Lions Led By Donkeys Podcast - Episode 384 - The Texas Revolution: Part 2

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everyone, it's Joe. If you like what we do here on the show, consider supporting us on Patreon. Just $5 a month gets you access to our entire bonus episode catalog, as well as every regular episode, one full week early. Access to all of our side series that are currently ongoing and our back catalog of those as well. Gets you e-books, audio books, first dibs on live show tickets and merchandise when they're available, and also gets you access to our Discord, which has turned into a lovely little community. So go to patreon.com slash lions led by donkeys and join the Legion of the Old Crow today. to the Lions and Buy Donkeys podcast. I'm Joe and with me is Tom and Nate. Things are getting
Starting point is 00:01:03 especially heated here at the Bucky's Revolutionary Council. Several men have hung a large banner reading come and take it over the Mountain Dew display. Others are stabbing each other over the proper amount of spice that goes into their no bean chili. While another man has crashed his lifted horse wagon through the wall, it's truly the most beautiful republic on God's green earth. Fellas, how are we doing? You know, I realize that your friend, you know, former platoon mate who had gotten the lower back tattoo of Texas or whatever.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Yeah. He should have gotten come and take it with a cannon over his ass. Yeah. It's just a canon that says come under it. I mean, in this analogy of like the lifted wagon, we are once again, you know,
Starting point is 00:01:48 within the Texas Houston rap scene of once again, you are gripping wood. Yeah. Well, also like, I don't know if you're familiar with this, but with the Houston slabs and like some of the stuff they do with the neon lights inside the trunks
Starting point is 00:02:01 I've seen so many amazing things where it's like you know it'll be like neon art of cups of lean and you'll say like this why you ho missing or another one I saw was don't go broke trying to catch up like genuinely just unbelievable I mean like it's a whole art
Starting point is 00:02:18 and it's like Roman chariot spikes the swang as the great big spikes that sum out from the rims yeah like I said it's just it's a whole new thing No, the whistle tip is a thing in Oakland in the Bay Fine. These cause problems
Starting point is 00:02:32 and annoyance in a different way. Instead of making noise, imagine if you had spikes coming out of the center of your rims. So like, yeah, people can't be basically doing
Starting point is 00:02:40 like gladded like chariot combat on that ass. Cut open a horse. It's just nothing but neon lights and like the glow in the dark lean cup. Like, yo,
Starting point is 00:02:49 check out my busted ass horse. No, you got a series of candles underneath the wagon. Well, I mean, it also kind of comes across the idea that like some of these things are just
Starting point is 00:02:57 even though we have modern reasons and manifestations of them, they're actually eternally occurring throughout the culture. And if you went back to this day, like you said, guy would be gripping grain on the old horse wagon, but he would have the neon equivalent, I don't know, like candlelit painting, like a canvas candlelit painting back lit to make it glow. It's like
Starting point is 00:03:13 Black Bart Simpson with two muskets or something like that. They're going to have me turn back into the old me. You got a whole bunch of like Texans sitting around, sipping on Promethocene lace chilly. Yeah, like I said, exactly. It's like a throwback fucking, you know, historical retcon king of the trill. That's what we're talking about today. And I have to say this just in case it comes across like, goofy white boy shit. This is from a position of nothing but love and
Starting point is 00:03:39 respect. I fucking love. Yeah, we're making fun of the Texans in this situation. I love. I know, I don't want to live in. Houston has some things about it that I don't like, like no zoning loss whatsoever. An 18 lane highway or whatever the fuck it is now. Yeah, yeah. As a friend of mine said, it's like there's literally no reason why you can't have the street where there's a daycare next to a strip club next to a chemical refinery. That's just Houston. And there's no fucking sidewalks. Yeah, look, we live in a wonderful, wonderful timeline of the continuous history of the Texas mud cop. Yep. Yeah. When we left you last time, the revolutionaries of Texas fed up with the Mexican government trying to take away their slaves and make them pay taxes
Starting point is 00:04:20 rose up against the centralist government of Antonio Lopez de Santa Ana, culminating in the Battle of Gonzalez, a confused mess of a fight that resulted in that come-and-take-it flag that every American knows due to it being like a literal modern-day bumper sticker-based red flag for whoever is driving the truck that just cut you off in traffic. Once word of the Texan victory gets out, both throughout Texas and the United States, thousands of men run to join the fight. We have to start this episode by going back just a little in time.
Starting point is 00:04:53 In mid-September, Santa Ana set a force of 500 men under the command of his brother-in-law, General Martine Perfecto Koss, to land at Capano Bay. From there, they were supposed to advance inland and expel illegal settlers back across the American border, as well as disarmed the Texans. The Battle of Gonzales really only sucked in the hardliners, those settlers who are already joining militias against government orders, the ones willing to square off with Mexican soldiers when they came to town to take a cannon, even if that cannon happened to be government property.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Cause is about to do the one thing that no government wants to do during a revolution, and that is motivate normal people to side with the revolutionaries. As Koss and his mid-advance from Capano Bay, they came across mostly peaceful settlers, but also towns populated by Tejanos. According to the government, the Tejanos were now as much as settlers as the Texans were. and soon orders went out that everyone had to hand over their guns. Then, news of the Battle of Gonzalez got to them. Texas and Tejano's got together in the town of Madagorda
Starting point is 00:05:55 and decided that the time had come to stand up a militia of volunteers and elect their leadership. Deciding on George Collingsworth from Mississippi as captain, Dr. William Carleton as his second, and C.D. Collingsworth, George's brother, as his third. Together, the three men decide the best course of action was not to wait for the Mexican forces to advance on their town, but rather to strike out where they were stationed at Lobhia.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Though some of this had to do with something else. For example, there was a very loud rumor that cause took with him a stash of money worth about $50,000 back then in Mexican silver. This wouldn't have been too unheard of, as generals did often take money with them on the march so they could pay their soldiers. So the battle plan boiled down to attacking Labia, stealing the money, and kidnapping costs so they could then ransom him. back for money to Santa Ana.
Starting point is 00:06:48 This volunteer force of only about 20 men set out the same night and immediately they began bickering with one another over the mission until another vote was held. Dr. Carlton was fired and CD Collingsworth replaced him from third to second. And another man, James Moore,
Starting point is 00:07:04 was promoted to third. They sent word out to other settlements for reinforcements which they got and included in this was dozens of Vicaros or Tejano Cowboys. We aren't entirely sure how many men Collingsworth and ended up recruiting because the man just did not bother to keep any paperwork. But the generally accepted number is about 120.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Just to be clear here, these men were revolutionaries, but they were not, let's say, Texan nationalists. Not yet, anyway. Instead, they all swore an oath to defend the Federal Republic of Mexico and its constitution of 1824. But by the time the men had gathered, Koss had left Labahia, and he got word of the Battle of Gonzales and quickly marched for San Antonio, meaning their entire human bank robbery scheme had fallen through, though the garrison itself was left pretty much empty, leaving only 50 men behind to guard it. So the volunteers moved in anyway, maneuvering around the fort in the middle of the night, and they promptly got lost and trapped in a mesquite thicket. But you know that lunch going to be fucking slapping
Starting point is 00:08:08 once they make those campfires. Yeah, I will say for like Iowa Station, Texas and had the the joy of getting lost. Well, not necessarily lost, but wandering through a mesquite thick while doing land navigation. Shit is thick. It's real, real unpleasant. There's mesquite, if I'm not mistaken,
Starting point is 00:08:25 it's not really big trees, right? It's kind of like bigger juniper trees, isn't it? Like, it's kind of, or am I thinking something different? It seems like a giant bush for those, uh, yeah, yeah, because that's kind of how juniper trees kind of. I mean, they're trees, but they're like, what if bonsai trees got fucking zapped with a big, like, honey I blew up the kid, Ray?
