Locked In with Ian Bick - Explorer Uncovers the Dark Secrets of Abandoned Prisons & Asylums | Ramy Awad

Episode Date: June 3, 2025

Ramy Awad explores abandoned prisons and asylums, uncovering their eerie pasts and the mysteries that still haunt them today. #UrbanExploration #ForgottenPlaces #AbandonedPrisons #DarkHistory #HiddenSecrets #TrueCrime #UnsolvedMysteries #GhostStories Connect with Ramy Awad: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pimpmycamel/?hl=en Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pimpmycamel?lang=en Hosted, Executive Produced & Edited By Ian Bick: https://www.instagram.com/ian_bick/?hl=en https://ianbick.com/ Presented by Tyson 2.0 & Wooooo Energy: https://tyson20.com/ https://woooooenergy.com/ Buy Merch: https://convictclothing.net/collections/convict-clothing-x-ian-bick Timestamps: 00:00:00 Exploring Abandoned Places with Ramy 00:03:54 Exploring Emotions in Video Content 00:08:07 Exploring Abandoned Places: Legal Risks and Permissions 00:12:42 Urban Exploration: Entering the Abandoned Site 00:17:02 Exploring Spooky Abandoned Prisons and Hospitals 00:21:18 Exploring Abandoned Buildings: Pools and Gyms 00:25:31 Discovering Abandoned Places and the Risks Involved 00:29:52 Exploring an Abandoned Jewish Resort 00:34:07 Legal Troubles and Bail Jumping 00:39:57 Exploring Abandoned Places: Ethics and Practices 00:42:35 Exploring Film Locations: Inside the Iconic Prison 00:47:05 Exploring Abandoned Prisons and Filming Locations 00:51:26 Abandoned Places and the Mystery of Dead Animals 00:55:50 Drone Encounters in a Mysterious Town 00:59:46 Collaborating with Streamers and Influencers in Abandoned Spaces 01:03:36 Viral Abandoned Mansion Story 01:07:30 The Role of Audience Engagement in TV Shows Powered by: Just Media House : https://www.justmediahouse.com/ Creative direction, design, assets, support by FWRD: https://www.fwrd.co Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And I appreciate you messaging me back. I really like your show, by the way. Thank you. I watched a few of them about the guard that was like, you know, corrupt. And then a few of them were very interesting, like the cat lady and, you know. Yeah, that's Stephen Dominguez episode, The Corrupt Rikers Round Guard. That just like brought me to another level with having like, New York people reaching out to me.

Absolutely. Because people still come. That's still one of my top interviews and they stumble across that. And it was just so well put together. And that was like a random Friday night. Like he hit me up. He had never done another podcast. He comes.

I didn't know what to expect. And we're just talking. And we sat here. It was like two hours and he ran the whole episode and he just had it down pat. Absolutely. And it was just one of those ones. It was one of my favorite ones to be honest. Everything like just that way it's edited, you know, the mood, the lighting.

everything was just perfect about that. Yeah, and I'm not even like so happy with the quality only because, like, it looked good, but that was the first time I ever edited my own podcast. Like I went off on my own from an editor. So like you could tell sometimes the lips aren't synced up, like nitpicky things. And it echoes a little bit.

Yeah, it still looked like from the average person. It looks great. Right, right. But it's nowhere near like the level it's at now, now that I've learned everything. But it was still nonetheless a great episode and really opened a lot of doors. And I guess people are just,

you know, they stumble upon Rikers and stuff because people are fascinated with it. Yeah, yeah. Who doesn't love a good corrupt card story? Yeah, and it's crazy too because Riker's supposed to go abandon. Yeah, they're getting ready to close it. Yeah, they're getting ready to close it. Yeah.

We'll see what happens with that. So you're a little bit of a different guess and we've known it with the first of its kind that we've ever had on the show, but nonetheless, still fascinating, different perspective of the criminal justice system. You know, tell the people what you do, you know, plug in your channels and stuff, What you got going on?

I'm Pimp My Camel on TikTok, YouTube, Instagram. I just explored the unknown. No places that people wouldn't usually go into. I've always been fascinated by like abandoned places. Like, you know, like dilapidated places. Places that have a lot of like rich history. Ever since I was young, I was going into like places I wasn't supposed to. like places I wasn't supposed to.

I remember like being a kid like walking in China town with my parents and and just seeing something interesting like in the distance. Like I just totally left my mom and dad and just drifted off just to like, you know, go check it out. And and that's where it all began really because you know my parents were telling that story like forever. But yeah, like my curiosity began at a young age

and it just went from there. It started actually with, with photography. And I started like, you know, going into like, you know, areas that people wouldn't usually go to and take pictures and it kind of grew from there. And, you know, like the first abandoned place I ever went to

was actually King's Park Psychiatric Center in Long Island. Second place I went to was like an abandoned, like, girls' like mental asylum. There was also an upstate. New York. So yeah, it's kind of started from there. Ever since then, I've just been fascinated by abandoned places. So what can people expect when they see your videos, like for people that aren't familiar with this type of content? I hit a lot of people differently. People tell me that

they feel nostalgia when they watch my videos. You know, they feel like, you know, like their childhood. Some people feel grief. Some people feel like it reminds them of someone. Some people are just fascinated by the history. So I mean you can definitely expect like different different emotions and things from my videos for sure. Now you grew up in New York City your whole life. I did. Yeah, I grew up in Queens, born and raised in Queens. What do your parents do for work? My dad owns a lemon company and my mom is a retired nurse now. So there's a little crossover from what you do and, you know, nursing a little bit.

Absolutely, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely, yeah, yeah. I'm actually also, this is not what I mainly do too. I'm actually in school to be like an aircraft mechanic as well. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. My friend's an aircraft mechanic for FedEx and my other friend's the aircraft mechanic for PepsiCo too.

Wow. He flies all over with the CEO of Pepsi. as his personal mechanic in the jet. It's a really cool experience. He's got to visit all over the world. It's a great job. Very, very good job. So do you have siblings at all?

I do. I have four siblings. I have a brother and sister. Well, I have two brothers and a sister that are married, and I have a sister that's at home. So, like, we're five total. And how old are you now? I'm 35.

You're 35 now. Okay. Do you think you'll ever leave? the city? Honestly, I plan on leaving New York City as fast as possible. I recently went to Florida. My parents do have property in Florida, so I recently want to like to Florida a few times. And I feel more happy over there in Florida. I don't know. Like, I feel like it's more my vibe. I don't know if I'm just getting older or what. I feel like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's warmer. And it's a two-hour flight from New York City.

