Locked In with Ian Bick - Crip Survives Rikers, Bullet Wounds & LA County Jail | Jayson (Rame) Albertorio

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

Jayson “Rame” Albertorio grew up in the tough neighborhoods of New York City, where he joined the Crips at a young age. His teenage years were spent bouncing between juvenile detention, Rikers Island, and New York state prison. After his release, Rame tried to turn his life around—but when he fled probation and moved to Los Angeles, things took another dark turn. He was shot in the face and locked up again, this time in LA County Jail. #RikersIsland #LACountyJail #Crip #PrisonStories #Survival #GangLife #TrueCrimePodcast #prisontalk Connect with Jayson: Jayson's movie trailer: https://youtu.be/JwIPDF2BkPY?si=0HjLhazoXNgYUMCv Jayson's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/litrame?igsh=MnVndmQ5N25iaDY1 Lake george the movie Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lakegeorgethemovie?igsh=YXZ1cnUzbXJhZXhk Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Shop Locked In Merch: http://www.ianbick.com/shop Timestamps: 00:00 – Rame’s Story: From Survival to Redemption 03:35 – Growing Up in NYC’s Lower East Side 07:07 – Fighting to Prove Himself as a Teen 12:01 – First Arrest & Time in Juvenile Detention 17:17 – Joining the Crips & Hustling the Streets 22:44 – Becoming a Father While Deep in Crime 27:44 – Robberies, Hustle & Rikers Island Nights 31:20 – Violence, Gangs & Survival Inside Jail 35:35 – Life After Prison: City Bikes & Art Hustle 41:02 – Parole Problems & Fleeing to California 45:05 – Shot in the Face: Surviving LA Streets 51:19 – Locked Up Again in LA County Jail 55:03 – Returning to New York & Starting Over 59:09 – Fatherhood, Redemption & Lessons Learned 01:02:07 – Final Thoughts: Turning Pain Into Purpose Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Some guy like pulled my beads. And I was like, yo, stay right here. I'm going to come back and shoot you. He's like, yeah, I'll be right here waiting. Why do you think it's so violent in there? People came in and like tied us up and robbed us. What was it like as a Crip on Rikers? I got shot on my face.

Tell us the story. What happens? How do you get shot? Jason Rame, Albertorio, went from running the streets of New York with the Crips to surviving Rikers Island as a teenager to getting shot in the face in Los Angeles and locked up in L.A. County Jail. This is one of the raw survival stories you'll ever hear. Here.

Rame, welcome to Locked In. Thanks so much for coming. Thank you for having me, man. Yeah, thanks to your team for reaching out. And I want to plug in the new movie you got coming out, the Lake George movie if you want to tell the audience about that. The story is based on true events, you know, crazy stuff to happen about me getting locked up, crazy stuff, you know. You guys got to check it out. You got to see it to believe it.

Yeah, we'll have the trailer and everything and the details about that in the description. this episode. And thanks for the merch. I got my official Lake George merch. Yeah, man. Dude, I just saw the trailer and it looks sick, man. It's really well done. No, it's official tissue. Yeah, I really enjoyed it. It's good. It was all on the EFCs worldwide. But the movie's not actually out yet, right? Not like officially, like... Just like the premiere for it. Gotcha. Where'd you grow up? I grew up in Lower East Side, LES. What was that like growing up there? It was like different. Now it's like gentrified but before it was the very hood in like Spanish area who'd you grow up with I grew up like with a single mom you know just my mom me what'd she do for work she was like she worked for payroll

and like police plaza like HR or not like clerical okay for the police yeah oh wow and I him went to the streets crazy right and no siblings no I'm the only child I'm I mean, I have like seven other than from the father's side, but my mom, I'm the only one. What's your ethnicity, your background? I'm Puerto Rico, Italian. Okay. And where was your dad? My dad was always locked up.

From a young age? Yeah. Did you have any relationship with him? Not really, because he came out when I was older, and I felt like I didn't really need him in my life's done. Would your mom tell you about your dad when you were a kid? You know, he was no good. You know, she brainwashed me young. I mean, was it a good thing or a bad thing at the time?

I think it was bad. You know, you should never shit on your dad. I feel like most kids look up to their dad, you know? So having that as a child made me, like, I think go more into the streets. Did you have a lot of friends that had both parents in the picture? Nah, growing up in the hood is always single parents. So you didn't feel like an outcast for not having your dad? Nah, that's why, like, everyone just goes towards, in the hoods.

That's why it's more together because everyone's like the same. Is it more common for a single mom household rather than a single dad? Yeah, you never really say single dads. Why do you think that is? I don't really know. I don't want to whether you get into that. So how would people describe you when you were a kid, like a young teenager? I don't know.

I was pretty like ruthless because growing up it was all Spanish area. and I, like, look predominantly white. So I had to, like, prove myself more than, like, a regular person did. Why do you think you had to prove yourself more? I don't know. People tested me more. When was the first time you ever got tested?

I was, like, 11. You know, people always call me white boy. I didn't really like that growing up. I knew Spanish very well. So what would you do to them when they called you white boy? Spitting their face, you know? It showed me proved my own. You know, have to, like,

Hold my own. Do you feel like you were a violent or angry person? Yeah. I used to get beat. So I guess I used to project that to other people from home. Who'd beat you, your mom? Yeah. Why would she beat you?

Because she used to work most of the days. So I used to cut school and everyone used to come to my house and party. I always throw like hooky parties and shit. Sometimes they smell at like weed, you know, like, extra people still be there when she comes home you know skipping school bad grades why do you think school didn't interest you at the time

I didn't have like a little tension span I just hated being told what to do did you end up finishing high school or you left early nah I dropped out as soon as possible I was like 15 and when's the first time you ever get into trouble 15

there was a direct correlation but do drop it out getting in trouble. So what happens? Oh man, I used to be in the gang and you know you wrap your colors and you wear crates. Some guy like pulled my beads and I was like you stay right here. I'm gonna come back and shoot you. He's like yeah I'll be right here waiting and I came back with a gun. I tried to shoot him and I know and it was like a 44 bulldog and I was very skinny and when I tried to shoot him it went right over his head. and that's when I got caught by police.

