they've discovered, employing large sets of Linux machines they've been sharing. One of the things they say is the development cycle is long, and one of the members of the city's Linux client development team was saying that one of the reasons the wide range of computer hardware is supported, so this is one of the challenges they have, is because the development cycle of Limux and the applications they use is long, hardware changes fairly quickly. So they say, whatever computer hardware was built in the last 20 years,

Munich is running, and it's a central IT department that it's central that the IT department has to support it. So they have 18,000 PCs. So you can imagine how many hard, how much hardware breaks per day. And that's why we always stock half a year's worth of hardware. And of course, sometimes I have to do custom patches to support some of this hardware. And some of these include like patches for like scanners to do certain kinds of document scanning. They have a web-based solution to administer accounts for groups, servers, and workstations with an LDAP distributed directory with information services. They have fully automated installation services that make software available updates to people,

to all the workstations, over 50 offices across the city. And they're on the fifth version of Limeux, which isn't deployed for everybody, but it's based on Kubuntu. Now, you were just recently playing with automated deployments. When you hear numbers like this, you know, you look at an impressive organization. Yeah, that's 18,000 PCs, 50 offices. When you think of automating something like that, does it boggle the mind a little bit? It definitely does.

Yeah. I can't even, I mean, you'd have to, though. You would have to. I mean, and I can understand how they have some legacy needs that perhaps smaller, more nimble organizations are not buckled down with. Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to kind of mention to you guys, though, do you guys have any takeaways from our recent Munich coverage? Anything, any gaps that you wanted to fill in on the Munich coverage?

Anybody? Because I know it's been a popular topic in our subreddit, so I wanted to open it up for discussion here in the show. Really? I've got to figure somebody has an opinion on it. The only thing that's occurred to me, I mean, I know it's been a long time since they started this effort, but this day and age, do they need their own distribution?

Could they not find a commercially supported distribution and repurpose that. Just tweak the applications that are installed and use Ubuntu or OpenSUSE or...

It does sound like they're doing a lot of work to keep up with everything. It's a lot to keep in house. They're starting with Ubuntu, yeah. Yeah, but it's quite old, isn't it? It is, yeah. It's based... The design of... The only thing that I think is silly Yeah, but it's quite old, isn't it? It is, yeah. The design of it, the only thing that I think is silly is that the design that they have of like a six-year cycle between different versions.

So there's at least one year they're guaranteed not to get support, and they did that on purpose. Well, if you were going to do it today, wouldn't you almost do it somewhat similar sort of as your own spin off of the distro? Like it would be PPAs that you lay down on top of it and things like that. Isn't that kind of how you would do it if you were going to do it today? But it would be as close to mainline Ubuntu as possible. Yeah. I think Corky makes a good point. They're running KDE, so why don't they base this on OpenSUSE? point they're running kde so why don't they base this on um open susa yeah there's you know with like the with the uh with the studio to spin your own and then and then the build service to build

the applications and maybe you could have different versions for different sets of hardware if you needed truly susa could could really that the the susa studio and the susa builds are open build service could provide a ton of infrastructure for them yeah Yeah, isn't this the risk when you adopt too early? Okay, Wimpy, well then, very frankly, do they adopt Linux too early? No, I wouldn't want to say that because somebody has to sort of take the first step and Munich have been sort of the shining light for everyone else to follow. And there have been examples of other organizations and municipalities following their lead. So I think that's all good. And I think that what's changed is that the Linux landscape has changed a little bit since they first set out on this endeavor. Yeah, yeah, somebody had to do it.

Yeah, and somebody had at a large scale had to do it. And it's great to see them contributing some of what they've learned about trying to, you know, hopefully the next city that adopts it will do a leaner job. What about my concern, though, that because they're kind of – I mean I really respect the work they're doing here and I think it's great that they've taken this on. But isn't it also not the best example for us? Like it – because it is sort of an old style of doing an implementation, it feels like every time the press goes to it every year to look at how it's doing and the story that comes out is, well, they're struggling a little bit, but they're still chugging

along. That feels like not a great use case. It doesn't make you want to switch my company over if I'm some CTO, right? That I worry about a little bit. I'd love to see some of the companies that are out there that are huge that have switched over to Ubuntu on the desktop that just have massive deployments and they don't talk about it. That I would really like to see because I think if more people talked about it, it's like it becomes like part of people's secret sauce.

It's like it's part of their what keeps them different. I don't know what it is exactly why companies aren't talking about it. But if they would, I feel like it would feel like it was more commonplace. But Munich's what we get. What's that? I'd like to know where Munich falls on the spectrum of organizations that have really customized their installation. Right.