Starting point is 00:08:43 Yeah. So I figured Mesquite was probably a similar thing. Now what's weird is they were not the only person trapped that specific Mesquite thicket. Like some kind of RPG side quest giver, they ran into a singular other man who was just chilling in the thicket named Benjamin Rush Millum.
Starting point is 00:09:00 He was out there trying to, who's out there trying to invent barbecue? He had to commune with the forest. They were wondering through the thicket just saw a guy sitting there with an exclamation point above his head. I feel like I need to talk to this man. He's like the spirit of
Starting point is 00:09:13 the hills and the forest has told me that some important thing is going to be revealed to me in this in this mesquite thick and I need to go there and just wait. And it's like, well, yeah, because you got to smell it. And they'd be like, what if I burned this on some meat? That's how Texan Christianity was created. Yeah, the burning bush. Then you fucking throw in racks or ribs on top of that shit. Don't listen to the burning bush, just cook on that motherfucker. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, burning bush, but that's just for getting the glaze to hard. You actually have to cook that shit. You got to get a simmer it beforehand. You know, you got to do the boiling, brazing, whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Whole, yeah, wow. We could really ruin this episode script and take it off track. I started to go talk about fucking barbecue, so I'm just going to be quiet. Millam was one of the very first Americans to ever settle in Texas back in 1819. And when he moved there, he just kind of moved in with the local Comanchees who were just like, all right, whatever, white boy. It seems like an unending list of just crazy-ass white boys who end up with Native Americans. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I mean, because one community was much more welcoming than the other. Yeah, true. Yeah, I mean, basically you could join the Comanche like his, your family didn't like you having face piercings or something like that. Sort of like 1800s goth kid and you're like these people. It's like finding the kingdom of the bees from the end of that blind melon video. But your dad is now magua from fucking last week. I know I'm mixing it up.
Starting point is 00:10:32 I'm sorry. I just much like Texas and, uh, you know, blind melon. There's no rain. There is no rain. Feel free to boomie on that one. Oh, before we go ahead, I was thinking about the last. episode and I said the only good thing to come from Texas is Zizi Top. I need to correct myself on that before we proceed any further. At the drive-in and butthole surfers are also from Texas.
Starting point is 00:10:52 They are. They absolutely are. Somehow I didn't know that at the drive-in was from Texas. Yeah, El Paso. Yeah. I was also going to say, too, that a lot of good things come from Texas. Begrudgingly, we must admit. Yeah. And also bringing it back to Blind Melon, I was going to say, like Shannon Hoon from Blind Melon has really lived the Indiana dream of becoming a rock star and dying from heroin at the same time. I thought he died of cocaine. Heroin. Oh.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Yeah. It was the 90s. Yeah. From living with the Comanchees, Milam joined a freebooter expedition, which failed, landed him in prison for several years, and from there, he joined the Mexican army as a colonel under Santa Ana. And then Santana gutted the government. He lost his job, and Milam joined several other Mexican federalists in the rebellion against him.
Starting point is 00:11:40 But his unit got smashed, leaving him one of the few. few people left alive. And then he jumped on a horse and wrote about 400 goddamn miles till they get stuck in that thicket. Jesus Christ. Upon seeing that the men in the thicket with it were texting, he was like, yeah, all right, I'll join you guys too. And he went from Colonel to private. Everyone is just like Santa Ana maxing at this time. He was like switching sides at every possible turn. You taught me everything I know. I also just like the idea of this being like, you know, it's like a weird mini-series kind of thing in an episode two. It's just like the entire episode is confined to a fucking forest. And it's just constantly more people getting lost in
Starting point is 00:12:18 the forest and running into each other in the forest. And it's just really, that is actually how like, you know, uh, 19th century military operations went quite often. It makes more sense if it was a forest, but it's literally just a thicket. Everybody's just stuck in some small bushes. Everyone, everyone's doing the military equivalent of cruising in Homestead Heath. it's the military version of Hober Simpson backing into the bush but as he backs in he runs into several Texans yeah I was just thinking about this that it winds up becoming like a Samuel Beckett play if more and more people trying to jam themselves into the bush
Starting point is 00:12:50 and pretend that they just walked into it by mistake somehow the Texans demanded that La Bejia surrendered to which of course they refuse so the next night the Texans snuck into the fort hacked down the commander's door with an axe and captured him without a fight only after the result shouting match of him getting captured at gunpoint, did the other soldiers realize that like, oh God, there's enemy in our fort, and began firing at the Texans. Though once the Texans returned to fire and the Mexicans realized their commander was being held at axe point, they decided
Starting point is 00:13:22 to surrender. La Bejia and the nearby town of Goliad fell in about 20 minutes. This is obviously a massive victory for the young rebellion, but in more than one way. La Bejia was between Koss's army and Capano Bay, meaning not only they cut off his run of withdrawal, for those unaware, again, Texas is bigger than you think it is, and Capano Bay was Koss's only way of resupply and reinforcement. Unless, of course, he marched all the way out of Texas and into interior Mexico, which would take days, if not weeks. Meanwhile, with the main political movers of Texas, revolt was turning into war. A political body named the Sampfelis, Committee for Public Safety was formed, and in case that name rings a bell, there is a French
Starting point is 00:14:10 revolutionary motivation behind it. It was chaired in the provisional Texan capital of San Felipe, and Stephen Austin went before the committee and declared that they were clearly at war, petting a now very well-known letter that called for the people of Texas to fight against, quote, military despotism. The committee then circulated this letter as far and wide as they could. It ended up being reprinted in like American newspapers and things like that. Though if there was going to be a war, they would need an actual army and that army would need a commander. Austin was probably the most well-known man in Texas because he's kind of Texas's singular founding father at this point. And he was immediately selected to be the Texan army
Starting point is 00:14:54 commander despite having no real military experience to speak of. He dubbed this new army, the Army of the People, and it numbered about 300 dudes. Texan's first target was clear. Mexico had one large garrison in the area, and what you know it, they had kind of accidentally cut it off from the sea, Koss at San Antonio and is now 650 men. However, San Antonio and the men inside it were hardly prepared for open war. Life on the Mexican frontier, like we said, was very hard for everyone, soldiers included. And it's why nobody wanted to move and work there. Again, soldiers included. Your average Mexican soldier in Texas would do anything they could do to get out of frontier duty. So border garrisons were normally badly understaffed and reinforced
Starting point is 00:15:42 with men given a choice, prison or Texas. Death or Texas. Yeah. The only thing that's certain in life is death or Texas. This was something known by the government and the military. These were the runoff of their army, I guess. And they purposely left them chronically short of supplies of food, uniforms, even boots. Sometimes they just didn't bother to pay them because they didn't want to be there. The government hated them because most of them were convicts. So fuck them. As a result, their morale was about as bad as you could imagine.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Though I shouldn't point out the flaws of the Mexican army in Texas without also talking about the Texan army of the people. For starters, it was an army in a. name only. Most of these men in the ranks had no formal training, though there was a few veterans from the War of 1812 kicking around, especially veterans of the Battle of New Orleans due to, you know, most these guys being from the South. They had no logistical network, no standardized recruitment pool or armament to the point they didn't even have canteens to carry water, something that is very important in Texas of all places. Also, it's like anyone who's a veteran of 1812, like, they're quite old. Yeah. Like, unless they were fighting like as a
Starting point is 00:16:54 a teenager. They're old as shit. Yeah, especially for a frontier life. Yeah. Instead, at this point, your average Texan volunteer carried water in a hollowed out gourd. Yes. We need to bring back, look at, they had gourds, they weren't worrying about microplastics.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Yeah, I don't have pieces of gourd in my ball sack, but I do have microplastics. I'm sipping on my chili out of my gourd. The chili gourd. Hey man, you know what? It's basically suck attach because it's like a fucking squash aid. It's got chili in the side of you. That's all good.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I was going to say, too, is that it's funny to me because the French word for, like, a water bottle is an gourd, which I didn't know. I would have said, Unvouté, but like, yeah, they always called a little plastic, little sport bottles in Gould. And I guess, like, having a gourd that you carry is just a thing that's just transcended, you know? They may have started it there, but it made it its way back with, like, the last dude to get his ass booted the fuck out of Mexico back to France.