They didn't find the gun because I, like, threw it. But I got, like, a reckless endangerment. And I got, like, six months and adolescence and then five years probation. Have you ever used a gun before that? No. Where did you even get access to a gun from? The hood is, you know, you got money. We get money.

You could buy a gun anywhere. What gang were you affiliated with? I was affiliated with the Crips. And how do you get recruited to the Crips? My neighborhood was predominantly Crip. So it's like when you see everyone Crip, you just want to join what's popular. Did you feel like it was family-oriented? Very family-oriented.

Because you have like an older brother, you know, people got your back. Even though they jumped you more than enough time to get you strong, but it felt like to build tougher skin. It was very family-oriented, you know. Yeah, why do they call it a brotherhood, but they'll still beat the crap out of you? Well, when you're like, you're like predominantly not as much popular, like, other gangs. So you've got to get used to fighting, like, about five to six people to one. It's like, blood is like six to one with crips.

So if you keep getting jumped, you get used to fighting more than one people. So when it's time to fight blood people, everybody used to fight and fight. five people so it's nothing you know getting jumped by five people when you get jumped every week by your own homies you ready for that war how'd your mom feel about you being associated with the gang she must have known oh yeah she was she wasn't a fan was she someone that was against street life and everything it's done for she was predominantly strict so i was like 14 15 like that's when she stopped hit me and I was just like not having it no more. Do you think she gave up on you?

Yeah. And do you think she hit you out of love to try to make you a better person? Yeah, she wanted me to like do right, you know, like, be like graduate, do the right thing, go to college, get a good job. Do you think the hitting you made you do the opposite made you work about? Most definitely. And with strict parents, you just learn how to like hide better, like, you know. What's something you wish she should have, or you wish she did do back then? I don't know.

Instead of hitting you. Supported me more, I guess. Yeah? Especially with everything I did. She always found the bad in it. You felt unsupported? Yeah. And she was always at work, so I was just doing me.

Did you ever work a normal job as a kid, or was it always just street life? Nah, I never had a job until I got released from prison. Wow. All right, so that shooting happens and they send you to a juvenile detention facility? Yeah, I went to Spofford and Horizons. That place has a batter up, Spofford. Yeah. Tell us about your experience there. Oh, it's just a lot of fighting, you know?

And then you see all your friends. It's like school, badder kids. Do you think you learn more about criminal behavior in there? Oh, yeah, most definitely. What were some things you learned in there? Like how to make knives and blades. I'd shut off well. Why do you think it's so violent in there?

Because those are all kids growing up without parents in the streets, you know? New York wasn't... I feel like Bloomberg changed New York. Before Bloomberg, New York was pretty wild. So you think he made it better? No, he just put more cops. And your era was before Bloomberg?

Yeah. Okay. So you do the six months there You get out, you're on probation Do you go back to school or what happens? I went to like a GED Then I didn't like GED I did some program called VESIT

It's like some trade shit You're like in a resource room Or special ed Send you to Veset programs You could get trade I got like a building maintenance To be like a What's the fuck is you call

Like a super Yeah yeah To be a super You know all the basics And like I did that successfully, but every job interview I went to, they just look at me and just never hired me. Just that one look. They just judged me off my look. So I just did that.

But no reason I felt like it was a waste of time. But I went back to GED school and I actually completed it this time. When you say look, how did you look back then? I used to always have like braids and grills. I was more like, I guess, like a hood Spanish dude. You know, poppy shampoo. Who was that? What was that rapper?

The white rapper that did that back in the day? Oh, vanilla ice or? Oh, riff rap. Riff rap. Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah. He had the good shape up, though.

How did your mom feel about your presentation? No, she used to hate it. She used to hate it. She's always, they'll pick up your pants. Why are you buying long shirts, you know, before everyone used to be baggy? She used to not like it. She hated my friends. But I was too, like, deep involved into the streets.

It was already done. What was the first crime you committed after that juvenile detention stint? I was actually doing pretty good. I wasn't getting caught. So you were committed to crimes, but you didn't get caught. And I was skateboarding more. I started like to skateboard and stuff. Was that like a passion?

Yeah, it kind of got me out the hood a little. But, you know, eventually after skateboarding, still got to ride right back to the projects. So it's like, go back to, it's like getting out the hood, skiing with, like, cool people, seeing different life, and going right back to misery, you know?

So do you think there was a party that genuinely wanted to get out of the hood in your circumstances at the time? Yeah, definitely. Once I started seeing other people and like how the way they live, I was like, damn, I want to be like that. So what do you think always held you back from accomplishing that? I mean, not having the money. But there's ways to get money.

Oh, yeah. That's when I started hustling. So you started hustling at that point? Yeah. What do you like, 16, 17? Yeah. Guys, enter the room, hog first. Blue Chew isn't just a tablet.

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It was like an older OG in my hood. He asked me if I had a mailbox key. And I'm like, yeah, he's like, all right, so listen, I'm going to put drugs in your mailbox. I'm going to call you every time someone's downstairs. All you got to do is just open your mailbox, take whatever's in there and give it to them. And then you got like a dollar bag

And it was like nickels of crack So you get a dollar from each bag And I was making like four or five hundred a day Just from this guy using my mailbox It's pretty good money for a kid Yeah, it was great How long did that go on for? Like two years

And did you get caught for that? No, they started putting cameras in the projects So that brings you to about 18 Yeah What happens at 18? Where do you go? I got a girlfriend pregnant. By accident or purpose?

No, it wasn't on purpose. It was just by the grace of God, I guess. And did you end up having the kid? Yeah. So then you become a father at 18. Yeah. What's your plans for the future at that point? I was going to hustle harder.

