Lions Led By Donkeys Podcast - Episode 384 - The Texas Revolution: Part 2
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to the Lions and Buy Donkeys podcast. I'm Joe and with me is Tom and Nate. Things are getting
especially heated here at the Bucky's Revolutionary Council. Several men have hung a large banner reading
come and take it over the Mountain Dew display. Others are stabbing each other over the proper
amount of spice that goes into their no bean chili. While another man has crashed his lifted
horse wagon through the wall, it's truly the most beautiful republic on God's green earth. Fellas,
how are we doing?
You know, I realize that your friend,
you know, former platoon mate who had gotten
the lower back tattoo of Texas or whatever.
Yeah.
He should have gotten come and take it with a cannon over his ass.
Yeah.
It's just a canon that says come under it.
I mean,
in this analogy of like the lifted wagon,
we are once again,
you know,
within the Texas Houston rap scene of once again,
you are gripping wood.
Yeah.
Well, also like,
I don't know if you're familiar with this,
but with the Houston slabs
and like some of the stuff they do
with the neon lights inside the trunks
I've seen so many amazing things
where it's like you know
it'll be like neon art of cups of lean
and you'll say like this why you ho missing
or another one I saw was don't go broke
trying to catch up
like genuinely just unbelievable
I mean like it's a whole art
and it's like Roman chariot spikes the swang
as the great big spikes
that sum out from the rims
yeah like I said it's just it's a whole new thing
No, the whistle tip is a thing
in Oakland in the Bay
Fine.
These cause problems
and annoyance in a different way.
Instead of making noise,
imagine if you had spikes
coming out of the center
of your rims.
So like,
yeah,
people can't be basically doing
like gladded like
chariot combat on that ass.
Cut open a horse.
It's just nothing but
neon lights and like the glow
in the dark lean cup.
Like,
yo,
check out my busted ass horse.
No,
you got a series of candles
underneath the wagon.
Well,
I mean,
it also kind of comes
across the idea that like some of these things are just
even though we have modern reasons and
manifestations of them, they're actually eternally
occurring throughout the culture. And if you went back
to this day, like you said, guy would be gripping grain
on the old horse wagon, but he would have
the neon equivalent, I don't know, like candlelit
painting, like a canvas candlelit painting
back lit to make it glow. It's like
Black Bart Simpson with two muskets or something
like that. They're going to have me
turn back into the old me.
You got a whole bunch of like Texans
sitting around, sipping on Promethocene lace
chilly. Yeah, like I said, exactly. It's like a throwback fucking, you know, historical
retcon king of the trill. That's what we're talking about today. And I have to say this just
in case it comes across like, goofy white boy shit. This is from a position of nothing but love and
respect. I fucking love. Yeah, we're making fun of the Texans in this situation.
I love. I know, I don't want to live in. Houston has some things about it that I don't like,
like no zoning loss whatsoever. An 18 lane highway or whatever the fuck it is now. Yeah, yeah. As a
friend of mine said, it's like there's literally no reason why you can't have the street where there's
a daycare next to a strip club next to a chemical refinery. That's just Houston. And there's
no fucking sidewalks. Yeah, look, we live in a wonderful, wonderful timeline of the
continuous history of the Texas mud cop. Yep. Yeah. When we left you last time, the revolutionaries
of Texas fed up with the Mexican government trying to take away their slaves and make them pay taxes
rose up against the centralist government of Antonio Lopez de Santa Ana,
culminating in the Battle of Gonzalez,
a confused mess of a fight that resulted in that come-and-take-it flag
that every American knows due to it being like a literal modern-day bumper sticker-based red flag
for whoever is driving the truck that just cut you off in traffic.
Once word of the Texan victory gets out, both throughout Texas and the United States,
thousands of men run to join the fight.
We have to start this episode by going back just a little in time.
In mid-September, Santa Ana set a force of 500 men under the command of his brother-in-law,
General Martine Perfecto Koss, to land at Capano Bay.
From there, they were supposed to advance inland and expel illegal settlers back across the American border,
as well as disarmed the Texans.
The Battle of Gonzales really only sucked in the hardliners,
those settlers who are already joining militias against government orders,
the ones willing to square off with Mexican soldiers when they came to town to take a cannon,
even if that cannon happened to be government property.
Cause is about to do the one thing that no government wants to do during a revolution,
and that is motivate normal people to side with the revolutionaries.
As Koss and his mid-advance from Capano Bay,
they came across mostly peaceful settlers, but also towns populated by Tejanos.
According to the government, the Tejanos were now as much as settlers as the Texans were.
and soon orders went out that everyone had to hand over their guns.
Then, news of the Battle of Gonzalez got to them.
Texas and Tejano's got together in the town of Madagorda
and decided that the time had come to stand up a militia of volunteers
and elect their leadership.
Deciding on George Collingsworth from Mississippi as captain,
Dr. William Carleton as his second,
and C.D. Collingsworth, George's brother, as his third.
Together, the three men decide the best course of action
was not to wait for the Mexican forces to advance on their town,
but rather to strike out where they were stationed at Lobhia.
Though some of this had to do with something else.
For example, there was a very loud rumor that cause took with him
a stash of money worth about $50,000 back then in Mexican silver.
This wouldn't have been too unheard of,
as generals did often take money with them on the march so they could pay their soldiers.
So the battle plan boiled down to attacking Labia,
stealing the money, and kidnapping costs so they could then ransom him.
back for money to Santa Ana.
This volunteer force of only about
20 men set out the same night
and immediately they began bickering
with one another over the mission until another
vote was held. Dr. Carlton
was fired and CD Collingsworth
replaced him from third to second.
And another man, James Moore,
was promoted to third. They sent
word out to other settlements for reinforcements
which they got and included in this
was dozens of Vicaros or
Tejano Cowboys. We aren't entirely
sure how many men Collingsworth and
ended up recruiting because the man just did not bother to keep any paperwork.
But the generally accepted number is about 120.
Just to be clear here, these men were revolutionaries, but they were not, let's say, Texan
nationalists. Not yet, anyway. Instead, they all swore an oath to defend the Federal
Republic of Mexico and its constitution of 1824. But by the time the men had gathered,
Koss had left Labahia, and he got word of the Battle of Gonzales and quickly marched for
San Antonio, meaning their entire human bank robbery scheme had fallen through, though the garrison
itself was left pretty much empty, leaving only 50 men behind to guard it. So the volunteers
moved in anyway, maneuvering around the fort in the middle of the night, and they promptly got
lost and trapped in a mesquite thicket. But you know that lunch going to be fucking slapping
once they make those campfires. Yeah, I will say for like Iowa Station, Texas and had the
the joy of getting lost.
Well, not necessarily lost, but wandering
through a mesquite thick
while doing land navigation.
Shit is thick.
It's real, real unpleasant.
There's mesquite, if I'm not mistaken,
it's not really big trees, right?
It's kind of like bigger juniper trees, isn't it?
Like, it's kind of, or am I thinking something different?
It seems like a giant bush for those, uh,
yeah, yeah, because that's kind of how juniper trees kind of.
I mean, they're trees, but they're like,
what if bonsai trees got fucking zapped with a big,
like, honey I blew up the kid, Ray?
Yeah.
So I figured Mesquite was probably a similar thing.
Now what's weird is they were not the only person
trapped that specific Mesquite thicket.
Like some kind of RPG side quest giver,
they ran into a singular other man
who was just chilling in the thicket
named Benjamin Rush Millum.
He was out there trying to,
who's out there trying to invent barbecue?
He had to commune with the forest.