Are there entities out there with 18,000 desktops that just take Ubuntu or Red Hat out of the box? Well, we know there's Google Ubuntu, so we know Ubuntu's, or I mean, we know Google is modifying Ubuntu. I feel like we also miss out on some of the box. Well, we know there's Google too, so we know Ubuntu's, or I mean, we know Google is modifying Ubuntu. So. I feel like we also miss out on some of the maybe enterprise

that have some Linux deployment on the desktop, you know, like maybe developers and some of the IT staff, maybe not the accountants. Yeah, for sure. I'm sure that happens

quite a bit. And if you watch Mr. Robot, apparently everybody runs Linux. Have you watched Mr. Robot, that show? Only the first episode. Oh, really? Yeah, I have ever watch Mr. Robot, that show? Only the first episode. Oh, really?

Yeah, I have to catch up. Well, it's a pretty interesting show, but the one thing that does seem to keep me coming back every single week is every single week they have gratuitous shots of the Linux desktop. That's beautiful. Yeah, it actually is. A Linux desktop. A Linux desktop, yeah. Yeah. Not what they say it is.

Oh, I see you're running GNOME. It's not GNOME. Well, sometimes they have run – they've shown GNOME, but it's mostly – it looks like KDE a lot of times. Like I was watching episode eight of season one last night, and it looked like console came up. And he was seeding the slash opt slash something or other. Do they have like a Linux advisor like big studios have science advisors for their films? It seems to have. They do actually.

Yeah. That's beautiful. It's impressive that they actually run commands, and the stuff that it displays is really what it actually does. That's mind-blowing. You guys heard us play this clip in Lass a couple weeks ago, but I'm going to play it again anyways. Because when I heard this clip, I was like, okay, well, now I have to watch that show.

And I'd heard about the show, and I was like, Christian Slater. Okay, that's fine. I don't have anything really against him, but not totally drawing me in. And then when I saw this clip, I was like, okay, yeah, I'm going to watch this show. So I see a running gnome. You know, I'm actually on KDE myself. I know this desktop environment is supposed to be better, but you know what they say. Old habits, they die hard.

An executive running Linux? Yeah, I know what you're thinking. I'm an executive. I mean, why am I even running Linux? It's for people who like to mess with computers. That's great, though. Thanks, Leo. That's such a great clip.

When I saw that, I thought, wow, okay, I've got to watch that show. I don't know how we got on that topic, but if you're a Linux – well, you probably listen to this show. You're probably a Linux user and you want a television show to watch, Mr. Robot's a good one. I'm stocking up on a couple of episodes for the road trip, which I'm going to talk about a little bit on how I'm going to do some of my things offline while I'm on the road.

I think it will be an interesting challenge. Yeah, Xavier, you're welcome. Thanks for the new habit. Is anybody in the mumble room watching Mr. Robot? I watched a few of them, but I haven't kept up to date with it. Yeah, I keep watching him in batches. And every time I watch it, I'm glad I do.

But I seem to let it go for a few weeks. It's good, and it has a little bit of things that put you off for a little bit. But then it pulls you back in with some of the tech stuff. It does. Yeah, it actually really does. Like I really – they say some of the people that are consulting with them are actually completely anonymous.

Like they're people they talk to over like TorChat or something. Yeah. So there you go. All right. Well, I want to get into the topic of how I hope to enjoy some of the benefits of being online while offline in the trailer. Because the realities of the trailer are I'm going to be really limited on connectivity because, A, I'm either going to be on cellular, which will probably be at best limited connectivity on I-90. And it's not exactly free. I mean, yes, Ting is giving to me for free, but I don't want to abuse it. And then if I don't have a Ting connection, then I'm really going to need to be self-sufficient.

And so I'm trying to come up with a couple of different open source projects that I can install. I'm envisioning, so if you're familiar with how RV trailers work, usually there's a spot where you eat and there's a table and there's two bench seats. And those bench seats open up. And underneath there, there's a perfect spot to set up like a NUC server and maybe like an external mirrored hard drive or something like that. And put it underneath the seat, the bench, and build a server there. And then install some really nice – and I'm not doing this this trip. But I'm going to do some of these on a laptop just to sort of test it on the drive since I have the laptop. Version 1.0. Yeah, version 1.0 is going to be on a laptop, like a beta.

And I'm thinking, what different open source projects could I glue together to essentially give me an online-like experience while on the road? And there's a few major ones. And that's also going to be a continuing topic in this week's episode of the Linux Action Show. We're going to double down and really, really focus on one really important one and show you how to set it up. But first, before we get to that, I want to mention DigitalOcean,

which I'm considering how DigitalOcean could be sort of like an off-site cache for me. Maybe I have cron jobs on DigitalOcean that go retrieve things, and in one spot I pull it down, maybe when I'm on a Wi-Fi connection, something like that. So DigitalOcean is a simple cloud hosting provider dedicated to offering the most intuitive and easy way for you to spin up your own cloud server. So if you want to get a Linux server set up, this could be a really great way for you to spin up something really fast and try it out for two months absolutely for free. Use the promo code D01plugs and you get a $10 credit over at DigitalOcean.

