Locked In with Ian Bick - 1090 Jake Shares Prison War Stories

Episode Date: November 19, 2023

YouTube sensation 1090 Jake is on the show to share his story of joining a gang at a young age, getting sentenced to prison & the insane war stories that came with it and how he was able to turn his past into a platform. Thanks to MANSCAPED for sponsoring today's episode! Get 20% OFF + Free International Shipping + 2 Free Gifts with my promo code LOCKEDIN at https://manscaped.com/lockedin Follow Ian Bick on Instagram: @ian_bick & Snapchat: ianbick Connect with 1090 Jake: https://youtube.com/@EndOfSentence?si=KkCh5U5MdkQIfNmY https://instagram.com/1090_jake?igshid=YzAwZjE1ZTI0Zg== Buy Merch: https://lockedinbrand.com Use code lockedin at checkout to get 20% off your order Connect with Ian Bick: https://www.ianbick.com Chapters: 00:00:00 - A Close Call with the Police 00:03:20 - Seeking Attention Through Rebellion 00:06:28 - Getting into Trouble and Joining a Gang 00:09:42 - The Influence of Childhood Experiences 00:12:45 - Juvenile Detention and Gang Violence 00:15:50 - White Guys in Prison 00:18:50 - Getting Arrested  00:21:54 - Facing Felony Charges 00:24:55 - Gang Affiliation and Tattoo Removal 00:27:48 - Manscape Promotional Message 00:31:26 - Media Accusations and Plea Deals 00:34:38 - Exposing Rappers and Rats 00:38:37 - Intimidation 00:41:34 - First Day in Prison 00:44:33 - The Fear of Prison Life 00:47:25 - The Reality of Prison Life 00:50:48 - Weapons in Prison 00:54:02 - The Pain of Being Poked in Prison 00:57:01 - A Violent Confrontation 01:00:19 - Memories in Prison 01:07:05 - Extortion in Prison 01:13:00 - Life in Prison 01:16:13 - Meeting Older Dudes in Prison 01:19:22 - Getting Booked for Armed Assault 01:22:44 - From Probation to Prison YouTuber 01:25:44 - Prison Stories and YouTube Success 01:29:23 - The absence of cell phones in prison 01:32:46 - The Rise of the Prison Genre on TikTok 01:35:54 - Overcoming past mistakes Produced by: https://www.instagram.com/shanedanahy https://www.shanedanahy.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

I back up. I got the razor in my hand. He grabs his neck and he starts kicking the door. Bam, bomb, bomb, bomb. So now I know the COs are going to come in. COs, you can hear when they fat be coming up the stairs and you can hear the keys jingling and shit. So when I know they made it to the top tier,

I threw the razor in the toilet. But I'm thinking the whole time, the second I throw this razor, he's going to crash me. I'm going to get his blood all over me, all this shit. I throw the razor in the toilet. I flush that. The COs come up to the window and they're like, what's going on?

and he shows him his neck and he's like, I want to kill myself. So I'm shocked. He ended up getting taken to the hospital, like fix his shit or whatever, but he never snitched on me. And I never got in trouble for cutting him. But my buddy that was across the hall watched everything happen. Ladies and gentlemen, listen up. I have an exclusive episode for you all today.

I had the opportunity to have YouTube star and legend 1090 Jake on the show to share his story of getting involved in gang life at an early age, going to prison and the wild war stories that came with it and how he ended up becoming a YouTube sensation. This episode is brought to you by Manscaped. I would like to give a huge thank you and appreciation to Manscape for coming on board to sponsor our show. You can get 20% off plus free international shipping and two free gifts with my promo code Locked In at Manscape.com slash locked in. Sit back, relax, and get ready to live. lock in with the one, the only 1090 Jake.

1090 Jake, the man, the myth, the legend. Welcome to Lockton, man. We just had a great almost two-hour car from the airport together, got to know each other. Our first time meeting. My paperwork checks out. Don't worry. Hasn't been a hit pieces on me by you yet. But, dude, it's an honor to meet you and have you here.

Ever since I started on YouTube, I got probably five or six comments a day saying 1090 Jake 1090 Jake we want 1090 Jake so we're giving the people what they want right now for sure I appreciate you having me on absolutely how was the flight in today it's good quick flight that's what we like to hear man yeah wasn't first class but uh it's all good we got you next time yeah so um Jake what take us through the beginning of your story man where are you from where do you grow up what's like childhood life for you so I'm from mass um I say Boston just because nobody else knows anything in fucking Massachusetts, but I was born in Malden,

and then I was 13 when I ended up moving to Florida. So my parents were separated before I was even born. I was with my mother. Then I went to my father's. He didn't want me in the picture, so I ended up finding myself down in Florida. I was living with my aunt. And in mass, I wasn't really getting into nothing,

but my at-home situation wasn't great, so I was kind of like becoming a pissed-off kid. I always switched schools, so I never really had like a solid place where I felt like I was from. You know what I mean? Because it's always new friends every year. Different school, different school. I end up down in Florida. And by then I'm like a pissed off teenager.

Oh, my parents ain't want me. Fuck everybody. You know, I'm just going to rebel, whatever. And the first year I was down there was with my grandmother because my aunt was in the process of adopting two kids. So I couldn't go with her immediately. So I go to grandmas. and she's thinking I'm still the sweet little kid that she's used to and I'm whiling out.

You know what I mean? So I moved down to Florida and find out like, holy shit, everybody's got guns down here. Like, this shit's late. And I just started getting into shit. You know, that's when I really, I think 13 is when I first started smoking and everything. Smoking, drinking, whatever I could get into, whatever bad shit I could get into, I was into it.

And for me, that was like my way of, like, socializing. It was through, like, being bad, just trying to get some type of attention. Did you get bullied at all in school? Yeah, surprisingly. Why'd they bully you? Because I was the poor kid. So when I was living with my mother, we bounced around,

but there were some places we lived that weren't bad. And, like, I actually didn't know it growing up, but we lived in, like, a Section 8 apartment or whatever. I didn't know it was Section 8, though, because I was young as fuck. But I guess she won, like, the lottery of some shit on a fucking Section 8 place, but we lived in a decent neighborhood.

And when I went to school, I was the poor kid in the school. So they kind of looked down on me in a sense. And that school was more like preppy. But like I said, I kept switching schools. So then when I went to my fathers, it was more like inner city. I fit in better over there. You know what I mean? But as far as like physically bullying me, it was none of that.

It was just like they didn't want to fuck with me because I was like the poor kid and I was wearing the hand-me-downs for my dad and shit. And I looked more like. I fit in in a different situation. So I couldn't really get in with the preppy kids. And then when I went to the other school, I fit right in and started fighting. And, you know. Did you understand why they were bullying you at that time?

Like, did you know you were different that you didn't have money? Kind of, yeah. Like, I could peep it. But I'm looking at it, like, it wasn't necessarily bullying. Like, they just ain't want me around. And you feel that as a kid. Like, damn, like, they ain't fucking with me, you know. So when I started doing bad shit,

that's when I found my little group and those kids were like me you know, the fucking, the home situation's fucked they didn't really have money neither and, yeah, just progressed. And you're being unwanted by both fronts, your parents and now the people around you, that's gotta be tough too.

Well, that's kind of how everybody gets into the gang shit and, you know, trying to seek out something that isn't there to begin with. Do you think if you did have a stable family that you never would have went down the path you ended up going down? Probably. You know, because I wasn't really a bad kid.

It's just I was seeking what I didn't have. And I found attention through doing bad shit. So I don't know. I don't know how different things would have played out, but I'm sure it would have had an effect. How would people describe you back then if we had like one of the kids you used to run with at that age? What would they say about you?

I don't know, bro. Like, you've seen the jackass movies? Like, I was in the shit like that, just doing wild. Wild dumb shit Funny shit Like back then Like nothing too crazy

You know what I'm saying It wasn't nothing like Crazy and violent It was just more like Doing bad shit graffiti Fucking people shit up Fucking throwing firecrackers And mailboxes

And shit like that What all kids do Yeah just fucking off Yeah we actually just had Brandon Novak on the show Yeah From Jackass Which is awesome

But I was that kid too Like I was bullied In elementary school And then I was the one Acting out To get attention putting a bag of shit on someone's doorstep, lighting it on fire, the M80s in the mailbox, everything like that.

That's what kids did back then. I mean, I'm sure kids still do that now, too. So when's, like, the first time you really started getting into, like, real legal trouble? I mean, middle school, I was, like, border. You know, even at my father's, I think in seventh grade, I got in some type of trouble because I hit some kid. and I had to go to like a clerk magistrate. Like I didn't get arrested, but I had to go to court.

And nothing really came from it. But down in Florida, later on, I think 16, 15, 15, 16, that's when I started going to Juvian and all that. So down there, I just dove head first and everything. Down there was really like, my first introduction to gangs was up in Mass. But when I went to Florida, that's when it was like, all right, motherfucker, because it's really doing shit down here. Like, I'm trying to get into all this. You know what I mean?

The fighting, the guns, the smoking, the drugs. And I think 16 was the first time I went to Jubei. And that was in Tampa. And what was that for? Fuck. I'm trying to remember. I might have to come back to it. I don't even think I can remember off the top of my head.

So what was the appeal for the gang life? Like, what was it for you? Because, you know, kids grow up playing like Grand Theft Auto and watching this stuff. But what for you was it that you wanted to join a gang? Grand The Father. So you're saying you're influenced by Grand The Father. I got Grandfather tattooed in my hand. Yeah. No, I mean, but it was just like a whole bunch of misfits finally fit in, if that makes sense.

And it gave us something to do, you know. It gave us people we didn't like. It gave us people we did like. It gave us something to bond over. And then not for nothing, it was like a fucking football team. Except we're just fighting and doing dumb shit, you know? So it was like. in that sense it was a sense of belonging and I don't know I guess that's all I was really looking for

what was your initiation into the gang because we hear about how like gang members have to get initiated by doing something yeah I mean I'm not going to get into the fucking specific specifics but like most gangs you get jumped in like you have to jump someone or someone jumps you now you get jumped you get jumped yeah so you have to take an ass whooping just to get into yeah because they want to see where your heart's at you know like it's not Snitch or? No, they just want to know that you'll fight. Okay.

Especially if the odds are against you. They want to see that you're going to hold it down. So, like, it's not so much a matter of you winning. It's a matter of you getting beat the fuck up. But pushing through it and not giving up. Like, you can't hit the floor and ball up. You're restarts. You know what I'm saying?

You can't not fight back. It restarts. And if you got to restart them any times, it's just a no-go. You're just going to get flipped. You ever watched the Batman movie Dark Night? Yeah. Where the Joker, like, breaks the pool stick, and he makes the two of them that the gang members fight over each other to, like, get initiated in or whatever. I don't really remember that, but.