You didn't think that a kid would make you want to change? No, man, I wanted my kid to be just as wild as me, may be crazier, you know? I was on my way to being, like, at old. He was going to, like, do the, you know, hold my legacy. And what does an OG mean in Crip World? Like, original gang still. Is that, like, top of the food chain in the Crips? It's, like, a goal you want to get to.

You have to, like, go to jail first. To become an O.G? Yeah. Now, in these gangs, do they pay you, or it's just you have to bring your own hustle to it and you chip them off? I mean, they're the ones who provide the drugs and guns. and like every month you like to chip in allowance to buy more guns and everyone just contributes from their own hustles yeah and whoever contributes to less

the one who gets beat up the most how much would you have to contribute say you were making that 500 a day what are you given them 100 each day oh no no no no like a week you never tell them exactly how much you make you know people get jealous no one wants to like see you do better than them And does being in the Crips give you, like, protection to conduct your business?

Yeah, most definitely. Because if something happens to me, just a quick phone call, get like 10 people right there in a second. Did anything ever happen to you? Yeah. When you were young? Yeah. What happens?

The first time I actually ever tried to do it. Some guy was like, I want six, and I was counting it. And he just grabbed it from me and ran out the building. And, you know, once I got out the building, he just disappeared. And I was like, where the fuck did he go? I swear God, it was like, crackheads then were just elite. They're not like how they are these days. And then when I told the big homie, I obviously got jumped for it and had to pay $30.

And what happens to him? Did you guys ever find him? No, man. So you get jumped and have to pay $30. Yeah, it sucks, right? How bad do they beat you up for something like that? Bad. You just got to, like, ride up the elevator.

Up 13 flights, down 13 flights. Four people on each side. You're in the middle. Wait, what? You go into the elevator and they beat you up for 13 flights? Yeah, you got to fight back. If you don't fight back, you get kicked out the gang. They don't want no, like, whims.

So the fight lasts as long as it goes up and down? Yeah, you get stuck. You just fighting to the cops or a fireman come. Doesn't it stop at different floors, though? Oh, yeah. A bit like a vote. a regular person come in and we stop and just act like and that happened.

We're all sweaty and all swelled up. And then you shut the door and then they go back to fighting again. No, if someone comes in, we just redo it. Yeah. No one ever says anything? You ready to ride that elevator? It's like a scene. Wow.

What was the worst? Eventually they start wanting it. Yeah. Because a lot of people start fucking up and they're just like, I'll go on the elevator. They really know what's up. And you thought it was cool to live this way at the time? Yeah, I don't know why.

Thinking back at it, it's fucked up. I mean, I wouldn't want to be around people that just beat me up, you know? At the time, I thought I was with, like, real family, you know? But to be honest, I wasn't. I was with, like, a dumber, older person and just telling us young kids what to do. You know, you're 16.

You can shoot guns. You're not going to catch a felony. You're going to get like a youthful offender. So just always be ready, have a gun on you. After 18, you get charged as a adult. So, you know, as young kids, is always the ones with the guns. And what happens when you turn 18?

Oh, that's when you start getting felonies and time starts being real. Do you stay in New York or do you move somewhere else? No, at least something like upstate. No, like you personally in your life, where'd you go? Oh, unless you get a job or want to get out the hood or able to get out the hood, you stay right where you are. So what were you doing once you turned 18?

I was trying to skate more because I was getting better at it and not being in the hood as much. and my mom had kicked me out because she kept finding guns and she just wasn't she was scared and I started to respect it had a son in the house

like I didn't want people coming in in my house looking for me trying to you know and then my mom gets hurt because I had to happen once like people came in and like tied us up

and robbed us and stuff and it was like a wake-up call like that and put my mom at wrist can't really do this Tell us that story about being tied up and robbed. So, used to bang on my wall on the stair, in the hallway, and I hear in my door, and I'll go and sell, you know, out the door. And just, people knew that.

So it was just getting to a point. I was getting, like, too much money. Like, I was flashy. And other people, like, started, like, noticing. And then one day I heard the bang, I opened the door and just boom. Pissed the whip. They tied me up, they tied my mom up, took all the drugs. And me and my mom was tied up until, like, homies came.

And it was like, yo, what's up, Rayman pull up to the meeting. Like, they see my door open and they woke in and see me and my mom tied up. It was war after that, but putting her into that type of danger that kind of, like, It was a wake-up call. How'd your mom react to that? Oh, she kicked me out immediately. She knew you were selling drugs out of the house. Yeah, I used to give her money.

And she allowed it because you gave her money? Yeah. It's giving like a thousand a week. She didn't even make seven hundred. Crack a Cayman Jack Margarita. And taste your escape. It's America's number one for a reason. Cayman Jack is a premium malt beverage with flavors.

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available to all Disney Plus subscribers. Terms apply. 102 weeks. What kind of drugs were you selling? I sound like weed and crack. That's it. So you have the kid when you're 18. Are you still hustling?

What are you doing? Yeah, I'm hustling. I'm hustling more, but now I'm hustling in the skate park. Cell phones is more. Everyone has them. So, you know, I'm going more off the phone, doing more deliveries. I'm not in the hood as much. Still, like, at the end of the day, I got to go back, but I'm outside.

How long does that go on for? Not that many long, because I started living in Jersey. My mom eventually adopted my son. So I used to just go there to watch him and then go back. to Jersey. Do you think you were a good dad? Yeah. Even back then? Yeah. Even given the life you were living? Yeah. I like my baby mother had to go to school, so I used to have to be there every morning. While she was in school, I was watching them. Did you guys stay together throughout the whole thing? No, we was never really together. Did you guys live together? She lived with my mom. Okay, she moved in with your mom. Yeah. Did they have a close relationship? Not really.

