Locked In with Ian Bick - Attempted Murder Put Me on the Prison Murder Block | Daniel Pedicini

Episode Date: July 7, 2025

Daniel Pedicini’s life spiraled from teenage trouble to attempted murder charges. Growing up in Massachusetts, he got hooked on painkillers in high school, was arrested for kidnapping and assault, and eventually landed a 3.5-year sentence on the murder block in state prison. In this raw interview, Daniel opens up about life in county jail, surviving time alongside killers, and what it took to beat addiction and stay sober after prison. #TrueCrimePodcast #PrisonStories #RedemptionArc #LifeAfterPrison #StatePrisonStory #FromInmateToInspiration #SecondChances #lockedinpodcast Thank you to FACTOR for sponsoring today's episode: Head to FACTORMEALS.com/LOCKEDIN50OFF and use code LOCKEDIN50OFF for 50% off plus free shipping on your first box. Connect with Daniel Pedicini: https://www.instagram.com/hadthattoy/?hl=en Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Presented by Tyson 2.0 & Wooooo Energy: https://tyson20.com/ https://woooooenergy.com/ Buy Merch: http://www.ianbick.com/shop Timestamps:00:00:00 Daniel Pedicini's Troubled Youth and Legal Battles00:06:07 Life as the Class Clown00:12:30 The Path to Prison: A Personal Reflection 00:18:29 The Safe Burglary Incident00:25:00 The Pressure to Plead Guilty in Court 00:31:18 The Wizanator: A Creative Solution for Dr*g Tests 00:37:54 Transition from Probation to Addiction00:43:57 Living with Methadone: Daily Struggles and Restrictions00:50:22 Confrontation at the Flea Market Leading to Arrest00:56:54 Arrest and Legal Struggles01:03:22 Survival Tactics and Making Friends in Jail01:09:44 Prison Life: Adapting to Unconventional Challenges 01:15:46 Emotional Impact of the Parole Hearing 01:21:59 The Inspiring Journey and Tragic End of a Colorado Friend01:28:28 Transition from Night Shift to Marijuana Consulting01:34:58 Challenges in Housing and Overcoming Rejection01:41:39 Funny Job Stories with Dan Powered by: Just Media House : https://www.justmediahouse.com/ Creative direction, design, assets, support by FWRD: https://www.fwrd.co Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and I ended up pleading guilty to it was attempted murders with my charge. Daniel Patachini grew up in Massachusetts and started slipping early. Trouble in high school, painkillers, and arrests. But things spiraled fast. He was charged with kidnapping, assault, and eventually attempted murder. Sentenced to state prison, Daniel spent three and a half years locked up on the murder block. In this episode, he opens up about addiction, surviving the darkest corners of the prison system and how he's now staying sober

and rebuilding his life after it all. Dan, welcome to Lockton. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Yeah, straight from Massachusetts. Yep. Funny story, you almost hit me with a car. Yeah, that was, yeah. A few months ago.

Yeah. That was definitely a good one. But you happen to be a listener of the show. And I actually, I didn't even realize you almost hit me until, like, you messaged me. Like, I was just walking across the street. Yeah, going to Valia. So I think from your direction, it looked like it almost hit me, but, like, I didn't feel like you were about to hit me or anything.

Yeah, you stopped. And then I was like, oh, my God, that's Ian Bick. And that's why I rolled down my window. And I was like, Ian. That's so funny. Well, I'm glad you Instagram messaged me because I think I offered you to come on the show after that. And now here we are. And, you know, for anyone that's listening, you could just easily fill out the book of form sheet on, you know, on my website,

Ian Bick.com. If you want to come on the show, or just DM us on Instagram. Yeah. And we're very responsive and try to respond to as many people as possible. And you and I were just talking about, upcoming episodes. I just implemented this new thing. I don't know if you saw last night's episode yet. No. But now I'm doing like an exciting hook in the beginning of the episode. And then it's me giving an intro summary about what the episode's going to be about. Oh, okay. Because I know all the

audience doesn't necessarily like every single guest because not every guest is a great storyteller. True, true. And everyone shares their story differently. Some people are kind of all over the place. Some people are really dialed in. And I just want to make it about, you know, everyone that wants the opportunity, could share their story does have the right to share their story. And it's not going to be for everyone, but it will touch someone. But at least when they can see the hook, like the intro of the person's story, you'll get a feel for that person, how they're going to talk, how they'll be everything like that. So the hook would be you explaining? So it'll be the person, the guest saying something in the beginning. That's what, when you turn on locked in on wherever you listen to your

podcast, it'll be that person's hook. And then it'll give, it'll cut. Like soft light does. Softlight It'll cut to me giving an intro a summary of what we're going to talk about in the episode. Yeah. And then it goes right into it because that's actually how I first started. But then I was like, I don't know if the audience really cares for this or not. But then what I realized is because there's so many episodes and not every episode is necessarily going to resonate with everyone. Every episode starts with, you know, hey, welcome to locked in. And we just start in the childhood.

So it could be, you know, I don't want anyone to invest their time and not end up liking the episode. Yeah. That's good. upgrade, right? Yeah, so just so everyone knows what's going on and what they can expect going forward, and now we're back to five episodes a week. I had to tune it down the last month because it was a way doing this project, which everyone will find out about in August. Yeah, I heard you come back. You said you were out for like a couple months doing a project. Yeah. It's going to be a big one. Yeah, it's going to be really huge. Everyone's going to love it. And I've started filming last week and been doing like podcasts

every day. Some really good stories really in depth. We've been going kind of longer. And Okay, yeah. And it's been cool. Yeah. So did you grow up in Massachusetts? Yeah, born and raised in Revere, pretty much my whole life. Yeah. My parents got divorced when I was like nine years old, so I bounced around my mom for a little bit back and forth.

But I always ended up back in Revere. My childhood home is there. My father's there. Now my mother's there too, too. So, yeah. What do your parents do for work? My dad, locals have an iron worker, and my mother's a respiratory therapist. both retired.

And did you guys grow up with money, without money? Yeah. Yeah, my father had, still has. He's pretty wealthy. Did the divorce cause some friction with your upbringing? Yeah. Oh, yeah, I'm sure it did. Yeah, I bounced down on a couple schools.

So like Winthrop, that's kind of on the border of there. I bounced over to Winthrop when I was like nine or ten, went to school there. Then my mother moved to Nahant. So I went to school there. Then I went back to my dad. Once I was like 15, 14, I was starting to get into some real trouble. That's when my mom's like, you know, you might be better off living with your father. Why do you think you're getting into trouble that young?

Who the hell knows, dude? I'm an only child. I always like detention. I always like to hang out with the older kids. So I think that all started it, man. Do you think that came from your mom or your father, or is that just something you did? I don't know. I don't know if it was maybe the divorce that did it, that kind of like set me up to, to,

to fail or being an only child. I don't know. Did you feel like you were trying to fit in? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Try to fit in. Older crowd. I always hung out with older kids.

And yeah, I got kicked out of a couple schools. I ended up graduating from an alternative school in Cambridge called Farr Academy. But that was like the last end. That's for like the worst of the worst. Like I already did one alternative school before that. Got kicked out of that one. And then like 11th and 12th and 12th. 12th grade, I still had to do when this school in Cambridge accepted me called Fire Academy.

And it's like kids get bust in from like DYS. There's four kids to a classroom and two teachers. Yeah, that was nuts growing up there. That's where I was introduced to like drugs, the pain killers. I was introduced to weed before that. But like, yeah, that school was where the heavy hitters were, you know, all the mess ups, all the kids that just get in trouble all day. If they have parents that want them in school or an advocate that'll get them into that school that's where they go why were you getting kicked out of so many schools so just being a class clown um yeah it was mostly just just looking for attention i guess how would people describe you i know you just said class clown um funny that's how i got through my whole sentence of prison i'm only 140 pounds and very skinny you know

i feel like i was in with like the fellas like they accepted me right away and i feel like they accepted me because of the funny things that I would do, you know? Do you think those individuals liked you for who you were or just because you were funny? Yeah, I used to say that all the time. Like all my friends that I met in jail and prison, they never wanted anything from me. Just a friendship. You know, it wasn't like, oh, Dan selling weed, let me hang out with him. Maybe I can get a good deal on an ounce type of thing.

It was more like just hanging out with you because they wanted to hang out with you. You know, and I feel like the funny thing kind of like got me in a lot of place. or like messing with the correctional offices, you know, people would see that and think it was funny. How did you first get exposed to drugs? High school. Yeah. Was that the older kids that kind of brought it on to you?

Yeah, no, these kids were my age. So, like, once I got in an alternative school, the first one, I think, was the 10th grade. And that's where I was really introduced to weed. Yeah, kids would smoke weed. And I always knew my dad smoked weed, so I could always, like, pinch a little bit from his stash, bring it in for the guys, you know.

And then around like 15 years old is when I started smoking weed. Skateboarded my whole life just down at the skateboard park one day, looking for weed. Oh, I can go get it. I stole some from my dad. Roll the joint and that was it. What was it about weed that you were attracted to? I don't know, the money behind it. The feeling.

Yeah, that was high school. So chicks, all the chicks that wanted to smoke weed, hey, I had. at it, you know? Do you think doing weed led you to harder cord drugs? Yeah, people will argue that. So people will say, like, weed's not a gateway drug. But I feel like if I never smoked weed and, like, had that little buzz and knew how to control it, the next step for me was painkillers. I didn't do anything else. I didn't do it, never got into like Coke or anything. I just went weed. And then, like, probably the 12th grade is when I was introduced to oxy cotton. Why painkillers? I just thought they were cool. The guy.

that I used to buy weed off of used to always tell me, hey, if you can never get, you know, you steal fucking perks from your father or something, or if you ever come across painkillers, I buy them. So then I would ask other friends, hey, dude, you know, do your parents have painkillers? And I would buy them off them, and then I'd give them to my weed guy, you know, just trying to fit in, like being with a connection, you know, hey, I get a bottle of perks, yeah. By that time you were living with your dad, so did he notice any of this behavior? No. My mom is more the one that can notice it. My dad could never notice it. So do you think it was the wrong choice that she put you with the dad?

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. If I stayed with my mom, if I would have ended up with the pain killers. I think it was the school that I went to is where that really like just seeing kids like it was so cool to have an oxy cotton, you know? Now, did you have some type of injury or anything that you were trying to break from? Never. Never been in pain. of a neck pain, back pain. In the beginning, it was just to be cool to fit in, to get chicks. Before we dive deeper into the episode, I've got a quick favor to ask. If you're watching on YouTube, hit that like button, drop a comment, and don't forget to subscribe.