Starting point is 00:17:42 They brought the drinking gourd. God damn it, Stephen, you're not supposed to eat the gourd. Sipping chili out of my gourd. Man, don't fucking say that. People are going to start coming to live shows with, like, hauled out pumpkins full of chili and shit. Do it. Bring me a howlid out pumpkin to sigh. Yeah, then I can eat a bit of it and do
Starting point is 00:18:00 the Texas limit break, aka shit myself. Some men volunteered without even owning a gun, which I know sounds shocking because we're talking about Texans here. The ones that did bring their own guns, obviously they don't have enough gunpowder or shot
Starting point is 00:18:15 at home for an actual battle, you know? So everybody's short of everything. The men also had zero discipline. The first order that Austin passed that you're being elected was a calm reminder for the men to please obey the orders of their elected officers. His second order
Starting point is 00:18:32 was to beg them to stop indiscriminately firing their weapons into the air, quite literally going, yay! So that's where that stereotype comes from. Yeah, I like to, you know, it's very on brand for a quote unquote army of people who have been
Starting point is 00:18:48 banded together under the auspices of, I'm not going to do what you tell me to do. Exactly. the third order was to demand that men stop drinking and coming to duty drunk they're exactly the kinds of dudes you would expect would volunteer to settle in the frontiers it is quite hard to do a drink check on a gourd you know everybody up at your gourds this is like the soft plot plot plop of chili coming out got dominina widen my gourd but that's why maybe that's why there's no beans in it because beans
Starting point is 00:19:23 would be quite hard to pour into a gourd. Yeah, it's all just meat and spices. Sipping on that Texas lean out of my gourd, baby. I got one gourd shoved inside another and I'm double-cuffed up. Another big-ass gorg has a funnel to pour it into the smaller gourd. Whipp it around. All my tricked out wagon drinking Texas mud cup chili out of my gourd. I mean, I feel like they obviously, they had like metal smithing and casting at this point.
Starting point is 00:19:50 They probably could have made a metal funnel, but it is very funny to imagine like Texas Assembly lied is just dudes walking, carrying gourds, putting them under the metal funnel like the chili truck with, yeah, the can just painting. A spikin of chili. Yeah, exactly. This is why you ho missing written on the side of it. He's dumping chili. That's why your beans missing. Hey, come fill up your chili gourd ah, the chili
Starting point is 00:20:09 hos. I really wish this episode would come out before our live show. We could all just bring howled out gourds on stage to drink from. But if we did it now, we just look insane people. Now, just because Koss and his soldiers were only slightly more soldiers than the Texans, it didn't mean that they were doing anything. They had dug into San Antonio and reforced a position with about 20 cannons and trained
Starting point is 00:20:32 cavalry. A lot of the veterans on the Texan side knew this and warned Austin that our guys are brave to a fault and they might be itching for a fight, but they are still quite literally an untrained militia. If you want to fight and win, stay to the brush, stick to the ambushes, you know, fight like the Cherokee do. Because like obviously the Mexicans have been able to defeat them. Austin said, fuck that, and the army was marching towards San Antonio. Though he did try to offset his lack of trained dragoons, because like the Mexican army at this point is famed for their like Napoleonic tradition of dragoons. Mostly because Santa Ana was obsessed with Napoleon.
Starting point is 00:21:09 He called himself the Napoleon of the West. He made his uniform look Napoleon-esque things like he was obsessed with the guy. Certainly nothing anybody in this podcast has ever done. I mean, that implies that Santa Ana was also a feat guy then. It can be assumed. Yeah. So he tried to offset this lack of dragoons by simply creating some. To croons, just to bring it back to military history and not our riff on Napoleon,
Starting point is 00:21:35 dragoons, if I'm not mistaken, are kind of like a light cavalry, right? Yeah, they're cavalry skirmishers, light armored, armed with lances or sabers. And they typically like, they do cavalry stuff, like you said cavalry skirmishing, but then also like part of being a dragoon is then dismounting and having dismounted fighting as well. Yes. They carry carbines on them most of the time so they can dismount and fire in a skirmishing line. But weirdly, the Mexican dragoons seem to be more used and a more correct term. You'd call them Lancers. But Santa Ana always explicitly called them dragoons. Which is funny because dragoons sounds badass, but like, you know, it starts being like, oh yeah, I know that job class from Final Fantasy
Starting point is 00:22:13 tactics, much like Onion Knight. But there was a military role. The Mexicans are going to hit them with the dragoon jump. Yeah, Santa Ana's formation just disappears for one turn. But it falls exactly where it jumped before. So you just sidestep it slightly. The Texans catching a flying dragoon spear from the top of the head as they do a superhero landing.
Starting point is 00:22:35 You thought you were going to beat his ass, but oh, no, Santa Ana changed his job class back to Squire. He just keeps using yell on himself because that's what he loves doing. And now he has 30 turns to every one of yours. So he can literally defeat you by just slowly but surely caressing your feet until you give up. They're just giving me horrible flashbacks of my time playing Final Fantasy
Starting point is 00:22:54 Tactics. Now, this unit was nicknamed the Gonzales Lancers. They were not Lancers. They didn't even have lances. The Gonzalez Lancers now sounds like a really shitty high school fucking sports team. It might be. Probably is. Yeah. Takes one to no one. I was the fucking
Starting point is 00:23:10 Carmel Greyhound. So like, there you go. I was the Corsairs. Actually, all of my schools from elementary to high school, were named after pirates. I was the El Dorado Dust Devils, New Mexico, Clay Trojans, whatever, Clayton your high school, and then the Carmel Greyhounds,
Starting point is 00:23:29 and then I don't know what IU Hoosiers. Can you define what it is? It's just, you know, inscrutable thing that just roams around. I don't know. So, mascots. The Hoosiers are encrypted. According to Francis, Hoosier is a slur in Mrs. Missouri of being like a strike breaker.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Ah. So, like, we call ourselves Hoosiers proudly. And he's like, in Missouri, if you bear Hoosier, that means you're a scab and you're a piece of shit. I was like, all right. I mean, if you're a clay Trojan,
Starting point is 00:23:53 does that mean like you're there? He's like, hold up, babe. I just need to stick my dick in the kiln for like 13 hours. It's a literal dick helmet. My university, obviously famously Michigan State Spartans,
Starting point is 00:24:06 nothing problematic connected. Anything bad ever happened there. Nothing problematic connected to that name or university. The Gonzales Lancers were just some guys on horseback. And instead of lances, they had cane poles that someone fastened sharpened files to the end. So it's got a bit of sharpened metal wrapped around the end of these poles. Just hold up a second.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Let me like scrape this against your face for 15 minutes. We do your nails real quick, motherfucker. The horses nor the men knew how to fight in this capacity. Obviously, it takes a lot to train a horse to do things in a military manner because no animal is just going to run headlog into combat. against your anybody's survival instinct. So, yeah, just some random dudes with fucking military prison shivs on horseback. It's also very funny what you pointed that out because it's like, obviously, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:58 soldiers famously were not very smart either, but, you know, there's a better communication and people get, get bullied and shamed into it. It's like, I don't think you can really shame a horse. You can scare a horse, but I don't think you can shame a horse. I think we should try. No, but a horse shamer is like a hundred percent a job that would have existed after. this point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Yeah. I mean, yeah, exactly. Just love the idea. The person comes around and be like, yeah. Your hooves look fucked up. One of those! You just don't look at those long ass teeth, freak. Nice fucking weird tail that you just used to scare flies around with, you weird fucker.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I don't know how to shame a horse. We could do eat hay, you bitch. I was going to, I'm not going to make Joe uncomfortable with this, but there's this, There's an excerpt of Rinaldo Aranus' memoir before Night Falls that if you read it, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about, about shaming a horse, or rather a shameless horse, a ways in which horses, and it's not to do with Mr. Hans shit or whatever. It's subtler than that. But I feel like we were already done too much with turning Joe into the world's most aware of gay things, non- Your baby mama having foals with someone else.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Rinaldo Aranus describes riding home on a horse with his mom and it was a female horse and then like an unharnessed male horse came up and the female horse they were riding on basically like kicked and winning and forced them off and wouldn't let them stay on because she's like, no, I need to get fucked by this male horse. And he's like, both me and my mom are like, oh, I really want to get dicked out like that too. I mean, so it's just...
