Lions Led By Donkeys Podcast - Episode 126 - The Horrible Death of President James Garfield
Episode Date: October 19, 2020Folks, it's bad. Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/lionsledbydonkeys Sources: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/dirty-painful-death-president-james-garfield https://www.washingtonpost.com.../history/2020/09/19/garfield-assassination-white-house-doctors-lied/ https://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/25/health/25garf.html https://medium.com/@simoncarryer/damn-near-killed-him-30042c796e29 https://nypost.com/2016/09/22/the-inept-doctor-who-killed-president-garfield/
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Legion of the Old Crow today. And now, back to the show. Hello and welcome to yet another lovely episode of this podcast,
A Hell of a Way to Die slash Lines Led by Donkeys slash the Lawcast or whatever it is that shocks us.
And with me today, as always, seemingly now, is Francis and Shox.
What's up, guys?
It's our Thursday night chat.
Yeah.
Why not record it and talk some shit?
Yeah, we're just here.
We're being our best, Nick.
I have some very strong opinions about whatever uniforms we're going to be discussing whatever period costume um i'm here to go whoa that's fucked up and then quote a movie so we're good you know
it's it's good though you know for me as someone who's not in the military and covers military
history but also uh that sometimes have allegories to what is happening today
with the entire inner circle of our federal government
catching fucking COVID,
is my co-host can't always comment on those things legally.
Not the way that he would want to, I would imagine.
Yeah, allegedly.
Allegedly in Minecraft.
Don't look for the first fucking amendment.
Yeah, right.
What about my rights
Nick should just take a gun and shoot his command sorry
go ahead
fuck in
Minecraft
in Minecraft
well we've already committed some like
conspiracy here so like let's go for fucking
Rico and just kick the shit off
this whole podcast is
actually a rico front rico slander i i just hang a jar outside the patreon that says for the cause
on it and uh that's all i have to do um so i thought uh we were originally going to do a
different episode today um and i think it's a very good
one but then you know like I said
the president caught COVID and might die
so I thought
what if we talked
about the time a president actually
died from horrible medical care
in the most horrific way possible
and that's why we're talking about President
James Garfield
I just have to say like it is i i know people talk about like how terrible things are right now
but like we live on like the precipice of humanity in in a way in which like if any of us got shot
right like if you if one of us got shot like say you Like if you, if one of us got shot, like say you take a shoulder shot,
you take a gut shot in the year 2020,
you get into an ambulance and you're probably,
if you have a good chance of surviving that,
because the doctors aren't going to do what all the things that Joe's about to
describe to you.
And Joe,
what,
what year,
what year are we talking about here?
We're talking the late 1800s.
Okay.
So we're talking like 150 ish years ago
100 like people don't have living memory of that but we have comprehensive history of it like 150
years ago we can tell you everything that happened we got it all written down we got newspapers we
got people we got all that stuff and that's when they did this weird stuff to people when they're
just like i don't know he's sad put leeches on him and see what happens but i don't know francis if you
call nine-on-one when i was a paramedic i might worry that you have ghosts in your blood i mean
part of it just imagine joe joe showing up with like a turkey baster full of chicken broth is
like he needs more food just jam it up his ass we'll be fine his humors are off the whole thing about this though is i feel like there's always that
like weird period of any technology that like you know like because i feel like the 1800s is the
part where they they had some idea of what the fuck they were doing but like not like you know
like they like you know anesthetics and like you know like amputation and like other stuff but
they hadn't quite gotten there yet and i just think about other stuff like like the one that always strikes
me is asbestos and i know that's like not medical care but like the fact that it was like you know
the the you know the miracle material that like everyone is going to make fucking everything from
in the future like you're gonna have fucking flying cars made out of asbestos and like you
know 1975 and then libertarian dream baby and then it just
like turns out that like oh by the way like it actually like you know just like murders you
slowly through your lungs like have fun or like uh was it a tritium that they used to like you
know paint all the watch dials and everything with and then it turns out that uranium and stuff yeah
and then it like turns out that like all the women in the
factory just had their like jaws decay
and developed like terrible forms of cancer
so uh i guess really what i'm saying
is all the people afraid of 5g are probably
right
uh
for my cell phone like our
society is going to collapse we're going to find out
in like 50 years that the reason all this
insane shit is happening right now is because of 5G.
And we're all going to look like assholes.
I'm just always surprised by like how far advanced we are in some ways.
Like, you know, in the 1400s and even before that, you know, in the 1400s, Europeans were going across the oceans.
going across the oceans but you know vikings and uh you know people all over were you know 500 years ago getting into these massive boats and and stocking up and learning to survive in different
lands and like you know the but at the same time they thought that you might have a demon in your
head and we need to like drill a hole in your skull to let the demon out oh yeah how are you
a seafaring nation? How are you?
How do you have naval wars and just
like, what do you get shot? Like, oh shit,
we'll get the ghosts out of his blood.
Well, I mean, you would just be
like, oh yeah, it's the, uh, I'm
the ship's cook and the dentist
and the trauma surgeon
and the barber
surgeon, you know, and I'm just, uh,
oh yeah, you, uh, you got a cannonball like, you know, i'm just uh oh yeah you uh you got a
cannonball like you know right through your fucking stomach in the middle of like a battle
i just lay him out on the table and i'll uh wipe off my knife that i was just using to cut chicken
and i'll see what we can do it's it's important we'll talk about this because we're going to go
a little bit about the medical science of the day but like you know this is post-civil war this is
damn near 19th you know the 1900s we invented machine guns before we got a handle on like
should we wash our hands so like and so like i guess it's a segue into this what do what do you
guys know about our glorious 20th president uh james garfield the guy who held office for about
200 days uh i i've always known him as a dude that got assassinated like kind of slowly um
and yeah that's it just garfield like what did he do like he died real early and then
then at the other end like that's his that's his noted notable it's like
he's just dead that's what that's what he did he died i actually think if more he's like he's known
as like the last uh uh log cabin republican and not like the the the weird republic like gay
republican um uh advocacy group which doesn't seem to understand their party hates them. But the fact that he grew up
dirt poor and literally lived in a log cabin.
Yeah.
He's considered the last log cabin president.
Not that that's important,
but it's interesting. He literally
grew up from nothing, like dirt, dirt poor.
Back when there was a goddamn
American dream.
Back when being dirt poor meant he literally lived on a dirt
floor.
He did get into politics. Back before they came and took it all
away. By they, I mean billionaires. Go ahead.
Those goddamn communists
took away my dirt floor.
He's an interesting character because he
just got into politics
through sheer hard work and got
elected into the House of
Representatives.
He's from Ohio. He was born in Ohio into the House of Representatives. And he's from Ohio.
He was born in Ohio in the early 1800s.
Oh, he's one of them.
I have to unfortunately hate him.
But I'm sorry, Ohio.
You're a trash state.
But it's okay.
We're all trash states, except Hawaii.
We're cool.
Now, even though a lot of people here like to yeet me into the sea and they're
fully within the right to do so,
but it was a fucking colonizer again.
Yeah.
I hate to do it.
You know,
I think Armenians are some of the only people that can get away with this
because like,
where the fuck else are we going to go,
man?
Nobody else wants us.
It's a, he was, he's an interesting guy. He, he managed to like, and nobody else wants us.
He's an interesting guy. He managed to actually do hard work
to get elected into the House of Representatives,
which back then,
it was before civil service was a thing.
And the civil service reform
is one of the few things
that he got pushed through as president
before he died.
Also, was he a capital P progressive?
Not quite yet. I remember that being like that kind of like their thing at least it was like around
here like that was like the the wasp response to like all the irish in boston was to push through
like uh civil service and a bunch of other stuff so that way like you know the those damn pappas
didn't take over the entire city too quickly well Well, his reasoning was to get rid of the old,
because this is like solidly in the Gilded Age
where it was pretty much based on like,
you know, being a patron of somebody else,
like, you know, the old boy system.
And he thought if they instituted some actual tests
and stuff, like you could get rid of that
because he didn't come from anything.
So he was like why the
fuck uh is you know so-and-so's second and third cousin just getting a deal you know because we've
effectively created the aristocracy just without the titles um well with different titles uh but
he ended up um ended up becoming a colonel in the civil war but you know back he was a state colonel
so yeah he was a way in he was a state colonel so yeah he
was a way in he was a national guardsman well that's the thing is he couldn't buy his way in
because even though he's in the house of representatives he was still poor as hell
well i just mean more like it was like it was you know he knew like you know 15 different guys in
the state government who like you know like oh you know who's a real good guy like uh you know
this asshole over here like i don't know give him a fucking colonel ship and, oh, you know who's a real good guy? Like, you know, this asshole over
here, like, I don't know, give him a fucking colonel ship and like,
I don't know, let's see what he does on the battlefield.
