Lions Led By Donkeys Podcast - Episode 48 - Easter Rising Part 2: The Provisional Irish Republic
Episode Date: April 29, 2019On Part 2 of the Easter Rising Home Rule is put on hold while Irish Republicans remember the words of Wolfe Tone: Launch an uprising while the British Empire is distracted fighting a foreign enemy. ...Support Dogs For the Disabled: https://dogsfordisabled.ie Buy your very own Irish Republic shirt: https://teespring.com/shop/easter-rising-1916?tsmac=recently_viewed&tsmic=recently_viewed#pid=2&cid=566&sid=front Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/lionsledbydonkeys Follow us on twitter @lions_by
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I was born on a dimpling street where the liled rums did beat
And those loving English feet they walked all over us
And every single night when me da would come home tight
He'd invite the neighbours out with his chorus
Come out you black and tans, ship-legging tans
Come out and fight me like a man
Show your wife how you won medals down in Flanders
Tell her how the IRA made you run like hell away
From the green and lovely lanes of Kilishandra
Come let us hear you tell How you slandered great Parnell
when you thought him well and truly persecuted.
Where are the sneers and jeers that you loudly let us hear?
Hello.
Skish, skish, skish.
Welcome to another episode of Lions Led by Donkeys.
Joe. Nick. Nick. Yes. Hello, welcome to another episode of Lions Led by Donkeys. I'm Joe, and this is Nick, and we are still in this room talking about the Irish Rising of 1916.
And unlike most of our other series, we're doing this back to back, so we're still here, we're still drinking.
I hope you're ready. Shit's about to get weird.
Is it?
Eh, weirder. People start to get shot. People got shot last time. People's about to get weird. Is it? Eh, weirder.
People start to get shot.
People got shot last time.
People did get shot last time.
Yeah.
So more people get shot.
Oh, way more people.
Oh, fuck.
Thank God Superman's here.
A cardboard cutout.
I'm actually going to expand.
So when you're gone, if I have a guy on,
I'll put Superman. If I have a girl on, I'll put fucking Supergirl
on. I don't know.
So I have a
host. Cardboard cut out of
Leica. He looks good over there.
He's looking alright. I don't know.
He's a fucking lazy piece of shit.
Last time he was on, he never even said anything.
Yeah. Weak Nick.
So when we left you last week,
the third Irish Home Rule Bill
passed, the Irish Parliament
and the United Kingdom found
themselves in the middle of the Great War.
The wolves came out of the den.
But, fuck the
Great War, the Irish can finally rule themselves, right?
They got Home Rule, right?
Yeah, that's it. End of the episode. Thanks for tuning tuning in of fucking course they didn't nothing ever goes our way no
and you know what things are just so much worse when the british and the irish are involved like
this could not get any dumber and the british like allow me good sir yeah you can they
affix
two monocles
not glasses
two monocles
and then they quickly
get around to
fucking shit up
nice
monopoly man
so at the same time
all this is happening
British Prime Minister
H.H. Asquith
sent a bill
to the king
for what is known
as a royal assent
that's a good name
to start off with
Asquith
alright
let's keep going think of a royal assent as's a good name to start off with ask with all right let's keep going um think
of a royal assent as just like a he says sign it okay because at this point the king's not actually
supposed to be in charge but because of old-timey stupid rules he still has to sign a bill okay um
he struck a deal with the tories in parliament. Fuck, you went over Tories last episode.
Yep.
Conservatives.
Okay.
Yeah, don't worry.
You should probably forget all this
because British politics are dumb.
Okay.
Will do.
But I feel like British politics
is the only politics on Earth
that make ours seem almost normal,
but also really dumb.
Theirs is really confusing to me.
It's all fucking stupid.
I'm just ready for the heat death of the universe.
Let those lizard people come rule us.
Yes.
They're going to come out a rainier.
Yeah, I hope so.
We still have IPAs.
That's true.
And good weed.
So the conservatives in parliament struck a deal with Asquith.
So they could send another bill.
So they could just focus on the fucking war.
Because everybody knew that home rule, something was going to happen.
Like somebody was going to get shot.
Something stupid was going to happen.
And now they have to fight the war to end all wars.
They need to focus.
They keep their eye
on the prize.
Unfortunately for the Irish,
that bill was called
the Suspensory Act of 1914.
Now, there's another part
of that bill
that had to do with
disestablishment
and the Welsh church,
which isn't important
to our story.
But, you know,
send love out
to our Welsh listeners.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Do we have any Welsh listeners?
I don't know.
Let us know.
I'd like to know.
We have a surprisingly
high number of Danish fans.
What's up, guys?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah, I don't know
how to say hello in Danish.
We did have a Danish character
last episode.
I don't know character.
No.
Person.
Just Denmark. We just talked about Denmark for like five seconds. No, no, no. I don't know character. No. Person. Just Denmark.
We just talked about Denmark
for like five seconds.
No, no, no.
I'm talking about the female,
the Danish.
Can't remember her name.
She's part of the Lord of the Houses.
Fuck.
Scones.
God damn it.
Keep going.
You know what?
Don't even edit that out.
Leave that in.
Fuck it. No. Don't edit anything out. that in fuck it no i don't edit anything why
would a danish person be in the british house of lords i'm not talking about a danish person i'm
talking about somebody with a danish in their name that has to do with first of all a scone
is not a danish you goddamn monster they're exactly which is why i had to correct myself
yeah and i said scone next thing you call're going to call it Baroness of Crawler. You fucking monster.
Baroness of Crawler.
Those are good.
Now I just need a whole parliament of donuts and pastries.
First of all, I want to get one now.