They were wondering through the thicket
just saw a guy sitting there
with an exclamation point above his head.
I feel like I need to talk to this man.
He's like the spirit of
the hills and the forest has told me that some important thing is going to be revealed to me
in this in this mesquite thick and I need to go there and just wait. And it's like, well,
yeah, because you got to smell it. And they'd be like, what if I burned this on some meat?
That's how Texan Christianity was created. Yeah, the burning bush. Then you fucking throw
in racks or ribs on top of that shit. Don't listen to the burning bush, just cook on that
motherfucker. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, burning bush, but that's just for getting the glaze to hard.
You actually have to cook that shit. You got to get a simmer it beforehand. You know, you got to do the
boiling, brazing, whatever.
Whole, yeah, wow.
We could really ruin this episode script and take it off track.
I started to go talk about fucking barbecue, so I'm just going to be quiet.
Millam was one of the very first Americans to ever settle in Texas back in 1819.
And when he moved there, he just kind of moved in with the local Comanchees who were just
like, all right, whatever, white boy.
It seems like an unending list of just crazy-ass white boys who end up with Native Americans.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, because one community was much more welcoming than the other.
Yeah, true.
Yeah, I mean, basically you could join the Comanche
like his, your family didn't like you having face piercings or something like that.
Sort of like 1800s goth kid and you're like these people.
It's like finding the kingdom of the bees from the end of that blind melon video.
But your dad is now magua from fucking last week.
I know I'm mixing it up.
I'm sorry.
I just much like Texas and, uh, you know, blind melon.
There's no rain.
There is no rain.
Feel free to boomie on that one.
Oh, before we go ahead, I was thinking about the last.
episode and I said the only good thing to come from Texas is Zizi Top. I need to correct myself
on that before we proceed any further. At the drive-in and butthole surfers are also from Texas.
They are. They absolutely are. Somehow I didn't know that at the drive-in was from Texas.
Yeah, El Paso. Yeah. I was also going to say, too, that a lot of good things come from
Texas. Begrudgingly, we must admit. Yeah. And also bringing it back to Blind Melon, I was going to
say, like Shannon Hoon from Blind Melon has really lived the Indiana dream of
becoming a rock star and dying from heroin at the same time.
I thought he died of cocaine.
Heroin.
Oh.
Yeah.
It was the 90s.
Yeah.
From living with the Comanchees, Milam joined a freebooter expedition, which failed,
landed him in prison for several years, and from there, he joined the Mexican army as a colonel under
Santa Ana.
And then Santana gutted the government.
He lost his job, and Milam joined several other Mexican federalists in the rebellion against him.
But his unit got smashed, leaving him one of the few.
few people left alive. And then he jumped on a horse and wrote about 400 goddamn miles
till they get stuck in that thicket. Jesus Christ. Upon seeing that the men in the thicket with it
were texting, he was like, yeah, all right, I'll join you guys too. And he went from Colonel to
private. Everyone is just like Santa Ana maxing at this time. He was like switching sides at every
possible turn. You taught me everything I know. I also just like the idea of this being like,
you know, it's like a weird mini-series kind of thing in an episode two. It's just like the entire
episode is confined to a fucking forest. And it's just constantly more people getting lost in
the forest and running into each other in the forest. And it's just really, that is actually
how like, you know, uh, 19th century military operations went quite often. It makes more sense
if it was a forest, but it's literally just a thicket. Everybody's just stuck in some small
bushes. Everyone, everyone's doing the military equivalent of cruising in Homestead Heath.
it's the military version of Hober Simpson backing into the bush
but as he backs in he runs into several Texans
yeah I was just thinking about this that it winds up becoming like a Samuel Beckett play
if more and more people trying to jam themselves into the bush
and pretend that they just walked into it by mistake somehow
the Texans demanded that La Bejia surrendered to which of course they refuse
so the next night the Texans snuck into the fort
hacked down the commander's door with an axe
and captured him without a fight only after the result
shouting match of him getting captured at gunpoint, did the other soldiers realize that
like, oh God, there's enemy in our fort, and began firing at the Texans. Though once the Texans
returned to fire and the Mexicans realized their commander was being held at axe point, they decided
to surrender. La Bejia and the nearby town of Goliad fell in about 20 minutes. This is obviously
a massive victory for the young rebellion, but in more than one way. La Bejia was between Koss's army
and Capano Bay, meaning not only they cut off his run of withdrawal, for those unaware,
again, Texas is bigger than you think it is, and Capano Bay was Koss's only way of resupply and
reinforcement. Unless, of course, he marched all the way out of Texas and into interior Mexico,
which would take days, if not weeks. Meanwhile, with the main political movers of Texas,
revolt was turning into war. A political body named the Sampfelis,
Committee for Public Safety was formed, and in case that name rings a bell, there is a French
revolutionary motivation behind it. It was chaired in the provisional Texan capital of San Felipe,
and Stephen Austin went before the committee and declared that they were clearly at war,
petting a now very well-known letter that called for the people of Texas to fight against,
quote, military despotism. The committee then circulated this letter as far and wide as they
could. It ended up being reprinted in like American newspapers and things like that.
Though if there was going to be a war, they would need an actual army and that army would need a
commander. Austin was probably the most well-known man in Texas because he's kind of Texas's
singular founding father at this point. And he was immediately selected to be the Texan army
commander despite having no real military experience to speak of. He dubbed this new army,
the Army of the People, and it numbered about 300 dudes. Texan's first target was clear.
Mexico had one large garrison in the area, and what you know it, they had kind of accidentally
cut it off from the sea, Koss at San Antonio and is now 650 men. However, San Antonio and the
men inside it were hardly prepared for open war. Life on the Mexican frontier, like we said,
was very hard for everyone, soldiers included. And it's why nobody wanted to move and work there.
Again, soldiers included. Your average Mexican soldier in Texas would do anything they could do
to get out of frontier duty. So border garrisons were normally badly understaffed and reinforced
with men given a choice, prison or Texas. Death or Texas. Yeah. The only thing that's certain
in life is death or Texas. This was something known by the government and the military.
These were the runoff of their army, I guess.
And they purposely left them chronically short of supplies of food, uniforms, even boots.
Sometimes they just didn't bother to pay them because they didn't want to be there.
The government hated them because most of them were convicts.
So fuck them.
As a result, their morale was about as bad as you could imagine.
Though I shouldn't point out the flaws of the Mexican army in Texas without also talking about the Texan army of the people.
For starters, it was an army in a.
name only. Most of these men in the ranks had no formal training, though there was a few
veterans from the War of 1812 kicking around, especially veterans of the Battle of New Orleans
due to, you know, most these guys being from the South. They had no logistical network, no
standardized recruitment pool or armament to the point they didn't even have canteens to carry
water, something that is very important in Texas of all places. Also, it's like anyone who's a
veteran of 1812, like, they're quite old. Yeah. Like, unless they were fighting like as a
a teenager. They're old
as shit. Yeah, especially for a
frontier life. Yeah. Instead, at this
point, your average Texan volunteer
carried water in a hollowed out
gourd. Yes.
We need to bring back, look at,
they had gourds, they weren't worrying about microplastics.
Yeah, I don't have pieces
of gourd in my ball sack, but I do have
microplastics. I'm sipping on my
chili out of my gourd. The chili
gourd. Hey man, you know what?
It's basically suck attach because it's like a
fucking squash aid. It's got chili in the side of you.
That's all good.
I was going to say, too, is that it's funny to me because the French word for, like,
a water bottle is an gourd, which I didn't know.
