Locked In with Ian Bick - Chase Chrisley: How I Survived Addiction

Episode Date: January 20, 2026

Chase Chrisley opens up to Ian Bick about his upbringing, growing up on reality television, and how fame at a young age shaped his life and decisions. He talks about leaving college, the pressures of being in the public eye, and how his struggles with drinking escalated as his family faced intense legal battles. Chase shares what it was like watching his parents’ arrest, trial, and eventual prison sentence, and how visiting them behind bars took a heavy emotional toll that pushed his drinking even further. He also reflects on the moment everything changed — from his parents being pardoned to finally confronting his addiction, getting sober, and rebuilding his life with clarity and purpose. _____________________________________________ #ChaseChrisley #ChrisleyKnowsBest #RealityTV #CelebrityInterview #LifeAfterFame #AddictionRecovery #SobrietyJourney #truestory _____________________________________________ Thank you to GOLD DROP SELTZERS for sponsoring this episode: Head to https://www.thedryoak.com/ and use promo code LOCKEDIN at checkout for 10% off your order. _____________________________________________ Connect with Chase Chrisley: https://www.instagram.com/chasechrisley/?hl=en _____________________________________________ Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Shop Locked In Merch: http://www.ianbick.com/shop _____________________________________________` Timestamps: 00:00 Drinking, Family Pressure & Life in the Spotlight 01:00 Chase Chrisley’s Childhood & Growing Up on Reality TV 05:00 Fame at a Young Age: Friends, School & Social Life 10:00 Early Partying, Alcohol & Family Dynamics 15:00 College Years & Early Signs of Trouble 20:00 Living Through the Indictment, Trial & Legal Battles 25:00 Conviction, Sentencing & Impact on the Family 31:00 Alcohol Abuse After Sentencing & Emotional Fallout 35:00 Rock Bottom, Addiction & the Decision to Get Sober 40:00 Visiting Parents in Prison & Public Scrutiny 46:00 Presidential Pardon & A Family’s Second Chance 50:00 Rehab, Recovery & Rebuilding Life 55:00 Life After Sobriety: Lessons, Growth & Moving Forward Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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whenever I went off the rails. Do you feel like there's a lot of pressure put on you at a young age being thrown into the spotlight like that? I mean, I was pretty much drinking, if not at. every day, every other day.

Did you feel like you're letting your parents down? They would never let us talk about what was actually going on in our real life. Do you feel like your childhood got robbed by being in this lifestyle, filming the show? Not really, dude. I was just trying to stay alive. Are you drinking during the trial? Yeah. How bad was it at that point?

In this episode, Chase Crisley opens up about growing up on reality TV, the pressure that came with fame, and how his life changed when his parents were arrested and sent to prison. He talks honestly about his struggles with drinking, visiting his parents behind bars, watching their trial unfold, and how everything eventually led him to get sober and rebuild his life after their pardon. Chase, welcome to Lockton, man. Thanks so much for coming on the show today. Thank you for having me. And thanks to Jonathan for connecting us.

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south Carolina but we moved to Atlanta when I was young and I was there till I was about 23 and then Nashville what was your upbringing like who'd you grow up with uh well I've got four siblings So I grew up with them and my parents obviously and my dad wasn't very big on like having people around us. So it was really just us. And when do you realize like your life isn't necessarily normal as a kid? Because you were born into a life that was already established. Um, not. I mean, my dad's always been like a hard worker and a hustler. So like my dad didn't come from money or anything like that. So when I was first born like my parents didn't have anything. And my dad just, continuously worked and worked and worked and I think once we moved to Atlanta I kind of realized

okay this is different for sure what was the first thing you noticed that was different um I don't know I mean like obviously like the houses and stuff that we lived in were very nice but I mean I think I saw like my dad's work ethic in the way I mean my dad works nonstop like if from the moment he wakes up to the moment he goes to bed he's working and I realized that like not many of my friend's parents worked like that. How were you as a kid? How would you have described yourself? I was fun. I was playful. I was a happy kid. I mean, I'm happy now. Yeah. You have a big smile on your face. Yeah. I got a lot to be happy about. How would your friends have described you back then? Probably the life of the party, for sure. Yeah. What about your aspirations when you got

into your teenage years, middle school years? What do you want to be when you grew up? Well, I started filming the show when I was 15. So, I mean, that kind of took over and the rest is history. But, I mean, before that, obviously you have dreams of being like a professional baseball player and stuff like that. But then once the TV stuff came along, like, I just felt like that was my calling. Like, it was something I was good at. I enjoy being on camera. And it's something that I'm going to stick with.

Were you in public schooling? No. You guys went private right away? Yeah. Had you ever been in public school in your life? I went to public school when I was like pre-K. Okay, so you don't really have much memory of it. Do you ever wish you got that experience in public school?

Not really. I mean, I had a great experience. All the schools that I went to were, I mean, great education, great people. So they were all faith-based too, which is very important for us. Now, when you join the show, do you leave school and get homeschooled or are you still going to private school? No, I went. So we started feeling. in my freshman year of high school. I went my sophomore year and then I was homeschooled for junior

and senior year. And how is you going on the show introduced to you? Is it forced on you? No, it wasn't really forced on me. We just, we didn't know what was going to come of it. So like, we shot a pilot and then it was pitched to like, I think 15 networks and we got 14 offers. And then I mean, it's still going. What was the main idea behind the show at the time from your perspective? I mean, as you probably know, my family's kind of got larger than life personality, especially my dad. So, I mean, I've always known my dad is far from normal. Like, and some of the stuff he says is just off the wall. So I always thought it was very entertaining, but sometimes it was at my expense. But I mean, I knew whenever people started seeing my dad and like the way he acted,

it was going to do pretty well. What do you think was the moment that first took it to a new level um i think after the first episode aired and like that was like at the beginning of social media and like we kind of saw all of our social medias just blow up overnight and then we got the ratings back and it was like one of the top rated shows on television i was like okay we might have something here what was it like going to school the next day after it debuts it was crazy i mean it was like night and day, like, people that, like, I never was friends with, they never had a relationship with that everybody wanted to come and start hanging out and stuff like that. But I mean, I'm still, all of my close friends I was close with before the show. So, I mean, I'm thankful for that.

