Locked In with Ian Bick - Expelled, Addicted & Struggling – My Teenage Years Gone Wrong | Patrick Stork

Episode Date: March 4, 2025

Patrick Stork shares the struggles of his teenage years, from getting expelled from school to battling addiction and making life-altering mistakes. This is a real and honest story about the challenges of youth, the consequences of bad decisions, and the journey to turning life around. #ExpelledFromSchool #TeenageStruggles #AddictionRecovery #YouthChallenges #OvercomingAddiction #RealLifeStory #SecondChances #lifelessons Connect with Patrick Stork: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pstork47?igsh=eG9oMXJ1N2xjYjAy Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Presented by Tyson 2.0 & Wooooo Energy: https://tyson20.com/ https://woooooenergy.com/ Buy Merch: https://convictclothing.net/collections/convict-clothing-x-ian-bick Timestamps: 00:00:00 Introduction to Patrick and His YouTube Channel 00:05:00 Childhood Memories and Family Background 00:07:30 Growing Up Between Lower and Middle Class in LA 00:11:42 Growing Up with Little Supervision 00:15:52 High School Misadventures and Consequences 00:19:59 Overcoming High School Challenges and Graduation Motivation 00:23:51 Navigating Job Instability and Unconventional Opportunities 00:28:01 First Encounter with Law Enforcement 00:32:09 Jail Release and Stick Shift Dilemma 00:36:04 Life After Rehab: Challenges and Lessons 00:40:07 Teenage Challenges and Legal Troubles 00:44:01 The Consequences of Middleman Deals 00:48:04 The Life of a Middleman: Profits and Risks 00:52:07 Breaking the Cycle: Escaping a Life of Crime and Ruts 00:56:08 Relatable Podcast Stories and Influences 01:00:01 Overcoming the Drug Dealer Dream Powered by: Just Media House : https://www.justmediahouse.com/ Creative direction, design, assets, support by FWRD: https://www.fwrd.co Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The NBA playoffs are here, and now you can trade every game on Kalshi. You can also trade on who wins each series, the conference finals, and the championship. San Antonio is currently trading at 22% to win it all, meaning a $100 trade pays out $455 if they take the title. On Kalshi, you're trading against other people in a live market, no house, no odds makers. And as the odds move, you can buy in or out any time throughout the post season. For a limited time, download the Kalshi app and use code hoops to get $10 when you trade $10. KLSHI, Kalshi, trade on anything. The NBA playoffs are here, and now you can trade every game on Cali.

You can also trade on who wins each series, the conference finals, and the championship. San Antonio is currently trading at 22% to win it all, meaning a $100 trade pays out $455 if they take the title. On Calci, you're trading against other people in a live market, no house, no odds makers. And as the odds move, you can buy in or out any time throughout the post season. For a limited time, download the Calci app and use code hoops to get $10 when you trade $10. KLSHI, Calci, Trade on Anything. The NBA playoffs are here, and now you can trade every game on Kalshi. You can also trade on who wins each series, the conference finals, and the championship.

San Antonio is currently trading at 22% to win it all, meaning a $100 trade pays out 455 if they take the title. On Kalshi, you're trading against other people in a live market, no house, no odds makers. And as the odds move, you can buy in or out any time throughout the post season. For a limited time, download the Kalshi app and use code hoops to get $10 when you trade $10. KLSHI, Kalshi, trade on anything. Patrick, welcome to Locked in, man. Glad we can make this happen. I'm glad to be here, man.

I'm grateful to be here. Yeah, thanks for supporting the show, too. I know you're an avid listener. And you have your own YouTube channel. Definitely plug that in, too. Yeah, it's strictly business. Literally, all you've got to look up is strictly business, exactly how it sounds.

And it's just a lot of my crazy stories that on the surface, they don't really sound believable, but I got all the receipts. I got all the proof, like, you'll see. You'll see. Yeah, and we'll have that, the link to it in the description of this episode too. And Artie, you saw, I brought some paperwork with me.

Like, I ain't, like, you know. But the crazy thing is, is I can remember when Vice did a little thing on you. The 10-minute video. It was like 12 minutes or something, and it was all about, And the part I specifically remember is putting the jungle juice in the red Gatorade bottles. Bro, that's something I would have done a million times, dude. So you're like an OG fan of the show.

I don't want to call myself like a fraudster per se, but it's like something, that's like an idea I would have had to be like get over on like, you know, just to like help the night continue to go and not get shut down or whatever, which was a baller move on your part, but I just got to say. Yeah, and I know you brought your paperwork. here today. It's always funny when the guests bring paperwork, but I respect it, man. I respect it. I ain't got no weirdo charges, man. Like, I just want to put it out there, you know, like, so. But before we get into something, I want to give you, is this cool? Yeah, of course. Of course, brother. Yeah, the floor is yours. You, you get into it. Thank you, man. This is very kind to you. So right there, that's a book that was written by Kevin Weeks, who was the bodyguard for Whitey Bulger.

Oh, wow. Yeah, I've heard the name. before. Yeah. He was the guy that turned witness at the very end, but before that he was like Whitey Bolcher's like right hand man. He was the big guy. This is like the OG book right here. Yeah, straight up. You read this? I read most of it. So you're giving it to me before you even

finished it? It was a minute ago. And then right there, bro. What is this? This is a taste to L.A. for you to take back to the East Coast with you. That's a Kobe Brian X. Dodgers jersey. Wow, bro. It's got the eight on the front, the

24 on the back. That's awesome, man. And I'm going to give you full disclosure. I wore it one time. One time, and I bought it in 2020. And I bought it when the Dodgers and the Lakers both won in 2020. The Dodgers won the World Series and the Lakers won the championship or whatever. Thank you so much, man.

I figured because you have that, like, your office with all this stuff. I figured, like, hang it up on the wall, bro. You know, it's just been sitting in my closet. it. Like, I'm not a jersey guy. Like, it would take me, like, wearing a, uh, like a jacket or something to do it. So it'd be better to just hang it somewhere. Yeah, I'm not a jersey wearing guy either. I just put it on the wall. I love it. I love it on the wall. Or I'll wear like a long sleeve shirt underneath like a basketball jersey or something. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe. Oh, what about like cussing and stuff? Yeah, you could cussing. No, you're good, brother. Yeah. So we're in L.A. at Spotify right now.