You can get started in less than 55 seconds. And pricing plans start at only $5 a month. And for $5 a month, you get 512 megabytes of RAM, a 20 gigabyte SSD, one CPU, and a terabyte of transfer. And DigitalOcean has data center locations in New York, San Francisco, Singapore, Amsterdam, London, and Germany. But what I really like about DigitalOcean, well, what I really like about DigitalOcean is that it's all running on Linux. It's all using KVM for the virtualization, and they use SSDs for all of their disk I.O. So that I really like about it. Oh, and they have tier one data connections.

That's stuff I really like about DigitalOcean, but the thing that really makes it all sing is the interface they set on top of it. It is a glorious interface that is really intuitive to easy and maybe simple. But I don't want to make it sound like it's not powerful, because it is very powerful. You can do just about anything you'd want in there. And the nice thing is, is if you want to get really pro level, they got a straightforward API.

So go use that promo code D1plug. Try out a $5 droplet two months for absolutely free. See what I'm talking about? DigitalOcean is cray. And I have a feeling they're going to play a key role in my offline online world because the DigitalOcean droplet can always be online while the trailer cannot. DigitalOcean.com. Use the promo code D1plug and try them out. Trust me, while the trailer cannot. DigitalOcean.com, use the promo code DEOnplugged and try them out.

Trust me, you can find some. Once you just try it for a little bit, it's obvious what you want. You will be hooked. You will be. That's right. DigitalOcean.com, and a big thanks to DigitalOcean for sponsoring the Linux Unplugged show, and thanks to you guys for using promo code DEOnplugged. All right, so I want to talk about a couple of different projects that Wes and I were brainstorming

that would help somebody live sort of an online life while offline, because this is going to be a key thing for me. And I thought this is probably a good a good mental exercise to go through anyways. And one of the things I really want to do while on the road is read. I want to be able to get my reading and catch up on articles and things like this. Pocket and Instapaper are kind of like the go-to for this. And that's great if you can connect to your Instapaper queue or your Pocket queue and download them to your device. But nothing guarantees that when I decide to fire up the device, the app, on my phone for the first time in two days, nothing guarantees I'm actually going

to have a connection. So I would really like something that would be sort of storing the articles for me in the trailer, getting them ready to read whenever I want to when I'm on the local trailer network. And so that's where Wallabag comes in. Wallabag is essentially an open source pocket competitor. The application is going to suck down the webpage for you and store it offline for reading anytime you want. It's sort of – we're going to get to other ways you could do this, but this is a very Instapaper Pocket kind of way. And Wes, are you familiar with Wallbeg?

I've tried it out a little bit on one of their older versions. It seemed like a great idea. I don't know how the implementation has improved. Are you using Pocket right now? I have been using Pocket. So you get the idea. I sure do. And the same thing here, like you can have a JavaScript bookmarklet that will

send it to your queue. They have apps that you can, you know, for Android where you can share to Wallabag and it saves it to your local server. It's very handy. That's awesome. Yeah. So that's Wallabag. And I don't know if anybody in the Mumba Room has any experience with it. You feel free to

jump in. But this is on my try to-do list. We've talked about it once before, but it's pretty cool. And then something else that I got to really come to terms with is right now I'm a really big LastPass user, but if I'm offline for an extended period of time, it might be worth looking into KeePass and maybe specifically KeePassX because you were saying maybe I might prefer this over standard KeePass. Maybe. I like it a little more for native Linux implementation. If you track their Git, they have a beta 2 now.

They're using the new KeePass 2.0 format that has a little better, if you have multiple versions, you can intermingle them. They won't conflict anymore. So it's definitely worth a try. I found it to be extremely stable. So no monorequired seems really nice. Yes. It's in the AUR. Yep. So it's easy for me try. I found it to be extremely stable. So no mono required seems really nice. Yes. It's in the AUR.

Yep. So that's easy for me to get up and running. You can download the stable release, which works very well. I've had no problems with. And then the version 2 beta, which is doing well. Do you have any idea what the process is to move from LastPass to KeePass? I do not. I've actually never used LastPass.

Oh, okay. KeePass has been meeting all of my needs. If your issue is to have access when you're not online, LastPass actually has a thing called Yosemite or something where you download your entire vault, and it's locked down on your stuff, so you can use it offline. You can use it like a portable app,

or you can use it... Oh, it's Open Sesame. So that's what it is. Open Sesame. Okay. All right. Yosemite. I got to look into that.

Okay. Open Sesame for KeyPass. All right. I got to look into that. Okay. Open Sesame for KeePass. All right. Now, that seems like a good solution for this trip. Maybe KeePass is a good long-term one. Yeah, I thought there was a way, too. I'm a kind of chairman. I'm pretty sure you can export your LastPass vault to a format KeePass can read.