She didn't really like me, so she didn't like my mom. But, you know, Foster Care was just giving her money and my mom money, so they dealt with it. So you moved to New Jersey. Then what? Oh, then eventually, we, like, the Crips, we started getting more money. We driving cars now, buying more guns. Eventually, you know, start robbing people. and I went to jail for a serious crime. Who are you robbing?

Drug dealers. Tell us how you would rob a drug dealer. We would rob, like, white drug dealers. Like, people that was rich that didn't need to sell drugs, you know? They were just doing it, like, to look cool and shit. It's like, yo, bro, you don't need to do that. You're already cool. Like, stop trying to fit in.

People hustle to, like, survive. You're hustling to, like, try to fit in. and you don't even need to do that. So, you know, we pray on the week. And then, you know, I was always like the skateboarder, so they, like, kind of trust me more. They were like, oh, yeah, we could tell him, you know, we have pounds, weight.

I tell people, I'm going to hear, like, yo, this guy got pounds, let's get him. But with robbery, you spend money faster. The faster you get it, the faster you spend it. So how would these robberies actually go down? Like, once you find the, victim, the white guy to rob. Yeah, we'll buy, like, you know, build a relationship to they trust us.

And they eventually, like, show us where they live. I'll always be the one like, yeah, I need, like, 10 pounds. I'll be, oh, yeah, come through. I'll come through, you know, count some money. Then I'll just open the door, go back and then, like, four other motherfuckers running with guns. Sometimes I act like I'm getting robbed, too. Sometimes I'm just like, yeah, motherfuckers. fucking deserve this

get the fuck out of New York I'd be most of the dudes from Cali like coming over here there's never like other hood dudes you respect like a hustler especially if you came from the bottom

and most of the time you're just robbing them for the drugs because they probably don't have cash on them when they're coming to meet you with drugs I mean they have cash but we're not like taking TVs and none of that shit because we're like you can't report the drugs

But you're actually robbing a drug deal You can still fucking go to jail for robbery Found out the hard way Tell us about how you got caught This time I really wasn't involved in this robbery I just set it up The dealer got shot I just told the dude like

Oh my friend needs a bunch of pounds Can you meet them? So-so address And I told them like What to do, where How you look everything was like good and I was just in hanging out with my girl

and I was just like gonna get like minimum but like a good enough amount from the robbery but eventually like the dude was reaching for something and one of the guys shoot him and from there on it just went real bad where's he got shot at like then the died twice and what happens as soon as he got shot?

He's a fucking ex-marine because when the dude Dude shot him try to run away. He tripped and fell. The Marine jumped on my friend and grabbed the gun and was going to, like, shoot, but the shit jam. But he, like, beat my friend. He had, like, 80 stitches on his head.

And he was, like, crazy. I was like, damn, I didn't even know. And, but I remember getting locked up, like, two weeks later. And it was basically saying, like, we robbed the Marine. Because his cell phone got damaged. So it was basically like we tried to rob his cell phone They didn't even like bring up the drugs How did the robbery get linked back to you?

Text messages Between your friends Yeah Because they got caught first Yeah And did your friends flip on you or? One of them And he was a Crip too

Nah Oh So you were doing this unrelated to the Crips You only had like two of them Okay So tell us about when they picked you up Oh I was just hanging out of my girls house and I was selling drugs. Someone was downstairs. They needed like an ounce. So I was ready to

go serve him. When I opened the door, I just remember just getting slammed on the floor, boom, and it was like a bunch of cops. And I was like, what the fuck? And they like arrest my girl. And they started interrogating her and her family. They locked her mom and dad up. It was like crazy. And she was like a little white girl. She didn't know anything. I like kind of reversed the robbery, act like it was not as much. So whatever she told them was like bullshit

she didn't really know. But they had everything on text messages. They knew what happened. And who picked you up the NYPD or is this in New Jersey? Yeah, NYPD. So you're back in New York at this point? Yeah. I just lived in Jersey.

I was in Hoboken, take the PATH train. Back then, it was cheaper rent. What did they charge you with? a robbery in the first degree. And because you have a record from your juvenile, you got some prison time for it? No, a juvenile and all that,

like, you get, like, a youthful offender status, and they, like, they don't show. Okay. So how much time do you get for this? I get, like, five years. And where do they send you? I was in Rikers Island for, like, 16 months fighting the case. They were trying to give me, like, 15 years.

He was trying to say I was, like, the head organizer, like, why older people are this? to this young kid to do like crazy activities they thought I was like powerful what was it like as a Crip on Rikers the worst worst experience of my life day one what happens uh people in the when you go into like the dorm areas is yo Rikers Island is just straight bloods Crips is like non-existence they have Cripp houses there's like PC they're like two of them in each building I didn't know this.

I just knew the jail. They're like bloods who go into the gate right before you enter it. They'll be like, yeah, what's up? Cus? They'll act like they're crypt. And you go, oh shit. And you throw up your set.

And once you go in there, bo-d-d-d-d-do-do-do. Beach your ass up. Sometimes they try to even cut you. And what happened to you? You get sent to another dorm. And that was like an ongoing cycle to eventually tell them

like, oh shit, I'm in this gang and they send you to like the Cripp house. And how many, are there Crips are the minority in there? Oh yeah. Why are our Crips a minority? I guess we're better at doing crime. We don't get caught.

You really think that's the case? Yeah, definitely. And do you know about the rivalry between the Bloods and the Crips? Like, why that is? There's some West Coast shit. In the streets of New York, it's not that as bad.

I have fought more Crips than Bloods. But in jail, it's crazy. So in jail, they don't get along at all, the Crips and the Bloods. What about Crips and Crips, do you guys get along? Sometimes. Sometimes you might be in a fake Cripphood, you know? Like, some of those, like, neighborhoods aren't real, and they just made up. So, another Crip, but, like, they'll test you on knowledge and shit.

And if you don't know your shit, you're obviously going to get fucked up. What was the most violent thing you had to experience at Rikers as a Crip? I was getting cut. Tell us the story. I was brushing my teeth. I was in another dorm. And the blood dude tried to cut me. And I just felt like the blade.