I would have said, Unvouté, but like, yeah, they always called a little plastic,
little sport bottles in Gould.
And I guess, like, having a gourd that you carry is just a thing that's just transcended,
you know?
They may have started it there, but it made it its way back with, like, the last dude to get
his ass booted the fuck out of Mexico back to France.
They brought the drinking gourd.
God damn it, Stephen, you're not supposed to eat the gourd.
Sipping chili out of my gourd.
Man, don't fucking say that.
People are going to start coming to live shows with, like, hauled out pumpkins full of
chili and shit. Do it. Bring me a
howlid out pumpkin to sigh. Yeah,
then I can eat a bit of it and do
the Texas limit break, aka shit
myself.
Some men volunteered
without even owning a gun, which I
know sounds shocking because we're talking about
Texans here. The ones that did
bring their own guns, obviously they don't have
enough gunpowder or shot
at home for an actual battle,
you know? So everybody's short of
everything. The men also had
zero discipline. The first order
that Austin passed that you're being elected
was a calm reminder for
the men to please obey the orders of their
elected officers. His second order
was to beg them to stop
indiscriminately firing their
weapons into the air, quite literally
going, yay!
So that's where that stereotype comes from.
Yeah, I like to,
you know, it's very on brand for a
quote unquote army of people who have been
banded together under the
auspices of, I'm not going to do
what you tell me to do. Exactly.
the third order was to demand that men stop drinking and coming to duty drunk
they're exactly the kinds of dudes you would expect would volunteer to settle in the
frontiers it is quite hard to do a drink check on a gourd you know everybody up at your
gourds this is like the soft plot plot plop of chili coming out got dominina widen my gourd
but that's why maybe that's why there's no beans in it because beans
would be quite hard to pour into a gourd.
Yeah, it's all just meat and spices.
Sipping on that Texas lean out of my gourd, baby.
I got one gourd shoved inside another and I'm double-cuffed up.
Another big-ass gorg has a funnel to pour it into the smaller gourd.
Whipp it around.
All my tricked out wagon drinking Texas mud cup chili out of my gourd.
I mean, I feel like they obviously, they had like metal smithing and casting at this point.
They probably could have made a metal funnel, but it is very funny to imagine like Texas Assembly
lied is just dudes walking, carrying
gourds, putting them under the metal funnel
like the chili truck with, yeah, the can
just painting. A spikin of chili. Yeah, exactly.
This is why you ho missing written on the side of it.
He's dumping chili. That's why your beans
missing. Hey, come fill up your chili gourd ah, the chili
hos. I really wish this episode
would come out before our live show. We could all just
bring howled out gourds on stage to drink
from. But if we did it now, we just
look insane people. Now, just
because Koss and his soldiers were only
slightly more soldiers than the Texans, it didn't mean that they were doing anything.
They had dug into San Antonio and reforced a position with about 20 cannons and trained
cavalry. A lot of the veterans on the Texan side knew this and warned Austin that our guys are
brave to a fault and they might be itching for a fight, but they are still quite literally
an untrained militia. If you want to fight and win, stay to the brush, stick to the ambushes,
you know, fight like the Cherokee do. Because like obviously the Mexicans have been able to defeat them.
Austin said, fuck that, and the army was marching towards San Antonio.
Though he did try to offset his lack of trained dragoons,
because like the Mexican army at this point is famed for their like Napoleonic tradition of dragoons.
Mostly because Santa Ana was obsessed with Napoleon.
He called himself the Napoleon of the West.
He made his uniform look Napoleon-esque things like he was obsessed with the guy.
Certainly nothing anybody in this podcast has ever done.
I mean, that implies that Santa Ana was also a feat guy then.
It can be assumed.
Yeah.
So he tried to offset this lack of dragoons by simply creating some.
To croons, just to bring it back to military history and not our riff on Napoleon,
dragoons, if I'm not mistaken, are kind of like a light cavalry, right?
Yeah, they're cavalry skirmishers, light armored, armed with lances or sabers.
And they typically like, they do cavalry stuff, like you said cavalry skirmishing,
but then also like part of being a dragoon is then dismounting and having dismounted fighting
as well. Yes. They carry carbines on them most of the time so they can dismount and fire in a skirmishing
line. But weirdly, the Mexican dragoons seem to be more used and a more correct term. You'd call them
Lancers. But Santa Ana always explicitly called them dragoons. Which is funny because dragoons sounds
badass, but like, you know, it starts being like, oh yeah, I know that job class from Final Fantasy
tactics, much like Onion Knight. But there was a military role. The Mexicans are going to hit them with
the dragoon jump.
Yeah, Santa Ana's formation just
disappears for one turn.
But it falls exactly where it jumped before.
So you just sidestep it slightly.
The Texans catching a flying dragoon spear
from the top of the head as they do a superhero landing.
You thought you were going to beat his ass, but oh, no,
Santa Ana changed his job class back to Squire.
He just keeps using yell on himself because that's what he loves doing.
And now he has 30 turns to every one of yours.
So he can literally defeat you by just slowly but surely
caressing your feet until you give up.
They're just giving me horrible flashbacks
of my time playing Final Fantasy
Tactics. Now, this unit was
nicknamed the Gonzales Lancers.
They were not Lancers.
They didn't even have lances.
The Gonzalez Lancers now sounds like a really
shitty high school fucking sports team.
It might be. Probably is.
Yeah. Takes one to no one. I was the fucking
Carmel Greyhound. So like, there you go.
I was the Corsairs.
Actually, all of my
schools from elementary to high school,
were named after pirates.
I was the El Dorado Dust Devils, New Mexico,
Clay Trojans, whatever, Clayton your high school,
and then the Carmel Greyhounds,
and then I don't know what IU Hoosiers.
Can you define what it is?
It's just, you know, inscrutable thing that just roams around.
I don't know.
So, mascots.
The Hoosiers are encrypted.
According to Francis, Hoosier is a slur in Mrs. Missouri
of being like a strike breaker.
Ah.
So, like, we call ourselves Hoosiers proudly.
And he's like, in Missouri, if you bear Hoosier,
that means you're a scab and you're a piece of shit.
I was like,
all right.
I mean,
if you're a clay Trojan,
does that mean like you're there?
He's like,
hold up,
babe.
I just need to stick my dick in the kiln for like 13 hours.
It's a literal dick helmet.
My university,
obviously famously Michigan State Spartans,
nothing problematic connected.
Anything bad ever happened there.
Nothing problematic connected to that name or university.
The Gonzales Lancers were just some guys on horseback.
And instead of lances,
they had cane poles that someone fastened sharpened files to the end.
So it's got a bit of sharpened metal wrapped around the end of these poles.
Just hold up a second.
Let me like scrape this against your face for 15 minutes.
We do your nails real quick, motherfucker.
The horses nor the men knew how to fight in this capacity.
Obviously, it takes a lot to train a horse to do things in a military manner
because no animal is just going to run headlog into combat.
against your anybody's survival instinct.
So, yeah, just some random dudes with fucking military prison shivs on horseback.
It's also very funny what you pointed that out because it's like, obviously, you know,
soldiers famously were not very smart either, but, you know, there's a better communication
and people get, get bullied and shamed into it.
It's like, I don't think you can really shame a horse.
You can scare a horse, but I don't think you can shame a horse.
I think we should try.
No, but a horse shamer is like a hundred percent a job that would have existed after.
this point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, exactly.
Just love the idea.
The person comes around and be like, yeah.
Your hooves look fucked up.
One of those!
You just don't look at those long ass teeth, freak.