You think it would have been different if it was the other way around? What do you mean? You got those close friends after the show and never really established true friendships. Yeah, for sure. Well, I mean, it's hard to know who's genuine, who's not. I mean, I'm sure you You learn that by going to prison. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure your family learned that too, and even you specifically when your parents went to prison. Yeah.

Well, I mean, and I'm very thankful for a lot of my friendships because that, I mean, you know, like that's a very, very difficult time. And my friends were there for me, like, throughout everything. Do you feel like there's a lot of pressure put on you at a young age being thrown into the spotlight like that? I think there was a lot of pressure. I think I put a lot of pressure on myself. And then you add growing up, just growing up as a normal kid,

like you're going to experiment and party and do stuff like that. But then you add like TV and money and fame. That just kind of amplifies it. So then like I was like, I started drinking when I was like 16. So I was like partying and I was like trying to hold it together on camera too. So I think that added a lot of pressure that probably wouldn't have been there. had I been doing that. Did anyone know you were drinking at that age?

Jonathan, do you think people knew? Yeah, I think people knew. I mean, but it wasn't serious then, you know? Like, my drinking didn't really kind of get carried away until, like, my early 20s. Was your dad strict on you growing up? Oh, my God, yeah. Yeah, my dad was definitely the more strict parent. You could even, you could kind of tell by, like, his personality.

because it has to be a certain way and just... Well, I mean, my dad just loves all of us so much. He just doesn't want us to make mistakes. And, like, he's been through life. He knows, like, he's seen people go through a lot of stuff that they wouldn't have had to go through if they would have been doing what they're supposed to. So, I mean, he just wants what's best for us,

and I did my best to go against everything that I was taught to do. Well, it was something he was really specifically hard on you about. Drinking, for sure. Okay. Well, partying in general. But he's been like that with all. my siblings. And where do you set age-wise amongst your other siblings? Um, well, my dad's, my older siblings are from my dad's first marriage. And then I'm the oldest of the kids he has with

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Was what was shown on TV real? Like what was going on in your lives? Was that real compared to what the show was, or was a lot of it not? I mean, some of it was real, but I mean, it's television. So, I mean, everything's definitely amplified. Now, what about college? Did you think about college at all?

Yeah, I went to up to UGA for a little bit, but that didn't. I mean, I couldn't. pick between filming and going to school. So I was like, well, I don't know how long this film is going to last. And I'm, like, I didn't know if I was going to ever get that opportunity again. So I just stuck with filming. Do you wish that you didn't, or you made the different choice? No, no, no. I'm happy I stuck with filming. But I'm happy. Like, my little brother goes to Alabama, and he loves it. So he got the best of both worlds. But I, no, I'm happy with my decision.

What were you going to college for? I was going to college for drinking in girls. No, I was majoring in business. I mean, at that age, it's a respectable decision, you know? Anything specific in business or just as a whole? Dude, I didn't make it to a lot of classes. At least you're honest. Yeah, I did not make it to a lot of classes.

What did your dad think about you going to college? Did he want that or did you want you to stick with what you guys had going on? He's always been very supportive of whatever we want to like to do. So if I wanted to go to college, he was going to support. support me. But I think he kind of got the idea of what I was doing while I was at college. So he was like, all right, I think you should just focus on this. And he was right. Now, when you're that age in a reality TV show, are you watching other reality TV shows to, say, take notes or learn or kind of sculpt into? No, I didn't. Did you watch your own? No.

Yeah, I know. A lot of the people I talk to don't watch it. I just can't stand to hear my voice. That's what it is? Yeah, I can't. It takes a while to get over in podcasting too. I hate listening to old episodes, especially when I'm editing. Really? Yeah, because you just hear your voice. It's just annoying. Yeah. I mean, I think I've gotten over it now, but like in the be, I don't know.

I haven't watched it. But I think like whenever I have kids and stuff, I'll go back and show them. Did you ever get to explore other states, live in other states? Yeah, we lived in L.A. for a little bit. We had a house of Florida. So, yeah, we've traveled a lot. Okay. So you get back from college or you leave college.

You drop out of college, essentially. And then what happens after that? And then I moved to Buckhead in Atlanta and just kept filming the show. Until things happen with your parents? Yeah. So tell us about that what happens when kind of your world comes crashing down. Well, my parents have been fighting this on and, like for, when did it start, Jonathan, like 20, 15 or 16? No, no, no.

Like, all the legal stuff. I think it was later than that. I think it was like, I think it was when I got out of prison. Yeah, it was. No, they were dealing with it before that. Oh, like behind the scenes. So when did it start behind the scenes before the public knew about it? So I know that my dad and my, well, my parents were dealing with it for several years before the indictment came down.

And then once the indictment came down, everything kind of like became way more intense. And, I mean, we were still filming the show, though. And they would never let us talk about what was actually going on in our real life. Because Chrissy knows best was technically like just a sitcom. So we were having to like go and film and act like everything was okay when behind closed doors we're like getting ready to fight a Fed case. Did that bother you? Yeah. I mean, just seeing like how stressed out my parents were.