Yeah, that was, like, when he was trying to see who killed the Batman and said, like, they, I don't know, whatever, but it reminds me of that. It's just wild. Like, where do you think you got that aggression from, like, to be able to fight? Get my ass kicked from my dad. That's where it's done from. Yeah, that's where a lot of that shit's done from. When he was in your life. Yeah.

It was a lot of negative shit It kind of made me want to do shit to other people Do you blame him for that Like that because I made you the person you are today You have like resentment? Yeah I really don't even get into that shit like that Like I really don't talk about it

But a lot of like the wanting to prove myself Came from that Because when you're that young and that small Getting your ass beat by somebody You feel like you're soft So then it becomes a now I want to prove to myself I'm not and you start doing shit to other people.

So, I mean, it definitely, a lot of that came from that. And then at the same time, he used to glamorize, like, gangsters, gangsta movies, the mafia, this and that. So I always wanted to, you know, because I had the impression that he was into that shit. So I wanted to get into it. But obviously down in Florida, it's not like all mafia. It's fucking gang banging, you know what I mean? So going to Juvie as a gang member, what's that? Like, I don't think we've really talked about that on the show.

Like is it, do you have to go, you're in there fighting, there's politics, how does that work? No, there was never politics in Juvie in Tampa. It was just like you just had different neighborhoods and one kid might be in a gang from that neighborhood, but it really wasn't like gangland and Juvie. Juvie was just like a bunch of dumbass teens and motherfuckers from different hoods or fight and we get snacks and somebody get beat up for their snack or shit like that. Like it really wasn't that serious, especially in Tampa it wasn't fucking. What like some goldfish you guys are fighting over?

Fun cookies, you know, like pop tides, stupid shit. How do you compare Juvie to like regular jail? Like from a setting-wise, like lockdowns and the way you're housed and whatnot? Juvie, we were in cells. We're locked down a lot and then we go to school. We go on the computers and play fucking games and it's stupid. It's like daycare, you know what I mean? You get in a fight, they put you in a cell for like a day and then you come out the next day.

Versus County, Hillsborough County Jail in Tampa. it's open bay. So, like, they have Orient Road, which is where the cell is off. So back then, for me, Orient was, like, booking and then the kitchen. So if you got, like, assigned a job in the jail, you would go to Orient Road and you would be in cells with, like, one bunky versus the rest of Hillsborough County Jail. Falkenberg, it's all open bay. So you got, like, 60 people.

And they would have, like, kind of like a quad, right? So if you're in a corner, there's a bunk bed, but they would have water. That's divided four people. So the walls would be waist high. You'd have four bunks, four bunks, four bunks. And the whole thing is just wide the fuck open. And then in the back right corner would be like a glass wall that would come out. And that was our wreck yard.

So it's just a concrete wall. And then above you is a cage. So you can't see grass, nothing like that. You just look up and see the sky. And you're just in there until your case is finalized. Do you think Juvie made you a better criminal at all? Nah, because I mean, when I went to Juvie, it was over dumb shit. Like, I remember, like, it all gets mixed up when I try to think back on it.

But I know that, because I was in Juvie in Tampa and in Orlando. So when I went to Orlando, I was actually in a juvenile program. So I ended up going to a program that was for, like, drug and behavior or whatever. I go to the program and I ended up escaping that bitch. So they had double-locked doors for the front door. I was in the front for whatever reason. And they had a visitor coming in while the other door was open. Both of the doors aren't supposed to be open at the same time.

So I run. I shoot off. I get out. I fucking leave. I end up getting picked up by the police. When they pick me up, because I called my aunt and tried to get her to pick me up. She's like, I'm not picking you up. But I talked to the program director.

They said if you turn yourself in, the police are going to take you back to fucking to the program. So I end up getting picked up by the police. And I'm thinking that I'm going to go back to the program. Like, you got warrants in Tampa. So I'm like, what the fuck? So they take me to Juvee in Orlando. That juvie was, that shit was rocking in there. I'm not going to lie.

Like, that shit was crazy. You get put into a room and there's two slabs, like the two beds. And then there's a mat on the floor. I'm not sleeping on the floor. So first quarter, I pull this kid off of his bunk. I ain't going to cap, I picked a white kid. Wait, what even do you pull them off the bug? Yeah, yeah.

Like, you got to fight to fucking sleep on the slab. So walk us through. You walk into that cell. I get put in this cell and there's a black kid over here with tattoos and shit. He looks fucking crazy. So I'm like, all right, that kid's like, you know what I'm saying? And then I see this lame ass little white kids. I'm like, I'm definitely taking his shit.

Because this one's going to put up more of a fight. And, I mean, it might have been the flawed thing to do, but fuck it. So I basically pull his shit, get his bunk. He sleeps on the floor. I sleep on the slab. And then when I went there, there was a kid from Miami. And me and that kid were like, yo, we're going to lock in. because neither one of us are from Orlando.

And Orlando would like, when you're in Juvie and you go to the programs, all the city's beef. So Tampa will beef with Orlando or Tampa beef with St. Pete. West Palm or beef with Miami, whatever. So if you weren't from there, like you're going to link up with whoever ain't because y'all have no allies in that bitch versus it's you versus everybody. So right when I got there was like in the middle of everybody trying to riot and shit. Now the kid you yanked off the bunk. Does he try to fight or anything? No.

Do you think this is why white guys have a bad rap in prison? Well, I mean, most white guys that go there are there for, like, dumb shit. So they're not used to, like, the violence and all that. It's like a culture shock versus the kids that are from the hood. They're living the same way in there as they are on the street. You know, it's like nonstop. Well, I asked you in the car what you would think of me, and you thought I would be a sex offender or someone of no good. Yeah.

I ain't like that. It's just like if you see somebody that's like, Put together looks like they came from a good black teeth. Teeth is a major thing. If you see somebody with good teeth, they think you're a cop. You see somebody with fucked up teeth. It's like, yeah, he come from the trenches, you know? But if I see somebody coming with glasses, it's like the glasses is like the sex offender 3,000.

It's like almost all sex offenders have some crazy ass glasses, you know what I mean? So the second you see that, you like, he probably got some funny shit on his name. But white boys in general, like everywhere I've been locked up at, you can tell he comes from this. Listen, he comes from that. And they never wear glasses. Now that you think, I think of it, what you bring that up, I've never met like someone that's high up in the ranks or is legit that wears glasses. Everybody tries to stay away from the glasses.

So they call them like the Tomo 3,000s or Sex of Under 3,000s in the state too? In state prison, yeah, we got these like Jeffrey Dahma looking glasses. I had a pair. You wore them? Do you wear contacts now? Yeah. I'm blind as fuck. So like when I was in the Jit camps and shit, I couldn't see any.

So people would be calling to me. I didn't know if they were like, my homies or like, you know, because people will talk shit. You'll see your ops in the child hall. They'll be like, oh, fuck you. So people will say shit. I don't know what they're saying. I just start banging and fucking throwing my shit up. I don't know who's talking to me.

But I got the adult, I got the glasses in an adult prison. What I did is I took a nail filer and I basically peeled off the brown color that they had on them and it left them like clear, like a matte clear. like a matte clear color they look raw as fuck and i was like the only person on the compound that did that and then everybody else started doing it like copying me type shit but when i cleaned them up they look good that's wild so what year did you get out of juvie that was like i don't know bro because 2012 is when i was 18 that's when i went in so it must have been like 2011 2010 type shit you're like 16 yeah 16 17 because i went in for a couple of different things bro like when i got

picked up in Orlando. It was for an armed burglary in possession of a firearm out of Tampa. Then I got transferred to Tampa, got out, beat that. I think the first time I got picked up was for a runaway. I was a runaway. I got picked up for that. And then when I went in and they took me into like the booking thing, we have some. So we got the Jack Center, the Juvenile Assessment Center. I went in there and then they brought me next door to like the drug thing where you detox because I was high as fuck. When they put me in there, I ended up knocking a kid out. And then I got hit with felony battering a detainee, and then I got rebooked for that. So, like, my juvenile shit, like, I had a couple of different situations, but it was nothing

serious. And then I was on juvenile probation for the felony battery when I caught my adult case. Okay. So that just completely got Xed out, and then it just went straight to the big boy shit. So you never graduated high school? No, I dropped out. You dropped out. Yeah.

All right, so walk us through getting arrested for the big boy shit. You're on probation. What happens? I'm on probation for punching the kid. I end up going to a party in the South of Springs neighborhood of Tampa. It's the hood. And I had a gun on me. So we're walking back from the party.

We go past somebody's house. They call the police. Their dog was barking. They try to say that we broke into a car. We tried to. But it never happened. Like, we never did. So we keep walking.

And the police come and the canine gets out. He's like, don't move from letting the dog out. I'm on the phone and by like a bush. Like, I'm ahead of the two people that I'm with. So I'm on the phone or whatever. And I'm looking around. Like, I'm going to try to run. You know what I mean?

Because I got this fucking gun on me. But the cop, his hand is on the back door to the car, whatever. He's going to let the dog out. So I stand there, whatever, whatever. He grabs all of us. We put our hands on the car. He searches me. He doesn't find the gun.

But, like, I'm handcuffed and everything. Like, I get cuffed up. They bring the person from the house to the street. And they're like, you know, that's them. They point us out, whatever, whatever. So he searches me, mind you, though. Like, they take me handcuffed. I got this big shit sitting right here.

And fucking, they got the spotlight in my face. So I'm thinking of myself, like, how do they not see it? Like, I was it not bulging out? Because he patted me down and he didn't touch my front. You feel me? So she pointed us out. So at this point, we're getting arrested. They go to put me in the cop car.

And I'm thinking, like, you're going to wiggle this bitch out and fucking try to kick it somewhere or something. Like, I don't know. I before I get put in the car the supervisor whoever comes through and he pads me down and he finds the gun so he takes the gun off my hip and he yells at the other cop like how the fuck did you not find this so I had an M&P Smith & Wesson army

with an extended grip with an attack light laser on the rail and that gun was reported stolen so I get booked for burglary of a conveyance which is the car and then carrying a concealed firearm I go to jail when I go to jail I don't know how many days past, but I get a call out. So I don't know what the call out is. I'm thinking it's medical wherever. So I go to the medical, like, they take me to where medical is. The jail is big as

fuck. So they got to transport you on a golf cart. So they take me to the end of the call out. And like there's like little rooms, like cubby rooms. That's where you'll meet with like your lawyer and shit. They take me into the room and there's two detectives. They're like, yo, we want to find out what happened with this burglary at your uncle's house. Like I don't have a uncle here. What the fuck are you talking about? All right, well, this person's house got burglarized. We're going to cut to the chase. You can help us, help you.