Shout out to Spotify for- Shout out Spotify. Yeah, letting them, uh, letting us use their studio. For sure. Just try not to rock in the chairs. You want to come as close as you can because the audience gets mad when the sound goes in and out. So we got to make sure they're all happy. Gotcha.

Yeah, you're perfect there. These chairs, the only downside to being out here is it's these rocking chairs. Yeah, I know. You look all comfortable in your and you're laid back, whatever those other chairs are called.

If you're ever in New York, you've got to come check it out. Dude, I'm down, man. All my family's on the East Coast. Oh, they are? I don't have any blood. That's what I was trying to tell you. I don't have any blood relatives

over on these, on the West Coast, even though I was born here, all my family, dude, my mom, of all places in Philadelphia, guess where my mom was born? Where? Think about the skid row of the East Coast. Kensington. Oh, she was born in Kensington? My mom was born in Kensington.

Wait, so did you grow up in Pennsylvania? No. Where do you grow up? L.A. L.A. So she moved to California just on her own, and then my dad lived in Detroit. he moved to California on his own and then they met over here. But all like my extended family,

all on the East Coast from Virginia to Jersey to Philadelphia to like just like everywhere like up and down that area. Do you have any siblings? I have one sibling. I have a brother who is three years older than me. Okay. Were you guys close growing up? Yes, for sure.

I would not have the same, like, sense of humor and all that stuff, like, without him for sure. Like, we, we would, you know, shoot army men with airsoft guns in the backyard and light stuff on fire and, like, the whole, you know, the whole thing. You know what I just bought for the studio, the Nerf guns, like with the rubber balls? I bought three of them on Amazon's Prime Day or Cyberdead. It's funny you bring that up because at one point I was working at an elementary school, and there were all these. these little kids because I would work with like the elementary schoolers and I was it was around Christmas time around this time and I was saying like what do you want for Christmas? And they were saying I want an iPhone. I want a hoverboard. And I thought to myself, whatever happened to a Nerf gun?

Like what happened to a Nerf football? Like or something like anything. I loved Airsoft growing up. We would dress in gilly suits run through the woods, shoot at each other. We used to we used to like pretend to play Airsoft and get the people to like run. and hide, and then we would just, like, jack all their stuff. Yeah, the only downside of Aerosoft is everyone would lie and say they didn't get hit, whereas paintball, the paint's actually on you. Airsoft, there's no way to prove whether you got hit or not. I've gone to a couple places, like, professional places, and then, like, me and, like, my

homies, we would just try to shoot the refs. That's funny. It is what it is. Not always, but, you know, when they say, you're out, and then it's like, blah, blah, blah. What do your parents do for work? So my dad worked for... USA Today, the newspaper. And my mom has always worked with special needs kids as a teacher's assistant, my whole life.

And she retired in 2021, I think. So she's been retired since then. But like, so she didn't have a specific area. So like one day she'd be in Compton. One day she'd be in San Pedro. Like anywhere, because the LA, the L.A. the LA Unified School District is huge. It's one of the biggest districts in the United,

I don't know about the United States, but it's a really big district. So she liked going to like this school for three days, then that school for three days. She didn't really want to be like dedicated to one school because she liked meeting like new faces and stuff like that. So I've always had a super mad appreciation for like the kids that are in that scenario. and stuff, you know, like with the learning disabilities and all that stuff.

So I've been very compassionate towards them and just kind of understanding, you know. Like I would never put someone like that down, you know. How would you say you guys grow up financially? Definitely not upper middle class. Definitely not even. I would say between lower class and middle class. Like we grew up in the sense that like, like, we had shitty things, but it was nice to have shitty things because you could always just go get another one.

Whereas of these people that spend all this money on stuff, when they lose it, they lose their fucking mind. And they're like, what do I do? I don't know. And stuff. So, like, we, my dad worked a lot. Like, I didn't see him a whole lot because he actually used to work in this area. Oh, wow. But he would have to make that commute, like, all the time from where I lived in, like, L.A. So, yeah, like, we didn't, we didn't, we didn't really need for much, really, I guess. But at the same time, we didn't have everything, too. Did you like growing up in L.A.?

Like, did you like going to the schools here, the people? Loved it. The craziest thing, man, is, like, where I went to school at was right next to Compton. And the demographic, I was one of, like, the five white. kids there. Everybody else was either Hispanic or African American, which like, that was a cool lesson for me to just understand that everybody's the same, you know? It was like an early lesson on that for me, but also, yeah, like, I blanked out on the question. No, just what life was like growing up in L.A. So in L.A., man, like, I can remember being a kid.

I'll tell you a funny story real quick. So I can remember being, me and my brother always shared a room. Never had, I didn't have my own room until I was in middle school. So we shared a room. So one night I hear this noise and it's like, and I'm young, like, young, young. So I'm thinking, oh my God, it's Santa. And that, like within that day, L.A. Unified would give us this shit called reindeer food, Which you should never feed to any animal at all.

It's like glitter and like sand. It's the horror is the worst thing. But we like put it out and in my mind I'm like, Santa's, Santa's look, Santa's here, Santa's here. But my brother, three years older than me, he kind of knows that ain't Santa. So finally, all of a sudden I hear, this is the police. Put your hands outside the vehicle. So like I had a lot of that growing up, like a lot of gunshots having. to pretend it's Fourth of July type shit, like,

because I didn't grow up in a great part of L.A. until I moved. How did you? Yeah, go on. Once I moved, I got into an area that I've never been like a suburban person ever. I've always been like in the city. But when I moved to go to middle school, that was when I like made friends and was able to have somewhat of a social life.

Because before that, when I was living kind of more in the hood, like it was go to school go home that's it how would you say um people would describe you at what age or in high school and middle school just as a kid you know hustler hustler I always I was always trying to cook something up always trying to cook something up like and I didn't have a problem with everybody knowing like yeah call him if you need something call him and if he can't get it he knows somebody to call to get it like I just kind of like fail into that role and... You're talking drugs.

Yes. And unfortunately, it's like I played right into it, you know? Like, but even before I smoked weed, people were like, he's a stoner. Like, so like, I never had a chance. Like, or I had a chance, but you get what I'm saying. Yeah. So... What did your parents think about that?