Second of all, keep going.
All right.
I'm ready.
So, the Spensatory Act of 1914 had only one section in it and it read, quote, no steps will be taken to put the Government
of Ireland Act into operation.
Now the Government of Ireland Act was Home Rule
as the actual law was called.
The King not only signed the Government
of Ireland Act, but also
signed the Suspensatory Act.
Meaning he both approved and then took away
Irish Home Rule literally the same day.
What the fuck?
He's like, oh, fucking licks his quill.
Congratulations.
And also go fuck yourself.
Yes.
Which is like the most kingly move you can do.
If you think that this would cause a massive clusterfuck in Ireland, you would be surprisingly wrong.
Did they not give a fuck?
It's not that they didn't give a fuck.
It's that, so I know you were kind of young.
Yes.
Not back then, but like during 9-11, you were kind of young.
Yes.
For the most part, on the outside,
now the Americans are always awful and racist towards one another,
but for the most part, American society all kind of came together.
Right? Because of Alan Alan Jackson he helped us out
who the fuck is Alan Jackson he came
up with country songs and shit like
which one was his there's so many at a time
did we forget
yeah have we
forgotten remember when
oh god they're all
so bad
but that was kind of what world war one did to ireland kind
of sorta really yeah um both the nationalists and the unions supported the war effort this went even
for the militias um commander of the ulster volunteer force edward carson urged his men
to enlist in the army and fight on the mainland
to prove their loyalty to england irish volunteer force was not nearly as united as their ulster
enemies john rudman who was an irish politician and moderate member of the irish parliament party
who kind of began to build some power within the IVF. He brought a lot of people with him
because most relatively fringe organizations,
when they start to moderate,
they'll get a larger support base.
He urged members of the IVF to enlist in the British Army.
Not that he wanted to prove their loyalty to England
because he really did think fighting Germany
was in the best interest of Ireland.
Mostly because he thought, you fighting Germany was in the best interest of Ireland. Mostly because
he thought you have
the British Empire on one side that they're calling
themselves the United Kingdom and you have the German
Empire on the other. Where the fuck does it leave
Ireland? Tiny little Ireland in the middle
of the fucking ocean.
We have to fight for the ability for small
countries to survive.
That's what he thought. They would end up actually
fighting in the trenches of the Western Front side by side
with Ulster volunteers.
And that's where the good news ends.
Oh, what?
Okay.
This split put the Irish Republican Brotherhood firmly and effectively in control of what
remained of the IVF, which is still 13,500 men.
You made me feel good there for a second.
I mean, there is kind of a good, I mean, say which will, the Kaiser fucking sucked.
Yeah.
I mean, we got to go crush empires and shit,
but then a whole bunch of bad stuff happened.
There is...
You know, I really wish that if you just took England
out of the equation completely, like,
yes, these two completely different religions
banded together and fought off the German Empire.
The end. Nothing bad
happened ever again. There certainly
wasn't civil wars and shit.
Nothing ever happened again. Yeah, but
unfortunately, we live in the real world. Yes.
It turns out that the Irish Republican Brotherhood
had not forgot the tactics
of Wolfe Tone. Yes.
I've never, I haven't forgotten.
I'll never forget Wolfe Tone. So, the IRB. I haven't forgotten. I'll never forget Wolftone.
Bow-chicka-bow-wow.
So the IRB Supreme Council.
Put your pants back on, please.
Absolutely not.
They met in September 1914
and decided they would act
while the British Army
was away fighting in the trenches.
They would, however,
need some help.
Roger Casement
was one of the guys
who helped smuggle weapons
with the yacht. And also, side note, total fucking badass. Roger Casement was one of the guys who helped smuggle weapons with the yacht and also side note
total fucking badass Roger Casement
was one of the people who helped
expose King Leopold
the second of Belgium's
Congo free state crimes
yeah like he literally
how? he literally so he actually
never went there he just noticed like
the only thing Belgium is
sending out is guns.
This dude's fucking awesome.
Roger Caseman's a bad motherfucker for being a journalist.
Um,
probably a double O.
Oh,
he's a bad motherfucker.
Like he's probably a double O.
He's like a journalist who also definitely has a body count.
Definitely a double O then.
so he made contact.
He fucks.
Oh,
Roger Caseman fucks. Nice. Just like Wolf. Oh, I He fucks. Oh, Padraig Casement fucks.
Nice, just like Wolf.
I fucking love this.
He made contact with the Imperial German ambassador to the United States
to start talking about German support for the uprising.
Obviously, Germany did not give a fuck about Irish freedom.
Okay.
That much doesn't really need to be said.
They were a pawn.
They just wanted to fuck the British.
The Germans actually attempted to do much of the same thing in India with much less success.
Really?
Yeah.
What?
Casement eventually got invited back to Germany.
And by November, the Germans openly announced their support for an independent Ireland.
But?
They did it just because they obviously liked the British.
Yeah, they just wanted to fuck the British. I mean, they fighting the british in the most devastating war in human history at that point
right i see where they're going yeah but casement was not done by this point where the first british
armies at the front had already seen a lot of fighting resulting in a lot of pows being held
by the germans like this is after the battle of Frontiers, you know, shit like that.
Casement saw no better place for a recruitment rally
than a German POW camp.
He separated the Irish prisoners
away from everybody else
and attempted to rally them together
to form something
of a free Irish brigade.
It turns out...
The Irish got a lot of shit going on.
Well, it turns out
Casement finally found
his limit of what he was good at
because he only recruited
about 56 dudes out of thousands. That's great. No, it turns out Casement finally found his limit of what he was good at because he only recruited about 56 dudes
out of thousands.