You can tell us to fuck off. So I tell them to fuck off. They wrote in the paperwork, piss off. At that point, it says in the paperwork, the interview ended, and I got taken back to the cell. Well, not the cell, but like the fucking dorm that I'm in. When I go back, I'm thinking in my head, like, damn, you know? Like, they link the gun to the burglary, this and that.

Like, all this shit's going through my head. Am I going to get charged with anything? Whatever. The next day I wake up, I had like 16 new felony charges. So they hit me with Armberglary, 15 counts, Grant that Firearm, and then Grant that 5,000 and 10,000. So it was 17. America's first pledge was freedom.

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Fuck yeah. Florida don't fuck off. And we have like the most amount of time. So it's like 85% like the fed. So whatever sentence you get, you got to do 85%. But if you get hit with a PBO, now you're facing life. And you already have a record? Juvenile, so it didn't count.

Oh, they don't count that? I never got convicted of a felony as a juvenile. So this is my first felony adult case that I'm fighting now. And it's like, I'm already having it in my head like, yeah, I'm going to prison. How do you look back then? Do you look like how you do now? Like, do you have tattoos? Are you a big guy?

I was not. I was skinny. Well, no, I wasn't really skinny. I was too 10 when I got booked. So I was like six foot, two ten. You're tall, though. I was tattered, though. My face was already tattered.

I had my eye. I had my chest, my arms. Like, I already went in there tattered from the street. So I had gang tats on me already. So when I went in the county, like, motherfuckers in the county, already seeing the tattoos, like, what you is? You banging da-da-da-da. And that's when I first experienced, like, the racial issue with being a white blood.

Because on the street, I never had an issue. You know, like, I was the person that brought me home, they mixed. So it was like on the block I was fine when I go to Ken and Juvie I was fine County jail now I'm starting to get into it with all

the black dudes oh ain't no white bloods bitch I'm right here it's like what are we gonna do you know what I mean I got a couple fights in the county with that shit So where do you think that comes from about that there's no white bloods because clearly you are one so where does that come It's a predominantly black gang

You know bloods and cribs Even way out in California But you got so many people that have a perception on it. And they'll be like, oh, how is it this? It came from the Black Panthers and da-da-da. And they don't even know what the fuck they're talking about because there's famous white Crips from California that like went through level four yards and everything

and they're fucking well-known. But people in the East Coast don't know who they are. So they just naturally assume. And then not for nothing, the South is racist. So you got people that are join shit that don't want other people within that organization. So it's just a mix of that. People not knowing what the fuck they're talking about.

Like, bro, I met a lot of bloods that weren't even real right bloods. They didn't know who the fuck they were banging under. They didn't, they had no connections. They were just like, oh, I'm black, I'm blood. And I got muscles, so nobody's going to tell me nothing. Like, they wanted to be the big homie. But come to find out, they weren't nothing for real. And then they went to prison.

They started fucking punks and, you know, they end up getting exposed and stabbed, whatever. Now, when the guards ask you if you're gang affiliated, are you honest or do you just let them figure it out on your own? No, yeah. I straight up told them. You're like, fuck it. I'm gang affiliates. Well, when I caught, when I hit that kid in Juvie,

I actually recently got the paperwork for that shit. I didn't know I could get it. And I said in the fucking paperwork, they were like, why did you do that? And I was like, oh, he's talking about he's from the sprains and he blood. He ain't from the sprains. He ain't no fucking blood. So they already had me listed as a gang member from Juvie. And then plus all the tattoos like my whole right arm is banged out with just gang tats.

What's a difference between a gang tattoo and a normal tattoo? It's going to be gang affiliated. So like I got the Superman logo, but it's a five. It says bang, bang, I got a big ass B on my arm and it's not the Red Sox logo. I got M-O-B fucking all types of shit on my arm. So it's like they can decipher like stars and things like that, crowns. They look at that. It doesn't necessarily mean you gang banging, but if you got a style with a five in it and fucking certain shit, like they know what time it is.

They know that that's. I went in tatted up and they were like, are any of these gang tattoos? I'm like, I don't even know what a gang tattoo is. Like, I'm 21 years old. I've never been gay and affiliated. And they're like double check and shit. And I'm like, I'm not in a gang, you know? No, but they'll fuck you over like that, though.

Because there's people that'll go in and the tattoos have nothing to do with a gang. But they'll classify you as one and that can fuck you up. Like, that can put you in predicaments you don't need to be in. Or they'll put you in a different dorm because they think you have an affiliation that you don't. Yeah. I mean, bro, when I went to prison, they were cutting people's tattoos off. Really? Yeah.

How does that work when someone gets their tattoo cut off? There was a white kid. I think he had a Jewish star on the inside of his hand. And they cut that shit off and he retatted it on. Like, y'all got me fucked up. But, like, there's been situations with kids claiming blood that have stars on them and they're not blood and they'll fucking hold them down, try to scrape it with a knife and shit like that.

Or we flipped one kid at an adult prison that I was at. He had a whole bunch of stars on them. We crossed everything out on them. What do you mean when I crossed out with like a razor? No with a tattoo gun. Okay. Like pinned him against the wall and slashed everything that he had on him So he couldn't go to another prison and claim it.

And what is he doing? Like screaming or is he just taking it? He's just taking it. One of the bros was a tattoo artist. So like we flipped him. Like everybody like we beat him fuck up. And the bro just, you know, sat down with him and just exed out all of his tats. That is, it's wild.

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So I was only caught with one. They couldn't charge me with every single one of them. So the grand theft charge, it was $5,000 and $10,000. That got reduced to the cost of just one firearm. So those four charges, I get convicted. I plea out the 36 months. So three years Florida State Prison So how's it go from a potential life sentence to that?

Well, I mean, this is the thing. Like they call it the spaghetti effect. They hit you with mad charges Just like you throw a plate of spaghetti on the wall But by the time it goes to the floor All of that shit isn't sticking on the wall You know what I mean? So they overcharged the fuck out of me

And said I took 15 guns They were only able to prove Or I was only willing to plea out to one And it was my first felony offense But they told me if you take it. it to trial, you're facing 15 minimum to life. So if you go to trial, you're getting no less than 15. And if you fuck off and, you know, you blow trial, you're going to get banned. There were kids in my situation. Like, I knew a kid he caught an armed robbery. He ended up getting four years.

First felony conviction. I knew another kid who had an armed burglary. He blew it. He ended up getting 10. I know another kid. He had a case similar. He ended up getting like 20-something. So you got a lot of kids that just aren't willing to sign that piece of paper. And it's hard to do like yo three years of your life sign off so do you think that the media like falsely accuses a lot of people of technically being rats when they hear about situations where someone is facing like the media will say they're facing life and then they sign a deal for three years yeah because they have no understanding of what they're actually talking about like gunner's plea deal made everyone think that a plea deal is snitching it's just the grounds in which he had to plea out you can get a plea deal and you're

the only person in the case i had a co-defendant my co-defendant my co-defendant my co-deafing and actually snitched on me. But with Gunna, part of Gunna's plea is he had to say, I have knowledge that people in Yassel have committed crimes. YSL is a gang. Like, he had to confirm certain shit that could be used against other people. Versus in my plea, I didn't have to fucking even talk about my co-defendant. It was just, yeah, I'm saying I did this, this, and this.

And I plea out to this. So the Gunner case is a hot topic right now. Do you think he snitched then by signing that? I'll say this, right? If thug says he didn't, then he didn't. If thug says he did, then he did. And that's his co-defendant? Yeah, because in my mind, like,

if I'm the main guy and they're trying to fucking, you know, put me down, and you say that you have knowledge of my guys committing crimes from drug dealing the murders, and you say that the thing that I created is a gang, that's going to be used against me. but what's crazy with the gunner situation is everybody took the same plea but everybody isn't getting called a snitch so how are you going to call gunna a snitch but not young thugs brother who took the same plea and not everyone else that took the same plea it's kind of like picking

faces you know what i'm saying so if they're not snitches he ain't a snitch and isn't there a difference if he would actually get called the trial and testified against him too yeah but the thing is everyone that pled out that's not that's a man that's not a man's not a difference if he's not he's not a possibility that they could get called all of them would get called yeah so it's like you can't say he's a snitch and not call all of them the same thing yeah you know what I mean now if he gets called and doesn't go that would be crazy that would change everyone's opinion you know what I'm saying so it's just like it really fucked him up because he was like the like the first one to plea out and then they caught him on video saying that shit like yeah they're a gang yeah you know but everyone played out

to the same thing it's also taken out of context too right when it what those certain clips and whatnot? I mean, they got the context of it. It's just like they only have him on video saying it. So they have him on video saying what he had to plea to. But if you look into everyone else's plea deal, they all had to admit to the same thing. Yeah, why so is a gang.

Yeah, I know that certain ones of them did this and that. So it's like, I don't know. I love how knowledgeable you are at all. You're like the head paperwork checker for the prison community. I'm the one that put Gunnar's paperwork out first. What would you to call yourself now? Are you like the professional prison paperwork checker? I have no fucking idea, bro.

I don't have been called the villain in hip-hop fucking. I forget what the fuck academics had called me. Because you have this massive reputation for giving no fucks and calling people out for what they are. Yeah. And it's crazy because a lot of people only know me for that. They only know me for exposing people and this and that. But it's like people that have been.

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We like his music. Is there anyone off limits that you'll go after or no? Anyone's on the table. I kind of dumbed. I kind of boomed. Everybody I found out. I ain't really never spared like anyone you know yeah that's funny yeah all right so you got these three years where did they send you first um so three years florida state prison i i was in confinement when i got sentenced so before they sentenced me um i went and i went to court and my co-defendant was in court

with me and they put us in the same like cell together and he's like oh so-and-so snitching so i'm like yeah he's like yeah someone so snitching i i bet so when that's the same like i i bet so When they take us back, I made a phone call and was like, yo, they say so-and-so snitching. Like, y'all boys going to handle that. That night, the sheriffs came in and cuffed me up and took me to confinement. So I went in there indefinitely. When my case, when I got sentenced, the captain came around in confinement. I was like, yo, captain, I already got sentenced to three years.

Like, can y'all let me out? So they ended up letting me out. But while I was in confinement, I got a piece of paper saying that my co-defendant, the same person that told me someone else was snitching, piece of paper said he turned state went this. So really it was him. And that was the last time me and him were ever in court together every other time. He bonded out. So I would be like in court in shackles and all that shit and I'd look over at him free with his lawyer and he wouldn't look at me. He wouldn't make our contact. So I already knew some fuck shit was happening. Then when I got that paper, I found out

he was snitching. So they let me out of confinement. I go back into a dorm. That's like a two-week period. You stay in the county and then they ship you off. So like in the middle of the night, they'll come through with mad shackles. They call your name They call my name And I was in there With another kid That was going to prison for four years

So like the white dudes in there They're like hood white dudes They got golds and shit They're like telling us Like yo you gotta stick together Y'all from Tampa this and that This kid's more amped than me Man when I go in there

I'm popping off on whoever I'm gonna fuck da da da And I'm just like I'm gonna just You know Take it as it comes We um We get shackled up

I go to prison first So they grab me me, they put me on a bus. It's mad people. I'm in the very back right seat of the bus. And I had this older white dude next to me. And we're chained to each other. And we take the drive. And it's like an hour and a half. We go to Orlando from Tampa. So we go to the Central Florida reception center, which is in Orlando because I was in Central Florida. There's four reception centers in Florida. So you got down south, which is I think like in Miami, CFRC, which is the central in Orlando. North, which is Lake.