Do they know you? No, honestly, my parents didn't give a shit, man. Like, I don't know if it has to do with them being from the East Coast. Like, like, for example, they didn't know that curfew was. a thing. So like I'd be out bro and I was in middle school and I was having girls spend the night at my house. I was staying out till one, two, three o'clock in the morning on a school night. Like they just didn't really like lack of supervision is a big constant in my life. So it was what it was and like but they always had my

back at the end of the day. I'm just someone who like I'm much more like my dad Dad and my brother is much more like my mom. Because my dad was like, you know, he was living in Arizona. He was hustling between the border. And we just had a conversation about it earlier today about like the kind of stuff that he would do and talking about black beauties and all this shit, like throwing it way back, you know.

So I feel like I got that kind of hustle motivation from him maybe. I don't know. Were you closer to your mom or your dad growing up? I mean, my dad wasn't really around. much so it's like when my dad was around it was cool because I was a sports kid bro like I played basketball soccer baseball to the point where like I would have to leave a soccer game to go to a basketball game and then have to leave that basketball game to go to a baseball game like I was just like sports sports sports sports then I started skateboarding and then no more sports

you like skateboarding oh man yeah my first board was a World Industries deck, like way back, like way back in the day. But yeah, that kind of like, I kind of chose skateboarding over sports and stuff like that. Plus, I kept getting injured and like breaking my arm and stuff like that. I broke this arm twice, broke this arm once. And here you are with broken bones again. Exactly. And like every time I'd get a new board, like within like five, I had to start buying boards

that came with a warranty that they wouldn't snap within 30 days because I'd buy a new board and two days later, I'd snap it. Did you have dreams, goals, aspirations, and do you want to go to college when you're a kid? I, it's hard to explain. I did, and I did, and I didn't. Because I went to three different high schools, and they all funnel into the same city college.

And I just kind of wasn't trying to be surrounded by them because I just didn't feel, And this could be me tripping, but I just didn't feel like I would have a good chance at like really applying myself when I'm in a whole room surrounded by multiple different people that I know that are not like the greatest people that they know me from my reputation. So they assume that that's how I'm going to be when in reality like I'm trying to learn. You know, I'm trying to like I went to LBCC, Long Beach City College. and I took psychology and I got like an A plus. So I'm not stupid. I know that.

Why do you go to so many high schools? I got kicked out. For what? You ready for this one? Give it to us. I got expelled for having sex at school. Well, you have to tell us a story. I know.

It's a story that depending on who you are, like so many people, I've heard of you. I hate that. That's what you're known for. I hate that. I've heard of you. So basically, like, you want the whole rundown? I want the whole shabang. The cat, caboodle, everything, you know?

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Kalshi, trade on anything. Got you. So, me and this girl, like, we kind of got together during, like, the end of middle school. So that, like, kind of went on to the beginning of high school. And one night there's a football game. I barely made it through ninth grade. Like, they were trying to. trying to kick me out. Like, ninth grade, like I, man, Saturday. Did you guys have Saturday school? No. Bro, they would make you. They might have, but I didn't, yeah. Bro, they made you go to school on a Saturday if you fucked up that bad. And like, that was happening to me in middle school, but high school as well. But we go, we go to, like, we're like, oh, it's the first football game of the year. So you know how

football, I don't know how it is, but football starts in the beginning. Over here, football starts in, like, the very beginning of the year during the summer is when they practice and stuff like that. So we're like, like all my friends were kind of like playing football and stuff. But I had summer school. I've gone to summer school every summer since like sixth grade, you know? So I wasn't exactly trying to end summer school and then go practice football, you know. So we go to see the football game. But before that, we go and we decided to pick up some Xanax bars.

and we get the Xanax bars and we're going and it's me, my girl, her friend, and then my homie who like, you'll hear from him again, his name's Max, and he was like my right-hand man, you know. So we get to the school and we're sitting on this like bench that's inside the quad. And my, my homie left to go meet up with like the other people that were already at the game. me and my girl stayed behind and her friend went to the bathroom and her last words were

don't go anywhere so as soon literally as soon as she closes that door for the bathroom we start hooking up on the bench and then she's like let's go somewhere and I'm like okay like I'm not gonna I'm not trying

to like mess that up I had a place that I wanted to go because we have a at West High there's a building that has three stories and it's very shadowed. It's very hard to see. But my girl, I'm tired of walking. Can't we just go right here?

And of course, I'm not going to be like, no. You know what I mean? So I laid my jacket down and, you know, we started getting at it. And all of a sudden I hear, hey, aye, aye. And I look over, and it's not a security guard. It's the, Cross-country coach that also taught science in ninth grade that he hated me, bro.

He kicked me out of his class so many times. It's not even funny. He's the worst, worst possible person for me and my girl were in the same class and had him. So he was very familiar with us. So he kind of like grabs us both by the arm. And he like, like, you know, we're all fucked up on Xanax, you know. So like we're not exactly walking straight. So he like takes us and he doesn't know what to.

do with us and then he takes us to the office and I know that my girl's dad's going to be coming and he fucking hated me bro I could have had a 4.0 a four ride to like some really nice college he would have still hated the shit out of me you know so he came in all aggressive like where's he at and like me like I don't know if you've ever done Xanax but like I was very aggressive as well so I was like yo where's he at let's go like I'm not like whatever like you want to do this let's do it. And then they calmed him down and stuff. Like, I was taller than that dude at that point, you know?

So first they say, don't come to school on Monday. I'm like, okay. Then they say, don't come to school on Tuesday. I'm like, okay. Then they say don't come to school for the rest of the week. I'm like, all right. Then at the end of that week, they say, oh, yeah, you're expelled. You're going to this different school.

And me and my girl had to go to separate school. They wouldn't allow us to go to the same school. So she got sent to one, I got sent to another. And the way that it works is if you stay at the school they kick you out to for the rest of the year, you're allowed to come back to the school that kicked you out. But the school that I got sent to, like, it was, it made me appreciate the school I came from and I hated that school. So, like, I just, it was just like, I would tell my counselor like, yeah,

I'm seriously going to walk down the hall and I'm just going to beat the shit out of somebody to get kicked out of here. Like, I don't want to be here. And I think it was me saying that I wanted to light the football field on fire. That kind of, it was, I'm not a pyromaniac or anything like that,

but that seemed to get some attention to the point where after that, like, I had to leave the district and I had to go to a different school in a totally different district, which was more like a, fast times at Ridgemont High type school where you could leave you could leave whenever you want

like there was so much freedom there and that was where I ended up staying and graduating and it was not easy bro. It was not easy. I went to night school. I had to take like I thought school was a joke man like I only passed

like PE so by the time I got to that school they were like you're missing like 90 credits and you have like not that much time to make them up. So I was doing zero period. I read Lord of the Flies as a senior. I read Romeo and Juliet as a senior.