And like whenever like the rock and the foundation of the entire family, me is like under that much stress everybody's stressed what did you know about fed cases and criminal proceedings i didn't know anything i mean i'm sure you didn't either until you had to go through it yeah because you must have been what 24 25 when it first started around that age i think it was like 23 yeah 22 23 and then keep in mind i was drinking a lot so my my numbers might be mixed up but um then once everything kind of went down that's when my drinking kind of kind of picked up and then we went through the trial and then my parents went away and that's kind of like whenever I went off the rails now the drinking before you ever heard that there was an issue

with your parents that was just socially for fun you didn't think you had a problem I didn't think I had a problem no but then as time progressed and then once I stopped drinking to like celebrate and have fun and started drinking to just like escape and numb the pain and that's when I was like oh no we might be we were having an issue Do you feel like your childhood got robbed by being in this lifestyle, filming the show? Do you wish things were different? No, I don't. I think that we were blessed with an amazing opportunity.

Like, not many people get that kind of opportunity. So, no, if anything, it was a gift. What about dating? What was that like at that age? You know, being at college, everyone knows you. It was fun. It was definitely fun. Are there a lot of people that kind of leach on to you or try to use you?

Yeah, I mean, there's definitely like certain people that like come into like a relationship with those motives. But I think a lot of people, they just won't have a good time, you know. But yeah, I definitely, a lot of people definitely use me. Now from your perspective, did you think your parents would actually get arrested when those proceedings were happening behind closed doors? Honestly, no, I didn't because like I know who my parents are. So I was like, well, they didn't do anything. So there's no way that this is going to, like something's going to come out of this because it's a lie. And like the guy that is responsible for this has gone on, he's a documented liar.

So like there's no way. But it happened. Were they preparing you for a worst case scenario like PR wise? We're going to do this, X, Y, and Z. We weren't really focused on the PR stuff. Like we were more focused on like keeping our family together. And I mean, they didn't. we didn't prepare for worst case scenario because like my dad as always instilled us to be a fighter

like we're not going to quit so if you keep fighting eventually you're going to win and eventually we did so the day he uh your mommy and your dad get indicted what was what happened what was going through your mind it was i mean it was heartbreaking it felt it felt like my like the world was like coming down but then i don't think it really hit me as hard until trial and then sentencing and then the report dates. How did you find out that they got indicted? Was it through the news or they told you? No, yeah, we knew it was coming.

But then obviously, whenever it happened, it was all over the news. Did they actually get arrested to where they like swarmed the house? No, no, no, no. Lucky you guys. Well, we didn't have a Ponzi scheme. Hey, they showed up in my house like I was a terrorist.

What did you do? Apparently terrorism, but, I mean, they said it was. was a Ponzi scheme, you know. You're Madoff Jr., aren't you? Yeah, they actually, one of the agents told me that, and I didn't know who he was at the time. That's how, you know, he called you Madoff Jr. Yeah, they said the prosecutor called me a young Bernie Madoff.

They don't, it was too, this was 2014, 2015, so the Madoff thing had just happened a few years ago. They, the documentaries, the shows, and all that hadn't come out yet. So it wasn't fun. How do they compare that to that, though? Like that Ponzi scheme CNN wrote like an article about like the top 10 biggest Ponzi schemes of all time and they put you in there about number 10 that doesn't make sense it was 500 grand I was like this they have a picture of me in the article well CNN is noted for always being very reputable so yeah did you watch the clips from the golden globes last night of her um what's her name the comedian roaster yeah roasting um CBS no I didn't see that she was like in the club she was like it's called BS news Like that's what the CBS stands for. Really? Yeah, so it was really funny.

Yeah, she's funny. She's funny for sure. She had a great, like, last couple of years. She really blew up. Yeah, well, she did the roast on Tom Brady and that kind of. Yeah. So your parents get indicted. What's that initial conversation with them afterwards?

Like, I don't really remember us having a conversation about it. I mean, we, they kind of kept us in the loop and, like, conversations were happening around us. So, like, we knew what was going on. But I mean, you know, everybody's so stressed out. Like, I didn't want to ask a lot of questions. I picked up what I could and just hoped and prayed for the best. What do you think of the public backlash? I don't give a shit what the public says.

The opinion is like assholes. Everybody's got one. So, like, I don't give a damn. But, I mean, they, like, we did go from, like, everybody loved us to, like, a light switch being flipped and that all this hate coming in. I was like, yeah. Okay. The news will do you dirty and everyone's sharing it.

Yeah. Was there anyone close to you that you respected or loved that kind of threw you under the bus at that time that you remember? Oh, yeah. I mean, there's tons of people. Not necessarily thrown, like, threw me under the, or threw us under the bus, but kind of just turned their backs on this. Or distance? Yeah. Was filming still going on while you guys?

Yeah, we were filming growing up, Chris Lee all the way up until trial started. And then we obviously took a break. to go to the trial, and then everything stopped after that. How often were you at the trial? Every day. What was that like from your perspective? It was awful. I don't ever want to be in a federal courtroom again.