He pretty much just went to the governor and be like,
I want to fight because he
strongly opposed slavery.
He thought it was disgusting, mostly in religious
grounds, but also personal grounds. He thought black
people were people, which
sounds crazy. Revolutionary for the day.
Now I'm sad that he got Merck so early.
He had no money, so he had to tell the governor,
I'd really like to go fight against slavery and go shoot Confederates.
He never had a single day of military training, ever.
But he was immediately appointed colonel.
Was Garfield just doing this thing that we all did where it's just like, a single day of military training ever, but he was immediately appointed colonel.
Was Garfield just doing this thing that we all did where it's just like, I got no money, but the
army's hiring, so I guess I'll go be a
colonel and draw some money. He's like, sweet,
I get some sweet benefits here. I get some Tricare.
I'm going to get a paycheck.
I can go finally
put some money down
on a brand new pickup truck. It'll be great.
It's just a bone saw named Tricare.
It's like, I think some of it was for political reasons,
though he could have just as easily stayed his ass in office
and nobody would have judged him for it.
So, like, legitimately, he wanted to have an active part.
We're not judging you for going to shoot Confederate, Scarfield.
Please do.
That's definitely a positive.
Right.
That's cool.
It's cool that, like, Pat Tillman, I'm going to stop playing football and go fight terrorism.
Except, you know, it's Confederates.
Yeah.
And, you know, like, it's unfortunate because it means we're standing a general officer because he's eventually going to become a general.
It means we're standing a general officer because he's eventually going to become a general.
Though, like I said, he had no military experience, though he made his argument with the governor that, like, well, I've read a lot of military books.
I found the library.
Oh, so he's a boomer.
Yeah. I watched Victory at Sea 15 times, so I think I have a lot of opinions about whether or not gays should be in the military.
It's like the entirety of 1800s America
was just that one uncle of yours
who's just like, yeah, I could probably do that.
I'm fucking white, sure.
I'm white and male and nobody will tell me no.
Yeah, I'm going to go.
I'm going to be joined in the army.
I'm going to lead a battle.
I'm going to fucking win this war fuck off you know i think um it it's it's kind of interesting because
a lot of military leaders didn't have military experience during the civil war um like and how
did most of that turn out where's west point during all of this? Isn't West Point around? No, West Point's 100% a thing.
On both sides.
Yeah, they did graduate the leaders on both sides.
That's 100% true.
But this is post-Civil War, so it's around.
Well, no, this is Civil War.
This is the Civil War still.
So he's just trying to fast-track.
He's trying to do green to gold or something.
No, no training. Zero training.
This is super common, though.
So he's doing the Tom Cotton, Seth Moulton thing
where he's getting some combat experience
so he can go boomerang back into political office.
Who is that?
Not really.
He doesn't have a lot of political ambitions at this point
other than the seat that he currently has.
Are we talking
like state house yes he was he was in the ohio state house no sorry he was in the house of
representatives at the time so like but he wasn't talking about running uh for congress nothing like
that okay um yeah but yeah he was a very minor ohio representative and like so west point was
the thing they pumped out hundreds of officers every year,
but the sudden expansion of the federal army meant there was not nearly
enough officers to go around.
So like,
no ROTC to go through.
No.
And at the state level,
they'd be like,
fuck it.
You can,
if you have money,
you have connections,
whatever,
you'll become a Colonel,
you'll become a general,
stand up your own regiment.
We don't give a fuck.
Just go shoot rebels. Um, And that had mixed success, though, obviously we won.
So it ended up working in the end. Because I mean, to be fair, most of these guys,
if they failed, they would just be fired. They'd be sent home and somebody else would... I mean,
eventually they would learn how to fight. And that largely true garfield's a great example of that um i mean it's also kind of like you know
the union had a more than a little bit of the kind of the russian theory of i don't know just like
keep throwing dudes at them and eventually like i don't know maybe we'll wear them down or something
or we'll get better at it maybe one of the dudes will actually be good at something yeah
eventually they'll figure out someone who's good at
generaling and to be fair he was pretty good
he made general in a year
and you know again
to be fair I'll stand him
just a little bit more
whomst among us has not been like
yeah I'm not really qualified for this but I'm sure I can figure it out
that's been my whole life
this doesn't seem too hard
I can figure it out and then boom you're a general that's like 70 of being a lawyer if i'm honest you know people like
oh well uh you know do i do you think i have like a legal claim here it's like
well uh maybe and then you say like you know a bunch of words that make it sound like you know
what's going on and then you actually go back to your office and do about like two hours worth of
legal research on west law and then you know and then you can actually pretend to be an expert hell yeah that's kind of what i mean he did he found
his way into combat wasn't in direct control he was subordinate to other generals and stuff
and he got promoted and he got put on the staff of general william rosecrans
who was a renowned fucking idiot um and he kind of defeated his own army at the battle of chickamonga
because he could not give clear orders uh it like he told one side of his formation to do something
completely different than the other and then the only so the only thing that law that made the
battle of chickamonga not a complete disaster for the union and even though it almost was was uh garfield uh garfield kind of like because he uh he ordered
his units to pull back rosecrans did uh thinking that everybody else was also pulling back leaving
about half of his army to die um and garfield was kind of had it like just kind of had a feeling in
the pit of his stomach he's like i have a feeling there's still men fighting uh so just kind of had a feeling in the pit of his stomach. He's like, I have a feeling there's still men fighting.
So he kind of rallied a relief force to go fight out the coming encirclement
and get those men out.
Otherwise, the Union would have lost a godly amount of people.
And for that, Rose Kranz was fired,
and Garfield got promoted again to major general,
though he resigned his commission because the guy that was replacing his boss is Grant.
And he didn't like Grant, something that will come up again later. And to be fair,
Grant didn't like him either. And he went back to the House of Representatives. But I mean,
he went from colonel to major general in two years. And he went back to the House of Representatives. But I mean, he went from colonel to
major general in two years.
And in the same time frame, I went from specialist
to corporal to specialist again. So who am I
to judge?
Wait a minute, though. So he
just in the middle of the war was just like,
well, that's enough of that.
I mean, because the war
isn't over, right?
It's absolutely not over.
Yeah, grant still has
gettysburg to do so he's just like two years is like major general that's cool that's good from
a shadow box time to go on back home this is like what the fuck he was actually good he was he was
good at his job yeah you you you forget that like in the civil war there were a lot of absolutely
bumbling leaders because it's just like you're connected and have money so you
get to do this and all the
dumb broke people who would have
been us are just like you guys go get
to get trench foot and
use broken muskets and shit so
it's but it's just
incredible that he's
good at this and was just like no I
don't want to do it anymore was uh we're
like we're term of years contracts like things for like officers in the civil war no because i know
that like well i just like because i remember like for enlisted it was you know like particularly
the beginning of the war like people signed enlistment contracts that were like i don't know
like you know like 180 days long or whatever the fuck and so it was just you know and they
had a problem with that because they would just have to muster dudes out after like, you know, a battle.
Yeah, there's I'm not entirely sure the normal enlistment contract or draft order for enlisted people, but they can certainly not just like, you know, I'm good and then just leave.
But one of the he's he was over it.
He openly admitted he did not like combat like go fucking figure dude um but
one of the reasons why he returned to government like because at first he's like you know i'll stay
being a general whatever but he was worried that stained appointed generals like himself not
federal generals uh would get shit assignments during and after the war and he thought um that
going back home and working in
government would be better than like getting a station in like i don't know kentucky or something
i tossed kentucky out there because the worst place i've ever been stationed
and i should point out i've been stationed at fort hood so what's up fort knox you're terrible
um it was really funny a small side note there's like
a Civil War fort
outside of Fort Knox
and they try to dance around the issue
that the fort never saw combat
during the Civil War
because like that makes a really boring
like museum piece I was like so what
because I was 17 when I got there
so like so what battle got fought here
like none of them.
Anyway, moving on.
Like, well, that's fucking lame.
That's like, does anybody want to go visit the fucking coastal guns in Florida?
No.
So during this time, it was decided he should run for Congress.
Like, Lincoln personally told him that he should return and run for Congress.
Because reasons. I mean, shoring up Republicans who wanted to support the war.
And people were stridently anti-slavery at that point was probably a big thing for him.
Absolutely. I'm not going to go too hard into period politics because they're kind of crazy,
but they were considered radical Republicans at
the time, which are people who are hardcore anti-slavery, very, very pro-Reconstruction.