And I just seen it. And I just started fighting. I got jumped. At least I didn't really get cut. Everyone cuts it right because out. It's like raise a tag. People can't wait to cut you. And they treat it just like it's a game.

Yeah, you know. And what do they get brownie points for cutting someone? Cut it could be like become like higher status, I guess. And are you keeping track of all the people you cut? Eh, not really. What do the guards do when you cut someone? Do you go to solitary? Yeah, go to the box.

How much time did you spend the box? I mean like six months. Six months? All throughout those 18 months at Rikers? Yeah. Okay. So how, and then you get sentenced to five years? Yeah, five years.

And you go upstate? Yep. What was that like? Better. Still bad, but not like Rikers Island. Is it gang-oriented upstate? Yeah, but you have every other gang. So it's not predominantly blood.

I mean, blood's still outrun everyone else, but you got like kings, you got them, bathears, all the other gangs, and the white gangs. Because New York, you got all upstate New York, like people forget about, they're upstate too, you know? Who's the biggest gang in New York prisons? Bloods, I guess the dumbest gang.

And even in the prisons itself, not like a jail like Rikers, they don't treat the Crips well? No. Usually most Crips turn Muslim. for protection or why does the Muslim community protect them? Because Muslims for some reason in jail are big. It's like a gang.

The Muslim community? Yeah. In federal prison there was like a whole car of Muslims and they kind of all stay together. It's like a gang itself. So after you do your time in prison, where do you go? Do you go back to the city or do you go somewhere else? I went back to the city. And you're getting back in trouble?

Nah, I did over like 10 years of Crip. I got to like, geez. status, I had people on there me. I felt like I accomplished what I wanted to in my gang life. I was over it. So I just folded my flag. People respected it. What does that mean?

It's like I'm not active no more. You know, after 10 years, you could do that. And do you have to get jumped out? No. If it was before those times, you could get jumped out. Sometimes they jump you out real bad to be like a lesson. You can't really get out of this.

Break your legs. What was your plans for after leaving the crypts? I wanted to do. No, because they didn't do nothing for me in jail. No one wrote me, no one sent me money, all this shit I did for them in the streets. I was in jail by myself. Only my girlfriend, my mom, was there.

You realize it's not as much of a brotherhood in the future? Yeah, I was like, damn, what the fuck happened? I was ready to kill for these guys, and I won't even get a letter back. How old were you when you got out of prison? 23. And where do you go from there? I went back to my mom's. And she was willing to take you back?

Yeah. Did she notice a change in you? Yeah. I was, because I utilized upstate. I was just working out, reading. I stayed focused. Wasn't getting into trouble. I just wanted to be free.

It's not a fucking retarded men. Like the worst of the worst. the fucking bozos of all bozos you hate that shit I hate being around men like even this car right now riding up here most I have been around men in years you've been with a lot of men

shit you guys rolled in deep no men actually but being around men is like the worst thing in the world you guys rolled in deep I'm actually around mad bitches and hoes trust me if you know me I stay with the hose you guys don't got one girl out there you rolled up with Yeah, that's their problem.

You're riding with them. I was trying to bring some bitches. To be honest, I was about to bring two with me. So, 23, what are you doing for work? You're living with your mom, you renounce gang life. Oh, I started work for City Bike. Doing what? I was a bike mechanic.

Really? So what do you drive to the different bikes and fix them in New York City? No, we fix, like, all the flats and shit. All that new shit where the guys come and fix them, that's new. Before we work in the factory. and I just fixed the unactive bikes. Was that a good paying job? Yeah, it was really good.

How long did you do that for? Like a year and a half. And what happens after that? Eventually I was working, when I got out of jail, one of my friends became a famous artist, and I started working with him. And I was actually getting more money working with him than City Bike. So I was just hanging out in this ill-ass law for my famous artist's room.

And what were you doing for him? I was basically like his assistants He was paying me well I was around dope models And famous people Dope law office Soho What kind of famous people

Like he said Rocky and shit And how did you get linked up with this guy He was like one of my skateboard homies That just got famous Yeah when I was in jail shit Those four and a half years I was in there He made those four and a half years Count in the streets

Most my friends, besides the hood ones, but all my other friends, they did well. Everyone prospered. Did that inspire you to do better? Yeah. It made me want to just... I felt like I would have been someone or something or like a professional skater or something.

So what happens with this art gig? My friend, Hocula, he's a dope artist. So I'm just around like the industry. street people. So I just start doing art because his shit was like really bad. But he's selling it for like 20K. I'm like, I could do this way better.

So I eventually started doing art and he didn't care as long as I took care of his stuff. And I started doing my own. He threw an art show for me and it was very successful like people bought it. But then I feel like he started getting like jealous.

You know, like he started thinking like damn this guy might Oh, shiny, younger, handsomer. And I used to always have, like, models. They always, like, young, 19, 20. They're more my age, so they always want to hang out with me. And I used to be like, damn, you go get away from me. This guy's going to get mad, trying to stay loyal.

But they always just cling more to me, and just eventually started being a lit artist myself. And do you stay in New York while you're starting here? I'm New York for life. But don't you end up in California at some point? Yeah, because eventually they switched my parole. I had some guy for three years. I was doing great in parole.

And then they gave me some old lady, and she was a bitch. I went to Cali with my friends to just go skate. And when I came back, like, I told parole, and everything was good. And the whole time, three years, I was smoking weed. None was ever bad. But as soon as I came back I had a new PO She pissed testing me

This is before weed was legal And she was like Oh you don't have to do a drug program I'm like damn I just Had permission to go to Cali Like what happens in Cali You like everyone smoked really Like fuck

And she was a bitch And she kept trying to send me this drug program I tried it and just It just made me feel like jail again And eventually I just said Fuck parole and I ran While I was in Cali for those two weeks, I met like a lot of good connection.