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You weren't like a character witness or anything? Okay. And what were the rumblings during the trial from the defense attorney, from, you know, your family? Well, I mean, our defense team thought that we were going to win. And I mean, whenever our attorney, like, cross-examined my dad's business partner, we were like, okay, well, this is like their witness. And he just got torn to shreds. I don't know if you've read the transcripts or not. But, like, if you go up and read him, you can see, like, he was torn apart. Like, he literally set on. the stand like our attorney asked him you've been caught lying under oath correct and he was like yeah and he was like why is that he goes sometimes i just lie to lie he said that in open court and they took that testimony were you thinking throughout the trial what would happen if they were convicted i don't think i think i think i was just i was holding like holding on to like so much hope that i wasn't even i wasn't even allowing myself to think like that which was probably

naive of me but I mean when you're in that situation like all you can do is just hold on to what little hope you have left did you feel like you had to take a bigger role with your siblings being the oldest child of your you know your full 100% siblings um I probably should have took a I mean I definitely should have taken a bigger role but like once I mean we stopped my parents went away we stopped filming everything kind of fell apart and that's when I was I just I kind of crumbled honestly. Are you drinking during the trial? Yeah. How bad was it at that point? It was picking up, but after my parents went away is when I kind of went off the rails. Okay. And they get convicted. Tell us about that day. It was awful. Like I remember whenever they stood up and they,

they read the verdict, I just felt like I had the biggest pit in my stomach and I was like, oh my God. And I just remember I looked at my sister. My sister was just like, she had like the just a blank look on her face. Literally it was like life left everybody's body. Do you feel like you were lacked love and attention during that whole period of your life? I mean, your parents are focusing on insurmountable issues. You know, how can they dedicate that attention to you?

No, no. My parents have always done a good job of like letting us know that they're here for us and like they're, you know what I mean? Even while they were away, they were calling and checking up on us and still being great parents, but I mean, it's, no, I don't think, I didn't feel that way. No, even after conviction, are you guys thinking that they're not going to go to prison? No. I mean, we knew some, we knew they were.

So we just, I think that the worst part, I think that once you, the conviction comes down, you're already serving time because then you've got to wait to, to see what your sentence is going to be. And I feel like that period of time is the worst because you don't know where you're going to land. And then once the sentencing day happened, that was just, that was the worst part of it. Were you guys talking in between the conviction

and sentencing of what possible outcomes would be? Dude, it was all such a blur. I think, I mean, we didn't know. I mean, we knew, like, what the, like, from the point system, what it said, but, I mean, we just, we, the government was asking for like 25 years from my dad. So, I mean, when I heard that number, I was just like, oh, my God. So I was preparing myself for that. Was it hard to stay away from social media at that period of time? Yeah, I didn't, no, it wasn't hard.

I deleted it off my phone. Oh, you deleted it? Yeah. Because that was such a big part of, you know, your brand. Well, I didn't delete the account. I just took it off my phone. But even just posting actively and whatnot? Yeah, I didn't care about that.

What about your siblings? I mean, my sister's very, very strong. And she was able to look at everything. I mean, the good comments, the bad comments, and just keep pushing forward. Now, tell us about sentencing day. I know we drove down to Atlanta, and we went in, and we were just hoping for the best.

And then whenever they gave my dad 12 and a half, my mom, seven and a half. And it was just like, I was like, what the hell? Like, what is our new normal now? Like, it just, I think it would have been easier if we weren't so close as a family. But we are. So it was just, it felt like a death in the family. Were they both sentenced on the same day? Mm-hmm.

Just back to back, same hearing, same judge. Yep. Because their trials were joint like together. Okay. Yeah. Did you speak at sentencing? Mm-mm. Were you asked to speak?

No. I know my dad and my mom spoke. But whenever like we got there, like we didn't know what to expect. So the first half of the day was all right. And then the second half of the day, they just hammered us. And then our attorneys took us back into the room and was like, all right, they're about to do it. So we need like, we didn't know if they were going to get taken that. they are not. So the only mercy that was shown was they didn't have to report that day. But it was

that was like just excruciating because we're sitting there. We hear the sentences and like that's pretty harsh sentences. And I was like, okay, well, if they're going to do this, there's no way they're letting him come home today. But they did. So I mean, I guess for that I'm thankful. What was going through your mind the second they read those sentences to your parents? I mean, just like it was just like my entire world just collapsed like my family's broken up i didn't even think about like the show or work or anything like that i was just focused on like my family like what the what is next did you have a moment where you know the judge reads the sentences they tell it in months are you trying to figure out how many years that was yeah because i did that for mine i couldn't

figure it out when she said my dad's i was like like how many years is that yeah but my dad's to tall i mean He didn't crack at all. Like, no emotion. Is it scary, you know, sitting in that courtroom and being behind them and you look on the right and there's the prosecution side with all the agents and their supporters? I hate all of them. I hate every single one of them. And I wish nothing but terrible things for them. Well, maybe not death, but. It's fitting.

It's a difficult situation. Yeah, for sure. You sounded like your dad just in that moment, too, at the accent and everything. It's fitting. It's definitely fitting. I wouldn't be pissed off if they dropped dead. What do you guys say to each other, you and your family, after that hearing when you're able to go home? My dad was just like, we're going to get through it. We're going to enjoy the time we have left, and we're going to figure this out day by day.

I mean, you can't really say anything, you know? I mean, none of us knew what we were in store for. Was there hope that they wouldn't go to prison based on appeals? Yeah, a little bit, but I mean, we knew that they were going to. going to have to go anyways because of how long it takes for the appeal. So and the crazy thing about it was my mom won her appeal. But they didn't let her out. She got her sentence reduced, right?

What it got reduced. No, well, they were, did they reduce her sentence? I think something got, I remember, something got reduced, but then the judge increased her probation time. So it's like, what? Do you think they got a harsh sentence because they were reality TV stars? I think they got it because they were public figures and because they were Republicans. So you think politics played an aspect into it?