Like I had to do all these packets. Like I did biology and I never touched a test two. You know what I'm saying? Like I was just trying to get my credits back. And I passed high school by less than 1%. But I passed. And the motivation behind that was in middle school, everybody would laugh at me, bro.

everybody would laugh at me at the thought of me graduating high school. It was a joke that I would graduate high school. So people would say, someone who never smoked a day in their life would say, if Stork graduate, people call me Stork for my last name. You can call me that if you want. I don't care. Great last name. Yeah. It's my literal last name.

I like it. Patrick Stork. Yeah, they used to always say, oh, you serve the sacks like you serve the stork serves babies or something like that, you know. so they would just constantly be like he's never going to graduate and i use that as like motivation to like graduate you know like i thought about all these people snickering at me and saying all this shit that they would never do if i graduated and of course what do you think happened when i graduated none of those fools said did what they said they were going to do if i graduated but either way i got my diploma and that's all that matters at the end of the or well not all that

matters, but it was important to me to get my diploma after years of people laughing at the thought of me having one. What'd you end up doing after high school? So after high school, after high school, honestly, I kind of just kicked it, man, because like I was telling you about the whole college thing, like, I knew that if I showed up, I mean, this could be my own stinking thinking or whatever you want to call it, but like I just didn't feel like I would be able to really like learn and plus it was like english and math and stuff like not stuff i'm really like psychology i got down with i loved psychology like but the prerequisites or whatever they're called like i just i don't know i just kind of chilled and i just kind of continued to do what i had been doing

for the past 10 years or no not 10 years um actually probably close to 10 years actually i started selling weed when i was 12 so yeah so yeah so you went back into that after i kind of never stopped like i gave i i decided to give all my customers to someone else because i didn't want to be a part of it but kind of i dude i've changed my number like five times it doesn't matter they'll find if someone wants to find you they'll find you and sometimes it's hard to turn down an opportunity where like if i make a phone call, I make $2,000, like, and I don't even have to go anywhere. Like, it's kind of hard to turn that down.

But I feel like it also fucked up my way of thinking about, like, earning money because I had money all, like, that was like, like some people, they want to buy cars, they want to buy this, they want to buy designer clothes, whatever. I just liked having money that I could buy stuff for me and my friends and not have to worry about the receipt, not having to worry about the change. Like, it was just always like, what do you want? want what do you want what do you want i got you like you know not that i was some nino brown guy that was giving out turkeys on thanksgiving or some shit like that you know but um yeah had you

ever worked a regular job up up until that point bro i've worked so many jobs dude it's not even funny like but the thing is is they don't really give me a chance dude like and i don't mean to like throw that at like the working world or anything but like i'll give you an example i got a job at Pinkberry. And I'm on the schedule, everything. I go. I work at Pinkberry. And the one shift I'm working there for four hours,

I run into at least five different people that I know, just because I know a lot of people. And when that four-hour shift was done in my locker was $60 in a note telling me not to come back. after one shift. Why, because you knew everyone coming in? I don't know what it was. They didn't even explain to me. They just were like, sorry.

They didn't even say sorry, actually. They just were like 60 bucks, don't come back. And that was it. I've worked at Jamba Juice. I've worked at CSC, who are like the security guards wearing yellow at like all the football games and like raves and music festivals and stuff. I've done, I've been a bud tender at like, three different dispensaries. I've worked for three different delivery weed services.

So, like, I have had jobs, but unfortunately, it's, like, right before I pass that probationary period where you start to get, like, benefits and stuff, something always happens where they'll get me on, like, day, like, 59 or something like that. Or, no, day night or day 89, you know? Like, it's like, I'm like right there and they're like, sorry. So. How's that make you feel? I mean, I kind of, the way it went down was kind of shady because I was trying to help somebody who was trying to, like, better their lives and like as far as like getting off of a certain drug.

And that was the dude who kind of like, he could have had my back, but instead he chose to have the company's back and kind of be like, don't. hire him. He's just going to fucking nod out at work and blah, blah, blah. And then they gave me my last check. And then after that, dude, I went on. I took that check and I was, man, it was not a great. I mean, it was cool, I guess, for me, but like, not for my safety. So, yeah. So how do you end up getting into trouble after high school? Bro, I'll tell you the first time that I, ever had a run-in with like and it's actually kind of a serious running so and how old are you too I was in seventh grade seventh grade so we were in a class and this will throw it back we're in a class that we were learning how to type we had to bring a floppy disk to school that is a throwback

so I'm saying so while we're there there was a kid it's weird because I was the new kid I didn't I didn't know anybody at that school. Didn't know a single person at that school when I went there. But there were people that did know the people that they were more on the outside than, like, I was accepted easier than people who like had known these other people for like years or whatever, you know. But basically this dude, I don't know how, but he got credit card numbers. And everybody was afraid to like put it in and stuff. So I was like, fuck it, I'll do it. So I went on this, like, I, like, went on the skateboarding website and I still remember I ordered a skateboard,

a deck and I ordered a pair of shoes and those shits actually came to my house but I was smart enough to not use my real name. So all of a sudden I get called up into the office

and there's a fucking detective there and they're saying we saw that this package got because the package came to my house and I was just I didn't accept it because like I just I just knew something was off with it. So I was like, I didn't accept it. But they said we did a radius check to see if anyone has this name and we can't find

anybody with this name. Why would it go to your house? And I was like, I don't know. And like somehow I was able to slip my way out of that. But that was my first run in with like some actual like law enforcement, I guess you could say. Not the last for sure. But that's the first one.

When was the first time you actually? got hit like on your record. Like arrested? Yeah. Yeah. So I was 22. And, man, this is a story for sure, too. So my homie, I backed him up to go get a Noss tank. And it was a bright neon orange Noss tank. So, like, obviously, you can kind of assume that's your name for a car. You know what I mean? Yeah. And so we go, we get it, we get it, and it's just me and my homie. And we're like going to smart and final because we want to get balloons, because we want to, you know, fill up the balloons. Fill up my balloon, fool.