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Yeah. And are you still 23 or is this a little later? I'm like 26 now. Okay, so you had a good three-year run in New York. You're doing well. And then this incident happens and you go to California. Yeah, I was there for like nine months. Chilling.

What are the charges for escaping parole or probation? It's just like a violation. They're not that serious. So it's not like a felony or anything? No. It's abscounding. Like the marshals, like they treat us. Like you're a fucking killer on the loose, you know?

What about your kid? You were fine with leaving him? Yeah, I told him. He was older then. I was still in contact. All right, so you get to California. What happens? How do you survive there?

I was living with this girl. This is a new girl. There's always a new girl. You dog. Woof, but you know. Yeah, I was just chilling with this girl. And she was just taking care of everything. And then she'll...

You got into some of my sugar mama. Yeah. I knew it from New York. And she was doing like yoga shit and like holistic healing and all that. So she just always go to New York and like leave me there. And sometimes I'll be there by myself.

And eventually I was like... I started getting broke, you know? She's not answering callos. I'm like, yeah, what I don't know what I do? No, I can't use my name. I'm on the run of parole. you know once like I try to use my ID or anything like job-wise they'll know my location so I was basically like a ghost you know and does everything go well in California nah what happens

I started messing with other girls started thinking like back to my always like damn do I got to do this to survive and I was in like a dope Airbnb, it was like a famous director. I started thinking, like, this guy probably got a safe in here. Only, like, old me would think that, but, you know, you got to survive. So I was looking for this safe.

Like, what director in Cali don't have a safe in his house? Couldn't find it for a while. And I defound it. How did you end up in this guy's Airbnb? The girl I was messing with, that's where she lived. With this director? Yeah. How is she related to the director?

She's just Airbnb did. Oh, from the director? Yeah. So why would he have a safe in his house that he's not living in? Why not? Well, I wouldn't, if I'm having Airbnb, I'm not renting someone something. You think someone's going to break into your safe if you're not home? I don't know.

I just, it seems a little odd to have a safe in an Airbnb. Yeah, it wasn't much in it. I mean, more than enough I needed. So you find the safe, how do you break into it? I had a friend that's like a locksmith. He like, FaceTime me. And we was just on the call and, like, show me what to do. Filed down some needles and I eventually cracked it.

And what was in the safe? Guns. He had guns in the safe? Yeah. How many guns? Three. And you steal all of them. Of course.

And what do you do with these guns? So, one. How much you got for it? A thousand. It was already a thousand in there. It was like mad Thailand money. I went to currency exchange. She was like $400,000.

But it was like $83,000. That shit was nothing. And does a girl know that you broke into the safe? Nah. She's in New York. Okay. Wait, she flew back to New York. Yeah.

All right, so you're in, you buses. That's why I was. I ended up doing it because I was just, she wasn't around, I was broke. So you break into the safe, you steal these things, you sell it, you make the money, then what happens? I go broke again. And I'm like, fuck it, I'm about to start robbing plugs now in California.

But before that even happened, I meet another girl, I bring it to the house. We do a bunch of drugs. I ended up getting shot. Tell us the story, what happens. How do you get shot? I got shot in my face, actually. Crazy story.

I was chilling with this girl I used to fuck around with. And when I met her, she was Polly. When I found out what the fuck Polly was. I don't know what that shit was. She was like, yeah, we're Polly. I'm like, yeah, where Polly? I'm like, the fuck is Polly. I'm thinking Polynesian.

And then, you know, we had a threesome. So I will sometimes go over the house, fuck one or the other. Then eventually the main one fell in love with me. So I was kind of like messing with her more. She catches me fuck her friend again. And it starts problems. But this one day I was in a bar. She's like, yo, I'm getting off work.

Let me come meet you. She meets me. And she's just lit. drunk drunk with doing shots and she calls the scene some girl like comes in between us orders of drinks and I like looked at the girl and she's like oh she reminds you with this person right and I was just like I got to bring this up like I thought we was past that and then she just like slaps all our drinks to the floor and just glass breaks bartender looks at me like oh she got to go I used to go to this bar like every day

It was like two blocks away from I live Sports bar, I just shoot pool there So I take outside And she's like What do you want to fuck that girl I'm like no I'm gonna fuck you You know trying to calm her down

And she's like let's go home then It's fuck So That's what we did Everything started being good But I was doing mad K She did meth

and that's where I guess things went left I just remember rolling a blunt and she just sat on my lap and she was like I don't think I'll shoot you and I was like what you're talking about how are you going to shoot me

and I see she has a gun in her hand and there's one of the guns I find from the safe and I'm like oh this is about to go bad and I'm on K so my brain is like yo, bro, it's about to go bad. Yo, boys, is about to go bad. You know, you have a dead special kid?

I don't know. Your mind just starts talking to each other. I'm like, fuck. Let me take this shit away from run. This harm is like, she's sitting on it. So I'm like, trying to reach. I can't get it. She's like, just, you know.

Say, I won't shoot you. I'm just like, chill. Like, why I got to get shot? But she's just pissing me off. I'm like, you won't. She's like, really? See, I won't again. And I just looked at her and I was like,

you, bah! That bitch just shot the shit out of me. Yo, all I just remember, my ears was ringing. And then I'm okay. My mom's like, yo, you got shot. Shit was crazy. All I know is I just spit on the floor and it was just mad blood and teeth.

and this bitch ran out I don't even know what happens but she definitely ran out the gun's on the floor and I'm bleeding down my mouth shot and I'm just like what the fuck I'm about to do

I grabbed the gun I like take it apart and then I'm like in the sink like trying to see what the fuck's going on with this bullet and that shit's like deep some came out of the back of my head

I'm just bleeding a lot I'm like, what the fuck I'm about to do? Lucky I was on K because I didn't really feel it. It was just mad blood. And it was a lot of blood. So I'm just like, I'm about to sleep this. Because when I looked in the mirror, it wasn't, it didn't look that crazy. A bunch of teeth was gone.