A huge aspect, yeah. And were you guys looking at other celebrities that were doing maybe similar things to see what their sentences were? I mean, like you have Teresa and Joe Judice. I was in prison with Joe. Were you? Yeah, I just had Teresa on the show too. Yeah. So, I mean, we saw what they went through.

So, but then our sentence, the sentences we got were just so much longer. So it was just, it, it, it just didn't match up, you know, like, you don't get that long of a sentence that it was, that's why, I mean, we know it was politically motivated. I remember reading about it at the time and I just thought that was ridiculous. Insane. I mean, you look at Jordan Belfort, got five years for $100 million. Yeah. And he actually did it.

He only served three or two, two years. Granted, he cooperated, but that was just a part of it. Yeah. What's up here at a time like between sentencing day and actually self-surrendering to prison? I mean, it's torture. Because you know it's coming. So, I mean, we tried to enjoy just being with each other. I don't think any of us left my parents' house until they left.

So we all just stayed at the house. But, yeah, I mean, it's torture. What time of the year was it? Did you get to celebrate one more holiday, birthday, or anything? Yeah, we got to celebrate a last Christmas, and then I think they reported it in January. What was that last Christmas like? Is it even joyful, given the circumstances? No. I mean, we were thankful that we were able to have that last Christmas, but no. I mean, you've got this huge thing hanging over your head. Bonjour, compadre. It's the...

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Was there a lot of pressure put on you about how things would run in the family? businesses, anything like that? Not really, dude. I was just trying to stay alive. Now, tell us about your drinking at that point in time, too. It definitely picked up at that point, and then my parents go away, and when they went away,

it kind of just felt like everything collapsed, and there was, like, I didn't really have anything that was really stable in my life. Like, before, like, our family is so close and so tight that we have that core family. Once that was broken up, there was nothing there. So I definitely was drinking more, going out, doing a lot of shit I shouldn't have been doing.

And thank God for my sister and President Trump. I mean, the parting came through. And then I was like, all right, I've got a second chance. I need to get my shit together. Tell us about the night before they self-surrendered to prison. What was that? Like, what was your last conversation with them as a family? Um, it was, I don't know, my dad was like, he told me, like, just, he was like, son, you just,

you got to pull it together. Like, you got to stop with the drinking. You got to stop with the partying. Like, like, you've got to be here and help move everybody forward. And I didn't do a very good job of that. Um, but I don't think I was in a position to, especially with drinking the way I was. Do you think he was worried about your health and your safety? going to prison? Absolutely. Yeah, for sure. I don't think

I don't think my dad thought I was going to be alive. Like, especially once he went away and like progressively like the worst that he got because I mean at the other day alcohol was poison.

Like it's, at least for me it is. Like I'll break out in handcuffs real fucking quick. And looking back at pictures on how bad I was looking like I think that if my parents didn't get the

pardon if they didn't come home like i just didn't have anything to live for and i guess that i mean that's part i mean that's part of that's my own fault but i just like didn't have i didn't see the light at the end of the tunnel you know self-surrender day do you go with them i went i took my mom and savannah took my dad oh yeah because they were split up yeah because my dad was in florida my mom was in kentucky and the judge made them self-surrender on the same day yep you know in the Teresa and Joe case, they split it. Yeah, our judge hated us. I was thinking even watching that, they would do that in your situation.

Yeah, no. They hated us. What was that car ride with your mom like? Not a lot of words were spoken. And then whenever we got there, I just remember hugging my mom for the last time and watching a walk in. And I was just like, I was so angry. And I stayed, like, I was angry for pretty much the entire time that they were locked up.

after you actually drop her off what what happens you know do you go home right away do you stick around for a little bit no we went we went straight home yeah because i we had to wait for savannah to get back too so why did you choose your mom rather than going with your dad i mean it wasn't really choosing it was just i had my mom's parents so i went my i took my grandparents and my mom and then savannah went with my dad okay now tell us about how the drinking gets after they leave and you're kind of on your own. Yeah. I mean, I was just, I was going out and it was, it wasn't, I mean, it was not great in the beginning. I was definitely starting to drink more and more and more. And then the last probably eight to 10 months that they were locked up is when I was like,

I mean, I was pretty much drinking, if not every day, every other day. What was your drink of choice? Vodka or tequila. And were you living at home at the time? No. Where were you living? I'm like 20 minutes away. Oh, so you had your own place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think that made the situation worse?

I mean, dude, no one could tell me anything. I was going to do whatever I wanted to do. But I'm glad I wasn't living at home, so I didn't, like, subject my siblings to that. Looking back on it now, do you wish you handled that period of time differently? Of course. I mean, like, I think anybody that goes through that and you don't handle it the way you want to, yeah, you have regrets, but I'm thankful to God that I've, I've, I've, I lived through it.

I made it to the other side. I'm able to, I can help other people that are going, either going through what I went through or are struggling with some of the things that I was struggling with. Like, there is light at the end of the tunnel. Like, you can turn it around. And, like, I'm not going to sit and, like,

and, like, beat myself up over it. Like, because what we went through was very, very traumatic. But I'm thankful that I've, learned these lessons in my 20s rather than my 40s. What were those conversations with your siblings like when you were in your dark space and your parents are away at prison? Dude, I couldn't have a conversation with anybody. Like, I was just so stuck in my ways and like, I meant, dude, I was an asshole.