I don't know if you've ever heard that. Food's gone wild thing. But so we go there. And on the way, my homie who's driving, there's a guy riding a beach strand cruiser. And he's going back and forth, back and forth. And my homie goes, get the fuck out of the street. and that guy was like tatted and buff and he followed us to smart and final

and he was like I didn't say anything but like I still had my homies back or whatever and he was like yo you got something to say I'll fuck you up and I didn't know this until I was in the interrogation room of the cop saying you're lucky your friend didn't fight that guy because he would have beat his ass

like they were like literally saying that but they pulled this over they didn't use the siren or anything so all of a sudden I turned around and there's like 10 cop cars behind us like at least six six to 10 cop cars behind us and all I had on me was in you know how jeans have that oh shit um you know how jeans have that little pocket yeah I had one Xanax bar in there and they got me for possession without prescription and they took me to jail for that and I was in jail my homie's like he's like like crying all right

Not crying, but he's kind of like losing it. Like, kind of like, I'm so sorry, bro. I'm so sorry. I was like, dude, I got a misdemeanor. Like, you're the one. When they checked his wallet, he already had a ticket for reckless driving. So I was like, bro, like, they already, they just pulled us over for reckless driving. Like, you're probably more fuck than I am, to be real.

So I just, I just didn't want him to worry about it. You know what I mean? Like, I knew I was going to get out. But get this. That happened on Martin Luther King Jr. day. So if we didn't get out that night, we weren't going to get out until Tuesday. And this was Friday. So we're like waiting in there, waiting in there.

And then all of a sudden, the lights turn off. And I was like, oh, shit. You know what I mean? And like, I'm like, guard, guard. Like, I'm knocking on the, like, they at least put me and my homie in one of those, like, it kind of looks like what you have at your office, except there was two tables. instead of one. I don't know if it's a drunk tank or whatever,

but it could easily fit at least four people in just this one kind of big cell. So I had to get their attention. And I finally get the guy's attention and he scans my wristband. And he goes, oh, you guys were supposed to get released hours ago. I was like, really, bro, really? And I also ran into a homie I went to high school with in jail.

Just going by myself. Like I didn't go into like population or like GP or anything. Like it was like a city jail or something. You know what I mean? Like a station. It wasn't exactly. I didn't go to L.A. County. That's for goddamn sure.

You know, like. So, yeah. They finally let us go. and I just remember the crazy thing is we both ran back to this dude's car because he was telling me I don't know how to drive a stick shift

I'll be real I don't know how to drive a stick shift and his car was a stick shift so he was trying to explain to me in the jail cell you got to do this then he was trying to teach me how to drive stick

while we were locked up or I don't want to say locked up but while we were in like in jail and I was like man I hope this full gets out because I am not going to be able to drive his car at all. And fortunately he did get out and like he had money and stuff. So like he never really was in that much of a thing. I had a public defender and all that shit. I've never not had a public defender.

You've always had a public defender. Always. You'll see it on my paperwork. Is that because you can't afford it or because you just preferred that or? It didn't seem necessary. It didn't seem necessary for what I was dealing with. I didn't feel like why should I pay somebody a couple grand to like tell me what I already know. And there's some people who pay 40, they pay fucking tens of thousands of dollars just for the lawyer to tell them, oh yeah, you're fucked, you know? So that's very true. Yeah. So like I was just like, you know what? I'll go with the public defender, see what happens. Like I don't have, it's a misdemeanor. So I was on, oh, wait, no, probation came later. I just got off probation, actually. For something different? Yeah. What was that for?

DUI. Oh, you got a DUI? Yeah. But no jail time for that. A little bit of jail time for that. Yeah, a little bit of jail time. It actually worked towards my time served or whatever, because I was in jail for like, only like two days. Okay. So, you know.

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I feel like I'm jumping all over the place. I want to go chronologically because I went to rehab before that time. Like when I was like 15, when I got kicked out of school, I went to my first rehab. Okay. When I was 15. And I just feel like being 15 is too young to try to like get your sobriety together and all that. Like your freshman or like a junior or a sophomore in high school. Some people can do it.

I'm not saying it's impossible. But I just feel like that's kind of a hard time to like try to get somebody to get sober when you're like 15 and you're trying to like, I mean, I had been experimenting since I was in seventh grade or whatever. but, like, you know, it goes down like that sometimes how, like, 15, 16, people start, like, kind of getting into trouble or whatever the case may be. So early 20s now, you're done with that, the Xanax situation? Getting kicked out? Yeah, and you go back to rehab. So I did six months out of outpatient rehab for that.

Okay. And literally the day I got out, like, people were waiting for me to get out to smoke me out because I never want like I was always the person to like link people up and I didn't want anything in return so like I feel like that helped me out in the sense that people were like yo like this full always treated me well so like if I have an ounce of weed like I want to smoke it with him like he's been having to smoke cigarettes this whole time that all of us are passing the blund around or whatever like that so like I've Like, not to say I earned it or anything, but there was just people that were like,

yo, I got you. I got you. I got you. But, like, I remember that first day that I got out, that I woke up early and I just, like, started getting after it. And I don't remember the end of the night. So. What happens after rehab?

Which one? The second one. The second one. Okay. So after the second rehab, bro, like, the crazy thing is, and, like, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't outstep or anything, but basically, like, because I went to rehab literally, like, I, like, you know, COVID started what? 20, yeah, March.

March 2020. I went to rehab June of 2020. And this is your early 20s, right? Yes. And this is an inpatient rehab. So you can't leave. So our commissary was walking to the dollar tree once a week. Oh, you guys got a commissary?

Kind of, like we had to, we were able to buy as many snacks, bro. Like, I've made spreads. I've made, like, my homie used to make orange chicken and he would use the chichirones and like the little sun-kissed orange like drink thing and stuff and whatever. Was that good?

It wasn't bad, but it just sucked for him because someone came in at the same time and they were like, yo, we just ordered Wingstop, you want one? And I was like, real world food! And like, I took advantage of that for sure. So, yeah, real quick, or my backup.

over there, but I got a letter written for me by the rehab of how I conducted myself in rehab. But you can check that out later or something like that. You don't got to read it now. But it just says, like, he's an exemplary person and he's done everything right and all this stuff, which, like, I did. I wasn't doing anything wrong. But I always had to get a walkie-talkie. And I was the person that was between all the counselors and the clients.