That's great. No, keep your hands up. I'm at
56. No, that's everybody.
Do I see you at 57?
I'm pretty sure
56? Alright.
Good enough. Casement and
a few other IRB members planned out
an entire fucking plan
for the German invasion, which
was dubbed the Ireland Report.
The plan depended on an Irish uprising
in Dublin, diverting British soldiers
away so the Kaiser's army could land
on the west coast and march toward the river
Shannon. The Germans were like,
nah, nah, I'm good, bro. We'll just give you guns.
Okay.
That's kind of weird.
It's kind of weird. Theish do a complete 180 on this later on but the the the rising definitely the backbone of that was the imperial german military
that's fucking awesome yeah now well that's an imagination now here's another interesting part
at the same time all this is happening with the irB. Remember the ICA? James Conley? Yes, I do.
Conley wants a fucking uprising now.
And Conley... Fucking smacks table.
Fuck yeah.
Remember, the IVF has about 13,000 dudes under their command.
Conley has about 200.
Fuck yeah, let's go.
And Conley's like, fuck it, I'm doing it anyway.
Yeah.
And...
Cops fighting in the background.
Still punching themselves.
And so,
uh,
finally Conley went to him.
He's like,
look,
I'm going to go fucking start some shit,
which will put you in the position to be forced to do some shit.
Cause the Brits are just start shooting at all.
Us.
This dude's a fucking badass.
Conley's a bad motherfucker.
Love him.
So he was a socialist organizer,
but at the same time,
like his big,
his big thing for,
um,
going back to Ireland because,
you know,
socialism,
international socialism wasn't supposed to be a nationalist thing.
Um,
and when other socialists bad mouth them for it, and he's simply said,
well,
they forget that I'm Irish.
And then he went back to fighting.
Uh,
and the IRB talked to Conley like,
whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down.
Join us.
We all do this together.
Don't go off on your own.
And Conley's like, yeah, fuck it.
All right, let's do this.
Because Conley kind of saw them all as bougie pricks.
Now, Conley had spent most of his life organizing labor unions,
fighting strike breakers,
getting a literal fucking fist
feist with the cops this why he should why isn't there a movie i don't know that's awesome um he
was a bad fucking guy and he he kind of was never really involved the irb up until that point because
then they gave him a part in the military council um but he still thought of them all as bougie pricks
they're all like yeah they're all uh most of them are former military officers shit like that
um but the irb thought conditions were not quite right for a rising and they weren't entirely wrong
the everyday leadership of the ivf only support the idea of a rising if the British tried to take their weapons or introduce
conscription into Ireland, which they had not
done yet.
People still supported the Great War.
Even the chief of staff of the
volunteers, Ewan McNeil,
only supported the idea that the British
took away Home Rule for good
rather than just suspending it.
One of the founding
members of the IRB,
Jeremiah O'Donovan Rossa,
died while living in exile in the US.
His body was sent home to Ireland
and a man named Patrick Pierce,
or Pierce, one of the two.
I'm going to go with Pierce,
was chosen to give his graveside eulogy.
Pierce, not sure what to say,
asked the IRB how far he should go and tom clark one of the leading members of the irb said make it hot as hell so make it hot as
hell like spit hot fire okay waiting for ross's body to be put in the ground and pierce began
to do just that, saying, quote,
we only know one definition of freedom in Ireland.
It's Tone's definition.
It's Mitchell's definition.
It's Ross's definition.
His speech made it very clear that there would not only be an armed struggle for Ireland,
but it would be soon.
He closed with this, quote,
they think they have pacified Ireland.
They think that they have purchased half of us and intimidated the other half.
They think they have foreseen everything.
They think they have provided against everything.
But they're fools.
They're fools.
They're fucking fools.
They have left us Arfinian dead.
While Ireland holds these graves, Ireland unfree shall never be at peace.
Fuck yeah, dude.
The speech turned many people to the side of the IRB.
And so for people, I've not brought this up before.
Finian, kind of another word for Irish Republican Brotherhood.
Not going to go into it.
Okay.
Think of the two as connected.
And a rising for Easter began to be planned.
Slowly but surely, they began to win over the IVF commanders
to their side.
But they also decided not to tell their commanders
about the plans.
They didn't really,
they weren't sure who they could trust.
Look of confusion.
Oh, okay.
They wanted an Easter Rising,
but at the same time,
they knew a lot of people,
they may have been whipped up
by Ross's graveside eulogy, but they weren't ready the same time they knew a lot of people they may have been whipped up by the ross's by ross's
graveside eulogy um but they used they weren't ready to start pulling triggers on people
did he write that speech yes okay i thought he just did it right there like he was like
in the moment no he spit hot fire man that's that was pretty good there's five greatest
rappers in ireland pierce pierce pierce Pierce, Pierce and Pierce because he spits out fire.
Nice. I got a little
chub going. It's nice.
You want to see it? I'm showing you.
Put it away.
Look at it.
That's saying an Ireland
unfree shall never be at peace
continues to be a centerpiece
on Republican
dissident murals in Northern Ireland
to this fucking day.
To this day.
One of the people
that the IRB decided not to tell
about the rising was their chief of
staff, McNeil.
And eventually,
McNeil found out about the rising.
He said
he's going to cancel it. And he sent out orders saying as He said he's going to cancel it.
And he sent out orders saying as much.
He's going to cancel it?
So, I mean, he's technically the chief of staff.
Now, the IRB, to plan this, they didn't just put an ad out in the news.
They were like, hey, bro, coup tomorrow.
Show up at noon.
They put it out as a parade or a gathering or a demonstration.