And Garfield was so pro-Reconstruction. We'll talk about that in a little bit.
So Lincoln's like, I need this guy in Congress. And also at the time, Ohio had just been
redistricted. So all of his friends lincoln includes like yo all you gotta
do is run and you'll win so he tossed his hat into the arena and actually just refused to campaign
like he's like i'm not gonna go campaign for this shit i'll hire you to do it for me and he hired
his manager uh and that worked like as lazy as that fucking sounds it worked that's some strong house of
representatives energy right there if we're honest like that's like some real that's a real like you
know giving us that jk3 would be proud i'm just saying look and and now james garfield is the
inventor of the hype man you know like he's you know he's just like hey flavor flay just you know
go around and and talk
me up and just send send a dude out like i don't want to talk to these assholes just wearing a
fucking supreme uh pop hat right he created he created the uh the first uh mc to to go out and
he uh he did my favorite thing which is what mike t did. And that is he paid a guy $100,000 a day to just stand out in the crowd and yell, guerrilla warfare during press releases. And that's 100% something that actually happened. It's one of my favorite Mike Tyson stories.
crocodile as well. But I don't know how he won. I didn't look too hard into the campaign,
but I assume his candidate must have ran the worst campaign in human history,
outside of Hillary Clinton, because he lost to a guy who didn't even campaign for his own candidacy. But he didn't actually take seat in Congress. He was still in the House of Representatives
because there was a huge gap. So during that in the House of Representatives because there was a
huge gap. So during that time, like I said, he was a radical Republican, which when I say radical
Republican today, that just means you're a Nazi. But in the 1800s, it meant that you wanted to
literally punish the South for rising up to defend slavery and their slavers rebellion.
Garfield thought plantations should be seized by the government and
redistributed to black people.
Rad.
Uh,
and rebel leaders should be executed on site without,
without trial.
Also rad.
He's like,
how,
how did,
how did the best president get fucking killed so quickly?
It's a,
a reason dumber than you could possibly expect.
Um, and, uh, so quickly. It's a reason dumber than you could possibly expect.
And so one of the things that he wanted to do was punish the South so
hard that slavery
and the concept of slavery would never rise
up again. And he said that
if he was in Congress, he said
Congress should be obliged to, quote,
determine what legislation is necessary to secure
equal justice to all loyal
persons without regard to color.
I'm sorry.
I'm still stuck on like just punish them.
Yeah.
I don't know why that got in my head, but I just I'm sorry.
I had to throw that out there.
He's going to dom the fuck out of the South.
Yeah, just like absolutely just like spanking the shit out of the South.
Like he was one of the most extreme people
that would have been in Congress,
which
is awesome. He also
supported a change to conscription laws
because he hated the conscription laws.
At the time, if you say
your draft number got pulled and
you had money, you could pay what was known as a
bounty and escape the draft. It would
skip down to the next guy in line, which is really fucked up.
And to be fair, Lincoln also supported getting rid of this.
He just needed support to do it, hence why getting him into Congress.
And the reason why that was still a law, it was one of those ye olde things.
But also, people in Congress literally didn't have a concept of money.
They figured that the level of bounty was so low in their heads that almost anybody could afford to buy their way out.
When in reality, less than 1% of people could do that.
people could do that uh garfield noted that when he mustered his regiment which he had to do himself mostly out of former students uh which is kind of fucked up but he didn't draft people like he
went to their houses and recruited them yeah um he noted that like out of 30 000 people
1 000 people paid their bounty yeah so like i mean he was pissed i can only imagine that like
i can only imagine the same situation reoccurring today like fucking you know like pelosi and
everybody else like you know just reenacting arrest the development like i don't know michael
like how much can it be how much can a bounty be like ten dollars like like yeah exactly like it
would be the exact same shit today it's like schitt's creek
when a guy thinks minimum wage is 45 dollars um but he would not stop ascending politics because
you know we're talking about president here uh he would become president in even a weirder way
possible than he became a congressman in 188080, Garfield had been reelected to his position with the help of his friend, John Sherman. Sherman had, not that Sherman, different
Sherman, had presidential dreams and intended on running in the upcoming election. Garfield said,
okay, you helped me get elected. I'll help you get the Republican nomination for president.
Now, at the time, the Republican party was rocked by internal infighting and
factionalism, thankfully something that no longer happens and negatively impacts the well-being of
an entire nation. Several of the men who wanted to run for the party's nominations were countered by
men who were part of a different faction within the party, leading to nobody being able to secure
the party's nomination with enough votes. Now, the factions are largely unimportant.
For instance, Ulysses S. Grant was attempting to run for a third term,
which was not illegal. Obviously, FDR became president three times, but Grant tried to do
it the first time. There's a chance that he maybe could have won, but there's some people who
fucking hated him.
So they had to go through multiple ballots to see who could get the required number of votes.
They went through dozens of ballots between the two frontrunners, President Grant and a guy named Senator James Blaine. Neither one of them could get the required amount of votes.
While there were some outliers like Sherman, who you remember the guy who
Garfield was supporting, who were not getting even remotely enough votes. So the Sherman people
quickly changed over to support Blaine. There's other movers and shakers supporting other people,
but still nobody had a majority of votes. Now this time a random representative from pennsylvania casted a single
ballot for james garfield for no apparent reason other than he seemed to be sick of the entire
process political shit posting i mean same dude yes um and like this is despite that one garfield
was not running for president nor had he ever spoken openly about a
desire to ever do so um this happened so this happened and then like nobody told him about it
because like this happened a couple other times like fuck it i'll just throw a a ballot for this
dude fuck i'll throw a ballot for this dude uh but this began to happen more. In one case, as the convention wore on,
a dozen Wisconsin delegates switched their votes to Garfield.
And when he heard about it, he was confused and protested.
He argued that people could not legally vote for him
as he was not running,
and they were voting for him against his consent.
Like, why are you voting for me? Fuck fuck it let's vote for that guy
oh just trolling someone by accidentally making them president yeah like it's important to point
out that he didn't subscribe to really either one of the two major factions he was an outlier
so like backroom politicking took over factions within the party were resistant to a third grant term for historical reasons. A lot of the reasons why people were
historically against a third term as president is that George Washington only did two.
So therefore, every other president should only do two. Hence why FDR running and winning a third
term, everybody's like, how dare he? And clutch their pearls or whatever.
So like a lot of people were historically against that,
breaking that taboo,
while others were just like,
no, fuck Grant, he'll lose.
Like if he wins our nomination again,
he's going to lose
because he wasn't the most popular president on earth.
So it was like the two sides
who hated each other,
but hated grant
more banded together to throw all of their
votes behind garfield who remember
was still not running
for president
and did not want to be president and did
not want to be president yeah
he was telling people this now
like if like it was like actually turned
out to be like a split like democratic
national convention who would they nominate
who like absolutely didn't want to be fucking
president anybody other than
Bernie Sanders if it's the DNZ
no but like but like someone that both
sides could agree on but also someone who
themselves absolutely did not want
to be president I don't know George
W Bush at this point I imagine
I imagine
every every politician wants to be the president at this point i imagine i imagine every every politician wants to be the president at
this point yeah that's the thing like i can't imagine someone just like really doubling down
and saying like no fuck you i'm not gonna run for president what the fuck do you want from me
well in the 1880s they didn't have nuclear weapons that you could fucking rub your dick all over so
yeah but no one actually like does anything with those like i mean if we nuked people in a greater you know we followed uh it's what's that perception it's the japanese enter the
chat i was gonna say uh you know unless you want it we're gonna make uh was bappin fucking president
so you can just glass russia like he wants to uh so like at this point garfield was like well if
they're gonna vote for me there's clearly nothing I can do to tell them otherwise.
So on the very next ballot, Garfield received three hundred and ninety nine votes.
Ninety three more than Grant and over the three hundred and seventy nine needed to secure the nomination for the Republican candidate for president.
Oh, that fucking that rock so hard.
Garfield was not happy with this turn of
events how how much do you say how much did people just hate grant back then enough really i mean he
was he wasn't a bad president but he had a couple scandals um there was also yeah even back then
people were were very much against like the breaking of civility rules.
Even in the Gilded Age, we're like, you're running a third term, how could you?
So that turned a lot of people against him.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Like, Garfield was so unhappy with this.
One reporter noted that he, quote, looked pale as death and seemed to be half-consciously to receive the congratulations of his friends.
his death and seemed to be half consciously to receive the congratulations of his
friends.
He later told his
friends, quote, this honor comes to me
unsought. I have never had presidential
fever, not even for a day, not even
right now.
Fuck you all!
This accidental presidential...