So I go lay down. And then the pillow was just wet. And then the whole pillow soaked with blood. I'm like, oh, this shit is serious. So I just started like stashing the drugs away and the other gun I grab. I like take it apart. I'm like stashing in sneakers, putting it up in the closets. I'm like just trying to get rid of all the legal shit just in case the cops come.

And this is Santa Monica. Santa Monica is like West Village. Someone had to call cops. I told some family members I'm like, yo, I'm about to die. I told my baby mother like, you tell my son I love him, I'm about to die. There's too much blood. I ran out. I don't remember.

Nothing else. But waking up in the hospital, like, three weeks later. Three weeks later you woke up? They put you on a coma? Yeah. You had a death certificate. How bad was your face messed up? Yeah, it was like...

It was just more swollen, but it, like, knocked all my back teeth out. So the bullet went, like, through your... Like, up here, the cheek? Yeah, and, like, up and stuck with my head. I can't believe this girl shot. You can believe you. All because you were hooking up with her friend that she has having a threesome with you. In the beginning, right?

Yeah. Who wouldn't fucking you? That's love for you and drugs. So what happened to this girl? Did they ever catch her? Yo, you don't know what I got? Woke up out of the fucking coma. I didn't even remember her name.

I didn't even remember my last name. I didn't even know my social. I was just like choking on tubes. So she got away with shooting you? Yeah. Wait, to this day she's not been caught? No, they say I shot myself. They think you shot yourself?

Yeah, they even says the wound wasn't self-inflicted, but they said I shot myself. How do you know you didn't just dream this whole thing? There was no girl. I mean, shit. It's in the UCLA, San Mara Press. No, no, I'm saying that, not that you didn't get shot, but that there was no girl, you know? Like what if... No, it was a girl.

Because the cops, they asked me, like, what girl? They seem like a girl running out. And I was like, you know what? Check the hair brush. The hair and the hairbrush. That's her. You know, that's all I could have gave them. So.

And they knew who I was because, like, they did their homework. And he was just, like, ex-con from New York shoots himself in a robbery. Like, they tried to say, like, I was getting robbed. And last minute, I want to kill myself instead of getting robbed. It was like crazy. So when you wake up,

are you handcuffed to the hospital bed? I was like, I pulled this fucking shit out my nose. They put the tube. That shit was going off forever. I was choking. And I was like, yo, I jumped off the bed

and my foot got caught. Boom, my ankle was handcuffs. Because I was going to run out the hospital. And this is because they wanted you on the robbery? Yeah. No, no, the parole warrant. Ah, the parole warrant, okay.

And they found two guns in the house. From the robbery? Did that guy... No, from the shooting. Oh, from the shooting? Yeah, but weren't those stolen from the Airbnb that you robbed? Yeah, but they didn't know that.

Oh, they never figured that out? Nah. The guy never reported the gun stolen? You know, that dude, he reports the gun stolen. I'll have some shit on him. You don't want these problems. All right, so when do they finally release you from the hospital? and where do you go? Oh, they don't. They sent me to jail. I was in LA County.

L.A. County's rough? Yeah. Jungle. Amazon. I said it was rough for them four years upstate. How compare L.A. County to Rikers Island? There's no comparison. That shit is real. Their gang culture is way crazier than ours. It's a zoo. You get grown men screaming. for their life. Like, everyone's in the gang. There's, like, no regular people.

What was the first thing you witnessed there? That you were like, oh, shit, this is a real deal. Like, first night I heard some guys screaming for his life. Like, I know he was getting stabbed up. And I was just like, yeah, about to do my life. I'm thinking, like, I'm about to have to do years here. I'm like, damn, I got to get used to this shit. And then I'm talking, like, to people.

And they're, like, where you're from? Like, New York. They're like, what gang? I'm not in New York. They're like, holy, yes you are, brother. You better pick a side. I'm just saying, what? So I'm like, nah, I'm not banging.

I don't want to do no more gang shit. I've been to get, I was already out the gang for years. Just to start gang life in California again, I was not with it. Did they know you were a Crip from New York, though? You didn't tell them? Why would I? Because Crips is running in, In, like, California, you Crip is a black.

You got to run with the blacks. The Crips and Bloods, they don't, in jail, they don't beef. They're one. They're in the blacks. I'm Spanish. So I have to run, like, the Spanish people. What are the biggest Spanish gangs in the L.A. County Jail? The only Spanish gang, and they run the whole jail, Sireños.

And who are the Sareños? Like, Mexican Mafia. And Mexican? If you're Spanish, you're Sireno. And they're popular in the L.A. County Jail. Oh, yeah. If there's 200 in the dorm, they're like 150.

Now, were you planning on staying there for long? Because you just had to get extradited back. I didn't know if New York was going to come pick me up. It took them 28 days. You were there for almost a month. Yeah, if I was there over a month, I would have to stay. So do you end up joining the Serenios? Yeah.

And how does that process work, like, from the time they come up to you? The guy explained it to me, he's like, yo, so when you go to your next spot, and intake, he's like, either white people or Spanish people get to approach you. Blacks obviously, ain't because you're not black. I don't know black.

Unless I was, like, blood or Crip, and I was, like, heavy into that, then I would probably join the blacks. I wasn't about to join the Crips again after all I'd done for them. I ran with Sirenos. I'm like, my Spanish people. I'm going to chill with my Spanish people.

So he's like, yo, the next dorm you go to, just be like, Puerto Rican, you want to run with the Sarenos, and then from there on, they'll tell you what to do. So once I went into the dorm, you wait, long behold, Spanish people came up to me, they said, yo, you're Spanish. I'm like, yeah, they start speaking to me Spanish,

or respond. And then they're like, yo, what's your handle? I'm like, rain. But I wanted, I was like, I'm gonna go about something else. I'm like, call me double R. You know? And he's at, all right, so since you're not in, like, a native street, Spanish gang, you're like a resident. Just, like, you're only in this gang in jail.