Like, we're all just going to get together, which is not uncommon.
Parades are the shit.
Yeah.
So he put out that it was going to be canceled, saying, quote,
there will be no waste of life for which I am directly responsible.
And that was when McNeil found out he wasn't really in charge of anything anymore.
So, fun fact, parades were the only time I was able to get donuts as a kid.
I'm going to need more info on that. Why?
I don't know.
Your family had a
parade-centric food.
I don't know, actually. It's really
weird. Now I get donuts probably
once a weekend in the morning.
I'm not a big fan of donuts.
Honestly, it's probably why I like it so much.
Maybe.
Because maple donuts are the shit.
I fucking love maple donuts.
Maple bars.
Oh, man.
So good.
I don't get people's addiction to crack and heroin and everything,
but I get the maple bars.
They're so fucking good.
That makes me understand substance abuse
every time I buy a new maple bar.
God.
Oh, I see it.
Fuck.
I'm going to put this bitch in a spoon
and inject it in my fucking neck.
Just a chunk of fucking pastry in your neck.
Oh, man.
But yeah,
considering my dad was a cop back in the day,
yeah, I never got donuts.
Maybe that's why.
Maybe that was exactly why.
Yeah, maybe that's why.
Okay.
Continue.
So that's when McNeil found out he was no longer in charge of the IVF.
The IRB pointed out that fuck him, we're in charge, not you.
And besides, it was too late to back down.
We're in too deep, man.
So what did he do?
McNeil sent out a letter saying, hey, fuck you.
Nobody get together on easter um
now at the same time the german imperial navy had dispatched this ship now it was under the
cover of like a norwegian ship called like the ard but everybody knew it was the fucking imperial
navy everybody knew it yeah like they did not like like British intelligence was on it like since day one.
They're not good at these things.
Tens of thousands of rifles was on board.
Yeah, we're Norwegian,
but we just really like the Kaiser.
There's tens of thousands of rifles.
You have a lot of pictures of the Kaiser
and German flags up everywhere.
And millions of rounds of ammo.
They knew once it hit shore,
the British would not only know about it,
but it would make like,
it's like the Rube Goldberg project
where the marble falls down
and starts a whole chain reaction.
The British know that you're just stockpiling weapons.
Like there's something's going to happen.
I'm so glad I heard you right.
Because for some reason in my head,
I heard RuPaul project.
And I was thinking-
That would make this whole thing way more interesting.
Like everybody, like instead of-
I really liked that show.
Imagine if every war was decided by, like, a drag queen show.
Sausage away.
Yeah.
Do a spin move.
Oh, and we surrender.
Okay.
Okay.
War in Afghanistan's over.
Now, sausage away.
Yep.
McNeil sighed when he was told about this whole plan.
He's like, this is when he finally found out about the weapons.
Like, dude, you can't fucking back out.
The goddamn Kaiser's sending over tens of thousands of rifles.
We're in too deep, man.
Hey, we're already committed, man.
And that's when McNeil said, quote,
if I have to fight or be oppressed, I suppose I'm going to fight.
Which is like the participation trophy for guerrilla war. I suppose I'm going to fight. Which is like the participation trophy for guerrilla war.
I suppose.
And then Tom Kelly, an alderman and member of Sinn Fein,
which is like a political party off to the side here.
Also very well connected to the IRB and the Finian movement.
Just know that they're on the same side.
That's all that's important to you.
Okay.
Gave the IRB a memo that he said leaked
from Dublin Castle, which was the
headquarters of the British administration of Ireland.
The memo said the British
army was about to arrest the leading members of the IRB
and seize all the IVF's weapons.
Uh-oh. The memo
terrified everybody, and soon,
even the most moderate members of the command structure
went over to the side of the uprising.
The memo, now known as the Castle
Document, was a total fake.
Ah, they didn't look
at the font. The font was wrong. The memo was
a fake. The British did have orders
to do something like this
if conscription was put
into place, which it had not been.
But somebody
got the template for that memo
holy fuck and just spread
it everywhere like look what the British are gonna do
and then
now the IRB
that's what I ask every fucking week
we got the template for this shit
now the IRB military council knew
this was fake and was like
got an idea and so they spread it to
everybody to scare everybody rolled with it
that's that's pretty good and quickly their plan fell to shit because the german ship carrying all
their weapons had been tracked by british intelligence since day one yeah the norwegian
german ship that fucking tricked me yeah god damn it good fucker. Now, to make matters worse,
the IRB had not actually got the time right for the drop-off,
so when the German ship showed up,
there was nobody there to fucking pick it up.
They're just sitting there at the port like... And then the Royal Navy showed up.
Oh, fuck.
So the German commander just sunk the bitch.
Just in the port like...
What if he stayed with the ship like fucking George Clooney
I picture like
the perfect storm like George Clooney just
chilling in the ship
god damn it just in the port
but it doesn't sink all the way
yeah it sticks out like
fuck now with the weapons gone
McNeil went back to his old stance of not
wanting to fight
and once again he sent an order to all volunteers printing in the newspaper sending out runners and
they else canceling a volunteer muster that had been planned for the easter this guy just thinks
he has canceling abilities yeah i don't feel like he's picked up on the fact he's not actually in
charge anymore like he's just basically kind of like no it gets one worse than that british intelligence did more than just track the
arms shipment they actually knew everything due to the fact that the germans were talking to
their ambassador in the u.s which had been acting as a good between for germany and the irb and
the british actually had american and German communications completely tapped, even though Americans were not involved in the war yet.
They knew about the planned uprising on Easter, the arms shipment and everything else.
Holy fuck.
Tapped?
Oh, yeah.