Nice fucking weird tail that you just used to scare flies around with, you weird fucker.
I don't know how to shame a horse.
We could do eat hay, you bitch.
I was going to, I'm not going to make Joe uncomfortable with this, but there's this,
There's an excerpt of Rinaldo Aranus' memoir before Night Falls that if you read it, you'll
know exactly what I'm talking about, about shaming a horse, or rather a shameless horse,
a ways in which horses, and it's not to do with Mr. Hans shit or whatever. It's subtler than
that. But I feel like we were already done too much with turning Joe into the world's most
aware of gay things, non- Your baby mama having foals with someone else.
Rinaldo Aranus describes riding home on a horse with his mom and it was a female horse
and then like an unharnessed male horse came up
and the female horse they were riding on basically
like kicked and winning and forced them off
and wouldn't let them stay on because she's like, no, I need to get
fucked by this male horse. And he's like, both me and my
mom are like, oh, I really want to get dicked out like that too.
I mean, so it's just...
Yeah, that might...
That he would have been like 13. So it's like, it's a deeply horny book.
It's weird, but they made a...
Julian Schnabel made a movie out of it, so...
So I know about it.
I feel like that says something that shames the horse
as much as shames the riders for the horse
not wanting to fuck them.
Like, what, I'm not good enough?
It's horse cook holding.
Yeah, I got horse cucks.
Oh my God, you're right, man.
But then the horse is also the cuck stool.
Yeah.
This is like that tweet I saw the other day just do horses know their vehicles?
The Army's march towards San Antonio was pretty uneventful,
other than running into a Mexican scouting party who broke contact and ran back to the garrison.
Now, the Texans took this as a victory, other than, you know, scouts did.
doing their job. And when Austin got a good look at San Antonio's defenses for the first time,
he saw he might be kind of fought. Not only because the cannons, but because he had found he
was also outnumbered two to one. Now, there were a few bright spots. For one, more Mexican
military commanders were rising up against Santa Ana. And a lot of the nearby Tejanos were pretty
sick of cost at his soldiers. So Juan Sagine was charged with trying to recruit as many of them as
he could. And he did. He recruited a ton of Tejanos, a lot of Vicaros. And this pretty much
save the Texan army. Because Austin realized an assault was impossible, they would stead need to
besiege costs. It meant that he would be tied down without any logistical system to support his
siege. The Vicaros turned into that support system that Austin had not even thought of. They ran
foraging missions for the Texans so they didn't starve. They acted as something of like a pony
express so the various parts the Texan rebellion could communicate. And they became guides so random
settlers didn't get lost and die on the frontier while trying to make the way to the army.
Another important thing that Austin realizes, he didn't really know the defensive layout
of San Antonio. As was normal for a former Spanish colony, there's a lot of missions that had
been built around the town. Think of forts. Like the Alamo. The Alamo is a mission. They're
like, their forts built to ward off native attack. Don't think of them as castles or anything like
that. So Austin needed to find out just how many of them are still being manned by Mexican forces.
To do that, he put together a column of 90 mid commanded by a guy.
I think a lot of people listening that know at least something about the Texas Revolution were waiting for me to introduce.
James Bowie.
You might know him better as the guy who has a knife named after him.
Okay.
Yeah.
Booy knife and all that.
Yep.
Famed American frontiersmen.
And by that I mean an unhinged insane serial killer of the American native population.
He's probably best known for two things.
The massive knife he carried on him at all times.
which, of course, is named the Bowie Knife and was pretty much the size of machete and
his eventual death, which we will get to.
Okay.
He was also a crippling alcoholic who need to be slightly soft at all times, unless he
start getting the shakes.
I mean, I feel like that's just part and parcel of being alive at this time.
He was such an alcoholic that other people involved on the frontier remarked on it.
That's how much of a booze hound.
Oh, it's like being known for being a racist in the antebellum south, basically.
Yeah.
He went to above and beyond the call of duty of being a frontier alcoholic.
And with him was James Fanon, one of the only men of professional military training and education,
even if that happened to only be two years at West Point before he dropped out and became a slave trader.
Heroes of the Revolution, one at all.
Well, that's the thing, right?
You didn't have to be an LLC Twitter bullshit back in these days.
If you wanted to just be a complete fucking asshole, there were so many different jobs available to you.
I mean, it was horrible.
I'm not saying it's funny or good.
I'm just saying like, when you think about it's like, oh, what are you going to do?
Well, actually, school isn't really working out for me.
So instead of it's like, oh, I'm going to go work on the oil patch or I'm going to join the military.
I'm going to fucking go to trade school.
It's like, no, I think I'm going to abduct people.
I think I'm going to go become the president of Nicaragua, like just fucking whatever.
Become a snake oil salesman.
I'm going to die of putting mercury in one of my orifices.
I'm going to form a breakaway state in the middle of the Mexican desert.
I've got to discover alchemy.
again. Lots of people
said they couldn't fix it, but I can.
I'm different. Yeah, I understand the law of
equivalent exchange after what happened to my
brother and I.
Jesus Christ.
Buies column marched for
Mission Concepcion, with the
clear orders not to go that
far, only to get a good
look at Mexican positions and to turn
around and come back once they did.
Alston was worried that if they were gone
longer, the larger Mexican force
would catch that the smaller Texan force,
had split and corner one half of it and destroy them.
Bowie immediately ignored these orders and has men camp out overnight.
Koss alerted to Bowie's column thanks to a nearby priest slash spy
and had a force of 400 soldiers, 300 of whom were mounted and 100 of whom were infantry,
to ride out that morning and attack them.
Bowie, despite probably being off his face drunk, had seen this as a possibility.
So not only did he set guards ahead of the main force,
but he set his men around a bend of a nearby river
in something that resembled a V shape.
Bowie knew an L shape would probably be better
to catch a larger force in something that Nate and I
could attest to vividly.
We're talking about some L-shaped ambushes?
Yeah, but he was worried
that his idiot-ass untrained soldiers
would shoot one another at a crossfire,
which, to be honest here,
we've been doing the show for nearly a decade.
This might be one of the smartest things,
but simultaneously most simple things
we've ever talked about an officer doing.
Most of the time on this show,
and we talk about a battle like this,
and the officer lines his men up
in a way that's the most tactically proficient,
but are shocked to find them shooting at each other
because they know so little about their own men's capabilities.
Bowie knew his own men and knew they did not know what they were doing.
So really, really quickly,
I promise this will not take more than a minute, Joe,
just so people understand.
The biggest thing is, like Joe's pointed out,
doing ambushes,
is to put things where when everyone is shooting
and they're going pointing their weapons
in the right direction and not at each other. When you're like, oh,
what if we shot from both sides? Like, no, you'll just shoot
each other because that's how bullets work. We just talked about
that in the different battle of the
broken British square of them all
just gutting each other down at Boy Blake Rage.
Literally, like, in the doctrinal way that we were taught, obviously this was
different back then, but like this lines up with a lot of stuff
because so much the tactics in small unit things in the U.S.
military are based on shit that they started doing like the
fucking the 1700s and like the
seven years war. It's literally just
what is the thing that we used to initiate it?
What are the left and the furthest extent on either side of the ambush?
And then what are you going to do afterwards and then everyone gets out?
And it's like, it's so crazy when you hear this, like, wow,
this sounds like mega ultra-tactical stuff or like super contemporary stuff.
And it's like, well, no, if you paid attention to like,
how do I avoid getting shot by my own guys and having my own guys shoot each other,
it makes sense to do it this way.