Oh, that's beautiful. Oh, and look at that. Odyssey says, here is your LastPass vault user manual for exporting. Cool. Thank you, guys. So that might be something I'll look into maybe not for this trip but maybe for a future one so west you were trying to convince me i the other big thing that i want to be able to do and i can't think of another way to do this and i bet wimpy is going to back you up on this uh you know right now i'm i'm relying on dropbox a lot for file sync yes and i want to be able to

continue to work across all of my machines well which is really going to be three computers in the trailer, maybe four. And I want to be able to update files in them and have them all be able to share the files so that way I can do show prep on the road. And then when I get a connection, have it sync back up. And I think you probably can't get around the fact that, I mean, to do that, I've got to use SyncThing. You've got to use SyncThing. I mean, there are some alternatives, but I think SyncThing works really well. It runs great just on a LAN, or if you have your occasional connectivity to your droplet, you can mirror things up there as you can.

Yeah. I don't know, Wimpy, what do you think? Do you think this is the time to switch to SyncThing, or can Dropbox do the job? I think Dropbox can do the job. Without the cloud piece? Of course. Well, you only need one instance of Dropbox, don't you? You don't need all of your machines running Dropbox.

You could have all of your machines running Dropbox and use LAN syncing, or you just export your Dropbox folder from one machine over NFS and mount that Dropbox instance on the other machine. That's true. That would be one way to do it, would be to have a, because I do want to have access to all of the files on all the machines because it could be notes sometimes and things like that but if I had them all over NFS and then just had Dropbox running on the

NFS server, that could be a way to do it. As long as you stay in a trailer. I don't know if you'll be, you know, if you go work in a coffee shop or you're in Noah's That's true you can you can you know i often will be on the i often will be wi-fi hunting right that's a really big component of it but if the dropbox you know the local land sync works fine then then you'll land sync seems to only work when it actually has connectivity to the cloud server to get the master

index with dropbox no it needs it Lansync to do the first initial upload and then once the first initial upload of the files is done, the rest goes over the LAN. This is a challenging one. I'm not sure what to do here because it's too big of a transition to make before Saturday. But the

more I think about it, if I want four computers to be able to all work off the same files and be able to take one of those four to a coffee shop and still have all that work updated, that's got to probably be sync thing. With maybe, what's the VPN client? Tink? Yeah, with Tink. So that way

when I'm at the coffee shop, I'm connected back to the, well... And you can have the droplet with it too? That would be how to do it. It would be with the droplet, yeah. The droplet could be in the Tink network too. Oh yeah, no man you don't the the tink bit is optional though yes totally need to tink yeah i was thinking i was thinking keep it simple chris no well here listen to a couple of your you know ideas and i fear that you're over complicated that's true i'll tell you what i was thinking requirements what i was thinking was it'd be nice if the

trailer had wi-fi connectivity to have it be able to also be getting the files. Like say I'm working back here at the studio and the trailer has Wi-Fi connectivity. It would be nice if the changes here were already back at the trailer when I got there if it has a persistent connection. And the only way I can really think to do that is to have the – to either have like the trailer every time it connects have like dynamic DNS, updated DNS record or use Tink to just make sure it's always on the same network. I don't know. Again, that's not all like – that's not all right in this first trip anyways. There's a lot of permutations that could work there. I just think it's going to be – I think it's going on the project list though.

I think solving this – I don't know how I'm going to solve it, but this particular problem is going on the – is on that list. GP infrastructure initiative. Right. The mobile studio needs a good Linux infrastructure. problem is going on that list. GP infrastructure initiative. Right. The mobile studio needs a good Linux infrastructure. And then last but not least, this one is probably the one all of you were guessing in the chat room. I think I might just archive some websites with WGIT.

And it turns out like the command, if we have the command in the show notes, it's crazy easy. There's an option in WGIT for website archive. So like we were thinking maybe we'd use ARIA 2 or, you 2 or there's a lot of different methods to pull this particular problem off. You could even just send a lot of it to Wallabag, but the nice thing about WGit is it can just archive the single website.

We have the command there. If you want to try it out, you can. I think I will maybe for some reading. Just grab a few sites, pull it down, and then read them later. You've got all your CSS images, everything. I could VPN to the trailer from Starbucks, says Xavier. That's exactly what I was thinking. So Mumbaroom, did you guys have any other suggestions of open source projects that kind of help replicate the online experience when you're offline with no connectivity?

Chris has got a real bad internet addiction, and he needs help. This is exactly it. I need the slight sensation of being on the internet, even if it's just like a Nicorette gum. I need something. Keep him going on his long journey. When I turn off the MiFi, right now, so here's what happens right now, is I have a couple of different hotspot devices, depending on what signal is the strongest that morning.

And then when I turn them on, all of a sudden I get a LAN and all the devices connect and all of a sudden they can all talk to each other and self-discover and it's amazing. And then when I want to save bandwidth, I turn off the MiFi device and my LAN collapses and none of the devices have any IP addresses and nothing can talk to itself. A dark age. They're all just individual monsters just in the dark bumping into each other.

And then I decide, okay, I want to do something online. So I turn the Wi-Fi device back on. The land comes back online. And it feels so quiet. And it's been cool for about a week and a half or so or whatever it's been. But today and last night, I'm kind of like, okay, I would really like to have some solid connectivity.