Just actively flipping everybody off.
Just like two birds On a fucking podium
It's like when your friends get the people to sing
Happy birthday whenever you go out to eat
This accidental presidential
Candidate went on to win the general election
Seemingly becoming the first president to
Become president against his will
Thankfully that would
Never happen to the Republican
Party ever again
which honestly might end up being
like means he's the only like non
sociopath I've ever become president
in this country he he seems
relatively put together
like even though he didn't want to be president
he ended up becoming a decent one for at least the
short time he was president
like for instance there was something called the star
route scandal that
popped up.
Without going into the pins and needles and whatever of it, it's like various members of
the government to include both the Democrat and Republican Party were buying and selling postal
routes out West for a huge profit, something that was considered very illegal for them to do.
Rather than do the normal thing and gloss over all this and get his own money,
because remember,
this is the Gilded Age,
he ordered a full investigation
into the scandal,
not even sparing the people
in his own political party
when it came to holding people accountable.
But because he was a seemingly decent man,
that meant, of course,
that something terrible
was going to happen to him.
You know, I am starting to...
I've always held fast to a theory
that the best person to be a president
is a person who doesn't want to be
president, and now I'm upset
that Garfield
dies, and I don't get to either
be correct or incorrect about that.
Yeah, see, like a full four years of it, because
I really do think that, you know,
I agree with you.
That the only person you could ever trust to be president is someone who absolutely doesn't fucking want to.
Yeah.
And I mean, I don't know what...
He was in office for less than a year.
So it's impossible to say like maybe he'll do something awful later on.
There's no telling.
But it sounds like if you're gonna make if if there was a guy
to become president against his will in the 1880s i guess james garfield is kind of your guy
yeah i i think so um and like on july 2nd 1881 garfield is walking through the baltimore and
potomac train station something that no longer stands from my understanding. And he was planning on leaving Washington
D.C. for a family vacation in New Jersey.
I assume because he hated his family
and wanted to subject them to New Jersey.
Also, it's bonkers
to me to picture a president calmly
walking through a fucking train station
just on his own.
Just hanging out,
getting a fucking hot dog, going to
Sbarro.
Does presidential security exist now like does the secret service exist kind of sort of form of
yeah it kind of exists because this is after lincoln got shot um right so security exists
but not even to the like because garfield would even be the last president shot in the next couple
of years.
So presidents were lousy with bullets at this point.
There's a steep learning curve.
And it's like, we just got to stop getting... If we could get the presidents to stop getting shot, guys,
that's our goal here.
Yeah, it's like, what's the odds this happens again?
It was the Pinkertons, right?
It was like that was the genesis of the Secret Service was the Pinkertons, right? That was the genesis of the Secret Service, was the Pinkertons.
If I remember correctly.
Garfield had some bodyguards, but not really.
They didn't go with him everywhere because they didn't think that it was necessary.
Yeah, it's unfortunate.
But while he was at the train station, a guy named Charles Gouteau appeared.
Gouteau was a former Garfield supporter.
He had worked and wrote for the Republican party,
like writing like fluff pieces during the election.
He's effectively,
uh,
I don't know.
He,
he worked for the equivalent of like one America news,
um,
writing like just very,
very pro Republican pieces,
like making rhyming posters and stuff,
very minor shit.
But he came to the conclusion
that he was personally responsible
for the election of Garfield as president.
So he is, you know, Charlie Kirk, I guess?
I don't know.
No, he's Jack Pasebic.
Yeah, he's piss boy Jack.
Yeah.
So hoping to bank on this totally devoid of reality idea that he had floating around in his head, he wrote countless letters to the White House after Garfield's election and to the party demanding to be appointed to a position within the government like some kind of consulate or something like that.
But just to be clear, Garfield had no fucking idea who this guy was
either did anyone in his staff um though apparently he bothered um i believe it was
garfield's chief of staff so often in the street over this that he did eventually get to know who
he was just as the crazy guy who wouldn't stop yelling at um so yeah um but we've all been
thinking yeah i mean who hasn't yelled at a member of government
so often in the streets they've learned to know your name and face i mean that's actually like a
goal that i have for the coming fiscal year everybody everybody should yeah in real life
shit posting yeah every politician should have what that one person to like ah fuck
or like a neighborhood, a whole city.
Like, um,
but he was banking on this job.
Like there was no idea of a doubt in his head.
Right.
Like he wasn't like,
you know,
I need to have a plan B or a plan C should Garfield told me to go fuck
myself.
So like,
he's like,
no,
I'm going to get this job.
So he quickly ran out of money.
He was broken living on the street. Um, something that he personally ran out of money. He was broke and living on the street, something that he
personally blamed Garfield for. So that morning when Garfield was hoping to jump on a train and
go hit the GTL on the Jersey shore, Guto was waiting for him. And Guto spent the last few
dollars that he had on a British Bulldog revolver solely because he liked the way it looked and he
thought it looked cool in a
museum because he knew that's where it would end up when he
shot the president with it.
I mean,
we need
more historically forward-thinking
assassins.
I feel like that's the revolver
that the NYPD posted that they
obfuscated someone a couple days ago.
I can't comment further on what Francis said
because I think the Secret Service will bust through my window.
Now you're in Hawaii.
It's fine.
It's the Secret Service, just they're wearing Aloha shirts.
That's just a Boogaloo boy.
I think those are just Boogaloo boys, yeah.
Not in Hawaii. I keep saying this.
They're just shirts here
like uh hawaiians won't stand for white people stealing one more thing from them
uh so guto bust out of the crowd drew his pistol and shot garfield twice uh
one bullet grazed his arm and the second hit him in the back, passed by his spine and burst through his first lumbar vertebrae
and lodged in his abdomen.
Garfield collapsed, remaining conscious, but unable to stand,
mostly because the bullet had just blasted through his back
and screamed, my God, what is this?
I wanted to make some kind of Garfield joke that's like,
I really don't like Mondays
but then I realized that like the president got shot in the spine
so like maybe I don't know
John Arbuckle was nearby
it's so sad too because this is the president of the United States
and yet when you google Garfield
it is all orange cats that love lasagna.
You know, it's unfortunate because that Garfield was president of the United States for 201 days.
So he was a longer time than James Garfield. And like when he got shot, Garfield thought he was
going to die. So like when doctors arrived, he told them to like ah leave me alone i'm fucked like don't bother with me uh but but he wasn't he survived um immediately anyway
and he came under the the care of dr willard bliss now i should point out i'm saying that name
doctor because that was his first name name his name was dr willard bliss uh he he was a civil war surgeon so he actually was a doctor
like says full name was dr dr willard bliss um though being a doctor in the 1800s is like more
of a vibe you know like it was like you learned from on the job training so so i just had
to break in for a second and say that there was actually someone in my law school who was named
i'm pretty sure if i remember correctly was named stanford law no fucking way and i did not go to
stanford uh or a school that was close to that like in legal rankings so that must have been a real the fuck
disappointment for his parents
you gotta immediately change my name to
Boston Community College
fucking Knights at Suffolk
you know
it doesn't have quite the same ring to it
I don't know DeVry is a really nice
last name
got a very French sound to it.
That's why my middle name is Universally Phoenix.
Joe, I-Z-T-Tech, Kasabian.
The standard for the day, like we've talked about before,
about what kind of medicine we're talking about.
And it mostly involved like germ theory wasn't a thing yet,
but it was bad.
And I need to point out that
Dr. Bliss
was a bad doctor
even for the day of bad doctors.
During the Civil War, when 99%
of his jaw was hacking off limbs with a
saw, he simply ran
away from his own medical tent and fled the
battle, leaving thousands of
soldiers without medical care to be fair i'm not entirely sure if that's a negative for the soldiers
who are wounded or not um and then like he he wrote home saying that like there was a savage
battle i am unhurt because he left out the part where he's like because i ran away um uh it but
this is the 1800s.
Word didn't travel far about him being a bad doctor.
And he was eventually
appointed to
what other position
could he possibly
be appointed to
but the head of a
Veterans Affairs hospital.
Now, like,
the VA didn't quite exist yet.
So this is like
a hospital for veterans.
But it's a VA fucking hospital.
Like, he was appointed personally by lincoln uh because people told him that he was a good doctor so like i guess
back then when nobody could just like google your name and realize like that you're a huge idiot
um that just your reputation is all that matters uh And he had a good reputation that he spread mostly from himself.
He could not shut up about how great he was as a doctor,
even though literally anybody he worked with had the exact opposite to say.
So this is just like the hype beast episode.
Yeah, absolutely.
We're hyping our way into the presidency.
We're hyping our way into becoming a doctor.