Starting point is 00:26:27 Yeah, that might... That he would have been like 13. So it's like, it's a deeply horny book. It's weird, but they made a... Julian Schnabel made a movie out of it, so... So I know about it. I feel like that says something that shames the horse as much as shames the riders for the horse not wanting to fuck them.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Like, what, I'm not good enough? It's horse cook holding. Yeah, I got horse cucks. Oh my God, you're right, man. But then the horse is also the cuck stool. Yeah. This is like that tweet I saw the other day just do horses know their vehicles? The Army's march towards San Antonio was pretty uneventful,
Starting point is 00:27:02 other than running into a Mexican scouting party who broke contact and ran back to the garrison. Now, the Texans took this as a victory, other than, you know, scouts did. doing their job. And when Austin got a good look at San Antonio's defenses for the first time, he saw he might be kind of fought. Not only because the cannons, but because he had found he was also outnumbered two to one. Now, there were a few bright spots. For one, more Mexican military commanders were rising up against Santa Ana. And a lot of the nearby Tejanos were pretty sick of cost at his soldiers. So Juan Sagine was charged with trying to recruit as many of them as he could. And he did. He recruited a ton of Tejanos, a lot of Vicaros. And this pretty much
Starting point is 00:27:41 save the Texan army. Because Austin realized an assault was impossible, they would stead need to besiege costs. It meant that he would be tied down without any logistical system to support his siege. The Vicaros turned into that support system that Austin had not even thought of. They ran foraging missions for the Texans so they didn't starve. They acted as something of like a pony express so the various parts the Texan rebellion could communicate. And they became guides so random settlers didn't get lost and die on the frontier while trying to make the way to the army. Another important thing that Austin realizes, he didn't really know the defensive layout of San Antonio. As was normal for a former Spanish colony, there's a lot of missions that had
Starting point is 00:28:23 been built around the town. Think of forts. Like the Alamo. The Alamo is a mission. They're like, their forts built to ward off native attack. Don't think of them as castles or anything like that. So Austin needed to find out just how many of them are still being manned by Mexican forces. To do that, he put together a column of 90 mid commanded by a guy. I think a lot of people listening that know at least something about the Texas Revolution were waiting for me to introduce. James Bowie. You might know him better as the guy who has a knife named after him. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Yeah. Booy knife and all that. Yep. Famed American frontiersmen. And by that I mean an unhinged insane serial killer of the American native population. He's probably best known for two things. The massive knife he carried on him at all times. which, of course, is named the Bowie Knife and was pretty much the size of machete and
Starting point is 00:29:15 his eventual death, which we will get to. Okay. He was also a crippling alcoholic who need to be slightly soft at all times, unless he start getting the shakes. I mean, I feel like that's just part and parcel of being alive at this time. He was such an alcoholic that other people involved on the frontier remarked on it. That's how much of a booze hound. Oh, it's like being known for being a racist in the antebellum south, basically.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Yeah. He went to above and beyond the call of duty of being a frontier alcoholic. And with him was James Fanon, one of the only men of professional military training and education, even if that happened to only be two years at West Point before he dropped out and became a slave trader. Heroes of the Revolution, one at all. Well, that's the thing, right? You didn't have to be an LLC Twitter bullshit back in these days. If you wanted to just be a complete fucking asshole, there were so many different jobs available to you.
Starting point is 00:30:08 I mean, it was horrible. I'm not saying it's funny or good. I'm just saying like, when you think about it's like, oh, what are you going to do? Well, actually, school isn't really working out for me. So instead of it's like, oh, I'm going to go work on the oil patch or I'm going to join the military. I'm going to fucking go to trade school. It's like, no, I think I'm going to abduct people. I think I'm going to go become the president of Nicaragua, like just fucking whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Become a snake oil salesman. I'm going to die of putting mercury in one of my orifices. I'm going to form a breakaway state in the middle of the Mexican desert. I've got to discover alchemy. again. Lots of people said they couldn't fix it, but I can. I'm different. Yeah, I understand the law of equivalent exchange after what happened to my
Starting point is 00:30:46 brother and I. Jesus Christ. Buies column marched for Mission Concepcion, with the clear orders not to go that far, only to get a good look at Mexican positions and to turn around and come back once they did.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Alston was worried that if they were gone longer, the larger Mexican force would catch that the smaller Texan force, had split and corner one half of it and destroy them. Bowie immediately ignored these orders and has men camp out overnight. Koss alerted to Bowie's column thanks to a nearby priest slash spy and had a force of 400 soldiers, 300 of whom were mounted and 100 of whom were infantry, to ride out that morning and attack them.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Bowie, despite probably being off his face drunk, had seen this as a possibility. So not only did he set guards ahead of the main force, but he set his men around a bend of a nearby river in something that resembled a V shape. Bowie knew an L shape would probably be better to catch a larger force in something that Nate and I could attest to vividly. We're talking about some L-shaped ambushes?
Starting point is 00:31:49 Yeah, but he was worried that his idiot-ass untrained soldiers would shoot one another at a crossfire, which, to be honest here, we've been doing the show for nearly a decade. This might be one of the smartest things, but simultaneously most simple things we've ever talked about an officer doing.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Most of the time on this show, and we talk about a battle like this, and the officer lines his men up in a way that's the most tactically proficient, but are shocked to find them shooting at each other because they know so little about their own men's capabilities. Bowie knew his own men and knew they did not know what they were doing. So really, really quickly,
Starting point is 00:32:27 I promise this will not take more than a minute, Joe, just so people understand. The biggest thing is, like Joe's pointed out, doing ambushes, is to put things where when everyone is shooting and they're going pointing their weapons in the right direction and not at each other. When you're like, oh, what if we shot from both sides? Like, no, you'll just shoot
Starting point is 00:32:41 each other because that's how bullets work. We just talked about that in the different battle of the broken British square of them all just gutting each other down at Boy Blake Rage. Literally, like, in the doctrinal way that we were taught, obviously this was different back then, but like this lines up with a lot of stuff because so much the tactics in small unit things in the U.S. military are based on shit that they started doing like the
Starting point is 00:32:59 fucking the 1700s and like the seven years war. It's literally just what is the thing that we used to initiate it? What are the left and the furthest extent on either side of the ambush? And then what are you going to do afterwards and then everyone gets out? And it's like, it's so crazy when you hear this, like, wow, this sounds like mega ultra-tactical stuff or like super contemporary stuff. And it's like, well, no, if you paid attention to like,
Starting point is 00:33:19 how do I avoid getting shot by my own guys and having my own guys shoot each other, it makes sense to do it this way. As sick as it would fucking be to double-pinser flanking maneuvers and shit, it's like, that doesn't even work now when we've got GPS and night vision. Like, what do you think it was like back in these when no one could read and everyone was drunk. Yeah. Meanwhile,
Starting point is 00:33:35 like you got fucking booey, like swaying back and forth, one hand out of a nondescript brown jug that just says X, X, X, X, X on it. And the other hand out of a shock is like, I got a fucking idea. Don't move until you hear my mark. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Well, at least we always know where the casualty collection point is going to be. He also places him in elevated positions on a downward slope covered by trees, which meant they could rise up. up, fire, take cover in the trees, and the Mexican cavalry would not be able to maneuver into them. I'm going to say one thing too. I don't know a ton about Jim Bowie, but I will say this. This does strike me as somebody who has managed to be like, oh, here is how you not get killed
Starting point is 00:34:16 by Native Americans, because this is 100% the shit. They knew very, very well. Bowie's only military experience up until the revolution was being a quote unquote Indian fighter, which was a term used for men who killed a lot of native people. a lot of whom were unarmed women and children, Jim Bowie, famous for doing this, which probably is why he drank so much. But also when you were actually fighting against Braves and fighters from, there were certain things where the cost of you performing badly was get buried up to your neck in ants and or have your dick turned into a polygon sculpture.