If I missed New York City, I could just come back. Yeah. So tell us the first time you actually had interest in, you know, doing what you do now. So I was watching actually a YouTube video. And this is what really interested me in abandoned places because I was more like into going into like, you know, restricted areas, climbing this ledge, going on this rooftop and taking pictures, you know, like kind of like urban exploring, but not like abandoned places. So what kind of like brought like my interest in abandoned places

I was watching a YouTube video of like an abandoned bank in Philadelphia. And I just remember being so fascinated. Like like how can this be in there like that preserved over time? It was like one of the first banks to open in Philadelphia. And it's just there like almost in pristine condition like no graffiti, nothing. And I'm like, how could this be? And that's just where it all started right there. Like, in terms of, like, you know, exploring abandoned places.

Yeah, there's something about, like, abandoned old things that are interesting. Like, I'm fascinated with the Titanic. Like, I love looking at the pictures, watching the videos, just, like, seeing those old abandoned photos of, and you compare it to what it was. Absolutely. Versus now. And, like, most recently in my 4U page has been all the Home Alone House, how they, I know it's not really abandoned, but just the before and afters, how they renovated the whole house to whether it's for sale, right?

It just sold, yeah. And they show all the renovations like what it look like during filming and what it looked like now. So that was really interesting. So it kind of ties into that. But then like the whole psychiatric aspect of it that we'll talk about, there was always like growing up, we had an abandoned psychiatric hospital in Newtown, Connecticut, Fairfield Hills. They turned some of it into a brewery. I think the name of the breweries actually called like Asylum Brewery or something.

Asylum brewery. Yeah. But people, like we would have friends that would go there and, you know, sneak in and take the pictures and do all the exploring. And then me and you were just talking in the hallway about the program, which that Netflix documentary

with those kids that explore all the old places they were held at and there's just that fascination with it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. that place is definitely on my on my go-to list for sure

that place, yeah, for sure. Now, what are some of the legal risks for your job now? Honestly, so nowadays, I try to get like permission for what I do. When I started off, it was more like,

you know, I used to just wing it. I've gotten in trouble a few times. But nowadays, I like, you know, reaching out to whoever is the owner. Contacting, you know, like a caregiver or a caretaker. I mean, I'm sorry. So you can get in trouble, but it's not like you don't really get in that much trouble. It's not something that's, unless you're going into someone's home, you won't like get into much trouble to be honest.

And how often are people saying yes to letting you explore these places? I'm not going to lie not often. It's very tough. A lot of people don't want, you know, the responsibility of you getting injured or anything like that. but I do find you know like the places that I really want to visit I do find that I do end up getting permission for them and do you research the place to see like get a floor plan

see what it looked like beforehand absolutely actually that's part of the fun of the whole thing yeah why don't you walk us through the whole process yeah definitely so I mean do you want to know how I find abandoned places in general tell us the whole thing so you know like Google Earth is very, very helpful. You know, like, I found many abandoned places just by purely

looking, like, towns that are, like, like, you know, like going abandoned. Like, you can, you can see towns where population is decreasing and where it's like, like, wealthy towns. And, you know, you go over to town.

And it's, it's kind of, like, a meticulous process, but it ends up being worth it. And it's, it ended up being more, like, more times worth it than me. then not worth it. So like, you know, like you can go over the, like the houses and like the pools look dilapidated. The house will look like dilapidated.

I found schools like that looked dilapidated. And then you can, you know, you can zoom in and do street view. And, you know, I found many places like that. And I would look up the floor plan for the place, you know, see which is the best point of entry. you know, street view, like I mentioned earlier. And it's just like the planning part is just very fun for me. Definitely.

Now, take us through, let's start with prisons. And then we'll do the psychiatric stuff. Take us through, you know, the first prison you went to visit that was abandoned the process, all of that. So the first prison I ever went to was actually an abandoned prison in the Bronx. It actually wasn't a prison, actually. It was like a detention center. Yeah, yeah, it was attention center. It was actually called Spofford.

Oh, yeah, we've had guests. Oh, this is perfect. Yeah, yeah, I've actually visited that place. I have pictures on my Instagram from there. Yeah, the audience has heard it from some of our new guests. Yeah, yeah. So that place and getting in was like a whole like movie by itself. Tell us about that.

Yeah, so, you know, like you get to Spofford and you have a place. I have to park in front of, like, I had to park in front of, like, a mechanic shop. And I gave the guy, like, $20 at the mechanic shop. I'm like, you know, like, Poppy, watch my car, you know? And so, like, he's watching my car. And I didn't tell him what I was going to do. But I look for my peripherals, and he's looking right at me. And the way in is literally right in front of his mechanic shop.

And you have to, like, go under a fence. So he's watching me as I'm, like, going under the fence. And so you. You go like on the side of the building and then you have to like make a right and then you have to like climb this like pole. And then you it's hard to describe it. But like then there's a tree after you climb the pole. There's like because there's like a ledge. And then you have to jump onto a tree and then jump down.

And then from there you have to climb into a window. So like it's just the way in was very fun because it was very like it was like, you know, like a jungle gym. And no one's noticing you do this to try to stop you or anything? So that area, thankfully, it was very closed up at that time. So once you're in, you're not really going to get seen. And what do you have gear-wise, equipment-wise on you? Gear-wise, I always bring gloves. You know, just in case, you know, I got to, like, you know, touch something, a very powerful flashlight.

You know, I've been told to wear a respirator mask, but I have not worn one since I started exploring. I would imagine my lungs are completely destroyed now from all the mold and like asbestos. And then do you have a GoPro or anything with you? I don't, but I do have a camera. I do carry my, you know, my DSLR and, you know, take video, you know, pictures. What about a weapon? In terms of a weapon, I carry a knife. I have pepper spray.

I know it sounds, you know, crazy, but I carry a whistle too. In case, yeah. Yeah, yeah, in case I, you know, I got to like, you know? Yeah, I mean, imagine getting stuck. Do you tell anyone you're going in, like friends or family in case something happens? I do. I always tell my dad where I'm going. You know, I shoot him a text message.

Hey, I'm about to go in here. Um, just because I'm the type that watches a lot of like, you know, stuff online and, you know, documentaries and stuff like that. And I've heard of people, you know, meeting their fate at these places, you know, like stuff like that. So, um, I'm very prepared. Um, you know, I always let someone know where I am. Um, you know, definitely, you know, I've had times where, you know, thank God. Hello, compadre. It's the...