We got a hype man, and that's how we're getting through life.
It's a hustle and grind lifestyle it reminds me a lot of there was this guy i cannot
remember his fucking name somebody will probably be able to do it that uh made up mma championships
for himself and like put him online in the early 2000s like just when ufc was becoming a thing just
when mma was really born in the collective consciousness.
And he was like blowing himself
up online about how good he was
and he actually talked himself into
a professional bout and got
fucking annihilated within seconds.
Like
you have to admire the hustle, but you don't
bite into your own grift.
There's a point where the propaganda
has to stop, even for own grift. Right. There's a point where the propaganda has to stop,
even for yourself, man.
Yeah.
Not if you're Dr. Willard Bliss, however.
To be fair, he seemed good enough at logistics and paperwork
because he ran his hospital well.
But he was apparently thought of high enough
that when Lincoln got shot in 1865,
someone's like, I know a doctor doctor we have to go get Dr. Bliss
so he ended up as part of the staff
working on President Lincoln's gaping
head wound
so he's got experience in holes in
President that's right
though if you
read Bliss's accounts he was the head
doctor for Lincoln but he actually
didn't do anything the head doctor is a guy named, he was the head doctor for Lincoln, but he actually didn't do anything.
The head doctor is a guy named Charles Leal.
Is that it?
The head doctor?
Oh, God damn it.
I hate it.
But Leal was a humble dude.
And also, remember, Lincoln died, so there wasn't really anything to brag about.
I mean, he was shot in the fucking head,
so of course he was going to die.
Yeah, details.
But Bliss wrote endlessly about how much work
that he did on Lincoln.
But, you know, spoiler alert, Lincoln did not survive.
But Bliss just stood in the room,
and when the media came calling,
he was more than willing to talk about how great he was
and how much work that he did on Lincoln.
So the Swedenman is something of a minor celebrity.
Nobody digs inside presidential holes like I do.
Nobody can do it.
Nobody figures that brain quite like me, which he did do.
We'll talk a little bit more about that later on, though.
The old brain figuring.
That's right.
He had, like,
he was Gilded Age popular
in certain circles. Like, people knew
what his name was. So he used that
newfound fame to do what else?
Sell fake cancer cures!
He's fucking Ben Shapiro's brain pills um and like it was like one of those like this will fix phlebotomy and and toxic blood cancer and things like it was
like literally snake oil and morphine and like some cocaine it didn't it didn't have fucking
shit in it uh it was literally water
like so much so that the american medical association at the time charged him with quackery
um and like it it dented his reputation but like i said word doesn't travel so he was able to just
like shrug it off.
Yeah, it's not like there's an internet.
You can just say, fuck it, and move a state away or just go start a new state and be like,
look, I'm the best doctor in this state that I just invented.
Yeah, exactly.
So anybody in the know knew this guy was a bit of an idiot and a quack.
But most people didn't remember or care
because he's just a fucking doctor.
But one person did know about him
and had nothing but good things to say about him.
And that was when Robert Todd Lincoln,
the son of President Lincoln,
remembered him as the kind and talented doctor
who worked on his father in his dying moments.
Robert Todd Lincoln also happened to be
President Garfield's
Secretary of War.
So when somebody yelled out...
Yep.
Fuck.
So when somebody yelled out,
the president's been shot.
Lincoln was the only dude
in the room
who just happened to know a guy.
He was like,
I got a guy for this.
Specifically just for this.
I got a president
gunshot wound guy.
Wasn't there a third one that he was around for?
Yes, the one after this.
Was that McKinley?
Yeah, and after that,
he refused any and all presidential summons.
It's like the curse of the lion,
but it's one of the Lincoln sons.
The dude's the death note, but for presidents.
Also, can you imagine seeing that happen twice and thinking,
you know who I want on my fucking White House staff?
Someone dig up Robert Todd Lincoln
and just chuck his skeleton into the front yard of Mar-a-Lago.
So unfortunately for Garfield, Dr. Bliss ended up becoming his head physician.
Now, Garfield, who was conscious this entire time, also knew of Dr. Bliss as the guy who
worked in the Veterans Hospital. And also they knew each other from the war. And from what
Garfield knew about medicine, which was nothing, he was a good doctor and a solid guy.
So when he heard Bliss was in charge of his
care, he was relieved, thinking
that a not-insane person would be
tending to his wounds. Unfortunately,
he would be very, very wrong.
So Garfield
was moved to the White House for treatment.
Now, if you're thinking, that's not
a hospital room. How could you sanitize
a White house bedroom
Well cleanliness was not an accepted part of American medicine at the time
Neither was sepsis prevention or germ theory
So a doctor named Joseph Lister
Had actually introduced the concept of washing your hands
With something just as simple as water
Before touching patients all the way back in the 1860s. But it was not widely adopted and people thought it was ridiculous and
was considered a pseudoscience by the AMA. And at the time, the AMA actually had a belief or
had a policy that if you engage in any of these pseudoscientific beliefs or what they consider pseudoscientific beliefs,
you no longer be certified by the AMA.
So if you washed your
hands as a point of practice, you would be
decertified. Hell yeah.
Now just remember that when I explain
literally everything else that happens to
President Garfield.
Now I should point out that
Bliss was dirty pretty much
all the time, even not when he was
taking care of patients. Like people noted that his jacket was always filthy and stained. Uh,
and this is like just how he waltzed into his treatment room. Like he was pig pen, but PhD
or MD, sorry. Um, but what was normal for the day was anesthetic anesthetic had been around for quite some time
now i mean granted it was something as simple as like chloroform or morphine or opium but bliss
didn't use that either okay he so throughout all of this i'm gonna say it countless times
garfield feels everything he's not been given any
anesthetic and he's been shot
hours ago now so my dude's just
like lying on the table in the like
in the White House not in an actual
hospital with dude with
like mustard stains on his
fucking blazer like wandering
in who's just like
I don't know like let me feel around in there
with my like you know
i just finished jerking off 10 minutes ago like time to just like go digging around your gut wound
and has like fucking rib sauce all over his hand sorry gotta wipe these off real quick
like i mean what did he what did he learn from the the lincoln assassination as we know absolutely
nothing well they jammed fingers into his brain it It's like, well, let's do the same thing.
See what happens.
Yeah, and that is part of science at the time.
So when Garfield was in the treatment room,
Bliss jammed his unwashed fingers into the president's wound,
trying to find the bullet.
All while Garfield was still conscious and feeling everything.
Now, a key principle behind this probing was to remove the bullet
because it was thought at the time
that leaving buckshot or slug or whatever
in a person's body led to problems
ranging from, quote,
morbid poisoning,
which is a condition that does not exist,
to nerve and organ damage
just by virtue of it being inside of you.
Well, let's learn this
because he watched the treatment
of President Lincoln.
It was shot in the fucking head and that did not matter. Now, of course,
anyone who has been shot or has shrapnel or even something as simple as a splinter inside of them
knows that having these things lodged in your body isn't actually important unless it's pressing
against something important, say like an organ or your spine, and it's causing more damage.
What's more important is the trauma that it causes on its path to do.
I treated gunshot victims before in my ambulance.
I did not jam my goddamn hand into them looking for the bullet.
Neither did the doctors once we got them to the hospital.
That's not what you fucking do unless you watch movies, which I'm assuming is what Bliss did for his education,
even though movies hadn't been invented yet.
Just like a pictogram?
It's Blackhawk down, but in a flip book.
A flip book of someone digging through Lincoln's head
with his fucking brains?
Brain fist.
Oh, sweet. That was a solid metal name yeah
hell yeah put that on the list after fucking corpse road um now uh so this whole time he's
rapidly fingering this guy's back because remember that's where the hole is
and he's trying to find the bullet, which he's never going to find because I don't know how big this dude's fingers are,
but he was shot in the back,
and the bullet ended up on the left side of his body
in his abdomen.
So he never found it.
He was never going to come close.
So he believed that the only important thing
was finding this bullet and removing it.
However, Bliss would not find this bullet,
and he just kept on
fingering Garfield's back with
his gross hands, which are only
getting grosser at this point.
Just picturing him
wiping off his hands to go eat
but not vice
versa. He's never
washing his hands at any point.
He's just cross-contamining the
entire White House.
Garfield told the doctors that he didn't feel good and he was losing feeling in his legs and feet you know from being shot in the fucking vertebrae uh this surprised bliss because he
didn't know what that could possibly mean it should be noted that people knew what your spine did at this point in time
like they didn't completely like they didn't have map they didn't have like nerve maps or anything
but it was roughly understood that like spinal injury would cause paralysis at various points
like like the science isn't exact but like if you take a bullet in your spine,
you know why you're paralyzed. Um, but he didn't really care. He ignored that and just went on to
kept trying to find the bullet. Um, so this brings up something else, unlike what most people think
or believe, uh, or see on TV, unless you're familiar with the concept, bullet entrance wounds are very, very small.