Starting point is 00:34:54 So, like, there is an incentive to get good at your job. He probably learned this from fighting natives because the natives famously fought an ambushes. And he's like, I should learn how to do that before I die. Yeah, I was going to say, it's exactly what I was thinking. When you described that, I'm like, oh, wait, you picked terrain so they actually were like, they were in defilade, could then pop up and fire and get down and not like that. That sounds exactly like, oh, if only we had known to use the terrain after this dude, a guy with a fucking hatchet cut everyone's scalp off.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Like, it's just the nature of it. It's often put as like, oh, the Texans knew how to do this because they're fighting in their own backyard. That's not true. Jim Bowie had not been in Texas for more than. of like six months. Like Sam Houston just showed up. The vast majority of dudes in Texas right now as a population had been there
Starting point is 00:35:41 less than two years. But it's also very funny that they're like, this guy who's like this outside fucking counterinsurgency expert, you know, like fucking tracker scout sniper dude shows up. And he's like, y'all want to drop some knowledge on you guys. If you stand behind a tree,
Starting point is 00:35:53 they can't see you. I was like, look, look, I learned a lot of, you know, great tactics from my time with the, you know, Native Americans, but the greatest tactic I learned was from a baby playing peekaboo. Many people don't know. Let me show you.
Starting point is 00:36:11 He has like all of the volunteers gather out of him. He's like, peekaboo. Famously, object permanence was only developed for soldiers in 1914. Yeah, exactly. That cover turned out to be the most important part of Bowie's battle plan because by 8 a.m., the Mexican forces marched in and began shelling the piss out of them with cannon fire. According to one Texan veteran, because they were taking cover behind pecan trees, each time a Mexican cannibal went flying at them, harmlessly crashing amongst the bushes and whatever, it rained pecan nuts directly onto their heads, which was great because none of them had eaten anything recently. So they just began squirrel maxing. Yeah, I would assume all these guys are like wearing quite ostentatious hats for the time. So it's just like collecting in the brim.
Starting point is 00:36:59 One time when I was doing field trading at Fort Lewis in the summertime, we stopped at a short halt. And I took a knee pulling security. There was a raspberry push right next to me. I was like, just reaching a, holding the M4 with one hand. And it was just like, everybody turns into a goblet at some point.
Starting point is 00:37:19 I know. And what you've just described is like, yeah, there's raining plenty. All you got to do is like, okay, can we have them fire a couple of candid shots at the peanut butter Eminem's tree as well.
Starting point is 00:37:33 The Mexicans are shelling them, but the whole time the Texans are, they're just catching handfuls of pecans and putting them in all of their fucking old worn out pockets. One guy's like, oh, fuck, why did I have to pull security under the charms tree? I'm not allowed to eat these. Tom, you don't get it. There were these shitty fake, like hard candies that you would get in MRIs. They were called charms. And it was like a folk legend thing with us in the army.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Like, if you opened them up, you were cursing your unit. And like, if you were in the field, you'd get rained on. so they weren't allowed to open them ever. If you ate charms on any tank I had ever been on, you'd get slapped around for it. There's a lot of weaknesses in the Texan army owing it to being a collection of frontier randos, but they did have a specific strength, marksmanship.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Texans were not armed with the standard brown best musket, like the Mexican soldiers were, and said they brought their own weapons. Many of them were Kentucky long rifles, probably the best rifle in the West at the time. And they began picking off Mexican artillerymen manning the two cannons. Consider this a retinette counter battery, if you will. And each time a new soldier ran for to man the cannon,
Starting point is 00:38:39 that got their skulls blown apart and just heard a chorus of, Yee-ha! The accurate long-range gunfire was enough to force Mexican soldiers to open fire from equally far distance with their muskets, which was far beyond their effective range. So for people who are not gunheads, like none of us here are gun people, but a musket is a smoothbore weapon, right, that has no spiral within the barrel to give it a twist that makes the bullet fly further, so to speak, make a very long story short. While a rifle does, so a rifle's range can be sometimes two times that of a musket. And so the Mexicans open fire with their brown best muskets from as far away as the rifles are firing. And the Texans, multiple Texans volunteers, right about feeling a doll slap against their body and looking down and just see they've been
Starting point is 00:39:32 hit by a musket ball. It wasn't a musket ball or like a pecan. Yeah. Like the musket balls hit them with the power to only bruise them at that distance. Yeah. I mean, it's the thing is that with also with rifled barrels, hence the term rifle rounds fired through rifled barrels. Also, not just the distance, but like they're more accurate at closer distances too. Like far more accurate. Muskets are basically like the principle of the potato gun that it's probably going to go kind of in the direction that you point it, but there's no guarantees of it being pinpoint. Like, obviously, nothing's perfect, but yeah, rifles are far more accurate. Which is why, like, a tactic for a musket-based military was a full volley in the general direction.
Starting point is 00:40:11 So, like, also it's firing out that black powder is basically like obscuration on your position at the same time. Well, it's not like the rifles had smokeless powder either. No, I know, but. Yeah, they were, it was much more likely for every time a Kentucky long rifle fired to drop a dude. I did find one very funny passage from a Texan volunteer that rose up on the other side of the hill to fire. I got smacked right in the balls with a musket ball. It didn't blow his dick and balls off for anything, but he was counted as wounded because he couldn't fight anymore. Ow, my balls!
Starting point is 00:40:45 Fighting for Texas, they blew apart my ball sack. Like, jib, he's just there like, what's going on? I got my dick in a literal sling afterwards. so I can heal. Just imagining, yeah, early 19th century fucking dick sling what that's going to look like.