So if the counselors needed to see somebody, they would be like, hey, go get blah, blah, blah. And like, so I kind of had rain of being able to walk around from like house to house and find somebody or just chill there and like watch TV or something like that. Like I could move around a lot more because I could go places that other people couldn't. And I didn't even want to do that. When I saw the paper and it said all the responsibilities, I was like, I don't want to do that. Like, hell no. But somebody saw me and they saw how like,

when I would talk to people, I would talk like this. Like, it was very hard for me to make eye contact for, like, a really long time in my life. Like, you probably have noticed it already that, like, I don't really. I try, but sometimes I look away or, you know, whatever, like that. So. Did that rehab help you change your life around that second time? The second time, no. Honestly, dude, I manipulated the fuck out of that rehab.

Like, I told them what they wanted to hear and I got through it. And then I got six months of free rent because after rehab, they usually will do like six months of sober living. So, sober living, exactly. So I took advantage of that. But I didn't really, like, learn a whole lot, I guess, you know. But the first rehab I went to, terrible, terrible. Just like the way that someone goes to jail and they meet, like, how Boston George met, Carlos later.

Like, and they were, like, not exactly cellmates, but it's like, you meet people that are like, I do this, I do that. I got charged, I almost got charged with a trafficking charge when I was in, when I was 15, 16 or something because someone's parents printed out their text message, text messages of me saying, oh, you want a boat? Oh, you want a jar? Blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, I was just like, still hustling.

I was still hustling in rehab. And they were like, oh, you could get a trafficking charge. And I thought, well, I'm just like pointing someone to someone else. Like, what is that? And they were like, that's trafficking. I was like, oh, shit. So my dad was like, he was like, your dad should check your phone, your text messages every night.

And my dad was like, I'm not going to do that. So like, it didn't really materialize in anything. But it put me on to like people that had a lot more. money and that did a lot more things. Like I was there for smoking weed and maybe taking some Xanax, taking some ecstasy. I was there with people who were doing way gnarly or shit, like drinking like mouthwash and like hand sanitizer at school because it has some form of alcohol in it. You know what I mean? So all I did was meet people that were more like connections. And that's the same thing at the other rehab as well. But I tried to be better about it, you know. Did you genuinely

think you had an issue? For sure. And what exactly was that issue? Like, did you think you had a problem with weed, or was it just like the Xanax? I never really felt comfortable in my own skin. So it was more of a mental. Yeah. And I just always felt like an outsider because I was always getting like plucked. Like, I would go somewhere and I would be like copacetic or whatever.

And then all of a sudden it's like, juke, rip the rug out, rope. pull right from underneath me and then I got to go be the new guy somewhere else and make friends all over again and like I've had to do that like nine or ten times in my life so I'm just kind of used to it by now I guess yeah it's tough yeah especially when they're like tell everybody your life story and all this stuff and it's just like dude just let me be man like you know but I get it at the same time they want to know who's coming I guess whatever but the funny thing is is the school they sent me to was a school that like literally all or not all but like three of my other homies got kicked out of West and got sent there too. So we all kicked it together. And they were

older than me. But like I've always been someone who's hung out with like people like even when I was in elementary school and in like second grade, the fifth graders were coming to get me to go play kickball and shit like that. So that's just materialized more into like when I used to skate, I'd be like 15 skating with like 25 year olds. You know, so getting, getting cigarettes, never an issue. Getting alcohol, never an issue. Like, I even convinced a place that I got my license suspended when I was 15, and they would sell me cigarettes and blunts and everything that you could imagine looking like

this without a beard. But now that every, now that you got to be 21, there's no way I could pull that off. Because without a beard, I look like I'm like, I look like I'm like 10. So how old do you know? I'm 31. 31, okay. So you're a couple years older than me. I was born in 1993.

Okay, I was born in 95. Yeah, I'm 29. Okay, for sure. So mid-20s, are you getting in any trouble at all? Are you starting to turn things around or what does that look like? See, the thing is, is I didn't get in a lot of trouble, but I did a lot of crime, if that makes sense. Like, and it was, that was the weird thing about rehab is because people were like proud that they went to prison. And then when they'd find out that I didn't go, like, it's kind of like, well, like, yeah, like, I got away with my crime.

You didn't. Like, obviously, I'm not some gangbanger. I'm not rolling around with a gun or whatever and getting enhancements and all that stuff. So obviously it's different. But I just found it kind of interesting that they like tried to put me down for not going to prison. It's like, what? like I got away with my shit because I'm smart like or I don't want to say I'm smart but I was smarter you know so mid-20s I was just always I've just always kind of been like the middleman

like when I'm not like directly hustling like hit me up and I got you I would be the middleman of like whoever needed something calls me I make one phone call and then those people do business And sometimes it's worked out. Sometimes it's worked out horribly to the point where I look very bad. Give us one of those scenarios. Got you. So my friend, my homie Nick, who like, the funny thing about me is my older brother, like, he does like physics and stuff. Like he was never like your typical older brother that's going to like, you're going to find like a porno magazine or something like that, you know.

So other people's older brothers had way more of an influence on me, like that were like in our age group. They might have been like a year or a couple years older than me or whatever. So my friend Nick, who I went to EDC with him back in like 2010 when it was still in L.A. He calls me and he's like, yo, I need some Coke. And I'm like, all right. And I had just recently gotten someone from my rehab. the first rehab, he was a PV kid. PV is a place where, think about the richest place where you live,

PV is like one of those places in the South Bay. So, like, I had just gotten him like $500 worth of coat. I got him like, I think half an ounce or something like that. I think an ounce was like a G or something. I can't remember this a long time ago, you know? So I'm like, yeah, I got you. So I link them up. and what happens is my homie comes and he comes or I knew both parties so I called both parties

and the guy who was supposed to be selling the coke crushed up a bunch of Tylenol and tried to sell it to this full and like my homie Nick you don't want to do that shit to him like he's he's been blasted since like not that that makes a difference or anything but like this full has been down since like a very long time. So they ended up getting in a fight. He ended up beating the shit out of them. And it caused this whole thing where another time,

the same guy who got beat up, he threw a surfboard through this dude's house at like 3 o'clock in the morning, through his window, through his living room window, through a surfboard through it. And his dad came out

and his dad was like trying to fight him. His dad's like this gnarly Australian like, like somebody you don't want to mess with you know and everything's on body cam like this dude he's calling the cops like slurs and all that stuff and he was leaving voicemails on like my because like our friend group was almost like a family like his like my friend's mom was like a second mom to me and she was like that for like everybody one of like my best friends so they were like trying to step in and be like yo like what the fuck like what are you trying to do so this full was leaving voicemails on my other homies phone and he's saying,

I'm going to burn your house down. I swear to God. Swear to God he was leaving voicemails like that. Wow. Yeah. So I don't even know how that really came. I think finally that guy realized he was tripping because I talked to him and kind of like cooled them off or whatever.