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Yeah, I can imagine. All right. So you climb the wall. You're in this facility. Walk us through it. So it's very in, it was very in pristine condition, surprisingly. Just, I'm saying that because I heard of like, you know, many like high school kids who used to go inside and, you know, do drugs and, you know, like, you know, get intimate with each other in there and stuff like that. So I thought it would be like destroyed, but it was in very pristine condition.

And I actually have pictures, you know, like I was exploring one of, you know, one of, you know, the, I believe it was like an office, administrative office, and they had a bunch of letters from the inmates there, like the letters that the inmates were writing. I don't know if I should call them inmates, but. Yeah, you call them inmates. Yeah, so, you know, they were writing letters to their parents. I saw, like, you know, I opened one of the drawers and I saw like, like, I guess it was like, I don't know what they call it, but like, like incident sheet or something. Incident report. Yeah, incident report.

And, you know, they were talking about how this kid, like, you know, was strangling someone else. And, you know, they were describing his case case and stuff like that. And it was just very surreal seeing all this. And it was very surreal seeing all this because they left it there. And it's like, it's just crazy. They just got up and left. And my biggest stash of keys that I ever found was at Spoffer. I was exploring one of the rooms

And like under Under a desk I saw a bucket And I look in the bucket And it's a bunch of state key hospitals Like hospital state keys Like for cells and doors and stuff Yeah for cells and doors And the crazy part it

It had Joliet Illinois written on it Joliet Illinois Is where they film prison break Which is what you visited Yeah. And we'll talk about that later. Wow. So, you know, I've always been interested in like these abandoned prisons and psychiatric

hospitals like from documentaries. They make it seem like people just literally got up and left. Absolutely. Like it was an emergency. Why do you think they don't clear these places out or anything? It's really beyond me, honestly. Like, for example, the craziest abandoned hospital I've ever been to in my life. By the way, abandoned hospitals are my favorite.

Okay. Probably prisons are second and schools would be third. But the craziest abandoned hospital I ever been to is called the Bad Debt Hospital. This place has been abandoned for over 20 years. Literally, everything is left in there. Thousands of patient files. Patient samples, blood samples, blood bags, IV bags, old pictures of like, like the people who work there.

I literally went into a room and the guy was making, it was like a copy machine room. And it's a picture of the guy in the copy machine room from year 2000. And it's like the same room. And it's just so like surreal seeing that. Like how they just left everything like that.

You know, like I think like all this equipment could have been useful maybe. And like the emergency, the operating room was like in like almost. almost untouched. Everything is just in there. And where is that hospital in? Um, it's in a place called Sparta, Georgia. Oh, you went all the way to Georgia for that one. Wow.

This place is the first time I went, man, it was, this place is tough because the cops there, they know if you're not from around there. So even if you're in the car, they somehow know. Yeah, you don't want to mess with anybody out there like. So the first time I went, I actually got chased out of, of the town by the cops over there. So we had to get an Airbnb close by and just let things cool down a little bit. So we changed up the strategy because we went at night.

And who's we? It was me and another explorer that, you know, he was from that area. So I kind of feel more comfortable going with someone from that area, you know, like whenever I explore, like more of like a high profile place, you know, like a place that's more tough to get into.

Now, back to the prison for a second. Tell us about the cells. He abandoned cells what those look like. And if there was anything you were surprised about in there. So, in this, I just, I was surprised by how small it was, to be honest. For, like, for, I believe it was like for children, right? I think it was a juvenile place spot. So, like, below 18?

Yeah, but they might have had some adult people there. Right. But I think mainly it was under 18. So, yeah, I was surprised by how small the place was. I took the pictures on my Instagram. I had a wide-angle lens, and it still makes the place looks, like the cell still look small.

What was in the cell? So it was like a bunk bed, like a blue bunk bed, and like a little desk that came out from the wall, and then like a little round chair that's like a metal chair. And then like bars on the window. Any toilet? No, I didn't see a toilet in the cell. No.

Okay. And was there actual cell doors to shut up? Yeah, there was cell doors, yeah. Wow. I'm surprised there's a toilet. I don't remember seeing a toilet, to be honest. Maybe that was like the holding area or something? Maybe.

Honestly, maybe there could have been a toilet. I could easily check on my Instagram, but I believe there could have been a toilet. What else was in that building? Was there like a gym? Yeah, so there was a basketball gym in there. There was a pool. A pool? Yeah.

Literally, there was a pool, yeah. It was actually on the ground level. Wow. Yeah, yeah, there was a pool. But the pool was all graffeted up. Like, after I went, I saw some pictures of the pool. And it was just massively, like, grafted up. So, yeah, the pool, I just remember seeing some of the day rooms.

I believe, like, day rooms where they just went and, like, you know, like, everybody was just hanging out and just, I guess, played board games. or whatever, the cafeteria. Yeah, it's just, everything was just so surreal. That is just right there, you know? When you're in a place like that, is your mind thinking about, wow, there was people here? Are you envisioning what happened there?

Absolutely, absolutely. Even when I went to Spofford, I actually tried looking up like old pictures from the place. I just love, like, as I'm walking, just envisioning, like, you know, everything, you know? like, you know, people ate here, you know, someone, you know, you stayed here. And then that's just part of, you know, the love I have for this hobby, for sure. Now when that you hear like a sound or anything, do you freak out or do you ever get scared in those moments?

Absolutely. It's funny you say that because as soon as you mentioned that, I think of like a moment right away where like I was exploring an abandoned mental asylum in Maryland. It was called Forest Haven. and this place is like in the middle of nowhere and we were in the morgue area and mind you the place is totally abandoned there's no active buildings nearby or anything

and I have a video from you know that time too and I'm snapping pictures and we hear church bells just off in the distance and I'm and we're like like where is this coming from and it's and none of us are like you know pranking each other or anything because it would be obvious it's coming from like in the room but like it's just really weird that we heard church bells and but like that's just one time like where like I heard a sound but like any sounds generally like would freak me out like in an abandoned place now these psychil like onto the psychiatric hospitals now I feel like I personally could never go into one of these alone

and there's just something eerie about them that's different than probably an abandoned school or even in prison because you know that most of these places that you probably used to torture patients there years ago like a lot of these places that are closed down it was the old school type methods. I mean look at Creedmore Psychiatric Center.