Lake Butler and then Northwest, which I think is Washington. And we get there and the fucking atmosphere just changes. Everyone in the bus ride, we're talking and shit, then we get quiet. But when we get there, everyone's like, oh shit, here we go. And, you know, there's some guys that have been in prison before. But we pull in, and when we pull in, we get off and we see the CEOs waiting for us. And there's this legendary CEO called 66. He's like 6 foot 6.

It's black dude. So we all get out. We line up. The CEOs really ain't doing too much talking. And then he starts booting up. He's like, when I tell you to strip, you need to strip. You were going to get butt ass fucking naked, this and that, whatever, whatever. So he just like yells it out.

Strat. We all get butt-ass naked. I'm fucking dick out and everything in two seconds. We're just standing there, like, looking up. And there's like a row right here and a row in front of it. me we're all ass naked bro you gotta lift your dick lift your balls they search you whatever and they stop passing all clothes it was a handicapped dude with no legs they're expecting him to strip they're not helping them and nothing and the ceo's start going crazy like six six walked up to an

inmate and um it was a mexican dude he's like uh you ain't bring a towel it's like no sir he ain't got no towers and no sir he's like how you can get all that wet off your back i'm like oh shit like i'm damn near like laughing but shocked at the same time because this is a black see, oh, they told me all the white ones were going to be fucking the worst. Like, this one's going crazy. Yeah. And, you know, we got to go through the whole process. And the whole thing everyone was telling me is, like, hope to God, you don't get a red hat.

So in Florida, we have youth defenders, the YOs. Youth offenders is 14 to 24 years old. You can get sentenced as a youth offender, but you can also get reclassified at reception. This is my first time in prison. I'm 18, but I wasn't sentenced as a YO. So I'm thinking I'm going to go to an adult prison That's what you want You want to go to adult prison

The YO is the most violent shit in Florida So they reclassified me as a YO I go up to the thing They hand me the red hat And everybody that was in like The little holding cell that I was in They're all like Because it's like white boy with a red hat

Like they know I'm about to go through it But I don't know what I'm about to get into yet So you know I put the hat on We go through our shit whatever whatever We have to learn the extended day creed they hand us a piece of paper they say memorize this shit of you not gonna eat

so I'm fucking reciting the shit in my head like a rapper and they pass out the food trays or whatever so 66 is telling us to recite the creed he slapped the fucking tray

out of some kids' hand because the kid didn't memorize the shit so shit went all over them and there was some kids getting slapped and shit like already it started to get hands on

and they give us the baldies so he asked me he's like recite your creed this is my extended day crees Sir, watch your thoughts that become your worries. Watch your worries.

It become your feelings. What your feelings. It becomes your actions. What your actions. It becomes your habits. What your habits. It becomes your lifestyle. Watch your lifestyle.

It controls your destiny. Today, Chris, sir. So he hands me my tray. I'm like, fuck yeah. You know what I start smashing my shit. I'm looking at everybody else. They're fucking up, getting smacked and shit. So basically, we got to go over to age dorm.

Age dorm, Hotel dorm, hell dorm. That's for the YOs. So I don't know what the fuck happened. I think I had to get a shot or something. But I ended up getting separated from like the other YOs that were with me. There was like three or four of them. So I got to get walked over to age doing by myself. So I got my bunk.

I got a fresh shaved head with patches and fucking. I go over there. When I walk in, CEO brings me in. The other CEO comes up as old country as white dude. I can see where I'm about to go. They got one section for 18 and under. They got another one 19 and 20. And then they got another one that's 21 to 24.

They look like old men. They're in there drinking coffee. They're like 22, 23. But we're looking at them like they're fucking old people. 19 to 20. It's like a mix. 18 and under straight demons. Like these kids are fucking 16, 17.

Face tat. Skies fucking missing teeth, fucking look crazy as hell. So the CO is telling me like, yo, I'm not telling you what to do, but don't let nobody play with you. You know what I'm saying? And when I look through the glass, everyone's staring back at me.

there's no white like I don't see any white people so I'm like fuck this is this is it you know I'm really about to walk into my first like little prison experience so I walk in um he calls up my cell my roommate runs up this white kid and um the CEO brings me to myself this kid helps me like put my shit away took my shit whatever whatever then we got to walk back into the day room and it's dead quiet bro you can't hear nothing so everyone's just you know waiting for the CEO to leave the seal finally leaves. I'm standing there. And the whole group of black kids are at a table.

Like, yo, come in. They call me to the table. I sit down. I'm sitting right here. I got one kid in front of me, two kids right here, and everybody else just comes up. So I'm fucking nervous.

Like, you know what I mean? I got like, because everyone told me, like, the second you get in there, they're going to try you. So, like, I'm with it. They started asking me questions and shit. Where are you from?

Tampa. You bang, I'm blood. They're like, oh, yeah, who you know from Tampa? Man, who the fuck y'all know from Tampa? So they're asking me, Do I know Junebug. Yeah, I know Junebug.

We're from the same hood. Da-da-da-da-da-da. Junebug's right over there. I didn't even know. So they point to him out, man, what's up? So he knows me. You know what I'm saying? So I already know somebody in here.

So I'm like, all right, good. This is going good. They started asking me shit. I'm like, man, I'm going to be honest. I just want my T-O-H. Like I told him. So T-O-H, that's a test of hot. That's what everyone fears in Florida State prisons.

Like in the YOs. They don't really do that shit of adult camp. But you're going to get a T-O-H. It's inevitable. It's going to happen. So I'm just telling them. Like, I don't want to talk. I just want to get straight to it, bro.

Like, I don't, I'm nervous. I feel like I'm a stutter. I don't want to look soft. So I'm like, let's just, let's get it. Let's get right to it. They're like, yo, chill, you good, you good. Because I knew somebody already in this bitch. You know what I'm saying?

They're telling me I'm good, but I don't believe them because I've already been told. They're going to tell you you're straight. Then they're going to just flip you, whatever. So I end up going to my room. Everything was like actually straight. And then the little work crew comes out. and it's all bros, you feel me?

The bloods. So they're cleaning up. They come to myself. You're like, yo, you got to tighten up your bunky. I'm like, fuck. Because I just got to prison, right? And this is a white kid, so I'm not really too worried. Like, I'm bigger than him and everything.

But he got 15 years. I got three. So 15 years, to me right now, sounds like a life sentence. Like, I'm sleeping under his bunk. So I'm, like, looking up like, man, he got 15. He might kill me in my sleep of some shit. He knows he ain't coming home.

Like, that shit sounds like forever in there. So they're like, yo, you got to fight them. And they're at my cell, like, the cell's shut. You feel, feel? They're looking through the window. They want to watch. So I tell him like, yo, bro, you got to tighten up. And I'm like, I got to put on right now.

So I'm not going to lie. Like, I beat the shit out of him. I never even got hit. But it's not like I fought someone that was like a fighter anyways. You know what I'm saying? Like, I got an easy bunky to flip. So I beat him up. And, you know, the bros are like, all, hell, yeah, hell, yeah, whatever.

So they're satisfied. They leave. Now I'm stuck in the cell with this kid. After you beat him up. Yeah. So I'm thinking like, fuck, I'm for the die.

You know what I'm saying? Like, he probably got some shit in here I don't know about. So I'm trying to like get cool. And we got cool though. You know what I'm saying? We got real cool.

And he was stressing in that bitch, bro, about them 15 years. But that was like my first day in reception. After that, everything got chill. You became a prison warrior. Well,

because I got shipped to prison with an older blood from Tampa. So he was on the adult side. He's all tatted up and shit. And I run into him at medical, you know, because you still got to go through the process of reception. So the Jits, where we're at in the Jit dorm,

they're seeing me fucking with one of the bloods on the adult side. So that just made me look that much more official. And then the kid that I was in county with comes, the one that was all hyped up, gung-ho, like, yeah, I'm fighting everything, da-da-da. So he comes through him like, like, what's good, bro? People see I'm fucking with him.

So they're not really stepping to him. like that and his whole energy has just changed he's like yeah bro you know they said i was gonna get this much time but i got a year more and i just want to go home and see my daughter so i'm gonna focus on my appeal and i'm just gonna stick to my bible what fuck are you talking about like we're about to go to jit camp you know what i'm saying you're talking about you're gonna so you're not gonna rock with me so i kind of like took it personally like you're not gonna have my back you know what I mean because you was on that tough shit in the county. So I'm like, bro, they're going to tee away at you.

They're going to do this. He's like, they're not going to do nothing to me. They're not going to do nothing. I'm like, I bet. So they put me on the work squad. So I'm like, fuck it. I'm going to do something to him. So I took the big ass brum.

You know, the push brum. It's like a T. And I grabbed the push brum and I got two other people with me on the cleanup crew. They popped his door. I went in there and smacked the shit out of his ass with the brum. It's like, I'm going in there, fuck it. So I go in there, pop his ass. Like, what's up?

break it off, he broke it off. So, like, when somebody's trying to extort you in Florida State prison in the jig camps, like, they're going to fuck you up and tell you to break it off. You know what I mean? So you were trying to extort him. Yeah. Like, if you think they're not going to try you, I'm going to try you. And he first quarter broke it off.

Wow. He was a bitch. Because in the county, you was tough as fuck. Like, you were doing more talking to me. Yeah. And you come in here talking about a Bible. All right. Hit him with a broomstick.

He breaks it off. You know what I mean? He shows his cards as a sign of weakness. Yeah. Well, because it's like, bro, there ain't no Bible. in here, bro. Like, God ain't for to help you in here. You got to stand on your shit. Like, we went, they had us, uh, when we were in reception, they took us to like a church event that we all had to go to. And the church people are coming up to us and then like, oh, would you like to praise Jesus

and join us in faith? And then I'm like, nah. Like, how come? I was on. Be honest with you, there's no God in here. That shit ain't going to help me. You don't know what I'm about to go through. You're not going to be able to process it. I can't even tell you what's already happening here because you're not going to believe it. Because the CEOs are already slagery. dropping the fuck out of us in age dorm. Like, we'll line up to slap the fire out your ass. You know what I'm saying? They hit you in the face, back of the head, whatever.