So when about, like, meet other Spanish serenios, I got to be like, yo, I'm double law resident, serenios, blah, blah, blah. I'm not going to say the rest, you know. But you didn't have to be a serenio for that long because you got transported back to New York. Yeah, but I'm also looking into gun charges. I don't know what I'm about to do. I'm about to do what I have to do to fit in, you know? What happens to those gun charges? I don't know.

I know they made me sign like a paper. If I ever go back to L.A. County, I got to go fight those charges when I was getting extradited. Oh, so they let him slide? No, New York trumps at all. Like, my main shit, I'm property in New York. I was parole. Amazon presents Jeff versus Taco Truck Salsa. Whether it's Verde, Roja, or the Or.

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What was that like? Lit. All right. Tell us. So I just got shot in the face, so I was getting oxycodones, like, 20 milligrams. So I was just always mad high. And I just remember right before I board the plane, I told the car, like, yo, can I take my medication? My face first?

He said, hell, yeah. He's like, do me the pills. Something like that. And I really gelled, so I, like, do the whole bottle. wrapped it up boof some and I'm like yo fuck I'm about to die in this plane I took like 10

I'm an overdose of this plane this is gonna be a nice ride let's see what happens I don't I slept the whole plane ride I remember waking up in New York the guy's like yo what you want to eat before you go

fucking back to Rikers Island I'm like oh shit I'm here you boofed it right in front of them on the plane no they wasn't really watching me I was like shackled but yeah

you shoved like a knife from LA County jail like I was ready wait when you're extradited on a commercial plane

do you go through normal security you don't go through TSA your handcuff how are you gonna go through metal detectors and shit

I didn't think of that and like those cops have guns like if I try to run they shoot with me respectfully do they drive you

right onto the tarmac yeah do people give you weird looks yeah I look like some ill

Columbine dude You had like blonde hair, blue streaks, orange jumpsuit. Everyone's like, oh, shit. Yeah, the joke is here. No, yeah. They was scared of death. Like, people were, like, trying to move their seats.

You look like some ill terrorists, you know? What happens when you get back? They put you in Rikers out. And how long were you at Rikers for before you got to see a judge? Two weeks. And does the judge let you out? Yeah. Because it was just a probation violation.

And what happens? Way back into parole. And what happens? I finished it. Perfectly. It went on with life. You didn't get the need to run again? Nah.

You were over that? It was a one and done? I couldn't speak for like a year. Anyway, my mouth was where I shut. All my food was like, period. I was just like home. Yeah, what did you do for food? Fucking sip.

You know, blended Burger King, everything blended. Was your jaw broken? Nah, but it was just wired from surgery. So when you were at Rikers and Neiman, L.A. County, did they have to make you special meals? Yeah. And they accommodated you with that? Yeah. And did any of the inmates try to mess with you because you were injured? No, I was in a medical dorm.

Okay. So you had an easier time? Yeah. It was just high on drugs. It went by. So how do you start to turn your... your life around when you get back on parole and change things oh man I just did the drug programs do all the programs everything right it's focused on my art and me Hamid kept me on a good

path what is that path what are you doing now just living my best life you know Lake George you got a movie about it movie about your whole story yeah well it you know, based on true events. We ain't going to tell them everything. Do you still do art now? Yeah. Is that your full-time gig? Yeah.

And what about your child? He's 18. He's 8. How old are you now? 35. You're 35? Are you in his life a lot? Yeah, I'm my best friend.

What does he do now? Is he going to college? Yeah, he works at Target. So you don't want the same path for him anymore? Oh, no. You've changed your first. He just had a good job. He didn't grow up in the hood.

He's well off. He's a good kid. I'm proud, proud dad. Being from the hood and having a hood son, it's kind of like, you're a failure. I can't believe I wanted that at one point. You know what I? Thinking about it, I was like, damn, yeah,

I was a fucking brainwatch idiot. What are some of the lessons you've learned throughout your journey? Don't treat women bad. And just be truthful, be real, you know? You can't get away with shit forever. Eventually everything gets, you eventually get caught, you know? Being true and right will always, like, succeed, you know what I mean? What do you want for the future?

I need that artist's loft. It'll come. So I could, like, really do big paintings and chill. Do you think art keeps you out of trouble now? Yeah, it makes me stay inside and just paint, just bug out. I don't think about the streets. And all the shit I've done, kind of like a legend in the streets now, you know? So I don't really need to be there.

I walk through the hood to see people sometimes, and it's just like, Yo, Ray! I'm known in the hood, but I don't really like that recognition. But, you know, it don't bother me. Do you stay in touch with your mom? Yeah, I love my mom. I got a house of Florida from art. She lives there full time now?

Yeah, she's retired. So she's got to see you grow up and do the right thing? Yeah. What about your dad? Is he still in prison? Now, he died when I came out of prison. I don't really care. Can't live forever.

Where do you see the next five years going for you? I'm going to get this artist's love. probably a big distributions and pick up Lake George like Hulu on Netflix and then we'll think about the next movie you know

just keep killing it with the art keep chilling with the hose I guess you haven't learned your lesson about one little I'll keep it real with these bitches now I tell them exactly what's happening like this is how I'm living this is how it's gonna be

Rame go get yourself a nice woman a nice girlfriend You know. Treat her right. Any nice women When y'all see this, holl at me. Well,

Rame, I appreciate you coming on the show, man. Yeah, I appreciate being on the show, bro. Yeah, I wish you the best of luck

with the movie and everything you got going. Thank you, you, you got to send some of your art to the studio. Yo, I actually meant to bring a painting

and I, like, forgot. Rookie mistake, man. Nah, man, because one of my bitches was holding on to it. You can't play someone else, man.

You got to hold yourself accountable, you know? But send it over the studio. Put it up. Nah, I got you. I appreciate you, brother.