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Head over to FactorMeals.com slash Locked In 50 off and use code Locked In 50 off to get 50% off your first box plus free shipping. You'll hear more about Factor later in this episode. How easy is it to get hooked on painkillers when you don't have an injury and you're taking them regularly? Pretty easy. So I did like five milligram perks, and I would take them as the bottles prescribed in the beginning, like take two every four hours. And I would just get a little bit of energy and be able to talk more.

Yeah, I just love the high off of it. And then the perk fives eventually towards the end of the 12th grade, that's when I started. I was like, I'll just do the oxy, but I won't sniff it. You know, I'll just buy one and I'll cut it up into 10 pieces and do it that way. and then eventually it ended up me sniffing them, you know. Did you start selling them at all? Are you always just... Yeah, very little, though.

I was always the weed man. So anyone that needed weed knew way to go, but the pills, not so much. No, just friends once in a while. If they were, like, sick, I would sell them one, but I wasn't a... I never got into selling the hot drugs. Did you ever have any aspirations in life, goals, dreams? Yeah, I always wanted to have the store that I have since I was. a little kid I started collecting like comic book related toys and vintage toys when I was like

nine or 10 years old my dad would take me to flea markets I'd see the stuff I'd buy it I'd flip it then like 98 came out eBay eBay came out in 98 99 I was real heavy in that as a teenager and I always wanted my own store so I wanted like a vintage toy store with a skateboard shop in the back and then in 2020 I finally saved up enough money to fucking do it you know and I opened it up and Salem Mass, it's a big tourist town. When you hear Salem right away, you think witches, you know? Yeah. That's like the witch town, witch trials.

And it gets a lot of tourism. And, yeah. Why didn't you pursue that right after high school? Ooh, I don't know. I was too busy, like, with the chicks and stuff, you know, like, just partying. Yeah. Do you think if you had focused on your dream and what you wanted to do, you never would have ended up in prison?

No, no, I think I was destined for prison or jail at least, just as, as probably when I was like 16, so still a teenager, I kind of realized like, yeah, I'm going down a bad path. Do you believe someone could be destined to go to prison? Yeah, if, I mean, not from birth, but if you look at a child and I would say the child's like 14 years old and this kid's already getting in trouble, lighting fires, getting arrested, like, and you're not slowing down eventually. yeah, it's going to catch up with you. I remember other parents telling my dad, like, hey, your kids, he's destined for jail if he doesn't smott in the fuck up, you know? How did your dad react to those comments? He just told me. He's like, hey, you know, Bob across the street, he said you're going to end up in jail, kid, if you don't smotting the fuck up.

Do you wish your dad did something different instead of just telling you that? Like, do you wish he actually assisted you? No, my dad was pretty strict. Like, anytime he found drugs, he could never tell when I was on drugs, I was always, like, sociable. whatever the functional addict i never got into the needle i never like was nodding off so my dad never knew about that stuff um yeah once you finally graduated from that alternative school what happens so i graduated from alternative school um so i was almost 17 i had my license i had a catalact i pretty much just partied dude i was always just selling weed smoking weed my house was the

place to go if you wanted to smoke um Yeah. This was your dad's house? Yeah, my dad's house. I lived at home for a long time. And were you just selling weed or did you have a job at all? At this point, 16, 17, I did not have a job. And then 18, I was either 18 or 19 when my house got broken into. So somebody broke in to steal my safe. It was a real heavy safe. They had a roll it down the stairs to get it out, two flights of stairs.

and like I had no fucking clue who did this dude I'm like looking through my phone who bought the last bag of weed off me is it this person is it that person and you know I would always think like I might have been that kid you know and like five months goes by my buddy Devin calls me and he's like hey man there's a kid wearing your watch your mevado I said ah they mavados all look the same dude I said mine was my dad gave it to me I graduated mine had my initials on the class I And I'm like, dude, call me, check the clasp somehow and call me back. He says, Dan, your initials are on it. He's here. He's basically bragging about it. I showed up with a friend, this other kid, I won't mention his name because he never got caught. He always told me, Danny, when you find out who broke into your house, you fucking call me. And I'll be right there.

And he was known as a tough kid in Revere. So I called him. I'm like, dude, there's a kid. He broke into the house. He's at a party right now. He's bragging about it. He's wearing my watch. Dude's like, let's go.

we show up I was either 18 or 19 right on the verge we took his car he's like Danny wait in the car no matter what do not come in because he the person who broke it in my house knows me they don't know what he looks like

so he's like you know don't come in don't let this kid see you so the dude goes to the door he knocks my friend lets him in the owner of the home the one that had called me and said this kid's here bragging about it lets him in the door shuts within a minute all the windows on the house are like moving shaking i'm like dude i got to fucking go in

i open up the door i run in they have the kid on the ground and they duct tape in so this is the owner of the home my friend evan and the kid that i brought kid gets duct taped he admits to to breaking into the house i'm like listen i don't care about the cash i wanted uh there was some death things on my grandfather like a prayer card there was the title to my car the title to my girl's car he's like yeah we burnt all that so my you know when they cracked open the safe so my buddy just gave him a beating dude made his girlfriend watch

um really fucked him up bad duct taped him up to a chair um flatten the tires on his truck so now he ends up leaving all fucked up limping out of the house he gets in his truck he drives like I don't know say two minutes down the road

and a police officer pulls him over because he has all he has three or four flat tires and he just told everything he's like this kid danny just showed up he thinks i stole drugs from him he's a drug dealer and he just beat the shit out of me and he jumped me and yeah and he and he told so obviously the police go right to devon the owner of the home because uh the kid that got beat up said you know like he was involved too they arrested him um and then like two days later i turned myself in so the police had came to my house in Revere and were looking for me. And that night my dad's like, hey, the police are looking for you.

And the next morning I went to Lynn District Court and turned myself in. And what did they end up charging you with? So that was kidnapping because if you move a person three feet against their will, it's considered kidnapping. Assault and battery shod foot and loss any of a person because I took my watch back from him. Even though he stole from you. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, the judge said that she was taking that she was taking. that into consideration that it wasn't a robbery that it was you know I wasn't robbing the kid I wasn't like some random act of violence like the kid broken in my house you know I didn't go to the police when when I found out who did it you know I didn't call 911 because the detective all with detective that when my father called the police to say the house got broken into the detective thought I did it okay he thought that I stole because my dad's like hey the safe the safe was mine you know so now the detective's looking around he sees all the holes because they had a roll it down the stairs.

It was too heavy. And he pulls me aside. He's like, I know you fucking did this to your father. He's like, when I find out you did this to your father, when I find out, I'm going to take you in an alleyway and kick the shit out of you. And I was like, wow, you guys are really looking in the wrong direction, you know? So when I got that call, yeah, I could have called the police, but I didn't. You know, he wanted to do street shit and break into my house. Now you're going to pay, you know?

It's like a revenge. Did your dad know you were selling drugs out of the house? Weed. I never sold drugs. I always just weed. Okay. Yeah. Did he know that, though? Yeah, a little bit. Did he care? No, not really.

Did he blame you for the safe getting stolen? Oh, yeah. Yeah, people in and out all the time. And the kid had just came in, the kid whose party it was, who called me that said, hey, this kid's bragging about breaking any of house. He had came by for a pound of weed, and the kid who broke into my house didn't trust him with the money to go upstairs to get the pound of weed. and was like, hey, can I come with you? And I never, I've heard of the kid, but I never met him.

So my buddy calls me, he's like, hey, this kid thinks I'm going to beat him. Can he come in? I'm like, yeah, sure, bring him in. And he came in, and he must have saw the safe in the corner, and then came back a week later and hit it. How much was that watchworth? 600 bucks, just a mevado. How much cash got stolen? Like, $4,500 was in the safe.

But there was a duffel bag on top of it that had back then a pound of hydro, It was like 3,500, 3,300. It was 4 pounds of hydro on top of the safe in a duffel bag. And they pushed that duffel bag off of the safe and got the safe. Nothing was in the safe. Just cash and prayer cards, a title to my car. Stupid shit. How much was that weed worth?

Probably like 12 grand. Oh, so you made the least you could have made the money back on that week. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Wow. Yeah. I mean, there were so many other things in the house that they could have taken that was worth more, but they probably thought there was thousands in the safe, you know.

Was the safe secured or bolted or anything? No. You just had a free standing safe? Yeah, I was 18 years old, man. I wasn't. I mean, I had street smots at that age, but I wasn't. Was this a pretty big safe? I'm like, yeah, like a small refrigerator, you know? And there was just one of them that broke in or just? What do you mean?

Like how many guys went in to remove the safe? So he brought a friend and so it was the kid and one other kid. Did you ever find the other kid? No, I don't know who he is. Okay. No. So the cops arrest you, they charge you, do you get bail for that? I was on, yeah.

So I got bailed out the next morning. It was $10,000 cash bail. My buddy Devin didn't get bailed out right away. It took him like a week to get out. But what my, what I didn't know was I was on probation for something else. So my probation officer didn't know that I picked up this new case. That's why I was able to get that $10,000 bail. So now I get a call from the probation officer the next morning.

He's like, hey, you need to come here right now. You violated your probation with these new serious charges. So I went to Chelsea Court, turned myself in. It was like the day after I got bailed out, and then I never got out. I was held for my probation violation. I had six months left to do. I did that in Nashville Street, South Bay, just the regular county jails. And then, yeah, and then I was just going to court for the kid that broke into my house.

And he showed up and played the whole victim card, you know? So you lost the bail that you paid? No, my dad put up the $10,000 and then he gets that back once I go in. But if I run and didn't show up to court, then they would keep the $10,000 bail. Oh, because I know in some cases when it gets revoked in some states, I think you lose it. Whoa. Yeah, it would get revoked, though, I think if you would. mess up. So let's say you like leave the state. You're not allowed to leave the state. Now your

bail could get revoked and they keep it. Okay. Gotcha. So the probation violation had nothing to do with it. What do you mean? With the money. No. Okay. No, no. What were you on probation for at that point? So that was from when I was 17. This kid, again, I got told on. He lived upstairs. his parents own the home and the downstairs lady was out of town the lady who lived downstairs so he's like what better to do it's friday night let's throw a party throws a party in her house yeah she lets me take the alcohol and you know she's my neighbor she's just in new hampshire camping at some place you know we can drink whatever and like there was a lot of people that ended up showing up to that party so maybe like three days after the party i guess the woman got home she noticed all the liquor

was moved stuff was moved right away they went upstairs um the kid was uh taken to the revere police station questioned right away said that i was with him said hey me and petichini had this plan with you know we wanted a party he calls me on speakerphone from the police station he's like dan dan i told them everything just come down and tell them the truth they're going to help us and i'm like oh no dude you know i literally I hung up, I walk outside, and there's a detective right in front of my house sitting in the car. He's like, hey, get in the back or I'm going to come at 2 o'clock in the morning and rip you out of bed with a warrant. Now again, I'm 17 and a half years old, 17. I don't even know my rights at this point.