It's in Queens. They used to do lobotomies on patients. You know, there's been stories of like patient abuse. The staff used to abuse the patients and it's in the New York Times. You know, so absolutely. I get what you're saying, yeah. It would be scary, like, you know, exploring these places alone.

I have, honestly, explored alone. Did you ever find files, like we see in the documentaries and the TV shows and you're reading what exactly happened there at these places? And if so, can you share one of those files you read? Absolutely, yes. Like the Bad Dead Hospital, for example, like literally thousands of patient files.

files, just like different, you know, I saw like files, patient with HIV, like, you know, stuff that should be like never there, you know, like. And these things are just left there like that. And, you know, I've seen thousands of patient files, you know, blood samples, you know, just, just crazy stuff, you know, to be honest at these hospitals. Any bodies, dead bodies? I've seen human like ashes. From the morgue? Yeah, from the morgue. But I've never, you know, seen a dead body. I would totally freak out if I ever did.

And I pray that never happens to me. But it is a very big possibility that that can happen, especially in, you know, like places like, you know, Detroit, Philly, where there's a lot of abandoned places. Detroit, Philadelphia, Chicago, these are like hot spots for abandoned places. And a lot of the times, homeless people go in there, you know, and sometimes they'll do drugs in there. And they could pass away in there. So a lot of the times, if you do find that body, it would be most likely someone homeless or a drug addict.

Will you go in at night or only during the day? I've done both. I prefer, honestly, during the day. like right before the sun comes out is the best for me because everybody's asleep if there's security they're not really functioning at that time

so that is like my ideal time but for creating content and just for the love and just the thrill and the adrenaline I like exploring at night as well do you believe in like evil spirits are haunted or ghosts or anything when you're going into these places.

Like what's your thoughts on that? I don't, to be honest. I think if I did, I wouldn't be able to go into some of these places because I've talked to people who are, like who do believe in ghosts and the hauntings. And they tell me that, you know, they wouldn't be able to go in some of these places because of the energy, you know, the energy that they would feel. that it would, you know, bring them. But honestly, I don't really believe in any of that.

Even though I've had some, you know, strange things happen to me at abandoned places, I don't really believe in, like, ghosts or anything like that, to be honest. Tell us about the strange things that have happened. You know, like, I was exploring, like, an abandoned theater in Wilkes Bar, Pennsylvania. It's the weirdest theater I've ever been to in my life. It's like a theater with like Arab writing and camels and like Hebrew writing and like it's shaped like a dome and it was so weird. It was called the Irim Temple. It was in Wilkes Bar, PA.

So when I explored a theater, I'm already feeling off because I feel like literally someone is in the theater watching me. So I was with two other kids But you know they're doing their things you know doing photography But I feel like there's someone watching me like the whole time I'm in that theater So I was already like on edge as you like as as as you say so like I don't know if that maybe played a role in what happened next But like I'm exploring like on top of the theater there's like another Like stage area like where like I think like they used to get ready like the actors and stuff like that So I'm like upstairs like taking some photos

And I swear I got I hear something whisper in my ear And there's no one else like up there with me And and the whisper is so like like I can't even make out what I said But like something whispered like in my ear And it was crazy so like that would be like one of like like Like paranormal things that happened to me The most paranormal thing that happened to me So even with that happening, you still don't believe in, you know, that aspect?

I don't, just because I've never seen anything. I always told myself, if I see it or, like, if I see something, like, more, like, you know, like, I don't know, like, viable. I'll believe in it, but. This episode is brought to you by Subaru. Go further in a long-range Subaru hybrid with up to 581 miles per tank in the forester hybrid. Longer range. better fuel efficiency, and legendary symmetrical all-wheel drive, standard. The Subaru Forrester Hybrid.

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Now, what are some of the crazy moments from exploring, like, in a danger aspect that you've encountered or some of the trouble you might have gotten in from these visits? I've gotten in some trouble. I've actually gotten in the most trouble I've got into, I was actually, exploring like an abandoned like it was called the Hamawak Lodge it's an abandoned like Jewish resort so

it was like in Mamicating New York so you know we're exploring well we went in before we went in we already made a mistake because we parked the car far away and we're going in through the front and as we're going in a white pickup truck

passes and and I can tell it was a guy in there and he spots us going in and we're like, you know, should we go back? So it was me and three other kids and we're like, you know, should we go back and we're like, you know, not, like we came this far, you know?

So we decided to explore, you know, an hour passes, nothing happens. So we're in the bowling alley. There's a bowling alley in there. It's like a whole resort. So, you know, there's rooms, bowling alley, you know, like cafeteria, you know, stuff like that.

We're in the bowling alley, and I'm taking pictures, and I see, like, lights coming in through the cracks of the bowling alley. And then I look back, and they're like, get on the fucking ground. Get on the ground. And then we're literally, like, it's like something out of a movie. Like, I would not expect that to happen because, like, literally, we're some photographers, bro. Like, really? and literally like between six and eight police officers

with guns, some of them holding rifles some of them have like, you know, like pistols out and they're like, get on the ground, get on the ground. So that's the most trouble I ever gotten into. I remember them taking us into like the police station. Did they handcuff you and stuff? Oh yeah, they handcuffed us. That's after leaving us on the ground literally for like 20 minutes.

I literally couldn't feel my hand or foot for like four hours. It took four hours for it to defraust, literally. So like we're in the police station. And this was the first time in my life where I ran into corrupt officers. So I'm in the police station. And so me and the three other guys were sitting there. You know, they took pictures of us. You know, they're doing fingerprints.

And a guy comes. in plain clothes. He has like a collar shirt on, dress pants, and he comes in. He's like, you guys are in deep shit. You guys are going to go to jail. And I'm

looking at him. I'm like, my stomach started hurting. Like, I'm like, bro, like this is fucked up. He's like, there's only one way out of this. Like, you each give me $250. And I forget it ever happened. And I was

with two other kids who were like, I think they were like a little younger to me. So they were broke. So they're like, oh, like we don't have 250. Me and another kid had the 250. He's like, you all need to have the 250 or it's no deal. So they didn't have the 250 each.

I'm not going to call my parents and tell them, hey, can you send me 250? For my friend, you know what I mean? Yeah. So he's like, no deal. And he just walks out and I never saw him again. So what they charge you with for that? Just trespassing?

No. They took it. They went hard. First, they put my mugshot on the internet. They wrote an article about me. What was it called? What did it say? I know what to look up to find the article.