As sick as it would fucking be to double-pinser flanking maneuvers and shit, it's like,
that doesn't even work now when we've got GPS and night vision.
Like, what do you think it was like back in these when no one could read
and everyone was drunk.
Yeah.
Meanwhile,
like you got fucking booey,
like swaying back and forth,
one hand out of a nondescript brown jug
that just says X, X, X, X, X on it.
And the other hand out of a shock is like,
I got a fucking idea.
Don't move until you hear my mark.
Yeah.
Well,
at least we always know where the casualty collection point is going to be.
He also places him in elevated positions on a downward slope
covered by trees,
which meant they could rise up.
up, fire, take cover in the trees, and the Mexican cavalry would not be able to maneuver into
them. I'm going to say one thing too. I don't know a ton about Jim Bowie, but I will say this.
This does strike me as somebody who has managed to be like, oh, here is how you not get killed
by Native Americans, because this is 100% the shit. They knew very, very well.
Bowie's only military experience up until the revolution was being a quote unquote Indian fighter,
which was a term used for men who killed a lot of native people.
a lot of whom were unarmed women and children, Jim Bowie, famous for doing this,
which probably is why he drank so much.
But also when you were actually fighting against Braves and fighters from,
there were certain things where the cost of you performing badly was get buried up to your neck in ants
and or have your dick turned into a polygon sculpture.
So, like, there is an incentive to get good at your job.
He probably learned this from fighting natives because the natives famously fought an ambushes.
And he's like, I should learn how to do that before I die.
Yeah, I was going to say, it's exactly what I was thinking.
When you described that, I'm like, oh, wait, you picked terrain so they actually were like,
they were in defilade, could then pop up and fire and get down and not like that.
That sounds exactly like, oh, if only we had known to use the terrain after this dude,
a guy with a fucking hatchet cut everyone's scalp off.
Like, it's just the nature of it.
It's often put as like, oh, the Texans knew how to do this because they're fighting in
their own backyard.
That's not true.
Jim Bowie had not been in Texas for more than.
of like six months.
Like Sam Houston just showed up.
The vast majority of dudes in Texas right now as a population had been there
less than two years.
But it's also very funny that they're like,
this guy who's like this outside fucking counterinsurgency expert,
you know,
like fucking tracker scout sniper dude shows up.
And he's like,
y'all want to drop some knowledge on you guys.
If you stand behind a tree,
they can't see you.
I was like, look, look,
I learned a lot of,
you know, great tactics from my time with the,
you know,
Native Americans, but the greatest tactic I learned was from a baby playing peekaboo.
Many people don't know.
Let me show you.
He has like all of the volunteers gather out of him.
He's like, peekaboo.
Famously, object permanence was only developed for soldiers in 1914.
Yeah, exactly.
That cover turned out to be the most important part of Bowie's battle plan because by 8 a.m.,
the Mexican forces marched in and began shelling the piss out of them with cannon fire.
According to one Texan veteran, because they were taking cover behind pecan trees, each time a Mexican cannibal went flying at them, harmlessly crashing amongst the bushes and whatever, it rained pecan nuts directly onto their heads, which was great because none of them had eaten anything recently. So they just began squirrel maxing.
Yeah, I would assume all these guys are like wearing quite ostentatious hats for the time. So it's just like collecting in the brim.
One time when I was doing field trading at Fort Lewis in the summertime,
we stopped at a short halt.
And I took a knee pulling security.
There was a raspberry push right next to me.
I was like, just reaching a,
holding the M4 with one hand.
And it was just like,
everybody turns into a goblet at some point.
I know.
And what you've just described is like,
yeah,
there's raining plenty.
All you got to do is like,
okay,
can we have them fire a couple of candid shots at the peanut butter
Eminem's tree as well.
The Mexicans are shelling them, but the whole time the Texans are, they're just catching
handfuls of pecans and putting them in all of their fucking old worn out pockets.
One guy's like, oh, fuck, why did I have to pull security under the charms tree?
I'm not allowed to eat these.
Tom, you don't get it.
There were these shitty fake, like hard candies that you would get in MRIs.
They were called charms.
And it was like a folk legend thing with us in the army.
Like, if you opened them up, you were cursing your unit.
And like, if you were in the field, you'd get rained on.
so they weren't allowed to open them ever.
If you ate charms on any tank I had ever been on,
you'd get slapped around for it.
There's a lot of weaknesses in the Texan army
owing it to being a collection of frontier randos,
but they did have a specific strength, marksmanship.
Texans were not armed with the standard brown best musket,
like the Mexican soldiers were,
and said they brought their own weapons.
Many of them were Kentucky long rifles,
probably the best rifle in the West at the time.
And they began picking off Mexican artillerymen manning the two cannons.
Consider this a retinette counter battery, if you will.
And each time a new soldier ran for to man the cannon,
that got their skulls blown apart and just heard a chorus of,
Yee-ha!
The accurate long-range gunfire was enough to force Mexican soldiers to open fire
from equally far distance with their muskets,
which was far beyond their effective range.
So for people who are not gunheads, like none of us here are gun people, but a musket is a smoothbore weapon, right, that has no spiral within the barrel to give it a twist that makes the bullet fly further, so to speak, make a very long story short.
While a rifle does, so a rifle's range can be sometimes two times that of a musket. And so the Mexicans open fire with their brown best muskets from as far away as the rifles are firing. And the Texans, multiple Texans volunteers,
right about feeling a doll slap against their body and looking down and just see they've been
hit by a musket ball. It wasn't a musket ball or like a pecan. Yeah. Like the musket balls hit
them with the power to only bruise them at that distance. Yeah. I mean, it's the thing is that with
also with rifled barrels, hence the term rifle rounds fired through rifled barrels. Also,
not just the distance, but like they're more accurate at closer distances too. Like far more
accurate. Muskets are basically like the principle of the potato gun that it's probably going to go
kind of in the direction that you point it, but there's no guarantees of it being pinpoint.
Like, obviously, nothing's perfect, but yeah, rifles are far more accurate.
Which is why, like, a tactic for a musket-based military was a full volley in the general direction.
So, like, also it's firing out that black powder is basically like obscuration on your position at the same time.
Well, it's not like the rifles had smokeless powder either.
No, I know, but.
Yeah, they were, it was much more likely for every time a Kentucky long rifle fired to drop a dude.
I did find one very funny passage from a Texan volunteer that rose up on the other side of the hill to fire.
I got smacked right in the balls with a musket ball.
It didn't blow his dick and balls off for anything, but he was counted as wounded because he couldn't fight anymore.
Ow, my balls!
Fighting for Texas, they blew apart my ball sack.
Like, jib, he's just there like, what's going on?
I got my dick in a literal sling afterwards.
so I can heal.
Just imagining, yeah,
early 19th century
fucking dick sling
what that's going to look like.
A buoy ordered a detachment
to reinforce them,
but to remain behind the riverbank
so as not to expose themselves
to Mexican gunfire.
However, Texans, you know,
if you haven't picked up yet,
they really like to ignore orders
that require them to stay away from fighting.
So as one Texan unit
ran to reinforce the sense,
center because the Mexican forces trained very classical line fighting, which means firing a couple
volleys and then charging to break the center, right? Simple enough. They start charging.
Bowie has to order a unit to support the center. One guy decides, well, it's a lot faster if I just
cross the top of the hill and run directly there. So there's this thing called silhouetting, which happens
when you stand up with no background on a, say, a defensive parapet to gunfire, which means you
stick out more than any human being
known to man. You're the human
equivalent of having a glowing red box behind
you like a boss fight. And one
Texan does this. And every
Mexican soldier on
the battlefield immediately pivots and
shoots at him.