So if a police officer said to me, hey, shoes untied, tie your shoe, I would bend down and tie my shoe. I didn't know that I could say no, you know. Get in the car. I'd go back to the station. Revere Police Station is a detective. I could see the kid Paul crying. That's a kid who told on me. He was a lot bigger than me.

And the detective really beat the shit out of him, like bad, like was choking him and stuff. And I'm like, oh my God, I hope he doesn't do it to me. Now, when I was 17, I was under 100 pounds. So the detective's like, yeah, you know, you're a piece of shit. You broke into this lady's house. You threw a party while she was away. I'm like, you know, I thought we had permission to be there, you know,

and have the party. And, yeah, that was a bad one. And that was the first time you were ever... That was the first big one, you know? Yeah. Tell us about those six months in county going back and forth to your court hearings for this new case. Oh, that's the worst part.

The worst part is going to court. You shackled to a bunch of people, dude. They smell. Nobody showers in the morning. It's just gross, dude. You got to go back and forth and sit there. Sometimes you go to court and they don't even call your name. You don't even leave the tank, you know?

Do you think that forces people to plead guilty? Yeah, absolutely 100%. Yeah. Is that what you would end up doing? Yeah, I took a plea bargain because of how serious the charges were, it was supposed to get indicted. But we wouldn't give up or I wouldn't give up that kid that I brought with me that day. So because of that, we were charged with it, me and the owner of the home, the kid who called me and said, hey, this kid's here bragging.

And we had to both agree to the plea bargain and they would knock the kidnapping off and it would just be assault and battery shod foot. But if I agree to it and my co-defendant doesn't, then nobody gets it and it'll get indicted. So our lawyer said, like, hey, you guys have a break of your life. The judge is taken into consideration that this kid broke into your home. it's a good deal take it and that deal was one year and you each got one year one year yeah and that's one year plus good time and like parole oh yeah yeah yeah I got parole and everything um yeah I ended up going to middleton jail for that and then they was there like six months anger management block did uh completed anger management and then after like six months I was able to go to the farm and the farm at

the time. This was 2004. You could wear street clothes. So you could have your parents drop you off a bag of street clothes, cigarettes or a buck a piece. It was just way more freedom. You couldn't leave the compound, but you could if you were with COs sticking and picking on the side of the road. So I did that. Then that's Essex County. So I saw the house arrest thing that was like you could go in a room and talk to somebody about getting house arrest. But I was Essex County. My dad's home is in Suffolk County. So as long as Suffolk County agreed to set all the wires up, I could get house arrest and parole at the same time. So I would be on house arrest my last two months and parole my last two months. And once they agreed, they checked my dad's house, no guns, no alcohol. They set up

the ankle thing. And that's what I did. Now, if this guy, the one you guys assaulted, never pressed charges, would you have gotten off? Of course. You know, it's always, I always find it funny when the guys commit a crime and then they plead the victim part. Yeah. Oh, so good. It's like the drug dealers that call that they got robbed. That they got robbed. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dumb. It's like you're doing street stuff. You know it's illegal to break into somebody's house, dude, you know? You wouldn't like it for me to call the police and you get arrested for a B&E, you know. Do you feel like you were justified by attacking him? 100%. And I didn't even attack him. It was the other kid that I was with.

And he said that. He's like, Petitini just came in and asked me. for the stuff and they say he told the truth like exactly what happened even though he didn't get physically hurt by assault uh by stealing your safe you feel like that he got physically hurt no but i'm saying like the action the crime of stealing the safe from you yeah i mean sorry you didn't get physically hurt correct so do you feel like that was a fair punishment to attack him yeah he'll he'll have nightmares for the rest of his life about that i mean pitchy a tape to a fucking cheer.

Your girlfriend's watching, you know? That's why I had to see it. Once I saw those windows of the house shaking, and he told me this was another, a kid was a lot older than me. He's like, stay in the car, because he knew. He knew, like, the law and I was 17.

I was, I didn't know, you know? I didn't know, like, hey, once I'm in that house, now he sees me, now he can identify me. Did you think it was going too far or you were just cool with it while it was happening?

Oh, I don't know what I was thinking, dude. I just wanted to see it. Once I saw the house rumble, you know, people started leaving because it was a little party. I was like, wow, this has got to be fucking good, dude. You know, I want to watch it. Do you regret going into that house? No, the year was worth it. Yeah.

Do you still believe in, you know, getting revenge on someone? The best. Yeah, that's all my crimes are always revenge to. Always revenge, too. Always revenge, yeah. People fuck with me or pick on the little guy, you know. Where do you think that stems from? Is it your childhood?

Is it what something your parents taught you? Yeah, I took a lot of, a lot of like, not abused, dude, but like, like, bullied, you know, almost like a bully. I forget what we were talking about. What was I? Oh, we were talking about how, where that comes from, where it stems from. Oh, yeah. So, like, just years of being a kid and, like, bullied or, like, someone would short you money or, like, pinch out of your bag, you know? And, like, yeah, just bully.

And then eventually, once I turned, like, 17. 18 I was just sick of it you know how old are you when you got done with that year so I got out I was 20 so 19 to 20 and you already have two felonies at that point in your record no so the kidnapping got dropped so it was just one felony okay and then that first probation case wasn't counted as a felony no okay no no no that was county that was county with a six-month suspended sentence so by getting the kid who broke in my safe I mean broken in my house and stole the safe. I violated that probation and had to do the six months. Okay. And South Bay, Nashville Street, then South Bay. Now, once you get out 20 years old, what's your mindset? Ah, man, I just wanted to do drugs and get laid and fucking, who knows, you know? Are you back to selling weed? Yeah. Oh, yeah, right away. That was always my hustle since I was like 15. It was weed. And are you on probation? Yeah. I forgot to mention that. So it was a year to serve. three years probation with 18 months suspended.

So I get out. I still have, I think it started though when my sentence started, the probation. So I had two years left when I got out and 18 months suspended. I mean, I don't commit crimes. I don't rob anybody, but I know I'm going to piss dirty.

So I buy the Wizzinator. Yep. Someone was just telling us about the WISNAIDA the other day. It's the best. Now they know about it. But this is 04. The only way you could buy it was in the back of of a high times magazine you had to send a money order for 150 dollars and they that's what i did i went

in the back of a high times wizernate of 500 plus boom sent the 150 bucks two weeks later i get the whizzinator it's a pair of underwear with a prosthetic penis and a tube going in it and then you know in the winter time for your gloves those hand warmers you put the hand warmer pack in the underwear it keeps the urine like at a room temperature a body temperature and yeah you just use that thing dude it has a little click above it, what I did was I practiced at home first. I didn't want to go there and like drop something or fuck it up. So I just filled the pouch with water. And I would just go in my bathroom and just practice holding it, practice pinching it, practice the angle that I would stand.

And then once I got that flow good, I could do it every time. And if I thought that they were like kind of peek in or peck-a-checking me, I would just say, hey, can you turn on the water, man? I can't. You know, I need to just feel like. And as soon as he'd turn that water, bang, that's when I'd snap the little button. and the piss But getting the piss was a hard thing So, oh four, you could only buy

like powdered piss that you have to add water to. You could buy it out of the back of a High Times magazine And the only thing you could buy it like GNC at the time With those drinks And I did the drink before And puked and failed the drug test So I never wanted the drink So what I used to do is I would ask my older cousin

She had a son that was eight years old And he's also my cousin He's like 20 something now I'd ask her to get me his pee. And what she would say to him is, oh, you don't have to go to the doctors. Daniel's going to go for you. Because when little kids go to the doctors,

they make them piss in a cup. So she gives her son the cup every couple weeks. And it's like, yeah, Daniel's going to bring it for you. So you don't have to, because he hates the doctors. So that was my pee connect. I'd always give her like a half ounce of weed every couple weeks. She'd keep me loaded with the pee. And that was it.

Dude, I didn't violate probation once in two years because of that was anita. I didn't even know there was powdered pee. Yeah. Yeah, you just add water to it. What is that used for? For this situation? Yeah, it says on it, like, if you're going to a doctor and you want to keep your body private, you know, you can give them this pee, and now the doctor won't know that you're on drugs or on weed or whatever they test for.

So is the whole drink a bunch of cranberry juice, just the myth? I never did it. I tried it. I mean, I heard of it, vinegar and cranberry, and I even bought the drink at GNC. I drank it warm, and it was like a thick fruit punch syrup. And like I drank almost the whole bottle. I remember I was at a hotel and I just threw up all over the floor, this red fruit punch drink. And I still peed.

It was like a green color piss and I failed. I remember in high school, that's what everyone would do. The drink. I never even heard of the Wizzinator or anything. It was just always sneak someone a cup and I had some friends that smoked weed where the parents started drug testing them at home or sending them places. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then when I got on federal pretrial, you had to do the random call every day that you would call in. Yeah, your color.

And then you'd go in and you'd pee. And sometimes they would be really lazy and they would just stand outside, like if it was a woman. But I'd never smoked weed at that point. Gotcha. It didn't even really matter. But it would have been easy. I think it's easier to get away with some of these probation officers than what it used to be. Yeah.

Yeah, I like my probation officer. He'd never busted my balls. He never showed up at my house. It was just, plus I was passing all the urines. So I went from doing a urine once a week on the. the color like you said you call i went from doing them once a week that was a retired state trooper that used to watch you do the urins and he was good man he had a mirror above you a mirror on the side of you a mirror in front of you and i still got away with this fucking whizzenator thing so now i convinced my

probation officer i'm like dude i don't have a drug problem you know every week i got to call this color i got to drive all the way to lynn i said we have something next to revere it was called um a city called chelsea borders revere they had something called chelsea asap and i was introduced to that when I was on probation in Chelsea a few years prior to this. So I asked my probation officer if I could do my drug tests because that's what they do at Chelsea ASAP. It's counseling, anger management, drug tests. He's my probation officer's like, absolutely, no problem, even better. It's closer to you.