Starting point is 00:41:04 A buoy ordered a detachment to reinforce them, but to remain behind the riverbank so as not to expose themselves to Mexican gunfire. However, Texans, you know, if you haven't picked up yet, they really like to ignore orders
Starting point is 00:41:18 that require them to stay away from fighting. So as one Texan unit ran to reinforce the sense, center because the Mexican forces trained very classical line fighting, which means firing a couple volleys and then charging to break the center, right? Simple enough. They start charging. Bowie has to order a unit to support the center. One guy decides, well, it's a lot faster if I just cross the top of the hill and run directly there. So there's this thing called silhouetting, which happens when you stand up with no background on a, say, a defensive parapet to gunfire, which means you
Starting point is 00:41:54 stick out more than any human being known to man. You're the human equivalent of having a glowing red box behind you like a boss fight. And one Texan does this. And every Mexican soldier on the battlefield immediately pivots and shoots at him.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Shooting him like dozens of times. He's the only Texan killed during the battle. Get my dick blown off by a Mexican called out of blunderbill see. Shut the fuck up. Now I bet you're probably thinking that once the Mexicans close the gap with the Texans, their advantage would switch.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Remember, these are Kentucky long rifles. They're for hunting. You can't mount a bayonet on them. Then they're going to lose because they have no hand-to-hand combat training. But not every Texan had a Kentucky rifle. In fact, there's probably less than half. The other half were armed with shotguns and whole bandaliers full of pistols. Like fucking Yosemite San.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Meaning as soon as the Mexican forces charged through a hail of shotgun pellets and then like several yehaws worth of wild pistol fire they broke and ran like fuck this Jesus yeah it's just like guys pulling out like the entire armament of fucking Captain Jack Sparrow heaters and pointing
Starting point is 00:43:07 to people just like a weird bent out of shape kind of guns fucked up guns guns guns with like you know bedazzled parrots carved into them or whatever like it's just you don't want that shot center mask hold out of a dead man's chest just Tom's just dropping, he's like the fourth, what, the fifth recording in two days.
Starting point is 00:43:25 So Tom's just decided he's going to drop bars the entire time. Yeah. Finally, the Mexicans began to flee and then the Texans countercharged. And when the Mexicans broke from the battlefield, they left behind one of their cannons, which the Texans then stole, spun around and began lighting them up with canister fire into their backs. Casualty rates here are all over the place, but it's thought that up to 70 Mexicans were killed in the fighting while one single Texan were killed. Seeing such a crushing victory, Austin was convinced that they should immediately go on the attack directly into San Antonio. He went as so far as to order it, but then his subordinate commander just like, no, that's stupid.
Starting point is 00:44:04 We're not doing that. As Texans scavenged amongst the Mexican dead, they found another good reason as to why they won that day and probably a better reason as to why musket balls are slapping against them like paintballs. The quality of the gunpowder that the Mexican soldiers had been issued was so bad that Texans compared it to quote, crushed charcoal. And despite burning through most of their powder in the battle, Bowie and his men refused to resupply off the dead men, worried that the shitty powder would ruin their guns. And they didn't even take the Mexican guns who dropped them.
Starting point is 00:44:36 They just like piled them all up. I always think sucked. While the siege of San Antonio wore on, Texas advances continued in other places. A detachment of volunteers left Goliad to take out a nearby Mexican fort at San Patricio, and just so happened to rock up to its gates small its 20 man garrison was actually out on patrol the nearby town so they just like walked in and squatted then the patrol returned the two sides shocked and surprised fired wildly at one another
Starting point is 00:45:05 until the mexicans decided fuck this and surrendered though weirdly enough inside that fort the texans found the former mexican governor of texas vieska he had been in prison there this whole time and he was like oh thank god you guys have liberated me i can go back to being governor of Texas. They all just kind of laughed at it. And we're like, no, homie. That ship has sailed. The shit's changed.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Situation's been updated, bro. We're under new management. That's where you're wrong, pal. This led to a huge blow-up between Texans and Thayanos in the area around Goliad. Remember, the Texans were not fighting for a Republic of Texas, at least not yet. Their entire thing was to be fighting for a federalist uprising against the centralist, for now, Santa Ana. Viesca was the federalist governor and Athanaoano, who's,
Starting point is 00:45:51 brother was the previous governor of Texas. It's safe to say that the non-Texan population, the Tejanoes, really liked him. So when the commander of Goliad, Philip Dimmit, refused to acknowledge as authority, something of a Goliad civil war erupted between the Texans and the Tejanos. They began ambushing one another, and many regional Tejano decided, fuck this and threw their lot in with Santa Ana, after having their governor rejected. If that wasn't enough to push them in that direction, then Dimmett's burning and looting of Tejano villages was probably a good reason. Small side note here, but eventually Austin heard what Dimmett did and fired him immediately and then invited Viesco back to the consultation, which had been postponed until November,
Starting point is 00:46:38 due to so many delegates volunteering for the army that they couldn't have a vote. Viesco did turn up, and then Austin and the Committee of Public Safety refused again to recognize him as governor. Meanwhile, with the siege, Austin demanded cause surrender in a letter, which caused returned without opening, with a little note on top saying it would be against his honor to take a letter from a rebel commander. Austin had reinforcements coming, including an 18-pounder cannon that had been captured somewhere else in Texas, that maybe was strong enough to breach San Antonio's walls. But he was worried about the siege, nonetheless. The stress of keeping an army in the field was a lot to ask of people who were not really soldiers.
Starting point is 00:47:19 especially as the weather began to get colder and rations began to get smaller. Texans came and went out of the army at will, and Austin was worried that he wasn't going to be able to keep his army together as long as it would take four reinforcements to get there, and then again, after that, long enough to take San Antonio via siege. Then things began to get a little weird. Austin, the elected commander of the people's army, didn't really seem like he could hold the weight of the position.
Starting point is 00:47:43 He kept putting the conduct of the siege to a vote with his subordinates, which is not something he needed to do. And to other officers, it read to them as he was being indecisive or maybe even cowardly. Men began to get restless and getting blind, drunk, and again, firing their weapons
Starting point is 00:48:01 at random intervals. Officers started doubting Austin as a commander. Bowie simply resigned and wandered away, as did others, while still other officers didn't resign and just went home. Other officers like William Travis just kind of ignored orders
Starting point is 00:48:15 and did whatever they wanted, all while the siege devolved into random firefights between different patrols in the night. Desertion became such a problem that Austin tried to mandate morning and evening roll calls, but people just ignored them. According to the Texian Iliad, by November 5th, all discipline broke down inside of the various volunteer units to the point that nobody was even sure of who was in charge of them anymore, and one man remarked, quote,
Starting point is 00:48:39 no good will be achieved by this army except by the merest accident under heaven. but one bright side was beginning to emerge for the Texans two months into the war the American volunteers were beginning to trickle over the border real reinforcements with a lot of money and a lot of guns however the Americans had no fucking idea what was going on in Texas
Starting point is 00:49:03 they had no understanding of let's say the Texan context here they rated communities without caring or knowing who live there including Texans Tejanos and Mexicans It's like, oh, thank God, the Americans are here just like gets shot in their shoulder. Like, oh, fuck. They're going to take my gourd.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Some of these volunteers had organized themselves into paramilitary units with adequate supplies, actual uniforms, and even experienced commanders, but probably the most well-known of these, is the New Orleans Graze. They were formed in New Orleans coffee shop and bankrolled by a German-born businessman named Adolphus Stern. Stern even managed to purchase a cannon
Starting point is 00:49:45 and send it with them in because America was really cool back then I'm going down to the hardware store I'm going to get me a cannon they're like this is from now on for time in memorial we're who they're going to think of when you talk about the Stern gang
Starting point is 00:49:59 just this guy showing up like the white version of Barrett from Final Fantasy the canon fused to his arm however there's a small problem when it came to the canon they dragged it all the way to Texas and then only they'd realize like,
Starting point is 00:50:14 oh shit, we forgot to pack ammo. So they just like left it in a ditch. Tom, I'm, for the listener, I'm not very well right now. I've got infinity toddler diseases. And Tom just basically made me think of Cush got me feeling like the white Barrett.