Now, when this intelligence and information was sent to the undersecretary of Ireland, Sir Matthew Nathan, it was given to him without
telling him what the sources were, because it's generally bad practice to go on telling
everybody that you've been listening on your enemy's radio traffic or your ally's radio
traffic or anything, just like, hey, look, we got this, don't ask questions.
Because of that, Nathan didn't really trust the info.
Nathan still proposed, however, arresting the leadership of the IRB,
raiding headquarters
of the Citizens Army.
Fuck, this is not looking good.
But he's undersecretary.
He couldn't act without the approval of the
secretary, Augustine Burrell,
who was away on vacation to London.
So he wired away for
approval.
That approval would not come before Easter.
It would actually come two hours after the uprising began.
Whoops.
Meanwhile, the IRB sent out conflicting orders to volunteers to muster on Easter once again,
going against McNeil.
Conflicting?
Yeah.
Okay.
So McNeil was sending out-
The canceling, like he's like-
Stay at home.
And the IRB, who is now in control of the IVF,
was saying, everybody fucking show up.
Hide Easter eggs with your family.
Yes.
The Easter eggs are against the door.
The chair is the Easter eggs.
Show up with your rifle.
Shoot British people.
I don't know what to do.
Our cipher sucks.
The muster, of course, was the start of an uprising unfortunately on the
morning of april 24th significantly less people showed up because they were following mcneil
orders to stay at home oh fucking horseshit but still around 1200 people showed up around
dublin once a good amount once they gathered they fanned out across city capturing key points
throughout they set up barricades throughout the street and began to fortify their positions
they cut off transportation routes communication wires wherever they could fucking police are still fighting at
their station oh they come out too fighting some units of volunteers began digging trenches through
the streets all waiting for the british to get their shit together now the main thrust of the
rising was toward the general post office led by connelly and his Irish citizens army with Connolly and four other members of the middle military council,
including Patrick Pierce.
Uh,
they took over the post office.
Pierce took to the steps of the post office and proclaimed the birth of the
Irish Republic and rose the Irish tricolor above the building.
Now the Irish Republican,
um,
uh,
proclamation of,
of their country, incredibly progressive for the time universal suffrage um complete equal rights for everybody catholic or protestant um everything
like that who doesn't like that uh turns out british ass One, can I also point out, who's playing Connolly in the movie?
Ooh, that's a good question.
Now, he doesn't look as heroic as you think.
He kind of a bit on the overweight side of the full mustache.
Okay, but I didn't know that, so Ryan Gosling.
Ryan Reynolds.
We're going with Ryan Reynolds.
Ryan Reynolds.
I feel like that's a biased opinion. He needs an Irish accent. That's really biased. He needs an Irish accent. I know. We'll go with Ryan Reynolds. Ryan Reynolds? Ryan Reynolds. I feel like that's a biased opinion.
He needs an Irish accent.
That's really biased.
He needs an Irish accent.
I know who you're going with.
I feel like I know who you would go with.
I don't remember his name.
I think I know who you're going with, too.
Who?
Black hair.
Fucking.
You're naming every Irishman.
That's not true.
I think he was in the movie SWAT.
No? I don't know.
All this needs to be cut out. This is terrible.
It can stay in.
There needs
to be a movie either way. God damn it. He was in
the fucking Harry Potter movie.
He was.
He's literally the only Irish
actor I can think of off the top of my head.
Is it Colin?
Colin Farrell!
Yes!
Yes!
High five.
We'll do it later.
This table's kind of long.
That's what she said.
The British commander of Ireland was actually on leave in England,
and the guy he left in charge was gone and nobody could find him.
Eventually, an officer was located at colonel cowan who had no fucking
idea what was going on he was getting like confused conflicting reports of random armed
irish people like storming the post office and another group seizing a biscuit factory
somebody's not getting their mail somebody's not getting good biscuits i don't see the problem with
this before you came over to my house to record today,
I told you to pick up a certain brand of whiskey, right?
Yes.
What brand was that?
I didn't have to pick any up because I had some at the house.
Okay.
I don't know what that says about me, but I guess it's Jameson, I hope.
Jameson.
So, which brings us to a main fighting position that the volunteers picked out,
the Jameson Distillery in Dublin.
Ooh.
So, this one is triple distilled. So I
imagine they had triple the defense.
That's right. Yes.
Yes. The Jameson Distillery
in Dublin was a fighting position
during the Easter. That is fucking awesome.
Holy shit.
So Colonel Cowan sent
out soldiers to see just what the
fuck was going on.
Soldiers from the 6th Reserve Cavalry Regiment mounted on a horseback,
walked down to the post office to see what was going on,
and then probably got shot at by volunteers, killing three of them.
What's going on over here?
What's all this then?
Oh, God, they're shooting us.
The fucking cops are just punching each other in the background so not expecting
to get shot at the soldiers quickly retreated back to their barracks this episode is hilariously
known as the charge of the lancers that's what the irish because they charge in the wrong direction
because they retreated yeah that's the joke nick god damn it oh that's awesome meanwhile the
volunteers assaulted Dublin Castle
and then shot a policeman who was standing guard outside.
What?
Just rare.
He wasn't standing guard.
He was fighting himself.
And then they began exchanging gunfire
with a few people inside.
A few people?
Now, they did not, however, press the attack.
The volunteers did not know that inside the castle was only a couple
soldiers as Sir Nathan and Colonel
Cowan himself who were also shooting at
them. I'd be
fucking pissed off to have the detail.
There's only a few of you here.
There's literally only like a dozen.
Yeah. And like the
second in command of all
of Ireland is shooting at you with a pistol out the window.