You know, you just look up my name, arrested, you know, whatever. So, yeah, they put my muck shot. I remember emailing them to take the muck shot down. They're like, no, fuck, no. We're not taking it down. You know what I mean? they hit me with like they tried to hit me with arson

because we had smoke bombs to add effects to the pictures you know like oh you know like walking down the bowling alley you know smoke you know and they try they're like oh they had like fire I forgot what they labeled it exactly

I think they said fireworks so like they tried to like you know they took it really hard and you know I ended up you know just paying some fines at the end because I had a very good lawyer and stuff. So, yeah. Was it a felony or a misdemeanor?

No, it was a misdemeanor. Okay. And I'm pretty sure if they could have did it a felony, they would have. And what did you plead guilty to, just the fireworks or trespassing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I explained that, you know, the lawyer explained that it was just, you know, smoke. And I actually fucked up too, like I forgot to mention that, you know, like, it's okay of occurs, obviously. Yeah.

Yeah. So, like, I forgot to mention that, you know, like, I didn't go to court. court. So like I had to go back to court because they let me out on bail. And I didn't go back and I actually got hit with bail jumping. So you forgot to go or you didn't purpose? I honestly, I just, I just didn't want to go. I was nervous. I thought I was going to go to jail. I'm not going to lie to you. Because they were like that. I just thought like this place is so corrupt. You know, they're going to, you know, they're going to screw me. So I remember getting a call on my phone. And they're like, it was dumb. The police. They're like, yo, this is the police. We're going to. We're going to. We're going to. We're going to. We're going to. We're going to. We're to come get you. And then I remember, like, I was like, a box in my crime. I was like, dad, what should I do? Like, I was much younger at that time. You know, I started this hobby, like, you know, like, you know, almost 15 years ago.

So. And, you know, like, he told me, like, we got to go. So I remember, like, having the, you know, do the bail jumping thing. I told her, like, I was just feeling sick, you know, the judge. And, you know, I just paid some fines. and, you know, God was watching over me at that time because it could have been much worse. It could have been much worse for that.

Yeah, definitely. Now, have you ever encountered, like, a homeless person or someone that attacked you or anything violent in these places? Yeah, so, yes. I actually got chased out of a place like a guy with a machete once. I was exploring, like, an abandoned bed and breakfast.

Actually, Abraham Lincoln stayed there. Oh, I've heard of this place before. Yeah, yeah. It's in Darby, Pennsylvania. But I think anyone could go visit, right? I don't know. Maybe now. Maybe they converted it now.

But at that time, it was in very bad shape. Like, the floor was, like, collapsing. Yeah, I remember we're taking pictures of the staircase. And, you know, a guy comes out in a machete. And he starts, like, running towards us. And we literally just belined it out. Thank God, like, he didn't, like, block us. It blocked the way between us and the exit.

We just ran out. And then God, it was. It was like, you know, we explored the top floor. The only place we didn't get to see is like the bottom two floors. And, you know, we just took it as an owl. Took it as a loss and just, you know. Who was the guy? Do you know? I don't know, but he looked like he was squatting.

Like he was just like temporarily staying there. He didn't look like homeless too. He didn't look like he was roughed up. He just looked like he was just like squatting there. But he looked angry. he looked pissed and he came right for us and we literally just

I don't know if he was trying to intimidate us trying to like actually hurt us rob us I was not going to stick around and find out I'll tell you that when you go into these places do you see a lot of remnants from people that have recently visited maybe like a recent fire they made or like snacks or anything like that

yeah unfortunately it's a very big thing and you know exploring where there's an epidemic right now where kids are going into these places like very young kids and they're destroying these places they're vandalizing them. They're lighting them on fire.

They're, you know, they'd go into old homes and they're like rip everything apart and just completely destroy everything. And it's very sad but, you know. So what do you do when you come across things like that? Do you clean it up or do you just leave it? Honestly, I have a few times. I have a few times where I clean things up.

Also, to make it look better for my pictures, I'm not going to lie to you. You know what I mean? Yeah, because you don't want like a bag of Doritos or Cheetos or Cheetos or something. You know, so I'll clean, sometimes I'll clean something up. But for the most part, I really leave things just the way they are. Like if I see something, you know, the most I can do is like, I'll make sure I lock up on the way out. You know what I mean?

If there was a way that's accessible that I can lock up on the way out to prevent like vandalizers from going in, I'll do that. Yeah, are a lot of these abandoned places like locked and chained up and people have just broken into it? Absolutely. So there's most of the time there's like one way in. You know, there's a lot of places where, you know, there's multiple ways in. So a lot of the times there's like one way in So you can lock up on the way out You know

Take it the extra you know Step to like protect the place you know Because a lot of you know Squatters Um Um Um I don't know what they call those people

That take the the the scrap metal Oh yeah I know what you're talking about Um I don't know the word Yeah yeah yeah so Leaders Yeah something like that So yeah those people like

You know they'll go in and and take that stuff Will you break into a place Or is that way you draw the line? I have, I'm not going to lie I have in the past But I I definitely try enough to never do that I try to just

You know And to be honest Most of the time It's just a clear way in I don't have to break anything You know It'll be like a window that's open You know

Like a door that's already open And because a lot of these places too, like, like whoever owns it or someone would go back and like, so they need a way to get in too. You know, so like a lot of the times it'll be open, you know, but I have broken in many times. Do you ever research what the plans are for these buildings like when you go to a place? Definitely. Yeah, it is, it is, you know, part of my interest. I want to see like, you know, what the fate is of the place. A lot of these places surprisingly have no future.

They just, like, there's no plans. Or you'll see, like, plans that just never followed, like, that never went through. And I think, like, a big part of it is it's very expensive for demolition. And, you know, like, these projects cost a lot of money. And a lot of times they're not worth it. So I think that's why for sure. So now we were talking before you visited the infamous prison and prison break. And it came up on my 4U page last year,

which it was probably your video of how after I just finished the series of how people can or somehow get in to visit this prison. So was it an actual abandoned prison that they used to film or did they build that for it? So it was actually an abandoned prison. You know, there's been some notable people who were arrested, like, who spent time there. So it was an actual prison, but they used, like, one of, like, you know, the cell blocks for filming. And where is this located? It's in Joliet, Illinois.

Okay. Yeah. So it's a very, like, I remember it being, like, a small, you know, kind of town. Do you know the name of the prison? It's called Joliet Prison. Oh, that's what it's called? I believe. So, and then in the show, it's called.

Fox River. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's actually called Joliet Prison. Yeah. So, um...