Just get me, have the guy your counselor fax me the results. So once I got in at this place in Chelsea, it was way more laid back. There wasn't a mirror above you on the side of you, you know. It was just a guy standing behind you. And I had remembered that from when I was on probation when I was 17. So like I kind of wanted like I was forcing them to to put me in this Chelsea ASAP because I knew it was easier to get over on the urine. All right. Let's be real.

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Never violated, not even one time. So by that point, what are you, 22-ish? Yep, I turned 21 on probation. 22. Yeah, probably got off and I was like 22. What happens after that? Well, I was a drug addict at this point. You know, right when I got off, right when I got out right away, I got high.

first day you know like I couldn't wait to get that oxy oxies was still huge at this time 2004 2005 say I got out and it was still big I could still easily get an oxy but um during that time when I was 17 or 18 and I told you I was in Nashua street in South Bay for violating that probation I was introduced to heroin so I was sick I was coming off of oxy cotton um you know, not eating. I was probably like 25 days into my detox. And it usually takes about 30 before you're like back to normal again talking and shit. And there was heroin on the block.

And my cellmate did heroin. So he's like, hey, it's all. I actually told him. I'm like, hey, dude, I heard this heroin on the block. He's like, yeah, where, where, you know? So I approached the dude. I'm like, hey, you know, I have canteen, whatever you want. He's like, all right, make me up, um, make me a $40.

worth and I'll give you $40 worth of heroin. So I go upstairs to the cell. I tell my cellmate, I said, take sugar and put it on the table and show it. Because I've never seen heroin before. I don't know how much I should be getting for $40. I'm like, take sugar and show me on the table what this guy's going to give me for $40. So I know if it's a good deal.

So he takes the cream or sugar and he makes just like one line. And I'm like, he's like, yeah, that's prison prices. He's like, you know, a gram is like $300, where a gram on the street is like $80. at the time so i go down i buy it i buy the 40 dollar bag i bring it back up to the cell he's like dude this is a street 40 he's like he must have swallowed a bunch he must have been serving people got arrested swallowed a bunch of them shit them out and here they are so it was like three fat lines and i did it you know i did heroin i was the first time i ever did heroin i was so happy to try it and that was it and then i met connections for heroin so all these dudes see a skinny white dude

There's only like four or five white guys on a block at Nashville Street or South Bay. So a lot of Spanish dudes approach me. Hey, you're local. You know, let me give you my number in case you ever need crack or dope when you get out or Coke. I have all the... So I met a connection in there. And when I got out, I ended up... I had a friend that had already graduated while I was in jail.

He graduated from oxies to heroin. So when I got out, I still had this dude's number. And I'm like, ah, fuck. Should I call him? Should I do this. And my body's like, yeah, just switch. It's so much cheaper to buy the heroin. And it's the same thing.

So I called the Dominican kid. I went to Lynn. I got it. And that was it, dude. I never looked back. So from age like 20, 21, 22, all the way up to 27. Say four years. From 20 to 24, 25 was every single day heroin.

Sniffing it. And were you working at the time? Yeah. Local 22. So my godfather, when I got out of jail at the age of 20, my godfather is the president. local 22 it's a huge labor union the seminos so danny semino that's my godfather and it's also my cousin he was the president at the time my other cousins uh business agent for local 22 so my dad obviously called him was

like hey just got out of jail he needs a job for probation so i got right in the union i didn't have to like do an apprenticeship or anything i just had my book i had to pay my dues every every month and that's it you're in a union and it was good good fucking money at the time you know like 30 bucks an hour i used to say hide and seek for a thousand a week i used to just go get lost dude and and and get my check and your relationship with your dad and mom in these years of addiction what was that like good my mom my mom at this time was living in rhode island she had moved for work she ended up moving back a couple years later but yeah my mom always knew dude you know You know, she could always tell when I was, I mean, I've always been skinny since I was a kid.

Usually that's a dead giveaway, but with me, I'm always, I always look skinny, you know. That was my nickname in high school skinny. Did your body start to change even more on those four years of heroin? No, my body didn't start changing until I got on a methadone clinic. So after sniffing it every day for like five years, I always could afford it. Like I said, I held a job. And then my side hustle was always weed and vintage toys, comic books, anything collectible, It's like toy related.

That was always my side hustle, you know. So I never had to do anything stupid to get the shit. Whereas I've had friends that, you know, had to rob banks and rob pharmacies and stuff. I never got into that. Did you have a big group of friends? Yeah, I mean, friends, but they're not really friends. There was one friend that was with me since the beginning, you know.

But the other ones would just come and go, it was, hey, they need a bag of weed type of thing. And you realize they're not your friends after all. while. Did anyone ever try to help you get clean over those course of those four years, five years? My girl at the time and my father and my mother, yeah, of course. I'd always pretty much be honest. Once I switched over to sniffing the heroin, I never told my parents it was heroin. I was always like oxy. You know, that was, it wasn't like sociably acceptable. Why do you think you couldn't get clean? I think I just wanted it so bad, dude. You know, that's all I thought about. It was just like,

I can't fucking wait to get out and do a nice line, you know. Do you end up getting clean before you get in trouble that second time? Yeah, I was in the methadone clinic. So, I mean, I don't consider it clean, but there's people that swear you're clean. You're not doing your drug of choice anymore. But for me, it was just switching. So now I'm not doing heroin. Now every single day for years, I had to go to this clinic, wait in line.

People are drooling. People have fallen over. They have to breathalize you. and the methadone clinic sucks. They call it liquid handcuffs because you can never leave. So let's say you wanted to go to Florida for a week. Not happening.

Not happening. Especially if you have anything in your system because they drug test you at the methadone clinic. So there's rumors that there's something called a courtesy dose. So let's say I'm on the clinic. I'm going to Connecticut. They can find a methadone clinic in Connecticut that'll give me what they call a courtesy dose.

So I could go there, show my methadone ID, and get it. But because I always had, weed in my system, I could never get the courtesy dose. Who pays for the methadone clinic? Me, $165 a week. Or if you have insurance, insurance, I'm sure we'll cover it. 165 doesn't seem terrible. Yeah, I was spending 200 a day, 100 a day minimum.

On your... On heroin. Yeah. Or I would buy it in bulk sometimes to save a few bucks. I only had one connect. That connect I met in jail, so if he gets arrested or something, I'm fucked. that's happened you know he's gotten arrested that phone number and I have to go to detox and then in detox I'd meet other people that sell and what brought you to that point where you

wanted to go to this clinic the methadone clinic yeah so that at that point I like I said I was sniffing the dope every day for like four or five years I was 25 years old I think 2010 yeah it was like 25 or 20 24 years old I got on the methadone clinic I was just I don't know. I was like at my end, man, you know. I started slowly losing things. Not big things, but like my license. So now the car's sitting in the driveway. Yeah, I just started slowly losing things in the heroin.

It had run its course with me. After four or five years, I was just sick of it. I had friends that were on the methadone clinic. Yeah, and I just went in one day. And I said, hey, you know, I'm here to try to get this methadone clinic thing. And they make you going sick. They're like, yeah, so don't get high tomorrow morning and come here and we need to, like, see you dope sick. And they, like, slowly dose you.

They keep giving you more. Every day you can ask for more. It's not like a detox where, like, here it is. This is what you get. Nothing more, nothing less. At the methadone that you can say, up me more, up me more. Were you able to successfully complete the clinic and get clean? Well, to complete the clinic, you'd have to go off of methadone.

I chose to stay on it. So my plan was I'm going to be on methadone the rest of my life. Oh, that's the intention when you, I thought it's like a temporary thing. That's a detox. They give you methadone at detox to detox. It's seven days. You complete it. You start at like 35 milligrams.

Next day 30, 25, 20, 15, 10, 5 you're out the door. Methadone is 20, methanol clinic is like 20, 30, 40, they go up to 200 milligrams. And some people are just doing that for the rest of their life? Yeah. You got to go there every day. And after six months. If you have no weed in your system or no other drugs, no benzos, which I never did any of drugs, just the opiates, they give you take homes. So you only go to the clinic once a week.

You have to come in with a small lockbox and they give you six bottles. And you're allowed to take them home. I feel like that's no way to live. It isn't. But at the time, I'm on some serious drugs. That was the best way for me. You know, now I can show up to work every day, get my car back on the road. Yeah, that's when I started building back up again.

It was once I got on the clinic. What's the feeling like inside of you when you're on the clinic? Is it the same as drugs? So yeah, towards the end of doing the dope for so long, you're not even getting a high. You're just normal. You know, it gives you, it makes you normal so you're not sick. So the methadone, if you have enough of it, it gives me that same feeling. You know, it's not like a high.

It's more just like, hey, I'm normal now. It keeps you going. It keeps you going. What happens after that while you're still, I guess, in the clinic? What do you mean? Like what goes on, what's going on in your life? While I'm on the clinic? Yeah.

I'm working. Local 22 labor, so I got right back to work. What else was I doing? Not much, dude. You can't leave. So, like, if I want to go to New Hampshire camping, I can't because I'm on this clinic. I'm going to miss my dose. So you're allowed to miss two or three a month.

You're allowed to miss, but you can't miss two in a row. If you miss two days in a row, the third day when you show up, they can cut your dose in half. So the most you can miss is two days. On that third day, you have to sit down with the doctor. So at one time, I'm like a year and a half into it. My buddy from Mass moves to Colorado. He's doing his thing with the weed out there. This is like 2010, 2009, like really doing this thing with weed down there, like growing it, had like big warehouses full.

He's like, come out here. Come out here. We'll go snowboarding. And I don't want to tell him I'm on the methadone clinic. A lot of friends at the time, I didn't tell. You know, so I'm like, ah, fucks. So I'll go. So I get on an airplane.

No, first I go to my counselor at the clinic and I'm like, hey, my nana died. She didn't pass away. But this was my story. I said, hey, my nan died. She lives out in Colorado. I need to go to the funeral in the wake. what do I do? She's like, ah, if you miss two days, they're going to cut your dose in half. If you miss three days in a row, you're going to get kicked off.