So I'm just curious what other projects you guys might suggest that I could use to kind of get that experience. If you wanted an offline search type thing, you could do local search with Yacy. That's true. Oh, yeah. That's a good one. That's not bad, actually. When I want to look something up but don't have connectivity, now will Yacy do archiving? Because I'll have to be able to read the results offline.

Yeah, it can. By default it doesn't. It just indexes, but you can make it archive too. Grab a TP link and get a USB mobile dongle. So, Inagogo, you need to tell me more about that. If you would email rover at jupiterbroadcasting.com. Because I'm trying to figure out how the NUC. So, the NUC is also going to be my firewall, I assume.

And I need to know how that NUC is going to jump between different cellular connections for the LAN. Wimmy, do you have any input on Wi-Fi and things like that in an RV? Yeah, so I think I've got what we would call over here an SUV, which I think is more or less the same kind of thing. And I've got wireless and Ethernet in mine. And I used one of these uh travel um routers you know so it's battery-packed router uh and uh wireless n and it's got a usb port on it that i plug a 3g 4g usb dongle into so that device that that router uses the 3g 4g to get an internet connection and provides the LAN and it

has one one ethernet port so I can have one hardwired device not that I ever use it so I could plug that into the NUC for example for example yeah and um that way when you don't want That way, when you don't want internet connectivity, but you do want the LAN, you simply unplug the USB dongle and you retain your LAN, but you've physically removed yourself from the internet. Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly what I want. And that's got caching DNS and all of that stuff on it and DHCP. Ooh. Ooh, okay. All right.

Okay. Do you have a link to that one? I'll look it up and post it it and DHCP. Ooh. Ooh, okay. All right. Okay. Do you have a link to that one? I'll look it up and post it in the IRC in a second. Thank you. Yeah. The ever-resourceful mumble room. You suggested MPD. Yeah.

That would be one option. And I was thinking, what was the – anybody remember the alternative to subsonic? What was that? Remember how there's a subrage or something like that? There's an alternative to subsonic that's come out recently that would also possibly – it's kind of like replace. That would basically be replacing Spotify. Yes. But other than that, that was kind of where I was starting to kind of – I mean I have a couple ideas that I'm saving for last that are huge.

But other than that, that's kind of what I've come up with. what I've come up with. So if you go to linuxactionshow.reddit.com in the subreddit and look for episode 110 and give me your ideas for open source projects that give you that online experience while you're offline. And the thing I love about this is it's not, it's MadSonic.

Yeah, that's what it was. Thank you guys, MadSonic. The thing I love about this idea, it's not just for those of us that are living on metered cellular connections, but it's also great for just that whole bringing things offline again, moving things out of the cloud and bringing it back on your own LAN or your own

droplet or whatever. Oh, Wimby, did you find it? Very good. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Zoomtel.com. Oh, yeah, that's nice. I have the 4506AG.

Okay. I'll put a link to that in the show notes for people that are looking for something similar out there. So that is and it's so it runs off um i don't know if you have them in the u.s but we have what used to be called cigarette lighters but they're now just used to power stuff yeah that's what i use in the trailer yeah nice yeah so it runs off a cigarette lighter but the router has a battery pack in it that's perfect so when it comes off the power it's charged and it runs for a few hours off its own battery so it's the travel it's the travel one that you have yeah i have specifically

4506ag the travel router that is you sold me you sold me with the dc power connector to be honest with you because this is the i need everything to run off of DC. I don't even know if you can make a NUC run off of DC power, but if you can, I need it to. Staple sells them. Perfect. But what you will need is a USB, a compatible USB dongle. And they've got a detailed list of what the compatible options are. And they have the, I bought mine on amazon and it had the option to buy the car kit the car kit yeah i'm looking at it right now on amazon

very good yeah yeah oh man wimpy this is probably exactly what i needed jesus only but did you what how can it only be 30 dollars yeah it's as cheap as yeah holy crap holy crap that's great. Yeah, I think I'm going to put this on the list for something to look into after this trip. Now, you don't have the ability to hook up to an Ethernet connection on the WAN side, do you? You can use WAN on the Ethernet side. You can either use it as LAN or WAN. It's a selectable thing in the UR.

Oh. So when I have the trailer parked here at the studio, I could run Ethernet out to the trailer network. Oh, my gosh. That is so exciting. I'm putting that on the list right now. Man, thank you. Perfect.

That's exactly what I'm... You can plug right into Noah's network? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And then I'll have the NUC sitting behind that, so that way the LAN's IP address and DNS always stays the same or something. I mean, I don't know. That could be. Yeah, cool.

Oh, that's great. It does port address translation and UPnP and all that stuff. So there you go. So do you say you have the 4506A or which one? I'm looking. Yeah, 4506AG. AG, yeah. Okay, AG. Well, geez, that? Yeah, 4506AG. AG, yeah, okay, AG.