Like normally it's exit wounds that are blown out and awful.
Entrance wounds are normally very small,
especially at close range.
So Bliss came to the conclusion
that the bullet wound was simply too small
for him to find using his fingers.
Oh no.
Oh no. No, no. no it's not it's not he began to cut away at the wound making it larger and larger eventually shoving his entire
fucking hand into the president's back remember the wound is in his back so the president's laying
on his stomach getting literally impaled by this dude's fist.
Joe, I just want to be clear
just to make sure we're using the
correct terminology. So now as a paramedic,
does this count as
blowing out his back walls?
I want to make sure I'm using the correct medical terminology
here. It's very important to me.
Mr. Bliss, blow out these back walls um so he's feeling his guts in reverse
um and i have to say like without seeing his on top reports i couldn't find them i only could
find notes but he's causing literally just so much damage President Garfield's insights
who is somehow still alive
I can just picture him like being like no we need to open
this up more he just like gets the revolver
and starts blowing more holes
shoot a couple more
bullets in there see if I can go find the first one
yeah I need to like you know
the only thing that can stop a bad bullet is a good bullet
it'll follow the same path of travel
it'll be fine like you. If we shoot him again,
we'll know which way the bullet went.
Yeah.
By the time Bliss was done cutting,
he had opened a 20
inch long incision beginning
at his ribs and extending all
the way down to his groin.
Yeah.
We're just going to split this monkey
open. Just like flayed him open like as a fucking deer.
And nobody's washing anything.
This is on like a kitchen table in the fucking White House.
So this wound eventually became a giant pus filled gash of human flesh.
Like and it smelled rancid.
Like people in the room were vomiting.
flesh like and it smelled rancid like people in the
room were vomiting so just
pus and infection and like
a weeping wound on top of people vomiting
everywhere as a matter of course
vomiting into the wound
this will help me find it
celebrate back the skin
celebrating Halloween by carving
a fucking jack-o'-lantern in the president's stomach
it's like two doctors one bullet celebrating Halloween by carving a fucking jack-o'-lantern in the president's stomach.
Two doctors, one bullet.
Fuck.
So, to the surprise of, I assume, everyone in the room at this point,
Garfield began burning up with fever.
Something that happens when people have fucking sepsis.
Now, for people unaware, sepsis is a literal full body systemic infection that you get from everything i've just been talking about
so the people around bliss not bliss himself became concerned by this you know the fever
that's gonna kill him um and wanted to bring the president's temperature down
bliss ignored them thinking they had no idea what they were talking about i guess like thankfully
they just like got some uh army corps of engineers to like build a weird fan that blew uh air over a
block of ice but like you know if this is like a hot summer day which it was like it was summer
in dc now so like it's gross and humid
but like that wasn't the problem of why he was overheating he was overheating because he was
dying from the inside out uh but like i guess points where points are considered or something
um and this is when some weird shit happens but let's enlist the help of Alexander Graham Bell, the inventor
of the telephone. Look, I've
brought this up, because Alexander
Graham Bell got brought in for a lot of things.
Alexander Graham Bell was the only
smart person in like three states
that anybody could think of, and that's why.
Yeah. He would get called in
for all kinds of shit.
This is like the real life version of like whenever
anyone posts like
you know in the name of that man albert einstein like except you just bring in fucking like alex
like i feel like it's like i feel like that's why we ended up with the character of like the smart
dumb guy that we have that's like now like fucking uh like elon musk or someone like him
because we have this like historical tradition of just being like, I don't know.
He did like one smart thing once.
So like,
let's get him to consult on everything else.
Like,
Hey,
invented the telephone.
Uh,
I don't know.
Uh,
what do you feel about,
how do you feel about stomach surgery?
Like how bad can you fuck it up?
Yeah.
Or they,
or they would bring him in for,
uh,
for,
for bridges.
Like,
yeah,
you can do,
you can do engineering too.
Right.
Yeah.
And like,
let's,
let's also not forget that he electrocuted an elephant to death.
That was Edison.
That was Edison.
That was Edison?
Okay.
Yeah, that was Edison using his opponent's
electrical current.
Like, look how dangerous it is.
Yeah.
So I have to point out,
Alexander Graham Bell is the only smart person in this entire story. He had come up with a device current and like look how dangerous it is yeah um but so i have to point out alexander granbell
is the only smart person this entire story um he had come up with a device known as the induction
balance pretty much what is metal detector um but he believed that he could locate the bullet
within the president using electricity and magnetism he had a metal detector oh good oh
good a magnet i'm sure that'll really help.
What you want to do when you have someone who has
shrapnel or
a bullet wound or something inside of their
flesh is to put a really
strong magnet right on the other side.
Yeah, it's just Alexander Graham
Bell going up to the president and just placing
refrigerator magnets all over
him until they stick. And he's like, I found it.
But to be fair, the induction balins did work.
He had tested it on multiple Civil War veterans
and located metal and shrapnel within their bodies.
So even though it sounds kind of ridiculous,
he's like, I'm going to use electricity to save your life.
There was basis in reality.
And he had done...
If you were to measure it by like what we consider rigorous scientific studies today no it didn't pass but like for the late
1800s this shit was science in comparison to everything that bliss was doing this is fucking
cutting edge um so bliss was wary of letting anyone else care for the president for fear of them stealing his glory
for being the guy who took care of the president so rather than let bell use his own invention
bliss hijacked it fucked with it a few times and decided the newfound technology just simply didn't
work um now there's a very good reason why this didn't work one he so he thought the bullet was lodged
near the president's liver so he had no reason to believe that mind you he just thought it was
uh so he only used the induction balance over that particular area like yep didn't find the
bullet doesn't work also graham bell told him hey, you can't use this on a mattress because
mattresses back then all have metal springs in them. It's going to fuck it up. You have to take
them off the mattress. He didn't do that either. So the induction balance didn't work. Now,
probably the funniest thing about all of this is that the x-ray machine had been invented five years before
and would have absolutely found the bullet um now x-ray machines were still rare and very expensive
but there was one in washington dc um and the only reason they didn't take him to it is dr bliss
thought it would be unsafe to move him now Now, after declaring moving him from that bedroom unsafe, he immediately jammed his hands back into his affected wounds.
Well, yeah, I mean, you had to clean him out.
I mean, you didn't want to, like, you know, just touch your hot dog without, you know, cleaning your hands by putting them in the president's stomach first.
At this point, it's just him with a bucket bailing out pus and infection we're losing them
we're sinking it's actually following up it's how navy corpsmen were invented this was uh
just coring out the president to use as a canoe
now i i do have to say this again um like at this point garfield's burning up with fever but he's still conscious enough
to feel most of this but his fever had gotten so bad he was starting to become confused
um because his brain was frying from all the infection now that's what that's what happens
when you have sepsis joe i want, I want to get a time hack here.
How long at this point,
we've got Edison and the metal detector,
how long has it been since the shooting?
A couple months.
Okay.
No, it's been about a month at this point.
So my man, you got a hand at Segarfield.
He's got all this shit happening and he's still lingering.
Any one of us would have just died.
Oh yeah. Garfield's tougher than shit.
And everybody's noting,
people who aren't Bliss, this whole
time Bliss assumes he's still alive because of his
medical treatment. Everybody else is like,
God damn, this guy won't die.
If they had done
nothing, if literally they had just
done nothing except like put a put like a because there's no exit wound right the bullet was in him
yeah so if they just like patched him up and just been like i don't know sit there for a couple of
days and we'll bring you some food and if anything kind of moves weird we'll do something about it
and he probably would have lived yeah at least he would have had a better chance. Most modern historians and doctors believe that if,
and I mean,
like I hate to like take modern stuff and throw it into,
into history,
but using science of the day,
which remember hand-washing does exist.
It's just not widespread.