Go fuck yourself.
Soldiers from the Royal Irish Regiment were ordered to march on Dublin Castle.
Apparently, nobody told them that people were actively shooting at one another
because when they showed up at the castle, their weapons were slung over their backs
and their rifles were unloaded.
So when they stumbled upon an
outpost manned by volunteers
they were quickly shown how dumb that was
by being shot at a point blank rage
and their commanding officer was shot directly
in the face
eventually the royals are able to get their shit
together bring a machine gun into the fight
and then drive the volunteers from their outpost
more people are getting shot
in this episode than the last one.
Tends to happen.
Yeah.
The Dublin police, who were
unarmed, mind you, were ordered from the street
after three of them were killed on the first day
as they tried to investigate what the fuck was going on.
They were just investigating. Yeah, they're like, people are getting
shot. What's all this then?
Now with all the shooting and no cops uh a wave of looting
broke out across the city the cops are still fighting each other just hiding the next day
martial law was declared by brigadier general william lowe oh we uh he was put in charge uh
i hope that makes it over there putting this this whole thing under control.
Unfortunately for the volunteers, they failed to capture any of Dublin's main railways or
ports, making it incredibly easy for thousands of British reinforcements to be rushed into
the city.
They not only came with machine guns, but artillery.
What?
Remember, this isn't just any old british field
artillery these are artillery units fresh from the western front yeah dude all they know is
fisting yeah like all their problems are solved by the correct application of just massive waves
of artillery and then a british patrol ship known as the Helga
sailed up the Liffey River,
which cuts straight through Dublin,
like right up the middle,
and then began shelling everything in sight.
This is overkill.
Not yet.
Not yet.
So, if I didn't know
and I wasn't really thinking about it,
I totally think of this as a...
Because we bring up castles and obviously there's castles around.
I would think of this as like some night shit
or maybe even some flintlock type shit.
But no, this is right after...
During World War I.
This isn't just like during World War I.
This is like the same year the Battle of the Somme happened.
Oh, fuck.
Oh, my God.
You can imagine just the firepower that they had.
Yeah.
Oh, my.
It's so bad.
Now, it should be said that the Irish did not think they would actually fight the British.
It's pretty much all the firsthand accounts that I have found.
Like when the Helga sailed up the Liffey River and started shelling everything in sight,
like the revolutionaries were completely speechless that they would like shell the fucking city.
Like they thought they might fight the cops.
They might fight a couple of garrison soldiers.
But like they didn't think they'd get fucking shelled.
Because like Dublin was considered the second city of the UK.
As soon as artillery goes off, I would definitely have second thoughts.
But I still probably...
But that's where these guys are way more manly than we are.
Yeah.
And not just manly, because a good portion of them are women.
Yeah.
The main volunteer positions at the
post office, the forecourts, and the biscuit factory
were surrounded and
instead of moving soldiers in,
the British did what
British soldiers do in 1916.
They began pounding the fuck out of them
with artillery.
One volunteer at the post
office said we did practically no shooting
because there was no targets.
Fuck.
They're sitting there getting shelled.
Oh my God.
Soon, the outlaying volunteer positions would be snuffed out one by one.
At St. Stephen's Green, volunteers were chased out of their positions.
Their British soldiers mounted machine guns at an overlooking hotel and then just rained fire down on them.
at an overlooking hotel and then just rained fire down on them.
At City Hall,
volunteers had been under sustained
bombardment and machine guns
since the first night of the
rising. Eventually, they
began to hear British soldiers that got so
close scream out, Surrender in the name of the
King! And then they
answered them by shooting them in the face as they came through the
windows. Holy fuck.
Eventually, the volunteers inside ran out of ammo um and the soldiers fought their way
inside and they were shocked to see that the building was full of women volunteers who've
been holding them off for hours wow at first they thought the women i wonder how they felt
i hope bad yeah because they were like not not because women don't make good soldiers but because like
when they came in they thought they're like oh you must being held captive by the rebels
they're like no we are the rebels you fucking assholes that's fucking awesome meanwhile a guy
named sean houston and about 20 volunteers were held up inside kingsbridge station um holding
off 400 soldiers with little more than rifles
and some handmade bombs.
They weren't really hand grenades.
He just made them.
They fought the soldiers for hours
at an incredibly close range,
sometimes as close as 20 feet.
Holy shit.
They were so close
that the British kept tossing grenades in
and the Irish picked them up
and chucked them back.
And they were exchanging insults
the whole time.
Eventually, they ran
out of ammunition and they were forced to
surrender. And Houston's position would be
the first of the
Irish positions to just surrender.
And the third day of the rising
four full battalions
of the Sherwood Foresters
were marching to the city.
These had just been conscripted to fight in World War I
and had been in uniform for as little as eight weeks.
There's actually some people who literally thought they were in France.
Really?
Some of the soldiers thought they were walking into France.
Because all they know is they got on a boat,
they got off a boat, they got off a boat,
and people were shooting at them.
Must be in World War I.
Yeah.
Now, main problem with that is training at the time
did not actually consist of marksmanship.
So most of them had never fired their rifles.
I think we talked about this in what episode?
The Hague?
Yeah, with the new army. Yeah, this is the era of the new army. talked about this in what episode? The Hague? Yeah.
With the new army.
Yeah.
This is the era
of the new army.
Okay.
Where they had
basically fucking
broomsticks.
Kind of.
Yeah.
For training.
They had been trained
on how to assault
trenches and stuff
like that.
Pretty much it.
Like they weren't
trained in flanking
maneuvers.
Like pretty much
bayonet charges
at trenches.
Solid.