Well, geez, that's great, Wimpy. Good pick. So I'll have to make sure I put the right one on my list. All right, anybody else have any other suggestions for replicating online experience? NUC does need DC input, so it might be possible to get the NUC to do that. Huh, very cool.

All right, well, if you have any suggestions when you're listening, oh, look at that. Well, look what Rikai just found. You can use any. Oh, that is so awesome. You do not need a DC to DC converter. Oh, my gosh. It's perfect.

So it looks like other people have already had this same thought process. That's why it's the next unit of computing. That's right. That's right. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. That is so cool. That is so awesome.

12 volts, 36 watts. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. That is so cool. That is so awesome. 12 volts, 36 watts. Hmm. That's amazing. That means I could run the NUC off of total battery power that's charged by solar panel. Ooh. The homeland on the trailer would be run off of the solar panel. Okay, I'm just going to absorb that for a moment. I'm going to sit with that for a second. Now, I think I'm going to tell you.

Oh, go ahead, Wimpy. Yeah, another one, Wimpy. You had another one? The 550... 4506? That's the list of compatible USB adapters. That's probably good to have, too. I will also add the link to that in the show notes, so that way we all have that, because I'll probably come back to this episode to look for it

myself when I'm ready to make the purchase. So that's cool. All right. So now I have been looking at different ways to do backup for some of our production machines. And it's not just because I love rolling releases that I want to find a really good backup, but that might be part of what's niggling at the back of my mind. So I have been looking at a kind of a slick way to do a real easy snapshot and restore system that doesn't take up a whole bunch of storage space, doesn't require like a blank dedicated volume,

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Big thanks to Linux Academy for sponsoring the Unplugged program. Okay. So, Wes, it's called, I think, I'm going to say Datto Block Driver. D-A-T-T-O. Datto. Datto. It's the Datto Block Driver. Now-A-T-T-O. Datto. Datto. It's a Datto Blockdriver.

Now, here's how they set it up. Now, they recognize, and I like this, they build the case, that Linux has some basic tools for creating snapshots of file systems. Most use copy-on-write schemes to allow point-in-time consistent snapshots. Currently, both LVM and Device Mapper, on which LVM is built, support copyright snapshotting. Unfortunately, both have limitations that render them unusable for supporting live server snapshotting across desperate Linux environments. For example, LVM snapshotting requires an unused volume in order to track your copy on right data.

So enter the Datto block driver, Datto BD. It solves the above problems. It is an open source Linux kernel module for a point in time live snapshotting. Datto BD can be loaded onto a running Linux machine without reboot and used to create an image file representing any block device at the instant the snapshot was taken. After the first snapshot, Datto B tracks incremental changes to the block device and can therefore efficiently update existing backups by copying only the blocks that have changed. With a single command, DATO-DB can almost instantly create a point-in-time snapshot device representing the snapshot state. Between snapshots, disk writes are tracked, so incremental changes can be quickly and efficiently applied to an existing image file. DattoDB is designed to run on any Linux device from small test virtual machines

to live production servers with minimal impact on I.O. or CPU performance. Since the driver works at the block layer, it supports the most common file systems, including Extended, XFS, and even ZFS and Butterfest. Oh, wait, I'm sorry. Maybe I should make sure I double read this. All the file systems with their own block device management,

such as ZFS and Butterfest, cannot be supported. Oh, misspoke. So Butterfest. Oh, wait. I'm sorry. Maybe I should make sure to double read this. All the file systems with their own block device management such as ZFS and Butterfest cannot be supported. Oh, misspoke. So Butterfest is not supported. Kind of a bummer, but I guess not necessary since Butterfest has copy-on-write support

in itself. All copy-on-write data is tracked in a file on the source block device itself, eliminating the need to have a spare volume in order to store that snapshot. So, in summary,

DataDB brings functionality of similar to like volume shadow copy on Windows to a broad range of Linux installs, file systems, and kernels. Are you impressed at all, Wes? I'm very curious. You know, they say efficiently. I'm interested in what the overhead might be.

It'd be very fun to try this on some running systems and see what happens. All right. So let's put it to the mumble room. Is anybody in the mumble room? Remember, Chris is going to be on the road next week, and it would be great if we all met back here for 1.11 with a real good story. Is anybody in the mumble room willing to try this out? You could do it on a virtual machine or an actual machine this week and report back next week on how it went. Anybody? Yeah, I'll give it a go.

Oh, I love it! That was easy enough! So, I'll have it linked in the show notes. I'm just really curious, you know, if it really can easily, I don't know, like maybe the test would be update a system and see if it's easy to go back or recover data exactly how it works. Could be kind of neat. Well, I've got a machine here that I'm using as my main workstation, which I'm about to upgrade.

So I don't really mind if it goes horribly wrong. So I think what I'll do is do some backups, do some updates and do some backups and roll back. and then I'll do a full distribution upgrade and try and roll back and see what happens. Oh, I can't wait. I'm really excited. This is exciting, yeah. So Datto Blockdriver, D-A-T-T-O, Datto. Oh, very neat.