Shooting him like dozens of times.
He's the only Texan killed
during the battle. Get my dick blown
off by a Mexican called out of blunderbill see.
Shut the
fuck up. Now I bet
you're probably thinking that once the Mexicans
close the gap with the Texans, their advantage would switch.
Remember, these are Kentucky long rifles.
They're for hunting.
You can't mount a bayonet on them.
Then they're going to lose because they have no hand-to-hand combat training.
But not every Texan had a Kentucky rifle.
In fact, there's probably less than half.
The other half were armed with shotguns and whole bandaliers full of pistols.
Like fucking Yosemite San.
Meaning as soon as the Mexican forces charged through a hail of shotgun
pellets and then like several
yehaws worth of wild pistol fire
they broke and ran
like fuck this Jesus
yeah it's just like guys pulling out
like the entire armament of fucking Captain
Jack Sparrow heaters and pointing
to people just like a weird bent out of
shape kind of guns fucked up guns guns
guns with like you know bedazzled
parrots carved into them or whatever like it's
just you don't want that
shot center mask hold out of a dead man's chest
just
Tom's just dropping, he's like the fourth, what, the fifth recording in two days.
So Tom's just decided he's going to drop bars the entire time.
Yeah.
Finally, the Mexicans began to flee and then the Texans countercharged.
And when the Mexicans broke from the battlefield, they left behind one of their cannons,
which the Texans then stole, spun around and began lighting them up with canister fire into their backs.
Casualty rates here are all over the place, but it's thought that up to 70 Mexicans were killed in the fighting while one single Texan were killed.
Seeing such a crushing victory, Austin was convinced that they should immediately go on the attack directly into San Antonio.
He went as so far as to order it, but then his subordinate commander just like, no, that's stupid.
We're not doing that.
As Texans scavenged amongst the Mexican dead, they found another good reason as to why they won that day and probably a better reason as to why musket balls are slapping against them like paintballs.
The quality of the gunpowder that the Mexican soldiers had been issued was so bad that Texans compared it to
quote, crushed charcoal.
And despite burning through most of their powder in the battle,
Bowie and his men refused to resupply off the dead men,
worried that the shitty powder would ruin their guns.
And they didn't even take the Mexican guns who dropped them.
They just like piled them all up.
I always think sucked.
While the siege of San Antonio wore on,
Texas advances continued in other places.
A detachment of volunteers left Goliad to take out a nearby Mexican fort at San Patricio,
and just so happened to rock up to its gates
small its 20 man garrison was actually out on patrol the nearby town so they just like walked in
and squatted then the patrol returned the two sides shocked and surprised fired wildly at one another
until the mexicans decided fuck this and surrendered though weirdly enough inside that fort
the texans found the former mexican governor of texas vieska he had been in prison there this
whole time and he was like oh thank god you guys have liberated me i can go back to being
governor of Texas.
They all just kind of laughed at it.
And we're like, no, homie.
That ship has sailed.
The shit's changed.
Situation's been updated, bro.
We're under new management.
That's where you're wrong, pal.
This led to a huge blow-up between Texans and Thayanos in the area around Goliad.
Remember, the Texans were not fighting for a Republic of Texas, at least not yet.
Their entire thing was to be fighting for a federalist uprising against the centralist,
for now, Santa Ana.
Viesca was the federalist governor and Athanaoano, who's,
brother was the previous governor of Texas. It's safe to say that the non-Texan population,
the Tejanoes, really liked him. So when the commander of Goliad, Philip Dimmit, refused
to acknowledge as authority, something of a Goliad civil war erupted between the Texans and
the Tejanos. They began ambushing one another, and many regional Tejano decided, fuck this and
threw their lot in with Santa Ana, after having their governor rejected. If that wasn't enough to push them
in that direction, then Dimmett's burning and looting of Tejano villages was probably a good reason.
Small side note here, but eventually Austin heard what Dimmett did and fired him immediately
and then invited Viesco back to the consultation, which had been postponed until November,
due to so many delegates volunteering for the army that they couldn't have a vote.
Viesco did turn up, and then Austin and the Committee of Public Safety refused again to recognize him as governor.
Meanwhile, with the siege, Austin demanded cause surrender in a letter, which caused returned without opening,
with a little note on top saying it would be against his honor to take a letter from a rebel commander.
Austin had reinforcements coming, including an 18-pounder cannon that had been captured somewhere else in Texas,
that maybe was strong enough to breach San Antonio's walls.
But he was worried about the siege, nonetheless.
The stress of keeping an army in the field was a lot to ask of people who were not really soldiers.
especially as the weather began to get colder and rations began to get smaller.
Texans came and went out of the army at will,
and Austin was worried that he wasn't going to be able to keep his army together
as long as it would take four reinforcements to get there,
and then again, after that, long enough to take San Antonio via siege.
Then things began to get a little weird.
Austin, the elected commander of the people's army,
didn't really seem like he could hold the weight of the position.
He kept putting the conduct of the siege to a vote with his subordinates,
which is not something he needed to do.
And to other officers,
it read to them as he was being
indecisive or maybe even cowardly.
Men began to get restless
and getting blind, drunk,
and again, firing their weapons
at random intervals.
Officers started doubting Austin as a commander.
Bowie simply resigned and wandered away,
as did others,
while still other officers didn't resign
and just went home.
Other officers like William Travis
just kind of ignored orders
and did whatever they wanted,
all while the siege devolved into
random firefights between different patrols in the night.
Desertion became such a problem that Austin tried to mandate
morning and evening roll calls, but people just ignored them.
According to the Texian Iliad, by November 5th, all discipline broke down
inside of the various volunteer units to the point that nobody was even sure of who
was in charge of them anymore, and one man remarked, quote,
no good will be achieved by this army except by the merest accident under heaven.
but one bright side was beginning to emerge for the Texans
two months into the war
the American volunteers were beginning to trickle over the border
real reinforcements
with a lot of money and a lot of guns
however the Americans had no fucking idea
what was going on in Texas
they had no understanding of let's say the Texan
context here they rated communities
without caring or knowing who live there
including Texans Tejanos and Mexicans
It's like, oh, thank God, the Americans are here
just like gets shot in their shoulder.
Like, oh, fuck.
They're going to take my gourd.
Some of these volunteers had organized themselves into paramilitary units
with adequate supplies, actual uniforms,
and even experienced commanders,
but probably the most well-known of these,
is the New Orleans Graze.
They were formed in New Orleans coffee shop
and bankrolled by a German-born businessman named Adolphus Stern.
Stern even managed to purchase a cannon
and send it with them in
because America was really cool back then
I'm going down to the hardware store
I'm going to get me a cannon
they're like this is
from now on for time in memorial
we're who they're going to think of
when you talk about the Stern gang
just this guy showing up
like the white version of Barrett
from Final Fantasy
the canon fused to his arm
however there's a small problem
when it came to the canon
they dragged it all the way to Texas
and then only they'd realize like,
oh shit, we forgot to pack ammo.
So they just like left it in a ditch.
Tom, I'm,
for the listener,
I'm not very well right now.
I've got infinity toddler diseases.
And Tom just basically made me think of
Cush got me feeling like the white Barrett.
It's just like,
I'm just going to be spun up on that forever now.
Another bright spot on the organizational front
was the fact that so many men had left the army
that the consultation could officially take place.