So if you had a doctor who just washed his hands and just
patched up the bullet hole there is a possibility he lived um though nobody really knows because
like by the time he died and we'll talk about this at the end so much damage had been done to
the inside of him nobody was really sure how much the bullet did right so like because they'd hauled him out to make
him a fucking canoe and so they
yeah like all of his like he's
just like sitting there like with all his organs
next to him like in the fucking room at this point
just in a pan and someone's
occasionally pouring water over them
I mean it doesn't like I would have been like
I would have been like trying to like you know get my
bodyguards gun at that point and just like putting a
bullet in my head like you know versus having like you know Dr. What's is to like you know get my bodyguards gun at that point and just like putting a bullet in my head like you know
versus having like you know Dr. What's
his nuts like you know dig his fucking like
you know like fist
my fucking spleen for like another day
yeah but then you put
you put a bullet in your own head
and then you wake up with a finger inside of you
you know getting brain fingered like god damn it
can I please just die
at a long enough timeline we all get our fucking guts fingered like god damn it can I please just die at a long enough timeline we all get
our fucking guts fingered by
Dr. Bliss we all get brain fingered
which is the
name of my ska band
hey everybody
we're brain finger and
this is our fucking trumpet lineup
everybody just
fucking skate dancing around the
President Garfield as he's getting his guts
oh fuck
I'm gonna make the intro Mighty Mighty Boss Tones now
yes do it
it's gonna take
I don't even know how long
I really just want Nate to have to listen to a bunch of different
Boss Tones songs
it's gonna take over an hour for someone to figure out what this joke
means when they listen to the intro.
So by
this point, the president was starting to slip.
He was getting confused because his fever
was so bad.
Hopefully some of his
pain receptors had died at that point for his
own sake. But with
this came another problem. The president
was no longer eating his appetite was
becoming beginning to fail him after weeks of having his guts fisted by a doctor while his
flesh was reduced to frothing pus um like at this point he had lost nearly a hundred pounds um and
he was a big dude like he was in his mid 200 pounds pounds when he got shot. He was a solidly big boy.
Absolute dump truck ass
on President Garfield.
Dr. Bliss began to brainstorm ideas
to get the wounded president to eat.
Normally, I shouldn't have to say
this, but I do because I have to explain
why what's happening next is insane.
To eat, you put food in your mouth, and the only way food is ingested is via your stomach.
Now, this all sounds obvious, but this was also known medical knowledge of the day.
known medical knowledge of the day.
It was established
medical facts that you could
only eat through your
stomach.
I know
there's a low bar we're talking
about here and
Dr. Bliss did not cross that
bar. He decided to hit human
anatomy and biology with the Uno reverse
card and pump food directly up
the president's asshole.
Just butt-tugging cheeseburgers.
I got some good news.
I have the exact recipe.
Yes!
Yes!
Joe will be trying it now
no you know what if
the Patreon hits $10,000
a month I will butt chug this
mixture
because at that point I don't have
a job anymore so why not
so this
surprised everyone else
to include like all the other doctors now this the science
he was going on at the time a science that does not exist it was long since disproved
um and it was the idea that if he pumped food directly into his lower intestine his lower
intestine would then pull it into his stomach to be digested. That is not how the human body works.
Ah, the old reverse sphincter.
Many people forget about that.
And that is how we went ahead with
what I assume is the first and only presidential butt feeding.
I've been doing this show for almost three years.
I did not think I was ever going to type that sentence. And that goes for the rest of this episode.
So Garfield had, sorry, Dr. Bliss blended up meat,
beef extract, and blood for some reason.
And forced it through a tube up the president's asshole via a small hand-operated pump.
This is actually how Jordan Peterson is being kept alive right now.
I just imagined all those...
Oh, Michaela, please don't shove the tube up my ass anymore
Just imagine all those old cartoons
Where they've got the bellows from the
From the fireplace
The Boof and Bellows
Oh that's my ska band name
Is the Boofing Bellows oh that's my scob band name is the boofing bellows
uh so in case anybody was wondering what bliss's recipe for butt beef was i have it for you because
he wrote an entire pamphlet about this quote beef extract directions infused a third pound of fresh beef, finely minced, in 14 ounces of cold, soft water to which apply a few drops of muriatic acid and a little salt.
I assume for taste.
After digesting for an hour or a quarter of an hour,
strain it through a sieve and wash the residue with five ounces of cold water,
pressing it to remove all soluble matter.
This is applied in two ounce doses for every four hours.
So this is beef infused water.
Okay.
This is liquid beef it's the worst fango flavor on earth
just because someone is fucking i'm losing it man
oh we haven't gotten we haven't even gotten to discussing how it all comes back out man
i'm getting there i'm getting there this is actually this is actually the recipe that's
used to keep the royal family alive to this very day this is the peter theo method
uh just because somebody is eating via their asshole however it does not mean you can't have
the fine taste of the aristocracy.
So every couple of doses of butt food,
the doctor would drop it.
I shot up whiskey and some opium.
I've always wondered what I've always wondered what Huel was.
And now I think I know this whole thing is Huel.
Now, for people who are unaware
of how the human body works, and Francis
has already alluded to this,
this does not feed people.
And your body, now
pressurized with meat and blood from a
small hand-powered pump, being
powered by a man named Doctor,
will eventually eject whatever is
forced into your body. What goes up must come
down. Now that's actually
why he added the opium. It wasn't for the
anesthetic purposes. It was the hope
to relax the butt muscles.
I mean, but opiates
constipate you. Yeah, well
he was hoping it would fire back into his
face.
So like, if you've ever seen
Jackass when Johnny Knoxville got a colonic and water immediately
started shooting out of his ass when he was done so i guess what i'm saying is the president
violently shed meat and blood across the white house room he was being treated in do we know
what room this was like i would love for this to be the fucking like what became the oval office
i that would be amazing. Every hot day
it just kind of smells like raw beef and shit.
Ah, it's got the old Garfield aesthetic.
There's a certain stain on the floor
the first day that you're in office
you just are told not to ask about.
It's historical. We can't take it out.
It's historical, but we don't like to talk about it
now if you're thinking that dissuaded from dear dr dr bliss from continuing this treatment you would be wrong he did this over and over again in the screams of pain from the dying
president and the unbridled
horror of his family did nothing to
stop him.
I'm surprised nobody has shot this doctor
by now. No, I mean,
he's assuming as he's violently
butt vomiting out
all of this beef, he's like,
ah, he's keeping some of it. He looks
good. He's getting his
pallor back.
He's got blood you're thinking from just explosively just like shitting all over the fucking like all over the white house he'll shit out the bullet eventually
like meanwhile like whatever poor fucking dude who shot him in the first place is probably just
like look i didn't do anything nearly this fucking bad.
Okay, so no shit.
We'll talk about this guy's trial.
He kind of brings that
up.
So if this
wasn't all bad enough, while he was
butt-feeding the president,
he decided to cut into him again
in one last attempt to find
the bullet, which failed.
It is now September, several months after Garfield had been shot.
And somehow had he not died yet, but he's rapidly circling the drain due to all of this infection and butt feeding.
Probably.
I don't know.
Bliss, however, kill me just over and over again every fucking day.
For the love of God somebody shoot me
again
execute Charles Gouteau for
not shooting me in the head
bliss
however was optimistic telling
the president that he was out of the woods
and then
release this information
to the public saying that the president
was on the mend.
Thankfully, that would never happen again either.
This must have been a real shock to everyone involved when the president died 10 days later and Chester A. Arthur became president.
Come on, big money, no way, me, no way, me, no way, me, no way.
I imagine Chester A arthur's already been kind
of running things for the last couple of uh couple of months he has and when he learned
that the president died he was like oh finally it's over like he was like i can draw the big
paycheck for this like garfield and arthur were like good friends and co-workers which is like at the time not always the case between
president and vice president
but like he was
upset to hear him die but also
relieved that his suffering was over
because like well you can only think about the last
time that he went to go visit him was probably just
like you know just like Garfield
just like explosively shitting out of his
fucking ass and like
with like a fucking two foot long like fucking ass and like oh with like you know with like a
fucking two foot long like incision in his stomach like as you know his doctor doctor is like just
fisting his fucking liver just vigorously yeah um and like if you're gonna go visit the president
do it before lunch you do not want to have a working lunch with the president right now.
I'll have what he's having.
Like the president had actually held one government meeting during all of this.
And it was like the first week.
And I don't think Chester A.
Arthur saw him a single time after that, because like that room had to smell like fucking death.
Like carpet steamers hadn't been invented yet. Like Febreze is hundreds of years off.
Nobody's even.
Yeah.
Nobody's even thought of like the shitty college guy thing of like putting a dryer sheet over a fan when you're smoking weed yet.
They're just like pouring more opium over it.
Just like hoping that somehow like
anesthetizes it, makes it smell better.
Now,
Bliss conducted an autopsy
on the president and
concluded that the president died of blood poisoning
from the bullet. However, at this
point, nobody fucking believed him anymore.