And they're letting the inmates jump on you. Like, we're testing each other. As long as no one's getting cut or poked up, they were letting it happen. You know what I mean? And this is just reception. Like, I'm thinking that this shit's tough. Shit was nothing.

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by state and insurance plan. So I go to Sumter Correctional Institution. Sumter, it's an adult prison, but it's got a jit side 18 and under. And this shit is a whole another ballgame. Like, I thought it was intimidating

going into reception. We get the Sumter. They put us inside of, it's like the goody dorm. So it's like half reception, half the good kids. You know what I mean? nothing really intimidating until we go to chow for the first time

so the goody dorm is separated and then in the other dorms it's like e dorm d dorm d dorm f dorm is the jungle dorm d dorm d dorm is like the bad dorm you go to when you get out of confinement so we line up for chow i think we were in c dorm i think that's what it was we line up for chow i'm in the back of the line with like the people that i know from the city and shit and um F dorm comes marching up. So we got to march.

HIP, hype, hip, hype. It's like military shit. We got a PT and everything. We see F dorm coming, bro. And we know that that's the jungle dorm. Like, everybody, like, whistling. So I look back. I'm like, man, fuck F dorm.

I look back. These kids are like 6, 4, 6, 5. No white kids. Everybody looks crazy as shit. All their eyes are like this. They got fucking crazy skies on their face from getting hit with raises and shit. Like, everyone just looks. nuts. Everybody's got mad tats on their face and fucking, they're just marching up to us.

I'm like, oh, fuck. We're about to get into it because there's no CO here with us. You know what I'm saying? Like, we're in the back of the line in the cut. As soon as they get close to us, they get depressing us. Yo, where you from? What you bang? So I had some kid come up to me asking me, man, blah, what's up? Come to find out, I'm talking to one of my bros. This kid named Shaq from Tallahassee. And he's like known on this compound. You know what I mean? And so you got to come with that energy back.

Like you got to, oh, I'm this, something that. You can't show that you pussy for nothing. So Shaq loved that shit, but I don't even know who I'm talking to. So then he tells me, like, you're on blood. And I'm thinking he, because they'll do shit. Like, they'll tell you they that. And they're not even that. Just the real you win and make you think like you one of them.

And then they'll set you up and get you popped or something. Like, you'll be talking to your ops and you don't even know who your ops are. You know what I mean? Or like your own people. like if you blood they'll be like yo we crip just to see how you react

oh I don't got no smoke with no cribs now they know you pussy you know what I'm saying yeah but if they're like oh crap you'd be like man

fuck y'all then they're like all yeah he's gonna stand on business so they want to see like how you're gonna react type shit

and um you know I held that shit down I got that energy for their ass whatever but while I'm in the reception door I end up getting caught

with a poker in my bunk because I hear the Zos already trying to get me from around because the bloods that came on the bus like two weeks before me,

they all got hit up in the barbershop. They got fired up and shit like that. So getting fired up is like you put like a lock and a sock and you hit somebody over the head with it or a brick in a canteen bag. And one of them got hit with the clippers in the barbers shop.

You got fired up with the clippers. So the second day here on blood and I'm the only blood that got sent there, they're already on my ass. Like, they want to get me from rounds. So my boy, Joe, a little Italian kid, he hooked me up with a poker. So I had a poker in my bunk.

They flipped the whole door. They search it. They put it through the metal detector. They find the poker. I get sent to confinement. So first quarter, I got a weapons charge. A 60 days in confinement possession of a weapon. So you lost some good time or something like that?

I don't even know if I had good time to lose at that point. So you were doing that full three years regardless. No, I already had six months off from the county. Okay. So I had six months time served from the county jail. But, yeah, I go straight to confinement. And then in confinement is where the first time I had a customer. Where you had to shake someone.

Nah, cut them. I cut them with a razor. What's the difference between cutting and like shanking or what's- Shank and stabbing somebody. So even like with stabbing like there's levels to stab in somebody because it's like we had like in the jig camp we have more pokers than knives. So a poker is like chain link fence. We'll rip that off and then straighten it out into like an ice pick.

You get hit with that. That's getting poked up. You know what I'm saying? Oh, there's like fat fucking nails in the ground that literally are the size like my thumb like with wise and we'll get them and shopping them bitches up they look like screwdrivers that are shoppened up you get hit with something like that that's a poker versus a knife like we never really use the word shank that's more like some like prison movie shit okay but if you had like a knife that's getting stabbed you know what I'm saying like there really

weren't knives in the jit camp it was just pokers and raises what what does a poker look like what are they using to make a poker like a ice pick like what the chain link fence like you just straighten that shit out or anything that's just like like a fucking pipe like something like that like just something that looks like this you're just shopping it up no you're not using it to kill someone

it's just to hurt them I mean you had people getting hit with the bitches but none of them are really dying you know because like chain link fence like the fence poakers they they get dull and they bend when they hit bone so like poca's really used to get used to TOH people like they'll hold you down

hold your arms out and everything and just hit you up in your rib cage the bottom of your feet your ass cheek fucking everything that's like sensitive and hurts but they'll do it to your body so one you can't fight back when they're done because you're so sore the next day and they're trying to extort you

so they'll get you up in the rib cage and shit and you had kids getting poked up 150, 20 times have you ever been poked? Hell yeah I got poked at reception what does it feel like? Fucking hurts it stings it burns and then like it really hurts

more the next day. So the next day is when that pain doesn't spread through your muscle. So like you'll try to roll over and like everything fucking hurts like you freeze up, bro. So it hurts more than next day. Is there risk of infection too or like a tetanus? I got three, uh, tetanus shots in one year. So do the doctors immediately give you a tetanus shot when you get poked up? If you get caught, but I didn't, when I got poked, I didn't get caught. So was there, looking back on it, could you avoid it all of this if you just went into prison not getting affiliated? Like someone like me could I have survived there without getting into trouble or no fuck no they're gunned we on your ass the second you come in there what you come in looking like how you look yeah your ass first quarter there's

no way to just be like good out of the way if you pay if i pay what you go in there and you're like yo like take all my money like yeah you're straight how much would i have to pay you to be safe in there i mean bro we were bombs so it's like we had no money as long as you had some shit and not for nothing like fifty dollars i get somebody popped like i got cut over fifty I had a $50 hit on my head. All right, so we're going to get to the buddy part in a sec. Your first time poking someone, what's that like? Well, the first kid I hit, I cut him with a razor.

Yeah, the first time I'm cutting someone. All right, so they put me in a room with a Crip, right? And his Crip brother, just a kid named Flex from Orlando, I was actually cool with him. Me and him used to go back and forth, like, because we were mad banged out when we went to reception. So, like, I wouldn't pronounce nothing with a seat. So if we were going to hit canteen,

Man, when we hit in Bantine, like, and then he wouldn't pronounce nothing would it be, or he wouldn't say five. He'd say jive and, like, our slang, like, we were really, like, banged out with it, trying to be, like, super gang members, because I don't know, that's just what it was. We felt like we were supposed to do that. So me and Flex were cool. Flex was in confinement with me. And he tells my Bunky to fight me to see where my Bunky's at.

So me and my Bunky get down, I beat the fuck out my Bunky. Not even trying to sound like I'm superman. Because I'll get to the stories where I got beat up and fucked up and all that. But I beat the fuck out of him. I didn't even get hit by him. So I flush him. And there was a situation where I told him started working. So we had to get moved to a cell upstairs.

So we go and mind you, me and this kid got cool. Like, we fought, but we were cool. Like, he tried to put me down with pen pals and, like, wrote his mom. Like, yo, if you got any friends that'll write him, and his mama wrote me back. Like, his mom wrote me. She sent me like five stamps and sent him like three. They're like, what the fuck? She sent you more than me.

Shit was crazy. But his mama was writing me. So we get moved on to a cell up. One of my bros is across the tier, like I can see in his window. So he tells me he's going to cut my bunky when he get out of confinement. And we like doing sign language and shit. We call that shit texting when we're in confine. We're texting each other.

So I'm like, for what? And he more or less says that my bunkey called him, you know, a derogatory term for bloods. So he's like, I'm going to cut him. I'm like, man, I'll do that shit. So he's like, what's up? I got a raise in the room right now. So I'm thinking in my head.

Like when I say I'll do it, like I'll do it when we get out of confinement. But now he's like, I got one right now. So I'm like, fuck. You know what I mean? I don't want to look pussy because this is my first time getting into a situation like this. So I'm like, I shoot the razor. So what he does is it's a straight razor, one blade that we get the shave with. He broke it in half.

And he put the half behind the stamp on an envelope. And then he put some pictures in the envelope. So the CO comes around. Yo, CO, hey, can you pass these pictures to a cell? Da-da-da-da-da. C-O brings the shit over to me. I get the shit, I get the razor. I take the raise and I tie it on on one of those flex pens that you get in confinement.

I take string from my bunk, tie it on. I use the stamp to, like, cover the bottom half of the razor so that when I tie it, it doesn't break through. And I got the shit made or whatever. So I'm sitting on the toilet. He calls my bunky to the door. My bunkey goes to the door. Now, I'm sitting on the toilet.

I know what I'm about to do. I have no idea how it's going to play out. I don't know if blood's going to fucking shoot everywhere. I've never done this before. Like I've said it, like when you think of violence, like if you think of shooting, it's more like common. Like you see the movies. You play the video games. It's like, oh, yeah, shooting, shooting, shoot.

Nobody ever says, yo, cut his face open. You're like, why the fuck type of sick shit are you on? But there's his president. So this is how to get down in there. And he goes up to the window and I ran up and I grabbed the back of his head with my hand and pushed his face into the glass. I went to hit in his neck with the razor. So I got him from like here to hip. There was three cuts

So one hair One hair one here So I'm just hitting I'm just hit them Bam bam bam I back up I'm just as scared As he is at this point

Like both of our eyes Are wide as fuck I don't know If he's just gonna start crashing me or whatever So he holds his neck And you know When you cut somebody

Like Because he's black So you see like Pink white meat It's fucking gross But it didn't squirt It just kind of like Leaked

If that makes sense I back up I got the raise in my hand He grabs his neck and he starts kicking the door. So I'm like, oh, fuck. You know, he's bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb. So now I know the COs are going to come in.

COs, you can hear when they fat ass be coming up the fucking stairs and you can hear the keys jingling and shit. So when I know they made it to the top tier, I threw the razor in the toilet. But I'm thinking the whole time the second I throw this razor, he's going to crash me. I'm going to get his blood all over me, all this shit. I throw the razor in the toilet.

I flush that shit. The COs come up. up to the window and they're like, what's going on? And he shows him his neck and he's like, I want to kill myself. So I'm shocked. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm thinking this shit in my head. He said, what?