You know, I'm like, well, I have to do this. So I'm going to miss the two nights. I said, but I'm still going to take my methadone so I can buy it on the street. So I bought it on the street, put it in my check on. I brought a snowboard with me. So I put it on my snowboard, shipped it to Colorado. So I had my methadone. My same dose that I was getting at the clinic, just street.

spend the two nights in Colorado. I come back, I go to get my methadone. It's like, doctor. You scan your little car, and it said, like, have a seat on the bench. Have a seat on the bench. The doctor comes out. He's like, come in my office. He's like, you missed two days.

He's like, and your counselor told me that you buy methadone, and you did it while you were there. I said, yeah, I needed something, so I'm not sick. He thought that I had bought in the liquid methadone. The liquid methadone, you can't get prescribed. That's a clinic. You have to go to a clinic to get the liquid methadone. When you're prescribed it on the street, you get the pill. So with the liquid, you can't tell what your dose is.

They can tell because they know how it measures. You know, it's measured in like MLs or whatever. So the doctor had thought that I bought somebody's take home, and it was liquid, and I couldn't measure my dose. Because he's like, how did you take exactly your dose? I said, well, I bought the pills, the 10 milligram. And he's like, oh, he's like the dolphins or whatever he called him, the nickname. I said, yeah. I said, I just took 14 of those a day.

And that was, that's my dose. He's like, oh, we thought you were on the liquid. And he's like, then you didn't know how much you would take. And he's like, no, I'll keep your dose the same. And that was it. I didn't get, I got to go to Colorado for two nights, you know. During this time period, are you getting into trouble legally with the law? No.

Just selling weed. That's the only thing. I never got caught selling weed. Thank God. How do you end up getting in trouble again, going back to prison? So, 2012. I was. At a flea market. Like I said, I go to, like toy shows, flea market, comic book conventions, anything.

I had a flea market 5 o'clock in the morning. And I see a guy that had ripped me off before and kind of took advantage of me. He knew I was on drugs. And I see him at the flea market. It's maybe 6.30 in the morning. Huge flea market. There's a cop on the street direct in traffic. That's how big this flea market is. and yeah that's where I caught the big case man I was with my father we're shopping I see the kid we have words he comes at me and um yeah I ended up pleading guilty to it was attempted murders with my charge um like I said there was a cop right on scene so people are screaming to get the cop cop comes over and he's like hey I think I have to arrest you I'm like okay you know he arrests me puts me back in the car the dude uh

dude's on the ground like laid out and they had to cut his shirt off and shit to treat to treat them and then they ended up taking him to a local hospital and he was out like three hours later with with staples what did you do to him

stabbed them you had a knife on you casually yeah what happened like in your mind that you just went and did that so it was like 6.30 in the morning okay I didn't get my dose yet because I'm on the mattham clinic so i didn't go to the methadone clinic that morning and this dude had just he ripped me off so many

fucking times over the years i've known him for at this point 2012 i've probably at this point known him like close to 20 years he's known me since i was a kid through the collecting of vintage toys and um yeah dude i just saw him he had words he's like yeah keep walking tough guy i called him a rat a snitch and then he came at me and he's a big fucking dude i'm a little dude i'm a little dude I had a little pocket knife and kind of got him, you know. So he attacked you first? Yeah. Oh, yeah. What's your dad doing?

Right there, dude. Right there next to me. Dad was shocked. My dad had 77. He's a citizen. He's not, he doesn't know like street life or anything. So all the witnesses that were there, none of them saw me physically stab him, but they all heard me yell snitches get stitches. So that was the big thing. That was like the, that's what was in the, the newspaper was Stitches for Snitches. And then my little article. And that's really all they, there was like seven witnesses that all gave a statement,

just said that they saw us wrestling and that they heard me shout out, Snitches get stitches. And then one of the witnesses grabbed the cop that was directing traffic and was like, yo, this kid's laid out, he's done, you know. Were you actually attempting to kill him or you just wanted to hurt him?

Absolutely not. Just leave a mark. How deep was the stab wound? I don't know about deep. So it was 20 staples. So it was long. It went from like probably here all the way down to here. Then they brought dogs in to look for the knife.

They never found the knife still to this day. They brought detectives in. The state police came in with a dog to look for the knife. They never found a knife. What happened to it? Oh, no. It's, dude. Disappared.

Did that help you at, Sentencing? It did. So I got the attempted murder drop to assault and battery with a sharp object causing serious bodily injury. Yeah. Assault and battery sharp object causing serious bodily injury. That was my only charge. In the beginning, it was attempted murder, and it was intimidation of a witness because I yelled snitches get stitches. Because he had already went to the police for something. He had ripped me off. I sent him a text message, hey, when I see you, dude, it's on. and he went to the police with those text messages. So that was a threat to commit a crime, which is literally nothing, dude. The cop that was, like, disappointed

that he had to serve me this paper. He's like, you're served with threatening to commit a crime. The officer came to my house and gave me it. He's like, you're going to have to go to court for this. He said, what's threat to commit a crime? He said, it's a misdemeanor. He said, if you went, go in Walgreens and you yell out, I'm going to steal a snickers bar.

You just threatened to commit a crime. The worst that can happen, I think on that at the time was a $500 fine for threatening to commit a crime. But that was the least of your problems at that point anyways? Yeah. Yeah. And I didn't see the kid for like four months. And then I bumped into him at the flea market.

And he got tough, you know? He was with his chick. Did you get bail for this case? Yeah, $50,000 cash. You had to pay the full $50? Yeah. And who paid that money? My father came down about two hours later.

I was bailed out. And I remember the cop, too. up with such a piece of shit he's like yeah 50,000 dollars bail do you even want to make a call do you have somebody that'll get you out of here soon let me make a phone call I called my dad I told him where I had some cash hidden he came down bailed me out that was Sunday because flea markets are on Sunday so the next morning I had my arraignment so I called a lawyer we hired a lawyer he's like dude you're fucked he's like they're gonna take that because of the county that I was in or the court that I was in it was Newburyport mass he's like dude you're screwed

He's like they're gonna lock you up. He's like prepare to go when go away when you go in So at this time I'm on the methadone clinic I'm like oh fuck I've always heard a tucking stuff putting stuff in the safe, you know Like from my past bits When I was locked up in county jail like guys would say yeah, I put it in the safe I came in with a finger of heroin or yeah I came in with pills. I smuggled them in my ass they don't check So I knew I had caught the next morning I grabbed a bunch of suboxin like 25 of them. And at this time, Suboxone was a pill. It wasn't a strip. So the pills, I had 25 of them,

but if you put them in a zip a lot, if you put them in a bag in the corner of a bag, the more you stack on top of each other, the longer it is, and when you tighten the bag to tell you not, those pills, they like curve like this. So I had to put them in packs of four or five. And I just, boom, what I did was I put motion lotion. It's like a sex glide lube. I put it in a zizi. I put it in a a block bag with these five bags of five suboxins in each bag and I rolled it up and I just kept it in my waistline for just in case because my lawyer is like dude they're going to revoke your bail they're going to find you dain they're going to deem you dangerous to society and take your bail so I had that there right away the judge is like yep your bail's revoked my dad got the 50

000 back and yeah they found me dangerous at a danger then like a month later I had a dangerous hearing again too dangerous to be let out now the kid the victim in this case is an it went to school for acting so he went to school to be an actor he has his act as guild card he's been like um an extra in a couple movies he's professional dude he can cry like that like literally can just put on a whole show like i've known this dude 17 years at the point i know how he is and to see him like talk and the way he testified and like. Tires matter. They're the only part of your vehicle that touches the road.

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I'm just trying to get my bail. They know I can make bail because I had bailed out of the police station for $50 grand. I had a cellmate that was in for murder, and he had a $10,000 bail, and he couldn't make the $10,000 bail. So I'm just trying to get my bail back. dangerous dangerous now the trials coming up now i'm in county at this point like 15 months same unit same group of guys trials coming up my lawyer's like listen dude you got this there was never a knife found on the scene the most you're going to get is assault and battery and you've already been in 15

months so they'll you you'll be freed basically they'll say time served assault and battery I said, yeah, but what if he's going to testify, like, what if it goes the other way? And he's like, well, then you're going to get jail time. He's like, you're probably got like eight years, seven years. I was like, shit, what do I do? So the day of trial, I told him to get me a plea by, I said, get me three years, I'll do it. Now, I only had one charge, so that means no probation. Because one charge, you're either going to get probation for that one charge, or you're going to get sentenced for that one charge.

So I lucked out there with just the one And he came back He said he'd do three and a half I said dude just make it three three years He's like yeah So my lawyer at the time He was also governor's counsel So he's the one in the city or the state

That hires the parole officers He hires the judges He's governor's counsel so like people hold signs With his name when it's time to vote So he's pretty in that And he's like yeah but you'll get parole He's like, it won't have anything to do with me hiring them all, but let's just say you'll get parole. I'm like, trust me, dude.

Because at this point, I've been in 15 months. I already have a ton of tickets, you know, from getting in trouble in jail. I'm like, there's no fucking way, dude. Try to get me the three. He's like, I can get you a three to three and a half, meaning at three years I'll go up for parole. If I'm denied, I have six months left. Did it. Took it, went out.

I had to admit to facts that. weren't true because again I didn't give a statement so when I was arrested it said that I was uncooperative that wasn't me being like hey fuck you guys fuck police no that was just me saying hey I don't want to talk about it so they put down that I was uncooperative

so it was never like my side of the story it was just his and like I said he's an active dude he knew what he was doing even my dad was like wow this kid's good you know tell us about prison so now I go from middleton jail to state prison dude I was on the same block for 15 months like I had friends like real friends dude like I tear it up when I had to leave my friends you know like you're leaving these guys behind I was on a murder block so a lot of people were there for serious crimes um they put you on a murder block yeah attempted murder was my charge but they had dropped it but yeah once it got indicted okay so while I was in county jail it was attempted murder an intimidation of a witness once it got to superior court and indicted the grand

grand jury came up with there's no knife there's no weapon it's assault and battery with a sharp object causing serious bodily injury at that point but i've already been on the block now three months or whatever so they just yeah how did you look compared to some of these guys on this murder block small as skinnyest dude but i had all the friends you know like i hung out with like all the solid white guys all the lind guys run that jail so yeah that's who i hung out with you know What were some of the politics? Was it based on race or? Yeah.

Yeah, not really race. It was more just like, you know, no sex offenders, no rats. Yeah, people have checked in on that block to PC. But that's like someone will get comfortable. And then like a month after they're on the unit, you find out, oh, dude, this guy's a rapist, you know? And then the white dudes will tell him if he's white, the white guys will tell them, hey, you can't be on this block, you know, and they'll lock everybody in and take them off. Was it hard for you to fit in there and make friends? No, right away. Right away.