They got me when they said that it makes it super fast to do incremental updates, because that made me think that, you know, once you get the first one done, then it's not really that much of a tax to fire off a quick one before you do an update or something like that. And I love the idea that you could just plug in, you know, add this to a running system. Oh, yes. I didn't use a copy on write file system.

But I'd really love to be able to, you know, especially if you're running a rolling release. And especially if, you know, you don't really, you know, you have a system where Extended 4 is just fine for you, something like that. And speaking of Extended 4, did you guys see that the next kernel update is going to drop Extended 3 support? Or at least the explicit driver. Okay. Oh, is that what it is? Not the support for it.

Okay. Okay. So it'll still be there if somebody has Extended 3. Well, it'll load it. Like a module type. Yeah, exactly. Extended 4 now will be the Extended 3 support. Right.

Yeah, because it can read it too. That's interesting. So it's not really a big deal at all. Not really at all. It's an interesting discussion, though. Even if you didn't have it, like, who cares? It is an interesting discussion. And the mailing, if you look at the mailing list. Yeah, and how they kind of go through and decide, like,

you know, the thought process behind it, what's it going to break, do we really want to run this risk, and okay, well, if we have the backwards compatibility here, and we can module it. Corky says that Linus blocked it. He did. It looked like, at least on the mailing list, that then there was further discussion in the

file system development that they are willing to say that the EXT4 does not enforce new features so that you could, if you had an EXT3, then you use the EXT4 driver and wanted to go back to a kernel just using the EXT3 driver, it would still work. And they were willing to support that.

That's my understanding. And I think I read that today or yesterday. So it's pretty recent, Corky, if you maybe missed it. But it doesn't really affect anybody that's running Excented 3. The other thing that was interesting is it points out that they're keeping or probably keeping EXT2 just because it's a really good example file system. So maybe anyone interested in Linux kernel development or file system development,

that's a good one to go study. It's simple but effective? Yeah. Huh, that is interesting. And if you wanted to implement a new file system, there's a skeleton you can use. Start with something, I suppose. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty road-proven, as I say, because I'm thinking about road trips. It's very important.

Yeah. All right, well, that'll bring us, well, at least towards the end of this week's episode of Linux Unplugged. I'm really actually pretty happy. We had a really good turnout for what is sort of universally known in, like, the news business as the slowest weeks of, like, this starting, you know, a couple of weeks ago until now. It's, like, in the U.S., Congress goes on vacation. The news people go on vacation. Anderson Cooper goes on vacation. Yes, even Anderson Cooper goes on vacation.

Oh my gosh, it's Anderson Cooper, everybody! Megan Kelly goes on vacation. But not the mumble room. The mumble room still showed up. Those are troopers. You guys really are. I hope you will show up next week. I have no idea what my connection is going to be like. It'll be fun, guys. Yeah, I'll also be remote.

I'll be remote with you. But if all goes as planned, my audio is going to be recorded locally. Ham Radio will be slapping it all together, delivering it to Reiki for video production. And hopefully it'll still sound pretty good even though I'm on the road. That's the goal. The live show, you'll hear me on the remote connection. But in the downloaded version, I should sound pretty good. That is the intention at least.

We'll see how that goes. You'll find out in episode 100 and 11. Join us on Sunday's episode of the Linux Action Show. I'm going to take this topic of enjoying online life while you're offline. And I'm going to zoom into an open source project that needs way more attention. Wes turned me on to it a few weeks ago. And I think a lot of people are going to be talking about it after we talk about Linux Action Show. I think there's already some people in the IRC I've seen using it.

So this will be good. Don't spoil it, dude. But I'm really excited. And Noah and I have been using it for a little bit so that way we can give you our impressions on it after a couple of weeks of marinating. And it fits in so perfect with our topic today. So if this at all was an interest to you and you want to deep dive into something, check out Sunday's episode. Actually, I keep saying Sunday, but I think we're recording on Friday. That way we can record it while I'm still in town.

So we'll be live on Friday for Linux Action Show for release on Sunday for download. All right. Well, that right there will bring us to the end of this week's episode of Linux Unplugged. We should be live next week at our regular time. Go over to jupyterbroadcasting.com slash calendar to get that converted to your local time zone. broadcasting.com slash calendar to get that converted to your local time zone if you want to suggest an offline open source project linuxactionshow.reddit.com look for the 110 feedback thread or you can email us at jupiter broadcasting.com slash contact i got a magical drop down right there it's incredible it's great also don't forget

jupiter broadcasting.com slash rover to follow the road trip as it's live and rover at jupiterbroadcasting.com slash rover to follow the road trip as it's live, and rover at jupiterbroadcasting.com to email anything about the road trip. All right, Wes, well, I will talk to you from afar next week. Ooh, this will be fun. All right, everybody. Well, thanks for tuning in to this week's episode of Linux Unplugged. And we'll see you right back here next week. Thank you. Well, look at that. Wimpy says he knows one of the guys that works at Datto. Really, Wimpy?