Now,
there is parts of Ireland, like like for instance the uh the irish rising not super popular among ireland in general so like when they hit
when they hit the shore and we're walking people are like waving giving them cigarettes give them
high fives whatever and then they just like start getting shot at out of nowhere um so they their main point that they were supposed
to take was across the mount street bridge and they got about 300 meters from that point that's
when volunteers opened fire on them soldiers immediately got pinned down and because uh they
were mobilized so quickly had no support weapons with them they had no machine guns they didn't
even have hand grenades um instead of pulling back off the bridge
or attempting to move around and flank the volunteers,
there's only about 15 to 20 volunteers shooting at them.
Remember, four battalions of soldiers.
So instead of doing anything,
the officers unsheathed their swords,
stood up, and ordered a bayonet charge
across the bridge even though they're facing like i said 20 at most volunteers the forces lost 250
men on the bridge so and the volunteers only abandoned their position because another
volunteer position nearby refused to reinforce them and they run out of ammo.
They lost only four people.
Fuck.
The British took nine hours to advance 300 yards.
Oh, God.
As British soldiers got closer and closer to the four courts area, they ran to more and more volunteer positions.
Uh,
the British soldiers,
many of whom had just been fighting in mainland Europe in the trenches across
no man's land,
uh,
they were totally unprepared for house to house fighting with Irish
guerrillas.
The British continuously attempted bayonet charges through city streets,
only to be shot down by volunteers,
hidden windows,
rooftops,
and behind chimneys. the British. Now now if you listen to the show uh long enough um or you know enough about you know history of conflict guerrilla war irregular war
against a uniformed force eventually tends to drive the uniformed force nuts.
They start to get enraged.
They forget what they were trained.
They forget morals and ethics.
British started doing that too.
They started executing people.
One Irish pacifist came up and said,
Hey, I'm in this house.
I got people with me.
We're not fighting you.
Just please leave us alone.
Execute on the spot.
Strangely enough, the British guy who ordered the execution of the Irish pacifist found insane in court.
Really?
Whoops.
Yeah.
Turns out the British just had a crazy guy.
Who would have thought?
the British just had a crazy guy.
Who would have thought?
And also the British began slapping makeshift armored trucks together
in order to protect them from the withering rifle fire.
Pulling some like Mad Max shit out of their ass
to creep their way down the streets.
Now remember, these are trucks from 1916
bogged down with bits of metal and wood
just bolted onto the side.
Just going at a crawling pace.
Rolling down the street at the speed of like a creeping fart.
So
at this point
did any recruitment
for the Irish
go up?
So during the rising
a lot of the people that stayed home showed up to fight.
Like when that listened to McNeil's
order to stay at home like oh fuck there's
a revolution outside. gotta go join it
yeah that's pretty much it
also there's
parts of this
parts of the rising leadership realize
if we want to be seen
and more importantly internationally
recognized as
an independent nation
during this era we need to prove
that we are Irish fighting for Ireland as an independent nation during this era, we need to prove that, um,
we are Irish fighting for Ireland.
Like,
um,
there's a picture in the book,
uh,
that I was sent that has like all these,
uh,
Irish volunteers holding rifles under a giant sign that says,
um,
we don't fight for the Kaiser and shit like that.
Didn't really do a lot of good pointed out,
you know,
it's good. Yeah. You it out. You know, it's good.
Yeah.
You put it out there.
Yeah.
So even after building these armored vehicles and shit,
advancing down the road for the British
was pretty much a death trap.
And that wasn't just for the British.
It was for virtually anybody.
The streets kind of just turned into no man's land.
Yeah.
Now this whole city going crazy with looting at the same time.
So like men, women, and children just getting gunned down
and cold blown in the streets
if they run out in front of the wrong position.
Both sides are guilty of that part.
And the British decided to try to get through going,
instead of going across the street,
they'd just blow a hole in an adjoining building
and then just crawl through it
so they didn't have to advance on the street.
Smart.
Like I said, this whole thing started
just wearing on the British.
They couldn't advance more than 20 feet at a time,
so they started taking on the Irish.
At one point, soldiers from the South Staffordshire Regiment
kicked down a door and then bayoneted 15 people they found inside.
Nobody inside was armed.
That's fucked.
Unfortunately for the volunteers headquarters, the constant British shelling had set one hell of a fire inside the city that eventually spread to the post office.
They had to blow a hole in one of the walls and escape to set up headquarters in 16th Moore Street,
where they planned a breakout into the Irish countryside.
Remember, this is all just happening in Dublin.
This isn't like Ireland-wide.
Right.
But then finally, Pierce accepted that everything was lost.
Pierce issued an order to all volunteers to surrender, stating,
In order to prevent further slaughter of Dublin citizens,
and in hope of saving the lives of our followers now surrounded and hopelessly outnumbered,
the members of the provisional government present at headquarters have agreed on unconditional surrender,
and the commandments of the various districts of the city and
county will order their commands to lie
down arms.
And all about 500 people
have been killed in a week of fighting.
More than 2,600 have been
wounded, mostly civilians, from the British shelling.
All of the
16 cops and 22
of the British soldiers
that were killed in the fighting
were Irishmen themselves.
While the fighting was over,
the killing was not.
The British government arrested 4,000
people in response to the
Easter Rising. 90
people would end up being sentenced to hang
or being shot, including
all seven of the men who signed the
Proclamation of the Republic.
And that's when our boy Conley,
the commander of the Irish Citizens Army,
our favorite guy in the entire story,
who had been badly wounded while fighting at the post office,
he took a bullet to the ankle,
which bounced awkwardly up into his leg and fucked him up real bad.
Oh, fuck.