So this is how I think I got in good with the Lynn guys. So the first time I did heroin, I was 17, or 18. That was in Nashville Street jail. I had, every cellmate I had was black in that jail. I got that one white cellmate. That was the one that introduced me to heroin, and he was from Lynn and he's like dude you know when you get up there just mention my name like he's considered like a solid guy you know like one of that fellas so now fast forward to 2012 when I pick up this state case or the big case I go on the unit whose bald head do I see my buddy John I walked right over and like dude you remember me he's like yeah he remembered everything you remembered my face he said I'm sorry for introducing you to heroin like he remember my girl and he remembered my girl

at the time and that got me in with all the lind dudes you know and like that was the newspaper articles and stitches uh stitches for snitches you know and um guys would joke like hey what what happens to snitches and i'd always be like yeah they get stitches you know that was like the running joke and um i quickly got the nickname right away first day on the unit de murder de murder yep so attempted murder doesn't flow right. D attempted murder. It was D-Murda from day one, dude. 90% of the people that I've done time with only know me as D-Murda. They don't know my first name. They don't know my last name. Just either murder, M-U-R-D-A, or D-Murda. And that just stuck. Like I said, I was the skinniest dude on the block, so it was kind of like a joke, you know? But it stuck.

What are these guys like on a murder block in Massachusetts? Um, some of the them are crazy yeah a lot of fights and stuff i've seen some really really good fights some that didn't they didn't get caught they went in a cell locked the door fought came back out wash their face off um yeah a lot of the white guys like me included we come in and we're on drugs so now we have to kick these drugs you know i mean i came in with a missile in my ass so i i knew i was going to detox from methadone and that's a bad detox especially the high milligrams that I was on. So I broke off all the white dudes with pieces of this because if you're sober for more than like 90 days and you take a little piece of the Suboxone, dude, you get retardedly high.

Like throwing up. Suboxone on the street was 10 bucks at the time. In jail, they're between 100 and 150 each. And like that's the drug of choice in there. It's not hard. Suboxin. So like I broke the dude. People just got too high. All of a sudden you see guys that have been on that unit like a year they're coming out with no shirt on, all red scratching their face and talking to the CEOs. And it was crazy. And I just used those. So I kept, I think I kept 18 of them. I got rid of like seven.

And I used them to detox off of the methadone. And every other person I saw come in on the methadone clinic, they all tried to kill themselves. Every one of them grabbed the sheet off the blanket or they tried to kill themselves in the cell because the withdrawal is that bad. even with the Suboxone that I was taken I still felt the withdrawal from the methadone You know I was still like shitting all the time Constantly cold constantly hot Wouldn't eat

Were you scared living on that murder block I know you made friends but just being there Nah because of that dude John Like I said I had known him Plus this is a jail that I was already at When I was 19 years old For the kid that broke into my house So I already knew more than just him

but he was the closest guy I mean I was like my best friend when I was 17, 18 in the Nashville Street jail Tell us about the worst fight you witnessed Mm-hmm That was probably in state prison I seen a Spanish dude

He came from another prison to our prison I think he was a Latin king He was there like Maybe two months And all of a sudden one day In the big yacht He got his head all smashed in With a fucking big rock

And like the dude got up He had a big hole in his head Blood all over his face He took his t-shirt, wrapped around his head, and he went to his cell. And, like, they didn't get caught right away. It was like an hour later. Somebody must have told to something. And they went right to that cell, and they took them out in a wheelchair.

And the kid who did it, I don't know if he ever got caught. I don't know. You know, because if you get in a fight, they'll lug both ears to the hole. But the kid that smashed him in the head with a rock, I don't think anybody ever told on him. So he was still, like, walking around the unit. you know walking on the big yard what was that fight over i have no idea i heard that he was a rat i heard that it came out paperwork came out that's usually the fights especially the guys that are like they've been there a while so like they fit in and you don't know that they got caught with child

porn you know and they're playing cards and you're eating with the person every night then somebody comes from another prison and they're like yo you know that's that's petichini he's no good look at it this is the paperwork on him and then it's just like fuck the drama dude you know did you ever have to fight never once dude was that because of your reputation or i don't know maybe comedy i used to just make people laugh do stupid shit i was always always locked in myself doing something dude what was something what was like a something funny that you would get locked in yourself for so the overnight shift at like two o'clock in the morning those are usually the soft ceos those are usually the seers they can't deal with inmates that's why

they work the overnight shift. So this is this black CEO. He used to come by every 15 minutes. So I got completely naked. And I took the cap of a, the bottle of like a mountain do. You can buy Pepsi's, you know, like the 20 ounce or whatever they are. And I took that part of it, the skinny part. And I clenched it in between my butt cheeks. So I was completely naked with just a bottle hanging out of my ass. And I'm leaning on the window. I know he's coming. My cellmates's like, yeah, he's two doors down. I'm leaning like this just looking out the window. The seal bangs on the fucking door. He's like, man, I got to go home to my wife, to my kids after seeing this shit.

He's like, what the fuck's wrong with you, Petitini? I'm like, dude, I'm just having a bad day. He's like, you do that shit again? He's like, I'm going to write you up for it. So sure enough, boom, he does another round. I'm in the naked push-ups, naked jumping jacks. Sometimes I'd prop myself up on a barrel because it's like a little skinny window in your cell. And I'd prop myself up on a barrel.

So it was just balls and ass. So then the guy, never to a female CEO, I always made sure it was a guy that was working the shift. So three, four in the morning, they're fucking walking by. And then all of a sudden, they're like, what the fuck are you doing, you know? What did the other inmates think about this? Did they think you were gay or anything? No.

Actually, once I got to state prison, yeah, one guy did ask me if I was gay. He used to have the blowout hair. So I had my hair all fucking crazy like Sonic the Hedgehog. And, yeah, at one prison, my buddy Jim asked. me he's like hey some of the guys are talking you gay I'm like no dude I'm not fucking gay you know did you have to develop a hustle to make money or did your dad just take care of you no I had money at that point so when I got locked up I was on the methadone clinic for a few years like two and a half years so I had saved up a ton of money I was doing the weed thing you know

so I had cash stashed and I just told my dad where the cash was and what happens to the methadone when you get to prison nothing now at the time nothing they don't give you anything. They give you like an Advil. They don't detox you or anything in prison. I told them, hey, I'm on the methadone clinic. I'm going to be sick. They put you in the infirmary for three days, and that's like a dorm style. People sleeping on mats on the floor, you'll do anything to get out of that. So after three days, the doctor's like, how are you feeling? I'm like, I'm great. And he's like, all right, I'm going to send you to a unit. So do you end up staying clean your whole bid? Yeah, no. So when drugs come in, like, you just know that drugs are on the block. You can feel

the fucking tension and county jail because you're on that same unit and like a new guy will come in and then all of a sudden depending on what race he is he goes to his own race so like if he's spanish he goes to the spanish guys now the spanish dudes got whatever drugs and they sell them to us but you can just like feel the tension like nobody's had drugs and let's say seven months nothing's came on the unit everybody's as clean as they get and somebody comes in with a package and like you'll see everybody in their cells grabbing all their canteen and like you know something's gonna hit and then someone will approach you. Again, if it's a different race,

someone will approach you, they know you get high. They'll be like, hey, you know, we get some boxings for 100 each. We got grams of dope for 300. And a couple of times I dabbled and dabbled, you know, while I was there. I always had cellmates that like to do it.

Did you ultimately end up getting fully clean before you got released? Oh, yeah. Why did you decide to do that? So there's not really any drugs there. So once I got to state prison, it was a little different. So drugs really never came in that much or like there'd be periods with like four months with nothing and then somebody would come in but they'd only come in with enough for like five guys and everyone would be fighting over it and I was just like fuck it you know how much time do you end up doing do you get paroled like you were expecting no way so they held you the whole yeah so three to three and a half years after three years I go for probate parole review I think

tell the lady my case, I tell the lady's story, I'm like, listen, I get out in six months. I'm a drug addict. You guys need to help me. You're just going to release me in six months with $65 in mass health. That's it. You're going to give me a ride to the closest court house, and you're just going to leave me there. I need help for these last six months. So if I can get parole, I don't even want to go home. Send me to a halfway house. Send me to a sober house. Send me somewhere that'll teach me how to live like a sober person. So she's like, okay, that's all great. you're going to go in front of parole in three days. Boom, I go in parole.

I ended up taking a couple of these things called johnnies. Gabapentin, it's a pill that some of the guys in prison are prescribed. So I end up getting some, they're good for like light, light, light anxiety. So I end up getting this dude to cheek some for me. I get the Johnny's. So now I'm all like zapped up, ready to fucking talk. I go in a parole. They shackle your feet.

They shackle your hands. three parole people sitting down at a bench you got to go in and sit in the chair dude comes he's like petichini you're up he's like hey i just so you're not shocked your victim is here he said what he's like yeah your victim showed up so all right i walked in i sat down three women parole board so the black lady in the middle says mr petichini how i says i says i'm good she says um wow you got a lot of tickets she said um um Last year you mooned a correctional officer? I said, yep.

She goes, oh, that's nice. She's like, oh, you got a dirty urine here. Can you tell us about the dirty urine? I said, yeah, a little bit of peer pressure hanging with the fellas. She goes, oh, he's just hanging with the fellas with a little bit of peer pressure. So I said, listen, I got six months left. I'm getting out of here regardless. I have no probation, nothing to help me.

can you help me for my last six months? Give me a sober house. Give me a fucking halfway house. Teach me how to live sober. So now she says, oh, well, you've been in three years. Did they tell you when to get up and eat breakfast? I said, yeah. She said, did they tell you when to go to sleep and shut your lights off?

I said, yeah. She says, well, that seems like a controlling environment. And if you can't handle it in there, what makes you think you're going to handle it in a halfway house? If you can't keep up with the rules here. I said, oh, okay, you know. And they don't give you the answer then. They give you the answer like a week from then or a few days from then. Now the victim speaks.

He gets up. Right away, he starts getting all teary eyed. He's like, oh, this kid, like, ruined my life. And I came here today to see if he's changed, if he's a changed man, and clearly he's not. And, yeah, that was pretty much it. I gave a little speech. I'm like, hey, listen, you know, I've been in business my first time upstate. Like, your prison system turned me into a monster.