Take us through it like from the moment you get there. Um, honestly, it's, till this day, it has to be one of my, like,

top five favorite explorers just because prison break is very close to me. Like, that show is, like, one of my favorite shows of all time. Amazing show. Amazing show.

Um, man... They just announced a bringing it back or a spin-off or something. Yeah. That would be great. I watch a show three times. It's the only show where I've watched more than twice. I might have to go through and rewatch it.

Yeah, yeah, it's just great. It's just great every time you rewatch it, especially the part where he like takes off his shirt and like the tattoos. Like the whole blueprint is there. Yeah. But yeah, so like going there, it was epic. Like it was something like I've been waiting for for years. Like I remember waiting three years to go there, you know?

So, um, thankfully we, you know, know, like, we met with a kid that's been there before that took us in because the way in is very, like, a little complicated. So we had to go in through the front of the prison, like, through a gate, like a fence. And then, like, we had to walk through, like, the side of, like, the building and go into, like, another building and go into, like, the top of a roof hatch and take the roof hatch and take, like, a ladder down. and then go into another building

and then climb through like another like window and then like you're finally in like you know like the interesting part of like the prison but it's such a huge prison that you know like we really didn't get to see like the whole thing but you know I got to see the most you know like the parts that I wanted to see you know like the cell block where they filmed

you know I remember looking for like the medical office where you know he was he was being treated by what I forgot her name but Sarah yeah Sarah yeah yeah he was being treated by Sarah and you know the window where he escaped where they all escaped from

like the medical window like in the doctor's office like I think they call it the infirmary right yeah yeah and it looks just like how it looked in the show the window looks similar but like I feel like in the show like it looked a little different. The wall was definitely whiter, I'll tell you that.

The wall was all like yellow and then like when I went. But it's just amazing like seeing like the cells and just remembering like what the show looked like and

the cafeteria is insane. It's like this orange and like white colored cafeteria and it's just like funky looking like I'm like wow what did the cell blocks look like

um the cell blocks they look depressing honestly um but it's just it's one of the most like naturally dilapidated prisons I've ever been to just like the paint was all chipped everywhere

and you can, like, hear the crunch of, like, the paint chips, like, as you're walking, and it's just, everything is just so, like, like, decaying. Like, I just remember it as being, like, the most decayed prison I've ever, like, like, explored. And, um, that place actually, like, yeah. Relax and let Ralph's delivery handle your grocery shopping this week.

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No. They literally like took everything and left after they filmed. So like in terms of like seeing any remnants from the old show, I didn't see anything. And there wasn't like cops or anything that guard the place? Oh yeah, there's a guy in a pickup

going all around the prison. So they do have security. Oh, absolutely. I'm sure because the show kind of brought a lot of promotion to it. Yeah, especially because I was. went after the show and not before like, you know, like, because a lot of it was like abandoned too, like when they were filming, you know? So, like before they were filming, I mean. So yeah, it was like

there was a lot of heat in that place. How did the, uh, the, the clips, like the whatever you put together for social media perform when you posted that? It performed really well, surprisingly. I think the clip went like very viral. I think I have like maybe close to the, 10 million views on it. Did you put like the music from prison break on it? Yeah, I did. Yeah, that's got to be the clip I saw. I did.

Yeah, yeah, I did. I put the music and everything. It's just one of my favorite videos. What an iconic song. Yeah, I just like, oh man, that room, like the infirmary and everything just, you know, the cell blocks, everything was just incredible. Sadly, a lot of the cells were like closed so I couldn't like access. a lot of them, but there was some that were open.

And that's actually how that place, you know, like met his demise too. Like now you could visit the place, I believe you could visit. Oh, to get a tour? Yeah, you can get a tour now, but there was a kid's exploring, you know, like one of the cell blocks, and they automatically, like, they accidentally locked themselves in one of the cells. Was there power in there? No, there was no power. Okay.

Now, these are the old cells with the keys. The keys? Yeah, they had like skeleton keys. Yeah, absolutely, yep. And they're the bars and then there's a toilet and the bed. Where there's still mattresses and stuff in there? I don't remember seeing mattresses. No.

No. So it was pretty cleared out? Yeah, it was cleared out, yeah. Was it dirty, like stuff cluttered everywhere, like the psychiatric hospitals? No. It was totally, this one was surprisingly totally cleared out. There was like nothing. So, you know, like I've been to other prisons where I've seen like, you know, more stuff, you know, like I've seen like, like criminal files and, you know, stuff like that.

And, you know, like surprisingly this one was all cleared out. And I think it had to do a lot with because they filmed there. You know, a lot of the times where if they use a place for filming, it's more like, you know, they clear out the place when they. leave, you know, like, or the place is already cleared out for them, you know, so they could film. And it's still owned by the state, this prison? Oh, I believe so. Yes. Yes, I believe it is.

Have you researched if they're going to do anything with it? Other than just having, like, Halloween tours and, you know, just regular tours, which I don't even think they're operating right now. There's really no future for that place. And honestly, I don't think there is any future for that place other than what they're already. doing or just to demolish it and like open an Amazon, Amazon center, like a Walmart or something. Does it ever put like your life in perspective when you're at like a prison and you're, you're in the cell and you're like, wow, like people actually lived here? Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, like especially in Spofford, you know, and, you know,

any prison cell really, you know, any of these abandoned, you know, prisons I've been to, I just go in the cell and I just sit down and I'm like, wow. Like, you know, sometimes, like in Spofford, for example, like, I could, like, you know, I could touch, like, you know, like, both sides. And it's just like, wow, you know, like, it definitely puts things in, like, you know, like makes me realize, like, you know, like this is, this is definitely not something I would want, you know. Do you ever get nightmares from these places? Dreams or weird dreams, vivid dreams, anything like that? I've had weird dreams. I've had weird dreams.

you know, I've had dreams where I'm getting chased around a psychiatric hospital and I just wake up and I'm like, oh my God, like what the fuck? Like, you know, like, after like a few years of exploring abandoned places, like sometimes when I'm home, I smell like, like asbestos and like the smell like I could smell it. Like it's hard to explain. But like, you know, like, um, You know, like, just like certain things. But yeah, but that's about it.

What about animals? Do you see a lot of animals in these places? You know, I've seen bats. I've seen cats, you know, like baby owls. But nothing really, like, extremely, like dangerous or anything like that. Any dead animals, too, or no? Absolutely. So many dead animals are on the end.