And the committee quickly went to work
trying to draw some very confusing outlines
for the rebellion. They made
their provisional government official, but
as the provisional government of the
Mexican state of Texas, within their
envisioned federal Mexico. This is
obviously to try to smooth things over with the
Tejano population, but also
a clear sign they didn't care that much
because they elected a new governor,
Henry Smith, who is an avowed
slave voter, racist, and
Texan nationalists, who
vocally said that Tejanoes have
no place in Texas. So,
No, nothing has changed.
Nope!
Austin finally resigned or was fired,
depending on which story you believe,
as commander of the Texan army,
and was given the assignment of effectively becoming
the Texan ambassador to the United States.
Smith then appointed Sam Houston to replace him,
and for a lot of people,
this would be the first time meeting Sam Houston,
who did not cut an impressive figure.
As we already established,
Houston had one hell of a track record in American policy,
But since he left the U.S., he had dove head first into a bottle, and by all accounts looked like he lived exclusively out of a dumpster.
He smelled so bad and looked so greasy that every single person in the Texas government remarked on it in their memoirs.
According to some people, Houston spent most of his time at the consultation getting hammered with his close personal friend, Jim Bowie, who had staggered back into town after residing outside of San Antonio.
Two guys you hate to see together.
What's funny is, politically, they would hate one another.
Jim Bowie has never seen a Native American he didn't want to kill,
while Sam Houston pretty much ruined his political career attempting to defend them.
Politics makes strange bedfellows, but apparently the 19th century makes even stranger bedfellows.
And in this case, literal bedfellows.
Did we finally turn, Joe?
Houston may have looked and smelled like a trash monster,
but he fully understood the weakness of the movement.
He and others in government point out that they needed an actual army, organized on standard lines,
rather than a gaggle of volunteers who could leave whenever they wanted.
So they came up with an idea of a contracted professional army, supported by volunteers.
Some men would serve for two years, while others would volunteer on a rotating basis until the end of the war.
Since Texas was virtually broke at this point, they couldn't pay them, so they would be paid in land grants rather than money.
Though this would all take time to build, and spoiler alert here, this army would never actually be made at all.
But it was an idea.
Austin was still sitting outside of San Antonio
and was determined to end the siege
before Houston came to replace him
in order to save some face.
Mexican deserters told him
that life inside San Antonio is getting pretty fucking bleak,
giving Austin hope that he had a chance
to close out the deal.
So he wheeled his cannons into position
and had his artillerymen go to work.
Small problem though.
They don't actually have any artillerymen.
They just had some guys.
They had no trained artillerymen in the ranks.
They were just kind of guessing as they opened fire.
It's really funny because it's like so many times people doing like, you know, demonstration days accidentally pull on the fucking lanyard and fire. Hopefully not a real live round, you know, blank rounds, whatever. But it's like when you actually want to fuck around and find out how to shoot a cannon, you can never do it. It always requires at least one person who knows how to do it.
Yep. Yep. Nowadays, you just watch a, you know, YouTube.
Like have a guy bring a crate of degaratite plates with a dude like explaining how to fuck DIY camera fire.
Just show up like yield YouTuber and like, and today we're going to show you how to use.
the field how it's sir.
Yeah, exactly.
He just basically what he sets up like an organ grinder thing
with like a frame so it looks like you're watching a moving picture
and he just sort of like gestures around.
It's like basically a moving puppet show.
And one of the puppets is doing the Mr.
Beast face while pointing back at the canon.
Yeah,
but the problem with doing that is when the canon gets to the point where the
canon actually fires,
everyone will freak out because I think it's real.
What would Mr. Beast?
They've been like Jebediah Beast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Monson,
your creature.
But also that kind of implies it like in order
to promote their educational entertainment and they have to drive with a wagon with painted canvas
on the side of the guy doing the Uber driver sucked me off. Well, there was that guy in the last
episode, they've old paint. So maybe that's how he got his name. Yeah, but there was also
the guy. What was it like Lancelot Smithers? Yeah, Dr. Lancelot Smith. Dr. Lancelots. He didn't
go to four years of Lancelot school to be called Mr. Yeah, Lancel is on our 30 and night who's really
deeply closeted at a
30 a night who would afford in time
so he could live out his dreams of being a Texan
slave owner. Now, men were literally
betting with one another over who could
hit what and bartering with musket balls
because they had no money. According to
Austin, none of them had a fucking thing.
But he ordered is meant to ready themselves
for an attack anyway. But the men
still refused. It was clear
that if the siege was going to continue,
even just long enough for Houston and his new
regular army to march in, Austin was going
to have to give up command because everybody had
lost faith in him. So he did, and the men elected Colonel Edward Burleson to replace him.
He had served as a captain during the war of AT-12, but had seen very little combat, and was only
elevated to the rank of colonel in Texas, owing to the fact that that limited amount of service
was still more than most. Then Bowie, dead drunk, showed back up at the siege to take command
of his detachment, something nobody opposed. Burleson at the time was in communication with
Houston, and the two men were slowly coming to the realization that abandoning the siege and were to
saved the volunteer army from imploding. It was probably the better idea. That was when
scouts reported that Mexican reinforcement columns marching towards the city. Now, this is another
game of telephone here. There was about a hundred or so dragoons. The men heard that. Then the
rumor mill began to go into overdrive. Soon the hundred dragoons were actually accompanied by a
mule train of a hundred mules. And it did have a mule train, but it wasn't that large. But rather
than carrying supplies for the San Antonio Garrison, which probably was, the men began to talk as
carrying a stash of silver to pay them in inside.
It's starting to be like some Pirates gold shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It feels like this is just the thing that goes through history.
It's like dudes just start telling stories and then people think they're real.
And that's why we have Turning Point USA.
Had.
Well, had.
Yeah.
Turning point did happen in the USA yesterday.
Yeah.
Well, I will say that this story about silver being in this mule train has more holes in
than Charlie Kirk
We made it two episodes
We did so well
Yeah, we're recording on
the greatest of American days
9-11 and Charlie Kirk is dead
Yep
Burleson ordered Bowie and his men
to scat out the column to see what they were doing
whether they were preparing to head towards town
or preparing to attack the Texans
Above all else, Bowie was ordered
not to attack the column
He was a scout, due a scouting mission.
But that did not matter.
Once the volunteers saw Bowie and his men riding out,
they assumed they were going to attack against that column full of silver.
And if they didn't go with them, they'd miss that on the booty.
So, fuck it.
And everybody started chasing after Bowie.
Then Bowie also ignored orders and immediately ordered a charge on the column.
As they were butchering one another,
costs from inside San Antonio saw what was happening
and ordered his infantry to move into reinforce the dragoons.
Bowie ordered his men to fall back to a dry creek bed, and once anchored in there, the Mexicans
counterattacked, but again, the long range of the Texan rifles broke up the attack, and eventually
they fell back into San Antonio. That left the mule train. The Texans fell onto it, ripping
all the crates apart, expecting to find sweet, sweet loot, but instead found that the wagons
were just full of grass for the Mexican horses, leading to the Texans to jokingly refer to
the battle as the grass fight. The siege would drag on until December, and another refusal
by the officers in command to attack San Antonio when it was proposed by Burleson. This time
the men damn near mutinied. They demanded an attack. Others said that if they weren't going
to attack, they would simply go towards Matamoros in Mexico and attack there. Still others,
several hundred said fuck this and went home. So after seven weeks, Burleson ordered that
the volunteers would return to Goliad and camp for the winter. The siege,
would end. That was until our favorite thicket monster Ben Millam reappeared from a scouting mission.