That's interesting. Tell me more about that. Well, I didn't realize until I started looking through the GitHub. His name's Dan Fury, and he did some work in Arch a little while ago. And I took on some packages that he'd been maintaining in the AUR. He'd been doing some work on compis. And I just thought, hang on a minute, that username looks familiar. That's great.

So he's the guy pushing the source. And in the same GitHub account, they've got a PDF, which goes into some detail about how this all works. Very cool. Nice spot. It's the basis of a commercial product. DattoBackup.com. Interesting.

So although the code has only landed in GitHub about a month ago, this appears to be battle-tested. I heard about it. I was emailed in. Somebody said, I've been using this for a little bit. And I thought, okay, well, that's interesting. Let's take a look at it. So Datto.com is products built around this solution.

Fascinating. Look at that. So, yeah, that's nice that it has a commercial backing. It's battle-tested. JBtitles.com, also last chance to vote on the roadshow name. Right now, Last Cribs Roadshow is currently winning with 42% of the votes, finding Linux coming up number two. On titles, we have Linux unhitched and last Crips trip.

I don't know. Keeping Linux online, going offline. No place like slash home, classic. No place like slash home, that's true. That's not bad. I feel like we could do something more around the going offline thing. Yes. So what do you think around the going offline thing. Yes. So what do you think?

JBTattles.com. Last chance to vote. Anything grabbing you there, Wes? Do you like any of those in particular? Let me take a look. Yeah. You take a look. So that's – is that data – that was a big NAS they had there?

That's interesting. I wonder if they sell it to NAS creators. Yeah. They've got some optical-to-cloud solutions as well. No place like Tilda. Keeping Linux online. I don't know. I feel like something offline.

By Evernote. How to download the internet. That's almost there. Going offline almost sounds like the show's ending. I don't know if I like that idea. Yeah, that's weird. Yeah. Linux unhitched is close.

Yeah, it's close, but not quite it. Linux hits the road's not quite it, because it feels like that could be next week's episode. Linux unplugged disconnects. That could be next week's episode title, too, though. Yeah. Oh, this is close. How about live online like...

Live on... How about live offline like you're online. Is that too long? Is that dumb? Offline audits. Linux unplugged unplugs the internet. Linux unplugged

gets away. This should not be this hard. This should not be this hard. All right, so hold on real quick. Let's just focus in here. We can do this. We can do this, you guys. We can do this.

I have faith. And the value of this is negative. All right, well, there's no place like Slash Home's not bad. But I could break the internet, too. Let's see. Offline online solutions. Offline action show. Offline online

solutions is kind of funny. I kind of feel like Linux living... Oh, that's a little weird. Never mind. I kind of feel like maybe there's no place like slash home is the way to go. Is that awful? Oh my gosh, we've got to find something. We've got to find something. What about no place like slash homes the way to go. Is that awful? Oh, my gosh. We've got to find something. We've got to find something.

What about no place like 127.0.0.1? Yeah, that's not bad either. That's not bad either. Offline online solutions, offline action show, Linux hits the road. Why is this so hard? I think that we should all make those businesses fail. Dang it, RMS. You're just distracting me. I'm bringing

down the economy. Icarus says off the grid. That's pretty good. Linux off the grid? What is it? He said off the grid in the RV, but just tweak that and make it something like I don't know. Linux living offline. Return of the local host.

I like that, Shadow7. Return of the local host isn't bad. Offgrade Linux. So I think Linux living offline or what was the other one? The most recent one? Yeah, the one you just said. Return of the local host.

So I think that's the return of the local host or living Linux offline. Which one do you guys like better? Wouldn't it be better if return of the local host was used when you returned and were a local host? Oh. Okay. If we can remember. If we can remember. Living Linux offline.

Living Linux offline. Is that good? What do you think of that? You know, you know, I get it. It's okay. Okay. No, I'm not vetoing. No, but you don't, you're not, you're not jazzed off the grid. Huh? Linux goes off the grid. Look, man voice there. Huh? What'd you say? What'd you say what'd you say what was it come on come again uh gosh dang it you guys gosh dang it gosh dang it this is too tough all right here we go this this is it this is it this is it right here no take backs okay okay okay okay i kind of think return of the local host just because we probably won't remember to use it when I get back. We are the worst.

There's a thing I could just say. I think I could remember. I don't know. I feel like if we hold on to it, I think we should use it. Google Calendar. No, it's not that much worth it. I think we are, so we need a good title right now. I say we can come up with another. I have faith.

Faith of the heart. I've got faith that we can make it up again. Surviving Offline is a real goof. It's real good. Oh, that's a typo. It's real good. Okay. That's amazing. The one little difference that makes. Thanks, the anime. Alright, thanks you guys.

I think we're all done here.