Like, nobody wanted to be around me, which is fair. What's your biggest regret during that time period? Probably not being there for my sister the way I should have been. that I couldn't show it for myself. How did you feel about her approach to things? Because she was very vocal. She was out there. She was their biggest advocate and really kind of changing the narrative.

And she had a very pivotal moment at that time, at a point in time where you were at your rock bottom. Dude, she's a rock star. Like, I wish I would have handled it the way that she did. But Savannah has this, like, I've never seen anything like. She's like this unique strength that, like, When the going gets tough, like Savannah will like pull strength from every different direction. And she's going to come out on top.

But she's a fighter and have the utmost respect for her. When you're in that dark period of time, what was a typical day like for you? That I remember. Yeah, that you remember. Dude, I would wake up and I would just start drinking. And then I would go out and I would drink all. night and then hang out with whoever I was hanging out with and just rinse and repeat do the same thing every day do you look back on it and be thankful that you know it didn't get worse you know

maybe getting into a drunk driving accident or anything of that nature I'm thankful I'm not dead yeah I mean dude I got down at the very end of it I was a hundred and twenty seven pounds wow and I'm 190 today oh so when you guys talk about about weight, it's you bulking up, not losing weight. Yeah. Yeah. That's good, man. Yeah.

Were you working at the time? I mean, I had, like, different things that I was, like, dabbling in, like, real estate and stuff like that, but not really. What about visiting your parents? Do you visit them in prison? Yeah, we would go visit. We would switch off weekends. So, like, if Savannah was seeing my dad, I would go see my mom and then vice versa.

But, like, my dad was seven hours away. my mom from Nashville it's like three and a half was that the closest prison they could have sent your dad I think it was the closest camp okay you got to go to a camp yeah now tell us from your perspective what it's like visiting someone in prison I mean it's I mean you know it's demeaning is I mean they try to beat you down and let you know like you're beneath them the guards I mean I think the whole system in general but I mean, they're not all bad. There's some good ones, but for the majority, yeah, they all suck.

How did they treat you? When you say you get there for a visit, you're going to see your dad? Well, my dad had them scared shitless, do you? He scared the shit out of everybody, so they didn't say a word to me. Okay. What about when you were visiting your mom? No. My dad struck the fear of God into the whole BOP.

So, like, nobody would say anything to me. Okay. Now, what about TMZ or paparazzi or anything? They would, they were outside the house a lot. like toward like before they surrendered and then on the day of and then obviously when they got out they were everywhere they were outside of the prison and all of that stuff when I was in the prison camp George Papadopoulos self-surrendered and TMZ Papparazzi were all outside and we were trying to sell photos of him to TMZ when you're just in the scam back dude I mean we were trying to

make money you know in the prison camp you know I'm sure there's people doing that to your dad in prison they didn't get one Yeah, but I'm sure there was. They called Juicy Joe or whatever. They had him working out at the weight pit at... Jonathan, don't let me ever do some slick shit around him because he will sell a video. No, no, no, no. This is totally different, you know?

But wait, wait, let me grab my phone real quick. Yeah. Let me get some recorded. I don't do anything worth recording anymore. No, I mean, everyone was doing it, you know? And we didn't actually sell him because he was in and out so quick. What was... He had a two-week sentence.

Oh. That was one of the guys on Trump's, like, transition team or whatever, his first term. Um, he was one of the first people that got sent to prison. Isn't it like insane? Like how, like, especially like the past couple elections, like, if you're in a position of power and then that switches, like, it's like free game. Like, they're coming after you. Mm-hmm.

They're locking your ass out. Oh, it's so, I mean, perfect example is Mayor Adams in New York City. Mm-hmm. One day prosecuted heavily by the Biden administration. Trump gets in. No more. Gone. Yeah.

Yeah. It's just nuts. But, you know, the inmates in prison are super pro Trump because of all the laws he's changed in prison, which I think is good. Like when I was here, there was no programs. There was none of that. And now you hear about all these guys that are able to get out a lot earlier. Yeah.

I mean, my dad has done so much work, like helping people. I mean, I think he's helped over 100 people get home since he's been home. Yeah, I see his posts all the time. Yeah. And threatening the like the wardens or the this or that. I don't think it's a threat. It's more of a promise. Like if you're not doing your job,

you're not treating people with like decency and respect and like giving people their human rights. If you're like, yeah, he's going to put you on blast. What was your favorite vending machine food in prison when you visited them? Dude, it was all ass. Half of it was expired. Wait, really? Yeah. You got the bad experience.

We used to love like the cheeseburgers, the cheeseburgers, the chival. chicken wings cheese burgers yeah we didn't have any of that really nothing whenever my parents came on a visitor or front it said go get me the cheeseburger or the wings or anything it was I think my mom had the cheeseburgers but my dad didn't have anything okay like maybe a bag of chips that's it yeah would people stare at you on visits or was everyone over no I think everybody was just thankful for the time they got with their family member so nobody everybody I met some of the nicest people ever in visit in the visitation room yeah did Did you make bonds or friends with any of those individuals?

For sure. Yeah, people that I'm still friends with to this day. People like your age that were in similar situations? People that were my age, people that were a lot older. Now, how was your drinking when you were going to the actual visits? Was it still getting bad? Yeah, it was definitely getting bad. One time I showed up, I was hung over, and my dad was like, if you ever show up hung over here again, just don't bother coming.

How did you feel about that? I felt like a piece of shit. What would you say was the actual rock bottom moment for you and you're drinking? I was actually out with Jonathan. And I lost the car for like two days. I didn't know where it was. What do you mean lost the car? I lost the car.