They cuff him up, they cuff me up, they take him out the cell. He ended up getting taken to the hospital, like fix his shit up or whatever. But he never snitched on me. And I never got in trouble for cutting him. But my buddy that was across the hall watched everything happen. Wow. So he ends up coming back and they put him in the cell right next to mine. So when they take him out for showers

Like his shit's all like fixed up now Like I'm talking shit on the window Like ah look at you He's like it's all good I'm gonna get you You know what I mean We used to talk shit back and forth We're in the cell right next to each other

But that was my first time Fucking popping somebody And then like my name like fucking spread Through the whole Jit camp You earned your stripes What? Because my last name is Cherry Which is horrible to have in prison

But my name they're like Yo y'all got a white boy named Cherry And they usually think it was like a blood nickname Like nah That's literally my life last name but they're like y'all yeah i got a white boy back there he just popped one of the cribs they're like they like yeah like because they all see me when i first came yeah and then like they would periodically check up on me like the kids in the other dorms like we'd see each other

in crossing they'd be like yo you still i mean hell yeah because they thought i was gonna fold my flag or some shit you know what i'm saying yeah so then when i get out of confinement i see everyone and they're like yo we heard about you da da da da da da da so my name is already like starting to go up And they put me in D dorm, which is the dorm you go when you get out of confinement and I beat up another crib in there. And then fucking a GD, a gangster disciple, he had his finger shot off. It was like missing. And I guess we got into it with the GD. So like, I'm trying to see what's up with him.

So when I was in school, they wrote like fake gang knowledge and put it on my bunk and then told the CEO like, yo, he got some shit in his bunk. So the CEO searched my bunk. They found that shit. And they took me to confinement under investigation. For gang knowledge. How did the 36 months you did, right? How much did you spend in solitary? At least a year, like more than a year.

Does that shit fuck you up to this day mentally at all? I'm sure it does, yeah. Do you, like, think about it? I don't think about it, but I know it, like, scientifically. They say that shit fucks you up. You ever have dreams about prison at all? Yeah, more than I like. Yeah.

You ever saw, like, a therapist or anything about it? Mm-mm. I never saw a therapist, but on starting the YouTube channel, the more, because originally my channel was all about my experience in prison. So I'd have to sit down and really like relive this shit from day one. And the more I tried to think of and remember everything that happened, the more I would dream about it. And the more realistic the dreams became because it's like,

I've talked to people about it. They'll ask me, like whether it's a conversation with a friend or someone I meet. And they're like, um, You know, how, how is it, you know? Like, how is it remembering all this shit? And I was like, it kind of fucks me up thinking about it. And I dream about it because before you ever have sex, you don't really dream about having sex. Like, if you do, like, you're kind of getting to it and, you know, she's about to take it off and then you wake up.

You can't visualize what you haven't experienced in life. Once you've had sex, you can have sex. sex in your dreams and you can have these wet dreams. It's the same thing with violence. So I never visualized extreme violence in my dreams until I lived through it. And living through it, you feel the pain. You feel how it feels and I would relive that in my dreams. I would get held down and stabbed and this and that.

Or I would be doing it to someone else or I'd be watching it. Like I'd watch it get done to someone and I can't look away. And it's fucking extreme, bro. Because it's like when I got cut, they put me in a cell after I got cut. They didn't change my uniform or nothing. So I had to smell that blood for a couple of days. It's just like that smells like metal. And that scent sticks with you.

So when I have these dreams, it's not like it's just a visualization of seeing someone get stabbed. It's the hearing them gurgle on that shit because they got hit in their neck. It's the smell of the blood. that's coming out of their fucking body like it's all of these things i'd wake up drenched in sweat like fucked up bro yeah but it's like who am i gonna talk to about this that's gonna relate other than other people that have lived through it yeah so it's just like when i talk to my homies that i did time with they're the only ones that get it because they go through the same shit do you think that like america creates this like putting individuals in these situations where they're forced to fight

or essentially survive in that case? No, I mean, I can't blame it on a system or a government. I mean, I got to take self-accountability. Like, I put myself in there. Nobody made me do the shit that I did. But when it comes to the prison system, I mean, to be honest, bro, I used to try to blame the system. I used to try to say, oh, y'all want us to live like, uh-uh.

But then I was like, if rolls were reversed, if I was a CEO, would I be a good CEO? I'd most likely be the CEO that when you try me I'm beating the fuck out of you, gassing you, you know what I'm saying? Like I wasn't a good inmate. Why would I be a good CEO? And then how do you be a good CEO?

What could I do better for that situation? Like, people are people. You know what I mean? And people are going to be violent and when people get put in a situation where it's like that, like society and prison is two different places. People in this society can't understand

how the functioning is in that society. Like out here you got all these groups that are ultra-sensitive and if you talk about them you get canceled. That shit doesn't exist in there. That shit doesn't get respected in there. The only thing that really gets respected in prison is violence.

So once you adjust to that and then you come back into this world, it's hard not to go back into the other, especially if you can thrive in the other. And it's like, I can't really say, like, I can blame like, oh, this or that because I don't know what could be done better to get rid of that situation.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Now, we were talking in the car that you didn't have much money growing up, especially in prison. How would you get money in prison and survive?

Because no one was putting money on your books. Yeah, so when I went to prison, the victim in my case, everybody thinks that it's my uncle. It's not my uncle. My aunt's girlfriend's brother was the victim in my case.

This dude was trying to be like a cool male role model in my life when I was a teen. He took me to the gun range before so I knew he had mad guns in the house I ended up hitting his house some dirtbag shit but it's like when you don't give a fuck you don't give a fuck um what was the question again about how you made money in prison right so we'll just edit that part out where I ask you the what the question of it so because I robbed somebody close to my aunt she didn't really

she didn't want to send money and I couldn't blame her for that and I wouldn't blame her for that and I wasn't in contact with any other family members. So I didn't have any money in prison. So when you're starving like that, because the food trays, you can only eat like 70% of what's on the fucking tray because you're going to have some shit that's on that tray that you don't even know what it is.

It's unidentifiable. You don't even think it's real food. So extortion. Robin. If you're not willing to fight for your food, you're giving it up. If you're not willing to, you know what I'm saying?

That's literally how it is. Like biscuit day. Biscuit cake coffee cakes Chicken for dinner My motherfuckers is getting flipped over that shit Like dead ass Like flip bro like if you're not willing to fight for you So like say it's me and you

Yeah say I'm sitting at the chat hall Eating my chicken biscuits You're not even touching it bro We already established this in the dorm You're not touching it When me and you sit down together That shit's going right on my tray But in reception they had that shit so tight rope

Because they know how bad extortion is If you got caught Swapping food with somebody else, like you would get the shit beat out of you for that because they know what time it is already. So you would have to like be smooth with it. Like you would stop picking that whatever you have. I'd smash my shit and then we'd quickly swap trays. But like people in your situation would do it sloppily so we'd purposely get caught because then I'd get fucked up. Yeah, but then I'm getting hurt after that, right?

You could, but I might get taken a confinement. So when you approach someone to extort someone, how does that go down? violently, quickly. You don't even give them an option? Straight aggression. No, yeah, but you introduce the situation. It's like fucking, like Navy SEAL training, bro. Like, they get up in your face and scream at it.

It's the same shit we do. Run off in yourself. Slap the fuck out of somebody. You got their full undivided attention now. Like, they don't know what the fuck's going on. Are you fucking run in there with a razor? Bro. Like, not in reception, but at the actual jig camp,

people used to get their pants pulled down and they would grab a broomstick like they're going to. and fuck him with a broomstick. Yeah. You got a broomstick tapping at your asshole. You might give up that food. You know what I'm saying? And some kids actually did get fucked with broomsticks.

Their intestines would get blown out and everything. Extortion was crazy, bro. People would hold raises to your meat, raises to your neck. One of my homies, they put boiling water on his balls trying to extort him. One kid got a lighter lit right under his dick. They held him down, lit the lighter. And it burnt his hole shut, his dick hole. But is it escalating to that right off the bat or do I get a chance?

If I walk in, are you coming to me and say, yo, you're giving me my tray? If you're right, like, if this is reception, none of that's really happening. Like, you're just getting ran down on. You might get beat up or something. It's more like simple. But if it's at the actual prison, it's immediate, bro. Just to assert dominance. It gets that serious, that fast.

When I went to Lancaster, when I walked in the dorm, the kid that walked in in front of me, they ran up on them. Well, one kid's talking to him face-to-face. The other one put him in a choke-co, started to poke him up in his back. Holy shit. So how many guys do you have, you're collecting from weekly in prison? It just depends on you. It depends on the gang.

It depends on who you fuck with. Like, say me and you are bunkeys, bro. You might just be paying me on the low. And no one knows about it. No. Now, you were telling me a story about you guys would steal commissary. I've heard of that happening in the federal prisons.

How would that work? Well, I never stole because stealing wasn't respected, but we used to rob. So... Isn't that the same thing? Mm-mm. Okay. Stealing is like you leave the cell.

and I sneak in your cell and grab your shit and sneak back out. Gotcha. And people would do that as a test. Like, we would steal from our own people. So say you were from Tampa, I'd send somebody in your cell. They grab all your shit. You're supposed to walk in there and see your shit's missing. And come on.

Beechay, Baycheck, Baycheck. Where to fuck my shit at? Y'all got to line it up. I don't give a fuck. Whatever. Like, you're supposed to, like, crank up. If you walk out of your cell with your head down quiet and you don't say nothing, we just, we're going to eat that.

And we know you weak. You know what I mean? So people would do that as a test. But stealing isn't respected. And if someone's sneaking around stealing people's shit, they'll end up getting flipped because they could steal from anybody. You know what I mean? But we would catch people coming back from the canteen line or at the canteen line.

They get a big bag full of shit, whatever, whatever. Someone runs down on them, put something to them. We grab the bag, bus off. There's a lot of that going on. And you guys are all breaking it off? Not they breaking it off. We're breaking it down. But breaking it off is a term like getting extorted.

We're getting their shit Yeah, that's what I mean Sharing it amongst us, yeah Now what about How sacred are like prison cells Like are there rules Where another inmate can't go into your cell While you're not there

What are like the policies? Well in the Jit camps Like I was in the jungle dorms So like Sumter is all open bay There's no cells So Lancaster I went to B dorm which is the jungle It's like 60 70 something people

On each side No cameras No cells Bunk beds everywhere You gotta wrap your face up to sleep And nights You don't get cut What do you need to wrap your face?