There's a lot of dead animals in these places. Unfortunately, yeah. I've seen dead cats more than anything. You know, like there'll always be like a dead cat carcass. I've seen a place where I went in and there's a dead dog on the bed. And supposedly, I don't know like the truth behind it. I don't know if it's just like a rumor started, but supposedly it was the owner's dog that he left. and the dog just couldn't survive anymore in the house

and just passed away on the bed right there and the dog's still there, the place is still abandoned. Wow. So now do you make money from doing this? Is this like a job for you now? I know you're in school, but... It's more like a hobby to me, honestly. And I say that because

I didn't really make much money off, you know, social media, you know, like, to be honest. Um, but you have a lot of followers. Yeah, yeah, I do. I do.

And, and I am going to like, you know, start releasing like merch, for example. And like, you know, like,

I'm going to be starting releasing full length YouTube videos, you know, uploading on shorts and stuff like that. But, um, you know, I am looking more like,

you know, to make money now, but I, I looked at it before as more like a hobby. But now that like, you know, I've gotten a few news appearances. You know, I was on the Wall Street Journal, New York Post twice, Fox Business.

So now that I'm seeing that I'm getting like, you know, more recognition, I want to like start taking this a little bit more seriously. And what is their interest in you? You know, Fox Business interviewed me about like the dangers behind exploring. Wall Street Journal, it was about the, I visited an abandoned town in Italy. and I was being followed by drones. Literally, I have videos. I have videos on my TikTok.

And who do you think ran the drones? So I found out who it was. It was government. In Italy. And the reason why they have drones going over this town is because it's illegal to go back. Like a lot of the family want to go back and they want to take their stuff.

And it's illegal. And also people will vandalize and steal things. so and and they also like analyze like the area like so like I found out there were like research like government research like security drones and it's just crazy because what you know like we get there at night and imagine seeing a drone at night flying it's it's like insane so we get there at night

and we're going through the town like we're going through the town because we were going to camp out at one of the abandoned houses this until morning and then explore the whole town. So like we look up and a drone is right there. We're like, what the like,

I can't, like, I don't know of like, like, like you comprehend this. Like this is crazy. Like a drone is literally right on top of us. And at that time we didn't think oh, it's like, you know, like a government drone. We're like, what the

hell is this? Like we're just totally like freaked out. You don't know if it has weapons or it's like explode. Exactly. Like at that time my mind was going crazy. I'm not going to lie to you. So I actually like, we psyched. We were psyched like enough to just leave.

Like we were just freaked out. We just left. And we stayed at an Airbnb like nearby. You know, the Airbnb ended up being so shitty. Like they lied. They're like, oh, we have Wi-Fi. Internet. Ended up being no Wi-Fi, no Internet.

So we couldn't like do any research or anything the way we wanted to. There was no internet. We were in the mountains. This place is like in the middle of the, nowhere. It's in a place called Fossa, like literally in like northern Italy in the mountains. And we ended up going back the next day because we drove so long. We ended up going back in the daytime. We're like, fuck it, you know, like maybe those drones were just there at night. And we ended up going back in the daytime and the drones were following us all around the town,

all around the fucking town. They were just following us right on top of us, like hovering. And then there's other drones in the distance, you know? Like, and, you know, like we ended up just exploring. Nothing ever happened on our way out. We see like a red military vehicle passing us. And the guy's like, you know, what are you guys doing? And we're like, oh, you know, we're just, you know, like exploring. He's like, yeah, we see you guys.

He's like, you guys can't go in any of the buildings. They ended up being very nice. I thought we were screwed. I thought we were like, you know, going to get lost. You got locked up. Imagine you got locked up abroad. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I thought like, I started like, my stomach dropped.

I thought we were screwed. And they ended up being like the nicest people, the nicest like military guys. And they're like if you want to like, you know, talk about anything, meet us like all the way in the down. And they had like this whole like military like set up on the bottom of the town like in the ground level. So like it's like a big circle. And they're like all the way in the bottom. And then town is like around like on the hills. and they told us

you can only stay like on the bottom like where we are if you want to like take pictures so you know it ended up being like cool and everything but it was just you know it was crazy

the drone thing was just insane so yeah so you know they ended up um yeah they ended up interviewing me about that um what are some of the top places on your list that you want to visit next

uh I really want to go of Japan. Japan is incredible. The abandoned places there are incredible. They have like a whole like zone like a whole city where it's just abandoned after a nuclear fallout

I believe. It's like a from where the nuke went off that the US bombed? I know. I think it's Fukushima. I think it was like I think it was like a workplace accident or something and then like radiation ended up going in the air.

But the whole place is just, the whole city is abandoned. And there's levels. There's like level one, level two, level three, and then level four is extremely like radioactive. There's like hospitals that are like literally untouched, like frozen in time over like, like, you know, the last like 15 years, you know? And those places are fascinating to me.

I want to go see them. Could you see yourself going to like Chernobyl? Absolutely. Yeah. I would say I want to go there like the second most. I want to go to like Chernobyl, explore Chernobyl. That was a great documentary that HBO did on that. Oh yeah, absolutely.

Yes, yes. That place is fascinating for sure. I definitely would need to wear like protective gear for sure though. I think they do tours or they, there's something that gets you. Yeah, there's people that you could pay that take groups out. It's more like common now, you know, for like, people to go visit Chernobyl where like before like it was a whole thing where you need to like trespass and you know like avoid security and stuff like that but nowadays you know like you can you can

visit if you have money you know Chernobyl so do you always see this being a hobby or do you think you'll ever take it as like more of a business or I I eventually want this to be I want to take this more serious um you know you know like I would love to like make a you know like work on a show or something, you know, like, um, you know, like I want to release merch, like I said,

you know, merch that would help people, you know, who are exploring. Like certain things that I notice that like in everyday carry item needs that would improve it. Like,

that would make exploring easier, you know, like, so like there is some things I have in mind that I want to like start, you know, taking it more from a hobby to like more serious.

Have you ever had like streamers or influencers reach out to come along with you so they could get footage and stuff? Absolutely, yeah. Like for collabs and all that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a, you know, a few people I have collabed with. You know, they put up like YouTube videos and stuff like that. You know, I took to like mental hospitals and, you know, they created content. You know, I shot a few, like music videos at these abandoned places for some like artists.

Not like extremely big artists, but I would say like, you know, like underground well-known artist. So yeah, definitely. And will they pay you for that? Oh, yeah, definitely. The collabs, no, because it's more like, you know, we're collabbing. Yeah, mutual. Yeah, yeah, like a mutual thing. But the music videos, yes.