And she said, yeah, she goes, Mr. Petuccini, are you aware that there's a camera right there and you're being recorded? I said, yeah, it's true. Prison has turned me into a monster, a monster that you're just going to release in six months on the street with $65 of mass health and say, yeah, go ahead, make it, kid. She's like, okay. So now I get bad. Now, the victim speaks, I speak. I get out. The Ips are waiting for me back at the jail.

Everyone else is allowed to go back to the unit. The Ips says, stands for inner perimeter security. They're like the detective of the CEO. He's like, Petachini, got to talk to you. He's like, just to let you know. We all watched your parole hearing. We can see it from here live while you're in the parole. He goes, do you want to get out?

I said, yeah, you have to understand, though. I have six months. At this time, it's five, mom. I'm home in five months. No rules, nothing. He's like, okay. like we were just checking in with you to make sure you were all right because we never seen a parole hearing like that before. I was like, yeah, yeah, I'm good.

Now, if I had three years left, then I might not have went so like, ah, prison turned me into a monster, like the system sucks. You know, I might have done something a little different. But I had five, six months left. Yeah. Why do you think it turned you into a monster? And what do you mean by monster? So by monster, like, just like aware of people and like their actions and like you see people and you see what they do. And I don't know, I'd have to think about that for a minute.

How did it turn me into a mom? Just like focus on myself. Like that was my whole goal was like the CEOs, as you know, some of them are real shitbags, dude. And they treat you like fucking shit. And like the whole time I'm thinking like, wow, I'm off dress. Now, when I get out, in my head, I'm thinking this. Like, I'm going to have a better car than you, dude. I'm going to have a better home than you.

I'm going to have a hotter girlfriend than you. I'm going to make more money than you. I'm not going to be miserable coming here every day. Go home, kick the dog, slap the wife. That's not going to be me. Everything I have is going to be better than yours. I'm going to make more money than you do in a week. And, like, that was my mentality.

So that was like the monster mentality. Like, I only had one goal when I got out. And that was to get where I am today, you know? Do you think those extra, five, six months in prison made a difference in your success now? Did it help you rehabilitate? The five, six months that I didn't get the parole? Yeah, those extra months you spent there. No. No. So if they had let you out at that parole hearing, you still would be where you're at today. Yeah, but I might have had more knowledge on, like, you know, drugs and like what to do when you get out, like how to avoid temptation.

But I kind of learned all that in prison. Just stay away from those fucking people. people, man. Stay away from the deal is I threw out all my, any numbers I got, I threw them all out when I got out. I kept like one kid's number, you know? Do you think you genuinely have to want to change to get to that point where you're throwing out numbers? You don't want to associate with anyone, like you're just sick of living that life. Is that what it takes? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. You just think like, damn, dude, you're hooked on this fucking drug. I needed it every day. I'm finally off the methadone clinic, you know, like, now I heard as of 2000. 22 in Massachusetts,

you've allowed, whatever drugs you were prescribed in the street, you've allowed them in there now. I heard that in a lot of prison. I think even in the federal system they're doing there. Yeah, somebody like sued or something. Because literally, every guy that I saw come on my block that was kicking a methadone clinic,

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work and just like that monster mentality where like dude that fucking CEO that took my pillow and fucking was laughing at me like you know i'm gonna fucking go on buy a brand new Cadillac and like that'll make me feel better you know tell us about how you're able to turn your life around after so i got out still in local 22 um yeah i got right back to work there um i met after like so now i'm not on the methadone clinic so now i can fly i can go wherever the fuck i want to want first week out my buddy mark calls me in colorado the big grower that was from here but he moved out there he's like danny i'm flying you out i'm like what he's like yeah dude i already got the ticket he's like just show up at the fucking airport bring your id bring this he's like and i'll pick you up he's like i want to treat you to something nice you just did three and a half years i get out he has this jacket for me when i had came up a few years prior it was a jacket i really wanted but it was 500 bucks and i was too cheap to buy it i was like ah that's too much dude so he has to have has this jacket waiting for me when he picks me up from the airport.

I get in at this time, now he owns his own home. It's like a mansion dude outside jacuzis. He's growing weed. He's other growers in Colorado would bring him pounds of weed because they knew that he could get rid of it so quick. And what he would do is he would work outside his state. So Colorado is like Maine. It's like there's a ton of weed.

Everyone's fighting, getting the best price. I can do it better. So he would go, he would have a driver go to all the states where it was still illegal. So you could only possess like an ounce. He would find those states where there was no dispensaries. There was no recreational. And this kid literally, he touched drugs, but never sold them.

It was always weed. And I met him when I was 15 or 16 years old, through the weed game, buying weed. He's the only kid I know who made, like, dude, he had Rolexes, like diamonds. Like, he really fucking made it all from weed, dude. you know and that was inspirational to you very inspirational because i knew he didn't he did drugs he said he went to colorado to get away from the oxies he was doing oxies bad and he went to colorado but now he's into other drugs he's into fucking ketamine kenamine he's shooting it not in his vein but skin popping it in his shoulder okay he's doing fucking um pills uh he's prescribed

a clonopin pill he was taking those he was taking um he was taking um um The cactus, peyote, he was doing all these fucking drugs. And he wasn't, when I went out a few years prior to see him, he was just smoking weed and maybe mushrooms and stuff. But now he's doing all these crazy drugs and acid on top of doing, you know, and I'm like, wow, I only know one other guy that parties like that. So at one point I'm staying at his house, huge mansion, dude, there's a big painting of his wife naked, right? When you walk in, like, I was just so impressed. everywhere this fucking kid He passed away now

But I'll get to that Every place this kid took me In Colorado in his area I think it was called Winter Park Colorado Maybe Eh I forget the name of the city in Colorado

But it was a little small town Every place he went VIP Like right away They just knew hey Mark You know boom And he'd have his own boot in the back And like drinks I went there with like $1,000

in my pocket, I didn't spend a fucking dime, dude. He wouldn't let me buy nothing. Everything was his treat. Coffee's in the morning. Now I've only been out like two weeks. So the room that I stayed in, he's like, there's a problem. He's like, there's 40 pounds of weed in the guest room. He's like, and the problem with that is it weighs 40 pounds.

He's like, can you fucking help me bring it to the garage? So we clear all the pounds of weed out of the room. Staying in the room, I'm like, wow, Mark really made it. He really made it all for weed. So now I'm thinking again. Now my mind's going. I'm like, I'll fucking ship it. I'll ship it to myself, you know?

So now I go home. This is 2016. Okay, I was only out a couple weeks. I get him to ship me a package. I ship it. I'm like, let me buy a couple pounds while I'm here and ship them home. So I did that, and it worked. My mom caught wind of it.

Okay, she put two and two together. He just got out of prison. He's only out two weeks. His friend Mark flew him to Colorado. Now he's sitting on the fucking porch, pacing back and forth, waiting for this package to come. So she starts breaking down crying. She's like, Daniel, please. She's like, you're smuggling weed from because she's like, you're going to get in trouble.

She's like, please, please don't do it. I'm like, all right, mom, two days later I get the call. My buddy Mark passed away. Died in his sleep, drugs. But not heroin. Everything about it. Dude, every single drug I seen that kid do except heroin. And he does it all mixed together.

Like, Luan, I never got, I never could do that. And by him staying away from the opiates, he was able to build a fucking married, married a nice little Russian chick, beautiful home, dude, cars, dirt bikes. Yeah, fucking had it all. Was that the wake-up call you needed, him passing away? A little bit, yeah. A little bit, dude. So what ends up happening?

Do you get the weed and sell it or do you throw it out? I sold it. Oh, you did sell it against your moms? Why would I throw out a couple pounds of weed? No way. His death, your mom? Yeah, true. I think it was already sold by the time his death came because it was like three days after

I got back. So do you double down and do it again or you walk away? Now I don't have a connection. Now my connection in Colorado, that's the, that's why I could get regular weed, shit weed, commercial brick, whatever, mids. But he always had the top-notch stuff. That's why I dealt with them since I was 16. I never needed another connection.

So now I don't have a connect I'm like fuck So I'm in the union I'm working every day Dude local 22 Every day I'm working the night shift So it's 11 p.m.

Till 6 in the morning It's a seven hour shift You get paid for eight hours It's good money demolition Knocking down walls Bringing all the trash out Dumping it in dumpsters There's a hippie festival in Maine

And it's about three and a half hours From where I live I don't even know how I found out about it Maybe Facebook. Somebody might have told me about it. I'm like, fuck it. I grab my cousin John. I'm like, dude, it's a three-day party.

The music does not stop for three days. It's way in the woods. It's on private land, big stage. You camp in the woods, but the music does not stop Friday to Sunday. Live bands. And there's like 150 of them. And they just switch out every hour, a new live band. You can wake up at 2 in the morning to piss, and there's a live band playing.

So it's like a bumping hippie fest, dude. all peace and love chicks walking around with the titty's flapping everywhere and yeah it's just a big grass field and jars every table it's like a flea market for weed and mushrooms so every fucking table has just jars of weed on it shrooms signs clean lSD five bucks i'm like why never see nothing like this in my life dude i just got out of prison a couple months ago um you know four hours three and a half hours from home um i end up meeting this kid from maine And he took a big chance for me because here's a kid from Boston. Maine guys don't really like Massachusetts that much.

You know, there's like memes, like go back to Mass. You know, Maine will post it. Like, they don't want us here. So, and a lot of people will come to from Boston to this hippie festival, specifically to stock up on weed, fucking shrooms, because it's literally a flea market for it. There's tables. You go to each table.

You can shop around, touch the weed, smell it. So this kid has the best weed, okay? it's the in my opinion it matched to my buddy in Colorado's you know the quality of it it's top notch so now I hook up with him

he takes a chance I give him my phone number I'm like hey I'm gonna call you dude we're gonna do business together and he's like ah he's like all right I'll save you a number and he just puts me in his phone as Boston Dan

and yeah dude long story short would be he took a chance on me and we made a lot of fucking money together dude You know, at that time, that's 2016, 17. I was bringing him probably a million dollars a year.

Cash. All cash. Two and a half hours, because he lived two and a half hours from me. And I'm working the night shift, dude. I'm going back and forth every three days. Boom, I drive there. Boom, do the night shift. Now I started losing weight because I gained a little bit of weight in prison.