You have to wrap a T-DUrub shirt around your face you don't get cut in your sleep really this every night you're rapid but then how do you pay attention to see what's happening you take the shirt and you rub it on the concrete so you can see through the fabric holy shit i've never heard of this that shit was fucking bad there's no cameras bro does the t-shirt actually protect you from getting cut from the state raiser yeah but if they hit you with a box cutter it goes through all that shit and what about your body aren't you worried about that at all i mean people used to you know you got your jacket you got a blanket some people will put books in the fucking jacket if they

want to build like a body suit or whatever but you really didn't see that shit happening like that. You take like your laundry bag and put it over your head so nobody smacks a brick off the top of your head but like you have people getting like you've seen foot lockers

they'd fill them up full of books and drop them off on somebody's head they start having seizures and shit shaking. So in these situations is it safer to be on the top bunk? Well unless you're like in a corner they're all one level bunks or like against the wall.

So I was by the water fountain like or the first time I wanted to be to them I was in like one of the middle rows So I just had a single bunk But no You don't want to be on the top bunk either Now what about showers Are you guys like wearing boots to the shower

Bringing a chair Having a shank How does that work? No so you got your slides Or your crocs And you gotta go in there With your boxes on And like the COs

They don't let you go in there With your boots on They're not gonna trip out that But like depending on where you're at Like we would rotate Like Lancaster It was real deal of warfare So like all the bloods

Would be on one shower The Zos on one shower the Kings on one shower and we would rotate so if I'm under the water homie behind me got the knife the other homie soaping up the other homie got a poker and then I get out the water they pass me the strap now I'm holding it down what they're doing and we just go in a circle until we're all clean and we'd all leave like you'd shit with one of your homies with you because like you'll get ran down on the toilet bro the motherfucker yeah like this is my motherfuckers they'll fire you up on the

toilet hit you with a brick hit you with a broomstick there was a kid that was taking the shit on the toilet at something he got up knocked out to their ass like dick swinging like because we'll shit with one pants and I in a one leg in our pants and one leg so you can get up and fight with dick out and everything so you don't trip over it mm-hmm holy shit yeah what about when you're in the cell what are the rules that you guys have like courtesy flushing everything do you guys have that in these joints at the jit camp it's anything goes bro it's like being in high school nobody really give a fuck so you leave the shit in the toilet whatever no you mean you're gonna flush this shit you know what I'm

But like when I went to adult prison, that's when it's more regulated. Like, don't bring random people in the cell or, you know, make sure everything is, like, you put water on that shit. You take a shit. So when's the shit hit the water, you flush it. You know what I'm saying? Or you flush while you piss so they don't have to listen to your piss. You know what I mean?

Like little shit, like, if you got to fight in the cell, like, stick your ass by the crack in the dough, so it's fighting out the cell. Like, little, like, weird shit like that. But keeping the cell clean, you can't be no dirty-ass bunky. You know, stuff like that. There's so many fucking rules. Yeah, but like you said with the top bunk, like why you wouldn't want to be in the top bunk, because you'll get pulled right off of the top bunk.

So you know how high up a top bunk is. Imagine getting pulled off your head just hits the floor. Yeah. You know what I mean? And the same thing with the bottom bunk. If you're on a bottom bunk, but you got the top above you, they'll run down on you from both sides and you can't get out. You're just getting hit up. What was your nickname?

Did they give you a nickname? No, just calling out my last name. Because the CEOs, they call us all by our last names. So a lot of us went by last names And some of us had nicknames All right So what year do you end up getting out? 2015

2015 What's that like after you get out It was hard to readjust After like three years of just violence Hell yeah Are you getting back into shit Like right when you got out? Not right when I got out

So my mom We reconnected before I got out She was like yo you can come live with me And then that fucking failed So I went back to Boston And I had to find a program I could go into because I didn't know where to live So I couldn't get into a reentry program for inmates because I wasn't convicted in mass

I found a drug program so I called the drug program like yo I used to fuck with pills and shit I just got out of prison I don't want to get back into it like how old do you I'm like I'm 20 so um this is right before my 21st birthday so look you just got out of prison I'm like yeah like uh all right yeah we'll take you so I had to go to like a little holding thing for two weeks and then they put me into a program all of these kids are like from the suburbs like taking pills and shit, whatever, whatever. And then I come in there, like, haven't been to prison, skies, fucking this and that.

And they're, like, the other kids are like, what the fuck? But the older dudes that were in there were mad, cool, because these guys are, like, done time, fed time, whatever. All older Boston dudes from Southie, Charlestown, whatever. And, yeah, so I go through the program. I stop meeting these guys. One of the guys at the drug meetings,

he just did, like, 35 or 30-something years, 25 years. He killed his mom. Oh, wow. crazy situation. He was on drugs and shit, but he was the first person who approached me at like a meeting because we had to do the A.A.N. I'm an age, I'm an addict. Like, I had to do all that shit. And I would stand with my back against the wall. I'd find a corner and just stand there. I wouldn't let nobody like near me and shit. I'd just be watching everything. He peeped the energy

first quarter. He walked right up to me. He said, how much time you just did? I was like, I did three. He's like, I just did 25. I was like, you know, I'm here. You need somebody to talk to him. We got cool, you know what I'm saying? Like he would give me advice and his energy calmed me down because it's like you just did way more time than I just did. So obviously I'm not going to. But then again, he was in mass. So like I was meeting a lot of guys that did time in mass. I was like, I did time in Florida. This shit's different. So at one of the meetings, um, they had me go up and speak and I started speaking and I was like decent at speaking in front of people. And I started talking about my time and prison. I noticed there was like this group of guys that were kind of like, they're trying to be

like tough, like, all historian, official, whatever. So they tried to press me after the meeting. Like, they came up. And this one dude's like, yo, you said you were in Florida. I was in Florida. Where'd you do your time at? And I just list off everywhere that I was at. You know what I mean? And he's like, oh shit. I'm like, yeah, like you can Google me. Like, yeah. A DC number, C. 07652. Like he was like oh all right kid Like he thought I was fucking up there faking And some shit like he was gonna come up and Fucking say something I'm not gonna know the answer

Like you know like that stolen valor shit they do with the military Like he was trying to do some shit like that Yeah And no I was really in there And um I get out of the program I'm bouncing around and like fucking sober houses And then I meet a girl and I end up moving in with her

In the middle of the hood And then I started getting into some shit Just like back to the shit that you're in before I started like I mean put it this way I caught a case Um They said I was robbing people

Off of dating apps Like people are getting set up You see this is why felons get banned on Tinder Jake I got in the courtroom I got banned from Tinder Jake you're giving us a bad name You know it says in the bylaws on Tinder or whatever

Like felons can't use this date again Does it really? Yeah this is why girls don't trust the felons They love the felons but they don't trust us. Yeah, so they accused me of having a fake page and, um... Were you robbing men or women? Nah, it was a guy that got robbed.

So you were pretending like you were a guy or a girl? I wasn't doing none of the pretending, but I was just the motherfucker that was there when they showed up type shit. Yeah. So I got to jail for this, right? Yeah. You didn't, right? No, I got booked for this shit. Oh, you did?

So you could talk about it then? Yeah. All right, so you got to share this. So basically, like, they were, you were. were investigating a white guy in my area for multiple robberies. And I was the only white guy that lived in this fucking area. So I'm in Dorchester, right on the Roxbury line. And in this situation, this guy thought he was meeting with some girl or whatever.

And the paperwork, like, I covered all the paperwork. It basically says somebody approached him and pulled a large chrome firearm pointed in his face and was like, give me all your shit. And he ain't want to give it up. person said, I'm going to blow a hole in you. So basically the situation was this kid had fucking pepper spray on him. And I'm, you know, whatever. But I'm like, all right, I'm not going to, because he got pepper spray.

So I go back to the house and I change clothes, put shit up. I'm going to just whip his ass because I've been sprayed in prison. So when I come back outside, he already called the police. So when I see him, he starts running. I start going after him. The police pull up. And I get caught right there. So I got hit with I'm the assault with a team.

intent to rob and assault with a dangerous weapon by means of a firearm, which is like the equivalent to armed robbery in Massachusetts. So I get picked up for that shit. They take me to the police station in Roxbury B2. They keep me there. I think it was overnight. And then I went to court the next day when I go to court. Like I never had to go to jail jail, but I had to stay in the station or whatever.

So when I go to court, they bring up the shit to the judge. And they're like, all right, here's the phone number. That's not my number. It's fucking texting app or some shit. That ain't my number. Here's the description of the robber. That's not what I'm wearing. They described no tattoos, but there was no gloves or a mask.

I got face tattoos. I got a tattoo covering my hand. I'm right-handed. If I'm pointing a gun at you, you can see my hand tats. None of that was described. So I got out on a $500 bail bomb, whatever the fuck it was. And I fight the case. So my girl ends up getting pregnant at the time, and I plea out in the case.

So they dropped the robbery. basically the state came up with the plea they were like we're not going to investigate you for anything else you're going to plea out to the assault with a firearm we're going to drop the intent to rob and you're going to get two and a half years probation and we'll leave it at that so you got off pretty good

well they presented to the judge and the judge denied it so the judge is like it's July 2016 you just got out in July 2015 for another firearm offense you need to go back to prison I'm like, what? What the fuck? They came up with this deal.

Not me. I just said, yeah. You're talking about sending me back to fucking prison. What the fuck? So we go in front of the judge again. He accepts the plea. But he's like,

I'm going to give you two and a half year probation with a two and a half year suspended sentence. One violation, you've got to do the entire two and a half. I don't care if you're on your last day. If you fuck up in your last day, you've got to do the entire two and a half. So I sign off. They put me in the choice program at Roxbury Court

where you basically got to show up. It's like a meeting. you eat breakfast with the fucking the judge and everything and like all the other kids in the program and um you got to work or volunteer a certain amount of hours so i got a job at a pizza place it was paying me under the table but the manager was driving me to court and we got in a one argument i quit and then i got a job at a smoke shop i start working at the smoke shop i break the sales records out the smoke shop i become manager i hired another kid from the program i'm working 40 plus I was I'm killing it.

Whole time I'm selling cartridges out of the smoke shop and shit like that. Because we could legally gift, like you buy a pen, we give you a cartridge. But I was bringing in my own shit. The owner of the business came to court on my behalf and vouch for me. And they terminated my probation early. That's great. So I got the probation ended and then I got fired from the smoke shop. And then you became a prison YouTuber.

Yeah, I got fired from the smoke shop because they found out I took all the fucking customers. And in the midst of not having a job, I just started watching YouTube. And I saw Lockdown 23 and 1. Who's another big prison YouTuber? Yeah, he was like the biggest one besides after prison show. So I go on his Facebook and he's like, yo, if you want to get an interview, you know, write a comment with a little bit of your story in it. So I just wrote this fucking paragraph. And it wasn't him that liked it, but mad people liked it.

And that's what got his attention. He brought me off for it. And that just blew your shit up? Yeah, that shit went crazy. Because it was like the first time no one really heard of a white blood and nobody had heard any stories out of Florida State Prison. So mine was like the, like from a young guy. Because Brian Bruton, uh, bounce back B, I don't know if you know who that is.