But I just told him like, bro, you shouldn't have showed up there with a pocket full of crushed up Tylenol. It could have went totally different, you know? Like, am I wrong? You know? So were you able to make good money being the middleman? Oh, yeah. How does the middleman make money?

You get broke off. From the connect. From the main person? From both sides. So the person that's looking to pick up and are you doing big type of deals or is this like a dime bag or? So I, when I started, it was like dimes, dives, eighths, quads, you know, like, and I enjoyed that because that's where the real money's at, bro. Like, I know, like, there's more risk involved in that. But, like, when you're selling things, like, 0.6 for 10 bucks or, like, whatever, like, I never minded selling the smaller sacks or whatever.

But there were other times where, like, I got to go pick up 7,000 X-Bars and shit like that. And I'm making, like, a couple grand just from driving from one place to another or whatever. Like, I could show you a video that I have in 20s that's literally, like, five grand. in 20s. Like, I don't even know why I put that shit up on Instagram, honestly, a different Instagram, not my normal, like, good one. The burner one. Yes, exactly. I have a burner one. Bro, if you took one look through it, your jaw would probably be down here. I don't know. So how do you feel about spending your 20s like this? Just like kind of like, you know, low-level drug dealing, really? Yeah, really. Like, I'm not trying to say that I was any type of big time,

anything, but it was just kind of a way to pass the time. Not a way to pass the time. That's a stupid excuse. But it was just like, I'll give you an example. When I turned 18 and you're not too far off from me, so you should know the pay rate for getting paid per hour was $9 an hour when I turned 18. So that's not exact. I used to think if I could just make $10 an hour, I got this.

I'm going to be bawling out of control. And then here we are where people are getting paid $15 to work at McDonald's and it's still not enough. You know, like so. Especially out here in California. Bro. I was looking at some of the places because like I was looking at some of the places like maybe across the street or kind of similar. And like I can only imagine how much they're charging for a studio over here. Probably like three grand or something or I don't know.

I'm not a real estate dude. You know what I'm saying? So, but like, you know, my 20s, I basically had a run from when I was 17 until I was 28. I didn't stop. Then when I was 28, I went to rehab. For the third time? Second time. Oh, that was the second time.

Second time. Okay. So since then, I've tried to chill out and I've been like just like trying to stay out of trouble. I was on probation for three years. I just got off on in January. of this year. What was that charged for?

DUI. Okay. Yeah. So, but it was, it was, uh, informal. Like, I didn't have a P.O. or anything like that. Like, it was just like, stay out of trouble. If you get in trouble, then, like, you're fucked or, like, more fucked than you are, whatever.

So luckily, I was able to keep my nose clean. And, um, I wasn't able to, nothing, it didn't matter. I didn't get in trouble or anything. and now I'm off paper and I'm sure you're off paper, right? Yeah, I got off a couple years ago. It feels good, right? Yeah. So not that I am trying to compare myself to you or anything,

but just getting off paper, it feels nice to not have to like look over your shoulder and stuff, you know? I feel like there's a lot of people in your position that are in like that rut, you know? Yeah, for sure. Like it's not like you guys are big time criminals, but you're just in this everyday rut, and I feel like that's very relatable to a lot of people. Yeah. That's my whole point of.

coming on here, bro, is like, you don't have to be super well connected. It's just about as far as you're willing, as deep as you're willing to dive, you can get there. You know what I mean? Like, I've seen bricks. I've partied with gang members with fucking bricks of cocaine and shit. But that's because I put myself in that position. I didn't have to put myself in that position, you know? But it's just really like, as much as you want to get into it, the game is there.

But don't you want more in life? For sure. You know, I feel like that's no way to live. It's not. It's not a good way to live. But when I'm getting screwed over constantly by these jobs, and I keep trying and keep trying and I keep trying to do the right thing, and I keep getting like, and I don't want to blame it on, like,

the societal work world or anything like that. I know I'm accountable for the things that I've done, even if it sounds like I'm trying to blame shit or whatever, I understand that, like, nobody put a gun to my head to do anything. Like, I chose to do stuff. I chose to take the drugs that made me do stupid shit, you know? You know, it's ironic is like, I'll try to tell my story and say, be better than me.

And then someone will go, that's so dope, though, bro. Like, and I'm like, no, it's not, dude. Like, it's not. Like, go to college, like, have, like, fun. Like, because I was so jealous of, like, people I went to school with posting pictures. And they're, like, out, like, not that I wanted to be in a frat, but, like, they're, like, meeting new people and they're, like, partying. and having fun and like everything

and I'm still in the same place I was doing the same shit I was doing when I was 15 years old, you know? So. Yeah, what's your plan to kind of like escape this rotten pattern? So what I'm trying to do is I want to be a guidance counselor because I've been, I mean, I've been through so much shit that, and like when I was in school, I always got the counselors that were for like the kids doing,

bad, you know, and I wish I had to listen to them so bad. At every school I went to, I wish I had to listen to them, but I didn't. And here we are, you know, so I just, I just feel like, like, how you just said how that's very relatable. Like, I'm very good at relating to things, like, kind of no matter what it is, I've kind of, like, been through it besides maybe, like, even, or no, pregnancy scare, I've been through that, too. So, like, yeah. But, but. But, you know, I'm, like, But it's not a way to live. It's not a good way to live. It's not anything I would tell somebody, like, go live your life like that, you know.