Starting point is 00:50:27 It's just like, I'm just going to be spun up on that forever now. Another bright spot on the organizational front was the fact that so many men had left the army that the consultation could officially take place. And the committee quickly went to work trying to draw some very confusing outlines for the rebellion. They made
Starting point is 00:50:45 their provisional government official, but as the provisional government of the Mexican state of Texas, within their envisioned federal Mexico. This is obviously to try to smooth things over with the Tejano population, but also a clear sign they didn't care that much because they elected a new governor,
Starting point is 00:51:01 Henry Smith, who is an avowed slave voter, racist, and Texan nationalists, who vocally said that Tejanoes have no place in Texas. So, No, nothing has changed. Nope! Austin finally resigned or was fired,
Starting point is 00:51:17 depending on which story you believe, as commander of the Texan army, and was given the assignment of effectively becoming the Texan ambassador to the United States. Smith then appointed Sam Houston to replace him, and for a lot of people, this would be the first time meeting Sam Houston, who did not cut an impressive figure.
Starting point is 00:51:37 As we already established, Houston had one hell of a track record in American policy, But since he left the U.S., he had dove head first into a bottle, and by all accounts looked like he lived exclusively out of a dumpster. He smelled so bad and looked so greasy that every single person in the Texas government remarked on it in their memoirs. According to some people, Houston spent most of his time at the consultation getting hammered with his close personal friend, Jim Bowie, who had staggered back into town after residing outside of San Antonio. Two guys you hate to see together. What's funny is, politically, they would hate one another. Jim Bowie has never seen a Native American he didn't want to kill,
Starting point is 00:52:17 while Sam Houston pretty much ruined his political career attempting to defend them. Politics makes strange bedfellows, but apparently the 19th century makes even stranger bedfellows. And in this case, literal bedfellows. Did we finally turn, Joe? Houston may have looked and smelled like a trash monster, but he fully understood the weakness of the movement. He and others in government point out that they needed an actual army, organized on standard lines, rather than a gaggle of volunteers who could leave whenever they wanted.
Starting point is 00:52:46 So they came up with an idea of a contracted professional army, supported by volunteers. Some men would serve for two years, while others would volunteer on a rotating basis until the end of the war. Since Texas was virtually broke at this point, they couldn't pay them, so they would be paid in land grants rather than money. Though this would all take time to build, and spoiler alert here, this army would never actually be made at all. But it was an idea. Austin was still sitting outside of San Antonio and was determined to end the siege before Houston came to replace him
Starting point is 00:53:14 in order to save some face. Mexican deserters told him that life inside San Antonio is getting pretty fucking bleak, giving Austin hope that he had a chance to close out the deal. So he wheeled his cannons into position and had his artillerymen go to work. Small problem though.
Starting point is 00:53:28 They don't actually have any artillerymen. They just had some guys. They had no trained artillerymen in the ranks. They were just kind of guessing as they opened fire. It's really funny because it's like so many times people doing like, you know, demonstration days accidentally pull on the fucking lanyard and fire. Hopefully not a real live round, you know, blank rounds, whatever. But it's like when you actually want to fuck around and find out how to shoot a cannon, you can never do it. It always requires at least one person who knows how to do it. Yep. Yep. Nowadays, you just watch a, you know, YouTube. Like have a guy bring a crate of degaratite plates with a dude like explaining how to fuck DIY camera fire. Just show up like yield YouTuber and like, and today we're going to show you how to use.
Starting point is 00:54:07 the field how it's sir. Yeah, exactly. He just basically what he sets up like an organ grinder thing with like a frame so it looks like you're watching a moving picture and he just sort of like gestures around. It's like basically a moving puppet show. And one of the puppets is doing the Mr. Beast face while pointing back at the canon.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Yeah, but the problem with doing that is when the canon gets to the point where the canon actually fires, everyone will freak out because I think it's real. What would Mr. Beast? They've been like Jebediah Beast. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Monson, your creature. But also that kind of implies it like in order to promote their educational entertainment and they have to drive with a wagon with painted canvas on the side of the guy doing the Uber driver sucked me off. Well, there was that guy in the last episode, they've old paint. So maybe that's how he got his name. Yeah, but there was also the guy. What was it like Lancelot Smithers? Yeah, Dr. Lancelot Smith. Dr. Lancelots. He didn't go to four years of Lancelot school to be called Mr. Yeah, Lancel is on our 30 and night who's really
Starting point is 00:55:05 deeply closeted at a 30 a night who would afford in time so he could live out his dreams of being a Texan slave owner. Now, men were literally betting with one another over who could hit what and bartering with musket balls because they had no money. According to Austin, none of them had a fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:55:21 But he ordered is meant to ready themselves for an attack anyway. But the men still refused. It was clear that if the siege was going to continue, even just long enough for Houston and his new regular army to march in, Austin was going to have to give up command because everybody had lost faith in him. So he did, and the men elected Colonel Edward Burleson to replace him.
Starting point is 00:55:40 He had served as a captain during the war of AT-12, but had seen very little combat, and was only elevated to the rank of colonel in Texas, owing to the fact that that limited amount of service was still more than most. Then Bowie, dead drunk, showed back up at the siege to take command of his detachment, something nobody opposed. Burleson at the time was in communication with Houston, and the two men were slowly coming to the realization that abandoning the siege and were to saved the volunteer army from imploding. It was probably the better idea. That was when scouts reported that Mexican reinforcement columns marching towards the city. Now, this is another game of telephone here. There was about a hundred or so dragoons. The men heard that. Then the
Starting point is 00:56:17 rumor mill began to go into overdrive. Soon the hundred dragoons were actually accompanied by a mule train of a hundred mules. And it did have a mule train, but it wasn't that large. But rather than carrying supplies for the San Antonio Garrison, which probably was, the men began to talk as carrying a stash of silver to pay them in inside. It's starting to be like some Pirates gold shit. Yeah. Yeah. It feels like this is just the thing that goes through history.
Starting point is 00:56:41 It's like dudes just start telling stories and then people think they're real. And that's why we have Turning Point USA. Had. Well, had. Yeah. Turning point did happen in the USA yesterday. Yeah. Well, I will say that this story about silver being in this mule train has more holes in
Starting point is 00:57:01 than Charlie Kirk We made it two episodes We did so well Yeah, we're recording on the greatest of American days 9-11 and Charlie Kirk is dead Yep Burleson ordered Bowie and his men
Starting point is 00:57:19 to scat out the column to see what they were doing whether they were preparing to head towards town or preparing to attack the Texans Above all else, Bowie was ordered not to attack the column He was a scout, due a scouting mission. But that did not matter. Once the volunteers saw Bowie and his men riding out,
Starting point is 00:57:37 they assumed they were going to attack against that column full of silver. And if they didn't go with them, they'd miss that on the booty. So, fuck it. And everybody started chasing after Bowie. Then Bowie also ignored orders and immediately ordered a charge on the column. As they were butchering one another, costs from inside San Antonio saw what was happening and ordered his infantry to move into reinforce the dragoons.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Bowie ordered his men to fall back to a dry creek bed, and once anchored in there, the Mexicans counterattacked, but again, the long range of the Texan rifles broke up the attack, and eventually they fell back into San Antonio. That left the mule train. The Texans fell onto it, ripping all the crates apart, expecting to find sweet, sweet loot, but instead found that the wagons were just full of grass for the Mexican horses, leading to the Texans to jokingly refer to the battle as the grass fight. The siege would drag on until December, and another refusal by the officers in command to attack San Antonio when it was proposed by Burleson. This time the men damn near mutinied. They demanded an attack. Others said that if they weren't going
Starting point is 00:58:40 to attack, they would simply go towards Matamoros in Mexico and attack there. Still others, several hundred said fuck this and went home. So after seven weeks, Burleson ordered that the volunteers would return to Goliad and camp for the winter. The siege, would end. That was until our favorite thicket monster Ben Millam reappeared from a scouting mission. Despite Burleson's orders, Millim told everybody, no, we're not doing that. We got to keep the siege up. Burleson contested that he was in command and Millim said he didn't care. He would take volunteers himself and assault San Antonio. Burleson, feeling he was about to lose all control, caved and said, Millim could recruit enough volunteers. He would keep the rest of the army back here
Starting point is 00:59:24 to cover him should shit go sideways. 300 men, more than half of the army, volunteered to go with Millam. He organizes force into two columns and enlisted the help of three guys, Eurastis Smith, who, due to him being deaf, had earned the very creative nickname, Death, and his son-in-law,
Starting point is 00:59:42 Hendrik Arnold, who was actually a freed slave. And another guy, Jesus Queller, a former Mexican army officer turned deserter and now scout for the Texans. This is put together the dream. dream team. These are like, you know, random NPCs that you would meet in Red Dead 2.