I went from like 130 to like 150. So now I'm working overnight, dude. I'm not eating right. I'm running back and forth from, to Maine and I'm starting to shrink. So I think it's the fucking vape. I'm like, dude, the vape, you know, every time I get a hunger, like something to eat,

I take a hit of this vape and it just disappears. Like it doesn't make me hungry. You know, like cure, like suppresses my appetite. So I think it's the vape. I stopped that. It wasn't the vape. I still wasn't eating. I was just running my body crazy,

working that overnight shift. And eventually, after a couple years of that, of that. So now we're up to like 2018. I've been out two years, two and a half years. I'm like, hey, I'm going to go full-time maybe weed, be a marijuana consultant because I can't legally sell it because I'm a felon, but I can consult. Okay. So told my father, I'm like, dad, listen, I made enough money. I don't want to do this fucking union shit. And he's like, yeah, no problem. He'd take a break from it for a little bit. So I got laid off from the job. I finished the job with these demo guys, got laid off, and I never went back.

I still pay my dues every month, so I'm an active amount. I've been in Local 22 for 19 years. They're not good years, but I've been paying for 19 years. So that was it, dude. I hooked up with this kid, okay? And they took a chance on me. He's like, after two months of dealing with me, three months of dealing with me, now he's getting comfortable with me.

He introduces me to his family, to his mother and father, who are about. both unbelievable people. They grow weed. They're quiet. They're polite. They live in like a little house on a lake, dude. He introduced me to them. He introduced me to his sister. He introduces me to all his friends. So now I become like part of their family almost. Like every time this hippie festival was, which was three times a year, I would drive there and just set up with him. It set up his booth. And it would be, you know, me, my buddy, sometimes his parents would come down. And like, brought me in as a family where I never felt that before. You know, I always had a mom and a dad, and I never, no cousins that I'm close with,

I'm an only child, no brother's sisters. So I really like that. And I, like, respected him for it. I'm like, dude, you took a huge chance. I told him right off the rip. I'm like, hey, you know, if you Google me, I just got out of prison, dude, you know? And like, his some main dude, he's not a city kid. He's, you know, he rides dirt bikes and snowmobiles.

And there comes a fucking city kid. He took a chance with me, you know? and it ended up booming into the best fucking friendship ever, dude. Why do you think you never got caught? After this interview, I might. Who knows? I think the Statue of Limitations is best. Yeah, true.

True. Now, did you convert that money into what you do now? I can't really say that I did. I don't think. So how do you go from that? Do you walk away at some point into the work you do now? Yeah, so I opened up my store. finally like financially stable.

I'm like, dude, I'm going to do it. 20, 20 rolls around. I said, I'm going to do it. I'm going to find a city that the best city. It was either Newbury Street in Boston or anywhere in Salem. So Newbury Street, Boston, a 1,000 square foot store is $9,000 a month on Newbury Street. You're right on, right next to Gucci, Louis Vuitton, fucking Nike right there. I'm like, there's no way I can make that much to pay rent, you know, never,

I'm a profit. So now I start looking in Salem. I find a place on a corner. Nice big windows so I can put all my shit. And yeah, I opened the store. I did it by myself. I didn't really have help. I had help from friends, like a couple of my friends. I don't have many friends that are real friends. I probably have like 20 friends, but real friends, probably five. That's a good thing. Yeah, true. And then I have that family in Maine that I consider them family dude, you know? And you have your girlfriend? Yeah. Oh yeah. So I've known her

since I was 15. So she used to buy weed off me. Over the years, boom, boom. I got in 2020 during COVID, we started hanging out a lot. I told her, hey, I'm opening up a store. And she's like, well, I'll help. You know, I can help you put the shit up and where it goes. And she helped me with the store. And we started getting closer and closer. And then I think it was 2021. I asked her I'm like, hey, we be my girlfriend?

She's like, yeah. Good friend. Sweet. Tell everyone about your store and the name of it and all that. All right, so my store is called Had That. And it was in Salem, Massachusetts. It was there three years. And then my lease was up.

Me and my girlfriend, I've been talking about moving to Florida. So we went to Florida last year just as tourists. Spent a week there. Fucking loved it, dude. It was so awesome. The people are so much polite. They stop at stop signs. They stop at red lights.

Dude, if you're at a stop sign at an intersection and you let somebody go, they actually wave, thank you. In Revea, bro, I haven't seen that in four or five years. People just run through. Still look at me. I almost hit you on the crosswalk. People drive like, dude, in Florida, it's totally different. Big space in between the car.

I'm like, why are they? Then I'm driving and this lady's looking to pull out. And I'm like, oh, my God, why the fuck isn't she pulling out? And I'm getting closer. I'm like, oh, she's going to wait until the last minute. Sure enough. No, she was just waiting for me. me to pass. I said, what? I got to live here, dude. So I talked to my girl, boom, she loves it.

She's always, I hate the sun. I'm white as a ghost. I avoid the sun. I hate, I don't mind the heat, but the actual sun, I'm not a beach guy or anything. I'll die. So I tell her, let's move to Florida. My lease is coming up. I'll open up a store in Orlando, Toro City, and we'll live within a half hour distance from my store. So we look up all the towns. We find Winter Park, Florida. It's 15 minutes from Orlando. Dude, beautiful town. Like, awesome. And I end up flying out there two weeks ago.

Looked at a bunch of houses. My record did come into play there, though. So I even offered to pay a whole... The lease for an apartment is one year. So I even offered to pay the whole year up front. I said, I'll give you the monthly rent, but I'll pay you the whole year up front plus a security deposit.

The record, can't do it. One place, even in a row... rest they won't accept you at this place now these are gated communities so you share a wall with somebody in the house there's just three swimming pools fucking picnic table these tables ping pong tables video games it's like a community style you know there's probably 200 people in this gate you scan it it opens the gate and then then you get in then i ended up well she found my girlfriend found um a house an actual house so a lot of houses in Florida connected to other houses.

You know, they're like big and you share a wall with somebody. You have one side. They have the other side. Boom. So she finds a house. The real estate agent was close by. I went. I absolutely loved it, dude.

There was a fucking intercom built in to the house. So if Stephanie's in, let's say the other room and I have a really good fart that I'm holding in, I can run over to that intercom, press the button, fart, and it comes through the whole house so she can hear it in the other room. I'm sure. Instant. That's what sold it. I says,

dude, this is my house now. Three bedrooms, two baths. No, you don't share no walls with anybody. Garage for the car.

Bang. So I signed the papers and we're officially in July 1st. So you're moving to Florida in a couple weeks? Yeah, the pods. We got a big pod, POD.

They drop it. You load it up. My store inventory, our personal stuff, loaded up, and they shipped it. They picked it up yesterday. Big 16 foot pod.

Did you guys find it? to spot for the store yet? No. So the plan is we're moving there July 1st officially, the both of us. We have a one-year lease. During the first few months, we're going to make up the decision if this is permanent. Do we want to be Floridians? You know, like, is this state for us? It's only a year, so we're looking at it as like a year vacation, but we're going to just live there for a year and see how we like it. If after three, four, five months, We're like, dude, this is it. We're fucking living here.

We're going to be permanent. I'll buy a home. After two, three months, if she's like, yeah, let's start looking to buy a home. I like it too. I'll open up the store in Orlando. We are the real estate agent that got me this house. With the RAM declaration of deals,

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your whole experience that you've shared here today? I would need a little bit to think about that, I think. My message to get out to people. Hmm. I don't know, maybe do better than the people you don't like, you know, people that treat you like shit. That was always my drive, you know. Some of those CEOs really fucked with me bad, dude.

Like, bad. You know, they're bad people, dude. They couldn't become a police officer, so they became a CEO. And like that's all my only thing like what am I gonna do punch him in the face and get a new charge? No So I used it a different way I'm like dude you know I know you drive a truck that's $50,000 when I get out. I'm gonna get a $60,000 car You know that was just like my mindset and I used that mindset even when I was working the overnight shifts I'm like fuck I gotta drive all the way to Maine and then go right to me right from Maine right to the overnight

shit and that would be my drive I'm like yeah I just you know I gotta get the store So while these CEOs are going in and clocking into work and miserable at work, I'm in my fucking dream store. Loving life, meeting new people, making money. Like I said, toys was always my side hustle. So I always did like eBay, toy shows, comic conventions on the side. Now it's full time, dude. Do you think that's kind of a toxic mentality to compare yourself to others to try to beat others? Not others.

It's just specifically the ones that did me dirty. I want to do better than them. You know, somebody might have told on me before that that rat, I want to do way better than you, bud. I want to have a hot-a-girlfriend. I want to have fucking, a better car, better house. That's what I use to become successful pretty much. And then that family in Maine, fuck, they took a huge chance on me and it worked, you know. Are you glad you're out of that type of lifestyle now?

What type of lifestyle? Selling drugs or somebody you did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm happy. I made my money, you know? You know, there are programs that want felons to have the dispensaries and whatnot. Oh, I thought you couldn't in Massachusetts. If you're a felon, you can't touch the weed.

No, some states are promoting it. Like New York City might have been one of the first ones where they gave licenses. I know Connecticut does it too. They actually prioritize people with felonies to get it. To open a dispensary. to open a dispensary. I think there might be exemptions to the crime and stuff, but I know there are things that happen

where they prefer the person with the felony. Wow. Because we made it, dude. We were the ones, the ones with the felons, felonies. We're the ones that were selling weed 20 years ago when it was illegal. I mean, I've only been in one dispensary in Massachusetts. It's all college kids that are running it.

They go to college. You know, some of them might not even smoke weed and their parents will open them a dispensary. Yeah, it is something to look into Maybe even Connecticut I mean, I know Connecticut There are some shops closing So there will be licenses that open up again and stuff

Yep So looking at that, you know, maybe if Florida doesn't work out You come because Florida's not legal So strict You're going to the wrong state right now For weed, I know But I think eventually it will It'll get there

Yeah All the states will eventually make it legal And I made a lot of friends Like I said in jail I ripped up all my connections All the guys that just wanted to give me their number So I could call them and get drugs But I made awesome friends man

And to show them that I have the store Some of them came by some of them needed work Because they were out on parole or whatever I have them dress up as fucking Pikachu And go stand in front of my store and wave to cars And they don't do it They say no find a job somewhere else That's funny

Well Dan thanks so much for coming on the show today man Yeah you're a great storyteller really funny Thanks having me man Yeah I enjoyed this conversation and thanks for reaching out and best luck to you and your girlfriend in Florida. Thanks, dude. Yeah, thank you.

Appreciate it.