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I want to say the thing that got me kicked out of high school, but at the same time, I wouldn't know all like like like I know it's really corny to say like because I like I have jokes about like that made me the person I am today I would I wouldn't go any other way about it and it's like really you really wouldn't want to avoid that if you could but like I don't know I guess I would want to I would want to try harder in school I would want to I would want to try harder and instead of being the person to tell kids yo go to college it's a cool thing being smart is a cool thing. Like, I wish I had to take in my own advice. But instead, I was just like the guy that showed up late to class, the guy that showed up with red eyes to class, the guy that like, you know,

I'm gone snack. I'm gone at lunch. I'm gone smoking a cigarette down the street or something like that, you know. So I wish I was more responsible, I guess I would, if you could, if I was to put that into something more similar or something like that. you're a guy that listens to the show. You listen this podcast. Do you find the content relatable to you? Bro, I fucking love your shit. Like, like I was telling you, I can remember when you, that Vice article came out on you and everything.

And I forget what it was called. It was like some weird. Fakes, frauds and scammers. Yes, yes, yes. Of course you're going to know. But I remember watching that. And I remember thinking, yo, this kid's got a brain on him, like, for sure. And like, the fact of, like, what you've been able to do.

in the timing that you've had is like, it's impressive to put it at the least, like, in my opinion. But the characters that share their stories. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well,

a lot of your, obviously, you're from the East Coast. So a lot of your guests come from Connecticut and Boston and, or not, I'm not saying all of them or whatever, but like the, like,

and not that I don't enjoy their stories, because I like their stories. Trust me. I, dude, I listen to like all, I listened to the one about the actor guy coming to L.A. That shit cracked me. Oh, Brandon?

That's one of my good friends. That was so funny. That was so... Bro, he really said, so do you just go up to the... Actually, no. I don't want to make fun of nobody, but I think you know what I was going to get at.

Yeah. You go up to the biggest guy and you punch him in the face. And it's like, dude, like, this isn't a movie. This is real life. Like, yeah. But, hey, like, this is my first podcast. I don't know if that was his first podcast. first thing. So he's friends with the guy from

power. Yeah, their roommates. That's crazy. Chiani, yeah. I was with them both last night. Yeah. I watched I've watched all the power. Love power. Like, all the, like, from the original to like the power book, to the ghost, all that shit, like, stuff

like that. So, I remember try to refrain from cussing the best I can. Like, really. So do these stories inspire you to kind of like share your story? For sure. I've been sharing my story day one, man. Even when I got kicked out, actually no. When I got kicked out, I lied to everybody and I said, I got caught selling drugs because people were coming to me and saying, yo, did you

hear that some people, two people got caught having sex at school on the weekend? Oh yeah, by the way, that didn't happen during school. That happened like at night. So just to make that clear, because sometimes I don't make that clear and people are like, what, you just went in the the bathroom and just got it on? Like, no, it was at nighttime. But what was your question? If those stories that you listen to on the podcast inspire you to share yours. 1,000%. It makes me want to share my story more because I want people to learn from my mistakes.

And that's what my channel, I mean, mistakes, like bad choices, whatever you want to call it. Like, that's kind of like part of the purpose of my channel is just being like showing like, do better. Like you can do better than me. Like I was not like the most responsible. responsible person in the world, and I don't have a problem saying that. Like, I was a little ninkum poop or whatever you want to call it, you know?

But, like, I just want people to do good. What do you see in the future for you? What do you think the next five years looks like for you? Next five years. Like I said, I want to go to school. Because, like, the thing that always psyched me out of going to a, like, the thing that psyched me out about the next five years, damn. The thing that psyched me out about going and doing like a, being a guidance counselor

was everyone would say there's no money in that. There's no money in that. There's no money in that. And so I let that get to me. And then I was like, I don't want to do it no more. I'm just going to sell drugs for the rest of my life. Which obviously, that's a fucking pipe dream, you know? Nobody retires as a drug dealer.

It doesn't usually end well, you know. But, yeah. But I really, I think that I could do good as someone who can relate to these kids that are going through some shit and to just be like, yo, like, you know, just like take a deep breath. And like, what I, well, like, I kind of pick this up for my dad. When I'm going through some shit, my dad will be like, he'll tell me a story. from back in the day that makes me feel better about myself. Like, he'll tell me about a time that he was on acid

and did something where he had to go to the hospital or something like that. And, like, stories like that make me be like, okay, I think I can do this. So I just, you know, whether people take it, like, I know it's kind of like corny to say whether it reaches one person or like, if I reach one person, I'm happy. And I really mean that, honestly.

Like, I'd like it to, go further, but if there's one person that I can stop from making a mistake that could possibly completely 180 their life, you know, like I'm willing to do that. How are you going to make sure you stay on a right path and not make the same mistakes you've made in the past? Well, honestly, for the past couple years, I've been real boring, man. That's a good thing sometimes, man. No, dude, I love it. I love it. Like, even back in the day, like, I, like, I, I, I did my thing, whatever, but, like, I still, I felt like an 80-year-old man since I was, like, 12.

Like, I've been called the old soul when I was in elementary school. Like, I don't know why. But, like, there's not anything that's really going to get it. I don't want to say there's not. I don't think that there's anything that would get in my way to be like, all right, I'm just going to become a dope boy again. Like, I just don't see it. Like, I would rather, I've been there, done that, you know?

I know how that goes. I know how it's going to end. And thank God I never got jacked or whatever. I've been put at gunpoint a couple of times. But that's, you know, that comes with the game, I guess, you know. But I just hope that I can help people in some way, shape, or form. And I get inspiration from you and your podcast to do that, even more than I already did before you even had a podcast.

Like, I don't have a problem telling my story. I just think it's annoying when people that I don't know come up to me and go, I've heard of you. Oh my God. They treat me like a celebrity or something. And it's like, dude, like that was like one of the most embarrassing things that's ever happened to me. Like, thank God I was on Xanax, so I don't remember all of it. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, it's kind of suck to be always remembered for something like that in your high school. But on the flip side, when it's not you, everyone, like you're like a god. Like they treat it like, I didn't like it. I never wanted that treatment. I didn't, I never expected to be like,

I'm the shit. Check me out. You know, it was more people, ooh, I've heard of you. And it's just like, okay, sure. You know. Well, Patrick, thanks for coming out and sitting down with me today, man. Yeah, I appreciate it.

Yeah, it's been a pleasure chatting with you and thank you for the gifts, man. Yeah, no, it's cool. I'm glad that you have that little room. What, the prison cellar, the studio? Both, actually. to be real, but I just felt like it would be a good fit into your thing.