I could see you being like a tour guy. I mean, it's probably illegal to do. Yeah, absolutely. I see myself doing that too. Yeah, or you would do like streams, you know, like live streaming. I don't know how the internet is in some of these places, but... It would do well. It would do well, surprisingly.

But just, like, service-wise, you might need to get, like, a little satellite adapter or something. I don't know how your service is going into some of these places. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so some of these places, it's bad service. And, you know, something you got to, like, deal with, really. Like, some of these places are just in very isolated areas. I've been to places literally you get no bars. Like in the hospital in Sparta, forget about it.

You're getting no bars. Even outside, outside the hospital. You know what I mean? You're getting no signal. What's the next place you have on your list to go to? That's already booked and planned. Booked and plans. I would say there's the abandoned school from the Netflix documentary is literally on my go-to.

And that's the program that we were talking about? Yeah, the program, yeah. From the program. Yeah, definitely let me know how that is. Yeah, yeah. That place is just watch after watching. watching documentary, like it makes me want to explore even more. Yeah.

And those places literally because they went bankrupt and they closed down right away. So there's all the documents. Exactly. Literally everything, mattresses, all that. Everything. Yeah. That makes it even better for me. But yeah, some of these places are just like, the craziest places are just, you would never

think it's right here. Like recently I've been to, he's like a mob, like he was like a mob boss, like Arab guy. and it's an abandoned house in Staten Island. And it's the craziest abandoned house you'll ever see. Wait, like John Gotti's old place? I've been to John Gotti's old place. That's abandoned too, right? Yeah, it was.

It was abandoned, but I see them doing some work now on it. And I know, like, I think 50 Cent has an abandoned one in Connecticut. There's an abandoned 50 Cent place. Oh, shit, I would have to look into that one. Yeah, I think there is an abandoned one in Connecticut. Like, after he sold her or didn't say, I don't know. There's a few abandoned celebrity place. That is pretty cool.

I know what you're talking about in Long Island, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That place they filmed growing up Gotti there. So when I was exploring that place, I found a picture of like the brothers and the mom, like an actual picture they took of like themselves, you know, like family photo. So I see it there and it's just right there. I could tell like someone else was looking at it and just left it right there. But yeah.

I might have to come with you to one of these prisons or something. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, that would be great. I mean, we could do a collab. It could be like illegal. We can go in the legal way. you know what I mean? Yeah, I think we got to do a legal way.

I'm trying to get jammed up. Yeah, we can definitely do something like that. But yeah, it's just, yeah, these spaces are incredible. Like the house that I was just telling you about, the guy stopped paying his taxes and he fled the country. And it's crazy. If you seek of the videos, one of my most viewed videos ever, I have 92 million views on it.

Holy cow. Yeah. And the guy just left the whole, like the family. just got up and left. At that time, it was one of the most expensive mansions in Stein Island. And the guy got up and left, the BMWs, they have a BMW like turbo in the garage and a Mercedes SUV. They just left it there.

Wow. Yeah, they just left it there. And after I posted the video, it went so viral that the girl who used to live there, who's now living in Egypt, message me. Egypt. Yeah. She's like, dude, I used to. to live in that house, that's me from that photo.

I took, like, I, in the photo, there's like photos of, like, you know, children and, like, family. She's like, that's me from that photo. And then I look at her IG page and it's, they literally, like, even though it was her when she was younger, they look like the same and it's the same, like, family name. Wow. So I'm like, wow, this is incredible. How do you pick what music goes on in the background of some of these videos we put together? Honestly, I like creepy. I feel like the music's a big part. of it. Yeah, it is. I like creepy shit. Like, I like creepy music. I like the creepy vibe. Um, most of the time, I'm just like scrolling through the music and it just whatever just has like a good

vibe like that I like. Um, really that's how I pick the music. Fascinating stuff, man. Yeah. It really is. Thank you. Well, Rami, I appreciate you come on the show today, man. Thank you. I appreciate it. Definitely something different. Yeah, man, it was good to chat about this. I'm definitely going to come on a, try to, you know, see a legal route to get those abandoned prisons or psychiatric hospitals that'll come up. That actually would be great. That actually would be great. I think that would be really cool.

And then I'll put it on my social media too. Absolutely. To check that out, you know, get some pictures and stuff. Absolutely. But yeah, I always love doing different episodes on the show. It splits it up for the audience, you know, so not every show is a prison show or a crime show or addiction show, you know.

It just keeps it fresh and entertaining. So this was a really interesting. look and perspective. But yeah, keep doing your thing, man. Thank you. I appreciate it. You need anything reach out. Thank you.

And keep doing your thing with the show. It's amazing, literally. I like the direction you're going in. Yeah. Every episode's quality. Yeah, that's what the thing is, you know, high quality. Absolutely. Quantity, but quality at the same time too.

And not every episode will the audience relate to the guests, but there's just so many, they can pick another one, plenty of episodes. Honestly, there's something that could relate to everyone. Yeah. Yeah. But sometimes the guest is a guest. necessarily the best storyteller. Like, there'll be a lot of, I know, I know, or um, or this, or, you know, they'll repeat

certain words. Um, but they're not professional, you know, guests, you know, so what are you going to expect? I mean, me, for example, you know, like, you did a solid job, you know, you kind of knew what to expect. I feel like the guests that watch a show that come on, they know what to expect, so they perform a certain way. Um, but, you know, not everyone's like that. But that's what keeps it raw and organic, you know?

Yeah. Um, and as long as the form. Matt's day is the same. You just keep pushing out content, you know? Absolutely. There's so many stories. Yeah, having a good host helps to, you know, like a good, you know. Yeah, and you're just creating a safe environment.

Like some people say, oh, you got to push back on some of these guests. It's not my job to do that. I let the guests, the guests will, you know, make their own trap for themselves if they come on here and lie the whole time and someone just researches it and found out they lied, you know? Absolutely. It's not on me to sit here and say, because it's an uncomfortable situation. If you're doing an interview, I'm just like, oh, you're a liar.

This can't be true, this or that. No one wants that. Absolutely. It's a lame show, you know. Yeah, yeah. So it's interesting. Like, if you're watching your favorite TV show or a movie, that's like a documentary, you're not getting, oh, you're a liar, you're this, you're that throughout it, you know.

You let the audience kind of feel that out. Absolutely. But yeah, thanks again, brother. And, you know, stay in touch. Thank you for having me. Keep doing you, man. Thank you so much. Thank you.