He was around in the beginning for the prison YouTube is he did an interview with Big Herk and he was like one of the only ones out of Florida that was sharing their story except for Christina Randall. But I was like the first like young guy that. went through the wiles no one ever heard of the wiles they thought i went to juvie like now this ain't juvie this is state prison we go to the same reception as the adults it's all state prison it's just this is where they put the young motherfuckers at so i did that interview that shit went crazy you know i think it's more than just being young in your story it's a mix

of that and your energy like you're able to tell an interesting story like you just gave us some great prison stories and i could see you now why everyone loves you for that sense like you're not just rambling on about shit. Like you're able to tell an entertaining story. It's like watching a TV show. No, that's what people have said. And they're like, you know, how to, because at the smoke shop, I used to tell these stories.

And you have people that probably didn't believe it. And then some that were really intrigued. They were like, yo, you should write a book. You should do this. You should do that. Whatever. They're just telling me I should do something. I didn't know what to do, though.

And people would ask me, like, how'd you get good at, like, telling stories? It's like, it's from confinement. Every time you get a new bunky and confine me, You get a new one like every 30 or 60 days because that's the average time of a DR of a disciplinary report. So you get a new bunky.

The only thing we got to do is talking this motherfucker. Like, where are you from? What have you gone through? Why are you in here? You just fucking relay your whole life story. And then, you know, when you've lived through some crazy shit, it's kind of easy to recite that. And it just turned into fucking me talking into a camera.

And that was weird. Like, because everyone watched that interview with him was like, yo, start a channel. I started a channel. And I'm just looking into my phone. Like, well, this is what happened I was the prison. And that shit fucking blew up. It prepared you for this.

What year was this that you started on YouTube? 2019. Now, you guys got in at a good time when it was like right before COVID because COVID exploded these prison YouTube channels too. COVID exploded everything because no one had nothing to do, but just stay at home and watch YouTube. And there's this huge market of adults and older, you know, men and women that love hearing these stories. Yeah. Like, I'm sure. a lot of your fan bases, people in their 40s, 50s, or 60s, like watching your stuff?

I think my, because people used to hate and they were like, oh, only kids watch him. And, you know, he's talking about gang bang and it's bad for the kids. I have more elderly people that watch my channel than I do people under the age of 18. Yeah. So my average was like 30 to like 45. That was like my main, you know, view, whatever. Are you ever worried about like glorifying prison? Like, because people accuse us of doing that in some senses.

Like, are you worried that a kid will get the wrong message when you talk about like the Grand Theft Auto stuff and the prison violence and whatnot? I feel like that's the right message because they can actually relate to that. So the problem for me was like when I was in that program in Orlando, we had a guy come and he was a speaker and I just didn't take him serious. He was like, you know, when I was in prison, I would hear people getting raped. And I would have to listen to that. Man, I don't give a fuck. You sound scared. Like, I'm not going to listen to you.

But if I had someone come in there and was like, yeah, I stabbed him. I shot him. He's going to have my undivided fucking attention. Like, oh, he's really doing it. I can actually, you're going to relate to somebody better that you feel like is in the sphere that you're in doing what you're doing. So for me, I always just gave shit blood raw. Like, I had good times in prison. There were times where we did fucked up things to people

And we laughed about it We competed over who could extort the most people We competed over who could cut the most people That's the reality of what the fuck we were doing You know what I'm saying And it fucks what is after Like you come home and you're like damn Like what the fuck are we doing

But as far as glorifying it I mean bro We're just telling it what it is Like you think drug dealers and shit Kingpins like they didn't enjoy what the fuck they were doing Yeah they enjoyed it That's why they fucking did it. You making money, you're doing this, you're doing that. Like, there's goods

and bad as to everything, bro. Like, I'm not going to act like I didn't have good times in prison. The times was like fucking college. We're getting fucked up, high, drunk, beating each other up, dying, laughing, roasting people, doing pranks, fucking pouring water on people. And now that shit's all live on social

media, because everyone's got its cell phones. Have you ever scrolled through, like, TikTok and shit? Yeah, and people see, like, good times in there, too. You know what I mean? Guys are getting jumped in the bathroom on lives. Our jumpsuit Pablo shows a lot of those videos. Yeah. It's fucking nuts.

When you were in jail, that shit, I'm sure it wasn't getting out there like that. Nah, it wasn't getting recorded like that. None of the places I went, we really had phones. Like, in the JIT camps, cell phones didn't exist. The adult prison I was at, it was a fucked up adult prison. It was a psych camp. There was rumors people had phones. I never saw a cell phone in prison.

Yeah. Eventually, they're just going to give everyone phones. I mean, they're giving people tablets. Yeah, they're getting the tablets. And they're hacking the tablets. so they can go on Facebook and Instagram on the tablet. It's wild. Now, we were talking about it earlier,

but your brand has grown beyond prison now, like a partial part of your brand that people know you for is calling out high profile individuals for their paperwork. What decided to give you that idea and who are like some of the biggest people you've called out? So initially I was covering my own case and, you know, I had people doubting

what I got arrested for in the story. So I was getting the paper. paperwork on myself. And then for me, like the prison genre was starting to die out because everyone was doing it. So many more people were coming on. Everyone was trying to do the same thing. So I was like, what's the next thing I could do? I started covering criminal cases. And it wasn't like rappers. It was just random crime that was happening. And I'd get the paperwork for it. Through that, I got the idea of, what if I look in the rappers? Start covering their criminal cases. And then it's like, boom, oh shit, this rap is snitched and nobody knows.

about it. You know what I'm saying? So then I started putting it up there like, yo, he told, here's the paperwork, like, let's see what it does. And it fucking went crazy. So, you know, I think one of the first ones I did was Spotem Goddum, that shit started to do numbers. And then I saw like, okay, this is going crazy. I'm getting paid dumb money off this shit. So I started looking into different rappers. And a lot of them, people would hit me up behind the scenes, like, yo, he's a rapper. He's nish. Just keep. keep me out of it. So I'd look into them and throw that shit up there.

And it just became what it became. And I got so popular off of doing that. A lot of people don't even know about the prison content that I was doing because nobody was posting my prison content on Instagram. But every time I covered a rapper, they'd post that. The blogs would cover that. And that's kind of what got me into the hip-hop realm of things. Yeah.

I mean, when someone goes on your Instagram, it looks like you have this image of being like this huge hip-hop. like type star just like your images and the brand you've created an amazing brand that's just crazy it was all like accidental when you were sitting in a jail cell did you ever imagine like those times would give you what you have now hell no isn't that crazy i knew i wanted to do something i just didn't know what i wanted to be a rapper but that shit wasn't hitting and uh yeah i don't know i just kind of like fell into it and then when i started doing it and making money. I'm on J-Pay emailing my homies in prison. Like, yo, bro, when y'all get out, I'm gonna put y'all

on to this YouTube shit. Like, I'm sure y'all don't know what the fuck it is. Like, I didn't know what the fuck it is, but this shit is making dumb money. And, you know, I have some people come home and start channels and they ended up fucking it up. Do you think it's tougher now, though, to get into the prison content world on YouTube if you're doing it, like on your webcam? Like, I feel like there's a certain group of individuals, like you lock down, maybe after prison show, the original OG that are able to go on there and do these videos and they do numbers, but do you think it's harder now for someone to start those channels? I don't know.

I mean, I felt like the prison genre died out a while ago, like a couple years ago, but TikTok started a whole new wave. Yeah. So now there's like a whole new group that's rising up. You know what I'm saying? It's kind of cool to see that and to know that I was a part of like the original YouTube group, I don't know if it's how to. I mean, I feel like the content definitely changed up because we were doing long-ass

videos like me. I was doing like 30, 40-minute stories versus now TikTok 60 seconds and these shits are doing millions of views. Yeah. So it's like the style changed, but I also just feel like it depends on the person. You got to have something about you that people just like and connect to. Which is why I think I was able to stand out in the field because of the way I look. Yeah.

And when I'm telling prison stories, it's like, you know, just like you were saying people tagged me in your shit. Like it came out of nowhere, but it's just different, you know. But that's what I liked about when I was watching you is obviously we don't look alike, but your stories all came off is genuine. And there's a lot of people in the prison community that we capped the fuck out. And a lot of people feel like, oh, if you're big and muscular, you must have been running in there. And it's like, I've seen people that are big and muscular get stabbed. So it's like, you know, people are under a facade of what prison is, they look at it for the movies, but I like genuine people that talk on genuine shit, you know, and that's kind of what got us in contact. What do you want people to take away from your story, your message, and what you do, and who you are as a person?

What do you want them to gain from it? Just the understanding of what it is, you know? Like, this is my life, this is what I went through. Understand that if you following in the same footsteps, this is likely what you're going to go through. This is how it's going to affect you. 99% of the people that I know that were locked up with me have back locked up or dead. The rest of them, they're free, but they're broke and fucked up. Like, they're not living how I'm living.

So I'm like the 1% of this shit. This shit doesn't really happen. You know what I'm saying? So everybody thinks that they're going to be that guy, that top guy. I never thought that for myself. I never thought that my channel out of everyone's channel was. going to be the one that takes off. I never thought it was going to be me. And a lot of my homies that I thought would have been the one that would have became the celebrity or the

rap star, whatever, they got killed. Or they're back in prison with a life sentence or they're facing forever. So, I mean, if you're going to take anything out of what I say, just, I don't know, take it for what it is. Understand my life experiences. If you can relate to it, relate to it. If not, if it's entertainment for you, be entertained. But just understand that, you know, my actions had consequence. And just because I got a chain on doesn't mean I'm not dealing with a whole bunch of bullshit that I went through 10 years ago. All that shit still sticks with me. But if you can relate to what I went through and you went through something similar,

I hope that where I'm at now can motivate you and show you that, you know, we can do something legally. Our past doesn't have to define us so we can actually grow from what we've done in the past. So last question for you. How do you get the name 1090, Jake? Like, what does that stand for? 1090, if you Google it, it's a blood code for set tripping. Okay. So for me, I actually went at it with a lot of bloods in Florida State Prison.

So I just put 1090 on my name just because I was tripping on everybody, you know? And now it's a brand. Now it's a brand. Do people just call you 1090? Yeah. It's weird, too, because some of my homies, like, one of my dogs, call me. We was in prison together. He's like, yo, 1090. I'm like, man, what? But shut the fuck up. You don't call me that. It's like, yo, cherry my bad, bro. You know,

everybody call you that shit now. So it's like mad people would call me 1090, but the people that know me, they didn't call me by my name. That's great, man. Well, Jake, thank you so much for coming on the show and traveling out here. I know you don't do too many, you know, in-person sit-down interview, so I'm very grateful. And, you know, I'm looking forward to, you know, building a relationship with you and helping each other out, working together in the future and you know best of luck to you with everything you got going on definitely i appreciate you bro