You got to give us more background. I don't know. Obviously, I don't know. I didn't know where the car was. Where were you? I don't know. I was at like a steakhouse or something. And I guess the car had been gone for like two days.

So you went into the steakhouse and you got drunk at the steakhouse? Yeah. And then you drove there. Apparently. Okay. And when you left or got out, the car was missing? No, the car never went missing. I just forgot where I put the car.

Oh, okay. And so I left the same house and I wasn't going to drive drunk. So I went like, I guess I went out and went and did a bunch of shit. And I couldn't remember where I put the car. Do you feel like your friends, like say a moment like that enabled you? Like if I, if I, if they're friends. Dude, I'm not one of the people that like is you can enable. Like I'm going to do whatever I want to do.

Like you can try to tell me, okay, you shouldn't do this. and then I'm like, oh, well, then I'm definitely going to do that. That's how I was. And now I'll listen because I know that I don't know everything. And I think that's like one of the best things about getting sober. It's like it's okay to not have all the answers, you know. But like when I was drinking and stuff, oh, I had all the answers to everything. And I was so wrong.

So how does someone with that mentality actually get sober then? How do you put, you know, your pride aside and do what's best for you? for me I just saw like the pain that I was causing like I could see my family was worried about me my friends were worried about me and I mean it just got to a point where it was really tough

to look in the mirror and I mean I was just doing stuff acting completely out of character and then my parents got pardoned and I was like okay this is God giving me a second chance I need to make the most of this and that's when I decided to do that the rest is history.

Were there rumblings about them getting a pardon? What was going on behind the scenes from your world? I mean, you never know if it's going to happen. But I mean, yeah, that's what we were hoping for. And, like, I would find myself thinking about it, like, dude, we're hoping for a presidential pardon. And, like, the likelihoods of that happening are so small. And then it happened.

And, I mean, without my sister, that would have never happened. So, I mean, I'm so grateful for her. I just the person I am today is definitely not the person that I used to be and I'm very thankful to God for that. Were you thinking on election night that the idea of a pardon would be possible? Was that? Yeah, dude, I was. When I was watching TV and I saw Trump one, I was like, shit, this might happen.

And then it did. Now, what about your parents behind walls? Were they thinking the same thing? Yeah, well, I mean, I think it goes back to what we talked about like with hope, like whenever we were in the courtroom. you're going to hold on to any piece of hope that you can. It's going to keep you going. They also went to trial, so they had the appeal process to continue them.

At this point, my dad, we didn't win the appeal. Okay, they lost the appeal. My dad did. My mom didn't. And so once the election happened, like, we're just holding out hope. So where are you when your parents get pardoned? Who gets the call? I was in the car with one of my boys.

buddies and Savannah called me and she was like he just had the pardons and then we had like seven hours before they had to be picked up what are you thinking the moment she tells you that i mean i was just overjoyed i don't think i've ever been that happy in my life i mean it's the you know how it feels to get out i mean you had a little rougher yeah do you talk to them on the phone before you pick them up yeah for sure well we i didn't get to talk to my mom very much because they already started processing her out. But my dad had cell phone. So my dad was like, I'm coming home, bitch.

And who picks up who? Savannah went to get my dad and then Grayson. And I think my cousin went to go get my mom and I was at the house. What was that moment like being on the free world with her? I was incredible. I mean, I'm over, I mean, I'm still overjoyed about it. What was the first meal you guys? had I don't even remember dude I was so excited there's no way I was eating like I was I was just so

happy that they were back and what was the moment like when they first got to see each other again I mean they just jumped into each other's arms because they didn't have really any communication other than like the emails because they wouldn't they wouldn't let them do phone calls or anything like that yeah either emails or letters only right yeah so that was probably a very good moment yeah my dad was ready to get at it does he start work right away or are you talking about something else what do you think i'm talking about you said get at i'm you're sick you're the one that mentioned it i said work and you looked at me like three heads what is wrong with you oh man you're really good yeah he's ready to get out of it see what's wrong with you

we don't know we're still trying to figure that out now when they get out are you sober no that day i was but in general no no and then I think it was about two weeks after they were... Crack a Cayman Jack Margarita and taste your escape. It's America's number one for a reason. Cayman Jack is a premium malt beverage with flavors. Please drink responsibly. Camin Jack beverage company, Chicago, Illinois.

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I was letting them down, which is terrible. I mean, it's a terrible feeling. And I still feel bad about that to this day. But, I mean, I think the turn that I've made and, like, continuing to stay sober is something to be proud of. And it's something that hopefully will inspire others. Did your dad have a real sit-down man-to-man moment with you when he got home? Yeah, but, like, he didn't really need to because I knew. I mean, you have to look in the mirror and I looked like shit.

So yeah what what did you look like at your your weakest point you mentioned the weight but what other traits did you have? I mean I wasn't sleeping much like I just looked like like I was knocking on desk doorstep so what do you do to actually take the steps to get sober once you're ready to make that mental change? Well I went to rehab so I went I went into treatment I was there for 30 days and it's it was the first time of my life where I was like okay this all makes sense like why? But when I went, the place that I went to had a lot of like intensive therapy. And I had a lot of issues that are in things that had happened to me from all the way back in my childhood until like all the stuff obviously that we dealt with that I just like I never dealt with. I just would just bury it, bury it, bury it, bury it.

And then I would use drinking to cope with it. So once I was able to like talk through all those things and I was not, I was against therapy. I did not believe in it. But once I gave it like a real shot, I did it. And I got to the end, like the root of all the problems. And I figured out like why I was doing this and what was really bothering me. Once I got, once I did all of that, it really opened my eyes to, okay, I can have a beautiful life, but this has to go. What part of your childhood do you think impacted you the most?