Despite Burleson's orders, Millim told everybody, no, we're not doing that. We got to keep the siege
up. Burleson contested that he was in command and Millim said he didn't care. He would take
volunteers himself and assault San Antonio. Burleson, feeling he was about to lose all control,
caved and said, Millim could recruit enough volunteers. He would keep the rest of the army back here
to cover him should shit go sideways.
300 men, more than half of the army,
volunteered to go with Millam.
He organizes force into two columns
and enlisted the help of three guys,
Eurastis Smith, who, due to him being deaf,
had earned the very creative nickname,
Death, and his son-in-law,
Hendrik Arnold, who was actually a freed slave.
And another guy, Jesus Queller,
a former Mexican army officer turned deserter
and now scout for the Texans.
This is put together the dream.
dream team. These are like, you know,
random NPCs that you
would meet in Red Dead 2.
That's fucking absolutely correct.
Eurasic Smith,
aka death.
I mean, that also kind of
sounds like you created
Texian mayhem.
Yeah, uh,
Euras,
the Smith all before he would have scouting missions
also breathed in a bag with a dead dove in it.
Yeah,
but that was normal back then.
They didn't have deodorant.
Yeah, it was perfume.
At this point,
the Mexican forces under
cost had split, sitting a group to the nearby Alamo mission. So they would need to pin them
in place while they attack on San Antonio commenced. The volunteers rolled cannons into place and
began to hammer the alamo, hoping to keep the soldiers there undercover, but also distract everyone
to thinking that the Alamo was their primary target, while the main assaulting force moved closer
to San Antonio. This worked perfectly. The assaulting force was so undetected by the Mexican
centuries in San Antonio that they were mostly just huddled around fires on the perimeter
not really paying attention, that the Texans walked right by them and didn't even bother
to shoot them thinking that if they would alert the soldiers inside the town.
The two columns advanced 200 meters from San Antonio's town square without resistance.
They literally just walked inside.
However, once there, they ran right into Mexican cannons and began pumping canister shot into
them.
The volunteers turned, broke into nearby homes for cover, beginning what would turn into four days
of brutal frontier urban combat, which was something weirdly enough that the Texans end up being
really good at. The riflemen quickly climbed the roofs of the houses. And these were traditional
Mexican homes that all had a parapet on top, which happened to be perfect to set up sniping nests
with your rifles. It's just wild because it's like, yeah, you think of, you know, dust, dust bunnies and
saguaro cacti and it's just a really, you know, quiet, desolate desert. And instead it's like, no,
we're doing military operations in urban terrain, except it's the city from Apocalypto.
With my eight-foot-long rifle.
Yeah, it's just like stupid log rifle, just full-od like fucking the cruiser rifle because
it's meant to shoot elephants.
I brought my punt gun, boys.
And other men armed with shotguns and pistols crashed through doors and assaulted Mexican
soldiers at close range.
I'm going to throw this one out there to start to interrupt you, Joe, that much like
the weird long-ass cars that become the car that like the penguin drives in the Batman
movies, when a gun is really long, much like when a car is.
really long. It's codes that's both weirdly
horny and stupid at the same time.
Yeah. I hope I'm not going too far out on a limb
here. But the idea of like, the gun
is just dumb, long, and you're swinging around.
There's something pre-apic about it. I don't know
why. They're just trying to impress all the horses.
No, you're trying to shame all the horses.
That's right. You're right. My bad. This is
how weird it looks when your huge dick sticks
out. I forgot.
We're trying to train horses via shaming.
Oh, yeah. We're trying to make horses
self-conscious. We're trying to make them doubt
themselves. I'm giving
horses body dysmorphia. We're doing
reverse psychology and shaming people
with big cocks. It's like, oh yeah, look at you over there
with your big dick.
I mean, that is literally the whole of like
the myth of preemphis and the fucking Greek
mythology that it's like just, you know,
vulgar and ridiculous where it's like
a well, a dignified man
has a tiny penis.
The Greeks, man, they were on something
completely different. Everybody knows the true
Texan revolutionary heroes were all sporting
micropines. Yeah, you're a really
uncomfortable skinny jeans, aren't
you, fucking baggy pants?
The Mexicans
had turned some houses
into what were effectively block houses
by reinforcing them. And in order to
break into them, Texans took over the rooftops
and began hacking through the ceiling
with axes, having no idea
how far they were going to fall when they broke
through. After more than one man
dropped several stories and broke their
legs in a room full of enemies, the
Texans instead deployed blankets so they
could lower men in, dual wielding pistols
and shotguns. So I guess this is history's first air assault? At least America's first air assault.
But by the fourth day, it had rained so much that virtually no man had any dry powder left,
so the battle grinded on with hand-to-hand weapons. This went until December 10th, when Koss ordered
his subordinate Sanchez Navarro to ride into town and attempt to parlay with the Texans.
A few hours later, the Texans came to terms of surrender. The Mexicans, still inside of San Antonio,
would be allowed to leave for the Alamo, where they would be allowed to leave, get their
shit together, treat their wounded before packing everything up, and further retreating into
the Mexican interior, where the Texans promised they would be safe during their journey.
Men from the San Antonio area or Tejano's in Mexican service were simply allowed to go home,
and every soldier was forced to swear an oath not to violate the Mexican constitution.
With causes retreat and the Texan victory at San Antonio, it meant there was no organized Mexican
army remaining in Texas.
But that did not mean
the war was over as much as the
Texans kind of thought it was.
And that is we'll pick up on part three
of the Texas Revolution.
Yee ha!
Yee ha!
I'm not doing it.
I'm from the north.
Do it.
We got the Irish guy doing it.
Yeehaw.
There we go.
Yeah, y'ha, indeed.
Yeha.
Yeah.
There is a country song from the 90s
where there's like the sort of ironic,
flatly delivered.
yehah. I don't know what song it is.
If you can remember, let me know, because I'm struggling
here. I mean, like, yihar is
just like the Texas version of saying, al-hounda
really lately.
No, I'm just,
Joe, this is, I can't believe it, man. How are you,
how we're just abandoning any kind of sense of
regional pride in our own identity? Like, we
should be saying whoop-whoop, you know that.
Like, when we eventually do something more
on the Midwest, we will go
back to whoop-whoop. I mean,
a guy with fucked up weird dirty hair and
dreadlocks swinging a fucking cleaver.
would fit in with what we've just described
with the Texans. Put them in buckskins and they'll be able to tell
the difference. Exactly, yes.
Same amount of alcohol consumption. It's similar
quality and purity. What you see
you have there is a Kentucky
long rifle. What I brought
is called a catalytic converter.
Thank you very much for coming to my
side show. I want to tell you all
about a good friend of mine called
the Great Melancho.
I believe the Texas Revolution
should be formed around the political ideology
of the Dark Carnival.
I know that many of y'all enjoy smoking of the heathen Indians tobacco,
but I've got a thing that I've discovered in the field as though I should introduce to y'all
is called K2.
Methanphetamine.
I'm going to whip shitty on this horse where I'm grinding my teeth into dust.
Whipping shitties on a horse.
That's just, that's just just just cantering.
Let's just do horse training.
The problem is when you externalize it from horse.
You can whip shitties on a horse and it's normal, but a vehicle shouldn't do that.
If you do it too fast as a horse,
their legs all just break and flop around like an octopus.
Or it has like, I don't know, I just do it too fast on a horse
that it becomes like centrifugal force
and therefore their legs just go sideways.
Once again, we're coming back to rotating a horse.
Slowly rotating a horse with a jungle o' at top.
Whoop, yay!
Yay, whoop!
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