A
second one, a second autopsy not done by bliss showed
that the president died from sepsis uh because yeah of course he died from fucking because of
all the sepsis that was on him he wouldn't have died if it wasn't for all this sepsis um who put
all this sepsis here oh what the where did you put this end president garfield rises from his bed and it's
just his skin full of writhing infection like something from fucking warhammer 40k it is like
i am president for life now and actually he legally changed his name to donald john trump
and he's just a walking sack of infection um now i had to get my shitty lib joke out of the way
because we've been cheerleading his death
for the last hour and a half.
Now,
not only did he die from sepsis, but
they found out that Bliss
was going in so blind when
he was fingering his wound
and his drive to find the bullet,
which he never found.
He created a completely
false wound track in multiple
different directions. At one
point, he fingered his insides
so hard, he ruptured
his bladder.
Which also probably
helped with all the sepsis.
And we already talked about why
the Alexander Graham Bell's invention did not work
um but yeah uh at that point bell was pissed off because like when this happened um bliss is being
very very very very public with everything so he's like alexander graham bell was useless to
me his invention was pointless so like bell was like fuck that i'm gonna prove him wrong and like
the his invention worked like all the time when used correctly um uh also after this bliss published
an entire pamphlet on forcing food up people's asses as a medical treatment it was considered
good and solid medicine until 1913 um though uh tests on it because like rectal hydration is a thing and so it like there
there is ways that you can put vitamins like desperately need vitamins and fluids rectally
on a patient but not food not not bone broth no no that's only if you do crossfit um so after this happened bliss like any other
good capitalist submitted his bill to the government to be paid for his treatment for
the president um the government was not enthusiastic about the medical treatment
given to the president um and by this point everybody's doing the gentlemanly thing and
kind of like keeping it on the down low, like,
well,
we'll not drag you in public, but like bliss wanted an exorbitant amount of money for his treatment.
Um,
so the,
the,
the government,
I'm cheap,
but motherfuckers like,
yeah,
I,
I spent all my own pocket money in beef.
Um,
do you have any idea how much beef I fit up?
President Garfield ass. Um, do you have any idea how much beef i fit up president garfield's ass
um so the government began to legally explore ways how to get away with not paying him at all
um sounds about right yeah which like in this point i'm kind of on the side of um the fight
with the government between government and and bliss went public and the government was very
open with how terrible they thought the medical treatment was
and Bliss's reputation was ruined.
To save what remained of his professional reputation,
he published a book titled
Excerpts from the Opinions of Distinguished Medical Men
in This and Other Countries Justifying the Treatment
of the Late President Garfield,
a title that truly rolls off the tongue.
This book was like the like the project veritas
of its day because he simply looked up quotes from other magazines of people talking about him
negatively and pulled out specific sentences that out of context looked like they were positive
and then he published it that's a hell of a move yeah i mean the man was just a poster and you have to respect
that and like argue like his argument was like yeah the president died but he was always gonna
die anyway so like whatever i did to him really didn't matter which is like a really weird argument
to have um and then he died penniless and and a couple of years, like about a decade later.
His assassin, though, Gouteau, went on trial in November of the same year.
And on his way to court, he dictated his entire autobiography to a local journalist and ended with a personal ad for a quote, a nice Christian girl under the age of 30.
He was in his 40s at the time um he was
uh apparently so out of it that he didn't realize the american public hated him despite someone
attempting to murder him in prison and then again attempting to murder him on his way to trial
um because like at the time murdering a president is very unpopular.
And the same reason why the
guy who killed JFK got murdered
too. It was considered
uncouth to shoot the most powerful man
in the world for some reason.
Now, this is one of the first times
in American history...
I mean... Now, this is one of the first times in American history. Now, there's a fucking line. I mean, well.
Now, shocks, our legal representative can maybe speak on this a little more, even though you're not a criminal defense attorney.
But this is one of the first times in American history that someone's defense was not guilty by reason of insanity.
someone's defense was not guilty by reason of insanity.
And for one of many of the first times in American history,
the court rejected it because justice sometimes just looks a lot like revenge.
Like Kuto was very obviously not well,
like he danced and sang as he went to the gallows and requested an
orchestra to play while he was executed.
Unfortunately that was turned down because that would be metal as fuck.
Well, I mean, was it...
What was the name of the guy who shot...
Oh, Hinckley.
The guy who shot Reagan?
Yeah, yeah.
Like, so, I mean, I can't speak...
Did it for Judy...
What the fuck was the actress's name?
Jodie Foster.
Jodie Foster, that's right.
Yeah.
Like, I can't speak
uh you know the garfield but i could say like 100 years later about uh when hinkley shot reagan
you know part of the reason why he actually recently got released from the uh the asylum
that he was put into afterwards yeah he gets supervised releases now yeah but but essentially
like uh they actually changed the um like the legal rules of evidence around medical testimony related to the state of mind of a defendant after he got off, literally just to make sure that no one could ever escape the death penalty again by doing what he did.
you know,
escape the death penalty again by doing what he did,
which all of which is to say that like,
you know,
you know, kind of changing the rules when it's the president,
who's the murder victim is like,
you know,
something that is a,
at this point,
like an American tradition with like a hundred year history.
Yeah.
Um,
but yeah,
he was executed by hanging on June 30th,
1882.
Uh,
they wanted to execute him before the one year anniversary of when he shot
the president and
like when he was on trial
he's one of his arguments
was I didn't kill the president I only
shot him the doctors killed him
that's like oh well done
you actually
pretty solid dunk and old
Dr. Bliss there
yeah so this episode Pretty solid dunk on old Dr. Bliss there. Yeah.
So this episode stretched on a really long time
because it's fucking outstanding.
But we do a thing on the show called Questions from the Legion.
And our question from the Legion today is
we almost universally cover awful things on this show.
Like we just talked about the gruesome death of an American president,
was boarded on torture.
Last time we talked about a war crime.
All of our episodes generally involve someone dying.
So our question from the Legion today is,
what is something good that is happening in your life right now?
Like give me a positive.
So did anybody want to take that one i gotta think
uh i mean i'm getting out of the army in in a month that's fun and i don't know like it's
i got a wife and a kid so it's not like super depressing for me i guess to be left inside
um shocks you got one oh fuck i don't fucking know last couple years have sucked even before
this and like uh i gotta admit 2020 kind of kicked my ass i'd say you know my my new job
that i have is pretty solid um you know i mean uh i you know i got i got to go with like sailing
a bunch of summer with my cousin and like you know his family and everything that was pretty good um you know you gotta you guys try to find like the little nice
things where you can um because like laura knows a lot of shit's really fucking difficult and it's
real hard to like stay positive right now i don't like fault anyone for it really which is like not
really like a i guess not really like a uh um a positive point
but more just you know it's fucking hard you know yeah it is uh shock's positive point is sometimes
it's okay to let the darkness take over yeah well i mean you know and i'd like i think that's part
of it though is you know like i think it's important to realize that like everyone's like
fucking struggling everything fucking sucks right now and that uh you know not to like turn this into too much of like an after you know after uh school tv special
but uh you know it's like it's okay to admit that like shit really fucking sucks and if you know
you need to like i mean i'll be honest with it i've been like investigating like you know like
counselors and therapists and shit just because you know like even before this you know like i had uh you know some bad stuff go on with my family and you know had uh no other different
reverses and it can be real fucking difficult to try and deal with all that shit and you shouldn't
have to do it alone yeah and it's a lot harder to deal with when we're all locked inside and like
i mean i'm on an island on the other side of the country from you guys so like i was never
going to be able to like chill out with you anytime soon but like you know we could all see
our friends and decompress or whatever and that's why like i guess my bright side is nothing to do
with anything in person because my fucking book outsold noam chomsky and that's rad as a motherfucker
now everybody has to send Joe emails
when they have dumb lefty questions.
And you're going to get a terrible response.
It's going to be just as bad as Numchonsky's responses.
I might just send you a picture of my feet.
This is going to be the currency after the world falls apart.
Only feet pics.
Hell yeah.
Finally, wiki feet will reign supreme.
So as always, you guys,
thanks for being on the show.
If you listen to this show,
you should be listening to
Hell of a Way to Die already.
But if you're not,
fucking listen to it.
And thanks guys for stopping by again.
Thank you for talking entirely too long with me about shoving food up another man's ass.
You know, there's only so many times in your life you can thank another grown man for that,
which is zero times.
Um, but today we got one.
Um, and, uh, until next time don't
shove beef up your
ass
don't do it
and if anyone on the discord wants to know I do have a
humorous story or two
about butt chugging so
if you
have me at some point I'll tell you my
funny stories about butt chugging
so yeah at shocks DM butt chugging so yeah at shocks dm butt chugging
and we we will talk to you guys next week