I ain't going to tell you that shit. That's for a therapist. Okay. nothing nothing brother your closed book in that regard yeah okay i think some things got to say that's fair yeah but at least the audience knows that there was something that affected you i think everybody's got stuff that affects them you know i mean some some some of it's traumatic some of it you don't even realize until you get older um i think a lot of situations i put myself in those situations and they i would have never been in those situations had i not been

had I been home and not been out drinking and partying and doing what I was doing. Was that your first time ever in rehab? Yeah. For a lot of people, rehab doesn't work their first time. I think that you have to want it to work. I think a lot of people go to rehab because they're forced to go. I wasn't forced to go. I wanted to go.

But I think when you're, and dude, towards the end, I just got exhausted. I was tired. So I was ready to hang it up. How long into the rehab process did you really feel good and safe and sturdy in your sobriety? I think about two and a half weeks into it because I was like, okay. Because the first week, I was like, I want to get out of here. And then after that first week, second week got a little bit easier, third week, fourth week. And I was like, okay, I'm ready for this.

And I've been sober ever since. Do you think it felt like getting out of prison? at the end of that rehab stent? No. I think, no, because it wasn't bad. Like, I went to a great place. Well, like Malibu passages or whatever. What are those places?

I mean, I was living out there. It was like the people that were there. Yeah. Like, they were great people. Like, they genuinely care. They wanted to help the people that were there and they did. Have you been able to connect with like-minded people that have been in some more shoes? For sure, yeah.

What have you learned about yourself and those connections? I think that I've learned I mean one thing I've learned about myself is not having all the answers is okay I've learned to be more compassionate definitely more humble and everybody is going through something everybody's got shit you know and going through what I went through and being where I'm at today I take that into consideration. Like before, if somebody was like being like an asshole or a dickhead or something, I was like, okay, well, the hell with them. Now, whenever I have an encounter or someone, I'm like, all right, well, they're going through

something. That's why they're acting this way. And I didn't have that kind of compassion before. Do you look at things differently now, the world differently now that you're sober? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I was a glass half empty person. I'm a glass half full. What has been the biggest struggles?

since getting sober for you have you faced challenges no and i'm grateful to god for that like i've been around people drinking i've been out and i just think don't have the urge to do it and i'm very i know there's a lot of people that struggle with that and they can't be around it so i'm very thankful for that yeah a lot of people do have that struggle yeah like they can't be around it but i mean my friend jonathan he's like a hardcore alcoholic like he drinks a lot really yeah and like i'm trying to get him some help. But he'll do it on him. Should we check him into our rehab after this? Sorry, bro. But no, in all seriousness. There's a lot of people that can do that. So I'm thankful that I can be around it and I can still have a good time and be around people and not be tempted. Do you feel like

you have a stronger relationship with your family now that you're sober? Oh, yeah, way stronger. I have a stronger relationship with them, with my friends, with God. I watch the episodes with you and your dad and you just seem so happy. I am. I'm in the best place I've ever been in. And he's so proud of you and happy for you too. Yeah. My dad's my best friend.

I think doing podcasts as families is really cool. I've had my dad on the show a couple times and I do episodes of my girlfriend. Does he know about your only fans? Yeah, he knows. Yeah. You're slinging that little thing around. A man's got to do what a man's got to do to put food on the table bed, you know? Eat no shade.

I was slinging cheesecakes in prison, you know, and not doing that. you know i think i'd rather sling cheesecakes yeah i used to actually be the guy that would escape the prison your dad's gonna get a kick out of it to go bring back the bags oh you were the mule that was the mule yeah i was the runner i was the they made you do it didn't they no no that one i was doing it for myself they'd pay me 200 bucks and i'd go and get everything what advice would you give your teenage self if you could sit across from him today i would tell myself just to be myself don't try to be what all these other people want you to be be true to who you are be true to how you're raised and be humble because i was not humble and you think you're humble now i'm definitely

way more humble for sure i feel like being i mean i still know that like i'm the shit but i'm just kidding i feel like being humble something you you constantly work on as a person for sure yeah humility is key i don't think you can be successful and not not be humble where do you see yourself in the next five or ten years. What's next for Chase Crisley? Definitely, I mean, in business, I think everything's looking very good. Hopefully we can inspire a lot of people to, I mean. Drink shelters.

Well, I mean, it's a healthier alternative to soda and to not drink in alcohol. Hopefully I'll be married and have a couple babies and sail off into the sunset. And start the next spinoff for the Chrysley Empire. Maybe. Do you have a girlfriend? No. No, okay. Not right now.

Well, the future Mrs. Chris Lee is out there for you. Yeah, she is. Or missed her, depending on which way you swing. Depends on how desperate I need cash. Well, Chase, I appreciate you coming on the show today. Thank you, man. I appreciate it.

Yeah, it's good to finally meet you. Our mutual friend said a lot of good things about you. He did not say it about you, which is crazy. Wow, I guess I got to talk to him. He said, I got to watch my back. and now, but the only fans, I understand why. You know, some information I got to learn to keep private. Well, you did, you're not doing good at that.

I was just trying to make nice with you. I can't wait until I tell my dad this. You don't have to tell him? I'm going to. You keep it private? Oh, no. You think he's going to be like, you were dropping dick off for a few hundred bucks in a hot kick.

That's crazy. He's going to get a kick out of the guard in the prison. Yeah, he'll help you with that. That guy should not have a job. Definitely. Well, thanks again, man. I appreciate it, bro. Thank you.