And he was on the verge of death. Uh, when his sentence came down,
a doctor actually told the court that the man only had a day or two left to
live.
And he was almost dead to the world.
He couldn't walk.
He couldn't sit up,
shit like that.
Right.
Sentenced to death.
Anyway,
he couldn't stand for the firing squad.
So he was carried out to the execution ground,
tied to a chair, and then shot.
The Maxis
executions of the leaders of the Rising
led to a public outcry in Ireland,
even though most of the Irish
population did not support them during the
Rising itself.
Since they couldn't kill everyone they wanted to,
the British simply tossed the rest in the concentration
camps.
The concentration camp was actually in Wales.
Really?
Yeah.
These camps would end up spawning
the next generation of Irish revolutionaries,
earning the camp itself the University of Revolution.
After crushing the Easter Rising...
Like X-Men.
Yeah, but no.
Extraordinary Irishmen. The League of Extraordinary Irishmen. like x-men yeah but no extraordinary irishman the league of extraordinary irishman the british thought that ireland had learned its lesson and would no longer be a problem for them
and then they did introduce conscription into ireland this led shin fein riding a wave of
public support and office,
Declaration of Independence, and finally the Irish War of Independence and later Irish Civil War.
Then the Irish Free State and the Republic of Ireland. Now Northern Ireland, the Republic
of Ireland, and the Troubles. So a lot of modern Ireland and a lot of modern Irish problems can be led back to the British fucking themselves over and fucking the Irish over at the beginning of World War I.
And that is the Easter Rising.
Now, I'm really happy we covered covered this honestly i enjoyed it i i personally really love irish
history um i think it is one troubling how comfortable everybody seems to be
with it um now i guess i should i guess i should go on record that no i do not support republican
or unionist terrorism in northern ireland but when you look at uh you know like i did like i'm i'm
not irish i have no no Irish blood in my system.
I'm more than certain that you're in the same boat as I do. I've never been to Ireland. I only
know Irish people through the internet from the outsiders looking in. And when you, especially
like myself, I have a European historyan history degree but um irish history is
very heavily glossed over um but when you look at it and you realize like holy shit like they just
the the irish people are just some of the most victimized people in all western world yes um
when it when it comes to like the non-native people of Northern America.
But it continues to this day.
I mean, there's still a partition in Ireland.
There's still people getting fucked up over British decisions
in Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.
It led through the Troubles, and it led through death squads
and terrorist bombings and all sorts of other horrible shit.
And it's,
it's always really interesting to me to be able to find something that like we kind of technically live through.
Um,
like it's our age,
like this happened while we were alive and we can kind of go back in,
in history and see like,
Oh,
this is how that started.
I'm not saying the,
like the acrimony between the British and the Irish began on the rising,
but like you can definitely chart, like you can really begin to connect the fucking dots. I'm not saying the acrimony between the British and the Irish began on the rising,
but you can definitely chart.
You can really begin to connect the fucking dots when concentration camps start popping up.
It's really interesting.
When Irish veterans returned from World War I,
and they happened to be from the wrong neck of town,
and they were Catholic,
or they maybe had some kind of connection to a volunteer unit.
Um,
they got thrown in concentration camps too.
Um,
so like it's something that I don't know.
I really felt like I really fell in love with Irish history during the
research for this.
And that's,
that's why like I absolutely want to do a series on the troubles,
but I feel like it's almost impossible to do.
I don't know.
We'll see.
I want to say the first time I ever heard of the IRA
or any type of Irish history,
again, I'm going to take it back to the shirt that I guess I'm wearing
where it says Captain Cosplay.
Yeah.
That's where it goes back to.
Did you have IRA cosplayers?
Yes.
That's a thing?
It is definitely a thing.
You know, I have known you for years,
and we've been doing the show for almost a year,
and these things shouldn't surprise me anymore.
They shouldn't, but they do.
But I'm sitting here surprised.
And I ended up talking to one of the dudes
because I was really confused.
I was like, so basically, long story short,
this guy was basically naming off all the history things
because we had this little event called
Marching Through History.
And I was on the World War II side of the history thing.
But they had all the way back to,
they had fucking legionnaires there and all this other shit but then the ira came up and i was like interesting record scratch
i bet you're wondering how i ended up here there's dudes with bolt actions all the way on the end
over here and shitty looking shit and then shit going all the way up to like how like people
dressed not too long ago like some dude in jeans carrying an Armalite saying, fuck the British.
What's going on here?
So I asked him about it.
He's like, oh, yeah, most of the guys here, we all have Irish in our blood.
And so we're here to represent the IRA in history.
I was like, OK, I want to look into this.
It's one of those things that's really hard to say because I'll say up and down
I completely support
Irish Union
and independent Ireland.
I feel like the partition
is illegal.
But I'm not going to go
as far as to say
I support the fucking
provisional Ireland.
So that's the thing.
The Irish Republican Army
was a faction that fought
during the War of Independence, the Irish Civil War.
Very different than the Irish Republican Army who's blowing up cafes in the 80s.
Huge difference.
So that's our series for Easter.
Thank you for tuning in. And because we did it last episode,
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We're wearing shirts right now.
We're giving money to him.
We highly suggest
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Lieutenant Cosplay. Not We highly, at least just do the same. Captain cosplay approves. Yeah. Yeah.
Um,
you know,
cause Lieutenant cosplay,
not nearly as cool.
Captain though.
Yeah.
We still got promoted.
That's nice.
That's two C's.
Sergeant cosplay just sounds lame.
Uh,
uh,
so thank you for tuning in for our bonus,
uh,
Easter special.
Cause the two parter.
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