Starting point is 00:59:59 That's fucking absolutely correct. Eurasic Smith, aka death. I mean, that also kind of sounds like you created Texian mayhem. Yeah, uh, Euras,
Starting point is 01:00:13 the Smith all before he would have scouting missions also breathed in a bag with a dead dove in it. Yeah, but that was normal back then. They didn't have deodorant. Yeah, it was perfume. At this point, the Mexican forces under
Starting point is 01:00:24 cost had split, sitting a group to the nearby Alamo mission. So they would need to pin them in place while they attack on San Antonio commenced. The volunteers rolled cannons into place and began to hammer the alamo, hoping to keep the soldiers there undercover, but also distract everyone to thinking that the Alamo was their primary target, while the main assaulting force moved closer to San Antonio. This worked perfectly. The assaulting force was so undetected by the Mexican centuries in San Antonio that they were mostly just huddled around fires on the perimeter not really paying attention, that the Texans walked right by them and didn't even bother to shoot them thinking that if they would alert the soldiers inside the town.
Starting point is 01:01:01 The two columns advanced 200 meters from San Antonio's town square without resistance. They literally just walked inside. However, once there, they ran right into Mexican cannons and began pumping canister shot into them. The volunteers turned, broke into nearby homes for cover, beginning what would turn into four days of brutal frontier urban combat, which was something weirdly enough that the Texans end up being really good at. The riflemen quickly climbed the roofs of the houses. And these were traditional Mexican homes that all had a parapet on top, which happened to be perfect to set up sniping nests
Starting point is 01:01:37 with your rifles. It's just wild because it's like, yeah, you think of, you know, dust, dust bunnies and saguaro cacti and it's just a really, you know, quiet, desolate desert. And instead it's like, no, we're doing military operations in urban terrain, except it's the city from Apocalypto. With my eight-foot-long rifle. Yeah, it's just like stupid log rifle, just full-od like fucking the cruiser rifle because it's meant to shoot elephants. I brought my punt gun, boys. And other men armed with shotguns and pistols crashed through doors and assaulted Mexican
Starting point is 01:02:08 soldiers at close range. I'm going to throw this one out there to start to interrupt you, Joe, that much like the weird long-ass cars that become the car that like the penguin drives in the Batman movies, when a gun is really long, much like when a car is. really long. It's codes that's both weirdly horny and stupid at the same time. Yeah. I hope I'm not going too far out on a limb here. But the idea of like, the gun
Starting point is 01:02:26 is just dumb, long, and you're swinging around. There's something pre-apic about it. I don't know why. They're just trying to impress all the horses. No, you're trying to shame all the horses. That's right. You're right. My bad. This is how weird it looks when your huge dick sticks out. I forgot. We're trying to train horses via shaming.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Oh, yeah. We're trying to make horses self-conscious. We're trying to make them doubt themselves. I'm giving horses body dysmorphia. We're doing reverse psychology and shaming people with big cocks. It's like, oh yeah, look at you over there with your big dick. I mean, that is literally the whole of like
Starting point is 01:02:59 the myth of preemphis and the fucking Greek mythology that it's like just, you know, vulgar and ridiculous where it's like a well, a dignified man has a tiny penis. The Greeks, man, they were on something completely different. Everybody knows the true Texan revolutionary heroes were all sporting
Starting point is 01:03:15 micropines. Yeah, you're a really uncomfortable skinny jeans, aren't you, fucking baggy pants? The Mexicans had turned some houses into what were effectively block houses by reinforcing them. And in order to break into them, Texans took over the rooftops
Starting point is 01:03:32 and began hacking through the ceiling with axes, having no idea how far they were going to fall when they broke through. After more than one man dropped several stories and broke their legs in a room full of enemies, the Texans instead deployed blankets so they could lower men in, dual wielding pistols
Starting point is 01:03:48 and shotguns. So I guess this is history's first air assault? At least America's first air assault. But by the fourth day, it had rained so much that virtually no man had any dry powder left, so the battle grinded on with hand-to-hand weapons. This went until December 10th, when Koss ordered his subordinate Sanchez Navarro to ride into town and attempt to parlay with the Texans. A few hours later, the Texans came to terms of surrender. The Mexicans, still inside of San Antonio, would be allowed to leave for the Alamo, where they would be allowed to leave, get their shit together, treat their wounded before packing everything up, and further retreating into the Mexican interior, where the Texans promised they would be safe during their journey.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Men from the San Antonio area or Tejano's in Mexican service were simply allowed to go home, and every soldier was forced to swear an oath not to violate the Mexican constitution. With causes retreat and the Texan victory at San Antonio, it meant there was no organized Mexican army remaining in Texas. But that did not mean the war was over as much as the Texans kind of thought it was. And that is we'll pick up on part three
Starting point is 01:04:56 of the Texas Revolution. Yee ha! Yee ha! I'm not doing it. I'm from the north. Do it. We got the Irish guy doing it. Yeehaw.
Starting point is 01:05:07 There we go. Yeah, y'ha, indeed. Yeha. Yeah. There is a country song from the 90s where there's like the sort of ironic, flatly delivered. yehah. I don't know what song it is.
Starting point is 01:05:17 If you can remember, let me know, because I'm struggling here. I mean, like, yihar is just like the Texas version of saying, al-hounda really lately. No, I'm just, Joe, this is, I can't believe it, man. How are you, how we're just abandoning any kind of sense of regional pride in our own identity? Like, we
Starting point is 01:05:33 should be saying whoop-whoop, you know that. Like, when we eventually do something more on the Midwest, we will go back to whoop-whoop. I mean, a guy with fucked up weird dirty hair and dreadlocks swinging a fucking cleaver. would fit in with what we've just described with the Texans. Put them in buckskins and they'll be able to tell
Starting point is 01:05:49 the difference. Exactly, yes. Same amount of alcohol consumption. It's similar quality and purity. What you see you have there is a Kentucky long rifle. What I brought is called a catalytic converter. Thank you very much for coming to my side show. I want to tell you all
Starting point is 01:06:05 about a good friend of mine called the Great Melancho. I believe the Texas Revolution should be formed around the political ideology of the Dark Carnival. I know that many of y'all enjoy smoking of the heathen Indians tobacco, but I've got a thing that I've discovered in the field as though I should introduce to y'all is called K2.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Methanphetamine. I'm going to whip shitty on this horse where I'm grinding my teeth into dust. Whipping shitties on a horse. That's just, that's just just just cantering. Let's just do horse training. The problem is when you externalize it from horse. You can whip shitties on a horse and it's normal, but a vehicle shouldn't do that. If you do it too fast as a horse,
Starting point is 01:06:44 their legs all just break and flop around like an octopus. Or it has like, I don't know, I just do it too fast on a horse that it becomes like centrifugal force and therefore their legs just go sideways. Once again, we're coming back to rotating a horse. Slowly rotating a horse with a jungle o' at top. Whoop, yay! Yay, whoop!
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